1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey B Joe P. Zapia, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: and today we're gonna take a look at some of 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: the landing spots post NFL Draft, what it means for 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: all your fantasy draft shares, what it means for your 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: dynasty leagues, your red draft. We're gonna have some great 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: discussions about some wide receivers and some tight ends with 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: my favorite of all the analysts here. That's right, don't 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: tell anybody else. Don't tell Debro, don't tell Andrew Erickson. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: It's Jake Sealey from the Athletic everybody, and it's Pat 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: fitz Morris. I can't. I love everybody here. And I 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: am back fresh from the NFL Draft too, which was 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: an incredible experience. I just want to tell everybody out there. 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the NFL and the draft 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: is headed to a city anywhere near you, We're talking 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: like two to three hour drive whatever it is. 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Go. 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: It's like Coachella for football fans. It's on all weekend event. 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: The interactive stuff is amazing. The NFL puts on a party. 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: It is fun. It's a great time. Go with your friends, 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: go your family, take everybody with you. It's an experience 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: you'll remember for the rest of your life. I got 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: to take my daughter and also I end up going 24 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: with my best friend and his son and it was great. 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: We had the best time. And then we played some 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: flag football on the weekend too, absolute core memory stuff. 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I love it and I just want to encourage everybody 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: to go do that. But of course there's business to 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: have here. We're talking about business, and we're gonna talk 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: to some of these players right now. Make sure you 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast speed and of course to the 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well as we discuss some of these 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: players and gentlemen, I'm gonna start here with some of 34 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the instant impact guys. I want to talk about guys 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: that are going to see in twenty twenty six come 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: in there and actually make an impact right away. Because 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: we know this draft class has taken a lot of hits, 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: right Jake Sealey, They've taken a lot of shots over 39 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: the last couple months. Yere, it's not that good of 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: a class. We all know that it. Maybe he doesn't 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: have the star power of some other classes, but it 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean there aren't some guys that can come in 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: there day one, week one and make a difference in fantasy. 44 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: So give me a name on your list right now, Jake, 45 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: that you think people should be paying attention to you 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: think can do just that. 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm tired. 48 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: I'm actually I'm already tired, and has nothing to do 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: with the fact that I woke up. 50 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was actually set me up. 51 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: I was surprised by that. 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: I thought you were about to say my favorite was 53 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: Pat not me first, And so I like you completely. 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I like everybody knows that. 55 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: Through that sweeper on me. 56 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 4: So no, at least like I woke up at four, 57 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: got back at one o'clock in the morning going to Pittsburgh. 58 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 4: I wasn't there for Draft D I was there the 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: day before. And I'm not tired from that. I'm tired 60 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: from already having this discourse everywhere I can find about 61 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: how Mikayle Lemon's gonna suck with the Eagles, Like I 62 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 4: just I'm exhausted already. Like it's I put it this way, 63 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 4: there's two things here. I'll give you two comparisons. Is 64 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: one first is like people want to blank on Jalen 65 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: Hurts so much that Lemon is now catching shade because 66 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: we talked about Lemon before the draft, talked about the 67 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: fact that his ceiling is a ma Ron Saint Brown, which, 68 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: by the way, there was concerns about a mom Ron 69 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: Saint Brown only being slot ability, where we heard Jordan 70 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: As say back when he was drafted potentially only having 71 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: slot ability. We heard Jackson Smith a Jigba just a 72 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: few years ago potentially only having slot ability. And we're 73 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: going so far down this road of hating on Hurts 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 4: that now we're hating on Lemon, and all of a sudden, 75 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 4: Lemon goes from tier one too. He can only succeed 76 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: short to intermediate, over the middle of the field and 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: nowhere else. Because everybody's bringing up that Jalen Hurts doesn't 78 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: throw over the middle that much. There's a difference between 79 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: doesn't and can't, and he absolutely can. He is actually 80 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: one of the best throwing over the middle. When you 81 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: look at any number you want touchdown an interception ratio, 82 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: touchdown to percentage of attempts, completion, percentage on target percentage 83 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: pick one, he's top five, top ten, and like everything, 84 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: it's just he doesn't need to. This is an offense 85 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 4: that was built not to scheme wide receivers over the middle. 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: And yes, Aj Brown used to do more with the Titans, 87 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: but the Eagles didn't ask them to do that, and Hurts, Yes, 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: is a better outside deep bowl thrower. But this is 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: I'll give you my baseball comparison, Joe. This is like 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: people can play complaining that Kyle Schwarber doesn't hit enough doubles. 91 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: Who cares like that's not his primary skill set? Can 92 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: he still hit doubles? Yes, but his primary skill set 93 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: as otherwise. And now you look at this and you're 94 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: really gonna tell me that the Eagles not only drafted Lemon, 95 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: they traded up to make sure they got Lemon. They 96 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: took him in the first round with AJ Brown sitting 97 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: next to his bags, getting ready to walk to the 98 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: New England Patriots, and they're going to say, you know what, 99 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: We're still only going to use Lemon in this one 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: specific way, and we're not going to adjust our offense 101 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: with Sean Manyon, who by the way, runs a very 102 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: balanced offense with a lot of play action, shotgun and 103 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: getting his wide receivers into zone space. Oh my god, 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: what does Lemon do obliterate zone space? It's just baffling 105 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: to me. Yes, is it a spot where we do 106 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: have to associate a little bit more risk. Yes, at 107 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 4: the same time crucifying him and saying how bad Jalen 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: Hurts is, He's not. This is an offense that is 109 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: going to change. Teams change with their weapons. And as 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: you can tell, I'm just already tired about everybody destroying 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: mkayle Lemon because Jalen Hurts is so terrible. 112 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I always like when Jake is frustrated and just completely 113 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: lost all of his patients and we haven't even turned 114 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the corner into May first, like that is. 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: Everything else is a lot more positive. 