1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I had the messiest room 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: in the house. My clothes seemed to permanently live on 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: the floor wherever I dropped them. There were papers all 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: over my desk, and my books would be stacked at 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: the edge of the bed or on the floor in 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: front of the bookcase. Eventually, my parents would threaten to 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: ground me whenever they could no longer see the floor 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: in my room. And then I would spend an entire 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Saturday and sometimes Sunday too, organizing and cleaning my room. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: And once it was done, I was filled with this 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: immense sense of not only accomplishment, but comfort, maybe even 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: a little excitement. That's the power of a tidy space 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: on your mental health. Okay, so here comes the science 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: around it. According to research published in the Journal of 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: Neuroscience in twenty eleven, too much stuff or stimuli in 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: our field of vision at the same time competes for 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: space and attention in our brains, making it difficult for 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: us to focus and take in everything out in front 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: of us. But it doesn't just stop with our brains 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: struggling to compute the chaos. There was also a study 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: out of UCLA's Center for Everyday lives and families that 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: found the clutter or disorganization in the participant's environments affected 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: their self esteem and mood, increasing their cortisol levels, especially 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: in women. Thankfully, I've grown out of my disorganized and 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: cluttered days, but for many of us, cleaning and organizing 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: our space can be even harder to keep up with 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: now that we have all these other adult responsibilities we're 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: trying to figure out and manage. So how can we 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: turn it around and become more organized grown ups? How 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: often should we clean our homes? And with all the 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: organization and cleaning content out there, are there right and 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: wrong ways to clean? 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Hi? 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm Mollie. I'm a podcast producer and mediocre millennial, just 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: trying the best she can to figure out how to 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: be a responsible adult and better human one day at 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: a time, along as my colleague Matt. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Hey, there fell works in progress. 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna learn about all the things we wish. We're 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: in a guidebook about how to be an actual adult, 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: So start taking notes because this is well stuff. Hello, Hello, Hello, 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of Grown Up Stuff How 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: to Adult. Now. Matt, before we dig into it, talk 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: to me about your relationship with cleaning, Like do you 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: like to keep a clean home? 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: I have a theory about this, actually yeah, oh, let's 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: hear it, which is more so, like the environment in 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: which you grew up is kind of how you are 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: as an adult. So I grew up in a very 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Christine environment. My mom keeps a very clean home, meticulously clean, 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: one might say. I remember we'd have like people coming over, 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: like aunts, uncles, whoever, and like the whole we'd all 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: be cleaning. Like I remember being on the stairs vacuuming, 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: and I. 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Was like, why do we have to do this? She's 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: not going to care if about our stairs are clean. 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: So weirdly, as an adult, because I grew up in 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: a very clean environment, like I was never a clean 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: person because my mom, you know, was cleaning. So I 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: figured out that, like my house would get messy and 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I hate this, like I can't focus, 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: I can't think, And so I had to de facto 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: become a clean person because that is the environment that 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: I enjoyed being. And I have friends who grew up 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: in kind of like more you know, lase fair environments 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: who like they kind of live the same way. 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: So it's just a theory it's not super tested. 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: I agree and disagree to an extent. We are very similar. 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: Where like company was coming over, it was like all 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: hands on deck, but as a child, I was a tornado. 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Like my room was just absolute havoc. I don't know 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: when it shifted for me, if it was the shame 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: of like living with people who aren't your family too, 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: where you're like. 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, they know, they know. 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like always having company and you're like, I 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: can't show that side of myself. But now that it's 78 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: like in that other direction, I think I really need 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: to like understand the frequency of which I should be 80 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: cleaning certain areas, because I still think that there are 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: probably like certain areas of my own that I'm like 82 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: maybe abandoning a little bit more. 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: Especially like the toilet or the shower, Like the deep 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: clean stuff is hard to do regularly for sure. 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: How often should it be cleaning the tub? 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, I actually have no idea. 87 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully our guests today can help us understand if that's 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: an issue and where I should be refocusing it. 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: So when Molly told me she wanted to do an 90 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: episode about cleaning, I knew exactly who could help us 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: answer all of our cleaning questions. 