1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Stay here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys inside the 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studio. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones on 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: this Thursday, as the Cowboys get back to practice, getting 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: set for those new England Patriots. Mickey Spagnola to my right, 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: the Great Everson Walls joining us once again this week 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: in studio and back by popular demand once again Lindsay 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Podcast Live. But what uh, I'm so glad to be 12 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: with you guys. Frightens my day. I've brought my coat. 13 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: If you're not watching, h I am wearing a big 14 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: furry camo coat so you can't technically see it. She's 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: the only one that dressed appropriately for the studio. Nice 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: box in here. I'm not gonna lie. I don't think 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: that thermostat works over it doesn't. It doesn't. We'll take 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: it in working on it and it's you know, I 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: turned it up again? Yes, Okay, now you know why 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: we started eleven the thermostatu. He's always got something ever 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: so or a walk off and it takes too long. Yeah, 22 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: you learn anything in that walk off? I did, Garrett? 23 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: Would you learn? I learned that Connor Williams did surprisingly 24 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: well in practice after having his knee scoped only a 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: week and a half ago. It's wild and that if 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: he has another good day to day and tomorrow, he's 27 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: your starting left guard. So as long as he's healthy, 28 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: get his job. He's healthy enough to function in the 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: game and play well. If he has another good day 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: or two, he's your starting left guard. What you think 31 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: about this, bags, I have to say, you know, I 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: love this offensive line and I think Connor is still 33 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: learning his craft. I agree with that. I think that 34 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: this NFL game is tough, and especially down in the pits, 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: and this guy's really learning a lesson. Hopefully his peers, 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, the Fredericks and the Martins and the and 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: the Smiths would have shown him. You know, this is 38 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: how the professional way to handle this, because right now, 39 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to attack that offensive line, then they 40 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: seem to always try to attack the young kid, right 41 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and he's been learning a big lesson this year. Yeah. No, 42 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I think he learned even bigger lesson last year. But 43 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought when he came back after his injury last year, 44 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: he played much better than he did prior to that. 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: And now he's a little stronger, a little bigger, and 46 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: he's no longer twenty one years old. Yeah. Yeah, imagine 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: being twenty one years old and going into that pit 48 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: with grown men, you know, well, when you could have 49 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: been playing another year of college. Yeah, that's true, and 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: he was young coming out. But Lenz, I mean, I 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: think part of it's the expectation too on the offensive line, 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: because how many guys have they had step in right 53 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: away right away, but make the Pro Bowl, make all pros, 54 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: Zack Martin, those guys they were all first round picks too. 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: It's hard to live up to that. And when they 56 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: signed him, I'm sure he felt that pressure. I mean, 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't just crying because he was happy, 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, we're doing the draft. I'm sure he was crying, like, man, 59 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: these guys are they're the best. At that time, they 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: were the best unit overall in the league. I don't 61 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: know if that's the best unit now, but at that time, 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: they were the best unit. Who would you call the 63 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: best unit right now? Offensive line? I just think maybe 64 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: this offensive line is changed. I mean sometimes I get 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: so hung up on Zeke's numbers and penning that on them. 66 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: But then when it comes to pass blocking and the 67 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: way Dak is hanging out back there, maybe they've I 68 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: don't know how much evolving that means they've done ever since. 69 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Like no, most offensive linemen, they love to go forward. 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: That's their thing that they're already down there, they're already 71 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: leaning forward. I mean, it's so difficult to go from, 72 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, being in that position and then all of 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: a sudden, now you've got to lift all of that weight, 74 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: all that torso up and get back and you've got 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: this guy leaning forward, will coming that you coming around 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: the end, and he's getting the sack and two point 77 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: eight seconds like d Law. You know, that's tough for 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: a big man to do. But they seem to be 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: better at pass blocking than they are well I'm blocking, yeah, 80 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how that comes about. 81 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: I know that it's it was tough going up against 82 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: those Vikings. That was a raw, mean group of deepness 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: in line. Right that would have been the first time 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I've seen, and they played it pretty straight. It's not 85 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: like they overst it's anything, and they gave the Cowboys trouble. 