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Speaker 1: We got a couple of guests this week. First off,

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Speaker 1: we've got Mark Anthony Arena, the computer exercist. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: explain why old school virus scans don't cut it anymore

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Speaker 1: All right, I thought it'd be kind of fun this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi, Rich, I really enjoy your show.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely rich. How's it going man?

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Speaker 1: Everything is good. So I heard your story. Tell me,

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Speaker 8: he said, well, so there's been some fraud detected on

437
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Speaker 8: your account. Our system has flagged these as fraud. But

438
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Speaker 8: you're gonna need to go to the nearest Wells Fargo

439
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Speaker 8: branch and take out all your cash because they're trying

440
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Speaker 8: to get into you accoun.

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Speaker 6: Out right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, And what did you say to that?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I was just I had just woken up.

444
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Speaker 8: It was the first thing I had seen. I was

445
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Speaker 8: kind of just in a panic, like I needed to,

446
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Speaker 8: you know, take action and do what I needed to

447
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Speaker 8: do protect my money.

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Speaker 7: At that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, so I you know, got.

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Speaker 8: My stuff, and he mentioned during the call, he said,

451
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Speaker 8: and I should have noticed this as a little bit

452
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Speaker 8: of a special suspicious but he said, I'm going to

453
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Speaker 8: be on the phone through the entire time until we

454
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Speaker 8: get your money out. And so at the time I thought, maybe,

455
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Speaker 8: you know, he's he's really trying to work with me

456
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Speaker 8: and make sure my money's protected. But that was definitely

457
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Speaker 8: a little bit suspicious that he wanted to make sure

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Speaker 8: that he was with me through the whole call.

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Speaker 1: And so how did you go from that to starting

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Speaker 1: to take out money? And did you take out cash?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So he told me that what I needed to do

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Speaker 8: was go to the nearest Wells Fargo bank, go up

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Speaker 8: to the teller, and take out all the.

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Speaker 7: Cash from my account.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you do that.

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Speaker 8: So I, yeah, immediately grabbed my keys, drove to the

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Speaker 8: new branch of my bank, walked into the bank, walked

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Speaker 8: up to the teller, told him to just take out

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Speaker 8: all my cash. He told me to do it. I said,

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Speaker 8: for personal reasons. They're not allowed to ask you. He

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Speaker 8: told me to just tell him personal reasons.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they didn't. They didn't question you

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Speaker 1: pulling out all this money.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so one thing.

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Speaker 8: When I went back to the bank later to talk

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Speaker 8: to them, the teller kind of realized, like, oh, I

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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry I didn't I didn't think of anything.

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Speaker 7: It was kind of a young kid. He was a

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Speaker 7: little bit younger than me, so yeah, I was. He

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Speaker 7: was definitely a little taken back by it.

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Speaker 3: But put out the money. You've got five thousand bucks

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Speaker 3: in your hand. Now cash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cash, So he says, okay, guys on the phone

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Speaker 1: the whole time, still.

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Speaker 7: Whole time, still on the phone, dedicated.

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Speaker 3: One time you want to drop a signal, and you don't.

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Speaker 3: I at that time I dropped.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, forty five minute phone call, just walking me through this.

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Speaker 8: That's why I just was in such disbelief that this

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Speaker 8: man was, you know, taking all this time to get

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Speaker 8: all this money from me. But anyway, after I got

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Speaker 8: had got all my cash out, I went back out

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Speaker 8: to my car and I said, okay, I have all.

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Speaker 3: My cash out.

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Speaker 8: He then told me, so, now what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 8: is get your new accounts started right here. I can

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Speaker 8: get it set up online. Your new debit card will

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Speaker 8: be in the mail. It'll be there next day, overnight shipping.

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Speaker 8: You know, the whole whole spiel they usually give you.

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Speaker 8: And they said, well, right now, so we can get

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Speaker 8: all this cash off your hand.

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Speaker 7: What I can do for you is I can give

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Speaker 7: you a temporary.

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Speaker 8: Uh, temporary debit card that you can add to your

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Speaker 8: Apple Wallet, which you can use tap to pay at

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Speaker 8: the ATM.

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Speaker 7: Which was the biggest mistake.

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Speaker 8: It sounds it sounds, you know, like the like I

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Speaker 8: want to get all this cash off me right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, ATM's right here.

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Speaker 8: So I added the card to the Apple Wallet function

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Speaker 8: by just entering, and he gave me a you.

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Speaker 7: Know, number, CVC code, date and everything.

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Speaker 8: Use tap to pay at the ATM, and I put

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Speaker 8: all my cash in the ATM and that was it.

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Speaker 3: Could charge up the card somehow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was it was a tap to It

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Speaker 8: was an UH connected to a bank account that he

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Speaker 8: has connection to.

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Speaker 7: And he had me.

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Speaker 8: Add the card to my Apple Wallet and then I

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Speaker 8: tried to use the card later that day and he

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Speaker 8: had canceled it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So basically, you added this virtual card to your

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Speaker 1: Apple Wallet, then you went to an ATM that accepts deposits.

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Speaker 1: You fed the money into the ATM, and somehow that

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Speaker 1: money fed onto that card on your phone. Theoretically, yes, wow.

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Speaker 1: And then and they wiped it all out and that's

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Speaker 1: when they wiped it out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And then and then so that was all my cash

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Speaker 7: that was gone.

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Speaker 8: And then he said, you know, it's gonna take a

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Speaker 8: little bit for your money to show up. It's a

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Speaker 8: lot of money to you know, show up in the account.

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Speaker 8: And I didn't really realize what had happened until later

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Speaker 8: I got home and checked my account just to you know,

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Speaker 8: see if it had hit you, and I saw both

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Speaker 8: of zero's and then I had realized, like, oh.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: And you felt like you got scammed at that point

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Speaker 1: you realized to scam And how did you feel it

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Speaker 1: that moment?

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Speaker 7: I just I just was in shock.

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Speaker 8: I just couldn't believe that that actually happened. Like like

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Speaker 8: you said, you know, you hear about these things all

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Speaker 8: the time, and I think, you know, I'm a I'm

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Speaker 8: a young guy. I'm pretty in tune with everything connected

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Speaker 8: with like technology and everything. I figured that I wouldn't

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Speaker 8: fall for something like that. But they just, like you know,

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Speaker 8: they gain your trust. They know how to get under

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Speaker 8: your skin and to talk to you the right way.

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Speaker 3: What's your advice for folks?

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Speaker 8: My advice for folks would be just don't respond to

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Speaker 8: anything text wise, even even you know, be careful about

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Speaker 8: phone calls too. If you have real concern about something

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Speaker 8: that may be up with your account, call the number

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Speaker 8: on the back of your card, you know, get in

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Speaker 8: contact with your bank using the information the numbers that

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Speaker 8: they have online.

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Speaker 7: Don't don't listen to anyone trying to come at you.

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Speaker 7: Go go to the go to your business or bank.

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Speaker 1: And how are you doing personally? How are you moving

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Speaker 1: forward through this because you haven't recovered any of this money.

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Speaker 7: No, yeah, I haven't recovered any of the money. I've

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Speaker 7: been doing.

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Speaker 8: Okay, uh, you know, luckily at the time that it

571
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Speaker 8: had happened, rent was paid aid, the car that I

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Speaker 8: had at the time was paid everything. You know, it

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Speaker 8: has put a lot of stress on me. You know, mentally,

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Speaker 8: I've been thankfully I'm employed, I have a good job.

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Speaker 8: I'm more working full time. I live with my girlfriend

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Speaker 8: and she's been helping a lot. But it's definitely I've

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Speaker 8: had to cut back on a lot of expenses and

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Speaker 8: I even had to sell my car honestly.

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Speaker 7: Because I just couldn't afford it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thank you for sharing your story. I do

582
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I know you set up a gofund me.

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Speaker 1: I'll link that up on my website. Rich On tech

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Speaker 1: Dot TV. Connor, thank you man. I mean, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, it's just it's it's

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Speaker 1: great for you to share your story so that people

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Speaker 1: can realize that this does happen to real people, regular people,

588
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Speaker 1: everyday people, and it's just one of those things where

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Speaker 1: somehow they got to you and they figured out a

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Speaker 1: way in, and now it's like you're you're left to

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Speaker 1: clean up this mess of this money that you'll probably

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Speaker 1: never get back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like I said, I I right after I

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Speaker 8: figured out it happened, I went back to the bank

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Speaker 8: and sat down with a bank manager and filed a

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Speaker 8: real fraud claim to Wells Fargo and they denied it.

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Speaker 8: Went through the process of appealing it to the executive

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Speaker 8: claims multiple times and both have been denied. The reasoning

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Speaker 8: that they have is that I physically walked into the

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Speaker 8: bank and took out the cash myself.

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Speaker 7: Is they're they're not taking liability.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, well, I do think that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a tough one, and it's it's tough

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Speaker 1: because you initiated that transfer, and I've heard over and

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Speaker 1: over when that happens, it's tough to reclaim.

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Speaker 3: All right, Connor, thanks for sharing your story. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I'll share his gofund me on the website

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot TV. You can read it, read

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Speaker 1: through what happened, and uh, you know, just hopefully never

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Speaker 1: have this happen to you.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you joining me today, Connor.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks so much for having me on rich Good

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Speaker 7: talking to you.

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. All right, coming up, we'll take more

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Speaker 1: affordable smartphone. Welcome back to Kate, Katla, Welcome back to

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Stacy in Rancho Cucamonga. Stacey, you're on.

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Speaker 11: With rich Hi, Rich how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am doing fantastic. How are you.

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Speaker 11: I'm doing okay, just doing some yardwork on this playing

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Speaker 11: Saturday ury.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: It's well if you got some beautiful weather in southern

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Speaker 1: California this weekend, so enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: What can I help you with?

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Speaker 11: So my question is regarding BitLocker. I keep my company

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Speaker 11: filed on a flash drive, which I know I probably

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Speaker 11: shouldn't do, and trying to move away from that. But

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Speaker 11: recently my work forced us to encrypt them using BitLocker

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Speaker 11: if we wanted to continue to use them. So does

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Speaker 11: that mean that my flash drive is going to be

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Speaker 11: encrypted on any computer that I try to use it on.

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Speaker 3: Yes? So have you turned on the encryption for the

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Speaker 3: flash drive?

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Speaker 11: Yes, it's working. Everything's great, but you know I keep

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Speaker 11: work stuff plus person most stuff on it, and you know,

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Speaker 11: just thinking for the future, what if I have to

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Speaker 11: change laptop kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know, once it's activated and you're using the

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Speaker 1: BitLocker to Go, I guess is that the built.

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Speaker 3: In are using Windows or mac Windows? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're using the built in like BitLocker to

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Speaker 1: Go service on Windows okay, yeah, So and you created

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Speaker 1: a password for the for the drive. Yeah okay, So

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Speaker 1: once you have that if you pop that drive into

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Speaker 1: another computer, you're not gonna be able to unlock that

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Speaker 1: drive or open or access it without that password. So

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Speaker 1: that that means the encryption is doing its job. So

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Speaker 1: not only is it you know, it's encrypted, but it's

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Speaker 1: also password protected. That password will well, you know, decode

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Speaker 1: the drive so that the computer can read it.

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Speaker 11: And just to make sure I understand password, is the

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Speaker 11: recovery key?

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Speaker 1: Uh well, the recovery key is hmm, well, I mean basically, no,

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Speaker 1: it has its own password. The recovery key might be

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Speaker 1: a backup key that you can keep once you set

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Speaker 1: that password.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, the recovery key is basically, if you forget the

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Speaker 1: password or there's a problem, you can use that recovery

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Speaker 1: key to access the drive.