116 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm just very tired over that. 117 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I get it. No, I totally understand. And look, Kay Lemons, 118 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna fight for the football. We all 119 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: know what a dog he is. And and I do 120 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: agree that good teams always somehow change and evolve their 121 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: offenses or even defenses based on the personnel they have, right, 122 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: and what's been you know what worked a couple of 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: years ago for you, if you're egals, clearly wasn't working 124 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: last year. So you've got to go back to the 125 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: salt mines and figure out what's going on now. My 126 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: only reservation here really is less with Lemon more with 127 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: Mannia because it's first time offensive coordinator and I don't 128 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: know what to expect necessarily out of him. This is 129 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: a new role for him, so to me, that's a 130 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: little bit also like you got to get all these 131 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: guys to buy in. You've got some veterans here, You've 132 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: got some guys who I know some people think that 133 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith can have an type season like okay and Admitterlyzy. 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: Sorry to jump back into Admittedly, the reference of the 135 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 4: Manion offense is a very small sample, Like we're using 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: the college, then there's practices and stuff like that, so 137 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: it's a small sample of what we can expect. 138 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: But at the same thing, real quick to go back to. 139 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: The whole situation of what he's falling into and why 140 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: I like him is we're talking about the target distribution. 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: And I even looked at just the past two years, 142 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: not the first two years before Saqua Barkley got there, 143 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: of them playing together. The last two seasons, well, if 144 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: you look at it over a seventeen game pace for 145 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: aj Brown, one hundred and thirty six targets for Dafonte 146 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: Smith one hundred and fourteen. 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: So even if Defantae Smith takes. 148 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: The one A and he only falls into Devonte Smith volume, 149 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: that's still one hundred and fourteen targets he's walking into 150 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: from Jalen Hurts as a rookie. Like I just I'm 151 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of mikayle Lemon because I'm putting 152 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: him first. Admittedly, the gap between all three are like 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: here here here. If you want to argue for Tyson 154 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: or Tate, I have no problem with it. I just 155 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: go to Hurts versus Ward versus Shuck. I'm gonna take Hurts' 156 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: wide receiver when they're that close. That's really what it 157 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: comes down to. 158 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta get Pat here. 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat's been way too long. 160 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: So somebody wake Pat up? Pat? Are you awake? You 161 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: ready to do the show? Pat? He wasn't McKay lemon 162 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the first wide receiver selected in this draft, and I 163 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: know you want to talk about that guy. Carnell Tate, 164 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: who ended up with the Tennessee Titans, could be cam 165 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Ward's number one. As early as twenty twenty six. They 166 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: did bring in Wandell Robinson. They have a new head coach. 167 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: They have a new oc it's a lot of new, 168 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fresh. Sometimes that takes a little 169 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: while to jive. So how does it work when you 170 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: throw a rookie, even with the skill set of Carnell Tate, 171 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: into that kind of new mix of things. 172 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna work well, Joe. But first I 173 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: just want to say I totally agree with Jake on 174 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: why do. 175 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: You do that? 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, to hear his take, I wanted the year if 177 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: he disagreed or it was willing on this. 178 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: Jake had a Twitter thread where he really delivered the 179 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 5: goods on this. As far as Jalen hurts being bad 180 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: about throwing over the middle, true, he's done it at 181 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 5: a low rate, a much lower rate than other starting quarterbacks. 182 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: But he has been really afficial at it. And Jake 183 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: totally brought the numbers and the highlights to show that. 184 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: And look, I just picked Tyson over or Lemon over 185 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: Tyson in a rookie draft last night. And look, aj 186 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: Brown has had four straight thousand yard seasons. DeVante Smith 187 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: has had three out of four. In the one year 188 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: he missed, he would have gotten there if he had 189 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: missed four games. So like Jalen Hurts can support two 190 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: thousand yard receivers, and we know AJ Brown isn't long for. 191 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia to that point too. Like, I also wonder what 192 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: that team looks like when you cut out, like whether 193 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: it is AJ Brown going to the Rams or to 194 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the patriotsor wherever he's going. We know he's going somewhere, 195 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: we know it ain't Philadelphia. How much also does that 196 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe help kind of reset everything to where maybe Jalen 197 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Hurts takes on a different sort of leadership role where 198 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't his team to begin with. 199 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl. I'm talking about, Like you know, 200 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: sometimes locker rooms get weird and sometimes voices get loud. 201 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: This is an opportunity here for Jalen Hurts kind of, 202 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: I think, to really assume a different level of the 203 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: stage in his career and maybe the most important time 204 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: when they've hit the skids a little bit after having 205 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of success. Do you think that is a 206 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: good thing for a young player like MacKaye Lemon to 207 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: come into that kind of scenario. 208 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: I think so. You know, there was obviously some disharmony 209 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: with the A. J. Brown situation, probably exactly so maybe 210 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 5: a new vibe in the locker room, and like Jake 211 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: has kind of hit it at I think this is 212 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 5: kind of signaling they want to do more business over 213 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: the middle of the field, not just with Lemon but 214 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 5: also Eli Stowers too. You know, I think we're going 215 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: to see Hrtz throw to the middle of the field 216 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: a lot more so back to Carnell Tate. Yes, I mean, 217 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: I think just everything points toward Carnell Tate having a 218 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: big role right off the bat. The Titans passed up 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: potential impact defenders like Rvel Reese and Sonny Styles to 220 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 5: draft Tate fourth. Overall, they just they wanted to do 221 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 5: right by cam Ward and with good reason. Ward was 222 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: their number one pick last year. The Titans made a 223 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: big bet on him and they needed to pay off. 224 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: So the target competition pretty sparse for Colonel Tate. They 225 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 5: brought in Wandeale Robinson and he's been a high volume 226 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: receiver for the Giants the last couple of years. I 227 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: think that was more out of necessity than by design. 