Speaker 1: All right, We're good.
Speaker 2: You like go.
Speaker 1: Busting with the Boss, hanging with the.
Speaker 3: Betting on the game.
Speaker 4: No woman's gonna tell us.
Speaker 5: What not be.
Speaker 6: We're here.
Speaker 4: Just drinking beer and making nao, Baby, I'm hanging with
Speaker 4: the Fellers, Busting with the boys.
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Speaker 2: three fourteen of Busting with the Boys. We're your host
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Speaker 3: Together, Let's drive What a beautiful I thought you were
Speaker 3: like putting the mic down, like we're finished. Beautiful time
Speaker 3: to be in New Orleans, dude. It's like seventy five
Speaker 3: degrees all week long, big game right by Bourbon Street.
Speaker 3: Everyone's having a good time. We got the barstool, guys
Speaker 3: hanging out the birthplace of Jazz, the birthplace allegedly the
Speaker 3: birthplace of Jazz. I don't think it is, though, Mississippi
Speaker 3: Delta Cha GPT told me I took a class. Shout
Speaker 3: out Bruce com Forth, my teacher. He asked me not
Speaker 3: to take the class. I don't think it is. I
Speaker 3: think it's like a common misconception. And what do you
Speaker 3: think is the Mississippi Delta.
Speaker 2: See, look, the birthplace of jazz is wildly recognized as
Speaker 2: New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I feel like Bruce com Forth, my
Speaker 3: blues teacher at Michigan, ship on that and he was like,
Speaker 3: a lot of people think it's this, but it's actually
Speaker 3: the Mississippi Delta. Robert Johnson he sold to sold the
Speaker 3: Devil at the cross Roads, those types of things, right crossroads. Uh, sure,
Speaker 3: Motown's Memphis. No, I could tell that that was Motown
Speaker 3: Records isn't Memphis. I'll say this, listen, this is not
Speaker 3: a history podcast. This is a sports podcast. Our guest today,
Speaker 3: we're the two stars, the hosts, a part of my tape,
Speaker 3: the sports podcast in the world, just absolutely gracing them
Speaker 3: with our presence. Hey, if you want to be in
Speaker 3: the intro, you can go ahead and sit here. That
Speaker 3: is that Detroit. That was a crazy mess. It was
Speaker 3: a crazy mess.
Speaker 2: Big cats here fun fact Motown is in Detroit. Cat
Speaker 2: GPT is correctt.
Speaker 3: GBT, Yes, but dude, great podcasts A lot of fun,
Speaker 3: some some good bro time, talking a little bit of ball,
Speaker 3: talking about the p m T how they started, when
Speaker 3: they got to PFT and Big Cat, the way they
Speaker 3: met absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2: I do feel like we got into some good storytelling,
Speaker 2: Yes do you think so, Bigcat. I feel like we
Speaker 2: got into some good depths of the origin story of
Speaker 2: both Big Cat and PFT finding a pardon my take
Speaker 2: the surgeons of that while they're in the company and
Speaker 2: you are a younger company that just got acquired by
Speaker 2: Penn at the time, or churnin my.
Speaker 3: Fault, taking the leap of jumping into the podcast as
Speaker 3: quickly as they did once PFT got to New York.
Speaker 3: Just a crazy thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how Busting with the Boys can still can still
Speaker 2: try to succeed outside of Barsols Sports by following everything
Speaker 2: that they do. Yep, we'll just have to drop our
Speaker 2: episodes a day later. But a lot of good stuff,
Speaker 2: a lot of good stories. If you are in New
Speaker 2: Orleans this week, highly recommend what is it the Acmeat
Speaker 2: Oyster House. A lot of meat on those oysters, a
Speaker 2: very good oysters.
Speaker 3: So one place will is eaton as we've been here.
Speaker 3: We got here at ten o'clock today.
Speaker 2: Are you more of a raw or chargrilled oysters?
Speaker 3: I am more of a chargrold guy. I do like oysters.
Speaker 3: It's not my favorite thing in the world. Like I
Speaker 3: see the way you sell you and J Pece salivate
Speaker 3: over it. I like a char char boiled. This is
Speaker 3: called trouble char grilled, char grilled, charboiled whatever. Rockefeller style.
Speaker 3: I like a little I like a little bit of
Speaker 3: parmesan on there, some herbs, some butter. That's what I
Speaker 3: like on.
Speaker 2: My You like a little Southern mix in your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like some fixings on top of my oysters.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, the whole fixing thing. And that's
Speaker 2: why I like the raw, because I feel like you
Speaker 2: have a variety of things that you can do with
Speaker 2: said oyster versus just having it one style.
Speaker 3: And I love your heads it. Let me take you
Speaker 3: a little bit further. I like to get my charuboil
Speaker 3: oysters to already have fiixins on them, and I think,
Speaker 3: take more fixins and I put those fix on the top.
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Speaker 3: No, I can't read this. I can't see it.
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Speaker 3: the episode We're rolling now? It's good you Big was.
Speaker 2: Our was our first Super Bowl episode last year and
Speaker 2: the audio was just weren't on.
Speaker 3: It was insane who was the guy who's the audio
Speaker 3: guy that did that.
Speaker 2: We don't we don't want.
Speaker 3: You, but like that was a really bad fuck up. Dude.
Speaker 6: Look the jps here we had a sound guy Scottsdale
Speaker 6: that I think he screwed up the audio of the
Speaker 6: post Eagles chief super Bowl where Max was like super
Speaker 6: super sad and it just disappeared. And I think was
Speaker 6: it the handka to spend that's that's the luxury where
Speaker 6: me and a big catterat where now like show is
Speaker 6: over like that and there's a big, big fuck up.
Speaker 6: We're just like, well, at least we don't have to
Speaker 6: do ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you said you're like, all right, we're
Speaker 2: never going to get a contractor in this remote location again,
Speaker 2: Well we do.
Speaker 5: We do sound guys every time we do these trips,
Speaker 5: and it's funny because they just become like part of
Speaker 5: our show for an entire week. This week we have
Speaker 5: a guy named Ian who was wearing he was wearing
Speaker 5: a legit trained doctor hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 3: He wasn't just put it on just but.
Speaker 1: We got some yeah, weird guys.
Speaker 5: There was that guy in Houston who was like like
Speaker 5: where do you live He's like, I live in the woods.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, it was like one hundred and two degrees.
Speaker 6: He was wearing black jeans, long sleeved black shirt every day,
Speaker 6: same outfit, and he just went home to the woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And there was that other guy who laughed at all
Speaker 5: of our jokes, and we're like, we want to keep.
Speaker 1: This guy right.
Speaker 5: He would literally like laugh out loud, which you're I
Speaker 5: don't think you're supposed to do his sound.
Speaker 1: Well, we're recorded, but it adds a nice elbow. Is
Speaker 1: sick jokes anymore?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because you listen to like two Bears or any
Speaker 2: of those comedic podcasts and you hear the laughing in
Speaker 2: the background, it's like, oh yeah, brings the show to
Speaker 2: life a little.
Speaker 6: Have you ever tried to watch an episode of Friends
Speaker 6: without the laugh track?
Speaker 1: On? No very depressive?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see.
Speaker 3: I did see a clip on Instagram the other day
Speaker 3: of like it was a scene of Friends with Ross,
Speaker 3: but they edited out all the characters so it was
Speaker 3: like ross Es schizophrenia. It was hilarious. There was no laugh track.
Speaker 1: What with these mics that we were holding.
Speaker 5: We're just trying to see if we have like feats
Speaker 5: of strength something because I'm it's wait.
Speaker 2: Dude, twenty five, you show up and would you show up?
Speaker 1: You can get traded for being fat? Now do you
Speaker 1: guys know about Luca?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we heard about Luca. We heard about the Luca trade.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, like JJ wasn't told ahead of time.
Speaker 6: Do they respect JJ enough?
Speaker 2: Do they respect any of those guys enough? Didn't wouldn't
Speaker 2: Jason Kidds just sitting at the podium. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 2: care about any of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was sad he was just sitting there with
Speaker 6: a thousand yards stare. Why was he even there? But
Speaker 6: the GM made this crazy deal and then he just
Speaker 6: had Jason Kidds sitting next to him, like, if you
Speaker 6: have any questions for Jason, feel free, you know, chime in.
Speaker 6: And Jason was like, you, dude, you you ruined my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or Jason might have just wanted to sit there and
Speaker 2: be like, I have to sit on this so people
Speaker 2: know I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6: Have you ever seen those those like press conferences that
Speaker 6: people do if they get caught doing something like really
Speaker 6: fucked up cheating on their wife, and they bring their
Speaker 6: wife with them and have them sit there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: that's what this was with Jason Kidd.
Speaker 5: Kobe had got the big ring. Yeah, you got it,
Speaker 5: like the biggest ring ever for Vanessa.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Gregor's wife was next to him during the lawsuit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: walking everywhere around.
Speaker 3: What a rider die for that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah is that Robbie Fox. That is tough. I
Speaker 1: mean Tiger had to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tiger had to do a press conference being like,
Speaker 5: I love sex, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I think his mom was at that one. I think so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: his mom was. He's like, mom, you know me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well yeah, morning. Uh love having you guys on.
Speaker 2: I was texting with you guys last week. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: feel right if we went five years and didn't have
Speaker 2: the actual part of my take both of you together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: big cat, we've had one who completely botched audio pft
Speaker 2: still yet to ever even be on.
Speaker 5: The Also, I was on the bus in Tennessee when
Speaker 5: you guys tried to smoke us out.
Speaker 1: It's like a thousand degrees. Brandon literally got a migraine
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 3: That was on the gravel right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was those early days.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am a little bit disappointed that I will
Speaker 6: never be on the bus. I've always wanted to do
Speaker 6: a podcast inside a moving vehicle. It's been my dream,
Speaker 6: and unfortunately it's very fun. I'll never get there doesn't
Speaker 6: even move.
Speaker 2: I hate to let you down. It's not it doesn't move.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh really, well yeah we could tell it though.
Speaker 1: I mean, Vanny. Vanny's gonna be back soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got to watch out in a big way.
Speaker 5: Danny's gonna Vanny's getting refurbished Vann. He's gonna be able
Speaker 5: to it. Was it was dead, so Vanny. We bought
Speaker 5: Vanny was it seven years ago? First five hundred bucks. Uh,
Speaker 5: did a bunch of stuff out of it, did interviews,
Speaker 5: did Grit Week, and then I kept on paying the
Speaker 5: car insurance and it was just like this is stupid.
Speaker 5: We're never using it doesn't work anymore. So we told
Speaker 5: Billy to scrap Vanny. We're like taking the scrap yard.
Speaker 5: Here's the title, turn it in. He's like, got it,
Speaker 5: got it, got it. He's like, all right, all done,
Speaker 5: Title's done. You don't have to pay insurance anymore. And
Speaker 5: then two years past and Billy hit us up and
Speaker 5: was like, hey, what do you guys want me to
Speaker 5: do with Vanny, Like, what do you.
Speaker 1: Mean you said you scrapped it? He's like, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just I just kept it.
Speaker 3: He just.
Speaker 6: He essentially, I mean he found a parking spot for
Speaker 6: it that it sat there unbothered for a couple of years.
Speaker 6: So as far as I'm turned, like, good job.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's basically like what when they do, like a movie
Speaker 5: or a show does a lazy thing where they kill
Speaker 5: off a main character and then their twin brother shows up.
Speaker 5: That's what happened with Van. Actually it's not dead. So yeah,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get Vanny back on the road.
Speaker 2: How long was Vanny? How long was Vanny alive before
Speaker 2: he was dead?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How often did you guys?
Speaker 1: We used it?
Speaker 2: I remember Bo went on that right, but went on.
Speaker 5: We went to Youngstown for a Bacie tournament. We went
Speaker 5: and interviewed JJ watt and Wisconsin blew Attire. After that
Speaker 5: we went to the tournament draft and then actually go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we went to danny Woodhead. We got we went to
Speaker 5: the draft. Driving back from the draft and Philly got
Speaker 5: pulled over. Only time it's ever worked. Cop was just
Speaker 5: like he came up to us and was just like
Speaker 5: oh fuck, it's you guys. And he's like, all right,
Speaker 5: just be safe, Like, okay, you pulled over. I think
Speaker 5: none of the tail lights were on. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not very safe. There was a hole in the
Speaker 5: floor of Vannie, so when you're driving on the highway
Speaker 5: you could just see I was like in the middle area.
Speaker 5: We also, we were driving once back from Youngstown. All
Speaker 5: four tires blew out at the exact same time, going
Speaker 5: seventy miles.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 5: It turns out when you buy a van for five
Speaker 5: hundred dollars, that's what you're you're gonna have some problem.
Speaker 3: But did you guys drive yourself or did you have
Speaker 3: it sent places?
Speaker 1: No, we drove it. We all got in there and
Speaker 1: drove it. Well, big Cat drove it.
Speaker 6: Big Cat has an issue with anybody else.
Speaker 1: I like to drive. Yeah, the driver get carsick.
Speaker 6: The first trip we ever took on the I think
Speaker 6: it was the r V, it was like, I'd like
Speaker 6: to drive.
Speaker 1: Big Cat was just like what I get car?
Speaker 6: I drive?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like oh okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, you know, women's equal rights, like
Speaker 2: my wife will split.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your your wife will drive you around?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Not you right, Yeah, I think my wife is
Speaker 3: driven me one time and then.
Speaker 2: Eight years have been married, right, Taylor.
Speaker 3: I kind of actually I kind of wish like that
Speaker 3: because I get Taylor.
Speaker 2: I would love to be when you were you were,
Speaker 2: you were the mail and happens all right, I know anything.
Speaker 1: The one hundred and forty million, you got, that's because it's.
Speaker 2: Anytime we do get in the car, I know I'm
Speaker 2: good because I know he'll drive.
Speaker 3: I love driving. I do.
Speaker 2: And my wife too, I mean, you know, yeah, she's like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm driving this time because you gotta deal
Speaker 2: with the kids in the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That sucks. Yeah, that does suck. When you're driving with kids.
Speaker 1: You can just be like I'm driving, Yeah, Like I gotta.
Speaker 3: Focus on space.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We went to thirty eight. We did the whole drive
Speaker 3: from Nashville. There was like eight hours and that's the
Speaker 3: whole time talent was out there working with the kids,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I gotta focus, Onta, I gotta focus
Speaker 3: right here, save for this family safe the entire time.
Speaker 3: I'm actually doing most of the work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Like you're the hero there. Speaking of
Speaker 5: the one hundred and forty million, have these guys like
Speaker 5: spent any of it? Is it like good Fellas where
Speaker 5: you know JP one comes in with a mink coat
Speaker 5: and you're like, guys, the deal hasn't even done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, back, deal hasn't even started.
Speaker 1: Back you got to go back to which was JP one?
Speaker 3: That's JP one? What's JP two?
Speaker 1: Just right down the wad?
Speaker 5: And then there's Shirm who you gotta watch out for sure,
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it. Sam thinks he's a little
Speaker 5: bit of a star. Doesn't follow me back, which is
Speaker 5: just a total funk you to me. I followed him really? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's sure.
Speaker 3: I think it's had a million follows.
Speaker 1: Sure thinks that he's he's next up.
Speaker 5: He is going to watch out for he's looking, he's looking.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh well, Taylor's got a lot of injuries.
Speaker 5: It might be me sitting in that bust with Will.
Speaker 3: Is that true? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like your stuff.
Speaker 3: Speaking of spending money, and before this deal was even
Speaker 3: done anything deal? Sure?
Speaker 2: You know a deal?
Speaker 1: Are the NFL contract?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We were.
Speaker 3: So we were at the shop and Sham doesn't lift
Speaker 3: far away and he talked to our shoves really small
Speaker 3: and Sherman was talking about getting a communal what moped
Speaker 3: for the shop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, scooter, like a motorized scooter.