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Anne Russell. 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: Anne is a self employed cleaner in the UK who 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: recently found fame on TikTok, where she shares her advice 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: on everything from how to get out tough launderstains to 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: what to do when you find a squirrel in your 97 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: toilet and. 98 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm not kidding that was a real thing, No. 99 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Legit, I saw that video. It was bonkers Today. An 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: has roughly two hundred thousand followers on the platform and 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: has been affectionately dubbed the TikTok Auntie. On top of 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: all this, and is also a published author. Her book 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: How to Clean Everything, a practical down to Earth guide 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: for anyone who doesn't know where to start, was published 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: just last year in twenty twenty two. 106 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: And a quick audio note that wrestling you hear in 107 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: the background is Anne's dog, who joined us for the interview. 108 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to the bottom of cleaning with 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: Anne and figure out why it's important to keep our 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: dwellings clean in the first place, and because of my 111 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: morbid curiosity, I had to ask her about the dirtiest 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: place in our homes. And first off, thank you so 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Can you explain to us why 114 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: it is so important to have a clean home. 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: It makes your life easier and it removes stress. It 116 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: doesn't need to be perfect. A spotless home says nothing 117 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: about anything other than you have a spotless home. But 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: one that is hygienic and clean makes it easier. You 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: can think more easily, you can find things, you're not 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: constantly looking for things on the heaps of rubbish, and 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: it's just a nicer environment. 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: It's more relaxing environment. 123 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: But you just have to hit the mark for you, Yeah, 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: not for your mother or for your aunt or whoever 125 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: that little voice on your shoulder that's poking at you 126 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: saying no, your house is not good enough. You need 127 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: to be able to find your stuff, You need able 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: to prepare your food, and you need to be able 129 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: to open the door to a guest if you want 130 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: to without embarrassment. 131 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned hygienic, and I would love to hear what 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: are the dirtiest surfaces in our home? What are the 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: ones that we really should maybe re examine if we're 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: not cleaning things regularly. 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: The first thing is humans do not need to live 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: in a sterile environment. They need it to be clean. 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: We're so sold on the idea of kill all the bacteria. Realistically, 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: things that pick up bacteria are things that you touch 139 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: with your fingers, so things like light switches and door handles, 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: and they're often these days made out of plastic. The 141 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: brass ones self sanitize, but very often if you look 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: at your light switches and doors, build up a finger 143 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: grease and they can be quite dirty. And that's how 144 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: you can spread things like colds and flu because you 145 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: then pick up a virus or a bacteria and you 146 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: touch your face and it will go into your eyes, 147 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: which is at primetary point, and you're spreading it around. 148 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: People tend to clean their lavatory, although maybe not down 149 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: the front of it and their work surface, but then 150 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: they forget that things like the handle of their kettle 151 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: or their kitchen light switch is not being cleaned, so 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: it doesn't need to be sanitized. It needs to be clean. 153 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: Bacteria and viruses need a damper environment, so if something 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: is clean and dry, it's probably perfectly sanitary. 155 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned cords and viruses, but what is the biggest 156 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: risk in us of we're nat cleaning our bathroom regularly. 157 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: What's the biggest risk to us if we're nat cleaning 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: our kitchen after using it, are there risks at all? 159 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: Well, there are probably not to you. 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: The thing is is that, yes, you can make yourself 161 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: ill by having a very dirty kitchen, But if you 162 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: look at people who live in the truly awful situations, 163 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: people who are unwell, who have water situations, they come 164 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: out of houses that are quite frankly, really dangerously unsanitary, 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: but they're actually quite healthy. They're kind of immunized to it. 166 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: But anybody else going into that home could become very, 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: very sick. And it's bacteria that you are in contact with. 168 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: Behind your sofa is absolutely filthy. It might affect your 169 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: breathing if the dust is coming out, and if you 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: have a lot of mold spores in the air, that 171 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: can cause breathing difficulties. But generally speaking, it's things that 172 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: you're not used to, things that people aren't exposed to 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: that cause a risk because they don't have a natural 174 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: immunity to it. So in your own home, you're probably 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: absolutely fine until you bring in a bit of chicken 176 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: and you put it down on something and you don't 177 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 4: clean that properly, or somebody else comes in and sneezes 178 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: on your light switch and you don't notice it, and 179 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: then you come in a few minutes later, you switch 180 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: the light, and then without thinking about it, you put 181 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: your hand to your eyes or to your face, and 182 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: you've just picked up their cold and you've transferred it 183 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: into your system on your fingers. I just keep things 184 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: clean and tidy, but I am very aware of the 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: things that people don't necessarily clean that they should, and 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: things that they spend far too long cleaning that they 187 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: probably don't really need to. 188 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about dust too. 189 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: How dangerous can dust be to our health? I've got 190 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: to imagine at some point dust could impact the way 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: we breathe as well. 192 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: If you've got sensitive skin, it can give you itchy skin. 