86 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: I think there's two games that have been like that 87 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: this year, the Minnesota game and the New Orleans game 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that Saints front right was really active against him. Lenz 89 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: made a great point because Travis Frederick said yesterday, you 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: gotta look at the whole body of work the game 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: last week. They're not where they want to be, necessarily 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: in the run game, even though I think teams are 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: trying to do some extra stuff to stop them. Well 94 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Detroit did, but when you look at five hundred and 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: nine total yards, you got to look at the whole 96 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: thing and say, it's a pretty good day for us blocking. 97 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: And he's still only been sacked twelve times as opposed 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: to honestly everything that says everything. There were so many 99 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: times last year six DAC was on the ground, and 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: so many I don't want to say so many, but 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: few of his fumbles just came from getting absolutely lasted, 102 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 1: pummeled and blasts. Let's not forget the Jets game where 103 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: he just got I really thought they should have thrown 104 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: at least two flags on the d lineman for just 105 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: pummeling him into the ground after he's thrown the ball. 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: So we're talking about the sacks not you can't even 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: calculate the hits, right. I mean when I say hits, 108 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean slams, crashes, Yeah, collisions, you know it. I 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: know officials are trying to get the call right, but 110 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of Lebron or Shack, Like 111 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: I'm not calling anything. He's an unusual quarterback, I feel 112 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: saw and that's why where he is right and it's say, yeah, 113 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Dak's taking a ton of huge hits. Yeah, I got 114 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: to say. And has he missed the game? He is not. 115 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: Has he missed the play? He's missed maybe a couple. 116 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: He went into the tent he was heated, Yes he did. 117 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: He did not want to go in. That's the first 118 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: one I've seen him. Like, we look at this world now, 119 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: so many things going on with politics, not just so 120 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: much stuff going on, And to me, uh, I guess 121 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm just the old dude. But well, when you think 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: of where the city has come, where the Dallas Cowboys 123 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: have come as an organization, you have a young black 124 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: man who is the face of the Dallas Cowboys. I 125 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: played here, Okay, that is something that I never really 126 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: thought i'd see to where, of course, you see a 127 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: guy playing quarterback. We had Reggie Caller who came in 128 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and one of the best athletes you ever wanted to 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: see on a basketball court, football field. He was just amazing. 130 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: But he was not built the way Dak is builds. 131 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: And now don't mean physically, I mean inside. You know, 132 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: his soul, his his his his character, all of that. 133 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, to have this kid as the face of 134 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, that's something that you never would have 135 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: thought of even ten years ago. And the way he's 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: handling it is very unique because Jerry hadn't paid him. 137 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's gotten paid, not just Jerry, the entire league ones paid. 138 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Wentz has his money. Dak's back get kicking buck off. Yeah, 139 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: everybody's got the money. They're playing like Colap. He hadn't 140 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: gotten his money and he's playing amazing. And so now 141 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: you have, you know, Jerry, it seems like the only 142 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: person that doesn't realize that Dak is the face of 143 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: this organization. He's getting more money and endorsements than his salary. 144 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure of that number one new one basis, 145 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: what two million this year or something like that. Yeah, ments, yeah, 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: a new one. I didn't know he was doing that 147 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: sleep number Mattress. Yeah, you cannot watch a game without 148 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: at leasting two dark commercials. During the commercials, at least two. 149 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: He's everywhere. So so so then okay, let's say this 150 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: year goes on. Let's say we have this year and 151 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we we make the first round playoffs, 152 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: lose whatever, or you know, don't even make it. God 153 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: for bit uh and Dak continues to play well, so 154 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: you know it was the money. Yeahually everybody knows. Everybody's 155 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: paying him, right, endorsements, everybody's paying him. But Jerry, maybe 156 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: that's why he's not in a hurry to sign. He's 157 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: just gonna keep holding up for more. That's crazy. He's 158 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: making all this other stuff on the side. It'sn't the narrative. 159 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I got to hear that narrative. I mean, why why 160 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: don't you just go ahead and pay the guy? He 161 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: is get being paid by everyone he and when he's 162 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: on the commercials. It's not like they've got some dummy uniform. 