Speaker 3: It's like, sure, we don't like there's literally you walk
Speaker 3: ten steps at the end of the shop, right, that's
Speaker 3: all you. It'd be great, but the guys morale.
Speaker 1: Knowing that you take, guys can give you advice watching
Speaker 1: missing with Yeah, I listen. If we did truth here
Speaker 1: and with all the jps, that'd be like, sure's problem
Speaker 1: because to show up. Yeah, we're just gonna basically try.
Speaker 3: To create because that's a well known fashion.
Speaker 1: I think you can do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're keeping you down.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much they painting?
Speaker 3: Sure enough?
Speaker 1: What about to keep him quiet enough? Okay, interesting, we'll
Speaker 1: give me a call. Well, once you follow me, you
Speaker 1: can d m me.
Speaker 3: Literally, as soon as this whole split up between barcelonas happened,
Speaker 3: Shirm's gonna come and be like, hey, I'm going to
Speaker 3: if there was like was.
Speaker 2: The one too he was ready to give Jackie's like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give jack that Chevy Silverado. Yeah, you're just
Speaker 2: kicking our guys off.
Speaker 5: One in my when you guys, uh completely screwed over
Speaker 5: Jack and didn't give a Chevy Silverado, which justice for Jack?
Speaker 5: That was bullshit, that's I was. There was a moment
Speaker 5: there was like there was a twenty minute moment where
Speaker 5: I was like, I might just buy Jack a Chevy Silverado.
Speaker 5: Big dick these guys, and I was like, wait, that's
Speaker 5: not that funny for like seventy thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: But there was a moment where I was like.
Speaker 3: This would have been the ultimate. It would have been
Speaker 3: the ultimate.
Speaker 5: F Then I was like, maybe I'll just random one,
Speaker 5: and it's like that's not funny. So you know, they
Speaker 5: deserve you deserve a Chevy silver I would get you on, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I would if he still worked still worked.
Speaker 1: At I'm you have two trucks?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wish that there was like an account that, you know,
Speaker 6: there was to follow NBA players and let you know,
Speaker 6: like who they're following now online. I wish that there
Speaker 6: was one that did that for podcasts or like sum
Speaker 6: now follows and then everybody's like, what does this means?
Speaker 1: Not happening, that's happening.
Speaker 6: What was the account that Kuzma followed?
Speaker 1: What was her name?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 1: You know it was even better than that, So what
Speaker 1: is what is this?
Speaker 3: This account that says who follows who? Because said you
Speaker 3: know that the account, and I said yes, but I truly
Speaker 3: actually have no idea.
Speaker 6: They just like follow NBA players and every time they've
Speaker 6: got like a bot written for it, and every time
Speaker 6: an NBA player follows somebody new, they put out a
Speaker 6: post like this person just followed this person.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it happened to in the NFL with like if
Speaker 2: a trade might happen, Like when a j was unfollowing
Speaker 2: the Titans. Unfollowing the Titans, He's officially unfollowed the Titans. Yes,
Speaker 2: did you guys ever shopping you ever?
Speaker 3: Never the unfollowed? Never to the delete posts of all
Speaker 3: the things you follow?
Speaker 6: Barstool, what's that whatever?
Speaker 3: Will?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: When I was, I came up, we got to keep
Speaker 3: our creativity alive and going yeah takes doing, Yeah, they
Speaker 3: got a vandage.
Speaker 1: Should yeah we should block them.
Speaker 2: I don't whatever washing. Whenever Washington unfollowed, I was pretty heartbroken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah when they told you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I went to the Titans like they they
Speaker 2: unfollow me, and I was like, oh sad boy for
Speaker 2: a little bit exactly, like I'm still cool with everybody
Speaker 2: over there. You know, you still support the boys though, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not like uh you know, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 2: like with Washington the vyum with Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: With Washington they win some games every now and again.
Speaker 1: Or what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: The difference is Washington they win some games.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now they're in the driver's sea.
Speaker 1: Ye. Are we worried about Rayel looking a little pudgy.
Speaker 2: No, that's I think he goes better with wat.
Speaker 3: You saw them getting Pat Mahomes ship for me having
Speaker 3: a dad bod.
Speaker 5: I understand that's the three Mahomes. You can have a
Speaker 5: dad body when you have three Super Bowls and follow me.
Speaker 2: Rail is gonna be nice. Rail is gonna be nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: And number one transfer class in the Big ten.
Speaker 3: I know you saw that's not according to HU three.
Speaker 3: We had this conversation on the plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't have to get into it on threes,
Speaker 2: like only compassing transfers who also left twenty four to
Speaker 2: seven is just your transfer class that comes in there.
Speaker 3: So wouldn't the argument be all encompassing them.
Speaker 1: No, it's very simple. You go, what.
Speaker 6: Wisconsin give ranking.
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's like fifteenth deal. What are you guys dealing with
Speaker 3: It's just no, We're.
Speaker 6: Just we're going.
Speaker 5: We just they keep scheduling the hardest schedule in the world.
Speaker 5: Everyone name a team we play it. Oregon, yes, Alabama, yes, Michigan, yes, yes,
Speaker 5: it's it's the hardest schedule.
Speaker 3: He has have too many whites. Like, whites are definitely
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Speaker 2: do you think we who would be on like the
Speaker 2: all white team if we did like football fell?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Do you think that they would beat the all black thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'd have to do. We have enough time.
Speaker 1: How long does this podcast go?
Speaker 3: As long as you want to be something a great
Speaker 3: original idea?
Speaker 6: Who starts at at quarterback? We're going to Josh or Joe?
Speaker 2: I think, yeahsh either one.
Speaker 5: You let him battle it out for a couple We
Speaker 5: got a problem though, with cornerbacks. We got Cooper Dejean.
Speaker 5: I don't think we have problems Ethan Bonner, Ethan Bonner.
Speaker 5: And then who's our edge Rusher's gonna be TJ?
Speaker 2: You got Max.
Speaker 3: Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about wide receivers?
Speaker 3: Lad, the confis definitely in there.
Speaker 6: We got We're just we're just.
Speaker 3: It's a good break.
Speaker 1: We're not running back running back is.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm going to leave that up to him.
Speaker 3: I think we definitely can claim him.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can.
Speaker 6: I don't feel comfortable claiming people really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think yeah, what we do for running back?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're retired, No, he's not retired. Yeah, here's a question.
Speaker 3: We were talking about this before the show. Do you
Speaker 3: think who has a better career, Ashton Genty or scatter Bo.
Speaker 5: Probably Genty that I don't know, he's better.
Speaker 6: I mean, I I love watching Scatterbo. Feel like if
Speaker 6: he goes, if he goes to Denver, Sean Payton is
Speaker 6: going to be like Taysom Hill is back. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: younger and he's might maybe not quite as good a passer,
Speaker 6: but this this kid is going to get the ball gives.
Speaker 3: You saw the giving aainst Texas.
Speaker 1: He had a great pass Ye.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Scatibo is good. I mean that all the there's
Speaker 5: so many running backs in this draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing too, the thing that got me on
Speaker 3: Scatabo because the Ashton Genty to me was like, obviously
Speaker 3: you have the best career of all of them. But
Speaker 3: then Scatabo and his pre his pregame press conference being
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna bury Texas, I'm gonna go go to
Speaker 3: work on them, basically giving all the Bolton bar material
Speaker 3: in the world and then actually doing it. Yeah actually,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden he started going crazy.
Speaker 3: He's throwing up a little bit little boot and rally.
Speaker 2: Damn do you guys ever have uh, do you ever
Speaker 2: feel real tension between the whole Jane Daniels.
Speaker 1: No, I can't.
Speaker 6: I don't really feel intention because I'm just too busy
Speaker 6: being happy.
Speaker 2: There were are there any days that you come in
Speaker 2: and you're kind of like, I'm not gonna say a
Speaker 2: whole lot because I you know, the work speaks for its.
Speaker 1: No, because I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think about how big Cat thinks about my
Speaker 6: quarterback at all. I am. I love watching Jayde play
Speaker 6: and there's nothing that can like, I'm not gonna come
Speaker 6: and be like, man, maybe I shouldn't talk about Jaden
Speaker 6: as much because Big Cat's sad. No, I fucking love
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: He is the best.
Speaker 6: I've never had as much fun watching a quarterback as
Speaker 6: I have with Jaydon Daniels. Now, Big Cat might be
Speaker 6: upset that I that I'm so happy, No, but frankly
Speaker 6: I didn't care.
Speaker 5: I was for a little bit and then I just
Speaker 5: and Jane Daniels like I reached a point where I
Speaker 5: was just like, he's fun to watch and I can't
Speaker 5: really there's nothing you.
Speaker 1: Can do about it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like, like, I don't like when there's a lot of
Speaker 5: people like, oh, first read guy or this or that,
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, he's got a Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, he's just good, you know.
Speaker 5: And hopefully Caleb Williams progressive because that's the other The
Speaker 5: one thing I will say is the Internet and this
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with Jadan Daniels, but the internet
Speaker 5: has shit on Caleb to a point where it's like
Speaker 5: if you if you pold people, you'd be like, he
Speaker 5: had a terrible season. It's like, no, he didn't. He
Speaker 5: had He had a pretty good season for a rookie.
Speaker 5: Given the fact that his OC got fired, his next
Speaker 5: OC became head coach. Three weeks later, his head coach
Speaker 5: got fired.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's gonna be all.
Speaker 3: I because everyone said he's gonna be the greatest thing
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of hype. I mean that
Speaker 1: was years.
Speaker 5: People basically said he's gonna be Jada Dane two years.
Speaker 5: The two years thing always is tough. We just had
Speaker 5: Andrew luck on and we were talking to him about it. Like,
Speaker 5: when you're the number one, the consensus number one pick
Speaker 5: for two years running, people get exhausted of you, and
Speaker 5: they tear you down and they you know, Andrew Luck actually.
Speaker 1: Had a great answer. You're just like, no, I was
Speaker 1: that good.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I earned that, And I was like,
Speaker 5: that's I want that answer, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Just like, no, I didn't even think about it because
Speaker 5: I knew I.
Speaker 1: Was that good.
Speaker 3: I wish he was still playing so bad. I know,
Speaker 3: actually I'm happy he's not.
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way.
Speaker 6: If somehow it started to interrupt, if they put Caleb
Speaker 6: back somehow into the draft for next year, knowing what
Speaker 6: we already know about Caleb, and for whatever reason they
Speaker 6: were like, no, Chicago Bears, you're not allowed to have
Speaker 6: this guy anymore. He's going back into the draft. He
Speaker 6: would go number one, Yeah, he would. He's better than
Speaker 6: Shador and Cam.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess it's like, yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 1: I think JJ McCarthy would probably go ahead of the
Speaker 1: JAB wrong. Yeah, probably, he probably didn't.
Speaker 3: He was in a tough spot.
Speaker 1: Imagine we literally played this scenario and he didn't go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually think he's gonna be good. Jar.
Speaker 3: Think about JJ is like his season roller coaster, Like
Speaker 3: he gets hurt. Everyone's real sad, Oh, the Minnesota's gonna
Speaker 3: be really bad. Then Sam Donald goes off and they're
Speaker 3: going to keep Sam. Jj, you probably get traded, and
Speaker 3: then the playoffs happened and Sam ships the bed like.
Speaker 1: That were never going to keep saying. I mean they
Speaker 1: were maybe gonna franchise.
Speaker 3: Legit conversations going on.
Speaker 1: They were never.
Speaker 6: I think if he if he had beaten the lines,
Speaker 6: if he had won his opening round playoffs, if he
Speaker 6: had like lit it up in the playoffs, I think
Speaker 6: they would give him a contract.
Speaker 1: I think they would have franchised.
Speaker 6: How do you walk away from that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have a cheat code with JJ McCarthy on
Speaker 5: a rookie deal, like you can make your team so
Speaker 5: much better.
Speaker 3: But if you have that good of a record and
Speaker 3: then you go to JJ Sam.
Speaker 5: You franchise tame do it again, because it's like the
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones DANL. Jones had one good year and then
Speaker 5: they're like, oh, this is gonna be this is the
Speaker 5: year that he figured it out. No, he had a
Speaker 5: you know, a year that was outside of what his
Speaker 5: normal was.
Speaker 2: If you guys, if the Bears got the redraft from
Speaker 2: this last class, do you still want Caleb over Jayden.
Speaker 5: No, you'd probably take Jane. I mean, I still believe
Speaker 5: in Caleb, but I mean Jayden was incredible this year.
Speaker 3: Incredible.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious I can't fight anymore.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: He went to the NFC Championship ifty.
Speaker 3: Did you get a little nervous though that the last
Speaker 3: time the Washington team had that rookie? That's not mean,
Speaker 3: that's actually I mean it mean.
Speaker 6: It's mean because obviously I get very nervous about it
Speaker 6: all the time. I live every yame. Every time he
Speaker 6: gets tackled, I'm I say fuck every time somebody hits him.
Speaker 6: And there he takes some hits where it seems like
Speaker 6: his knee is gonna break, like he got hit by
Speaker 6: the Falcons one time, just bent over his leg and
Speaker 6: I was like, well, there goes my happiness.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 6: I got another like solid fifteen weeks end this season.
Speaker 1: Who's running this, by the way, sure sure we didn't
Speaker 1: know who rg thie was?
Speaker 3: Mike Doggery.
Speaker 6: Yeah, talking about of course, I get very nervous all
Speaker 6: the time with him all the time, because if you
Speaker 6: get one bad hit, it can it can screw everything up.
Speaker 6: But I think I think the way that he plays
Speaker 6: is a little bit different from Robert. I think that
Speaker 6: his rookie year already way better as a pocket passer.
Speaker 6: So when he runs, yes, he takes big shots. That
Speaker 6: makes me very scared.
Speaker 3: But even when he runs like he'll take big shots,
Speaker 3: but there's other times where he can tell it's over
Speaker 3: where Argie threw trying to try to dive, he just
Speaker 3: kind of gets down. Yeah, he's smarter about it. Seems
Speaker 3: like he's a little smarter about his mortality.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you.
Speaker 6: This will especially because as a linebacker you can't really
Speaker 6: hit quarterbacks right. But Lamar Jackson does this and Jayden
Speaker 6: does this too. Instead of sliding, sometimes they like dive
Speaker 6: at the legs of the linebackers, like head first, shoulder first.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's a very smart move because it's
Speaker 6: like you're not going to absorb that hit where you're sliding,
Speaker 6: your head's close to the ground, you get like one
Speaker 6: little deflection and bounces off the turf. As a quarterback,
Speaker 6: I feel like the dive at the defenders legs is
Speaker 6: a better move.
Speaker 2: I honestly agree. And I guess my thought is is
Speaker 2: like when did did quarterbacks fumble the ball all the
Speaker 2: time before, Like, you know, if Lamar and Jane are
Speaker 2: kind of normalizing diving forward, isn't that the whole risk
Speaker 2: of like why guys don't dive in the first place.
Speaker 2: And I have no basis on that other than I
Speaker 2: don't remember quarterbacks fumbling a lot when they were diving,
Speaker 2: except for outside of when you're playing mad and you
Speaker 2: seem to always smumble when you dive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time.
Speaker 6: There was There was one play where RG three was
Speaker 6: he was diving forward, I think it was his second year,
Speaker 6: and he just dove forward and then just left the
Speaker 6: ball on the ground back to the huddle and the
Speaker 6: other team just picked it up like that, and RG
Speaker 6: three was like, yeah, that's a sucky rule until he
Speaker 6: like blamed the rule afterwards and then they changed it.
Speaker 1: That was the old Plasko, right. Was he the first
Speaker 1: to do it?
Speaker 3: Did he just drop the ball?