228 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: And then there's you know, thirty one year old Calvin Ridley, 229 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 5: alec Iamanor who was okay, Shamir d k who's probably 230 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 5: back to just being a special teamer now that Wandal's there, 231 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 5: and then gunner helmet tight end. So I think Tate 232 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: could get one hundred and twenty targets in year one 233 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: and that would make him a probably a top twenty 234 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: target earner, top twenty, top twenty five. And Carnell Tate 235 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: just seems like he's a really good match for cam Ward. 236 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: Like Tate's ball tracking and body control are pretty special, 237 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: makes big plays downfield. Ward is an aggressive downfield thrower, 238 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: like he likes to take shots downfield, and that was 239 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: actually one of the criticisms of Ward before the twenty 240 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: twenty five draft that he was prone to playing hero ball. Well, 241 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 5: Cornel Tate makes hero catches, So I think this is 242 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: going to be a good pairing Jake. 243 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I know when it comes to Tate, know, people wi 244 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: knock him, Oh he doesn't even the best wide receiver 245 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: on his team, and I just kind of I shrug 246 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: at that because, like, well, it just so happened he 247 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: had them to be playing with the best wide receiver 248 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: prospecting college football on the same team, So you're gonna 249 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: knock him because maybe he's the second best. Like I mean, 250 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: it's just kind of crazy to me that that that 251 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: logic is somehow dinging him in the NFL. And I 252 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: also think it was surprising but maybe not dumb, because 253 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: you have Robert Sala coming in defensive mind head coach, 254 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people just automatically go, oh, 255 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: the new version's gonna come in and take defense. Well 256 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: they didn't. They r on the offensive side of the football. 257 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: And to tell you the truth, Jake, when you have 258 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: a young franchise quarterback, to give him a number one 259 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver, which I think Tape can be, not just 260 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but in fantasy too. To me, it's 261 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: showing that Robert Sala recognizes it's twenty twenty six and yeah, 262 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: his defense is gonna be good. He's gonna figure things out. 263 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: But if you're going to really compete at that next level, 264 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you have to get more offense. Maybe a lesson he 265 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: learned the hard way with the Jets. 266 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: Oh didn't sound like your final spot of talk. 267 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Well, it was like it was like a doctor Evil level. 268 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's. 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: It took me a second, but you know it's funny, 270 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: is like DeVante. 271 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: Adams wasn't the best wide receiver for the Rams. 272 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: I had that Pukunakua guy, but he was just putting 273 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 4: up touchdowns and also top ten, or you go back 274 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: to the years that Green Bay had two every single 275 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: year you turned around, or the fact that could go 276 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 4: down the list when Godwin was actually better one year 277 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: than Mike Evans, and like you think, there's so many 278 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 4: times like okay, cool, he's still top ten, as in 279 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: like the potential to be on this team as the 280 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: number two. I really like the fit that he said. 281 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: Fitz said with Tate, my concern is that I'm a 282 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: little bit more scared of Wandel Robinson than he is. 283 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: It sounds like. 284 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,239 Speaker 4: Mostly because I feel like it wasn't only a necessity. 285 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: I just feel like Brian Dable loved Wandell Robinson and 286 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: for all intensive purposes, brought him with him. I know 287 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: he's not the head coach, and I know he's not 288 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: the GM, but for all intentsive purposes, I think he 289 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: had a big voice in Wandell coming to the Titans. 290 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: So I do think the target share might be close 291 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: between the two, and they're the top two, which is fine. 292 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: The only concern it goes back to Dable is actually, 293 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: because of everything you said, fits. I'm just concerned that 294 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: he sends Tate on twenty yard routes every time he 295 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: possibly ken similar to what he did with Darius Slayton. 296 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: And as we just saw with what happened with Brian 297 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: Thomas once Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers became a thing, 298 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: your hit rate on those kind of depth of targets 299 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: is lower. So yeah, it'll be cool for air yards 300 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: per target and cool for his yards or perception, but 301 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: is it going to be as consistent when we just 302 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: saw what was the biggest concern of cam Ward coming 303 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: out of his rookie season as completion percentage. 304 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: So they should be there. 305 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: That is his skill set. That's just if we want 306 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 4: to talk about if we're gonna ding these guys a 307 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: little bit, My only concern all three of them, to 308 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: be clear, are tracking inside my top thirty in redraft, 309 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: not even the dynasty. I would talk about this specifically 310 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: for redraft, like as rookies at least wide receiver threes 311 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: with potential for wide receiver two. So for me to 312 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: say that I still really like Tate. 313 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: All right, Jake, give me another name of a guy 314 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: you think it's gonna make a more of an immediate 315 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: impact in twenty twenty six that got drafted at the 316 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. 317 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: So this one was interesting because this was the one 318 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: where I wasn't the biggest fan of Antonio Williams heading 319 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: into the draft, mostly because I thought he was only 320 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: a slot receiver and I thought that's where he would 321 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: get stuck in the NFL as being the third option 322 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: on a three wide. But he's going to the Commanders 323 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: and we're talking about Terry McLaurin and okay, we're trying 324 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: to the resurrection of the Traylan Burke's career, Luke McCaffrey, 325 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: and like you could just go down the list, it 326 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: is Antonio Williams's job for the taking to be the 327 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: number two with the Commanders, and you talk about the 328 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: skill set match of what you want with what Terry 329 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: does and what Antonio does in this offense with jayde 330 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: and Daniels, And I think for somebody that I didn't 331 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: have very highly and also didn't have that first round 332 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: draft capital that everybody's paying attention to. Of the other 333 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: wide receivers that went on Day two, he fell into 334 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: one of the best potential landing spots and he doesn't 335 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: have to be a pure outside wide receiver to see 336 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: like we were seeing a lot of this as we 337 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: know with this draft. Holy out the blocking tight ends. 338 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: Holy crap, the tight ends. They're gonna be running two, 339 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: two and three. I tweeted this out too, fits. I'm 340 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: not sure if you saw it, but we just hit 341 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: a record in twenty twenty four of teams running two 342 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: and three tight end sets percentage wise, and then it 343 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: got broken last year and we're approaching thirty percent. So 344 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: we just saw this draft and it tells you where 345 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: they're going. Well, the interesting thing is a lot of 346 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: times you might see those two tight ends and your 347 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: secondary weapon for wide receiver actually being kind of a 348 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: slot option with Tony and Williams. And I think that's 349 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: what you're seeing with the Commanders. So I think he 350 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: could walk into one hundred targets, not one hundred and 351 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: twenty thirty forty, but at least one hundred and one 352 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: hundred coming from Jayden Daniels on this team as a 353 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: rookie wide receiver. 