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: It can upset your breathing slightly, especially if you're asthmatic. 194 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: If there's pet downd aer in there. Dust isn't dangerous 195 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 4: when it's just lying in a little furry heap on 196 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: top of a pile of books. It's only dangerous when 197 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: you breathe it or it gets into your skin. So 198 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: undisturbed dust in a corner is unlikely to harm you. 199 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: It might have dust mites, living in it, and they 200 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: might come out and nibble you. But again, isn't that 201 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: difficult to deal with? We have vacuum cleaners. Great ways 202 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 4: to dust things if you're in a real hurry is 203 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: use your vacuum cleaner. When you I've got the dust 204 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: into a vacuum cleaner, it goes in the bin, and 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 4: when you've damp dusted it, it goes down the loop 206 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: and gets flushed away not to come back, and then 207 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: you don't have to do it nearly so much. I'm 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: a great believer in hot soapy water and a cloth. 209 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 4: I use that for dusting. I do something that's called 210 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 4: damp dusting when you dry dust. If you wipe a 211 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: dry cloth across a dusty surface, you knock the dust 212 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: into the air and the surface looks lovely, and three 213 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 4: minutes later what went up comes down and it's dusty again. 214 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: So when I'm cleaning, I dip my cloth into hot 215 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: soapy water. I wring it out so it's just damp, 216 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: and I wipe that along the dusty surface and the 217 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 4: dust sticks to it. I then dip it in the water, 218 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: rinse the dust off, and repeat and keep going through, 219 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: and I keep replacing the water as it gets dirty, 220 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: but that also removes things like sticky fingerprints and dirt 221 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: and everything else. And I basically do that on all 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: hard surfaces, and therefore I'm leaving the surface clean and dry. 223 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: But I can do all the surfaces. And because I 224 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: can do all the surfaces quite quickly and easily, I'm 225 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: not then going back and missing bits, whereas if you 226 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: use something like people who love the spray polish, they 227 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: spray all the wood and they polish it, and then 228 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: they come back and they use glass cleaner on the glass, 229 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: and then they forget that they haven't done their light switches, 230 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: or they haven't done the lamp switches, or they haven't 231 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: done that because they're doing two separate jobs, Whereas you 232 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: can just do the one job quickly and easily. If 233 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: you want to use furniture polish or glass cleaner later 234 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: do but I just find it's easier and it's no fuss. 235 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: I've done it all in one process. And I tend 236 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: to pick up everything, including touch points on doors, which 237 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: are very often six inches below the handle, because a 238 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: lot of people when they walk, they don't touch the handle, 239 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: they just push the door. And I'm quite tall, so 240 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 4: for me, I push above the handle, but in fact 241 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 4: most people are quite short and they push below the handle, 242 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: and you don't notice it until you look, and then 243 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: you realize that on those faces of the door there 244 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: are dirty marks. 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: What do you think poses the greater risk of NAT 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: cleaning regular Your kitchen or your bathroom. 247 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: Probably your kitchen, because your toothbrush is the only thing 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: in your bathroom. You put inside your body, and generally speaking, 249 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: you have a good scrub around and you rinse out 250 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: your mouth. But you eat food, and you can give 251 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: yourself quite nasty food poisoning if you don't keep the 252 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: surfaces on which you prepare food clean, and if you 253 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: don't keep your fridge clean, and you don't avoid cross contamination, 254 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: which is very very very easy to do because you're 255 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: constantly bringing new food in. In commercial kitchens, they have 256 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: color coded chopping boards. Well, I have got a kitchen 257 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: the size of a postage damp. I do not have 258 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: colored coded chopping boards. I have wooden shopping boards, and 259 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: when I'm cleaning them, I wash them down with hot 260 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: soapy water and a stainless steel scrubby give them a 261 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: down good scrub and dry them off and they're fine, 262 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: But for example, I would prep a meal in that 263 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: I would do veg first, and I would prep the 264 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: meat last on the board and then wash the board 265 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: and leave it to dry. I wouldn't be doing my 266 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: chicken first and then just wiping it with a damp 267 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: cloth and then doing the salad. Anti back sprays are 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 4: useful if you are dealing with raw meats and things. 