Speaker 5: I want to say, went down and just just dropped
Speaker 5: it because he's like, it's over by the way, it was.
Speaker 1: Mis Thick Overload was who Kyle Kuzma followed.
Speaker 7: And there's like Kyle Kuzma's now following mis Thick Overload,
Speaker 7: and then everyone retweeted, and then he and the it
Speaker 7: was like four hours later, like Kyle Kuzma has unfollowed
Speaker 7: mis thick over.
Speaker 3: That's so tough, y.
Speaker 2: Know, how sick was it when you guys uh had
Speaker 2: your appears on Hard Knocks, We're with You, with You
Speaker 2: out of Camp Barstool?
Speaker 5: That was very you remember though, I'm I'm so paranoid
Speaker 5: that like any media outside of like Barstool is gonna
Speaker 5: just like rip us somehow, because we've been burned so
Speaker 5: many times. So I was just like they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: we want to put you in there, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: they're gonna be like here it goes. They're just it's
Speaker 5: it's not like burned. It's just gonna be like they're
Speaker 5: not gonna say, oh, pardon my take. They're gonna be
Speaker 5: like in the controversial you know blog Barstool Sports, right
Speaker 5: like the world outside of your Yeah, cause we've had
Speaker 5: that a million times where it's like someone will come
Speaker 5: and be like, oh, I want to do a piece
Speaker 5: on you guys, and it's just all hip piece.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of turned for you guys,
Speaker 2: Like between that you guys being on the the Nickelodeon
Speaker 2: when we were streaming.
Speaker 1: I was crazy.
Speaker 3: Ask you about that.
Speaker 1: They had no idea, So you're just watching the game
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we were like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck it was.
Speaker 6: Adam Scheffer's soner Too, had introduced us. That would be
Speaker 6: funny if she was like and problematic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That was awesome.
Speaker 3: What if all the things you guys have been doing
Speaker 3: this for so long? What is like the coolest thing?
Speaker 3: You guys were like, holy shit, look.
Speaker 1: At that good question. Been doing this?
Speaker 5: I think probably anytime, like the like the Spotify thing
Speaker 5: that happened last week where I don't know if you
Speaker 5: guys saw they gave Spotify is doing like plaques now,
Speaker 5: So they did Joe Rogan and like a try crime
Speaker 5: podcast had like five hundred million downloads and then we
Speaker 5: get a silver plat because we're like two hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 5: It was like us and like three other crime podcasts.
Speaker 5: Those moments are always like holy shit, like that's very
Speaker 5: crazy and.
Speaker 3: That's big time.
Speaker 2: You guys have lived in that Spotify top three for
Speaker 2: I mean as long as I can remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's been We've been pretty fortunate.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, maybe the cool thing is at
Speaker 6: the at the start of the football season this year.
Speaker 6: I think it was opening Sunday. I wake up in
Speaker 6: the morning and I have a text on my phone.
Speaker 6: It's sent to me in Big Cat from Chris Berman. Yeah,
Speaker 6: just wishing us a happy start to the regulation. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like enjoy this boys picks off today. And I'm like, wait, Chris,
Speaker 6: like the guy I used to tune in and watch
Speaker 6: every Sunday morning, is like reaching out and personally welcoming
Speaker 6: me to the twenty twenty four NFL season.
Speaker 3: That is awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like like Boomer Like even Jerry O'Connell, who
Speaker 5: we interviewed, Jerry O'Connell. The first time we interviewed him,
Speaker 5: we just said yes because we we had like kind
Speaker 5: of a policy where it's like if the person, if
Speaker 5: it's in person, we'll just say yes and see how
Speaker 5: it goes. And like an interview like that, we're like,
Speaker 5: he doesn't know sports, he's just gonna talk about acting.
Speaker 5: And then he's become like a like institution in the
Speaker 5: fabric of like our little world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we type of things are so cool.
Speaker 6: We tried to cancel that interview, yeah, the very first one. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because me and Big Cat love to cancel plans.
Speaker 1: It is. It's the most fun.
Speaker 6: And uh we finally got a booker that that would
Speaker 6: slip the cancel plans hold and shout out Kelly. She
Speaker 6: would like holdus accountable. And we told her like the
Speaker 6: morning of yeah, I don't really want to do this
Speaker 6: interview today, and she was like, you're doing this fucking interview. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I booked it, like okay, yes, ma'am. And Jerry came
Speaker 6: in and just blew us away. We're like, we love
Speaker 6: this guy, yeah, and yeah he's Jerry's a good guy.
Speaker 1: You guys don't like canceling plans.
Speaker 5: Best feeling when you like forget plans when you have
Speaker 5: like an interview where it's like, all right, I want
Speaker 5: to do this interview, but it's not like a I
Speaker 5: have to do this interview and it's like, oh, the
Speaker 5: person can't do it.
Speaker 1: Another hour of just doing nothing. I could do anything
Speaker 1: with this free hour.
Speaker 3: That one chair in the gambling cave.
Speaker 1: It's the same.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing of like trying to find a
Speaker 5: movie on a Friday night with your wife being like
Speaker 5: oh what are we getting there?
Speaker 1: Like, ah, fuck it, I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Watch a movie, and like you know, give up two hours,
Speaker 5: Let's just watch seven episodes of the Office, Like, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't have time to sit down and watch a movie.
Speaker 5: Let me just sit down for three and a half
Speaker 5: hours and watch South Carolina and Clubs.
Speaker 6: Like, who do you guys have scheduled for Friday of
Speaker 6: this week?
Speaker 3: Fridays we're leaving?
Speaker 1: Oh potentially, so that's it. We'll never see you again.
Speaker 3: That well, that's up to you.
Speaker 1: We're doing a four day work week. It's actually coming
Speaker 1: up to you, guys.
Speaker 3: That will be an open door policy.
Speaker 6: Then then tour stayed open planning program.
Speaker 2: There's some program going on Friday morning, and we might
Speaker 2: have an interview.
Speaker 3: Wait, because if it doesn't happen, it's I know, it
Speaker 3: may be.
Speaker 6: A big interview.
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, yeah, potentially.
Speaker 6: Bryson who Bryson, Oh, Bryson d Chambo? Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Come on, who is that Bryon Chambo?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, there.
Speaker 5: He is right there, bro Yeah yeah yeah, Bryce Shamba
Speaker 5: its bombs.
Speaker 1: Wait, So when does the deal actually end?
Speaker 2: The end of this month, the end of February. So
Speaker 2: so this is like the week of like the going
Speaker 2: away week. It feels like it's over after this week,
Speaker 2: but it's technically not over until the.
Speaker 1: End of February. Got it? And then what is going
Speaker 1: to change? Is anything going to change?
Speaker 2: Not really?
Speaker 6: No, Okay, it's like you got you're going from wearing
Speaker 6: the green dot to now coaching the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought about that. Yeah, do you get mad?
Speaker 1: Will has CEO of busting on his LinkedIn.
Speaker 3: Someone told me the other day too, Wills.
Speaker 5: Someone posted Will's uh, Will's uh, Like you see some
Speaker 5: of the bios in the list of things that he
Speaker 5: did in college, and it was like he put himself.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, worked with clients and then
Speaker 1: parentheses beast.
Speaker 2: Something like parking the car.
Speaker 3: Linked in like a week ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Will Ceo. So nothing's gonna change.
Speaker 3: No, nothing is going to change.
Speaker 1: These guys all all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're getting a pay raise the rocks after this conversation,
Speaker 3: but there's negotiations going on.
Speaker 6: You're they like that people get today?
Speaker 1: Did they buy you guys lunch?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I get you has coffees.
Speaker 1: No, he says no. You say yes, and he knows
Speaker 1: we get them lunch. Who brought the last catered lunch?
Speaker 2: You brought it to the show?
Speaker 3: Who did them some cat bagels last week.
Speaker 6: Think about us, think about us as we take care
Speaker 6: of our but we take care of I just I
Speaker 6: just dropped one hundred twenty bucks on lunch for all
Speaker 6: the boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, because I believe in them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we take care of her.
Speaker 6: We got five, Yeah, we get five guys. I had
Speaker 6: Smashburger the other day. Guy, have you had Smashburger? Smash
Speaker 6: Burger is really I think Smashburger's next up.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I go five guys in and out?
Speaker 3: We're doing this.
Speaker 1: I think in and out's over it.
Speaker 3: This is the first time.
Speaker 2: What we're just spitball.
Speaker 1: We're just talking.
Speaker 6: No, but you guys, have you have you had smashed
Speaker 6: five guys?
Speaker 1: Are you guys?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: I've never had smash Burger.
Speaker 3: No, there's a time.
Speaker 1: Very good.
Speaker 5: All right, So yeah, let's talk about burger. So I
Speaker 5: didn't in it out? Have you guys done this? I'm
Speaker 5: sorry if you guys don't. Yeah, Okay, In and out
Speaker 5: I mean I get in some weird energy here. In
Speaker 5: and out is the best burger. But the fries are.
Speaker 1: A little overright, I agree with all that.
Speaker 6: Okay, the fries at five guys are so good. And
Speaker 6: they give you so much of them. Yes, they fill
Speaker 6: up the bat.
Speaker 3: But the burger, we're talking about burger.
Speaker 1: We're just talking about We're talking about the burgers going out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be I really thought about.
Speaker 6: I think five guys is better burger. They get all
Speaker 6: the toppings on there, the topics.
Speaker 3: That's what I remember the conversation a long time ago
Speaker 3: about this. But if you give me too many options
Speaker 3: for the burger, now that we have a problem because
Speaker 3: I get too excited about the options.
Speaker 1: And then we just know what you want. I need to be.
Speaker 3: Told how to have my burger. What was the other
Speaker 3: your little sub combinations? Yeah, and give me like four
Speaker 3: or five combinations. I'll pick one you like.
Speaker 6: Choke me out, Ronald McDonald will tell me what I
Speaker 6: want to tell me what I around on the lead?
Speaker 2: What was? Oh?
Speaker 5: Do you guys think that the NFL players would be
Speaker 5: better at NBA or the NBA players.
Speaker 3: Prepared for this podcast than he did.
Speaker 2: He couldn't wait.
Speaker 1: We told me he couldn't find us all the debates,
Speaker 1: I mean, sprinkle it.
Speaker 2: Just replay the hits.
Speaker 6: Yeah, offensive tackle, yeah, I think yeah, that seventy with
Speaker 6: your your your heaviest.
Speaker 3: Three sixteen, three sixteen the episode heaviest ever was what
Speaker 3: did that feel? So it was terrible? I was more
Speaker 3: like A, I mean three, I'll wait to three twelve.
Speaker 3: I got over three twelve.
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta did you tell the story?
Speaker 5: It might have been someone else like saying like in
Speaker 5: college you had to wake up in the middle of
Speaker 5: the night to eat.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah it was. That's brutal shots of olive oil.
Speaker 3: But Peter take at the alfredo pasta chicken.
Speaker 1: Oh, Lebron would be a great tight end. That's true
Speaker 1: in high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: When the football guys were at the game the other
Speaker 2: night and he's like standing next to him, that is like.
Speaker 1: A I don't think though.
Speaker 5: Tell me this. If you put Wemby he's seven what
Speaker 5: seven or something? Seven six wings, you put Wemby goal
Speaker 5: line package, he just takes one step and he throw
Speaker 5: it up to him. Who's defending that? But do you
Speaker 5: like the ball?
Speaker 1: That's pass interference?
Speaker 3: No? Not if he's on a defensive lineman. You say
Speaker 3: defense lineman, No.
Speaker 5: No, no, I'm taking he's tight end. He's out wide. He
Speaker 5: put him out wide. He's a wide receiver. All right,
Speaker 5: and he just takes a step and you just throw
Speaker 5: the ball up. He's got his hands go up to
Speaker 5: like ten feet that he can touch the rim, standing
Speaker 5: on his standing on.
Speaker 3: Two time basketball players are brought up in football. I
Speaker 3: think a Draymond Green in the spring game at Michigan State.
Speaker 1: What happened then?
Speaker 3: He didn't get bullied? He got bullied, He was out wide.
Speaker 3: He got hemmed up by someone. Waste.
Speaker 1: You don't think NBA guys could play I do not.
Speaker 6: Think what about the white guys in the NBA. If
Speaker 6: you were to make a team of all white NBA
Speaker 6: players playing football, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think quality basket a quality football team.
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Speaker 1: Can you guys name ten NBA players? Don't use lebron steph.
Speaker 2: For KD No, Kevin Duran was gonna be my first.
Speaker 1: We got t Wall?
Speaker 3: Will is thinking play that play that clip of Raymond Green? Nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was huge. It was literally Luca Uh Joel
Speaker 1: embiid yeap that's three?
Speaker 3: Doesn't really the horny guy.
Speaker 2: I'm trying, Who's play for New Orleans? It's gone.
Speaker 3: Play for New Orleans?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: John Wall?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 3: Is he still playing?
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing still?
Speaker 3: Five? No, I'm Taylor really, I'm really enjoying.
Speaker 5: Get us one Tailor, Get us one Tailor, John Moran, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you're on fire right now.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: No, dude, I gotta do you guys make your pancakes.
Speaker 3: I'm panicking.
Speaker 2: Butler Wait, wait yeah, Butler, what you know?
Speaker 1: Butler? Wait?
Speaker 6: What Butler?
Speaker 2: Jimmy Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seven seven everyone calls him Butler, Butler.
Speaker 3: It's Chris bo. No, he's not.
Speaker 1: It's like seven years ago.
Speaker 3: Question, dumb question, Damn bro.
Speaker 1: Singing some I don't know.
Speaker 2: LaMelo ball Yeah, Bronnie Bronnie.
Speaker 1: Yeah that cot one more one more. He's like, did
Speaker 1: I heard say Lebron Anthony Davis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we go fuck yeah, hey Browny.
Speaker 3: Sports podcast man, we do all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't wait to see him. Wait, so guy,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the NBA this off season and trying
Speaker 3: to figure it out. Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so so three years, one hundred and forty million,
Speaker 5: are you guys gonna come back?
Speaker 1: Mark?
Speaker 2: Mark Titis is on the case right saying just one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty million.
Speaker 5: You just started saying it, and I was so drunk.
Speaker 5: I was like, you will lie to me? What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, you see what I'm rocking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I stepped in cake and hey those are nice.
Speaker 3: You actually got them for that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there, that is awesome. I stepped in cake
Speaker 1: and threw them out. So people were mad at me for.
Speaker 2: I see I had the cake on the bottom. I
Speaker 2: just I still took.
Speaker 1: Him to him out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was good, had a really good time.
Speaker 3: I was how was Will's heartfelt message?
Speaker 5: It was good, except we were so drunk and we
Speaker 5: had a random guy in the background.
Speaker 1: It was I mean, we all knew it was going
Speaker 1: to get to the heartfelt spot.
Speaker 6: I gotta be honest, I don't remember the heartfelt conversation
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 1: Really, I'm not not a word.
Speaker 6: I'm sure if it got played back from it and
Speaker 6: be like, oh yeah, this sounds familiar.
Speaker 3: But when I saw it on Twitter, will post it
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh God, this is gonna be
Speaker 3: tough to watch. I thought it was beautiful. Yeah it was.
Speaker 5: It was just you know, we all knew it was
Speaker 5: gonna go that way. He's like, you get drunk with
Speaker 5: your boys to drink someone's vomit and then you say
Speaker 5: you love bro.
Speaker 2: I forgot that. We did the vomitry.
Speaker 3: Did you drink any Yes.
Speaker 2: This cat Deutsch he can guy that. Yeah, he can
Speaker 2: eat a bunch of ice cream and then he throws
Speaker 2: it up and he's like, I swear it tastes like
Speaker 2: a milkshake.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They had pass it around and he's doing everybody's doing
Speaker 2: like a spoon tasting of this milk.