163 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: You know, this is the Dallas Cowboys this is our gear, 164 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: he's our guy, So you would think that the it's 165 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion that you're going to pay him. 166 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and name said it's been the small 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I was one of those who put my 168 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: name out there and said it's gonna get done before 169 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: the season starts. I thought I was gonna get done 170 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: during training camp. I was wrong. And but they've said 171 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: over and over it's the littlest things. And I would 172 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: just love to be a fly on the wall to 173 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: find out what is it the smallest thing that you 174 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: guys can't get this done. I mean, they keep saying 175 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: it's the smallest thing. I keep hearing that he turned 176 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: down thirty. Is that true? That's what I mean. There's 177 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: been so many different things. He's asking for forty and 178 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: they want to give him thirty, and they want to 179 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: give him thirty or you know, and maybe that's where 180 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: the new commercial came from. And you know how it is. 181 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: It's about the guaranteed money too. So you can make 182 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: forty million a year, but if only twenty seven and 183 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: a half is guaranteed like these other guys got, then 184 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: you know that's that's where it's at. So, and there's 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: been other deals that have gotten done with other other 186 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have probably shifted the market and all that. 187 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think he's betting on himself 188 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: to some degree, Mick, I don't know if he's betting 189 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: on himself. I think they look for the pot at 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: the end of the rainbow. Well, he could have he 191 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: could have probably settled for another deal, right while his 192 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: guys could have yeah, the same thing. Yeah, right, yeah, 193 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's hard, You're right everything. I think 194 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: at some point it's coneclusion. He's the guy. I know 195 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: there's talk he might get franchise. I don't know. I 196 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: think they could definitely come to an agreement before it 197 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: comes down. And then I heard he's thinking, Okay, pay 198 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: Coop first, let's make sure we show up some of 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: the guys that I'm gonna be throwing too. Yeah. I 200 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: heard that as well. So hopefully that that that's a 201 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: very noble way to go. Hopefully that's the way he's 202 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: going right now. Yeah, anything on the subject we started 203 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: with with Connor Williams, what else stands out to you 204 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: about the injury report for Dallas Well Collins will not 205 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: practice again today? Oh, boy, and you know, they're still optimistic. 206 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: But again, I think he has to do something more 207 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: than what he's been doing to be able to say, Okay, 208 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: he can play on Sunday. I think they were pretty 209 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: hopeful that he could. He basically resprained the MCL in 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: his right knee that he hurt before, so there was 211 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: some thought after the game that well, maybe it's not 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: as serious as it was, or maybe, you know, because 213 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: of who he is, he can play through it. But 214 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's got to do a little something 215 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: before they put him out there. So yeah, you keep 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: an eye on that one. Joe Thomas is still ill, 217 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: so he's not practicing in today either. The good news 218 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: is a Zamari was out there and he hasn't been 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: out there on Wednesdays in the last couple of weeks. 220 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Same thing for Zach Martin was out there at limited 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: but out there, so that's an improvement too. So coop 222 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: coop coop was full. Yeah, so that's encouraging because he's 223 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: been fighting through stuff the last couple of games. They 224 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: managed him a little bit this game, Yeah, exactly, And 225 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: so that's why, ever since I'm wondering, this is my 226 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: own thoughts. Tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. 227 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys now are twofold. I mean, if you 228 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: take away the past, you have Zeke, but most teams 229 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: have been focused. I mean, it's been four years, three 230 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: years of Ezekiel Elliott, so we're not seeing much of 231 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: him in year four. Obviously, my question is which way 232 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: or the Patriots gonna go. They're gonna try to take 233 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: away the downfield attack because in that case, you need 234 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: a Marie out there a lot more than just three catches. 235 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: I promise you Belichick is going to go against the 236 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: run first. He's going to He's gonna play the run first. 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Look for the Cowboys to come out of heavy run. 238 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: And don't don't don't mistake yourself. Guy, It's not just 239 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: about the system with Belichick. It's going to be about 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: the matchups here in this game. You know you're talking 241 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: about Cooper. Good to hear the Cooper is doing well, 242 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: because these dbs are gonna be in his face now 243 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: all night long. It's gonna be just like you know, 244 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: THEVA Giants in ninety. You're gonna have a bunch of 245 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: athletic guys out there, and it's gonna be a matchup 246 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: problem for the Cowboys, and that's why Belichick is so 247 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: insistent in his press conferences that his players need to 248 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: be ready because you know, you can jam Cooper all 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: you want. If this guy's one hundred percent, he can 250 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: embarrass you. You know. And everyone knows the history of 251 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: Cobb and how well he's done throughout the entire his 252 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: entire career. So this is going to be an amazing 253 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: matchup games. The systems are going to collide, the game 254 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: plans are going to collide, but when it comes to 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: the matchups one on one, that's going to be the 256 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: key to winning this game. That's up and down the line, 257 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, defensive lineman, DB's wide receivers. This is going 258 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: to be a straight up old school game to it. 