269 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: I don't use them very often, but I do use them, 270 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: and that would be if I've jointed a chicken. 271 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 5: Bag salads also have problems. 272 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: You need to rinch bag salads because they can have 273 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: various icks in them. Prepare the food and then spray 274 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: everything down liberally with anti back and then I'll go 275 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: and I'll put my gloves on and get my hot 276 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: soapy water, and then I'll pick up my chopping board 277 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: that will go in the sink. I don't immerse them 278 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: in water, and I will use my scrubby ands washing up. 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: You've give it a really thorough scrub, put it to drain, 280 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: and then I'll bring a cloth out in hot soapy 281 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: water and I will wipe and clean all of those 282 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: sides that have been sitting for three or four minutes. 283 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: Under the anti back and then hopefully I'm just cleaning 284 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: it all off and it will be completely sanitary. And 285 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: when you are using anti backs, if you look at 286 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 4: the back of them and read the small print, antibacterials 287 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: and anti virals have what is known as a contact time, 288 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: and if you read fine print, it will tell you 289 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: how long the liquid must be in contact with a 290 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 4: surface to achieve the results that are put in very 291 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: big letters on the front of the bottle, and that 292 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: can be anything from thirty seconds to as long as 293 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: five minutes. It's not instant. 294 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never thought about that. That's very good to know. 295 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: I think so many of us are just spraying and 296 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: wiping immediately. 297 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying it well because obviously you're 298 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: physically removing them from a surface, and if the surface 299 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: then dries, any remaining bacteria should die, but you're not 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: killing them, and the sprays kill. 301 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: So while improperly cleaning your kitchen will definitely make you 302 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: violently ill, we need to clean the rest of our 303 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: homes to protect others who may enter it and come 304 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: into contact with our germs. On these major touch points. 305 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I've also learned I have been dusting wrong in using 306 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: antibacterial cleaners incorrectly. 307 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: This whole time, grown up stuff How to Adult will 308 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: be right back after a quick break, and now back 309 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: to grown up stuff how to adult. 310 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: What are some things, product solutions, tools that you consider 311 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: essential for kind of your home cleaning kit? 312 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: Not as much as you think. 313 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: A selection of absorbent cloths, be they microfiber or cotton. 314 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: Things like polyester won't work because the fibers are not absorbent, 315 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: So it needs to be knitted cotton or woven cotton, 316 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: or microphobic because although that is synthetic, it is designed 317 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: to be very absorbent. However, they also produce microplastics, so 318 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: there's a trade off. I do use them because they 319 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: produce excellent results, but I try to use them as 320 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: as the last resort, as it were, a lot of 321 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: my cleaning clothes are things like old t shirts, old 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: bits of sheet, old cotton clothes, things that are no 323 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: longer useful as a textile, and I cut them up 324 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: into squares old towels. When towels start to go thin, 325 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: chop them up into squares. They are cotton, they degrade. 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: They make wonderful cleaning clothes. Wonderful dusting clothes. They are free. 327 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: You can use them, you can wash them. When they 328 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: go beyond redemption, you can either put them in the 329 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: compost bin, which is a preferred option, or you can 330 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: throw them away and they don't put plastic out into 331 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: the environment. And then you can use your microfiber cloths 332 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: because they are really really good. They produce excellent results, 333 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: but when you need them, not just for every day, 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: and you'll save yourself money too. I like to have 335 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: a squeegee because I use that in the shower to 336 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: clean windows. We often have some kind of paper towel 337 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: for washing up liquid dish soap of some description. Now, 338 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: if I live in the UK and we have hard 339 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: water that has calcium carbonate chalk deposited in it, and 340 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: I think you probably have that in some places in 341 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 4: the States and possibly somewhere, I think you have iron. 342 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: In solution in your water as well. 343 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: So to get rid of those you generally need a 344 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: specialist cleaner. Acidic cleaners. I think you've got something called 345 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: calcium lime and rust over there that works. In the 346 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 4: Europe we've got something called viacal. They're mildly acidic. You 347 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 4: spray them on, you agitate them in You must use 348 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: enough of them because it's a chemical reaction, so you 349 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: give it time to work. And you must use enough 350 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 4: of the spray because as it works, it neutralizes itself. 