Speaker 1: We all tried it. Yeah, he did you do it?
Speaker 5: He told us like six hours before when we did
Speaker 5: the regular react that day, and when he told us,
Speaker 5: we're just like, well, it's gonna lead to me eating
Speaker 5: someone's vomit later. Yeah, And that's how it did Yeah,
Speaker 5: are we where are we at with beer Olympics? Are
Speaker 5: we invited?
Speaker 3: Are you guys going to commit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We committed?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, we.
Speaker 1: Never backed out.
Speaker 3: There's there's countless clicks. I don't know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: List and then we stayed. We we never said we're.
Speaker 3: Out you guys are you guys were patting us on
Speaker 3: the head.
Speaker 1: We never said we were out here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did we complain about having to do it and
Speaker 5: can yeah?
Speaker 2: Be real shame. But I remember Big Cat texting me
Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, no more bad vibes, no more,
Speaker 2: no more bullshit, Like I'm in, We're in the foxhole.
Speaker 2: And I remember being like, I'm really happy you're saying
Speaker 2: this because when Dave pulled all that production, it's like
Speaker 2: we were in hell. Yeah, and then the first movie,
Speaker 2: we have to do something is a good move.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun. If you're doing it again, I.
Speaker 5: Think this is the last one, right, allegedly. I mean,
Speaker 5: I can't drink beer anymore, Like I drink ten beers.
Speaker 5: I puked, So I'm in.
Speaker 1: But I'm pute.
Speaker 3: I just make yourself puked though.
Speaker 1: I know I just can't. I'm just old, are you
Speaker 1: guys are used to always?
Speaker 6: I mean, where's he going to be in Nashville.
Speaker 3: It'll be in Nashville. I'm in my backyard.
Speaker 1: I mean, can we not do the three beer chug
Speaker 1: to start? No, that's hard for me.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, be qu Elson. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 3: the three beer chug is so elite. I think it's
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a great like, let's get going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, we're getting to spread. Here's my you have.
Speaker 6: You have offensive linemen out there, and they're able to
Speaker 6: drink these beers.
Speaker 2: Would you be Quintin Elson?
Speaker 1: So many times you was just like, dude, I got it.
Speaker 3: The most infuriated I was. And that whole thing was
Speaker 3: the end of the night when Will was pissing me
Speaker 3: off beyond belief because I just want to finish the
Speaker 3: game because it's dark. The whole goal going to Beer
Speaker 3: Olympics was, Hey, we got to finish before dusk. That
Speaker 3: is like pretty much the goal. And I'm already mad
Speaker 3: at Will because he's yelling at the other people, and
Speaker 3: then out of.
Speaker 1: Nowhere you come.
Speaker 3: And you start whistling everything that I'm thinking, Dude, I'm
Speaker 3: about to beat this guy was working for it.
Speaker 2: I know he's helping us.
Speaker 3: Stop.
Speaker 5: You guys were doing a huddle and I whistled you
Speaker 5: and gave you a technical and you're like, what's that for?
Speaker 5: Is like I thought you guys were kids and Taylor.
Speaker 5: Taylor looked at me and I was just like you
Speaker 5: outright so mad? Yeah, Will thought it was on his side.
Speaker 3: It was he's helping us, Taylor, he's helping us.
Speaker 1: He's helping us.
Speaker 3: Like bro, he's not down.
Speaker 6: I want to do barstool Columbia, the Cocaine Olympics, the
Speaker 6: Cigarette Olympics. Such a great idea would be incredible to
Speaker 6: like trick shots, blowing rings with a big bong hit
Speaker 6: of just cigarette smoke.
Speaker 5: Can you just make a rule though, next year if
Speaker 5: I puke, I can keep playing because like that's the
Speaker 5: thing is like I'll puke, but it's just to get
Speaker 5: more room, like I can keep drinking after.
Speaker 2: It, like your stomach's I want to say something like
Speaker 2: you know, Ike, and then I just I wanted to
Speaker 2: keep drinking, and they're like, you can't get back in
Speaker 2: the game. Puke was supposed to be okay, back to
Speaker 2: two years ago. I want to say Hardy's wife puked
Speaker 2: and people were up in arms about people puke and
Speaker 2: they're like that shouldn't be allowed. One.
Speaker 5: I mean at that point when I puked this time,
Speaker 5: it was like twelve beers in an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: It's like, I need some more room.
Speaker 2: You know who I feel like it has to play?
Speaker 2: You know how I feel like he has to play?
Speaker 3: Who has to play? Max?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's our shirt. It's your sure, Yeah, that's our shirt.
Speaker 3: If Sham defected to barstool in a month, what would
Speaker 3: you do with shir Would you replace anything?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 3: Replace on every every show, every single show.
Speaker 6: Was so sick to him, Cut him loose, yeah whatever
Speaker 6: you Yeah, you have our support.
Speaker 3: You can't have him do that.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need.
Speaker 3: It's a bad idea. I've seen this guy.
Speaker 1: No, he's sure free reign, you get anything he wants.
Speaker 3: Dank Sure, that sounds kind of nice.
Speaker 1: I'd probably leave to pretty good idea.
Speaker 3: That idea. You'd come back to us in a month,
Speaker 3: be like they gave me way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One thing about good managers, you hire talented people and
Speaker 6: you let them do their thing and you trust them.
Speaker 1: That's what we would do. We don't put them in.
Speaker 3: A have to.
Speaker 1: You can't can't open.
Speaker 3: The box a little bit, you can't put it all
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 1: No, I want them flying everywhere. Let them right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just write down the number and slide me number
Speaker 5: and I'll let you know if we can do it.
Speaker 5: The Olympics, Yeah, I think, are you in because I
Speaker 5: because I heard it was the last one. I have
Speaker 5: to be there for the last men. I mean I
Speaker 5: wanted to be the last one because I want to
Speaker 5: go and just be like, let's one rule.
Speaker 3: Do this one rule. And this is me just looking
Speaker 3: at no Vegas. No no Vegas for sure, but keep
Speaker 3: it up in mind. We can't let it will be
Speaker 3: doing part of my take after the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Listen. Incredible for all of us because there was we.
Speaker 3: Were upstairs and you're like, hey, will come and show
Speaker 3: you I do it even in my junks. Your brothers
Speaker 3: were I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: That was a very regrettable episode of brothers don't do
Speaker 1: it often.
Speaker 3: That was very well.
Speaker 6: Have you heard from JJ Reddick since that podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: What he said on the mat he did, we didn't
Speaker 5: cut it. It actually might have been yes, And I
Speaker 5: had to tell him. I was like, you actually know,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, we'll call No, you haven't talked to me.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm sorry, we'll called you. We're cutting this,
Speaker 5: and then in his head he's like, well I know
Speaker 5: these guys, they don't cut anything. It's like no, no,
Speaker 5: I like, I'm actually sorry. And so we had like
Speaker 5: a back and forth. It was just like will what
Speaker 5: are you doing? Why are you know?
Speaker 1: Podcast?
Speaker 2: Whatever he needs he knows I got him sure.
Speaker 1: Let me see the number. We'll get a number.
Speaker 6: We'll get mad at us for just we were talking
Speaker 6: about the Lakers. He's like selling you guys, don't look
Speaker 6: JJ ready to fight us. It's a fox old guy.
Speaker 1: Let's see what.
Speaker 6: Because he does organic, because he's talented, that's it. That's
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's no problem.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Approve no, no, no, no, double it. That's betweens. I thought
Speaker 5: it would be double. I was expecting double. That bad
Speaker 5: negotiating on his app. This is we got sure them.
Speaker 1: On a cheap deal.
Speaker 3: It's locked.
Speaker 1: If he wants to that number is to move.
Speaker 3: Damn. You don't want get lost it like that Younglis Chicago.
Speaker 1: You gonna hit on your on every single day.
Speaker 5: A lot of stuff, dude. He asked for fifty K.
Speaker 5: You guys pay him thirty? How many him thirty?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 1: Is gonna have a great article about this, It's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be how many different guys have you had work on
Speaker 2: part of my take, like behind the scenes or producer
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 6: It is really not that many when you when you
Speaker 6: think about all the years interns counting to Yeah, Darren
Speaker 6: Ravel No, Dana was an intern, uh Ken jack mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Hank. So the first like two years, Hank had to
Speaker 1: do everything, which was crazy. So it was like the
Speaker 1: beginning of part of my take.
Speaker 5: We we got very big, and we all moved to
Speaker 5: New York and it was like kind of a everyone
Speaker 5: was trying to find their spot in barstool and we
Speaker 5: kept on being like, I think this is working.
Speaker 1: I think this is pretty big.
Speaker 5: We need some more help, And we didn't get more
Speaker 5: help for a while, and then finally we got Liam
Speaker 5: Bubba and then Max and then now we have Memes, Pug,
Speaker 5: Shane Jackson, I think seven of us now, so it's
Speaker 5: pretty like grew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like all the jps you guys got.
Speaker 2: How How fast did you guys start blowing up for
Speaker 2: when was your very first episode was that in the
Speaker 2: in the van.
Speaker 6: No, it was in my in my living room in Austin.
Speaker 1: I would say it was probably like two much.
Speaker 5: It was actually the very biggest for the moment was
Speaker 5: we had a guy named Kyle wilcher On who played
Speaker 5: a Kentucky then transferred to Gonzaga, and Gonzaga I think
Speaker 5: was maybe the two seed that year in the tournament
Speaker 5: good basketball player. He came on and he told us
Speaker 5: that Adam Morrison had a apocalypse bunker, and that got
Speaker 5: picked up by everyone and it kind of like blew
Speaker 5: us up. And then Adam Morrison was like, no, I
Speaker 5: don't like people think I'm crazy. And then we had
Speaker 5: Adam Morrison on. He became a friend, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 5: So that was like the first big pop. And then
Speaker 5: it was Joe Buck and SVP. Later that summer Blake
Speaker 5: Griffin Yeah we love our Blakes. Yeah, Mortals like so
Speaker 5: it was probably like six months that it was like,
Speaker 5: oh shit. And then there was also this weird thing where, uh,
Speaker 5: the old the way they used to do the old podcast.
Speaker 5: It was like was it through iHeart yeah something it
Speaker 5: was it was somewhere podcast won. It was something where
Speaker 5: the numbers were not real, like they were just inflated.
Speaker 1: So I remember I think our Jim Harbaught episode, they.
Speaker 5: Were like like four million people listened to it like
Speaker 5: that's not possible.
Speaker 1: There's just no way that happened.
Speaker 5: And then they like adjusted it and it was like actually
Speaker 5: it was like you know, seven hundred thousands, Like okay,
Speaker 5: that's a realistic number.
Speaker 1: That's so pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: Was it just audio?
Speaker 5: H Yeah, it was. We don't we didn't do YouTube
Speaker 5: for because we only had Hank.
Speaker 6: No, we had we had a video for Harball, right, yeah,
Speaker 6: for some of the for some of the special ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a trip, and we do like clips and stuff,
Speaker 5: but yeah, Hank, because it was just Hank, we didn't
Speaker 5: do YouTube.
Speaker 6: The only video clips that we'd ever have would be
Speaker 6: like occasionally somebody was a kinjack that would make the
Speaker 6: videos that went along with it. Yeah, So it was
Speaker 6: like not even stick figure animation. It was just like
Speaker 6: here's a picture of Big Cat as he's talking, his
Speaker 6: picture of me. Here's a picture of whatever it is
Speaker 6: that we're talking about, like Chris Jones with his stick
Speaker 6: popping out, and we make a video that way. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it was not like a video podcast at all at
Speaker 6: the start. I remember when when I first moved to
Speaker 6: New York, because I moved there from Austin, Texas, and
Speaker 6: like Barstool is now, it's massive in Austin, it wasn't
Speaker 6: that big from what I saw at the time back
Speaker 6: in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. But when I moved
Speaker 6: to New York, I went out for wings at this
Speaker 6: place called Woji's, which is my favorite wing place in
Speaker 6: New York. And I go there like the first week
Speaker 6: I'm in town, and the server comes up to me
Speaker 6: and he's wearing a shirt that says gas and beers
Speaker 6: and chuck and nuts, and that's what Ryan Whitney had
Speaker 6: told us on the pod like three weeks ago. Were like,
Speaker 6: that's a great saying, let's make T shirts out of it.
Speaker 6: I was like, holy fuck, this guy has like our
Speaker 6: obscure T shirt. He's like the first waiter that I
Speaker 6: see in New York. And little did I know that
Speaker 6: that was going to be, like, you know, a very
Speaker 6: common thing. But when I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 6: this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: This guy.
Speaker 6: This guy knows about the spit in Situate, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that was, Yeah, those little moments where it's like,
Speaker 5: oh shit, starting to get recognized.
Speaker 2: Now when you guys are blowing up kind of like grassroots.
Speaker 2: Like was it like social media like Twitter and stuff
Speaker 2: where you guys are getting everything out there? Is it
Speaker 2: like redded Are these back channels?
Speaker 5: No, it was mostly just social media and like word
Speaker 5: of mouth. And I think we were just we were
Speaker 5: very lucky that we came around in a time twenty
Speaker 5: sixteen where there weren't a ton of podcasts and we
Speaker 5: were very unique in the fact that we were two
Speaker 5: dudes just having fun with sports and do it. Like
Speaker 5: Another one that was I feel like is like a
Speaker 5: seminal moment is I don't know if you guys, you
Speaker 5: guys probably don't know anything about to say. But this
Speaker 5: guy named foul Ball Guy catches basically a million foul balls.
Speaker 1: Like he's the best to ever do it, literally to
Speaker 1: ever do it.
Speaker 6: He does clinics on how to catch it.
Speaker 1: He's the best. He'll go to a game and he'll
Speaker 1: get like five foul balls.
Speaker 3: Mentally, he just finds the right seat.
Speaker 1: He knows where he's sitting.
Speaker 5: He became home run Guy because he started catching home
Speaker 5: runs too Zach Campbell. So there was a over the summer,
Speaker 5: there was a baseball game in an Army base MLB game,
Speaker 5: and it was tickets were only for like veterans and
Speaker 5: active service members, and he somehow got in. And then
Speaker 5: it became this huge, huge controversy where the other guy
Speaker 5: we had in our back pocket, Marlins Man, who would
Speaker 5: just go to games and just be seen sitting in
Speaker 5: the front row. He'd go to like a World Series
Speaker 5: game and he would just be sitting in the front
Speaker 5: row with his Marlin shirt on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: So they had a beef and then we had them
Speaker 5: both on to squash the beef. And it's really stupid
Speaker 5: saying it out loud, but like, those are the moments
Speaker 5: that I think helped those growths. People are like, what
Speaker 5: is this show? Like, what the They were really.
Speaker 1: Mad at each other. They were so many Marlin, what
Speaker 1: was the beast? Marlin's man.
Speaker 5: So, Marlin's man, he never makes it about himself. He
Speaker 5: just likes to go to games, sit front row beyond
Speaker 5: TV believers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, and he was mad because the game at the
Speaker 5: base would have been prime Marlin's Man sitting on TV.
Speaker 5: But he was like, I'm respecting the troops. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to try to get a ticket. A foul ball
Speaker 5: guy did get atriot. So he was just like this bullshit,
Speaker 5: I should have been there again, not making about himself,
Speaker 5: just sitting on.
Speaker 3: So he was met that guy was there and he
Speaker 3: wasn't there.
Speaker 6: I think that he stood for integrity. He was just
Speaker 6: upset that foul ball guy was there.
Speaker 3: So when it was all said and done, where do
Speaker 3: you guys stand on a foul ball guy?
Speaker 1: In Marlon Mann?
Speaker 5: I love the foul ball Guy is a controversial figure,
Speaker 5: but I think it's one of those things you gotta respect.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like he's the best. He's the best to do it.