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: The best athlete is going to win this game. You know, 260 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the more I keep looking at this, the more I 261 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: agree with you that they they work to take away 262 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: the run because he has so much confidence in his 263 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: corners and safeties to cover that they think, Okay, I 264 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: don't need to play cover too, I'm in man with 265 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: single safety high. Let's go play Sometimes no safety in 266 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: the middle, and they're blitzing, and they're coming at Gero 267 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: coverage and they're gonna just say, Okay, if we need 268 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to overload to stop the run, that's what we're gonna do. 269 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: But I trust those guys on the back end. That's 270 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of the way they've been playing it. That's interesting, 271 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and you're right they I mean, they have Pro Bowl 272 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: caliber players over the secondary. But Lindsay brought up a 273 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: good point because it's at some point you've seen these 274 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: last two games, all right, you want to stack the box, 275 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: or you want to commit a lot of guys to 276 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage with run blitzing whatever, we can 277 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: dice you up doing that. If they go that route, 278 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: that show that they can they can capitalize. But you 279 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: have to you have to in those cases. You have 280 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: to be able to self evaluate. I gotta know what 281 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: my guys that's right, right, that's right, And a job 282 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: of self evaluating right now, Mike Zimmer did. He said, Okay, 283 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: my guy's in the back end can hold up right, 284 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: and we're going to cause you trouble upfront. But again, 285 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: you have to self I learned that from Jimmy Johnson 286 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: that self evaluable. Never her to use that way. But 287 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that's was the most important thing. I can't fool myself 288 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, my guy can do that when you 289 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: know deep down and you can't do that. I've always said, 290 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you know when you when your guy, you know you're 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: six two and you run a four seven forty at 292 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: your college. Yeah, I realize that it's all about knowing 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: your limitations. And I always say this, if you know 294 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: your limitations, then you're a stronger player because you won't 295 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: try something that you know you cannot do. You will 296 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: play within yourself, regardless of the emotional situations or what's 297 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: going on in the field. You will play within yourself. 298 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: And as a coach, you have to know how good 299 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: your players are and what they can handle on the 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: back end. That's why Bill's gonna He is so adamant 301 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: with his defense about how good this team is, how 302 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: potentially good this cowboy team is. And that's why you know, 303 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: in that NFC title game in ninety three, when he 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: supposedly made this bold prediction that they were going to 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: beat the forty nine ers, right, well, he knew his team. 306 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was trying to brag or give 307 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: him a false sense of confidence. He knew that was 308 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: not That confidence was not false. No, those guys he 309 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: knew they were confident. Yeah, he knew they were cocky. 310 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: He knew they were going to go in and win. 311 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that was incentive for him, wasn't it. No, 312 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: that one was here? Okay, the next one they lost 313 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: was in the first two. So the first one was 314 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and then the second one, when he 315 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: was confident, was here, and then the third one was 316 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, both of them out there in a 317 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: mud bath. You gotta be confident, but you gotta be 318 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: honest about what your strengths and weaknesses are as coaches 319 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: and players. Let's take our first break. We've got lendsy 320 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: monitoring periscope, so check that out. Questions coming in from y'all, 321 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I see them, chime in. We'll get to that next 322 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: when we come back and continue breaking down, maybe flipping around, 323 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys defense next on Talking Cowboys. 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I shouldn't have read this, Glen's 371 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: ever since ya gonna be there? What's it gonna? It 372 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: is so much fun and a big thing to say. 373 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: It is kid friendly, Like there's activities, there's food and drinks, 374 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: there's music. They have the game and sound playing the 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: whole time on the board that's like three thousand square 376 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: feet I believe or whatever huge ever be time full 377 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Christmas decorations, Christmas decorations. They hit the tree last night too, 378 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: by the way, lit So that would be a tobably 379 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: different feel from the first game we had when it 380 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: was six billion degrees. That was Redskins right. Oh, we 381 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: were we were cooking. Mmm. Literally, it's gonna be nice 382 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: fifty sunny's and fifty fifty degrees. Yeah, pregame show is 383 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: live out there, so just come hang out all day. 384 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: I see people tailgating really early now on Sunday. I'll 385 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: bring my camera code. It might need, it might need 386 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a hide from y'all. It's gonna be a little brisk, 387 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: It'll be perfect football weather out there at Tostitos Championship 388 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Plaza at the Star Welcome back inside the swbs see 389 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio, Rob Mickey Lindsay and the great Everson Walls Lens. 390 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: What's popping off on periscope? Yes, a question here that 391 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: I've wanted to talk about. Actually, I can't wait for 392 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: you guys to hear it. Patriots pride themselves on special teams. 