354 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Four. 355 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: But somebody that I didn't think would be on my 356 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: redraft radar and I didn't think would be inside my 357 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: top twenty for Dynasty. 358 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Pat, we did so many draft 359 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: shows together, but I don't remember you and I having 360 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: one single conversation about Antonio Williams. And you know, this 361 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: is a guy you know, went to big time school. 362 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Here he's on the clumpson player double digit touchdowns in 363 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: a single season, the first one since t Higgins by 364 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: the way, to a guy who had a pretty good 365 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: career in the NFL. Also, so he's not the number 366 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: one on his team though, Joe, Yeah, you know that's true. 367 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: He's no good Jake, You're one hundred percent right. So, FITZI, 368 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: what do you think about Antonio Williams here? Because this 369 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: is another one that kind of seems like we you know, 370 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: we respect the talent, we like the talent, but the 371 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: landing spot here in particular seems to be very intriguing 372 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: because there's opportunity that presents itself. 373 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: One of the best route runners in the class. Early 374 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: breakouts in college usually bode well for NFL success, and 375 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: he had fifty six catches for Clemson, a football factory 376 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: at as an eighteen year old freshman. And I think 377 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: we'll never know whether the Commanders would have taken Carnell 378 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: Tate if the Titans hadn't taken him in him at 379 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 5: number four, only a small handful of people on Earth 380 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: are ever going to hold that secret. But the fact 381 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: is that after the Commanders took Sonny Styles at number seven, 382 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: they had one more pick over the next three rounds, 383 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: and this, being a weaker draft, Day three was not 384 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 5: exactly littered with gems to be mine. So one pick 385 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: in three rounds and they spent it on Antonio Williams. 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that speaks volumes about how much 387 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: they value this guy and how important he's going to 388 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: be to their offense. 389 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: All right, another guy's going to be probably very important 390 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: to his offense is Jordan Tyson, a guy who is 391 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: maligned in the process, let's just put it that way. 392 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the most pleasant way of putting it, because 393 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: of injuries and problems that he's had, But Jordan Tyson 394 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: still went with big time draft capital. Jordan Tyson is 395 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: now going to be playing for the New Orleans Saints, 396 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: and Jordan Tyson certainly behind Chris o'lave, who, again, we 397 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: don't know how much longer o'lave will be a Saint for, 398 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: so there's a path here for Tyson to kind of 399 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: make an impact in twenty twenty six, and then maybe 400 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: if things really go well for Tyson, he stays healthy 401 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: and he looks great, that maybe they kind of hand 402 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: the reins of the number one job over to him. 403 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: From a dinaisty perspective, you can make that argument with 404 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck playing well down the stretch. Hey, maybe Jordan 405 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Tyson's fantasy value pat is actually very high, maybe higher 406 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: than we realize. 407 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we fantasy managers love nothing more than a 408 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 5: skinny target tree, and the Saints target tree does not 409 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: have a lot of branches. It's Chris Olave, Jordan Tyson, 410 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 5: Jwan Johnson. That's about it. Don't listen to debro if 411 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 5: he tries to tell you Oscar delp is going to 412 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: get one hundred targets in his rookie. 413 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: Year, he will. That guy will, Yeah. 414 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 5: Or Bryce Lance Deebro is also a big Bryce Lance guy, 415 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: and they did take Lance. But he's coming out of 416 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 5: an FCS school, so it's probably going to be a 417 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 5: pretty steep learning curve for him in year one, and 418 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: he profiles as more of like a designated deep ball 419 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 5: guy than a high volume target. I know, Okay, so 420 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: then you've got a Lave is something of an injury 421 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: risk with that worrisome concussion history. If he were to 422 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 5: miss any games, Tyson would probably be a target magnet 423 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: in any games the Lave had to sit out, and 424 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: Tyler shuck a pretty aggressive downfield thrower. He averaged eight 425 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: point three are yards per attempt last year, which was 426 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: more than Dak Prescott or Joe Burrow. And obviously the 427 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 5: fact that the Saints took Jordan Tyson eighth overall speaks 428 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 5: to the confidence the organization has in this player, so 429 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: no doubt they envision a pretty prominent role for him now. 430 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: As Jake Tez, we will get to Bryce Lance later on. 431 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some late round sleepers and some 432 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: deep league stashes on the show today. 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So fifty, why don't you kick us off here? 474 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: You're the Dynasty man about town on the channel all 475 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: the time, talking all the dynasty, So walk me through 476 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: one of these first wide receivers are tight ends potentially 477 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: that you have your eye on. 478 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 5: So I'm not the biggest Chris Pell fan in the world. 479 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: Really kind of raw's a route runner, like, that's the 480 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: biggest knock on him, and he tours ACL in November, 481 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 5: so if he can't participate in training camp, it's going 482 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 5: to be hard for him to have any sort of 483 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 5: fantasy relevant contribution as a rookie, mainly because the biggest 484 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 5: knock on him is that he's raw as a route runner. 485 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: But Bell six to two hundred and twenty two pounds 486 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: runs well for a bigger guy and really a load 487 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 5: for one hundred and ninety pound two hundred pound defensive 488 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: backs to try to bring down after the catch, So 489 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 5: I think he could eventually become a high volume possession receiver. 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 5: Miami is such a good place for receiver to land 491 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: this year. The Dolphins had the thinnest wide receiver core 492 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: in the league before the draft, and there's target opportunity 493 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 5: galore in Miami. I know the Dolphins drafted other receivers 494 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: Caleb Douglas, who they actually took before Bell, both third rounders. 495 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: Douglas top half of the third round, Bell more towards 496 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: the end. But I don't think anyone that really expected 497 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 5: Douglas to be drafted that early. Profiles is more of 498 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 5: a deep ball guy, sort of a lid lifter. You 499 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: need that on your offense. But I think Chris Bell 500 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: will be the higher volume receiver. And Dolphins also got 501 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: Kevin Coleman. He's just pure slot guy they got in 502 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 5: the fifth round. It's going to take patience with Bell 503 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: because he is coming off the injury and isn't a 504 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: finished product yet, but I don't think it would take 505 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: much for him to turn into the Dolphins number one receiver. 