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Speaker 3: So that's different than the password. Perfect all right, But

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Speaker 3: I okay, I'm going to link up some help.

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Speaker 1: I've got a little help page on this whole BitLocker

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Speaker 1: thing for flash drives. I've got a nice page that

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Speaker 1: kind of explains it. I'll link that up in the

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Speaker 1: show notes rich on tech dot TV. But yeah, sounds

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Speaker 1: like you've got it figured out as long as you've

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Speaker 1: got that password on there and that encryption level. It's

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Speaker 1: like I said, it's built into Windows and encryption basically.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you have a flash drive, your files

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Speaker 1: are on that flash drive. You copy files to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like one of those little USB thumb drives.

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Speaker 1: You copy files to that. You can pug that into

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Speaker 1: any computer and access those files. Well, if you're doing

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Speaker 1: something that is corporate, you know there might be some

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Speaker 1: sensitive information on those files, and they don't want that

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Speaker 1: flash drive. It ever, just fell out of your bag

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Speaker 1: and was on the ground, someone could pick that up

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Speaker 1: and pop it into their computer and access to files

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Speaker 1: on there. So if your company and they're saying, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, most companies don't even like flash drives in

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Speaker 1: general because they present very big security challenges for the company. Right,

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Speaker 1: they can introduce viruses to the computers, they can have malware,

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Speaker 1: they can again, you can lose your files, they can

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Speaker 1: get into the wrong hands. But by encrypting that flash drive,

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Speaker 1: it secures it to a level that if someone found

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Speaker 1: that drive on the ground, there's not much they'd be

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Speaker 1: able to do with it. Yeah, there's a chance they

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Speaker 1: could break that encryption, but it would take a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking, you know, depending on the kind

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Speaker 1: of computer resources they have, if ever to break that encryption,

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Speaker 1: so that would be pretty tricky for the average person.

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Speaker 3: Let's say.

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Speaker 1: And then if you have that that you know, once

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Speaker 1: they put that into their computer, they won't be able

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Speaker 1: to access it. But you put into your computer, it

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Speaker 1: will be able to access it. And then of course,

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Speaker 1: if you have that password that you set on it,

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Speaker 1: that's your main way of getting access to the data.

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Speaker 1: And then the recovery key is if you forget that password,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to still recover the data on that computer.

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Speaker 1: So good question, Stacey, Thanks for the call. Eighty to

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Speaker 1: eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. So Google has unveiled

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Speaker 1: their answer to the iPhone sixteen E.

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Speaker 3: This is called the Pixel nine A.

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Speaker 1: This is their most budget friendly device, starts at four

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety nine dollars, very you know, sleek phone.

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Speaker 1: It's got a six point three inch display, so it's

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Speaker 1: actually bigger than the previous model.

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Speaker 3: It's also brighter.

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Speaker 1: It also has two cameras, so it's got a forty

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Speaker 1: eight megapixel camera thirteen megapixel ultra wide camera, unlike the

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Speaker 1: iPhone sixteen E that just has one camera on it,

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Speaker 1: so this you do get the ultra wide. It also

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Speaker 1: has the best battery life ever for a pixel. They're

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Speaker 1: saying over thirty hours, which you know, I never really

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Speaker 1: believe that number unless you're not using your phone at all,

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Speaker 1: but you know your your mileage may vary. It also

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Speaker 1: has the AI features built in, so Google of course

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Speaker 1: has Gemini with all their Circle to Search, the editor features,

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Speaker 1: the call assist features, so it's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: nice AI built in, plus seven years of software and

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Speaker 1: security updates, so that is the standard pretty much for

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Speaker 1: a lot of these Android devices from Google and also Samsung.

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Speaker 1: They're offering seven years of updates, So seven years on

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Speaker 1: this thing for five hundred bucks. That's like seventy two

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. It's got better water and dust resistance

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Speaker 1: than before, so IP sixty eight. And yeah, this competes

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Speaker 1: directly with the iPhone sixteen E, but it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars less. The iPhone sixteen E, as you might remember,

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Speaker 1: starts at five ninety nine. This is four nine. But

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is Android. The iPhone is iOS

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Speaker 1: and to some people it's a non starter. They're not

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Speaker 1: getting an Android phone. They want an iPhone, and so

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Speaker 1: I get it. This is why we have choices in

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Speaker 1: our lives. This is why these are probably the two

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Speaker 1: phones I'll be recommending the most over the next year,

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Speaker 1: because they give you a lot at a great value. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's always gonna be the people that want the latest, greatest,

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Speaker 1: best camera, they're a photographer, whatever, But the Pixel nine

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Speaker 1: to A is going to have a lot of these

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Speaker 1: great features. Also, it has a better screen a better

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Speaker 1: refresh rate than the iPhone as well. So the only

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Speaker 1: weird thing about the Pixel is that a I wasn't

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Speaker 1: included in the briefing, which I don't know why they

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Speaker 1: didn't send me one before like they did a lot

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Speaker 1: of other people.

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, Google, do you forget about me? What

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Speaker 3: happened here?

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Speaker 1: So I will be getting one when it launches, But

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Speaker 1: they did delay the launch a little bit. It's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be on pre order in March. Now they're delaying

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Speaker 1: it until April because there's apparently some quality issue on

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Speaker 1: a component, so Google's investigating that. So again, the Pick

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Speaker 1: will ship sometime in April, not available for pre order

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Speaker 1: just yet. But you know these are for people that

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Speaker 1: just want a phone, right, They want a nice phone

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Speaker 1: that just does everything. It's got all the modern features.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got two great choices, the Pixel nine

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Speaker 1: A and the iPhone sixteen E. Both well I haven't

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Speaker 1: tested the Pixel nine A, but typically Pixels, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've got a soft spot in my heart for them.

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Speaker 3: I really do like them, all right.

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Speaker 1: Eight and eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we'll take more of your calls. Plus I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: about this click fix scam that tricks you into installing

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Speaker 1: malware on your PC.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech, rich Tomuro here for

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Speaker 1: another hour hanging out with you, talking technology. Now when

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Speaker 1: I say another hour, I mean we have two hours left,

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Speaker 1: but this is a new hour, so welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. Eight eight eight rich one O one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: talking technology with you. Gadgets, apps, tips, tricks, reviews, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. Scams coming up this hour got a

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Speaker 1: unique guest, Marc Anthony Arena calls himself the computer Exorcist.

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Speaker 1: Kind of has a different take on things when it

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Speaker 1: comes to technology, so he will share his unique sense

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Speaker 1: of point of view.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could you could call it.

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Speaker 1: And later on we've got Brent Brenton Brent Franson, founder

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Speaker 1: of the death clock app. He's going to talk about

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Speaker 1: why they created that to us scare you into getting healthy.

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Speaker 1: I guess to live Longer eight ed eight rich one

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Speaker 1: on one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero. On the website for the show is rich

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Speaker 1: on tech dot TV. There he can send me an email.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about this before we get back

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Speaker 1: to the phones. Here a new click fix scam trick

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Speaker 1: you into installing malware on your computer. Here's how it works.

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00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: You're on your computer, you're surfing, you know, you see

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Speaker 1: those capture things that says, hey, are you a human?

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Speaker 1: Verify it? But it's a trick. It tricks you into

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Speaker 1: running a harmful command on your computer. So it asks

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Speaker 1: you to press Windows plus R, then control V, then

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Speaker 1: enter and this sequence will run malicious code that's hidden

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Speaker 1: on your clipboard.

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Speaker 3: Do not do it.

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Speaker 1: It might install passwords, stealing malware, onto your computer right now.

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Speaker 1: This is really targeting hospitality and healthcare workers using phishing emails,

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Speaker 1: even disguised as hotel booking emails or chrome error pages.

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Speaker 1: Be careful, so there might even be some of these

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Speaker 1: clickfix attacks on legitimate looking websites. So the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: if you see one of these capshaws that asks you

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Speaker 1: to verify that you're human, but it asks you to

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Speaker 1: follow some key press instructions, do not do it.

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Speaker 3: Do not do that.

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Speaker 1: And if you're an organization and you run a bunch

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Speaker 1: of computers at your work, you can disable the Windows

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Speaker 1: plus R run command via the group policy. So if you're,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep people, trying to save people

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Speaker 1: from themselves, that's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Dana.

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Speaker 1: And Tribute Tribute Tribuco Canyon, California.

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Speaker 3: Dana, you're on with Wretch Hi Rich. Enjoy your show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. What's up?

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Speaker 6: So it's kind of a convoluted question, hopefully not. But

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Speaker 6: I have a HomePod, an older one, the kind of

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Speaker 6: the barrel size that for years, really I'd just say

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Speaker 6: to tell Siri play Kfi six forty and I'd listen

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Speaker 6: to your show or whatever, And just in the last

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Speaker 6: couple of weeks, I'll give it that command, It'll play

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Speaker 6: the commercials and then go silent. Oh it and it

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Speaker 6: does the same thing on my iPhone. It'll play the

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Speaker 6: commercials and then it goes silent, never puts the show on.

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Speaker 6: But if I give that same command to I also

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Speaker 6: have an Amazon show. I give that command to Amazon,

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Speaker 6: it plays the commercials and plays the show. So just

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Speaker 6: in the last few weeks, okay, if I on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 6: just won't play on the pod or my iPhone.

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Speaker 3: And how are you calling up the station?

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Speaker 6: Well, historically I'd just say, you know, hey, Siri, play

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Speaker 6: KFI six forty and I would play it on the pod.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what if you add, like, now, what about other

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Speaker 1: stations from other companies? You know, because you can you

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Speaker 1: can ask for a wide variety of stations, you know.

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Speaker 6: I haven't. Well, I actually tried just some random country

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Speaker 6: music station on the iPhone today and it played it

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Speaker 6: did okay, And if I bring up the I Heart

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Speaker 6: app on my iPhone, I can play six forty k

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Speaker 6: if I on the phone and it'll also broadcast to

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Speaker 6: the home.

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Speaker 1: Pod, right right, I mean, that's that's a given. Though,

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Speaker 1: like because it you know, you're going through the app,

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Speaker 1: but the functionality that's built in you're saying is not working.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've got a couple of reports of people

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Speaker 1: saying that these things work, sometimes they don't work. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: not just limited to the HomePod. Sometimes it could be

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Speaker 1: the you know, the Amazons or the Googles out there

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Speaker 1: with the home Pod specifically. Have you tried restarting it

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Speaker 1: and tried any sort of software updates.

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Speaker 6: It's fully updated and I've restarted it a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So the only thing, the only other

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Speaker 1: thing I can think of. I can think of two things.

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Speaker 1: First off, you might try to put at the end

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Speaker 1: of the play the radio station, like on iHeartRadio and

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Speaker 1: see if that helps.

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Speaker 3: Have you tried that?

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00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 6: Play it you mean via that I I'm sorry to

877
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: say that again, Like you would say something like play

878
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: KF I am six forty on iHeartRadio and see if

879
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: that helps.

880
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: And now it sounds like it's working because it's getting

881
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: the commercials. So it's like getting at the beginning of

882
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: the stream. It's just not getting the stream itself.

883
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 6: So right, and at the beginning of the stream, it

884
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 6: says KFI six forty I provided by iHeartRadio. It's it's

885
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 6: it's the intro and the commercials all sound as it

886
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 6: sounded for years.

887
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, And when.

888
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: I did a search, I saw issues about commercials playing

889
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 6: and not and not.

890
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but searches will always you know, the problem with

891
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: all the stuff online is that it doesn't matter because

892
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: there's someone out there that has the same problem. They

893
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: put it online and now everyone gets that search result,

894
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really help you, you know, and they

895
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: give you all these like things to do that don't

896
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: really you know, you go around in circles, so you know,

897
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is I've got one of

898
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: these at home. I will test it and see what happens.