393 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: How big of an impact is this going to be 394 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: this week? When you think about their special teams unit 395 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys who have had two touchdowns? I'm sorry, 396 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: that might that might be the most lopsided. I'm sorry, 397 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm laughing. Go in, go in, vic Fellas. I mean, 398 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: this could be the deciding teams have not been good. 399 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Can somebody tell me the special team coaches name, We're 400 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: not going to do that. He's gotta be accountable, He's 401 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: gotta be held accountable. I must say the special teams 402 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: has been the most consistent element of this team for 403 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I'd say at least the last five years, especially with 404 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: the uh the field goal kickers we've had, and that's 405 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: not including the last couple of years. But I'm talking 406 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: about when we had, uh, we've still got one of 407 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: the best punners in the league, most consistent pumbers in league. 408 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: We had one of the more consistent kickers in the 409 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: league a couple of years ago, and uh, we could 410 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: depend on that every game. We could depend on that. 411 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Now it's different. Yeah, And you know, he started falling 412 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: off that last part of the year before they let 413 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: him go, and he struggled last year with the Vikings Bailey. 414 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Now he's back. Now he's back on his normal pace. 415 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: So he's been pretty good. You're right. And Maha has 416 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: been more consistent better lately lately, but not you know, 417 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: there's some key ones that he misses that you sit 418 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: there and go that could change the complexion of the 419 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: game and the season itself start. But it's not only 420 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: the kicking, it's the you know, yeah, covering punts and kickoffs. 421 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: When we when we signed Tavon Austin, I thought, this 422 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: is it, this is the excitement that we need, and 423 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen any 424 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: of it, whether it's communication problems or it just seems 425 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: like every time he runs the ball, no matter how 426 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: much room is in front of him, when he catches it, 427 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: we get a negative return. I don't understand how we 428 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: can do that, especially in some of the biggest games 429 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: and key moments. And this team, we talked about it, 430 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: how little healthy defense gives team gives the Cowboys. Special 431 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: teams just really not helping much at all either, you know. 432 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: And they brag about how much depth they have, and 433 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: normally the depth should show up on special teams, right, 434 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: and it really hasn't. You got a bunch of young 435 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: guys out there. You don't have very many salty veterans 436 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: that have been around the league for four or five 437 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: years playing on special teams. We always had that that 438 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: guy on special teams right right. It was always see 439 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: Bill before that you Anthony Dickerson from SMU, just the 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: late Anthony linebacker. Linebacker from SMU. Ron Fellows came in. 441 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: He has a specialist to where University of Curry stop 442 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: him from getting down the field. He was gonna make 443 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: that play, make that one on one tackle, you know 444 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: as the guy is retreating. Yeah, you know, we always 445 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: had that excitement and it would ignite the defense because oh, 446 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: now we've got them backed up even ten fifteen more 447 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: yards and you know that ignites everything. So we just 448 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: haven't had that from a specialist team standpoint to where 449 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Tayvon or some return guys gotten the ball, you know, 450 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: taking it from you know, being at the thirty yard 451 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: line to all of a sudden now with the fifty 452 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: yard line. We just haven't helped your offense, had helps 453 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: your office help the entire team. Yeah, absolutely, and the 454 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: coverage to Mickey mentioned that there's been some some leakage 455 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: on some returns um and the Patriots feast off of that. 456 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: They're they're a field position team, even with Tom Brady, 457 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: who's okay, his numbers aren't what they are. But when 458 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: you give Tom Brady short fields, you're in trouble. Baby 459 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: has some block punts too, haven't they. Yeah, block punts, 460 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. They score in a lot of different ways. 461 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: In Yeah, yes, yes, I was trying to think that 462 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: boys have a punt blocked. It's like, well, let's let's 463 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: hope that I can't remember one, and let's hope we 464 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: never remember one. Yes, this week, another question for you, ever, 465 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Sin do you think that Cheetah would be suited better 466 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: at a different position or different role. You know, I 467 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: realized I said it a couple of weeks ago, just 468 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: how athletic our cornerbacks are. Extremely athletic. Jones is one 469 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: of the most athletic players in the league period. He 470 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: was the darling of the camp back when he was 471 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: a senior. Uh A. Woozier is always shown that he 472 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: can run and make some plays. It's the mental aspect. 