506 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: Fitzi, you said it perfectly every feeling that I have 507 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: about Bell too. It's like, well, I like him, but 508 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't love him, and all the stuff that you 509 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: talked about, the route running, all the stuff you then 510 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: talked about on the flip side, which is the opportunity 511 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: that's there here for him in Miami to be the guy. 512 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: So if he puts in the work, if he shows 513 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: up ready to go, the health is good, and he 514 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: balls out like all of a sudden, Miami looks and says, Okay, 515 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: we've got a number one wide receiver on our hands. 516 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: We can look elsewhere in next year draft, because make 517 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: no mistake about it, Miami is a work in progress. 518 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: It's not a one year fix over there. It's gonna 519 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: be a three to five year fixed. Whether this regime 520 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: will see that three to five years, that's another story. 521 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: Jake Seally, give me another long term guy that you've 522 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: got your eyes on in this draft well real quick. 523 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: Just similar to like fits jiming and on Lemon earlier, 524 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: and for good reason, I wanted to for good reason 525 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 4: chiming on Chris Bell is you know, I kind of 526 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: made the joke that similar to Mark Andrews and similar 527 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: to Tucker Craft, and I know those were tight ends, 528 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 4: but the team took the better receiver later after they 529 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: already took one that they basically took the better player 530 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: with Chris Bell. And there's Brandon Marshall potential, But everything 531 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: that fits said where especially at the routes the downside 532 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: as he turns into Xavier lagain, and I think that's 533 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: the concern. So I think if we get a report 534 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: that he might be out there as early as September 535 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 4: and he's really progressing well, I wouldn't be surprised if 536 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: he's a wide receiver four as a rookie and the 537 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 4: best option because this team is such a void for options, 538 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: because I almost put Chris Bell earlier, but I saw 539 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: that Fitz already had him here, So I thought this 540 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 4: was interesting and I really like the landing spot potential. 541 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 4: It obviously comes down to health mine. I like the 542 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: landing spot for the future, and I really liked the player. 543 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: There was a lot of buzz that started to build up. 544 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: We saw two three weeks beforehand where a lot of 545 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: people were saying, oh, this is the underrated guy. N 546 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: if you pay attention to a small school, this is 547 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: the one, and as ted Hurst, but as Fitz knows, 548 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: and I forget if it was you, Joe or somebody 549 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 4: else hosting with Fitz and I, it might have been Bogs. 550 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: But I compared him to two players, Alec Pierce and 551 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. Well, what did Alec Pierce and Michael Wilson 552 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: take to have happened? 553 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: Three years? 554 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: They broke out in three years in the third season, 555 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 4: ted Hurst obviously going to the Buccaneers. He's screwed as 556 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: of right now. Let's make that clear, like he's not 557 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: going to do anything as a rookie unless they have 558 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: multiple injuries, which they've had before. But as of right now, 559 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: I mean, McMillan just had I had a late season 560 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: game where he was the best option once again for 561 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: the Buccaneers. And I'm not saying he's going to be, 562 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: but it's very hard to going to get past Ibuka, 563 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: Godwin and McMillan. But if we're talking about three years 564 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: down the road, Godwin's probably done at that point, and 565 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: if he's Hurst is fulfilling his talent level, he could 566 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: slip past McMillan. And now you're talking about Ibuka and 567 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 4: Hurst as the one and two in twenty twenty eight, 568 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: maybe twenty twenty nine. 569 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: So good points there. Certainly with Hurts a Hurst excuse me, Hurst, Hurst, 570 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: we were talking about it on Hurts earlier. The good 571 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: things that are on the same team though, be really 572 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: confusing for me. All Right, So Pat, let's go back 573 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: to you, Hurt. Yeah, I mean, if I'm struggling with it, 574 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody else will. All Right, let's get to 575 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: another one of the names on Pat's list, Pat, who 576 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: do you have? 577 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: Max Claire tight End from Ohio State. I've got an 578 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 5: advanced scouting report from Ryan Wormley that suggested Jake Seely 579 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: might have different feelings about this, so I might need 580 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: to throw it to Jake for a rebuttal after this show. 581 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: But all right, so I know everyone hates the landing 582 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: spot for Max Claire. The Rams have four other tight ends. 583 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 5: They all contributed last year, but collectively, the RAMS tight 584 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: end production was pretty impressive in twenty twenty five. Rams 585 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 5: tight ends combined for one hundred and fifty targets, one 586 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: hundred and three catches, eleven hundred and twenty eight yards, 587 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 5: and seventeen touchdowns last year. Now it was chopped up 588 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: multiple ways. Colby Parkinson, Tyler Higbee, Terrence Ferguson, Davis Allen. 589 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: That is a problem, and now you've got a fifth 590 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: man in and look, Parkinson and Allen only have one 591 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 5: year left on their contracts Higbee has two years left 592 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: in his deal, but he's thirty three. So yes, Claire 593 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 5: does run into a tight end logjam this year, but 594 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: that logjam starts to break up in twenty twenty seven. 595 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 5: The Rams spent a second round pick on him, so 596 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: obviously they value him. The Rams have kind of been 597 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: at the forefront of this movement towards two and three 598 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: tight ends Claire got overshadowed by Jeremiah Smith and Carnel 599 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: Tate at Ohio State last year. Yes, but when he 600 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 5: was at Purdue in twenty twenty four, he counted for 601 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: thirty one percent of the boiler Makers receiving yardage. There 602 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: were only about twenty two hundred passing yards to go around, 603 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 5: but like Claire was kind of dominating production for them. 604 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 5: And hey, draft capital second round pick after spending a 605 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: first round pick on a guy who's not going to 606 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: contribute anything at all his first season. Ideally if you're 607 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: the Rams, Ty Simpson. So the Rams have some sort 608 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: of plan for Max Claire and this is a team 609 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 5: that leverages its tight ends as pass catchers. 610 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: All right, Jake, you have different plans when it comes 611 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: to Max Claire here, you want to share those plans. 