899
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: But I I will tell you that these things sometimes,

900
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, go through on the back end. The station's

901
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: upgrade something or they change something, and there's a lot

902
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: of functionality that depends on it. So maybe there's just

903
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: something that's changed in the past couple weeks. I will

904
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: check it out. I do know that I discovered on

905
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: the Apple Music app that you can search for pretty

906
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: much any radio station and play it through the Apple

907
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: Music app, which I thought was pretty interesting. So if

908
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: you search like KFI. It's on there, you know. Let's

909
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just check as you one hundred New York. Yes, the

910
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: one hundreds on there in different stations that are you

911
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: know not let's see. Yeah, it doesn't even have to

912
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: be an iHeart station. I'm looking at Audacity that's on there.

913
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: So that's another little trick as you can call these

914
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: up through the the Apple Music app as well. But

915
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: it's it's Dana. I'm not sure what's going on there.

916
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, unplug the speaker, leave it unplugged

917
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: for a little bit. It could be something going on

918
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: with your network, if you have some sort of ad

919
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: blocker running, that could be messing with it. But it

920
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: sounds like you haven't really changed anything. So that's the

921
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: true part is nothing on your end has changed. But

922
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: now it seems like something definitely changed there, and that

923
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: is frustrating for sure. I would say in the meantime,

924
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: if you can't get it to work, you can, just

925
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like you said, airplay it through your phone. It's a

926
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: pretty seamless process on the iPhone to the home pod.

927
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: Hopefully we figure this out. I'll keep you updated next week.

928
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: Thanks for the call.

929
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: Eighty to eight Rich one o one eight eight eight

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00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one, Zachary, I've

931
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: just got two minutes.

932
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: So what happened with you?

933
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: You got you got scammed as well?

934
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 12: Yes, sir, thank you for dicking my call. So on

935
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 12: cash app, I had about a month and a half ago,

936
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 12: I had some fraud going on. About five one hundred

937
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 12: and eighty dollars were taken out of my account on

938
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 12: three different charges. I was able to get one retracted

939
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 12: for Amazon and then the other like two hundred and

940
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 12: forty dollars from Walmart. We're rejected it from cash app,

941
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 12: and I just wanted to know I had requested a

942
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 12: new card. I got a new card about two and

943
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 12: a half weeks ago, and then I'm still having like

944
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 12: a lot of fraud attempted on my card. I keep

945
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 12: that walked all the time. So should I leave a

946
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 12: cash app at this point because maybe they're just not a.

947
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I would if they're not protecting your account. I mean,

948
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: that's insane to have fraud on a brand new card

949
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: like that unless someone has access to your account. Have

950
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: you have you gone in and cleared out your old

951
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: devices that have access to your cash app.

952
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 12: I do have a Razor motorole Eraser. So I'm not

953
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 12: sure if I should, you know, update to an iPhone?

954
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 9: Would that be more secure?

955
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: Well?

956
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: How are you using this if you don't have a

957
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: if you don't have a smartphone, how'd you set this up?

958
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 12: I set it up through my.

959
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: Motorole Eraser.

960
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 12: I have T Mobile as my service.

961
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: But that doesn't When you say cash app, you mean

962
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: cash like the what do you mean by cash app?

963
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 9: Cash app?

964
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: It's an app.

965
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 4: It's an app that.

966
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 12: Is supported by Wells Fargo is from what I understand

967
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 12: about it.

968
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So are you as you're you're saying you have

969
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: a motorol erasor you mean like the one that downloads

970
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: apps like an Android?

971
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

972
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Okay, god god, okay, I was I was confused. I

973
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: was thinking like old school motor Erazor. I was like, wait,

974
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: how's that one?

975
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: Okay?

976
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: Okay. I would go in number one.

977
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: I would go into your security and privacy and look

978
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: at your settings there for me, I just logged in

979
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: and says your device is forty six. So I've got

980
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: to go in and clear out my old all my

981
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: old devices that I'm logged into the cash app on.

982
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: You may be you know if they got access to

983
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: your account at a at a root level, they may

984
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: have somehow installed it on one of their phones and

985
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: that's how they're getting access. I would also make sure

986
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: that you have the highest level of authentication turned on

987
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: as well, so two factor authentication if it supports that.

988
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: But the best you could do is, if this keeps happening,

989
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: they keep compromising your card number, you got to get

990
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: you got to switch to something else. That's that's really

991
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: not supposed to happen. I've had cash app forever. I've

992
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: never had a problem. I don't use my card regularly,

993
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: but I've had a card with them for a long time.

994
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 9: I've had one with.

995
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 12: Them too, for like a year and a half and

996
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 12: then this just all started happening like a month and

997
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 12: a half ago. So I just wanted to get your

998
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 12: exercise on it. So I'm gonna definitely take your advice

999
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 12: on that. And you know, I appreciate you taking my call.

1000
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks a lot, Zachary, appreciate it.

1001
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I would also set up a new pin for sure,

1002
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, be careful. And this is why you know,

1003
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: this is why you shouldn't use your your primary checking

1004
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: account linked to these things. If you're going to use

1005
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: like a cash card like this, maybe set up a

1006
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: secondary account that you only use for this kind of

1007
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: stuff on your bank instead of your primary account your

1008
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: day to day spending. Eighty eight Rich one O one

1009
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

1010
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech Rich DeMuro here hanging

1011
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at triple eight Rich one

1012
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

1013
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: one zero one. Phone lines are open, Give me a call,

1014
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: or go to the website rich on tech dot TV.

1015
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: There you can get notes for everything we mentioned on

1016
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: the show. This is episode one fourteen. All right, let's

1017
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: go to uh Dino in Michigan. Dino your own with Rich.

1018
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 13: Hi, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

1019
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on?

1020
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: So?

1021
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: I email large groups of people.

1022
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 13: And it's like fifty to sixty And the way I've

1023
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 13: done it the last ten eight to ten years is

1024
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 13: I put it in my notes and then I just

1025
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 13: copy paste all those emails in well, the last two

1026
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 13: or three updates. I'm not sure exactly when it happened.

1027
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 13: On the software on an Apple on the iPhone. Uh

1028
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 13: it it will not take the emails.

1029
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 3: It won't let you in the mail app.

1030
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, it will, it will not let me mail that

1031
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 13: copy and paste oh.

1032
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Of just all the different email addresses. Yeah yeah, interesting,

1033
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Well they did update the mail app on the iPhone,

1034
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: so that might be it. And did it happen Did

1035
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: it happen when there was like the remodel of the

1036
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: app or what?

1037
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: Yahoo?

1038
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Oh use yahoo?

1039
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1040
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh they changed their app too? Did it happen with that?

1041
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: I really I can't target it.

1042
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 13: I can't pick I can't pick the date when it

1043
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 13: happened as far as which iOS you know, level it

1044
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 13: was on, and it was it was quite a way ago, it.

1045
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: Was, Okay.

1046
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I think the the way to get around this is

1047
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: to set up a list.

1048
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: Have you done that? Okay?

1049
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: So I think that's the way to do it because

1050
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: that's what I do. An outlook, I've got a group

1051
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: of people that I email. I've I've got two things.

1052
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: So first off, I know what you're talking about because

1053
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: I've got a group of people. I've got two ways

1054
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: that I email a group of people. So the first

1055
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: is I've got a whole group of people that I

1056
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: just copy and paste their email into Gmail. It figures

1057
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: out the email addresses, you know, it kind of parses

1058
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: them out and puts it in there. And that's fine

1059
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: if that's not working in Yahoo like it used to,

1060
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: because you know, they change the app and they just

1061
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: may not support that anymore. I don't use Yahoo Mail,

1062
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: so I can't really tell you because I haven't tried that.

1063
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: But typically if it doesn't work, the best second way

1064
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: is to just create a list. And so go into

1065
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: your your Yahoo Mail and then you got to click

1066
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: your contacts and there's a lists tab and it says plus.

1067
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: You click that plus button create list, and you just

1068
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: add your contacts, name the list, add your contacts, and

1069
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: press save, and then you should be able to use

1070
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: that list to send out the email once you you know,

1071
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: once you have that list, you can just send an

1072
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: email to that list of people. So that is probably

1073
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: the best way to do it, and then you can,

1074
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, make a group email out of that. Looking here, yeah,

1075
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: the old way, yeah, I think that's going to be

1076
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: the best way to do it, you know, is just

1077
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: create a list in your contacts and I would you know,

1078
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: that's probably going to be easy and you can keep

1079
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: people updated on the list and all that good stuff,

1080
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and just compose an email to that list of people.

1081
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: But I would continue to check every so often, you know,

1082
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: every time you you know, get an app update on

1083
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: the iPhone or whatever you're using, whatever platform you're using

1084
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: with Yahoo, Mel, just check and see if you can

1085
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: copy and paste the email addresses in. Sometimes when things

1086
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: are redesigned, right when an app gets a big redesign,

1087
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: they get the core functionality working first, and then as

1088
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: they do updates, just because they want to get the

1089
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: major redesign out there, they kind of add things as

1090
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: they go along, so not everything is supported all at once.

1091
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: And this is pretty apparent with the Outlook, with the

1092
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: Outlook application on computers, they've sort of been revamping that

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Speaker 1: with a new version of Outlook, and I've noticed on

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Speaker 1: my computer anyway, it's getting new features all the time,

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Speaker 1: like everything was not there on day one. And we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this before, because they let you go to

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Speaker 1: what's called a classic Outlook. You can toggle between the

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Speaker 1: classic Outlook and the New Outlook in the settings, and

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Speaker 1: the reason they do that is because there's some traditional

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Speaker 1: settings that people use, historic whatever that people needed, and

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Speaker 1: they're no longer in the new app just yet. Eventually

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Speaker 1: they'll make their way there, but they're not there just yet.

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Speaker 1: But I think making a list is probably the best

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Speaker 1: way to do it. I will link up in the

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Speaker 1: show notes how to create and how to create a

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Speaker 1: contact list in the new Yahoo Mail. But thanks for

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Speaker 1: the question, do you know appreciate it? Eighty eight rich

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Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Remember Claude this is the competitive chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: It's an AI chatbot.

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Speaker 1: It's the one that I used to use exclusively until

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Speaker 1: someone convinced me to switch to chat GBT, And now

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Speaker 1: I've been using that and now, of course, as these

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Speaker 1: things get to know you more and more, it's tougher

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Speaker 1: and tougher to switch away because they've kind of gotten

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Speaker 1: what you like and what you don't like figured out.

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Speaker 1: So with that said, one of the reasons, one of

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Speaker 1: the big reasons I like chat GBT is because they

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Speaker 1: got web searches, and that was now part of you know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of closer to what Google does. You can

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Speaker 1: get real time web search results. Well, now Claude has that.

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Speaker 1: So Claude AI now has web search access, letting you

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Speaker 1: pull in real time information from the Internet so you

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Speaker 1: can check current events, you know, do product comparisons, financial

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Speaker 1: data research. It also provides direct citations so you can

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Speaker 1: fact check sources, so instead of having to go through

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Speaker 1: the search results yourself will it will show you exactly

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Speaker 1: why it got that information. So this is available now

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Speaker 1: for paid claud users in the US. Free users will

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Speaker 1: get it soon. So if you want to use it,

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Speaker 1: you can toggle on web search in your profile settings

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Speaker 1: and then Claude will search the web when necessary, similar

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Speaker 1: to what chat Gibt does. Anyway, Claude got some real

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Speaker 1: time web search eight eight eight rich one on one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 3: More rich on Tech coming your way right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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Speaker 1: technology with you at Triple eight rich one on one.