351 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: Oven cleaner I use because I don't like scrubbing, and 352 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: I use there's a very soft, but very coarse form 353 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: of stainless steel scrubbing pad that I find invaluable, and 354 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: a pair of rubber gloves. 355 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: Calcium lime and rust also known more colloquially as CLR. 356 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: It really does amazing things. I'm adabath. Yes, where do 357 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: you stand down? A lot of people have started kind 358 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: of using what they have at home, like baking, soda 359 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and vinegar. Do you have any kind of at home 360 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: recommendations or things like that? 361 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean some of them are just people put 362 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: lemon juice and toothpaste to clean. Some of that it's 363 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: just not worth it. The main thing to remember is 364 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 4: that there are only so many chemicals in existence used 365 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: to make cleaning products. I use vinegar a lot. I 366 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: don't use it for limescale because it's not strong enough 367 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: where I live to dissolve the water deposits. I use 368 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: it instead of furniture polish because I have quite a 369 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 4: lot of antique furniture, as do quite a few of 370 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: my clients, and mist of that is excellent, just to 371 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: dust wood. Bicarbonates of soda. Baking soda is very useful. 372 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: It's a mild alkaline and it is a mild abrasive. 373 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 4: If you mix it with lemon juice and vinegar, you 374 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 4: get very expensive fizz and water because they neutralize each other, 375 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: so don't do that. Vinegar is useful because it is 376 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: mildly acidic and mildly antibacterial, and it is cheap. I 377 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: think that realistically, for most people you want to do 378 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: it simply and economically. You use washing up dish soap 379 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: because it's a suffectant and it dissolves grease. Baking soda 380 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: is a mild to braceic, but you can just as 381 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 4: well go and buy a little tub of vim or 382 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: ajax or whatever is there the scouring powders. Just buy 383 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: what works for you and what is affordable for your pocket. 384 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: And I'm never keen on lemons because whilst they're acidic 385 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: and they smell great, they've got sugar in them and 386 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 4: it's fruit, so you're smearing fruit over things to clean 387 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: it and I just think probably not going to smear 388 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 4: fruit over things to clean them. I do use things 389 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: like tomato ketchup and brown sauce to clean copper and brass, 390 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: but that's just because they are acidic thixotropic liquids. Generally speaking, 391 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: like I said, you don't need to spend a lot 392 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: of money. You don't need to buy the very expensive sprays. 393 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: I quite often buy kitchen sprays and when they run out, 394 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: I just refill them with water. 395 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: The squirt of dish soap. 396 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: I love it. I want to kind of level set 397 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: with our audience here, and I'm going to go through 398 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: a list of places, and I would love for you 399 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: to kind of give your idea of how often we 400 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: should be cleaning these surfaces or areas of our homes. 401 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Sound good, Shoot, let's see, all right, kitchen countertaps. 402 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: Twice a day every time you use the kitchen, every 403 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: time you prepare food. If you don't prepare food in 404 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: the morning, but you should always clear up, wash up 405 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 4: before you go to bed, even if you don't actually 406 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: do the washing up. You should never leave the surfaces soiled. 407 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: So when you finish preparing your food, you absolutely must 408 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: wipe your surfaces down, leave your clothes to wear, leave 409 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: it clean and dry because you don't want it damp. 410 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 4: And when you finished using clothes, if you are not 411 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: putting them into the wash or you know, to be washed, 412 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: you need to rinse them out, wring them out hard 413 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: and spread them out so that the air can get 414 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: to them and that they can dry. So yeah, kitchen's 415 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: very very rap. If you spill something in your fridge, 416 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: wipe it up at once, immediately, don't leave it excellent. 417 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: The next one is kitchen sink. I'm assuming twice as well, 418 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: twice a day. 419 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: Yes, but weirdly probably not as much because you're not 420 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: putting food that you're going to eat in the sink. 421 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 4: Your countertops you prepare food on, and what's touched that 422 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: countertop will be going in your mouth. But it's very 423 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: unlikely that your dirty washing up is going back into 424 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: your mouth. And that's very often when I'm cooking, I 425 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: pile all my dirty everything into the kitchen sink as 426 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 4: I'm working, and then I'll wipe my countertops down. I 427 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: will load my dishwasher from the kitchen sink. Anything that 428 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: can't go in the dish washer will then be washed 429 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: up and stapped into the other sink to drain and dry. 430 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: Then I will just rinse down my sink and make 431 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: sure the bits are out of it. But I'll probably 432 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: only clean it, clean it till it's perfect, probably once 433 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: every day, once every other day. It's always got coffee 434 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: stains in it because I rinsed my teapot out in it. 435 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Okay, what about our refrigerators. 