473 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: To me, it's always the mental approach to it. If 474 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: you can't make plays at cornerback, I can't see moving 475 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: you to another position changing that what you have to 476 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: have And we ho up on this all the time, 477 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: and you know, here we go again. When you start 478 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: to talking about trying to make a difference as a 479 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: defensive back, one thing you have to have is route recognition. 480 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: You have to have route recognition. You can't just be 481 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: out there running with a guy and just staring in 482 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the back of his head not really having any idea 483 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: what his preferred outcome is. You know where he wants 484 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: to be as a receiver on the field. You need 485 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: to know that. You need to know when he's running 486 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: then out route where they're gonna throw it. When he 487 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: runs the slant, where's it gonna be, what they're gonna 488 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: throw it? When he runs a post? What's the moves? 489 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: When is it too When is it time to turn 490 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: around and look for the ball? Where is that clock 491 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: go off in your head? These are things that these 492 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: dbs don't have, and that's something that I thought you 493 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: could teach, but obviously it's very difficult to teach. Moving 494 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: a Woozier would not make a difference. I don't think 495 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: I'd be extremely surprised if it did, because I really 496 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: haven't seen him show any great ball skills. And if 497 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: you if he could show me that, then yes, I 498 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: would say moving him and made a difference. But his 499 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: what he lives is in his athleticism alone. It has 500 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: nothing to do with ball skills. I haven't seen that yet, 501 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, And I know everybody harps on him because 502 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: they see completions on that side of the field. But 503 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: from a past defense, you know, there's one play that 504 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: stands out right this whole season so far, the Jets 505 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: ninety two yard completion for a touchdown. If you look 506 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: at their numbers, their seventh in the league. In past defense, 507 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: teams are averaging on offense like two hundred and thirty 508 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: some yards a game. The Cowboys are giving up like 509 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: two twenty six. So the past defense hasn't hurt them. 510 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: What's hurt them is the run defense. That's the consistent 511 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: thing in losses that you can look at. So again, 512 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: you know the Packers game, you know, okay, they gave 513 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: up yards, but a lot of that had to do 514 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: with the turnovers given the Packers short fields, and the 515 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Vikings game it was mistackles. Right. Yeah, So I know 516 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: everybody wants to harp on one thing, you know, but 517 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: as Jason said today, you know that they're gonna complete 518 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: passes and you know this, The thing is, okay, I 519 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: got to come back and make a play, right because 520 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna come There's a reason why these quarterbacks are throwing. 521 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: All these guys get paid just like we do. Yeah, 522 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: so you're not going to pitch a shutout, but you 523 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: just want to make a play here or there to say, okay, 524 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm here by the way if you're coming my way. 525 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: So I think the things the two things we've talked 526 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: about the most defensively are the tackling and the takeaways. 527 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: If they improve those two areas, and they've got a 528 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: shot to be really elite defense. This is the biggest 529 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: test for the defense. And those two areas alone, and 530 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: those are two areas where they've had the less consistency. 531 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna screen you, they're gonna use Edelman, they're gonna 532 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: use Michelle White, Burkhead, all those guys. And we saw 533 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: what the Vikings were able to do in the screen. 534 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: And you gotta be as clean as you can be 535 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: tackling assignment, gap wise, all those things. And by the way, 536 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: on that injury port for the for the Patriots, the 537 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: two guys that did not practice were two of their 538 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: top three wide receivers. Philip door Set missed with a concussion, 539 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: so you never know how soon those things clear up. 540 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: And Mohammed Sanu was out with an ankle. They're saying 541 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: it might be a high ankle too. We'll see what that. 542 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna Yeah, so that really that really would 543 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: limit you know, they're already seemingly limited and throwing the 544 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: ball down the field. They just don't do it very much, 545 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: but that would severy a little them. Then then they 546 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: got um, I can't pronounce. The guy's name is Knell, 547 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: Harry Neil, Kneil Harry good young player. He's the other 548 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: young player that he used, but he had been out 549 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know how much he's done. 550 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: So they've got some problems at wide receiver other than Edelman, 551 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: who was a big problem. By the way, all they're 552 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna do, it's gonna they're gonna be very strategic in 553 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: what they do. If I were the Cowboys, I would 554 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: come out so aggressively against the Patriots. Defensively, I'd come 555 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: out extremely aggressive, make Brady uncomfortable. And what happens is 556 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: when you start doing all of that, they're gonna try 557 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: and get people free fast. They're gonna set picks for 558 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Element all day long. So when it comes, don't be surprised. 