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Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. If you got a question about technology, give

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Speaker 1: me a call. We'll get back to those phone lines

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. If you want to link to

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Speaker 1: something I mentioned, go to the website rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot TV. Take very good show notes and anything I

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Speaker 1: talk about is linked up right there. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got an interesting guest to talk technology today, Mark Anthony

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Speaker 1: Arena calls himself the computer Exorcist computer Exorcist, thecomputer Exorcist

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Speaker 1: dot com author, podcaster and speaker Mark. I was going

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Speaker 1: Marc Anthony. I was going through some you go by

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Speaker 1: Mark or Marc Anthony either way, Okay, Mark, So I was,

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Speaker 1: I was going through some of your talks. You sent

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Speaker 1: me one of the talks you recently did, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's a little jarring for people because you kind of

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00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: take a very different approach to this stuff. And well,

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Speaker 1: first off, just kind of how'd you get the name

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Speaker 1: computer exercist?

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Speaker 9: You know, it's a great question. This stuff just it

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 9: acts possessed, right, All of this stuff acts possessed. It

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Speaker 9: has a mind of its own. It does whatever it wants.

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Speaker 9: So I thought, what an app's name, what a way

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Speaker 9: to describe it? And people go, wow, that makes so

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Speaker 9: much sense. My technology does whatever it wants.

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Speaker 1: That is my favorite quote. When people tell me it

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Speaker 1: just did this by itself. That's always like to me,

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Speaker 1: like it seems like it does. And yes, sometimes things do,

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Speaker 1: but there's usually a fix for things.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes not.

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Speaker 1: But first off, you say that viruses stopped happening in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, explain and what you think the real threats

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Speaker 1: are to computer users today.

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Speaker 10: I've been doing this job twelve hours a day since

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Speaker 10: two thousand and nine, and I have not seen a

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Speaker 10: tradition old virus in a residential setting since twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 9: There are new threats.

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Speaker 3: Out there, all right.

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Speaker 10: Doesn't mean there are no threats out there. There are

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Speaker 10: just new ones that are far beyond traditional viruses. So

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Speaker 10: if you are paying for some antivirus product, that means

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Speaker 10: it's a beautiful waste of seventy bucks a year down

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Speaker 10: the toilet and it slows down your computer down to molasses.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes slows your computer down by ninety.

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Speaker 10: Percent, And you bring it to the store and they say, oh,

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Speaker 10: your computer's old, it's slow.

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Speaker 9: Put it in the garbage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we live in an economy where people, you know,

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Speaker 1: a world where everything is tossable. So you don't think

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Speaker 1: viruses are big iss You don't think people feel good

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Speaker 1: about having that protection. Is that really what the whole

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Speaker 1: business and industry is built upon?

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Speaker 9: Exactly?

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Speaker 10: It's all a false sense of security. That's what you're

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Speaker 10: paying the money for. You're just rubbing dollar bills all

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Speaker 10: over your computer and hoping that it helps.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 10: Everything in my industry is myth rumor legend, hearsay and superstition.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, so what to our people up against.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just heard a person who is scammed

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Speaker 1: by a text message out of like thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Do you think like phishing emails like that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff is really where the scams are these days?

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Speaker 9: There's four new threats. Number one is legalized malware.

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Speaker 10: Okay, the bad guys realize something, right, Let's say, rich,

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Speaker 10: Let's say you and I want to rob a bank.

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Speaker 10: So we go over to the bank and we walk

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Speaker 10: in and we say, hey, everyone, stick them up.

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Speaker 9: We're the plumbers.

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Speaker 10: If we don't say we're bank robbers, we say we're plumbers,

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Speaker 10: we get away with it.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly what's happening here. So if I'm evil.

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Speaker 10: And we want to create some kind of malicious software,

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Speaker 10: we get an evil secretary and an evil water cooler,

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Speaker 10: an evil fish tank, and we create an evil company,

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Speaker 10: and we can call it a cleaner, an optimizer, a toolbar,

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Speaker 10: or a customer participation program.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, so you think all those things are just ways

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Speaker 1: of getting information off of people.

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Speaker 9: It's fully legal, so no virus scanner can ever find it.

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Speaker 10: In your computer to a dude and he does a

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Speaker 10: virus scan, it means he hasn't had updated training.

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Speaker 9: It's like if you go to the doctor and your

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Speaker 9: doctor says, hey, rich, do you have bubonic plague? No?

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Speaker 9: All right, well then that's really that's all I know

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Speaker 9: how to handle. So that's all I can help you with.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so talk about you kind of mentioned this earlier,

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Speaker 1: but the idea of like being forced to upgrade unnecessarily,

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Speaker 1: So how long do you think a computer should last?

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Speaker 10: That's so that's my second new threat, right, I talk

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Speaker 10: about the four new threats, So updates are my second

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Speaker 10: new threat. I have coined the term update attack to

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Speaker 10: describe what's happening. Updates come from the publisher, right, whatever

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Speaker 10: big tech company you bought the product from. The updates

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Speaker 10: are from the publisher, and they mean well, right, they

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Speaker 10: claim that they're going to patch something that they forgot

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Speaker 10: to fix when they sold it to you, so they

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Speaker 10: let it's it's always something like you'll hear it on

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Speaker 10: the news. Right. Smartphone users are encouraged to update because

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Speaker 10: if you don't update, we discover that a guy in

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Speaker 10: Siberia wearing a green shirt on a Wednesday, and it's

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Speaker 10: eight fifteen.

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Speaker 9: And a high tide and a new moon cold to

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Speaker 9: get into your computer.

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Speaker 10: So it's some astronomically unlikely situation that they're worried about.

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Speaker 10: And what happens you.

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Speaker 9: Apply the update?

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Speaker 10: And there are a lot of side effects, right, what

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Speaker 10: happens after every update?

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Speaker 9: What do people experience?

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Speaker 1: It's slow, it crashes, It doesn't do the same thing

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Speaker 1: that you used to want exactly.

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Speaker 10: It scrambles the thing like scrambled eggs. It rearranges everything,

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Speaker 10: and I can't.

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Speaker 9: Find I used to be able to do this, and

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Speaker 9: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 10: And other's an update, and it slows your machine down dramatically, right,

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Speaker 10: And that's convenient, right, because all of a sudden, Oh

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Speaker 10: you know what, my phone's kind of slow.

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Speaker 9: It's a year old. I'll just put it in the

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Speaker 9: garbage and buy another one.

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Speaker 10: And it usually it fixes one thing and it might

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Speaker 10: break ten other things.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember I actually defended Apple for years and

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Speaker 1: I was very angry at this. People would say, oh,

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Speaker 1: my battery, you know, my phone feels like it's slowing down,

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Speaker 1: slowing down after the software update, said, no, that's silly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it gets better and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Apple comes out and he said, oh, by the way, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were throttling phones because we wanted them to be

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Speaker 1: smooth and have a good user experience as they got older.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, wait, so hold on, you were kind

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Speaker 1: of lying all these years to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they were.

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Speaker 9: I've been saying this for years.

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Speaker 10: I was on AMFM radio for ten years and now

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Speaker 10: I do the podcast, and I've been saying it since

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Speaker 10: twenty twelve, since I've been on any kind of talk shows,

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Speaker 10: and it's yeah, all of these updates again, they might

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Speaker 10: mean well, they claim to help you, but they do

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Speaker 10: massive amounts of damage.

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Speaker 1: All right, what about these fake tech support calls? You know,

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Speaker 1: people get scammed. These happen all the time. People google

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Speaker 1: a phone number, they call it, they get scammed. So

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Speaker 1: how do you think someone could spot one of these

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Speaker 1: scams quickly?

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Speaker 10: And that's new threat number three. It's called the support scam.

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Speaker 10: There's four ways you can get one. Either you go

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Speaker 10: on the internet and search I need Outlook tech support,

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00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 10: I need Aol tech support, I need whatever tech support,

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 10: or a guy gives you a phone call out of

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Speaker 10: the blue, because they're calling every number one at a time,

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Speaker 10: Or you get a scary email that says geek squad

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Speaker 10: invoice and it's from Cindi Luhu at aol dot.

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Speaker 9: Com or something preposterous.

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01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 10: Or you get a scary pop up right that full

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Speaker 10: screen message on your screen and their sirens going off

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Speaker 10: because they know senior citizens can't lower their volume, and

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Speaker 10: there's loud noises and it says warning you have trojans

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Speaker 10: and cookies and viruses and North Koreans and oh my,

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01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 10: the sky is falling. So those are the four ways

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Speaker 10: you can get a support scam. If you get the

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Speaker 10: guy on the phone, then they give you a litany

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Speaker 10: of scary sentences. That's all it is, folks, it's scary sentences.

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 10: Your anti virus product can't protect you against a dude

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 10: on the phone saying scary words, can it. So the

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Speaker 10: trick is here. Just hang up on the guy and

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Speaker 10: whatever you do, don't let him into your computer. As

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Speaker 10: long as you hang up on the guy and ignore him,

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Speaker 10: you're fine. If you let him into your computer, that's

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Speaker 10: when you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we finally, what's the one piece of

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Speaker 1: tech advice you wish every senior or non techie would

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Speaker 1: know is.

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Speaker 9: All this stuff can last ten years.

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Speaker 10: You don't need a new one when the store tells

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Speaker 10: you to buy a new one. I make buy money

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Speaker 10: by saving people money instead of like pushing products and

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Speaker 10: services on you. So in order to prove a point,

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Speaker 10: I use computers that are at least ten years old.

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Speaker 9: I have three laptops, my personal laptops. They're from twenty

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Speaker 9: twelve and twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: That's wild. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well here I am trying to upgrade again after

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Speaker 1: a year, but I guess I will stop. But I

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Speaker 1: do tell people that, look, you can. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't recommend you upgrade unless there's one hundred percent need

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Speaker 1: to do that. And by the way, you can get

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Speaker 1: a lot of life out of a computer with the

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Speaker 1: chromos Flex.

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Speaker 3: Do you recommend that at all for people?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, if the machine is more than ten years old

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Speaker 10: and you just want it as a travel machine or

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Speaker 10: you want to give it to your kids, sure you

1334
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 10: can put chrome os flex. That's pretty easy for a

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Speaker 10: moderately experienced tech guy to do. I personally love a

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Speaker 10: product called Mint. It's a lot more powerful. So it's

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Speaker 10: not Windows, it's not Mac it's not Chrome. It's a

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Speaker 10: fourth thing called Mint, and it looks just like Windows seven,

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Speaker 10: so there's no learning curve. And I put it on

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Speaker 10: ten year old computers and people just don't have problems anymore.

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Speaker 10: Instead of milking people for fees, I just don't have

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Speaker 10: problems anymore.

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Speaker 9: I solve all their problems.

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Speaker 3: Is that the Linux Mint?

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Speaker 9: Yes? But I never say that.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

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01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 9: The computer guy told me Linux is scary.

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Speaker 1: Right, sounds way too scary for the apportrition. Okay, hold on,

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Speaker 1: so we got through the updates, the update attacks, and

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Speaker 1: the support scam.

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Speaker 3: What's the fourth do we get to the fourth?

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Speaker 9: The fourth one is ransomware? Okay right?

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 10: Where something walks into your computer like a hot knife

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01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 10: through butter. It scrambles your documents and photos and then

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Speaker 10: begs you for a ton of money in ransom.

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Speaker 3: How do you stay away from that?

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Speaker 10: Don't usevite yourself, Windows and Heaven forbid outlook. But all

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 10: you really need to do is a real proper backup.

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Speaker 10: You duplicate your documents and photos onto an external hard drive,

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Speaker 10: and then you disconnect the external hard drive.

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Speaker 9: It's crazy.

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01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 10: How seventy six percent of organizations end up.

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Speaker 9: Paying huge amounts of ransom because.