436 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 4: I've got into the habit, although I didn't do it 437 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 4: this week, that when I'm going shopping, usually in the morning, 438 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: I clean my fridge out. Bear in my British fridges 439 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: are quite small. I sit down in front of the fridge, 440 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: I pull everything out of the fridge, have a look 441 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: at it. Anything that needs to be bin goes in 442 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: the bin. I sort out the fridge, see what food 443 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: I've got, and wipe it clean while I'm in there, 444 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: and then I know what food I've got, I know 445 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: what I need to buy when I'm at the supermarket, 446 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 4: which obviously helps with my shopping bills, and it gives 447 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: me a chance to clean the fridge and make sure 448 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: that there's no cucumber going rather unpleasant in the salad draw. 449 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: And I'm also keeping a regular check on the food 450 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: that's in there, and things like the little drainage hole 451 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: at the back of fridges which often gets blocked. Bathroom 452 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: think once or twice a week oddly. Again, it's because 453 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: when you think about what is dangerous to you, now 454 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 4: you can do it more often if you wish. And 455 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 4: actually I often end up cleaning my sink while I'm 456 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: cleaning my teeth, because you know, I wipe my toothbrush, 457 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: start scrubbing, and while I'm busy scrubbing away at my teeth, 458 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of moving things out the way 459 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: with the other hand, and then I spray bathroom clean 460 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: around it, carry on cleaning my teeth, you know, rinse 461 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: my teeth off, spit down the thing, and then I've 462 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: just it sat there for a bit. Then I just 463 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: get a sponge wipe round it, wipe round the tap 464 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: and everything and rinse it down and it's not a 465 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: spotless clean, but it gets the worst off of it, 466 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: and then I don't have to worry too much about 467 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: doing a really thorough clean. And that I think is 468 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: the key to an awful lot of keeping your home 469 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 4: pleasant is not cleaning down to the roots of it 470 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: all the time. Is just doing it little and often 471 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: to keep it manageable and keep it at bay. When 472 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: you have a shower, before you step out the shower, 473 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: take your screegey and squeege you the water off the 474 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: tile and the shower glass. When you get out the bath, 475 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 4: wrap yourself in a towel, pull the plug up, and 476 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: then squeegely the water as it comes off to stop 477 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: it clinging to the bathtub. It won't keep it spotless, 478 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: but it will mean that you don't have to clean 479 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: it as often. 480 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: So that is one of the other things I was 481 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: going to ask is how often we should be cleaning 482 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: our bathtubs or showers. 483 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: Your bathtubs and showers once or twice a week, okay, 484 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: your loo probably three times a week. 485 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: And colloaquisle here we call it the toilet. 486 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 487 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: I don't know why, but you know the most important 488 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: thing you need to wipe a new bathroom is the 489 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: taps and the bit where you flush the loop. To 490 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: be honest, I usually do that every day because again 491 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: you touch it, and you use the lavatory, you render 492 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: yourself clean, then you touch the system flush before you've 493 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: washed your hands, and then you turn on the tap. 494 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: You wash your hands your hands are clean and you 495 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: touch the tap again. So as long as you spray 496 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: them semi regularly and just It sounds very picky, but 497 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: it actually really doesn't have to be. Generally speaking, I 498 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: do use an anti back in the loo and the 499 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 4: lavatory to keep it clean, because my method of cleaning 500 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: a lavatory is quite simple. I make sure that the 501 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: lavatory is clear, there's only water in there. I squirt 502 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: clean around and leave it, and then I drench all 503 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: of the outside in anti back, lots of it, lots 504 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: and lots and lots of it, especially on the hinges 505 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 4: of the seat and any crevices, I mean mountains of it. 506 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: Then I leave that to sit because it needs that 507 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: contact time and it needs time to soak in. And 508 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: then I take a brush to the loo and I 509 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: scrub the bowl of the loo so that that is clean. 510 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: Flush the brush, and I hold the brush in the 511 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: stream of clean water to rinse the cleaner off because 512 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: it's got cleaner on it. Put that back in its holder, 513 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 4: and then I use loo paper lavatory paper to wipe 514 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: the loo down, including the front of the loop and 515 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: under the seat, and blot out of the hinges. And 516 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: then that goes straight in the lavatory and it's flushed. 517 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: That's good advice. Yeah, And then I want to talk 518 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: about some of the textiles that we use regularly too, 519 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: So your bathroom towels, your bed sheets, your pillowcases. How 520 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: often shall we be throwing those in the wall us? 521 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: Ideally, I think towels. It does depend. 522 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: Some family share towels, and it depends how much use 523 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: they get, and how wet towels that hang around and 524 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: are damp smell funky really quite quickly. If towels are 525 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: hung to air, they don't. And if you are showering 526 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: and bathing regularly and you get out of the shower 527 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: and the bath clean, they're not actually really getting that grubby. 