WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Key Pats Matchups 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:16.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.599 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:31.840 Star in Frisco. Stay here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.839 and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys inside the 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.599 SWBC Mortgage Studio. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones on 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.160 this Thursday, as the Cowboys get back to practice, getting 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.280 set for those new England Patriots. Mickey Spagnola to my right, 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.080 the Great Everson Walls joining us once again this week 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.840 in studio and back by popular demand once again Lindsay 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:02.440 Podcast Live. But what uh, I'm so glad to be 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.080 with you guys. Frightens my day. I've brought my coat. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.399 If you're not watching, h I am wearing a big 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.080 furry camo coat so you can't technically see it. She's 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.560 the only one that dressed appropriately for the studio. Nice 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.560 box in here. I'm not gonna lie. I don't think 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.720 that thermostat works over it doesn't. It doesn't. We'll take 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.399 it in working on it and it's you know, I 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.920 turned it up again? Yes, Okay, now you know why 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:32.160 we started eleven the thermostatu. He's always got something ever 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.160 so or a walk off and it takes too long. Yeah, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.399 you learn anything in that walk off? I did, Garrett? 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.200 Would you learn? I learned that Connor Williams did surprisingly 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:46.240 well in practice after having his knee scoped only a 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.040 week and a half ago. It's wild and that if 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.600 he has another good day to day and tomorrow, he's 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.600 your starting left guard. So as long as he's healthy, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.560 get his job. He's healthy enough to function in the 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.920 game and play well. If he has another good day 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.720 or two, he's your starting left guard. What you think 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:11.400 about this, bags, I have to say, you know, I 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.480 love this offensive line and I think Connor is still 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.519 learning his craft. I agree with that. I think that 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.280 this NFL game is tough, and especially down in the pits, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:29.240 and this guy's really learning a lesson. Hopefully his peers, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.720 you know, the Fredericks and the Martins and the and 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.560 the Smiths would have shown him. You know, this is 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.320 how the professional way to handle this, because right now, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.960 if you're going to attack that offensive line, then they 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.600 seem to always try to attack the young kid, right 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.200 and he's been learning a big lesson this year. Yeah. No, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.720 I think he learned even bigger lesson last year. But 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.120 I thought when he came back after his injury last year, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.200 he played much better than he did prior to that. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.280 And now he's a little stronger, a little bigger, and 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.480 he's no longer twenty one years old. Yeah. Yeah, imagine 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.880 being twenty one years old and going into that pit 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.720 with grown men, you know, well, when you could have 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.440 been playing another year of college. Yeah, that's true, and 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.600 he was young coming out. But Lenz, I mean, I 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.680 think part of it's the expectation too on the offensive line, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.160 because how many guys have they had step in right 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:28.120 away right away, but make the Pro Bowl, make all pros, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.240 Zack Martin, those guys they were all first round picks too. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.320 It's hard to live up to that. And when they 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.520 signed him, I'm sure he felt that pressure. I mean, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.680 you know, he wasn't just crying because he was happy, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.119 you know, we're doing the draft. I'm sure he was crying, like, man, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.720 these guys are they're the best. At that time, they 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.480 were the best unit overall in the league. I don't 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.280 know if that's the best unit now, but at that time, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.200 they were the best unit. Who would you call the 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:57.000 best unit right now? Offensive line? I just think maybe 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.360 this offensive line is changed. I mean sometimes I get 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.040 so hung up on Zeke's numbers and penning that on them. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.160 But then when it comes to pass blocking and the 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.440 way Dak is hanging out back there, maybe they've I 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.720 don't know how much evolving that means they've done ever since. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.719 Like no, most offensive linemen, they love to go forward. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.960 That's their thing that they're already down there, they're already 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.800 leaning forward. I mean, it's so difficult to go from, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.640 you know, being in that position and then all of 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.599 a sudden, now you've got to lift all of that weight, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.039 all that torso up and get back and you've got 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.760 this guy leaning forward, will coming that you coming around 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.640 the end, and he's getting the sack and two point 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.320 eight seconds like d Law. You know, that's tough for 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.800 a big man to do. But they seem to be 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.640 better at pass blocking than they are well I'm blocking, yeah, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.080 And you know, I don't know how that comes about. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.279 I know that it's it was tough going up against 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.480 those Vikings. That was a raw, mean group of deepness 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.400 in line. Right that would have been the first time 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.640 I've seen, and they played it pretty straight. It's not 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.440 like they overst it's anything, and they gave the Cowboys trouble. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.760 I think there's two games that have been like that 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.600 this year, the Minnesota game and the New Orleans game 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.200 that Saints front right was really active against him. Lenz 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.320 made a great point because Travis Frederick said yesterday, you 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.200 gotta look at the whole body of work the game 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.880 last week. They're not where they want to be, necessarily 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.800 in the run game, even though I think teams are 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.719 trying to do some extra stuff to stop them. Well 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.440 Detroit did, but when you look at five hundred and 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.560 nine total yards, you got to look at the whole 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.440 thing and say, it's a pretty good day for us blocking. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.039 And he's still only been sacked twelve times as opposed 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:42.839 to honestly everything that says everything. There were so many 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.480 times last year six DAC was on the ground, and 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.560 so many I don't want to say so many, but 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:53.040 few of his fumbles just came from getting absolutely lasted, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.119 pummeled and blasts. Let's not forget the Jets game where 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.600 he just got I really thought they should have thrown 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.880 at least two flags on the d lineman for just 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.400 pummeling him into the ground after he's thrown the ball. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.760 So we're talking about the sacks not you can't even 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.280 calculate the hits, right. I mean when I say hits, 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:17.440 I mean slams, crashes, Yeah, collisions, you know it. I 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.359 know officials are trying to get the call right, but 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.320 it kind of reminds me of Lebron or Shack, Like 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:28.279 I'm not calling anything. He's an unusual quarterback, I feel 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:33.040 saw and that's why where he is right and it's say, yeah, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.560 Dak's taking a ton of huge hits. Yeah, I got 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.479 to say. And has he missed the game? He is not. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.919 Has he missed the play? He's missed maybe a couple. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:45.400 He went into the tent he was heated, Yes he did. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.800 He did not want to go in. That's the first 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.760 one I've seen him. Like, we look at this world now, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.360 so many things going on with politics, not just so 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.960 much stuff going on, And to me, uh, I guess 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:04.520 I'm just the old dude. But well, when you think 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.400 of where the city has come, where the Dallas Cowboys 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.920 have come as an organization, you have a young black 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.240 man who is the face of the Dallas Cowboys. I 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.840 played here, Okay, that is something that I never really 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.440 thought i'd see to where, of course, you see a 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.440 guy playing quarterback. We had Reggie Caller who came in 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.480 and one of the best athletes you ever wanted to 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.320 see on a basketball court, football field. He was just amazing. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.239 But he was not built the way Dak is builds. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.720 And now don't mean physically, I mean inside. You know, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.280 his soul, his his his his character, all of that. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.880 You know, to have this kid as the face of 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.240 the Dallas Cowboys, that's something that you never would have 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.440 thought of even ten years ago. And the way he's 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.880 handling it is very unique because Jerry hadn't paid him. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.480 Everybody's gotten paid, not just Jerry, the entire league ones paid. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.560 Wentz has his money. Dak's back get kicking buck off. Yeah, 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.120 everybody's got the money. They're playing like Colap. He hadn't 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.960 gotten his money and he's playing amazing. And so now 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.960 you have, you know, Jerry, it seems like the only 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.360 person that doesn't realize that Dak is the face of 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:25.239 this organization. He's getting more money and endorsements than his salary. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:30.800 I'm pretty sure of that number one new one basis, 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.360 what two million this year or something like that. Yeah, ments, yeah, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.200 a new one. I didn't know he was doing that 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.280 sleep number Mattress. Yeah, you cannot watch a game without 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.200 at leasting two dark commercials. During the commercials, at least two. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.760 He's everywhere. So so so then okay, let's say this 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.520 year goes on. Let's say we have this year and 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.920 all of a sudden, we we make the first round playoffs, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.760 lose whatever, or you know, don't even make it. God 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:00.840 for bit uh and Dak continues to play well, so 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.600 you know it was the money. Yeahually everybody knows. Everybody's 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.640 paying him, right, endorsements, everybody's paying him. But Jerry, maybe 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.760 that's why he's not in a hurry to sign. He's 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.440 just gonna keep holding up for more. That's crazy. He's 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.679 making all this other stuff on the side. It'sn't the narrative. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.640 I got to hear that narrative. I mean, why why 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.080 don't you just go ahead and pay the guy? He 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.960 is get being paid by everyone he and when he's 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.400 on the commercials. It's not like they've got some dummy uniform. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.559 You know, this is the Dallas Cowboys this is our gear, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:37.040 he's our guy, So you would think that the it's 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.160 it's a foregone conclusion that you're going to pay him. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.640 Just go ahead and name said it's been the small 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.880 I mean, I was one of those who put my 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.840 name out there and said it's gonna get done before 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.559 the season starts. I thought I was gonna get done 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.040 during training camp. I was wrong. And but they've said 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.080 over and over it's the littlest things. And I would 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.599 just love to be a fly on the wall to 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.240 find out what is it the smallest thing that you 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.120 guys can't get this done. I mean, they keep saying 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.840 it's the smallest thing. I keep hearing that he turned 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:07.600 down thirty. Is that true? That's what I mean. There's 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:13.400 been so many different things. He's asking for forty and 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.959 they want to give him thirty, and they want to 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.520 give him thirty or you know, and maybe that's where 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.520 the new commercial came from. And you know how it is. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.680 It's about the guaranteed money too. So you can make 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.920 forty million a year, but if only twenty seven and 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.960 a half is guaranteed like these other guys got, then 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.600 you know that's that's where it's at. So, and there's 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.840 been other deals that have gotten done with other other 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.840 quarterbacks that have probably shifted the market and all that. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.680 But yeah, I mean I think he's betting on himself 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.040 to some degree, Mick, I don't know if he's betting 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.720 on himself. I think they look for the pot at 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 the end of the rainbow. Well, he could have he 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.640 could have probably settled for another deal, right while his 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.800 guys could have yeah, the same thing. Yeah, right, yeah, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.240 but yeah, it's it's hard, You're right everything. I think 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.160 at some point it's coneclusion. He's the guy. I know 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.319 there's talk he might get franchise. I don't know. I 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.240 think they could definitely come to an agreement before it 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.760 comes down. And then I heard he's thinking, Okay, pay 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.319 Coop first, let's make sure we show up some of 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.160 the guys that I'm gonna be throwing too. Yeah. I 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.439 heard that as well. So hopefully that that that's a 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.360 very noble way to go. Hopefully that's the way he's 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.920 going right now. Yeah, anything on the subject we started 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.959 with with Connor Williams, what else stands out to you 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.200 about the injury report for Dallas Well Collins will not 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.640 practice again today? Oh, boy, and you know, they're still optimistic. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.880 But again, I think he has to do something more 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.400 than what he's been doing to be able to say, Okay, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.040 he can play on Sunday. I think they were pretty 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.079 hopeful that he could. He basically resprained the MCL in 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.800 his right knee that he hurt before, so there was 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.320 some thought after the game that well, maybe it's not 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.520 as serious as it was, or maybe, you know, because 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.840 of who he is, he can play through it. But 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.720 I would imagine he's got to do a little something 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.840 before they put him out there. So yeah, you keep 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.280 an eye on that one. Joe Thomas is still ill, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.839 so he's not practicing in today either. The good news 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.800 is a Zamari was out there and he hasn't been 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.160 out there on Wednesdays in the last couple of weeks. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.280 Same thing for Zach Martin was out there at limited 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.920 but out there, so that's an improvement too. So coop 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:26.320 coop coop was full. Yeah, so that's encouraging because he's 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.800 been fighting through stuff the last couple of games. They 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.720 managed him a little bit this game, Yeah, exactly, And 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.200 so that's why, ever since I'm wondering, this is my 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.000 own thoughts. Tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.720 But the Cowboys now are twofold. I mean, if you 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.439 take away the past, you have Zeke, but most teams 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.640 have been focused. I mean, it's been four years, three 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.760 years of Ezekiel Elliott, so we're not seeing much of 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.200 him in year four. Obviously, my question is which way 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.520 or the Patriots gonna go. They're gonna try to take 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.080 away the downfield attack because in that case, you need 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.040 a Marie out there a lot more than just three catches. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.120 I promise you Belichick is going to go against the 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.679 run first. He's going to He's gonna play the run first. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.480 Look for the Cowboys to come out of heavy run. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.040 And don't don't don't mistake yourself. Guy, It's not just 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.520 about the system with Belichick. It's going to be about 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.840 the matchups here in this game. You know you're talking 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.680 about Cooper. Good to hear the Cooper is doing well, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.480 because these dbs are gonna be in his face now 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.200 all night long. It's gonna be just like you know, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.079 THEVA Giants in ninety. You're gonna have a bunch of 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.920 athletic guys out there, and it's gonna be a matchup 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.280 problem for the Cowboys, and that's why Belichick is so 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.480 insistent in his press conferences that his players need to 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.920 be ready because you know, you can jam Cooper all 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.280 you want. If this guy's one hundred percent, he can 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.160 embarrass you. You know. And everyone knows the history of 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.840 Cobb and how well he's done throughout the entire his 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.040 entire career. So this is going to be an amazing 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:54.600 matchup games. The systems are going to collide, the game 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.360 plans are going to collide, but when it comes to 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.400 the matchups one on one, that's going to be the 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.680 key to winning this game. That's up and down the line, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.360 offensive lineman, defensive lineman, DB's wide receivers. This is going 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.360 to be a straight up old school game to it. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.160 The best athlete is going to win this game. You know, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.000 the more I keep looking at this, the more I 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.520 agree with you that they they work to take away 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.640 the run because he has so much confidence in his 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.360 corners and safeties to cover that they think, Okay, I 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.720 don't need to play cover too, I'm in man with 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.240 single safety high. Let's go play Sometimes no safety in 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.360 the middle, and they're blitzing, and they're coming at Gero 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.800 coverage and they're gonna just say, Okay, if we need 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.040 to overload to stop the run, that's what we're gonna do. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.360 But I trust those guys on the back end. That's 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.880 that's kind of the way they've been playing it. That's interesting, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.800 and you're right they I mean, they have Pro Bowl 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.040 caliber players over the secondary. But Lindsay brought up a 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.800 good point because it's at some point you've seen these 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.960 last two games, all right, you want to stack the box, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.480 or you want to commit a lot of guys to 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.040 the line of scrimmage with run blitzing whatever, we can 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.120 dice you up doing that. If they go that route, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.440 that show that they can they can capitalize. But you 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.840 have to you have to in those cases. You have 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.440 to be able to self evaluate. I gotta know what 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:13.440 my guys that's right, right, that's right, And a job 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.760 of self evaluating right now, Mike Zimmer did. He said, Okay, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.760 my guy's in the back end can hold up right, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.920 and we're going to cause you trouble upfront. But again, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.320 you have to self I learned that from Jimmy Johnson 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.280 that self evaluable. Never her to use that way. But 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.320 that's was the most important thing. I can't fool myself 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.600 and say, yeah, my guy can do that when you 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.040 know deep down and you can't do that. I've always said, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.240 you know when you when your guy, you know you're 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.760 six two and you run a four seven forty at 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.880 your college. Yeah, I realize that it's all about knowing 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.640 your limitations. And I always say this, if you know 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.800 your limitations, then you're a stronger player because you won't 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.640 try something that you know you cannot do. You will 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.480 play within yourself, regardless of the emotional situations or what's 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.000 going on in the field. You will play within yourself. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.320 And as a coach, you have to know how good 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.080 your players are and what they can handle on the 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.680 back end. That's why Bill's gonna He is so adamant 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.280 with his defense about how good this team is, how 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.760 potentially good this cowboy team is. And that's why you know, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.280 in that NFC title game in ninety three, when he 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.160 supposedly made this bold prediction that they were going to 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.880 beat the forty nine ers, right, well, he knew his team. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.480 It wasn't like he was trying to brag or give 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.160 him a false sense of confidence. He knew that was 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.200 not That confidence was not false. No, those guys he 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.840 knew they were confident. Yeah, he knew they were cocky. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.160 He knew they were going to go in and win. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.120 I think that was incentive for him, wasn't it. No, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.480 that one was here? Okay, the next one they lost 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.040 was in the first two. So the first one was 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.800 in San Francisco, and then the second one, when he 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.280 was confident, was here, and then the third one was 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.400 out there. Yeah, both of them out there in a 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.960 mud bath. You gotta be confident, but you gotta be 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.760 honest about what your strengths and weaknesses are as coaches 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.520 and players. Let's take our first break. We've got lendsy 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.960 monitoring periscope, so check that out. Questions coming in from y'all, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.240 I see them, chime in. We'll get to that next 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.879 when we come back and continue breaking down, maybe flipping around, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.399 talk about the Cowboys defense next on Talking Cowboys. 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It might need, it might need 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.480 a hide from y'all. It's gonna be a little brisk, 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.800 It'll be perfect football weather out there at Tostitos Championship 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:07.200 Plaza at the Star Welcome back inside the swbs see 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:12.000 Mortgage Studio, Rob Mickey Lindsay and the great Everson Walls Lens. 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.800 What's popping off on periscope? Yes, a question here that 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.320 I've wanted to talk about. Actually, I can't wait for 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.720 you guys to hear it. Patriots pride themselves on special teams. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.760 How big of an impact is this going to be 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.800 this week? When you think about their special teams unit 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:33.160 and the Cowboys who have had two touchdowns? I'm sorry, 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.800 that might that might be the most lopsided. I'm sorry, 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:40.200 I'm laughing. Go in, go in, vic Fellas. I mean, 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.360 this could be the deciding teams have not been good. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.080 Can somebody tell me the special team coaches name, We're 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.440 not going to do that. He's gotta be accountable, He's 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.919