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Speaker 10: The guys they hire to protect them do not understand

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Speaker 10: how to do that basic concept. You do a backup,

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 10: you disconnect it, you put it in a fire safe.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 1: And then if your computer gets compromised, you just restore

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Speaker 1: that backup. You erase the computer, restore the backup. Marc

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Speaker 1: Anthony Arena, The Computer Exorcist dot Com. Fun to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. This was excellent. Hopefully you'll come on the

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Speaker 1: show again and share some more insights. Really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining me today. Thank you all right, The Computer Exorcist

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Speaker 1: dot com. I will link it up on my website.

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Speaker 1: Richon Tech dot TV eight eight eight rich one O

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four to

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Speaker 1: one zero one.

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Speaker 3: Uh coming up.

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Speaker 1: I got a message that my HP Instant eight prices

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Speaker 1: are going up, so I did a little comparison. The

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Speaker 1: biggest time to maybe jump ship. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: that means. Coming up right here on rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four to two, four

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Speaker 1: to one zero one. Getting a lot of emails about

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Speaker 1: the uh. The person that got scammed earlier, Connor Daryl

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Speaker 1: writes in the caller that lost five thousand dollars should

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Speaker 1: consider taking further action. The question is, and this is

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Speaker 1: what Bobo and I were saying, how did the scammer

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Speaker 1: get his transaction history from the bank. That is what

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Speaker 1: we wondered, because all the other stuff, you know, you

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: could see how they how they did that, how they

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01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: orchestrated it. But how did the bank know about his transactions?

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Speaker 1: The only way I can think of is that they

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: somehow had access to his account account history. Daryl says

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Speaker 1: the bank failed to exercise due diligence in protecting his

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01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: account information. He should file complaints with various banking agencies

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Speaker 1: and consider filing a small claims action. Remind listeners not

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: to respond to calls, but to call the phone number

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: on the back of the credit card, debit card ATM

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: or the one on your statement. Yes, Daryl says, I

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01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: got a call from my credit card about fraud of

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: my card. They left a phone number to call. I

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: called the number on the card and they transferred me

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Speaker 1: to the fraud group. The number turns out to be legitimate.

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: The fraud rep said, I did the right thing. Yeah,

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: never call back to the phone number. And especially with

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Speaker 1: all these transcriptions that the phones do now in your voicemail,

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: they make it really easy, right, It's like, oh, fraud department,

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01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: and the phone numbers like highlighted. You can just call

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Speaker 1: it right back. You can tap it. Do not do

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Speaker 1: that when in doubt. Go to the back of your card.

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01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a problem, Go to the back of

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01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: your card. Call the number on the back of the card.

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Speaker 1: Go to your statement, and by the way, you should

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Speaker 1: be printed out. You know, I have a binder. You

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01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: should probably do this as well, a binder with like

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: print out your statements, one from every account that you have,

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01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: so you have the account numbers on there. You've got

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Speaker 1: the phone numbers. And I know that you're gonna say,

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: rich Oh my gosh, that sounds like a security nightmare.

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01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's in your house. Put it in a

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: safe place. I don't know what to say. You know,

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: if something, if if everything went to hell tomorrow and

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: we lost imagine you know, your bank tomorrow like somehow

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: gets hacked or whatever and everything goes away, and like, well,

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: what was your bank account number?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, how much did you have in there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you do? Okay, well let's start

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Speaker 1: with this number. Do you have this account number?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't have that either. Well, I mean literally, we

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: don't know any of this stuff. We do not know

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Speaker 1: any of this stuff. So print out a statement for

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Speaker 1: all of your important accounts. What's your car insurance policy number?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's your vein number on your car? I

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean you don't know any of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does. So print it out, go through, take one

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Speaker 1: day a year. Get a binder, go to office depot,

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01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: get a binder, right, and then go through every single

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01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: account you have, your your financial accounts, your investment accounts,

1445
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: your credit card accounts, your bank accounts, your life insurance accounts,

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: your all of your major accounts. Right, and go through

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: and print out the latest statement and put that in

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Speaker 1: the binder. Get a three hole punch if you have

1449
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: to use the one at work, if you have to,

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01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: put it in this binder and just have it. And

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01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: if something ever happens, you have a record of your

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Speaker 1: accounts and a little snapshot in time of what was

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Speaker 1: going on. In those accounts. It makes sense. I know,

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm the tech guy. I'm telling you all about the technology,

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: and I love tech, but sometimes we have to go

1456
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: low tech to protect ourselves from the high tech. And

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do. And so if anything

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: were to happen to all your accounts and they're wiped

1459
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth, and your bank says, well, hey, bobo,

1460
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: just tell me how much you had in your account

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Speaker 1: and what your account number is and we'll restore it.

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't remember, I don't know a million dollars. Yeah, exactly,

1463
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: start with that. MS start high, but.

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Speaker 1: Start you know, you're showing the account. Oh, here's what

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: I had, here's my last snapshot. You know, let's let's

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: work with this. Let's start with that. So again, it's

1467
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Speaker 1: just protecting ourselves. Do it, do it once a year,

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01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: and just update it, you know, and maybe throw in,

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, something like any important access information. If something

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Speaker 1: were to happen to you, people can understand, you know,

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01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: where they can go, your loved ones to kind of

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Speaker 1: recover some of this stuff. I know it sounds very

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: low tech, and yes, please protect that binder. Hopefully have

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Speaker 1: some sort of safe in your home or you can

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: put that fireproof safe. But it's just to you know,

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: if any if you ever had to like recover all

1477
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: this stuff, you'd find it very tough without having any

1478
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: of it. HP instant Ink prices are going up in April.

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Speaker 1: So I've had this HP instant Ink subscription. H I

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: don't like it, but I pay for it because it's easy.

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Speaker 1: And the thing to know about it, and this is

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Speaker 1: what kept me there is that once you're on the

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01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: HP instant inc as far as I know, you can't

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: just stop and use the ink cartridges that they sent

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01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: you and leave them in your printer. No, those don't

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: work anymore when you stop, when you get off the merry,

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: go round the carousel, and you say, no, I'm gonna

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: stop paying for this. You got to get new ink cartridges.

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: So for me it was like, you know, over one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I'm like, wait, I gotta spend all this money.

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: So starting April eighteenth, the instant ink price is going up.

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: So you can pause, you can downgrade, you can cancel

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: at any time if you want. So the new they

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01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: also introduced a new twenty five page plan at three

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Speaker 1: dollars forty nine cents a month. So if you just

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: have you know, a couple of pages you need to

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Speaker 1: print a month, that's not bad, right, three dollars fifty cents.

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: But I would compare the price of a cartridge to

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Speaker 1: how much you're spending on this service, and I did

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Speaker 1: some math, So I looked at the three pack of

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Speaker 1: color cartridges that's about seventy three dollars that lasts for

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: seven hundred pages of color. Then you can get the

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: Excel Black cartridge for fifty four dollars that lasts about

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: two two thousand pages. So it depends on how much

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01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: you print. Basically, I've decided on whether this costs you

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01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: money or saves you money. Right, so go to your

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01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: account on HP and see how much you're spending on

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01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: your printing or how much you're printing every month. So,

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: by the way, these are the new plans. One hundred

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: pages a month seven ninety nine, three hundred pages a

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: month sixteen dollars, five hundred pages twenty three to ninety nine.

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: So basically the bottom line is it's cheaper if you

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: print a lot of color, like a ton of color

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: pages every month, it's probably cheaper to go with the

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: HP instant ink plan. If you're only printing black and white,

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: or you're not printing very much, or you're printing a

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: ton rather, it's probably better to go with the cartridge.

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: So roughly, if you're buying cartridges, color is about ten

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Speaker 1: cents per page, black is about three cents per page,

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: and then if you look at HP instant ink, it's

1521
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: about five cents per page whether you're printing black or white.

1522
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: So bottom line is, if you're printing a lot of color,

1523
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 1: probably better to go with the subscription. If you're printing

1524
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot of black and white, it's probably better just

1525
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: to buy your coverage or buy your ink cartridges. I'll

1526
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: probably be canceling that at this point. I wish I

1527
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: could go back to my laser. I had an old

1528
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: brother laser printer. I love that thing. Dirt cheap at

1529
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: the ink cartridge last forever. The laser toner that my

1530
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: kids wanted. Color HP is like a razor. They sell

1531
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: you the printer for like five bucks. The razor blades

1532
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: are like ten thousand dollars. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

1534
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Getting a lot of emails

1535
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: about these fraudulent transactions. We talked to the guy about

1536
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: his cash app. He had a bunch of issues there.

1537
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: Scams are happening. They are happening every day, all day.

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: It is quite unbelievable, Randy says, your caller with using

1539
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: the cash app is a perfect example of why I

1540
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: tell people not to do financial applications on your phone,

1541
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: maybe except when you're at home and on your Wi Fi,

1542
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: doing on your computer, not your phone. You know, I

1543
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: actually don't agree with that. I think that you're fine

1544
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: on your phone. Actually, I think your phone is in

1545
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: many cases more secure than your computer because if you're

1546
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: on an iPhone or an Android, you know, a lot

1547
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: of those times, especially iPhone, everything's sandboxed, so if you're

1548
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: opening up your app, no other app can interact with

1549
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: your banking app on your phone. So I actually think

1550
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: it's quite secure on your phone, and I have no

1551
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: problem recommending that. The main thing and I do tell

1552
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: people is do not use Wi Fi public Wi Fi

1553
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: when you're doing any sort of secure transaction. So if

1554
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: you are doing any sort of banking transactions, or even

1555
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: if it's highly secure email transactions, things like that, I

1556
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: always recommend that you use just your cellular connection. So

1557
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: when you're on your phone, your cellular connection between your

1558
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: phone and your cellular carrier is a very secure connection,

1559
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: much more secure than Wi Fi. So when in doubt,

1560
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: just toggle off the Wi Fi and make sure you're

1561
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: not using Wi Fi and actually go into It's weird

1562
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: because on the iPhone, if you're toggling Wi Fi off

1563
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: in your control center, which is when you swipe from

1564
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: the right, that actually does not turn Wi Fi off.

1565
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: It just disconnects you from the current Wi Fi network.

1566
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: So if you actually want to turn off Wi Fi

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: for sure on your phone, you have to go into

1568
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: your settings and where it says Wi Fi, you have

1569
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: to toggle it off there, and that way it will

1570
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: physically turn off the Wi Fi on your actual device

1571
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: versus just toggling just disconnecting from.

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01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: The network you're on.

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: But Randy, look, it's always good for people to kind

1574
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: of understand what they're up against and understand how to

1575
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: stay secure when you're doing any sort of transaction that's sensitive,

1576
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: which is usually financial. The other thing is, if you're

1577
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: using a VPN, make sure you trust that VPN because

1578
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: that's basically a middleman between you and whatever you're doing,

1579
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: and so just be very careful that you trust that VPN,

1580
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: especially if it's a free one. I would pay for

1581
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: it if you're going to use one, and make sure

1582
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: it's from a company that you like. By the way,

1583
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: if you're a T mobile customer, speaking of wireless, if

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: you have the te Life app, you know that's the

1585
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: one that gives you like flee, free slurpees and all that.

1586
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: Those like two mobile perks that customers get. This is

1587
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: Temo report says, check the app because you might be

1588
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: getting a free phone line with almost no strings attached.

1589
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: And they said that this is a perk that's not

1590
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: been given out for over two years, but select customers

1591
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: can open up the app and it's targeted for your account.