528 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: So it does depend how much use they get. But 529 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: generally you know when a towel needs washing, right you 530 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: pick it up and think, oh, I need a clean tail, 531 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: So when you think it needs washing, pillow cases probably 532 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: once a week. These things are dependent because some people, 533 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 4: you know, they sweat and they toss and they turn 534 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: in their sleep, so within a few days their bed 535 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: is crumpled and it feels icky. Other people go to 536 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: sleep very rarely sweat and don't move in their sleep. 537 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: One of my female friends, she can go to bed 538 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: and she'll climb into a beautifully made bed. She will 539 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: sleep the whole night. She will get out of bed, 540 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: she will pull up the duvet and it will look immaculate. 541 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: She doesn't move in her sleep, and I don't think 542 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: she sweats. People differ, so you have to do what 543 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: feels comfortable for you. But I will say, if you 544 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 4: haven't changed your sheets for six months and you would 545 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: like to invite a little company into those sheets, you 546 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: might want to change your sheets. 547 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Great advice. And we talked a lot about Dora Nabs 548 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: light switches. I'm guessing we should do that kind of 549 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: go through and every day wipe those down. 550 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to be fair. 551 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: Again, it's down to moisture. But yeah, if you've got colds, 552 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: definitely do it every day. If somebody's got a tummy 553 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 4: bug or you've got colds, then do it every day. 554 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 5: Otherwise, once or twice a week, maybe. 555 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: The rangeane sheets before date night. 556 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: Check. 557 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Anne is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to 558 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: a hygienic halm. But there is so much cleaning content 559 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: on social media and a fervent audience consuming it all. 560 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: Myself included. I mean, there's just something really satisfying about 561 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: watching people organize their clutter and magically remove spots and stains. 562 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: But as a cleaning influencer herself, I wanted to know 563 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: Anne's thoughts on the emergence of all this tidying on 564 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: TikTok and elsewhere. Is it helpful or is it secretly 565 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: shaming those of us who don't have perfectly clean, minimalist 566 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: styled homes. I think there has been kind of this 567 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: obsession with the declutter or the cleanliness influencer. People really 568 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: love to see an organized fridge and closet online. Why 569 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: do you think people are so attracted to. 570 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: This Organizing a drawl? 571 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: Putting your pens in color order in a tray is 572 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: very satisfying because you are imposing control and order on 573 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: a chaotic world, and when you feel insecure, it helps 574 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: make you feel safe and in control, which is great. 575 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: But people do not have the time and the ability 576 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 4: to do that, so they watch other people do it 577 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: online because it is soothing to watch other people imposing 578 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: order on a disorderly world. The problem is, of course, 579 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: then they come out of that into their own world, 580 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: and their own world is very disorderly, and not everybody 581 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: has the mental capacity or the knowledge or the energy 582 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: to do that. So therefore it's not always good to 583 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: do that, because then they get they're like a rabbit 584 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: in the headlights. They don't know where to begin, and 585 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: they start to feel low level bad. And there is 586 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 4: this very strong sensation people have that it is all 587 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: or nothing, and actually there is a lot of space 588 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: between all and nothing, and most of us are happy 589 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: muddling around. And you don't have to do it all 590 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: at once. You can do some of it today and 591 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: some of it tomorrow. And as long as you remember that, 592 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: that's fine, it doesn't matter. And do not forget yet 593 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: that we have been trained, every single one of us 594 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: to be consumers. We are taught from a very early 595 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: age that and all advertising. I was told this by 596 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: somebody I knew who worked in marketing works the same way. 597 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: It gives you a problem. You're old, ugly, your house 598 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: is dirty, you can't cook, your dog smells, your children 599 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: are uncontrollable, your life's generally awful, and by the way, 600 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: your carl's horrible. But if you buy product X, your 601 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: house will smell great, or this cream you'll look years younger. 602 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: Your lover will adore you once more. The problem is 603 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: is that we are drip fed those messages all day, 604 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: every day to encourage us to buy things, and a 605 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: lot of those things we don't need, but we do 606 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: take on board those messages about how inadequate we are. 607 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: And I don't think that's very, very healthy, because what 608 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: it encourages people to go out and do is buy 609 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: loads of stuff that they have no idea how to use, 610 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: and then they've got more things to look after, and 611 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: they don't know what to do with it all, and 612 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: they're just drowning. Forty years ago, when I was a child, 613 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: mothers stayed at home and cared for the house. They 614 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 4: didn't have modern impliances. It was a job they did 615 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: all the time. So these things they were, you must 616 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: vacuum your floor every day, and you do this. We 617 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: don't have time for that anymore. We live busy, modern lives. 