559 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: You don't start. It's gonna happen. You might as well 560 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: look forward to it. That is part of a Belichick's 561 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: game plan. And that's when Element is really that's when 562 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: he's a beast. When he is able to get some 563 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: space and when he catches it is he's hard to 564 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: bring down. So as a cornerback, when you can see 565 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: you're getting picked, what's the what are you're supposed to do? 566 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: Go under? You're got to communicate whatever you do. You 567 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: got to communicate. We have to be on the same page. 568 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: We used to practice that all the time. Once you 569 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: lock on, you're on. You can't keep waiting all the 570 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: way down to field for them to uncover. Now, once 571 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: you lock on, then you lock on. And if once 572 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: you do lock on, if you're if you're covering the 573 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: got man to man, and if you lock on and 574 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: he's inside of you and he's got a chance to 575 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: go across the field, when you do lock on, you 576 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: better make sure that you lock onto where you have 577 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: the leverage on that receiver. He might go across the 578 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: field and get seven eight yards. That's great, but you 579 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: don't want him breaking down the field and you're chasing 580 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: him for thirty four the years. That's not what you want. 581 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to pick your battles. I was 582 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: decent at that when I played. You're gonna give up something, 583 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: and as in the flex, that's what the way we 584 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: were taught to play it by the Cowboys. You have 585 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: to give up something as a defensive back, but don't 586 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: give up the big play. And to me that that 587 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: works well for almost any defensive strategy. So if a 588 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: guys getting ready to pick you do you want to 589 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: run into them and hope they throw a flag or 590 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: you try to get through it. If I run through him, 591 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: then I'm running through him in order to get through it. Okay, 592 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get to show something because I'm 593 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: If you flop and it doesn't work, he's going your arms. Yeah, 594 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: that quap. You can't depend on that. You've got to 595 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: stay alive and at the same time show that you're 596 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: fighting through exactly exactly before we go to break lens. 597 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: You were a baller back in the day. I'm making it. 598 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm making an MJ comparison here because it were you 599 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: at all. That Tom Brady who looks for any slight 600 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: ever as motivation, just like Michael Jordan did. That's who 601 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I think of that everybody's trying to kind of bury 602 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit. That happened last year? Was it 603 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: last year? Yeah? Actually he was like you know what, 604 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: everybody said, we suck. Here we are again with another 605 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: another drophe I mean, I feel like last year they 606 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: got it worse than this year. Maybe so, maybe so. 607 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: I just there's just all this talk that he's forty 608 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: two and his numbers are down, just like, oh, he's 609 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: not too happy with it either. Too many interviews about it, Yeah, 610 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: too many questions about it. He did say, I grew 611 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: up hating the Cowboys, so I don't know that. Yes, 612 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: oh that's right, that's right. So we I mean, still, 613 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: he's got he's got to show me. He's still to go. 614 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: We've got to bring it to him. You can't play 615 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: scared against this guy. You can't play scared against this 616 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: entire team. I think you're right. 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I think he played against Burckhead. 684 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: He probably did. Um, that'll have to be a Google question. 685 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he has at least two super Bowls. 686 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: I know he's got last birthhead. How many super Bowl 687 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: rings do you see? Yeah? And I was just saying, 688 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: when you think of all the guys from Dallas, the 689 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: play ball, Harvey Martin, myself, Michael Downs, you know all 690 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: these players, uh, Calvin Lockhart's by Lockhart, all these guys. 691 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: I think he has more rings than anybody else, and 692 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: anybody else from the Dallas area. I keep to leave 693 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: has his his one burkhead actually only has one ring. 694 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: Just went from last year. Yeah, it was from last season. 695 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: Was that his first year in New England? Last year? 696 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: I think it might have been, Well now I think 697 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: it was his second because I remember talking to his dad. 698 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: He was a free agent at some point and he 699 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: decided to go back to New England and he said, 700 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, his thinking was, you know, these people know me. 701 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable there, I've been there. Don't want to ring, 702 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: don't want to go something. I was surprised to see 703 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: him back, I know. And it turned out okay, right, Yeah, 704 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: And he was one of those jack of all trade 705 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: guys that you just love to have. I remember from 706 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: playing though he was he was crazy. He was Bill 707 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: Jones would be all over this ring when people don't 708 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: get the respect when they're the local guys. And he 709 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: loved X from they were using them against Philadelphia. I 710 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: mean they were handing them the ball. I started to 711 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: ask him about it yesterday, I really did. I started 712 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: to ask Bill about it yesterday because this guy, that's 713 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: his guy. He's a guy that I just never even 714 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: as good as he was in high school. When Nebraska, right, yeah, 715 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: goes to Nebraska, you think he's just a good college player. 