612 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: It's just I'm out, mostly because I'm I'm not. The 613 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: Rams are just annoying. It's just they're twelve and thirteenth 614 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: the highest to bring up that number I was talking 615 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: about earlier. So I saw somebody reference that week ten 616 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: on I think it was Richrie of our friend of 617 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: our show. I know that, like I can say that 618 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 4: for us everybody here. He was talking about that Week 619 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: ten on for the Bears is that they ran the 620 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: two and three tight ends set up like it was 621 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: up close to like thirty three thirty four percent or 622 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: something like that. By the way, the Rams were doing 623 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 4: that for the season, and then from the second half 624 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: of the season it was over forty almost forty five 625 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 4: percent of the time two and three tight ends. And 626 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: that's really what it comes down to, Fits, is that 627 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: you know this, we did the pre draft show, there's 628 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: twofold Here is why I'm concerned about Max Claire's That's 629 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 4: one of them is that the Rams are always going 630 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: to be using two and three tight ends. And we 631 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: go back to Oj Howard and Cameron Braid right now 632 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: with Kincaid and Knox and all these teams using two 633 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: tight ends, it's just so hard to get one that 634 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: we can trust in fantasy to produce consistently. Will one 635 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: of them pop? Yeah, it's just probably going to be 636 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 4: seven to eight out of the ten games, and it's 637 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: going to be this trying to predict when it's going 638 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: to happen. But the second part of it is, I say, 639 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: you agreed with me on this, is are they drafting 640 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: him to be all around overweight blocking tight end from 641 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: OSU or are they drafting him to be perdue matchup problem? 642 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: And that's what I go back to, is that if 643 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: they're drafting him as part of their two to three 644 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: tight end makeup is there we're probably going to ask 645 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: them to block. And I don't like Claire's ability to 646 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: separate from Ohio State. 647 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: Because he was too big for what he can do. 648 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: So if you told me today, Fitz, if you said, Jake, 649 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm coming from the future three years out, they slimmed 650 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: him back down. 651 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: They're making him a matchup problem. Cool, I'll get on board. 652 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm just worried that the RAMS drafted him to be 653 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: the Ohio State version and not the Purdue version. So 654 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: that's that's where my all my hesitancies plural come on, 655 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: Max Claire. 656 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: No, it's it's I think those are fair hesitancies now 657 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: that I could say, but I couldn't say Hurston hurts before. 658 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: All right, did you hurts? 659 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: I can't even say. 660 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: No, no, but I'd like to hear you try a 661 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: second time. All right, Ceely, let's get to another one 662 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: of your names on the list for a guy for 663 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: the Dynasties. More of a long term investment dude. 664 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one similar to the Caleb Douglas. I 665 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: was like huh with this when the Bears took Xavi 666 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: and Thomas, mostly because I'm like, yeah, like okay, why. 667 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: Like what are we doing here? 668 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: But then I forget who So maybe Fitz or you 669 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: saw it in credit to where credit is due, and 670 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: I saw somebody tweet out I say, I wonder if 671 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: and this is the same thought I was having, And 672 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: I'm glad that somebody else said it because it made 673 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: me feel better about it. I wonder if Zamy and 674 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: Thomas was drafted more to be a running back, because 675 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: that's the thing is that Thomas is very dangerous with 676 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: the ball. He ran out of the backfield as a 677 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver. And if you look at Romo Dunes and 678 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: Luther Burden, well, he replicates a lot of what Burden 679 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: can do, but nowhere near as well as what Burdon 680 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: can do. And if you're looking at this team, and 681 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: what we saw in the NFL, basically starting in a 682 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: round three for this draft was I'm the smartest dude 683 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: in the room. I'm taking this player. 684 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: Like the entire NFL is like the Jacksonville Jaguars. 685 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: Everybody, Oh my gosh, like this entire draft was filled, 686 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: Like I'm going to take my guy and prove everybody 687 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: else wrong. And I'm joking when I say, but like 688 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, I feel like just took his guy. I 689 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: feel like he took his guy that like maybe is 690 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: the DeAndre Swift replacement alongside a non guy come next year, 691 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: and that he's going to use him out of the 692 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: backfield and convert him to running back, similar to what 693 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: we've seen with like Antonio Gibson and other players like that. 694 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: So maybe, And that's the only reason I bring him up. 695 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: It's not like I'm like, go get Xavier on Thomas, 696 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: but I'm just like I'm wondering if and then if 697 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: he does get converted to running back, we overlook the 698 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: value of because I don't think it is actually a 699 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver. 700 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: Well it's it's funny because Ben Johnson is actually the 701 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: one guy where you say, Okay, this is a guy 702 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: who's a Swiss Army knife kind of offensive player, Like 703 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I want the Swiss Army knife guy and the Ben 704 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Johnson offense right because it's so clever and the way 705 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: they use different guys in different ways, and the Jets 706 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: sweeps and I mean there's highlight rails of Xavi and 707 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Thomas throwing footballs, you know what I mean. Like, I mean, 708 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: it's us all over the place. So I think if 709 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: there is a guy who has great athletics, maybe some 710 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: good football player, well I don't think it can be 711 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: Tasom Hill, but I mean switching him completely to running back, 712 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's just more of a Swiss 713 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Army knife weapon guy that you just have to account 714 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: for in the field, and that might be enough. I 715 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you have any takes on Thomas here 716 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: too and the landing spot, but I don't know if 717 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: he's got the burst to play running back necessarily through 718 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: the whole, But certainly I think a guy that would 719 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: be a weapon catching the football on the backfield. And 720 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: if manan guy is still there too, a guy you know, 721 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: manan guy's gonna have early down work, goal line, the 722 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: bruising stuff, the stuff you need in Chicago it's zero 723 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: degrees outside, that kind of stuff. And then Thomas maybe 724 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: another guy who was, like to Jake's point, maybe more 725 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: of a DeAndre Swift role in this offense. Potentially someday. 