618 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: Our homes must function for us. I try and do 619 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: things as I am aware of them, and then depending 620 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: on what I'm doing and how much energy I've got, 621 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: once a week, once a fortnight, once a month, I'll 622 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: go through the whole place and I'll blitz a couple 623 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: of rooms. I'll take things off and do a big 624 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: job and return it to looking immaculate. But it's safe 625 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 4: to say that my house is never always all immaculate. 626 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: Bits of it are immaculate in sequence. So everything is 627 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: cleaned within a two month period. I don't do it 628 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: all at once. I do it as it fits in 629 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: because I don't have a showroom. It doesn't matter to 630 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: me that I walk into an immaculate room. But if 631 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: it matters to you and you can't function, some people 632 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 4: can't cope unless it's perfect, then you know your home 633 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: must serve you. Your home needs to be clean enough 634 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 4: for you. It needs to be tidy enough that you 635 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: can find your possessions and things that you need. And 636 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: it needs to be allow you the mental space so 637 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: that it's not itching at the back of your head 638 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 4: and you can think clearly in that space. And as 639 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: long as you can relax in your own home and 640 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: you're not going to poison yourself, then that will do. 641 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 642 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a great note to end on, and 643 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Do you have 644 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: any parting wisdom and where can we find you to 645 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: hear more? Great advice. 646 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: My main thing is don't let it get overwhelming. This 647 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: doesn't have to be world changing. It's simple stuff. Anyone 648 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: can do it if they do it in little steps. 649 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: I love that. And what is your TikTok handle? Ann 650 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: russell O three perfect and thank you so much? 651 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 5: Thank you. 652 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so we know an uncluttered space is good for 653 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: our mental health. But like so many things on social media, 654 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: too much of anything isn't great. It's important that we 655 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: don't get sucked into the consumerism of the organization trends 656 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: out there and end up with just more stuff. Plus, 657 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: just because your home doesn't look like the after on 658 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: the Home Edit, it doesn't mean you're doing it wrong. 659 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: What I've learned from Anne is you don't have to 660 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: break the bank to keep a clean home. Find the 661 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: things that work for you. A basic antibacterial cleaner and 662 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: hot water with dish soap can go a long way. 663 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: You also don't have to spend a ton of money 664 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: on fancy microfiber cloths. Sometimes an old cotton T shirt 665 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: that you were planning on getting rid of anyway is 666 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: just the ticket. Also, read the back of those antibacterial 667 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: sprays and make sure you let them soak in for 668 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: the recommended amount of time. It's a good idea to 669 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: clean touch points once a day or more if you 670 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: or someone in your home is sick, and don't forget 671 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: to clean the spots on the door right above and 672 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: below the handle. That's where most of us are actually 673 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: touching the door. And a damp cloth for dusting keeps 674 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: the dust from floating up and resettling immediately on the 675 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: spots you just cleaned. But ultimately find out what level 676 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: of clean is maintainable and works for you, and you 677 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: can clean in stages. You don't have to do it 678 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: all at once. That's all for this episode. Be sure 679 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: to join us again in two weeks as we continue 680 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: this journey to being more responsible adults and healthier humans. Matt, 681 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: what's next on Tour for Adulthood? 682 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: Next we are pulling into credit card Landia credits? 683 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: What is it? Why do you need it? And how 684 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: or why we should use a credit card? 685 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, and how many credit cards? Is too many 686 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: credit cards? 687 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: You know? 688 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm just as I'm asking for a friend, simply asking 689 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: for a friend. 690 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: Well, Molly, we will have answers for your friend next 691 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: time on grown up stuff, How do I don't. 692 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: And remember you might not be graded in life, but 693 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: it never hurts to do your homework. This is a 694 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: production from Ruby Studios at iHeartMedia. 695 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Molly Sosha and Matt Stillo. 696 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: This episode was engineered by Matt Stillo and. 697 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: Written by Molly Sosia. 698 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: Special thanks to the Ruby team including Eden Fixel, Rachel Swan, Krasnov, 699 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: Amber Smith, Nikia Swinton, Siera Kaiser, and Andy Kelly.