716 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: He'll never make it, you know, And I was pleasant 717 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: le surprise. Yeah he made it doing so well. I mean, 718 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: when you can say when when Belichick can depend on 719 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: you in special situations, I don't care if you get 720 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: an All Pro Hall of Fame whatever, you can always 721 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: say Belichick depended on me. I was one of his guys, 722 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: and I think I think he is one of Belichick's favorites. 723 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: He helped salt that Super Bowl away for them in 724 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and he's fit right in with that. 725 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: They always use a stable of backs, Michelle White, he's 726 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: part of it. To last week, he big player. I 727 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: think about thirty plus yards on the pass play that 728 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: really helped him seal the game. Did you guys catch 729 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: the I used it in my mix shots, But Jerry's 730 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: interview on Monday, when they asked him about Belichick and 731 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: then they asked him, did you have any you know, 732 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: relationship with him before or whatever? And Jerry tells the story. 733 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: He didn't give the year, but it had to be 734 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: after the ninety five season, okay, and the Cowboys had 735 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. He said he was at a 736 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: ski resort and he was in line trying to rent 737 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: skis for his grandkids, and he goes some guy behind 738 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: me kept bumping into me and bumping into me. He said, 739 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: I turned around and looked, and he said, he's got 740 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: his goggles on, you know, got a hat on. He 741 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: doesn't recognize him, right, and he goes in. Finally the 742 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: guy raised his goggles up and it was Belichick. Belichick 743 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: was in the ski line behind him and and he said, 744 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: we made small talk, and he said Belichick told me. 745 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: He goes, hey, you know, if if you ever need 746 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: a good coach, come call me right. Wow. And this 747 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: was after he got fired at Cleveland and he was 748 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: looking for a job. Wow. So who do we have 749 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: at that time? Wow? Switzer had just won a Super Bowl. Okay, okay, 750 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: So we missed that opportunity and he ended up going 751 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: to the Jets with ourselves one blowing opportunity right there, 752 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: big time. But he was like forty four and sixty 753 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: or something. See Belichick doing anything but coaching. They had 754 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: they had an episode of him on his boat. It 755 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: was six Wings. Is that the name of the boat is? Yeah, 756 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: it sounds like some boat. Yeah whatever. I just you know, 757 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: it looks so out of place. He was kicked back 758 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: with a beard, you know, him, Him and Sabing, same thing. Yeah, 759 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: I can't seem like you're pretending to be comfortable on 760 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: this boat, but you're cringing inside because you want to be. 761 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: He's out there in sunshine, but really in his mind, 762 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: he's he's at uh at the stadium, you know, and 763 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: in blizzard driven snow. Watch out for those boats. That's why. 764 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: When when when? Yeah, right, yeah, regardless of the time. Yeah, 765 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: when Jimmy, when Jimmy and Jerry had their little party 766 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and twenty eight, Jimmy took him vacation, 767 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: right he was gone from the ranch and I saw 768 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: him come back and it's like, the heck have you been? 769 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: He goes took two weeks off? I got you took 770 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: a vacation? He goes first one I took since I 771 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: was coaching at Oklahoma State, right and then, right then 772 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: and there, I said, oh he had that boat. He 773 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: was in Miami. He might have find out there's more 774 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: to life than just coaching football. Right and sure enough, 775 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: you know he was looking for a little out after 776 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: that season about Jimmy. But man, he's got a great 777 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: hair to hair, he does, got the best hair to 778 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: hear still he does. Golly, dude, I can imagine with 779 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: that tan, he's probably looking like, who's some batman? What's 780 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: that guy? Who's the joker? Was a sit Sesar or somebody? Yeah, 781 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: with the just silver, yes, but all of it. Yes, Yes, 782 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: can't beat that. Football lifers belichicks. That's yeah, he's one. 783 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: They're nine and one guys on the show with hair 784 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: and me. He got great hair, man, you got great hair. 785 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: We're back to Marl Lynn. Thanks for joining us today. 786 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: I have great hair, he does. Bill Jones has a 787 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: great hair too. He'll be back wrap up the week Friday. Thanks. Thanks, 788 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: yes missing. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 789 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.