Speaker 5: He's the best it's ever been. People get mad at
Speaker 5: the best. That's just the crossy bears.
Speaker 3: Now, if you're taking Marlon Man and foul ball guy,
Speaker 3: you put him in a dark room.
Speaker 1: Who's coming out Marlins Man? I think guys got it.
Speaker 6: He's like a little just if Marlin's Man brings his cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going he's got cats.
Speaker 6: Oh he's got eight giant cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, coon cat.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about Like these cats weigh twenty five thirty
Speaker 6: pounds each.
Speaker 5: And Marlins is a survivor. Yes, marlins Man almost died
Speaker 5: in a plane crash. Marlin's man almost got aboarded.
Speaker 3: Like at birth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he told us all this. Yeah yeah, so he's
Speaker 5: a survivor. He's a survivor. But yeah, twenty sixteen to sell.
Speaker 1: Merch with the barstool logo on it, that was him.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's huge and that really turned the
Speaker 3: company around.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of this company this is this is
Speaker 6: the barstool signed. Yeah, he gave me like that. I mean, no,
Speaker 6: you can't do it.
Speaker 3: It's only well I'm still here right the money.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going stool down, stool it's always this is
Speaker 6: stool down.
Speaker 3: This right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and also be Olympics.
Speaker 1: Look at this bang crowd.
Speaker 5: He just tracks the balls better than anyone. And people
Speaker 5: claim he steals it from kids. He never steals it
Speaker 5: from kids. He wears like he does all the tricks.
Speaker 5: He'll go he'll go to like batting practice and he'll
Speaker 5: have both jerseys, so he'll switch the jerseys and be like, oh,
Speaker 5: can you give me, you know, like Mike Trout and
Speaker 5: his Angels jersey, Like Mike Trout, can I get one?
Speaker 5: And then he'll switch it and be like a Yankees jersey.
Speaker 1: He's like Aaron Judge. Can I have one look at him?
Speaker 1: This respect? Great? Wait? Is that a kid that he's mossing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he never took it from kids. Gotta kids got
Speaker 1: to hit the weight room, kids got to learn what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Look at this right over the kids?
Speaker 1: You know, the kids gared of it? Bang here a kid?
Speaker 2: So what are you guys doing before? Pardon my take?
Speaker 2: I like, how did you guys come across each other?
Speaker 2: Because weren't you you were? Were you right for Pro
Speaker 2: Football Talk?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, I was.
Speaker 6: I was writing for Kissing Susie Colber and s B
Speaker 6: Nation and they were just sports blogs.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: I was blogging for them. I talked about a little
Speaker 6: bit with with Rousillo. But I was a used dog
Speaker 6: salesman in Austin and then I upgraded to selling software
Speaker 6: and then I just hated my job, and.
Speaker 1: So I started this Twitter account like as a.
Speaker 6: Diverse to do something creative, make myself laugh. And then
Speaker 6: eventually I was like, I hate this job. It crushes
Speaker 6: me every day. I just want to try to write.
Speaker 6: And so then I was blogging at the time, so
Speaker 6: like full time, probably like seven eight blogs a week,
Speaker 6: which forgot like big cat, that's that's rookie numbers because.
Speaker 1: We had a lot. Yeah, I was just blogging.
Speaker 2: So you were blogging for barstoo for PFT was yeah.
Speaker 5: So I was at Barcel from twenty twelve and we
Speaker 5: had to do like it was a blog.
Speaker 1: It was a blog every.
Speaker 5: Forty minutes starting at nine am until five and then
Speaker 5: after our blog. So I'd write like ten blogs a
Speaker 5: day and then we I followed PFT, he followed me.
Speaker 5: I was like, this guy's hilarious.
Speaker 2: You just came across him on the internet.
Speaker 5: Well, we started getting people started saying that we were
Speaker 5: like copying each other. They'd be like, oh, that's a
Speaker 5: joke he would have made. That's joke he would have made.
Speaker 5: And then he was in Chicago for a wedding and
Speaker 5: I was like, let's grab a beer and uh we
Speaker 5: we hit it off hanging out, and then we were
Speaker 5: at a point at Barcel where it was like there
Speaker 5: was like eight of us and it was still we
Speaker 5: were so small. So I just told like, I remember
Speaker 5: we had the beer, and I was just like, if
Speaker 5: we ever get to a point where like we're hiring, like, you're.
Speaker 1: The first person I would want us to hire.
Speaker 5: And then when we got bought by Churnin and did
Speaker 5: the whole move to New York, I told David.
Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta hire this guy.
Speaker 2: Is Turnin era or is this where big vision? They're like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna start getting in the podcast world.
Speaker 5: They yeah, podcasting, So KFC radio. Kevin started like podcasting
Speaker 5: at Barstool, which he should get a ton of credit
Speaker 5: for because at the time Dave was like, this is
Speaker 5: a dumb idea. So I did KFC Radio with Feidelberg
Speaker 5: and Kevin for a few years. So yeah, Kevin, Kevin
Speaker 5: had the vision to do it early on. And then yeah,
Speaker 5: when when we got bought and we all moved to
Speaker 5: New York, I was like, we got to hire a
Speaker 5: PFT hired him, hired Caleb, hired a few different people,
Speaker 5: and then we started like the minute I think it
Speaker 5: was like maybe one month into him getting hired, we
Speaker 5: started part of my take and then the rest is
Speaker 5: kind of history.
Speaker 2: Now on KFC Radio, are you guys, is that like
Speaker 2: sports centric or are they No, it was more lifestyle
Speaker 2: and then you were like, hey.
Speaker 5: It was more Yeah, it was more like we would
Speaker 5: do dumb hypothetical shoot the ship and then yeah, so
Speaker 5: then and then we started Barstool. When we got bought
Speaker 5: and all moved to New York, we started adding podcasts
Speaker 5: and yeah, it became kind of the I don't want
Speaker 5: to say we're a podcast company, but obviously that's a
Speaker 5: big part of it.
Speaker 6: So I went back because I haven't looked at these
Speaker 6: probably since they were sent. But the first DMS between
Speaker 6: myself and Big Cat twenty fourteen, April seventeenth, I guess
Speaker 6: the site that I was working for, it looks like
Speaker 6: they got bought by another site. So Big Cat thought
Speaker 6: I was moving to New York and I was like, no,
Speaker 6: I'm in Austin. And then he says, do you write
Speaker 6: chess as freelance? Do you have a regular job outside
Speaker 6: of writing? I was trying to hire them right away.
Speaker 6: I say, I'm freelance. I used to have an outside job,
Speaker 6: trying to make this my career. Big Cat says, that's awesome.
Speaker 6: Start your own site or find a full time gig somewhere.
Speaker 6: I said, I've got an ebook coming out in a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks. If that does well, there are publishers
Speaker 6: who are interested, but right now just scraping by. That
Speaker 6: was goodel Vers Obama the battle for the future of
Speaker 6: the NFL.
Speaker 1: Are you a Southern guy? Originally?
Speaker 6: Barstool South has always been a priority. Wouldn't have to
Speaker 6: hire AFT?
Speaker 1: And then I was.
Speaker 6: And he says, well, if you're ever interested in barsols,
Speaker 6: shoot me an email. Gives me the email. We're always
Speaker 6: looking for writers. Have goals on opening a Southern site.
Speaker 6: And he says, and even if not, email me. I
Speaker 6: have a guy who would be funny if you try
Speaker 6: to start your own website. And then Big Cat sent
Speaker 6: me a picture of him meeting Adam Schefter.
Speaker 1: Oh what was that?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: I think that was outside of the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 5: like tracked him down and maybe I don't even know
Speaker 5: where it was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, awesome. Let's meet at the Theory Bar on
Speaker 6: stateon Hubbard. It's a block from your hotel one thirty.
Speaker 6: I say, sounds good. I'll be the white guy drinking
Speaker 6: a beer found me showing and that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was it.
Speaker 5: And then the first time that he came and hung
Speaker 5: out with us was twenty fifteen, is actually my thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 5: His the day after and we went out and I
Speaker 5: introduced him to Dave and I was like, Dave is
Speaker 5: PFT super talented, Like you know, like how you miss
Speaker 5: I was like to Dave, I was like, you know
Speaker 5: how you misspell stuff and like fucked things up like
Speaker 5: PFD does that, but he's doing it on purpose.
Speaker 6: As Wow, yeah, I think that's San Francisco way back
Speaker 6: in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and then yeah, and then and then Dave
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, let's do it. And then we hired
Speaker 5: a bunch of people and it was kind of a
Speaker 5: rocket ship and then we hired.
Speaker 3: You guys, when you guys, when you get hired there
Speaker 3: and you say one month, how how long did it
Speaker 3: take you guys? It took you guys one month, but
Speaker 3: like how quickly were you like we got to do
Speaker 3: a podcast?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: I when we hired when when I told Dave we
Speaker 5: got to hire a PFD, I was like, we're.
Speaker 3: Doing doing a podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're nice.
Speaker 5: And the and actually an interesting part of this whole
Speaker 5: story is Hank was like very close to putting barstool
Speaker 5: at the time because so he went so Hank didn't.
Speaker 5: He went to college for a year and then started
Speaker 5: at Barsol when he's nineteen. I've known Hanks, he's nineteen
Speaker 5: years old. He uh we did this thing called the
Speaker 5: Dixie Tour where he Caleb uh bus boy Benny and
Speaker 5: they went down to the South. They went like campus
Speaker 5: to campus, big football games whatever. So Hank like spent
Speaker 5: three months, four months just getting fucked up being on
Speaker 5: the road, being like this is what real college looks like.
Speaker 5: And after the Dixie Tour he kind of like sat
Speaker 5: me down. He's like, I'm thinking about maybe like going
Speaker 5: back to college or doing something like kind of having
Speaker 5: almost like a little mini life crisis. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 5: just stick with me for like another year. We're about
Speaker 5: to get bought by Churnin. We're about to hire this
Speaker 5: guy PFT. I want you to produce the podcast. And
Speaker 5: that was the best decision he ever made. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he was very close. He was like we had a
Speaker 5: heart to heart where he was like, I'm thinking about
Speaker 5: leaving barstool and like doing something else. I don't know
Speaker 5: if I could do this, And yeah, so that was
Speaker 5: a good safe What was he thinking, like film school?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think he was thinking film school and he just
Speaker 5: kind of was like not lost, but just a little.
Speaker 5: It also was tough because he was in that Milton
Speaker 5: office and that wasn't they say Milton tough for a reason.
Speaker 1: It was like you're thrown into the ringer where it's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's a pressure cooker.
Speaker 2: Is the Milton office that it was a dentist office
Speaker 2: that Gus posted something last week. I want to say
Speaker 2: it was maybe when Smokes was talking about work hours. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but there was like a clip from like way back
Speaker 2: in the day whitting the guy was like he was
Speaker 2: late a couple of days in at the door, fights
Speaker 2: walks in the door and I thought it was so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's the Milton office. That's the Milton office. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like Gas, Dave, hank Lewis, and there was
Speaker 2: other people like you know, Coley was there for a
Speaker 2: little bit weird haircut, Seth was there, Pirate Simon. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it was kind of like a whole mishmash and that
Speaker 2: was that was the first barstool office that wasn't Dave's
Speaker 2: just apartment. And before before part my take, what was
Speaker 2: the biggest thing going with barstools then?
Speaker 3: Was it just a blog?
Speaker 5: It was blog it was run down, run down, run
Speaker 5: so rundown meet Kevin and Dave. Yeah, I guess that
Speaker 5: ass was pretty big. That ass was pretty big. We
Speaker 5: should bring that back we shut But yeah, it was
Speaker 5: the rundown was like the big thing that was in
Speaker 5: KFC radio.
Speaker 1: But that those are the big things.
Speaker 5: That were kind of like our first foray into video
Speaker 5: and audio and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Was it awkward when part of my take transcended as
Speaker 2: fast as as you guys did, like more from I
Speaker 2: guess your position. Yeah, coming into a new gig and
Speaker 2: probably learning about it on the fly.
Speaker 6: I'm still learning about like the past relationships that I
Speaker 6: had no idea about. Like occasionally Hank Will mentioned something
Speaker 6: was like oh I didn't know that about pirates sound.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awkward. I'll say it. It was awkward.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was awkward in the fact that when we got
Speaker 5: to New York, everyone was kind of looking for their thing,
Speaker 5: and we had our thing very quickly. So it was
Speaker 5: like it was before Dave's like pizza reviews like blew up,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was it was
Speaker 5: just this weird time where I think everyone was really
Speaker 5: hungry and and and like wanting to work really hard
Speaker 5: and try to find something that worked, and we just
Speaker 5: were lucky enough to find the thing that worked before
Speaker 5: everyone else. So I think there was a little tension there.
Speaker 5: But then as time went like everyone kind of found
Speaker 5: their lane and it dissipated, so like naturally dissipated. But
Speaker 5: I mean you can understand, like if everyone's going to
Speaker 5: one place, everyone's moving their family and doing everything, and
Speaker 5: one a couple guys are like hit the ground running
Speaker 5: and just have this like shooting star success, it's gonna
Speaker 5: cause a little tension.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean.
Speaker 5: The crazy thing about Barstool, I think it's like attestament
Speaker 5: to it is like Dave is still doing it. I'm
Speaker 5: still here, Kevin's still here, like Fidelberg, Hank, like Gaz,
Speaker 5: all these guys that were original guys.
Speaker 1: There's a loyalty to Barstool that I.
Speaker 5: Don't think you find it many other companies, and I
Speaker 5: think it's pretty special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to bring up the L word for you guys.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I told you guys, though I had a hard
Speaker 5: tart with both of you. I told you guys straight
Speaker 5: up when you when you were talking about leaving, like
Speaker 5: I can't I can't sit here and be like, man,
Speaker 5: how could you guys do this? Because I came into
Speaker 5: barstool and PFT as well, Because PFT even though I
Speaker 5: was at Barcel for four years before and PFT is
Speaker 5: still like play ten.
Speaker 6: I think maybe we had shirts. Yeah I was like twelve,
Speaker 6: maybe yeah, right, So PFT even though it's like I
Speaker 6: still don't consider myself like I'm not an OG. Right,
Speaker 6: so much stuff happened, but.
Speaker 5: He's as close to an og as you get because
Speaker 5: it's been you know, I was at Parcel four years
Speaker 5: for PFT game, but PFT has been at Parcel for
Speaker 5: nine years, you know what I mean. So but I
Speaker 5: told you guys, like you can't compare it because I
Speaker 5: this is my life's work. This is like my family,
Speaker 5: This is my you know, all these people that I've
Speaker 5: been working with and like they don't depend on me,
Speaker 5: but like part of part of it all working is
Speaker 5: is me staying here and Dave's staying here in PFT
Speaker 5: staying here. We're in a different circumstance than you guys,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like if I were hired
Speaker 5: at Barcel in twenty twenty and had this success, I
Speaker 5: probably would have left too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: I probably would have got and offered something and been like,
Speaker 5: I don't have the same years of of everything built up.
Speaker 5: So but I I mean, I'll never I mean I'll
Speaker 5: never have another boss. Besides Dave, my agent, hates when
Speaker 5: I say that, but I say it, and I don't
Speaker 5: give a fuck because it's just like.
Speaker 2: Do you ever Obviously this is an awkward question. I'm
Speaker 2: putting you in a tough spot, but do you guys
Speaker 2: ever think like, hey, pardon my take, was its own thing?
Speaker 2: Not in a way of like you wish it did happen,
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there there had to have been times
Speaker 2: along the way, especially because when the ESPN thing pretty
Speaker 2: sensitive when it started, and you guys were bummed, but
Speaker 2: ultimately it's like you're going with the brain, You're going
Speaker 2: with the team.