1592
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: So basically, I don't know what the reasoning is, why

1593
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: you're getting it, why someone else isn't, But it's a

1594
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: loyalty kind of perk, and so you might get a

1595
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: completely free phone line. It's just a one time ten

1596
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: dollars device connection charge. You have to bring your own device,

1597
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: no financing allowed and not available if you already have

1598
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: two or more free lines but or maxed out lines

1599
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: twelve lines, so anyway, check it out. If you want

1600
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: a free line from T Mobile and you're a customer,

1601
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: check out the Tea Life app and see you might

1602
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: be eligible for one. I know last time we had

1603
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: this deal, it was like Verizon had something where if

1604
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: you open up the app, they would give you like

1605
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: ten dollars off a month. I took advantage of that

1606
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: worked pretty well. Let's go to Bob in Los Angeles.

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: Bob, you're on with rich Oh hi Hei.

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01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 14: So I'm calling in regards to I have about four

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01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 14: Apple arm or Mac laptops that I've been you know,

1610
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 14: over the years I've on's either stopped working or I'm

1611
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 14: upgrading and so forth. But I've never got rid of

1612
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 14: them because I don't know this the best way to

1613
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 14: wipe the hard drive before I, you know, take it

1614
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 14: to eway so that information. I know, you can do

1615
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 14: a resep but it doesn't wipe it. What's the best way.

1616
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 8: Of doing it?

1617
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 14: I asked my son, who's a graphics specialist that has

1618
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 14: a lot of computers over the year, and I asked

1619
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 14: him what he did. He says, oh, I just smash

1620
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 14: it everything with a hammer. Well, I don't want to

1621
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 14: do that, particularly, I don't want to hit a with

1622
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 14: them battery and so forth. So I did here years

1623
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 14: ago people recommending use a strong earth magnet to either

1624
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 14: life or scramble or something. But I really have no

1625
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 14: idea what I'm supposed to do.

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's probably the best solution.

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: And yes, there are there are some you know. Yes,

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can drive a

1630
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: screw through the drive if you're you know, or a

1631
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: bit whatever you want to do with your you know,

1632
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: with your drill, but I don't really recommend doing that.

1633
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: That's probably not the best way to do it.

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01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 9: So you're right.

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01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: So in general, I would say unless you are dealing

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: with like government files and things like that. For ninety

1637
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: nine percent of people, the you know, there are instructions

1638
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: on Apple's website on what to do before you you know,

1639
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: give your Mac away and the newest Max. There's two

1640
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 1: ways to do it. Basically, the Newest Max it's very simple.

1641
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: It's just like the iPhone where it's like erase all

1642
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: content in settings, so you can do that very simply.

1643
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: The other way to do it, if you have an

1644
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: older Mac, which is an Intel based Mac. You have

1645
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: to use the disc utility and so you use that

1646
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: to erase it and reinstall Mac os, and then they

1647
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: also tell you if you're using an Intel based Mac,

1648
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: there are some steps to reset the env RAM and

1649
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: so you can do that, which this clears user settings

1650
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: for memory and restore certain security related features.

1651
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 3: Now here's the thing.

1652
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that even after you do this,

1653
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: there might be fragments of files that could be recovered.

1654
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: And that could be true. So what some people might

1655
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: do is actually just erase the Mac again, and I

1656
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: think for ninety nine percent of people that's probably going

1657
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: to be sufficient. But if you're still worried, then you'd

1658
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: have to turn to like a third party app and

1659
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: just looking online at a couple. I've used a couple

1660
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: over the years, but there's it's been a while I

1661
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: did this because now I just kind of erase it

1662
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: a couple of times. But there is one that gets

1663
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: good reviews. It's called Let's see do your Data super Eraser?

1664
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: So that one and you can do that because it

1665
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: will it offers military and government data erasure standards to

1666
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: permanently erase data and prevent potential data recovery. So again

1667
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't think everyone needs to do this. I think

1668
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: that the standard erasing on the built in operating system

1669
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: will be fine for ninety nine percent of people, whether

1670
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: you're on Mac or Windows. But again, if you do

1671
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: have some secure stuff, you do that twice and that

1672
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: should be better. But you know, when hard drives are erased,

1673
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: they're not actually erased. It's more like they take away

1674
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: the directions that tell you where to find those files.

1675
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: So someone with the right software might be able to

1676
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: go through and actually recover some of the files on

1677
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: those computers. There's also one called shred os and this

1678
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: is believe this one's for Windows, So that's that's for

1679
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: Windows if you're trying to do that. And then where's

1680
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: the other one that I saw that I liked? H

1681
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this one actually used which was pretty good.

1682
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: It was called disc drill, and that one was great.

1683
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: It helped me reinstall the operating system and apparently they

1684
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 1: can also help you wipe as well. Now, some of

1685
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: these are going to charge you, so you may have

1686
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: to charge you could look for you can look for

1687
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: some open source software.

1688
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 3: So typically what I do is I type in what.

1689
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: I want to use, So let's say disc drill, and

1690
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,480
Speaker 1: so they usually have At this alternative two dot net website,

1691
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: you can type in software and it will give you

1692
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: the software that's similar that's open source. And so if

1693
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: you want like an open source disc wiping utility, you

1694
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: can look in.

1695
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: There as well. So there are a million and one

1696
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: ways of doing this.

1697
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: I have talked to a lot of the services that

1698
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: recycle computers, like especially if you go to any of

1699
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: the big companies like a Staples or a best Buy

1700
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: or an Apple or any of these services, you know

1701
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: they have systems in place where they say, look, you know,

1702
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: because not everyone's super techy, they're just dropping this stuff

1703
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: off to get recycled. They will say, hey, look we

1704
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: will take care of it. We will make sure that

1705
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: nobody can you know that we will erase your stuff

1706
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: responsibly before we do anything with it. And if you

1707
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: have a you know, worse comes to worse. If you

1708
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: bring your computer there and the hard drive is encrypted

1709
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: and you have a password on that computer, worst comes

1710
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: to worse. If you put your trust into these companies,

1711
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, they theoretically can't get into that computer anyway.

1712
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: But I would at the very least. I'm not saying

1713
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: you should bring it with your password and all that stuff.

1714
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: I would at the very least wipe your computer at

1715
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: the operating system level, just to at least have it,

1716
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: you know, cleaned off.

1717
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 5: Now.

1718
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: I do remember I brought my computer in one time

1719
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: twice actually, where they asked for the password on the

1720
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: device and I was like, I just laughed in their face.

1721
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not giving you the password to

1722
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: my device, no way. And they're like, all right, well

1723
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: we may have to wipe the hard drive then if

1724
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: we don't have that, Yeah, you can wipe hard drive again.

1725
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: It goes back to what our computer exercist said, make

1726
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: a backup of things that will save you so many headaches.

1727
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: If your computer hard drive goes out tomorrow and crashes completely,

1728
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: if you have a backup of your important files, you'll

1729
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: be fine. You just reinstall, you know, get a new

1730
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: hard drive, reinstall the operating system, copy over the files,

1731
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: and you're done. But it's when you don't have a

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01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: backup is when you have problems. And there are so

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01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: many ways you can do backups. For me personally, I

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: don't need a full complete backup of my entire system

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01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: because I don't keep anything on my system. I keep

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01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: it all in the cloud, so I need a backup

1737
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: of my cloud networks, but I don't need a backup

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01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: of my actual system. If my computer, if the card

1739
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: drive crash tomorrow, yeah I'd be annoying, but I would

1740
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: just reinstall Dropbox, reinstall Google Drive, reinstall Evernoe, go to

1741
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: my Google and yeah, everything would be there. So unless

1742
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,839
Speaker 1: you have a big collection of photos on your computer

1743
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: that you don't have backed up somewhere, which by the way,

1744
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: that should never be the case, or a music collection or.

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 3: Something, you know, just make a backup.

1746
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: And we talked last week with kimber Streams from a Wirecutter,

1747
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: and all they said is just go into the file

1748
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: history on Windows, or go into time Machine on Mac.

1749
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: It's built into the operating system. Go get a hard drive.

1750
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Just go get a hard drive from best Buy or

1751
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: wherever or online, Seagate, Amazon, Just buy the hard drive

1752
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: a terabyte, two terabytes, it's like sixty bucks. Plug it

1753
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: into your computer. Now, if your computer doesn't say, hey,

1754
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: do you want to use this as a backup drive,

1755
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: then just go into file history on Windows or go

1756
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: into time Machine on Mac and just set it say hey,

1757
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: this is my backup. Or you can go to an

1758
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: online service and just use that to back up your

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: whole computer.

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01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 3: It's very, very simple. It's just most people don't take

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: the time to do it.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one the website rich

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01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: tech dot tv. Coming up later this hour, we're gonna

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01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: talk to the founder of the app death clock about

1766
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: how to use an AI to predict when you might die.

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, scary stuff. This is rich on Tech.

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology.

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01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: Coming up this hour, we've got the founder of the

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01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: death clock app. Yeah, I think it scares you into

1771
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: being healthy. I say that as I eat my U

1772
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: vanilla cake bread. It's vegan though, that makes it healthy, right,

1773
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: isn't anything that's like vegan healthy?

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 3: No? No, well it's just loaded with sugar some stuff, Yes,

1775
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: some stuff. Some vegan stuff has a lot of sugar.

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01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 9: Add it.

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01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: Here's actually how you know when something's unhealthy for you,

1778
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Like if you buy a bag of like candy, it'll

1779
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: it'll highlight the least bad thing for you. It'd be

1780
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: like fat free. But it doesn't mention that it has

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01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: like two percent of your sugar in.

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 3: That bag or how much sodium is in it.

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01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just yeah, I'd be like, I'd be

1784
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: like low low trans fats. You're like, oh great, but

1785
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: one hundred percent cholesterol whatever.

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Speaker 3: This is a side story.

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Speaker 15: I'm not going to say the name of the restaurant,

1788
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 15: but me and my trainer went to eat at a

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 15: vegetarian spot because he's vegetarian. And he told him like, hey,

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 15: I think it'd be a good idea if you guys

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01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,919
Speaker 15: put like the nutritional values of each thing, the protein,

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 15: the calories like all that.

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, no, we're not going to do that. Yeah,

1794
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: because it's bad for you. Yeah.

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 15: Well yeah, he was like, well this last and that

1796
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 15: was the last time we ever went to our restaurant.

1797
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: I was two years ago.

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: Again, just because something is vegan or vegetarian does not

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01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: mean it's healthy. It just means it is vegan or vegetarian.

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean a vegan a vegetarian meal could be a

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: casadia that's vegetarian. Sheese and a shit and by the way,

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: she's you know, so I get it, but but I

1803
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: always think it's funny, like and he just look at

1804
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: the store when you go to the store next next time,

1805
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: just look at all the unk food and just look

1806
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: at the whatever's highlighted on the front of the drunk food.

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01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: It'll be like, you know, no artificial colors, but it's

1808
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: like everything else is horrible for you in it.

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 3: So uh okay.

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01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: So we're getting a lot of a lot, not a lot,

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: but enough people questioning. Some people are supporting Connor talking about,

1812
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, how bad it is that this happened to him.

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Other people are questioning whether he's legitimate, and so let

1814
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: me just speak to that for a moment.

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: Number One, he did not come to me.

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01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: I heard his story through a friend and he told me, Hey,

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: I know this guy that this happened to, and that

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01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: was unprompted.

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01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't like that guy came to me.

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01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: So my point is it was like there's like three

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01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: levels of like, no, this guy did not seek out

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: to come on a radio show and talk about this

1823
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: so that he could, you know, get us to go fundme.

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01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: So it's nothing to do with that at all. I

1825
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 1: came to him and I said, hey, would you mind

1826
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: sharing your story on the radio because I heard this

1827
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: happen to you, and I think it could help other people.

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01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: So if you're wondering if he's legit, Yes, he's legit,

1829
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: so I would not worry about that aspect of it.