726 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 5: If I had to guess, I would bet that Ryan 727 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: Poles wanted to come out of this draft with a 728 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 5: kick return, or even if it was you know, Cadenwegian 729 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: type guy or whatever. But Ben Johnson identified Xavian Thomas 730 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 5: as a guy who could like we know how Ben 731 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: Johnson is the mad scientist of the NFL, Like he 732 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: loves these gadget plays. He probably said, like I would 733 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: love to be able to put this guy in the 734 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: field for four or five plays a game, and in 735 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: addition to kick returns, like make defenses think about something 736 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: when this guy is in the game, or get the 737 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: ball in his hands and see what he can do. 738 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: But Jake, Jake's premise of this guy potentially shifting and 739 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: running back really interesting. And it's also not the deepest 740 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: receiver room in the league either, so maybe he does 741 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: have some sort of fringy why receiver upside on this team. 742 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, So these are good names here that we've 743 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: gone through on this sheet here today. I want to 744 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: get to you more of them as well. So we 745 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: talked about hers, we talked about Thomas Claire Bell, right, 746 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: So lots of good guys here in terms of the 747 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: long term investments. But let's talk about some deep stashes, 748 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: maybe some guys that have lottery ticket kind of upside. 749 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: And remember, if you've got your drafts coming up, make 750 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: sure you use the draft simulator right now over Fantasy 751 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Pros our MVP and our Hall of Fame subscribers too. 752 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: If you have those subscriptions, even if you don't, go 753 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: get them, because you can test the trade scenarios by 754 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: mocking all the actual trade draft picks in your rookie 755 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: draft because you know all those dynasty leagues are like that, 756 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: I traded a second round pick four years ago for 757 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: this and now it's coming to fruition all that stuff. 758 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: It's there for you right now. 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All right, So let's 768 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: go to the next one here, late round sleepers, some 769 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: deep league stashes. Pat, why don't you kick us off 770 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: with the first guy that you have already kind of 771 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: circled on your list. 772 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, circled as you know, someone i'd be willing to 773 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: spend a fifth round rookie pick on. And for me, 774 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 5: one is Riley Noakowski, tight end for the National champion 775 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 5: Indiana Hoosiers last season, thirty two catches for three hundred 776 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 5: and eighty seven yards. Not very impressive numbers on the surface, 777 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 5: but he was on a team with Omar Cooper, Elijah 778 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 5: Surat and a guy we're going to be talking about 779 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 5: in rookie drafts a year from now, Charlie Becker, and 780 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 5: as Jake Seely of the Athletic is probably aware, NFL 781 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: draft analyst Daan Brugler of the Athletic loves Riley Nowakowski. 782 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 5: Like Before the draft, Brugler talked about Noakowski is one 783 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 5: of his favorite Day three prospects. After the draft, Brugler 784 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: talked about Noalkowski is one of his favorite Day three picks. 785 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 5: Noahkowski is just a Swiss Army knife, lines up all 786 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 5: over the place, in line, in the slot, in the backfield. 787 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 5: It's only six to two, so a little short for 788 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 5: a tight end, but two hundred and fifty pounds, and 789 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: he is a really good blocker, more of an h 790 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: back probably, so the blocking though, it's going to get 791 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 5: Nowakowski in the field. And he's a pretty good pass 792 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 5: catcher too. Over his last two college seasons, Nowakowski had 793 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 5: an eighty nine point six percent catch rate, zero drops. 794 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 5: And the Steelers love their tight ends. They've got Pat 795 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: Fryermuth who's good but not great. They've got Darnell Washington 796 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 5: who's a pretty remarkable physical specimen, but not really much 797 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 5: of a pass catcher. He said, fifty seven catches in 798 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 5: fifty career games. And John new Smith is gone now, 799 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 5: so I think Riley Nowakowski is going to play a 800 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: role in the Steelers offense right away. 801 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: And Pat, I love this section of the show too, 802 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: because you know, taking shots on guys late and some 803 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: years you have, like, you know, a couple fourth round 804 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: picks or you have, you know, a couple of fifth 805 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: round picks in your dynasty mock drafts or drafts I 806 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: should say not MOCKX, but you have the opportunity to 807 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: land on some players. I remember a couple of years ago, 808 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: Khalils Shakiir I got in the fifth round of one 809 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: of those drafts, and I just liked the player. I 810 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: was like, well, he's there with Josh Allen, let's just 811 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: take a shot and see what happens. And I think 812 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: when you have some good process and everybody kind of 813 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: just starts randomly thrown out darts at people, this is 814 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: the kind of show, This is the kind of segment. 815 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: I think it really helped change that for you. So 816 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: pay attention to these names because if you get some 817 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: of these right, it's gonna be a difference maker and 818 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: you go from a guy that you're gonna cut next 819 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: year to a guy that's gonna be starting for you 820 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: next year in your dynasty league potentially, Jake, give me 821 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 1: a name that has that potential going forward in twenty 822 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: twenty six. 823 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, both my picks are like late thirds, early fourths, 824 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: and I've whispered before we're going to talk about him. 825 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: This is the one Bryce lance And part. 826 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 4: Of it is because of what Fitz said is that 827 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 4: Chris a Lobby is a free agent, you know, and 828 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 4: you look at Lance and people are like, oh, he's older. 829 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: He turns twenty four in August. Mind you like, so 830 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 4: he's like older by terms of being rookies. But I 831 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 4: say that to say is like they might be considering 832 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 4: a very short leash of does he hit or not, 833 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 4: Like he's coming from a small school. He's your prototypical 834 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: X receiver to play outside and makes a really nice 835 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: fit with Jordan Tyson potentially, and if he hits, and 836 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: if they see enough to say, hey, Chris Olavey, we'll 837 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 4: let you walk and address different issues we have. This 838 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 4: team is finally out of cap hell, but they're still 839 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: not sitting pretty to be like, we're gonna throw the 840 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 4: most money anybody could possibly find a Chris alave They 841 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: would have to tweak it a little bit early on. 842 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: But all that being said is I'm saying that to say, 843 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: like they might see enough in Lance to say we'll 844 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 4: let a lave walk and we'll have a new Lance 845 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 4: Tyson due at the same time. We might find out 846 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 4: a year or two from now quickly they're like, hey, 847 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 4: Lance just isn't hitting in the NFL. 848 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: He wouldn't be the first not to do it. 849 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 4: I see some Rashishi hed I've said that before on 850 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: this show, and I think that profile is nicely. The 851 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 4: Saints don't obviously have the same system from before with 852 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: the Kubiak, but there's a lot of the overlap of 853 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: getting somebody opened deep over the middle to outside of 854 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: the field that is still there with this offense. 855 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: So if Lance. 856 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't Jake, wasn't there a certain coordinator on a team 857 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: that ended up getting Rashid Shahead last year and winning 858 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Just saying. 