Speaker 6: And we were also like super naive at the time,
Speaker 6: so we we thought this was gonna be cool. Hey,
Speaker 6: we're gonna be on TV. That's awesome TV. At the time,
Speaker 6: like it was still the big thing, right, and we
Speaker 6: had a couple of people tell us, like Dave was
Speaker 6: was insistent that they were trying to hire us. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I me and Big Kel were like, I don't think so.
Speaker 6: I think they just want to I just want to
Speaker 6: do a show with us, which is cool. They were
Speaker 6: definitely and you're thinking there were a million percent Like
Speaker 6: John Skipper brought us into his office and sat us down.
Speaker 6: It was like feeling this out, figure out, like am
Speaker 6: I gonna make these guys an offer or what like
Speaker 6: it was. It was done like kind of behind the back,
Speaker 6: and we were like, why is everything so secret?
Speaker 1: We were so dumb.
Speaker 5: We were like, we're so behind Dave's back kind of
Speaker 5: well yeah, I mean he asked us personally to go
Speaker 5: there and it wasn't like a meeting set up through
Speaker 5: Eric or Dave, and we were just like, oh okay,
Speaker 5: like we the all the other meetings were done like Erica,
Speaker 5: and this was done outside of that. And I think
Speaker 5: back to it and it's like we were so naive,
Speaker 5: we were so stupid. We we I learned so much
Speaker 5: from that experience, the biggest one being like if a
Speaker 5: deal takes eight months nine months to actually happen, they
Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't do the deal, because it was like
Speaker 5: that was that was how long it took to get
Speaker 5: from like ESPN being like, oh we want to do
Speaker 5: a TV show to like getting through all the hoops
Speaker 5: and clearing everything. It's like, if you have to clear everything,
Speaker 5: you probably aren't going to have our back when the
Speaker 5: ship hits the fan. And it turned out to be
Speaker 5: very true, but yeah, we were. We were like, no,
Speaker 5: ESPN doesn't want to hire us, that's crazy. We're just
Speaker 5: gonna do this show and it's gonna be awesome and
Speaker 5: it's gonna make Barstool bigger.
Speaker 1: Right, way wrong, very wrong about that.
Speaker 5: And then and they didn't have our back at all,
Speaker 5: And that was the biggest lesson is like Barstool has
Speaker 5: our back, Our fans have our back. We don't need ESPN,
Speaker 5: we don't need a TV show, we don't need all
Speaker 5: this stuff. Our fans are here, They're gonna stick with
Speaker 5: us no matter what. So why like I actually when
Speaker 5: we and I know it sounds cliche and I think
Speaker 5: both PF and I have said this many times, but
Speaker 5: like going through the Barstool Van Talk thing was the
Speaker 5: best thing for us because once it the dust settled,
Speaker 5: we realized, like we have the number one sports podcast.
Speaker 5: We don't need anything else. We have our fans right here.
Speaker 5: We don't need to go anywhere else. We have it
Speaker 5: to them, We give it to them. We don't have
Speaker 5: anyone telling us what to do. Why would we ever
Speaker 5: mess that up? So every offer since then has been no, thanks.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If that never happens, you guys might be sitting
Speaker 3: here today being like what if Yeah, what if ESPN
Speaker 3: does come or right or whatever?
Speaker 5: And we've had times like I mean, pft's contract's been up.
Speaker 5: I've never become a free agent because I I just haven't.
Speaker 5: But like there's and we're very open with each other
Speaker 5: about it, Like he's when his contract's been up. He's
Speaker 5: just like, I'm gonna at least take some calls like
Speaker 5: I have to. And it's like, yeah, you have.
Speaker 6: To take You take the meetings, and then they throw
Speaker 6: big numbers in front of you.
Speaker 1: At least that is how I felt.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 6: You think about the number, You're like, that's a cool
Speaker 6: number to hear, like that's amazing, and then I think about, Okay, well,
Speaker 6: i'd also be leaving part of my take if that
Speaker 6: were to happen. The show means a lot to me.
Speaker 6: We started it, we've seen it grow, we put so
Speaker 6: much effort into it. I love these guys. I love
Speaker 6: our fans, I don't like I feel a sense of
Speaker 6: responsibility to them too, where it's like I had bands
Speaker 6: and shows that I love growing up and if they
Speaker 6: split up, like it really like affected you a little
Speaker 6: bit committed to it. There's a lot of people out
Speaker 6: there that feel that way, and like that was a
Speaker 6: big part of saying like, no, I don't necessarily need
Speaker 6: to chase this huge number Parsceol. By the way, it's
Speaker 6: not like Barstol wasn't paying fair like they they made
Speaker 6: good offers, but they were you know, other companies were
Speaker 6: trying to throw big, big dollars and I was just like,
Speaker 6: you know what. Number one, I don't feel like breaking
Speaker 6: up this podcast. I don't feel like ending it. We're
Speaker 6: not done here. And number two, it would come with
Speaker 6: a lot more responsibility. And part of making this decision
Speaker 6: for me was you have to know what you like
Speaker 6: to do, and I like doing the show. I like
Speaker 6: the creative aspect, I like everything that goes with that.
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm good at starting my own company,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't think I'm good at hiring people
Speaker 6: and and like, you know, keeping tabs on the administrative
Speaker 6: side of all that. That to me doesn't sound like fun,
Speaker 6: and I think that the show that I would create
Speaker 6: would suffer because I'm not, you know, just totally locked
Speaker 6: in on the creative aspect. And so it was a
Speaker 6: combination of all those things. And also like there's no
Speaker 6: better job in the world in my opinion than than
Speaker 6: doing part of my taking. So yeah, it became The
Speaker 6: first time was like kind of hard to say no.
Speaker 6: The second time I was like.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't even stake the meetings, like we're going to
Speaker 6: figure something out. It'll happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think too when you look back at
Speaker 5: other shows, was whether it be like Mike and Mike
Speaker 5: or Jesus and Marrow and like no offense to those guys,
Speaker 5: but you can see what happens with the break or
Speaker 5: like Mike Our Francess and Mad Dog, like Belichick and
Speaker 5: Brady you can see. But all these breakups you can
Speaker 5: see exactly what happens. There's one person that thinks they're
Speaker 5: the star and they're like, I want to go get
Speaker 5: my thing. I'm bigger than you and this whereas like
Speaker 5: I know, like personally, I think PFT feels the same way.
Speaker 5: If we split up, would I be able to have
Speaker 5: a successful podcast. Yeah, but it would be like sixty
Speaker 5: percent of or fifty percent or forty percent of what
Speaker 5: part of my take is. We would never separately be
Speaker 5: able to reach one hundred percent of what part might take.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a big part of it. Like if
Speaker 6: I were to leave, I could start a show. It
Speaker 6: could be good, but it would never and honestly, it
Speaker 6: would never surpass what part of my take was, and
Speaker 6: I would always be trying to chase that.
Speaker 5: Right, Right, it's not a healthy us each of us separately,
Speaker 5: if you if you just said round numbers, like if
Speaker 5: you're going one hundred percent, I think each of us
Speaker 5: separately would reach seventy percent of our audience right. Separately,
Speaker 5: we would never get a hundred, right, And like, so
Speaker 5: it's the powers together, is like you like, I just
Speaker 5: know that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Neither of us are the star so to speak, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like we're like, oh, it's because of me, it's the
Speaker 5: whole thing, right, And it's all the guys too. Like
Speaker 5: the great thing about our show too, is like Hank
Speaker 5: is a very big part of it. He gets like
Speaker 5: he actually gets upset because we we like like when
Speaker 5: it comes to like money and stuff or like things
Speaker 5: are splitting up, we'll split it a third third. With Hank,
Speaker 5: he's like, I didn't do shit. We're like, dude, but
Speaker 5: you're like, you're a big part of this. You you
Speaker 5: built this with us in Max and means all these guys, Yeah,
Speaker 5: did you hear that?
Speaker 1: Hank?
Speaker 5: He does, so he gets mad at us when we
Speaker 5: do like I mean it's not for it's not we're
Speaker 5: not talking about like our contracts. We're talking about like
Speaker 5: when we have revenue splits for things, we always make
Speaker 5: sure everyone else gets them because like we.
Speaker 1: Can't do this with just the two of us, like
Speaker 1: it's the whole team.
Speaker 3: But if you get so that's awesome because I agree
Speaker 3: with you, like having the chemistry is way more than
Speaker 3: just going off and trying to do your own thing right.
Speaker 3: Part of my take has been on the top for
Speaker 3: so long, like what what's the next thing? You guys
Speaker 3: are trying to chase, Like what is the next Like, oh,
Speaker 3: this would be awesome to achieve this.
Speaker 6: I don't know that we think that way. I think
Speaker 6: we let the show evolve naturally depending on what's happening.
Speaker 6: You can plan everything out and if it doesn't happen organically,
Speaker 6: then it's not going to be that successful. But yeah,
Speaker 6: we're just going to keep doing what we do and
Speaker 6: try to find like the most natural paths for us
Speaker 6: to evolve. It Like, if there's new platform that comes
Speaker 6: out that we have to be on, then we'll find
Speaker 6: somebody that knows about that platform and we'll figure out
Speaker 6: how to optimize that. But I don't think that we've
Speaker 6: never sat down and had like a strategic like two
Speaker 6: year what's our what's our two year plan? Well?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's a very it's a weird
Speaker 5: feeling because in the media business, in sports and anything
Speaker 5: in business ever, a lot of people are always like
Speaker 5: what's the next thing, what's the next thing, what's the
Speaker 5: next thing? You see like someone a media person like
Speaker 5: STARTUPO and they're on ESPN and they're doing this, and
Speaker 5: it's like they're climbing the ladder.
Speaker 1: The bb the barstool.
Speaker 5: Van Talk's experience kind of told us like, hey, we're
Speaker 5: good where we're at on the ladder, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like we're never gonna be movie stars, We're
Speaker 5: never gonna have, you know, a Netflix show. But I
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck like where we're like it's I
Speaker 5: think it's a very great feeling to have to be
Speaker 5: like at peace at what you have and not constantly
Speaker 5: being like, what's the next thing. I haven't thought about
Speaker 5: what's the next thing since barstool Van Talk, and it's
Speaker 5: been the best feeling in the world, because what's the
Speaker 5: next thing? It's Sunday night, Tuesday night, Thursday night.
Speaker 1: We're gonna record.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I you know, obviously, in the back of
Speaker 5: my head, I'm like, we're getting older. Eventually we'll hit
Speaker 5: a point where people start mocking us and be like,
Speaker 5: you're the old guys.
Speaker 1: But we also have an audience that's grown old with us,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, and I.
Speaker 5: Welcome the time when we just get mocked for being
Speaker 5: old and forgetting shit. Guess what, We're gonna keep doing
Speaker 5: it and it's still gonna be fun. If I'm having
Speaker 5: fun and I'm laughing, making me laugh, I'm making him laugh,
Speaker 5: We're gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 6: And if people are busting bulls for being old, it
Speaker 6: means they're still paying attention, We're still listening, right, and
Speaker 6: they're busting their balls because it's fun to make fun
Speaker 6: of people. That you listen to. Right, I get that
Speaker 6: you can't take everything seriously. It's when they just stop
Speaker 6: commenting altogether, right, that would be the That would be bad.
Speaker 1: That would be the moment.
Speaker 5: But even when they stopped, we'll probably keep doing it,
Speaker 5: like we we joke about it all the time.
Speaker 1: If we stopped.
Speaker 5: If you told us barstool just cease to exist tomorrow,
Speaker 5: part of my take cease to exist tomorrow, what would
Speaker 5: you do? And the honest answer is I'd probably call
Speaker 5: up p FD, Hank and Max and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: you guys want to come over and watch some football,
Speaker 5: and then we would just do the podcast just sitting there,
Speaker 5: Like when we flew here yesterday. We just did a
Speaker 5: full podcast.
Speaker 1: On the plane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just talking.
Speaker 2: You know, I can tell you from experience, it's not
Speaker 2: that bad when people make funny for forgetting stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do it too.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be.
Speaker 3: Goldfish.
Speaker 6: What do you think we should do with the will
Speaker 6: Compton Museum?
Speaker 2: I kind of like the rout he's going, He's just
Speaker 2: add more company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna have all the will Compton.
Speaker 2: It's such a it's such a weird.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: When he brought it up the first time, it is
Speaker 2: a very like It's like, yeah, I love that it
Speaker 2: got built in uh in the first place. But if
Speaker 2: he did away with it, it's like, no, it's forever,
Speaker 2: no matter what, we were never going to do away
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: But I do like all I.
Speaker 2: Told him, I was like, just protect that unless you
Speaker 2: give it back to me. But protect that that redskins.
Speaker 1: Yes, I got that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do think that in like ten years,
Speaker 5: if we have like fifty Will Comptons, just more or less,
Speaker 5: it's all, it'd be very funny. Yes, I mean just
Speaker 5: I who oh. And when Andrew Luck was here, I
Speaker 5: gave him a tour of the Will Compton Museum and
Speaker 5: I was like, and here's Will's jersey from Titans. Then
Speaker 5: here's other Will Compton at a TCU tailgate, and it's.
Speaker 1: Just like ridiculous, that's awesome. Yeah, what did you.
Speaker 3: Think about the museum? He liked it, he did.
Speaker 2: Did he remember me as a player?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Did you ever play against him?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Don't you remember?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know the Colts, Yeah, I think we
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen was this last year.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to think of twenty fifteen, we played the
Speaker 8: NFC PF T would probably I'm trying to remember if
Speaker 8: you if that team played the Cold.
Speaker 1: But he was injured a couple of the years for
Speaker 1: like full years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we and twenty fifty Yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: all the NFC East because I was an AFC sound.
Speaker 2: We did play at Indianapolis one time because that is
Speaker 2: where I got a spinal cord concussion. Oh that's running down,
Speaker 2: running down on kickoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, spinal cord. The spiders for concussion just sounds way
Speaker 3: worse than any concussion.
Speaker 2: It's like where the I don't even know the word,
Speaker 2: but they narrow, like in your spine, like the fluid
Speaker 2: lines that go down they kind of narrow, and they
Speaker 2: get an MRI to see if there's anything off with it.
Speaker 3: Came out clean.
Speaker 2: Your body just goes like like a metal pole just
Speaker 2: hits a you know, our bat just hits a pole.
Speaker 2: It just rattled.
Speaker 6: Did they give you that that injection that's like it
Speaker 6: makes you cold?
Speaker 1: You know they put you in a medical mountain.
Speaker 3: The little ice pick that goes up you talking about the.
Speaker 6: Die No, No, it like it like lowers your body temperature.
Speaker 1: Like tomorrow when he went through his thing.
Speaker 5: They like put him in a medically induced coma where
Speaker 5: his body temperature was like eighty eight.
Speaker 3: No ship, yeah, I heard.
Speaker 6: And they got the clone out.
Speaker 3: The biggest injury you as I've ever sustained.
Speaker 5: I tore up my ankle real bad, like ligaments, tendons.
Speaker 5: I still have terrible. I went actually to this place
Speaker 5: called stretch Lab where they just stretch you out sure
Speaker 5: and they do a test in front of a computer
Speaker 5: and it shows like your weaknesses. And I was pretty
Speaker 5: good overall, and then it was just two red circles
Speaker 5: around my ankles and.
Speaker 6: So I got I've broken probably like eight or nine ribs,
Speaker 6: I think, and one at one time. No, no, like
Speaker 6: over the course of my life.
Speaker 1: Herniated disk that was bad?
Speaker 3: Are no joke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't probably hernia that one I was.
Speaker 5: I was literally We actually did a They came over
Speaker 5: to my house because I couldn't get off the floor
Speaker 5: for three days. We did a podcast from my house.