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01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: Let's go to Rod in Montana. Rod, you're on with Rich.

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01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: Hi, Rich, and thanks for taking my call.

1832
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's up.

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01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a replacement for Skype. I've been using it.

1834
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: It's in some of my advertising and stuff going back

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01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: to twenty ten the number, and I'm not wanting to

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01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: lose that number, and really does what I need to

1837
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: do because I'm I travel a lot, I'm all over

1838
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: the world. I've got I'll make international calls all over

1839
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: the world, so I need to be able to dial

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01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,879
Speaker 2: out to a number that isn't a member of whatever

1841
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: organization is there. I want to port my number off.

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01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 3: Well that's a question.

1843
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: So have you been in contact with Skype, because as

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01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, I'm not sure there's a

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01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: way to port that number.

1846
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: They will release the number to you, they.

1847
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,839
Speaker 3: Will, ye. Okay, how did you find that information?

1848
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: I googled it?

1849
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Okay, well, yes, so did I.

1850
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: But it's there's nothing official. There's there's nothing official that

1851
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: I can find. I found one person I think It

1852
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: was on Reddit that said that they were able to

1853
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: do it. But I you know, you would think if this,

1854
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: if Skype would allow you to port that number, they

1855
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: would have an official help page on porting that number.

1856
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: So my question is what did you find for Like,

1857
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, when you poured out a phone number, you

1858
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: need some sort of account number or code. Did you

1859
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: find what that would be with Skype?

1860
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: No, because I haven't figured out where I'm going to move.

1861
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: Okay, got it? So you haven't gotten for first? Okay,

1862
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: well I would.

1863
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste my time because I can't.

1864
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: It turns out I can't.

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Port it right.

1866
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, you may, you may find that you might not

1867
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: be able to. But here's my question. What are you

1868
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: trying to do with this with this phone number? So

1869
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: let's say, like like, are you making calls out? Do

1870
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: people call you? Call you on it?

1871
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: I've got about five things so that I would like

1872
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: it to do. But I'm currently doing with Scott. I

1873
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: pay to use their dial out so I can call

1874
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: anybody that's not just to have a Skype number, I

1875
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: can still call.

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01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: It rod I'm getting I'm getting the uh, They're they're

1877
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: playing me off here? How is that such a short segment.

1878
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: I got to take this. Uh hang on the line,

1879
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 1: okay eighty eight. Sorry. Coming up, we're going to talk

1880
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: about the death clock app rich on Tech dot TV.

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: We'll be right back. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

1882
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: We're just doing the robot in here. Why not.

1883
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun here on the show.

1884
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: So I talked to Rod Off off air.

1885
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 3: He's in Montana.

1886
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 1: He's looking for a Skype replacement, and so he said

1887
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: he had five tenants that he needed for his his

1888
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: new replacement to do, which is dial out numbers. You

1889
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: had to be able to port a phone number in,

1890
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: use it with a VPN, accept SMS two factor authentication codes,

1891
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: and then also be able to dial out for international calls.

1892
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm pretty sure that Google Voice checks

1893
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: all of those boxes. So I've had Google Voice since

1894
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: day one. It used to be called Grand Central. It

1895
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: was a startup. Google bought them in about three days

1896
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 1: after they started, and it was at the beginning, Google

1897
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: Voice was a way to have one phone number. This

1898
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: is back in the day when we had landlines and

1899
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: a work phone number and a cell phone number. So

1900
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: the idea is that you would call this Grand central

1901
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: number and it would ring all those phones at the

1902
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: same time. Now, of course we all have a cell

1903
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: phone and that's pretty much our primary device. We don't

1904
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: need that functionality. But Google Voice still has a lot

1905
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: of great features baked in, and I think, Rod, it's

1906
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: going to do all those things that you need. I

1907
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: think the biggest trick is going to be poorting your

1908
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: number out from Skype. I've not heard of a successful

1909
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: story on that yet. So maybe now that it's going away,

1910
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: we'll hear about how people can do that, and I

1911
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: might have to email Skype and ask them what the

1912
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: functionality is there. All right, thanks for the call. All right,

1913
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Now we've got Brent Fransen. He is the founder of

1914
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: an app called death Clock. We talked about it on

1915
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: the show before. Now he's joining us to talk about

1916
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: what this app is all about. Welcome to the show, Brent.

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01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me Rich.

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01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when I first saw this, I didn't know

1919
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: if it was a joke or not. It's not a joke,

1920
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,839
Speaker 1: so this is a real app that you created. Explain

1921
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: what the app does?

1922
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean the basic summary is we tell you

1923
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 16: when you're going to die, and then we help you

1924
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 16: live longer. What that means is you answer twenty nine

1925
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 16: questions and we've built a proprietary AI that looks at sleep, diet, exercise,

1926
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 16: family history, your answers to the questions, and then we

1927
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 16: predict two things. The date of your death, so the

1928
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 16: AI will predict an exact day eight, and then second

1929
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 16: it'll predict how much longer it thinks you can live

1930
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 16: if you change, if you change your habits, if you

1931
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 16: change the way that you're living your life.

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01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: This is so wild because it's I know there's been

1933
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: things online, websites you can go to, you can pop

1934
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: in some of this information. I'm sure insurance companies all

1935
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: have this sort of information on the back end, but

1936
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 1: to have this in a very friendly consumer facing app,

1937
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Like the app has a slick design.

1938
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's free. Well for the base part.

1939
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: We could talk about the paid upgrades later, but what

1940
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of like what was the impetus on this, Like

1941
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: why did you want to do this?

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01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 16: I basically I think our health our healthcare system is

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Speaker 16: more of a sick care system. I grew up around

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Speaker 16: a lot of addiction, and so I've got a lot

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Speaker 16: of disdain for the just the reactive nature of our

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Speaker 16: healthcare system, and so I've been very focused on building

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Speaker 16: technology that helps people manage the way that they're living

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Speaker 16: their lives so that they can have better lives and

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Speaker 16: longer lives and kind of fit in for the gap

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Speaker 16: that we've gotten healthcare system. Our healthcare system is great

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Speaker 16: if you get hit by a car, or you get

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Speaker 16: diagnosed with cancer or something, if you're being if you're

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Speaker 16: broken and being fixed in some way, but it's not

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Speaker 16: good at preventing us from getting disease in the first place.

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Speaker 16: And so I've been very focused on trying to build

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Speaker 16: technology that helps people do that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: When I first shared this app on TV and later

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Speaker 1: the radio, people are like, well, is it just a

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Speaker 1: data grab? Is you just trying to get all your

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Speaker 1: personal information? I said, I don't think so, because the

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Speaker 1: core functionality to get that life expectancy, that death date,

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Speaker 1: you don't really have to give up much personal information.

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Speaker 1: It's not asking you for your blood type or anything,

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Speaker 1: or even your social or your I don't even think

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Speaker 1: it asked for your email address. It just asked for

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Speaker 1: like your name and your age. And then you answer

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Speaker 1: these questions, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 16: That's right, it's name, age, You answer the twenty nine questions,

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Speaker 16: and yeah, we don't sell the data. I mean our goal,

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Speaker 16: what we're really building is what we would call an

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Speaker 16: AI health concierge. But basically the longer, the top factor

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Speaker 16: that determines how long you're going to live is how

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Speaker 16: much money you have, and the top one percent live

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Speaker 16: on average fifteen years longer than the bottom one percent.

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Speaker 16: There's a whole bunch of reasons for that, but the

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Speaker 16: top reason is just you have access to better healthcare.

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Speaker 16: So if you're really wealthy of a private doc who

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Speaker 16: can give you preventive health care the way that you

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Speaker 16: want it. So the business model, back to your question,

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Speaker 16: is not to sell the data. It is to say, hey,

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Speaker 16: you know you're going to live to seventy five. The

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Speaker 16: way you're living your life today, we think you can.

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Speaker 16: In the AI thinks you could live to ninety two,

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Speaker 16: and we've trained an AI to help you live to

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Speaker 16: ninety two. We don't want to see you go to

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Speaker 16: seventy five. So that's how we try to make money,

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Speaker 16: and that's what you pay for. You don't pay for

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Speaker 16: the prediction, but you would pay and you'd get a

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Speaker 16: free trial for the AI health concierge.

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Speaker 1: So how do you know if you're successful with this? Like, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is brand new. It's not like you

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Speaker 1: have data to tell like if you're right on these numbers. Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you tell if you're right?

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Speaker 16: Well, we are able to use a whole bunch of

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Speaker 16: existing data to tell us if for right. So we've

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Speaker 16: got actuarial data. We've trained the AI on about twelve

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Speaker 16: hundred longevity studies, and then there's the data that that

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Speaker 16: you input their CDC data, et cetera. And then we've

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Speaker 16: taken data sets from people who we know have died

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01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 16: and we know something about and you can kind of

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Speaker 16: retroactively train the data set and test whether or not

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Speaker 16: your predictions are accurate. So we believe it's the most

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Speaker 16: accurate death date prediction in the world. But what's more

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Speaker 16: important than the prediction of when you're going to die

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01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 16: is can we help you do the things that are

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Speaker 16: going to help you live longer.

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Speaker 5: You know, get the.

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Speaker 16: Cancer screenings, take the supplements, you know, go talk to

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Speaker 16: your doctor about the things that are most likely to

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Speaker 16: kill you, and you know, take action so those things

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Speaker 16: don't get you.

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Speaker 5: That's where we're really focused on. Doing well.

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Speaker 16: I mean, the mission of the business is to help

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Speaker 16: one hundred million people live ten years longer, and so

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Speaker 16: we're very focused on how do we help you do that.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the app death Claw. It's available

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Speaker 1: for iPhone and Android. The website is deathclock dot co.

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Speaker 1: You can find a link to it on my website.

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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV. This is Brent Fransen, the

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Speaker 1: founder of the app. So what are you finding? What

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Speaker 1: are you finding in your data with people that are

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Speaker 1: filling out this information and using this information to determine

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Speaker 1: when they might die?

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Speaker 16: I think so we're finding a couple of things. So

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Speaker 16: one is the concept scares people. So people either love

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Speaker 16: the concept.

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Speaker 5: And they're drawn to it or they hate it.

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Speaker 16: It can be scary to think about death, and I

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Speaker 16: understand that now almost universally, when people go through it,

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Speaker 16: they find it's fun.

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Speaker 5: We've taken a pretty lighthearted approach to it, and so

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Speaker 5: we don't.

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Speaker 1: Really Yeah, you get to save the date card. By

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Speaker 1: the way, at the end, it's like your death date

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Speaker 1: is on a save the date card. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: you know, a little tongue in cheek humor there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a grim reaper flying Okay.

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Speaker 16: I think the thing that I've been surprised with the

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Speaker 16: most is that most people don't really know what they

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01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 16: need to do to live a little bit longer. So

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Speaker 16: we live in this like post Huberman Peter Atier era.

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Speaker 16: We have these health influencers who are talking about a

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Speaker 16: lot of really complicated things like should I be doing

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Speaker 16: something cold plunge every day, or should I be taking

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01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 16: met foreman or should I be getting a full body scan?

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01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 16: And people, I think want to do the right things

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Speaker 16: to stay healthy and live a good and long life,

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Speaker 16: but they don't really know what to do.

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Speaker 5: So we create what's called a longevity plan.