859 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was just like that, there's pieces of 860 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: that still here. So that's what the point being is 861 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 4: that I think he could be. I think he'd be 862 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: a wide receiver for reliant on the big play, but 863 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 4: I think that you could see some development with Lance 864 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 4: with the Saints. 865 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you also see some Christian Watson Jake since 866 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 5: he's another big fast. 867 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: Show without Christian Watson there? 868 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I will say this. I actually think 869 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: Christian Watson has developed a little bit more in the 870 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: routes than Lance has so far. But like that, I 871 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 4: guess that would be peak if you said Christian Watson. 872 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: I think that's the peak best case scenario agreed. 873 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the whole thing though. Kilmore has done 874 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: a nice job down there in New Orleans, and I 875 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: think when you see smart offensive mind say oh yeah, 876 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: this this player works in this fashion, and this works 877 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: for us, and we can put it into another spot. 878 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: Like I don't think they didn't like what you heat 879 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: offered in New Orleans. Potentially, it's just a matter of 880 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: finding maybe a cheaper version or a way to go 881 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: forward with it. Give me another name, Pat that you 882 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: think could be a deeper guy here that everybody should 883 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: be paying attention to. Oh Man. 884 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 5: Admittedly, this is a real long shot. Colby Young Colby 885 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 5: Young of the Bengals. The Bengals did spend a fourth 886 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 5: round pick on this guy. Colby Young is a six', 887 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 5: five two hundred and eighteen pound receiver with four point 888 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: four to nine. Speed started at a junior, college transferred To, 889 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 5: miami then wound up At georgia multi year college, starter 890 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 5: but never really. Popped as far as the, numbers size and, speed, 891 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 5: though they make him a really Intriguing. Bets Dane, brugler 892 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 5: the Aforementioned Dan burglar Of The, athletic Said Colby young 893 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 5: compares stylistically To Courtland, sutton which is kind of, appealing 894 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 5: and obviously it's going to be hard for receiver to 895 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 5: make his mark In cincinnati right away Behind Jamar chas 896 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 5: and T. Higgins The bengals bet On Jermaine burton as 897 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 5: a developmental prospect a couple of years. Ago it didn't work, 898 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 5: out But Colby young this latest developmental receiver, prospect Like brugler, 899 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: says he's a hard worker and a student the, game 900 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 5: and he also said That Colby jung has deceptive, speed good, 901 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 5: hands really hard to bring down after the. CATCH i 902 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 5: don't think it's a bad way to spend the final 903 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: pick of a rookie. 904 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: Draft And Jermaine burton wasn't a good, worker had a 905 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: lot of other, issues, right you, Know so let's not 906 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: go down that path Here cincinnati a second. Time so 907 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: it's good that they got somebody who might be the 908 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: inverse in terms of personality. There and that's the only 909 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: way you are going to crack a unit like that 910 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: eventually over. Time and we've seen injuries To tea, gives 911 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: we've seen injuries To chase to The lots of opportunity 912 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: can present. Itself but as you, Said, pat if it 913 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work, out you, cut you move. On but interesting 914 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: talent nonethe. Last all, Right, jake give us one more, 915 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: name deep league stash kind of guy that you have 916 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of in your back. 917 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 4: Pocket, yeah this ONE i thought was interesting Because i'm 918 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 4: not CALLING i just said this on the other show With. 919 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 4: Worm i'm not Calling Trey harris. Dead but we do 920 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: have a new offensive. Coordinator and what is this offensive? 921 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 4: Cordinator mike McDaniel like to, do throw people open over 922 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: the middle of the field and let you do things 923 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 4: after the bowl where if there's one of the few 924 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 4: wide receivers late in the draft that can do, That 925 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 4: Brettan thompson essentially is like a Tank, dell like get 926 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: the ball in his hands and good, luck very explosive. 927 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: After the, catch very. 928 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 4: Dangerous as you, say the downside is that he turns 929 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: INTO isaa mackenzie and we're talking about, oh like three 930 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 4: wide receivers got hurt and he gets to play as 931 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 4: the three this week or he's mostly in the return. 932 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 4: Game BUT i say this to, say like he doesn't 933 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 4: have the draft capital Of Trey. Harris that's Why Trey 934 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 4: harris is not. Dead But Trey harris is also as 935 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 4: of right now Behind Quinton johnston Because Quentin johnson finally 936 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 4: did some. Stuff i'm not Saying Quinton johnston can fall back, 937 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 4: off but it really comes down To mike, McDaniel you, 938 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: know being the offensive coordinator being with this. Team i'm 939 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 4: sure he had some input on Taking Brennan thompson and 940 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 4: If harris can't, IMPROVE i know it's only year, two 941 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 4: but if he doesn't show any, Improvement johnson does fall 942 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: off free agent. EVENTUALLY i think That, thomas for the 943 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: fit and, style he would still for us only probably 944 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 4: best case scenario be a wide receiver for just because 945 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 4: of his skill set and. Fantasy but if he happens 946 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 4: to be the guy that's kind of ends up being 947 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 4: The lad McCaughey Brennan Thompson Rode gadson trio because of 948 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 4: what we like to see With mike. McDaniel i think 949 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: that's Why i'm taking a flyer on him on the fourth, 950 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 4: round just BECAUSE i see a path in two years 951 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: where all of a, sudden we're talking About Brennan. Thompson, 952 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: wow this one, hit and all of a sudden it 953 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 4: go from a nothing value to having somebody that can 954 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 4: plug in on buys and stuff like. 955 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: That, Yeah thompson certainly a guy very shifty in, space 956 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: certainly has opportunity. There mike McDaniel, OFFENSE i can't wait 957 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: to see what that offense looks like, too With Amari, 958 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: hampton With Justin. HERBERT i, mean this is the first 959 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: time we're Giving mike McDaniel a real life quarterback here 960 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: to really work. With SO i mean, it, look you, 961 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: know it's one thing to be a boy. Genius Even 962 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: sean MCVAGH i think realized this over, time, RIGHT i 963 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: Got i'm a, genius, Right but, man my job's a 964 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: little easier In Matthew stafford's, quarterback isn't. It you, know 965 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: like sometimes these guys are these great offensive. Minds it's 966 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: just SURE i can take a you, know A brock, 967 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: party AND i can make A brock party a QUARTERBACK 968 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: i can go to The Super bowl. With wouldn't you 969 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: rather have A matthew Staff wouldn't you rather have A Justin? 970 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: HERBERT i think the answered yes to those. Questions but 971 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: certainly some great names here from the. 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