Speaker 5: I was just sleeping on the floor. I just kept
Speaker 5: on telling my wife. I was like, just fucking shoot
Speaker 5: me play.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals one time and I did something to like
Speaker 3: my s I joint and we stayed in Arizona for
Speaker 3: the week before we went to San Francisco, and I
Speaker 3: I literally just brushing my teeth, Yeah, getting out of bed,
Speaker 3: any kind of movement. I was like, this is the
Speaker 3: worst thing ever. Yeah. The only thing that helped us
Speaker 3: like kind of walking. So I'd stand up all day
Speaker 3: walking a little, and then once I got to bed,
Speaker 3: I was like, I just I prayed to God I
Speaker 3: can walk when I get up in the morning.
Speaker 5: When I heard nim I just the last time I
Speaker 5: was playing basketball and I was like I felt it,
Speaker 5: Like I felt it like a real like knife in
Speaker 5: your back. I was like, no, I'm good. I kept playing,
Speaker 5: got it in an uber home, got out of the
Speaker 5: uber and literally could not move. I stood at like
Speaker 5: the lamp post for thirty minutes because I couldn't move.
Speaker 2: I was it was yeah back injury.
Speaker 5: The NFL ye like yeah, like, you guys just did
Speaker 5: that question to fucking make us look like yeah, I
Speaker 5: think as I said, I was like, yeah, these guys
Speaker 5: are easy. I'm talking about spinal concussion. That is like
Speaker 5: I went for a loose ball and pick up and.
Speaker 6: It was like I got internally decapitated. We had to
Speaker 6: put my head back on inside my neck. I've had
Speaker 6: four concussions, But how many do you guys, Yeah, well
Speaker 6: four diagnosed I've had, But how many would you guys say,
Speaker 6: you're at.
Speaker 3: I I honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The only time I ever got held out the rest
Speaker 2: of the game and we were already in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter and it was the last game of the season.
Speaker 2: I passed my baseline in the locker room and was
Speaker 2: ready to go back out there.
Speaker 3: But they're like, you know, basically.
Speaker 2: A minor concussion a mile of concussion. Yeah, but probably
Speaker 2: several I mean I had that. I had that instance
Speaker 2: where I'm like stiff internally for a minute several times.
Speaker 2: But every time, like I passed the test on the
Speaker 2: sideline and you're kind of just you're you're back with it,
Speaker 2: or so I think I am, and you're just like,
Speaker 2: you know, you get back. I don't know how many diagnosed.
Speaker 3: I've had, like three or four maybe diagnosed, like how
Speaker 3: to sit out those types of things. But there's always
Speaker 3: the you're in the middle of the game, you take
Speaker 3: a hard hit, you're kind of like, that was crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was wild.
Speaker 6: They wake up the next day and you know that
Speaker 6: something's not right, Yeah, that's the worst part.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how like the first I think we're
Speaker 3: talking about a couple of weeks ago. The first couple,
Speaker 3: like the first week of camp. I feel like it's
Speaker 3: just one long concussion because you have like your helmet
Speaker 3: on all week and you're like it even hurts to
Speaker 3: have the helmet on. Then you have headache the next
Speaker 3: day you're next door and so like, and then after
Speaker 3: a week you're like, Okay, this is my new normal,
Speaker 3: it's my new baseline. Yeah, And then I would always
Speaker 3: go through like as soon as the season ended, I'd
Speaker 3: have like three weeks of fog where I'd be like
Speaker 3: kind of like tired, lethargic. I'm like putting words together
Speaker 3: was more tough than usual, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like three weeks and I'd be like, Okay, I feel fine,
Speaker 3: it's all. It's all good now.
Speaker 6: Every time you can't remember something in the back of
Speaker 6: your head or you're like, oh fuck, that's a concussion.
Speaker 3: As I get older, it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 6: It's normal to forget stuff. It's you're psyching yourself out
Speaker 6: when you're like, oh.
Speaker 3: It's so interesting, like being a young football player compared
Speaker 3: to being an old like as you get older, because
Speaker 3: when you're young, like truly, if you died on the
Speaker 3: grid eye, if you like went and there, like they
Speaker 3: checked your pulson, like he's done with us like that,
Speaker 3: you literally think yourself like I I only praying today's
Speaker 3: that day for me. Yeah, And then as you get older,
Speaker 3: you have kids or whatever, and you're like holy shit,
Speaker 3: because they're like a what if something actually happened? Yeah,
Speaker 3: starts now that I'm done. I was talking to JP
Speaker 3: by this earlier today, like I feel like I have
Speaker 3: to constantly stay ahead of the sticks. Is a part
Speaker 3: of like nutrition and all that stuff, because it's like
Speaker 3: you're going to decay eventually. Just try to outlast it
Speaker 3: as long as possible. Yeah, scared, So I'm like super
Speaker 3: hyper sensitive.
Speaker 6: But one thing I noticed growing up because I played
Speaker 6: I played like different sports. I played a little bit
Speaker 6: of football, I played soccer, I played basketball, I played baseball.
Speaker 6: Every coach in every sport besides football knew that concussions
Speaker 6: were bad. I swear to God, this was not like
Speaker 6: people say, like knowing what we know now about concussions
Speaker 6: and that they're not good. It's like I remember being
Speaker 6: eight years old and somebody would get hit in the
Speaker 6: head and the coach would be like, no, we got
Speaker 6: to make sure you don't get concussed. You got to
Speaker 6: sit out for a little bit, like going through high
Speaker 6: school on the high school soccer team, you got a
Speaker 6: freshman year, somebody got a concussion. Coach is like, you're
Speaker 6: sitting out two weeks. We can't risk that. And then
Speaker 6: in football they'd be like, yeah, we don't know, like concussions.
Speaker 6: It could be a good thing, could be a bad thing,
Speaker 6: Like it was the only sport that did not like
Speaker 6: even wrestlers. Wrestlers wuld be like, yeah, you can cuss,
Speaker 6: you can't wrestle.
Speaker 5: And I just think you're like a pussy if you
Speaker 5: don't like yeah, truly old clips like I do a
Speaker 5: radio hit in Chicago with Wattle and Sylvie and Sylvie
Speaker 5: or sorry. Wattle played for the Bears and there's a
Speaker 5: clip of him it was John Madden, Uh broadcast a game.
Speaker 5: He got cost like five different times and John Madden's like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's got the cobwebs again. It's like this is insane.
Speaker 3: That video of like Kiko Alonso playing and then he
Speaker 3: like walks over the other sideline. Yeah, he's just so
Speaker 3: like not there. Guys like, oh, don't know what sideline
Speaker 3: he's on it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's like crawling off on his elbows. And
Speaker 6: then I was like, it looks to be a little
Speaker 6: shaken up.
Speaker 1: Yeaheah, get those cops.
Speaker 2: Wild Man was crazy.
Speaker 5: But I know you guys had a last question before
Speaker 5: I have a question for you will before we This is, Oh,
Speaker 5: you go for the last question.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask because you talked about the first time.
Speaker 2: I wanted to. I wanted to know if there's ever
Speaker 2: been like a friction between you guys. You talked about
Speaker 2: the first time you were negotiating. It was very hard
Speaker 2: to say no is every time you thought he was
Speaker 2: leaving or vice versas. The first was kind of weird
Speaker 2: having just entering into whatever, whether it's text conversation or
Speaker 2: in person.
Speaker 5: I don't I want to say it was weird the
Speaker 5: first time that he had to like talk to people.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like because we talked about it, like we
Speaker 5: had a very open conversation about it. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you have to do this, And it wasn't like tension.
Speaker 5: It was more just like bummed out, like this would suck. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it sucks, you know what I mean. Like, it wasn't like,
Speaker 5: oh fuck, he's gonna like I can't believe he's gonna
Speaker 5: do this. It's more like, I know how the business works.
Speaker 5: If someone offers him something crazy that he can't turn down,
Speaker 5: this is gonna bum me out real bad.
Speaker 1: So it's more having that like hover over your head. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And the first time I got dragged out, I think
Speaker 6: for like six months, the whole negotia. Yeah, and that
Speaker 6: that drags you down. And and it's like everything's developing
Speaker 6: on both sides, Like barstool was changing. It was like
Speaker 6: right before the pen deal, I think, And so things
Speaker 6: were changing on that end, things were changing with the
Speaker 6: companies that were offering me stuff on the other end.
Speaker 6: And it was just like I would I would make
Speaker 6: sure to tell big Cat like once a month, Hey,
Speaker 6: here's where we're at, just so you know, this sucks.
Speaker 6: And then finally when you make the decision, it's like, okay, that.
Speaker 2: How we were coming into the office, know, and then
Speaker 2: it's all up in the air.
Speaker 6: I don't think it was weird at all. I just
Speaker 6: didn't like when I was thinking about it too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 5: Will say the pen deal kind of sucked in the
Speaker 5: fact that I wasn't allowed to say anything to anyone,
Speaker 5: so it was just Dave, Eric and I. No one
Speaker 5: else knew because it's a publicly traded company, so it
Speaker 5: was like very.
Speaker 8: And you're in with barbol you say anything because the
Speaker 8: stock nothing literally nothing, Like we had to signed all
Speaker 8: this paperwork, so like I couldn't tell PFT until like
Speaker 8: the day before was announced, and that sucked.
Speaker 1: But it also was.
Speaker 5: Like I don't I in my head, I'm like, it
Speaker 5: is good for all of us. We're all gonna, you know,
Speaker 5: make some money off this. So it's like if I
Speaker 5: say something thing to someone and it sucks up this.
Speaker 1: Deal, I'll never I'll never be able to deal with, Right, So.
Speaker 5: That did suck that whole, like having to not tell
Speaker 5: literally a soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think the only the only people who knew.
Speaker 5: Were Dave Erica and then I told my wife that
Speaker 5: was it, Like there wasn't anyone else.
Speaker 1: So that that did suck.
Speaker 5: But it worked out, and then it didn't work out,
Speaker 5: and then it worked out again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys probably would have been hired if it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't for Penn probably would have been hired, would not
Speaker 3: have we signed right before the pen was done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sign well, big cat saying to this point, obviously
Speaker 2: do you take on investor money and everything else? They
Speaker 2: have the funds.
Speaker 1: When did you guys sign twenty.
Speaker 2: February February twenty twenty that we are like a few
Speaker 2: weeks later you guys.
Speaker 1: Well, we had it had been it works for like
Speaker 1: six months the Super Bowl. Yeah anyway, Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: Like Penn coming on to barstool, their big thing was
Speaker 5: like we have we're a billion dollar corporation. We're going
Speaker 5: to invest in the company. So, like your guys, deal
Speaker 5: probably is because Penn Box.
Speaker 2: Our first deal though was just pure split revenue.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just had.
Speaker 2: A conversation about MG and we were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we're just like, hey, we'll take a higher rev share
Speaker 2: because they was like, look, you guys already have a
Speaker 2: little something going on. We don't want your i P.
Speaker 2: That's also in all the Caller Daddy stuff was going down. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he said, you guys can keep your i P. We
Speaker 2: can talk about an MG and then splitting fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: So we decided to take like higher.
Speaker 5: It was all revenue split our yeah, but Penn was
Speaker 5: able to We were able to take chances on a
Speaker 5: lot of other stuff, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, is you ready for my question?
Speaker 2: I'm ready your last the last question, my last question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to know about pop punk, what
Speaker 3: the what the future holds for pop punk?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: We're smarting out.
Speaker 6: Kids, so uhair we got we got Frankie having a
Speaker 6: kid I think in what May, yeah, and then Roan
Speaker 6: having kids in May too, and it swinds yeah, which yeah,
Speaker 6: and so we found out how to say it, like
Speaker 6: right at the same time, we were doing a punk
Speaker 6: practice and then Frankie is up there and he's singing
Speaker 6: like that Creed song with arms Wide Open or My
Speaker 6: Sacrifice or something like that. And then he's like, and
Speaker 6: by the way, guys, I'm singing this song because I'm
Speaker 6: about to be a dad in May. And then Roan's like,
Speaker 6: oh shit, so you're the first trimester right now. And
Speaker 6: I was like there was some quick math from rowing
Speaker 6: over there, like how does he know what fucking trimester
Speaker 6: you're in right now? Like forty five minutes later, Roan
Speaker 6: gets on the mic. He's like, guys, I'm also.
Speaker 1: Going to be a dad and all, and we're having twins.
Speaker 6: Just completely Alpha and Frankie shot to no, we got it.
Speaker 6: We got a couple of songs that are in the
Speaker 6: tank that we've recorded sound pretty good. We're gonna shoot
Speaker 6: some music videos for him and then maybe play some
Speaker 6: festivals this summer.
Speaker 3: I love it. Second part question is if you guys
Speaker 3: are ever back in Nashville. I want to come back
Speaker 3: on stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that so much. Yeah, being able to sing
Speaker 3: that's my favorite genre of music. I love it. I'm
Speaker 3: all about it. I don't care if I sound good
Speaker 3: or not. I am all about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're in love it, yep.
Speaker 3: So Beer Olympics for sure. So it sounds like we're
Speaker 3: not even leaving bar Storre anymore.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: My last question for Will, because we're probably never gonna
Speaker 5: speak again, do you do you want one last time
Speaker 5: for p F T and I to explain to you
Speaker 5: why you go for two down fourteen with like five minutes?
Speaker 5: You want us to explain it to you because I
Speaker 5: like its from now when this decision or next season
Speaker 5: when the situation comes up.
Speaker 1: And you're like, what the fuck why are they doing this,
Speaker 1: We're not picking up the call. We're not gonna help you.
Speaker 2: You don't have to. I still just tweet it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're not gonna help you through this.
Speaker 2: You can explain it, but we've also talked about it,
Speaker 2: and you and pf T can explain those rules to me.
Speaker 2: Every coach that's come through has talked about that's not true.
Speaker 2: They can shove analytics up there ast.
Speaker 1: That it's not analytics, it's just math.
Speaker 2: I understand them.
Speaker 1: You don't understand.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no math for moment.
Speaker 6: Do you know that any you know anything? There will
Speaker 6: is doing the thing where you use You use the
Speaker 6: term analytics to describe a number that you don't like. Yes,
Speaker 6: but you use all the numbers that you do like,
Speaker 6: all the corrects, like if you will, let me ask
Speaker 6: you this. You're down by twenty one points, it's the
Speaker 6: third quarter. What's your percentage of run versus pass?
Speaker 1: Gonna be high pass? That's analytics.
Speaker 6: And here he goes to the fucking stat nerd over
Speaker 6: here doing analytics.
Speaker 1: On us and the crunching numbers. Nerd boy, Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I don't math.
Speaker 6: It's never won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Will get them.
Speaker 6: They don't even use numbers for the Super Bowls. It's
Speaker 6: it's math numbers.
Speaker 2: I understand it's math, bro, but it's like, Uh, if
Speaker 2: you don't get it, you're gonna have You're gonna that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're going to get it the.
Speaker 1: Next Statistically, if you trust those, it's.
Speaker 9: Fifty to fifty if you have a good play. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but and what about it? Just think of the negative,
Speaker 9: not the positive. Mike Vrabel, the guy you love, did
Speaker 9: this against the Dolphins and it won them the game.
Speaker 1: I know Taylor knows that was Yeahami two years ago were.
Speaker 3: This is what.
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell Lions a couple of years ago when they're
Speaker 2: instead of instead of kicking a field.
Speaker 1: Goal, something different, talking talking to another.
Speaker 2: That's another down.
Speaker 5: Fourteen with with with three possessions left the game five minutes,
Speaker 5: six minutes, you score a touchdown, you go for two.
Speaker 6: Why would you do that, because if you guess you.