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Speaker 16: But I've just been surprised at how much value there

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Speaker 16: is and helping people cut through some of the noise

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01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 16: and say, hey, okay, for you a forty three year

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01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 16: old male, here's what matters and here's what doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I think this app actually might have pushed me to

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Speaker 1: get one of these heart calcium tests because I was

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Speaker 1: wondering about that and I ended up I think I

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01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: pretty much went I don't know if this was like

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01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind this app, because I

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01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: went through it and I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: this is scary information, Like it's weird. It's information we

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Speaker 1: all know. We know we're gonna die, But to have

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01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: a date is in an age is really like eye

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Speaker 1: opening for something that we all know is going to happen.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I feel I feel just knowing the decade in

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Speaker 16: which you're likely to die. It's not you know, the

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01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 16: math is very simple, even if you just look at

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01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 16: you know, average life expectancy for a male or female

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Speaker 16: in the US. It's very easy to do that math.

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Speaker 16: But there's something jarring about saying like, oh, I'm likely

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Speaker 16: to die in the twenty sixties. And then it's funny

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Speaker 16: you mentioned the calcium scan. That's another one of those things.

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Speaker 16: There's a whole bunch of really basic things that we

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01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 16: can be doing that in that case, it's a CT

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01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 16: scan that looks at calcification of plaque in the heart.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's about three minutes to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was so crazy fast.

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Speaker 16: It's inexpensive, and it can save your life. I mean,

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Speaker 16: you know, I did it recently and I got a

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Speaker 16: score of zero. Okay, that's good. I'm in a good place.

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Speaker 16: But it can save your life. And like, it's kind

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01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 16: of fallen through the cracks and the healthcare system, and

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01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 16: so we've got to be really prove about managing our

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Speaker 16: health journey.

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Speaker 5: We don't. We don't have a healthcare system that's going

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Speaker 5: to do it for us.

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Speaker 3: No, we certainly don't.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, it works really well when you're sick,

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01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: but the preventative stuff is very tricky.

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Speaker 3: It's it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I went to my primary doctor a couple of years

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01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: ago and they're like, hey, you know, why, why did

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01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: you not come in for your physical? I said, well,

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Speaker 1: no one ever told me, and I said, you're an adult,

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01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: We're not going to tell you. They're like, you have

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01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: to make your appointment. And it really like stuck with

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01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: me of like, if you want to be healthy, you

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01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 1: need to be in control of what you do and

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01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: and you know, question everything. And this calcium scan it's

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01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: funny because I talked to like a couple people about it,

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01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: and I talked to my friend about it and it

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Speaker 1: actually found a blockage in his heart, and you know,

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01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: so it's like it was very Anyway, my point is

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01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: we were talking about this stuff and it's like it

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01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: does help. And I said, well, don't understand why everyone

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01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 1: doesn't do this, you know, like why isn't this part

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Speaker 1: of like the system. You know, it depends on insurance

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Speaker 1: and all this, and I guess there's just so much

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Speaker 1: mystery around healthcare and what's included, what's not included, what

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01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: you should do and again and all these people you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I read that book, like the was

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Speaker 1: like four hour Body many years ago, and it's like

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Speaker 1: everything is so complicated. Like these people are taking like

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Speaker 1: a blood test every day of their life. It's like

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Speaker 1: that is not for the average person to be able

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Speaker 1: to do, or these supplements and things. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the average person, I think what it comes down

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01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: to is you're working every day, you're going into a desk,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting down, you're eating fast, and it's it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It is tough to be healthy because you have to

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Speaker 1: make a very concerted effort to do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're trying to simplify it. I totally agree.

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Speaker 16: You know, there's this guy, Brian Johnson who's trying to

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Speaker 16: basically his whole slogan is not dying on which I

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01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 16: find to be ridiculous. But he's dinner at eleven am

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01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 16: so he can sleep better.

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Speaker 3: Or whatever, give me a break book.

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Speaker 16: I've got a wife and kids. I'm not eating dinner

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01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 16: right at eleven am. But there's also a very interesting

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01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 16: post AI moment where I mean a lot of what

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01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 16: we're trying to do is give you a place to

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01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 16: put all of your health data. So if you have

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Speaker 16: any blood tests on a twenty three in me or whatever,

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01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 16: it is just your basic health profile. We should all

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01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 16: have an AI that's trained on any health data that

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Speaker 16: we have and that just sits around twenty four to

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Speaker 16: seven and analyzes our data and tries to make it

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Speaker 16: easy for us to be healthy and live longer. And

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Speaker 16: this is this wasn't possible pre AI. So you know,

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01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 16: taking the data set that is our unique health profile,

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 16: seriously putting it in one place and then having an

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Speaker 16: AI that's trained on it, I think allows all of

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Speaker 16: us to have basically private doc level experience at a

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Speaker 16: fraction of the cost.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: All right, So scary name helpful app deathclock dot Co.

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Speaker 1: Brent Fransen, founder of death Clock, thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you rich all right eighty.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry rich On tech dot tv for the link

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Speaker 1: to that app. Rich On tech dot TV coming up.

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Speaker 1: We're going to open up. The feedback is overflowing. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to read some of the emails, the comments, and

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Speaker 1: the questions that you sent me this week right here

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Speaker 1: on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here talking technology with you, trying to get

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Speaker 1: to the feedbag.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 3: See if there's anything else I should mention before we

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Speaker 3: open up the feedbag. Let's just you know what, let's

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Speaker 3: just get to the feedback.

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Speaker 1: We got so much in the feedback, We're just gonna

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Speaker 1: just gonna open it up. Rodney from Tarzana writes in Hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to use the whisper flow app you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: but our Norton anti virus showed the website as safe.

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Speaker 1: But when we downloaded the app, we got a warning

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Speaker 1: that it was infected with a virus. We quarantined and

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01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 1: deleted it. Any thoughts So I emailed the makers of

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Speaker 1: whisper flow and they did email me back, and they

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Speaker 1: said that some anti virus programs like Norton, Windows Defender

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Speaker 1: and Kesperski are flagging the Windows version as a potential

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01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: threat because the app requires access to your keyboard and

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 1: text boxes. The company says they are working with the

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Speaker 1: anti virus companies to get that fixed.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. Hopefully it's a false alarm there.

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Speaker 1: Bob from Palace Verdes writes in I read your article

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Speaker 1: on AT and t's new device that's meant to bring

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01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 1: back landline service. It's called AT and T Phone Advanced.

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Speaker 1: My mom still has AT and T landline and a

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Speaker 1: house full of wired phones. Many are rotary dial Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. Unfortunately AT and t's device does not support

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Speaker 1: rotary phones. They could have easily added the circuitry, but

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Speaker 1: chose not to. Well, look, I understand there are probably

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Speaker 1: not that many rotary phones out there, and so AT

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Speaker 1: and T this is internet, internet based phone service. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to help people out that don't have landline service,

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Speaker 1: or they're trying to get people off landline service. So

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Speaker 1: I understand that that they didn't put rotary in there,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, come on, how many people? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they know how many people are using rotary? Is how

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Speaker 1: it's got to be like less than a tenth of

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Speaker 1: a percent of people in America using rotary Stoll, But

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: If it's you, I totally understand three people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been nice if AT and T

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01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: could use both cellular and home Wi Fi as a

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Speaker 1: backup option.

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Speaker 3: I think they can.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, specifically, they say not to plug it into your

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Speaker 1: house wiring, which makes it useless for homes like my

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01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: moms with multiple wired phones. AT and T could have

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Speaker 1: offered an installed device to properly disconnect the old feed

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Speaker 1: and hook this up safely. Oh well, not usable for

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Speaker 1: my mom. But I enjoyed your article and I always

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Speaker 1: enjoy your newsletter. Well, Bob, one thing is clear that

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Speaker 1: is that service is not for your mom's house. Melissa

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Speaker 1: from Kistaic writes in I love receiving your newsletter and

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01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 1: listening to you on KFI on Saturdays. You explain things

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01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: in such an easy to understand way and have such

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Speaker 1: a wealth of technoledge. Thank you for all you do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice part, now what I like to keep

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01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: the apps on my iPhone organized, but I always have

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01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: such a difficult time moving them from one page to another.

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Speaker 1: I understand if you hold down the app and select

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Speaker 1: edit home screen, but when I try to move the

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Speaker 1: app to the edge, sometimes it moves easily, other times

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01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: it's impossible. Is there an easier way to do this

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Speaker 1: or am I doing something wrong? No, Melissa, I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this for seventeen years. It never gets easier. Rearranging

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Speaker 1: iPhone homescreen icons is horrendous. Huh horrendous. Apparently that's going

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Speaker 1: to be fixed with iOS nineteen, but I'm not kidding

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Speaker 1: my phone. I don't even arrange it because I can't

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Speaker 1: I try to move one thing. I am so scared

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Speaker 1: to put a widget on my iPhone home screen because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess up my whole thing that I've worked

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Speaker 1: so many years to get perfected.

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Speaker 3: I won't even try a new widget. It's that bad.

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Speaker 1: Like Apple needs a way to save your home screen

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Speaker 1: so you can try a new one and then go

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Speaker 1: back to it if you mess something up. Joseph from

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01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: Ellisville writes in can I listen to my iPod by

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Speaker 1: using a wireless adapter for it?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Twelve South Airfly perfect for this.

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01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: You plug it in, creates a Bluetooth connection, allows you

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Speaker 1: to pair any Bluetooth headphones twelve South Airfly.

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Speaker 3: Let's see here what else?

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Speaker 1: Olivia writes in, hey, rich on tech, I recently came

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Speaker 1: across a website called card cash. You purchased gift cards

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Speaker 1: at a discounted price.

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Speaker 3: Is it true? Have you tried it?

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to purchase a decent amount for an upcoming trip,

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Speaker 1: but I've not heard about this. Please let me know.

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Speaker 1: These types of sites are legit. You have to be

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Speaker 1: very careful. There's so many scams around gift cards. Make

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Speaker 1: sure it's a reputable site. I have not tried card cash.

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Speaker 1: I looked up some reviews, kind of pros, kind of

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Speaker 1: prop some pros, some cons. I have tried a website

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Speaker 1: called raise dot com, and I think they change the

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Speaker 1: name of their gift card site so it's no longer Raised.

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Speaker 3: I think it's called g.

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Speaker 1: What is it gcx gcx gcx dot raise dot com.

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Speaker 3: I have tried that one. It is legit. Just be

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Speaker 3: very careful.

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Speaker 1: I'd buy small transactions before you buy a lot of

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Speaker 1: big ones. Let's see here. Oh my gosh, so many emails.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this one real quick. Judy from California writes

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Speaker 1: in Hey, Rich, I've never emailed you, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure who to trust. I'm not very tech savvy. I'm

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01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: a retired senior. I'm getting more wary as time goes by.

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01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm curious if this anti theft card being touted on

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Speaker 1: Facebook really works. They say RFID wallets and card sleeves

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Speaker 1: are no match for portable scanners the new age pickpocketers use.

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Speaker 1: I would appreciate your opinion. I disagree. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you need it. I think that credit cards have a

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Speaker 1: lot of security built into them. They're using one time codes.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any major report of someone's credit

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Speaker 1: card number being swiped with an RFID scanner. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think it happens, honestly, I think that it could

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Speaker 1: happen theoretically. I don't think it's a major issue. If

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Speaker 1: you want to get one of these sleeves, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I would not spend a lot of money on it.

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Speaker 1: Go on Amazon. Type in RFID sleeve. My wallet has

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Speaker 1: RFID blocking. If you have a metal credit card, that

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Speaker 1: will be enough to mess it up. You could even

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Speaker 1: use a little piece of tinfoil. Well, but what are

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Speaker 1: they gonna get. They're gonna get an encrypted card number

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Speaker 1: that only works once, and they're not even able to

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Speaker 1: decrypt it.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's that big of a deal.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of companies are capitalizing on

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Speaker 1: that advertising right now.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for this episode.

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Speaker 1: You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website,

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot tv. Find me on social media

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Speaker 1: at rich on tech. Thanks so much for listening. My

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Speaker 1: name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you real

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Speaker 1: soon