Speaker 5: Win the game touchdown stopping the ball again, you don't
Speaker 5: do it three persessions. When people ask like, would you
Speaker 5: do it in the third quarter? No, it's a very
Speaker 5: specific set of circumstances where you're down fourteen and there's
Speaker 5: say five minutes left. You know, the only way you're
Speaker 5: gonna win this game is you got to score, stop
Speaker 5: and score. You can't let them score again. So you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to make up those fourteen go for two
Speaker 5: the first time. If you don't get it, you go
Speaker 5: for to the second time. Statistically speaking, most NFL offenses
Speaker 5: have two point plays that are over fifty percent, So
Speaker 5: you're having two chances over fifty percent chance you're gonna
Speaker 5: get one of them.
Speaker 1: But if you get the first one, you can win
Speaker 1: in regulation.
Speaker 6: And does it always work, No, it doesn't. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 6: it does get it right here, but it will work
Speaker 6: more often than do that.
Speaker 5: Going for two with how much time? Two forty left,
Speaker 5: they're down eight, so they just scored. It was twenty
Speaker 5: seven to thirteen, so they were down fourteen, they got
Speaker 5: the touchdown, they went for two, twenty seven to twenty one.
Speaker 5: Then they stopped, got a touchdown, kicked the extra point.
Speaker 1: One in regulation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't hate that all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go. The time we started to go back and forth, though,
Speaker 2: was not over a well, no Campbell specific, it was
Speaker 2: analytics overall field goal moment as.
Speaker 5: What and I truly believe in did Dan Campbell, Like,
Speaker 5: I think there's a shock factor when he goes for
Speaker 5: these when you're sitting on your couch, But if you
Speaker 5: talk to anyone on the lines, they're like, we know
Speaker 5: we're going for it, Like we know we're doing this.
Speaker 5: There's we're playing pedal to the medal. You can disagree
Speaker 5: with the pedal to the medal, but he's consistently that
Speaker 5: way all the time. He's not going off gut vine, right,
Speaker 5: He's not like, oh the team exactly. It's like we're
Speaker 5: gonna fucking go for it and we're gonna step on
Speaker 5: their throat, right, so and.
Speaker 2: They don't get it.
Speaker 1: You're like, look at the against the Lions.
Speaker 6: And look at the Commanders this year in general, if
Speaker 6: you want to talk about like the upside of doing it.
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn was as a great I think he was
Speaker 6: more aggressive. Yeah, and it worked and we got to
Speaker 6: the fucking NFC Championship game, like Washington did that the
Speaker 6: command because.
Speaker 3: Of the aggressive nature the Eagles was crazy.
Speaker 1: But the Commanders Lions game, Yeah, they're nine point dogs.
Speaker 1: They go forward on their first fourth down.
Speaker 5: They don't get it. Marcus Mariota, like they everything gets
Speaker 5: sucked up. Dan Quinn wasn't like, oh ship, you know,
Speaker 5: he didn't get it. No, he went and then they
Speaker 5: got the next three of them.
Speaker 6: You know what the Dans do really good. They put
Speaker 6: themselves in the mindset of an opposing teams fan, which
Speaker 6: more coaches should do. Correct Like if you're watching at
Speaker 6: home and you're a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles and
Speaker 6: that first drive, I know we got our asses kicked,
Speaker 6: but that first drive, marching down the field, we keep
Speaker 6: going for it on fourth down. Eagles fans are like,
Speaker 6: I wish they'd fucking kick a field goal. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: wish they punt, you know. And if you can convert
Speaker 6: on those like, think about how how defeated they are
Speaker 6: when we do the thing that they don't want us
Speaker 6: to do. That's how more coaches should should look at it,
Speaker 6: Like what is he afraid of? On the other side?
Speaker 6: Is he is he happy that I'm kicking the ball?
Speaker 6: If so, fucking go for it, well you're nuts out.
Speaker 3: This is football, to be honest with you, Like that
Speaker 3: made so much time. Yeah, the Commanders first drive, they
Speaker 3: go for it twice on fourth down. I just said this.
Speaker 3: In the third time, they end up kicking the.
Speaker 6: Field Yeah, yeah, you should have gone for it.
Speaker 3: The four.
Speaker 1: I think that was like and that's.
Speaker 6: It was still short. But that's where the math comes
Speaker 6: into it, where that field goal you have a higher
Speaker 6: percentage of making that than you would kicking like a
Speaker 6: fifty one numbers again, but yeah, I would have been
Speaker 6: fine with going for that, would have been Okay, numbers,
Speaker 6: don't be scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're your friend.
Speaker 3: I'll be scared.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's your favorite number?
Speaker 3: Seventy seven? Fifty one?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's pretty good. It's pretty good answer, simple, good answers.
Speaker 1: But I mean the Eagles, like.
Speaker 6: Like the middle of the field area fifty one.
Speaker 2: You think I have a brain to think like that.
Speaker 1: That's not that hard.
Speaker 3: She just brought it out of nowhere too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Eagles and are two of the most aggressive teams.
Speaker 5: The Eagles specifically, they're very aggressive.
Speaker 2: You look im, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Here's some deep math. Sounds like you want to I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to punt.
Speaker 3: I like the three taking the three over going for
Speaker 3: giving your fun hypothetical.
Speaker 1: He knows he knows the crystal a lot of these coaches,
Speaker 1: and you go for it in that hypothetic, have to
Speaker 1: go for.
Speaker 2: I know I'm looking. I'm looking for a d to
Speaker 2: where the math comes in and you're like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pump the ball. That's what Ultimately, I want
Speaker 2: to see my homes down for inside the ten a
Speaker 2: minute twenty left, two time outs.
Speaker 3: I just I want to see that only quarterback to
Speaker 3: go seven and Eagles should go.
Speaker 1: For like the Eagles should any chance they get in
Speaker 1: five their own forty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I know it's stupid, like if you, uh,
Speaker 5: if Eagles are let's say up seven, they go up
Speaker 5: seven with a touchdown. Like I'm not a fan of this,
Speaker 5: but when it comes to Patrick Mahomes, I would be
Speaker 5: go for two to make it two possession games, because like,
Speaker 5: if you keep it a one possion game with Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 5: he's gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna kill you.
Speaker 5: And I normally would say, go go kick that act
Speaker 5: go up eight so that they have to score and
Speaker 5: they get a two point conversion. But with Patrick Mahomes, specifically,
Speaker 5: if you have a chance to go up two scores, you.
Speaker 3: Have to do it. If he's got the ball in
Speaker 3: his hands, last the last position in the game of ball,
Speaker 3: his hands and it's a one score game.
Speaker 6: So but think about this. Now, a lot of these
Speaker 6: coaches that are going forward short, they're calling plays on
Speaker 6: second down knowing they don't have to get ten.
Speaker 1: That's what Campbell does. It opens up the play book.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, yeah, yeah, Now you don't have to get
Speaker 3: a certainly sifitting four yards per.
Speaker 5: Carry right when it's when it's still, when it's third
Speaker 5: and eight, you don't say we have to throw it
Speaker 5: to the sticks. You have to just throw it.
Speaker 3: You gotta calls.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it.
Speaker 6: Like we converted.
Speaker 3: So punting is going to die soon. The commander.
Speaker 2: I still disagree with her not going for a versus
Speaker 2: taking the three. What do you mean obviously he's not
Speaker 2: a guaranteed.
Speaker 5: Played to win the game in what situation he played
Speaker 5: win basically Detroit last year he was.
Speaker 1: But it worked.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't it worked.
Speaker 6: They didn't execute he did it. He dropped the play
Speaker 6: that he was wide open.
Speaker 1: Part of the process. You also, you also just assume
Speaker 1: every field goal is made.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't.
Speaker 1: You you don't use the numbers.
Speaker 5: When it comes to the field, Like I remember the
Speaker 5: Lion's kicker last year, it was like outdoors over forty
Speaker 5: five yards.
Speaker 1: He was like, fifty. You don't use those numbers.
Speaker 5: You're just like.
Speaker 1: Kickers, Brandon Aubrey, you do. It's all there, It's sixty years.
Speaker 3: He got fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 6: I think another big part of it with the commanders
Speaker 6: was we didn't really trust our defense.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's all.
Speaker 5: Also like you saying, you guys was sucked up at
Speaker 5: the end of the season. It's like we can't. We
Speaker 5: can't expose them that.
Speaker 3: Have been so great to see Hutchinson come back for
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: What a story that would We'll bring up this, uh
Speaker 2: this twist questions got it for?
Speaker 1: This is the last time Shirm is ever gonna pull
Speaker 1: up anything for this podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah you want to you guys, by the way, you
Speaker 5: guys can all write down numbers. We'll I'll tell you
Speaker 5: all is a package?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Done? Whatever it is by a dollar,
Speaker 1: no deal. Oh I like that.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna defend you. There's a lot of people
Speaker 6: that are like, well, Will Compton dumb jock.
Speaker 1: Dumb jock.
Speaker 6: Will was never good enough to be a jock. Okay,
Speaker 6: so just chill the fuck out your trolls. Back off,
Speaker 6: back off.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if there was a podcast even the
Speaker 2: bar still sports that you somewhat enjoyed working with, what
Speaker 2: would be your advice for them in the future as
Speaker 2: they pursue a new opportunity.
Speaker 1: This is very clearly about Brendan Walker.
Speaker 6: See if prepares to leave.
Speaker 1: I would first say you're making a terrible mistake.
Speaker 6: No kidding, Uh what would be I would I would
Speaker 6: wish them good luck and I would say, uh, maybe
Speaker 6: maybe start your own meme coin.
Speaker 1: Really bring the community to get smart smart, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel and it's always one step ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh real advice.
Speaker 5: I would say, the outside world gets very noisy and
Speaker 5: you just have to like you guys know, with the
Speaker 5: locker room, it's as long as the people inside the
Speaker 5: room are feel good about what they're doing making each
Speaker 5: other laugh. Everything else is just noise. It really is like,
Speaker 5: it's as long as we make each other laugh, and
Speaker 5: Max and Hank and Memes and all, well we all
Speaker 5: make each other laugh.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 5: People, people are gonna nitpick every little thing you do
Speaker 5: in this profession and it's just noise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6: Don't try to chase anything. Yeah, focus it cats right, focus.
Speaker 1: On like and you can't listen.
Speaker 5: When you listen to the noise, you you then change
Speaker 5: how you act, you know what I mean. Like, there
Speaker 5: is such a thing as too much feedback where it's
Speaker 5: like if one person says, oh I didn't like this
Speaker 5: or I didn't like that, then you change it. Like
Speaker 5: there's there's there are people I can guarantee you I've
Speaker 5: shut off most of the outside noise. But there I
Speaker 5: can guarantee you there are awls who don't like our
Speaker 5: fastest two minutes. Oh yeah, And imagine if we listen
Speaker 5: to them and not listen to the silent majority of
Speaker 5: people who love it and who like they're they're not
Speaker 5: saying anything because they love it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's the vocal minority that you can't let them dictate
Speaker 5: how you do your content.
Speaker 6: It's also something that we forget all the time that
Speaker 6: there are a lot of people that listen to the
Speaker 6: podcast that don't tweet at us, right, they don't have
Speaker 6: social media, that don't comment on YouTube, that don't the majority, yeah,
Speaker 6: the majority.
Speaker 1: So like you're not hearing feedback from them.
Speaker 6: You're hearing feedback from people that like, are very active
Speaker 6: and part of that, which is great. Like sometimes it's
Speaker 6: good feedback, but you can't don't don't change what you're
Speaker 6: trying to do because like, oh, there's five people that
Speaker 6: told us.
Speaker 5: This sucks, right, I love, I mean, I love the
Speaker 5: people who interact with the show on Twitter, Reddit or
Speaker 5: wherever they're they're doing the YouTube comments. But like, you
Speaker 5: have to remember that ninety nine point of the people
Speaker 5: are listening are not on those things and if you
Speaker 5: if so, if you listen to just those things, you're
Speaker 5: just gonna cater to the point one percent and then
Speaker 5: it's gonna change everything you do.
Speaker 3: Greatest podcast, don't listen to the noise.
Speaker 1: Just be your be yourself. Boys.
Speaker 6: You could also do like a caller daddy and just
Speaker 6: pivot to talking about trauma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get real deep.
Speaker 6: With Also, I'd love to hear that.
Speaker 5: I would say for you guys specifically, like just wait
Speaker 5: for us to do stuff and then just rip it off.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll be out there. I think we're going to
Speaker 2: three days a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what did he say?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 2: Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday.
Speaker 3: That's that's what we're just talking about. A couple of
Speaker 3: days ago we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I love that if their pod came out on Sundays,
Speaker 1: it would be so good.
Speaker 5: I thought this was I actually thought, you guys sitting
Speaker 5: down with us is gonna be just like an end
Speaker 5: of a five year bit where you're like, yeah, we
Speaker 5: we honestly like Dave hired us to top of you
Speaker 5: guys and just see if you were cool with it.
Speaker 1: It's like we passed. We were pretty cool with it.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what you guys do next.
Speaker 3: We can do it. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Man. We love you guys.
Speaker 2: That will never shake that when we shake, you decide
Speaker 2: by the by the loud minority. They said it loud minority. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you guys take it real serious. Loud minority. You
Speaker 2: guys don't mean ship.
Speaker 1: You don't like minorities. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: He put some on.
Speaker 1: He was like, you were emphasizing the wrong word.
Speaker 6: There you loud minority. Min You shut the fuck up minority.
Speaker 1: The the.
Speaker 5: Uh. I've told both of you this separately, but like
Speaker 5: you guys are going to kill it. And I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I'm proud of you guys one because it's a really
Speaker 5: hard business to be in. And I'm happy for you
Speaker 5: guys because it's a dream. Like you get to keep
Speaker 5: doing your dream and you get paid one hundred and
Speaker 5: forty million.
Speaker 3: Do appreciate that and that conversation still and the conversation
Speaker 3: that was awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you guys. We get a dollar.
Speaker 6: Ye. I hope, I hope that you guys are successful
Speaker 6: because I think that means if people come to Barstool,
Speaker 6: they get big, they go somewhere else in their success.
Speaker 6: That means that more people who are talented on the
Speaker 6: come up are gonna want to work for Barstool to
Speaker 6: that same opportunity.
Speaker 1: So I'm a big Rising Tide lifts.
Speaker 6: Also, it's guys. Also one piece of advice, if one
Speaker 6: of you could like accidentally go live on Instagram while
Speaker 6: you're boning somebody, that would be that would be awesome.
Speaker 5: The PFT is right though, the rising Tide thing, like
Speaker 5: the when you realize that, like this world is too
Speaker 5: tough anyway, and like the pie is big enough, like
Speaker 5: everyone get a slice of. Not everything's gonna be a competition.
Speaker 5: Not everyone's gonna be like, oh they did that, fuck
Speaker 5: them like that? So you'll kill yourself doing that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I never want to become an old bitter guy
Speaker 6: in the business, right that that hates it when people
Speaker 6: are successful, right right?
Speaker 2: We love you, guys, appreciate you. Yes, it's been a
Speaker 2: good little pot, godspeed, love it one hundred and forty million.
Speaker 5: Sure, I'm thinking corner office like that. Okay, talk about
Speaker 5: you guys, to talk ball would walk out of the room.
Speaker 3: I'd be upset. I'd I'd be sad. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you paid a.
Speaker 1: Lot, it's like, yeah, it's like you guys hypocritical, you
Speaker 1: can't take Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: A great opportunity.
Speaker 3: Opportunity man, I'm gonna have to see the higher I
Speaker 3: might if you're gonna leave, you go to PMT, have
Speaker 3: to send me your your stipend every single month, you're
Speaker 3: your bank statement.
Speaker 1: I might just give him a no show job. You
Speaker 1: didn't have to move this highte hire.
Speaker 2: He's just playing.
Speaker 3: Pubg all day, chasing chat in the same group chat.
Speaker 3: Just be like, hey, what are we going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, boys, Appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Kisses