1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Giants Extra Point is brought to you by Citizens, the 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: official bank of the Giants. Citizens is made ready for 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Giants Fans Hacking, Sack Murdy and health keep getting Better, 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Fearless Boilers the world's best bill Boilers and by Moody's 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity. Learn more at Moody's dot com. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to Giants extra Point, Everybody. John Schmelt joined by 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: John de Casias. Bob Papa remains in his seat, hanging 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: out with us for a little bit. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: I finally have a seat, I was stamming the all well. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Bob Papa takes his seat as the Giants fall to 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens thirty five to fourteen, and Bob, sometimes 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: expectations end up coming true. If you look at all 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: the analysis and everything else coming into the game, with 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: all the injuries for the Giants, especially, a lot of 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: people thought this could be a one sided affair. Today, 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Giants lose their starting quarterback at halftime, Tommy Divide goes 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: out with the concussion. Hang into the game, they were 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: down six starters on defense before the game started and 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the result was a thirty five to fourteen Ravens win, 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: where the Giants defense really had no answer for the 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: Ravens passing game. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Uh No, Lamar Jackson was twenty one of twenty five 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety yards. I think he might have 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: been sacked once and he fumbled one or sacked twice, 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: fumbled one in the red zone after the Giants allowed 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: a huge kick a huge kickoff return to start the game. 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Five touchdown passes made it look easy. Look, he made 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: some plays that there aren't a lot of quarterbacks in 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: the NFL that could make, like the one he threw 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: the flowers downfield where you know Thibodeau was barreling down 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: on him and still had the arm strength to get 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: it down there. But look, they're overmatched, and you know 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: the offensive line really can't get a run game going. 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: You know, you have a fourth and one and plus 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: territory fourth and one, and you know Tommy DeVito had 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: no chance. John Michael Schmids got completely he got pushed 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: back into divina where he actually knocked the Vito backwards, 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: and uh, kind of a something of the Giants season here. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: And just to give you a rundown after this game 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: started with two possessions by both teams, with neither one scoring. 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: After that, the Ravens scored touchdowns and five consecutive drives. 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: They touchdown drives of thirty three yards, seventy five yards, 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: eighty yards, eighty six yards, and ninety eight yards on 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: five straight guy drives to give him those thirty five points. 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Bob hit it. This team. The Giants 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: were undermanned and overmatched. You know this, this Baltimore team 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: is a very talented team. We knew that coming into 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: the game. You know, they can score points with the 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: best of them in the league. Defense was looking a 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: little shaky at times throughout the year, but they played 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: a pretty good game against the Giants with you know, 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: the Giants are in their fourth string quarterback now, Yeah Tim, 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: with Tim Boyle, and you know you got to tip 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: your hat to him for his limited experience. He actually 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: took shots downfield, he created some penalties, he got a touchdown. 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: You know thrown. 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's tough right now for this football 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: team with so many new guys playing, and you see 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: a lot of missing, you know, open guys in coverage, 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: which we really haven't seen this year. Just guys that 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: are wide open. But when you got your fourth string guy, 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: your practice squad guide. I just got signed to the 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: team a few weeks ago. You're gonna get situations to 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: happen like that, and Lamar Jackson is gonna find those 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 3: guys that's moving that all year that. 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Today's game breakdown brought to you by our local Ford 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: Stores One Engine drives his team. For current offers, visit 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: Byford now dot Com Forward official truck of the Giants 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Quick time Out. We'll come back with a Brian Dable 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: from the podium. That a whole lot more as we 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: continue on Giants Extra Point, Giants fall to the Ravens 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: thirty five to fourteen. 73 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants extra Point on the Bobbs Discount 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 75 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point. Giants fall to 76 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens thirty five to fourteen. John Shmult Jonathan can 77 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: see us. Bob Poppa, Brian Dabile beat the podium in 78 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: just a little bit. You know, guys, we sit here, 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: we can talk about this game. I'm trying to figure 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: out where to go. Mileage Davis had one of his 81 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: best games on our first touchdown since first four games 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: of the year. We'll talk about that and more, but 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: first by tables at the podium. 84 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: Why he came out So Boyle had to play that 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 6: second half there and played a good team and they 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 6: played well, we didn't play well enough. 87 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 7: Coach, you've you've been around football a lot of levels, 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 7: different levels. You've seen the good and the not so good. 89 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 7: What do you tell the young specifically the younger players 90 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 7: who are going through the type of results from getting 91 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 7: right now for them to stay into it? 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, be a pro control with two can control, go 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 6: out there, give effort, prepare, and you know, go out 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 6: there and play as good as you can play. You know, 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 6: when Tommy kind of got dinged up there said the penalty. No, 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 6: I don't know if it was if it was the 97 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 6: penalty or after that, it was just he came off. 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 6: Talked to him a little bit, and then right before 99 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 6: we were going to go out there at that two 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 6: minute drive, I went over to him and talked about 101 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 6: a particular play. You know, we had a couple of 102 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: timeouts and I just saw, you know, I kind of 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 6: saw his eyes, I said. I asked the trainer to 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 6: come over take a look at him. Then they took 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 6: a look at him, And so it was right after 106 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 6: that touchdown series that we drove down. 107 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 2: What was it about Lamar? 108 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 7: It's so difficult to defend Jordan? 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 6: I mean against any team he plays. He's dynamic players, 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: the reason why he is two time MVP. And yeah, 111 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 6: he's really good. 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 8: Even with your defensive company lactations. 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 9: You know, guy, you Thomas practice what the lasts there? 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 10: You know, the buss and the Whiteland coverage? 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: Would he not couldn't want. 116 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: To see that? Uh? Yeah? 117 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 8: I mean what what did you see? 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: So many easy complete? One of them guy ran a 119 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: good route and Lamar found him. 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: The other one was third and short, made a great, 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 6: unbelievable throw and toe tap catch. I mean, they played well, 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 6: give him credit. They're good football team. 123 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: We knew that. 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: He's he's a dynamic player. That number eight, he's dynamic. 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 7: On the quarterback sneak that you didn't get in the 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 7: first half. Yeah, you seem to be a little upset afterwards. 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: Was it a certain play called formation? 128 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 8: What? 129 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 11: No? 130 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 6: I just wanted to get the first down? 131 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 12: How well? 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 8: I mean it probably goes were got saying, But how 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 8: difficult is this to to, you know, get administered another 134 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 8: loss at home? 135 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 10: This only was one side and you know wasn't close. 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are are are are doing everything 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 6: they can do. So ran into a good football team 138 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: with a lot of good football players, and they played well, 139 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 6: and we didn't play well. 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: I describery Netalis displaying how he lost nine straight. Yeah, look, 141 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: all we can do is control. We control so that 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: they're down. You saind that they're they're still keeping their 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: head up, Like what do you what do you see 144 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: from there? They're competing. 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 13: I mean we gotta yeall. 146 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 6: Look, there's a lot of guys in and out. They're competing. 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 6: I appreciate the way they're competing. It's not getting the results. 148 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: All the best be the guys in practice this week. 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: Get ready to play a game. 150 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 14: What do you think the label league battled? I mean 151 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 14: you got knocked around, he came in, he came out. 152 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: Maybe that touchdown at the end, you know, yeah it 153 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 6: was blit zero. It's a good play by Boyle drifted back, 154 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: didn't have enough to protect it, but he saw it 155 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 6: and laid it up there and made a nice play. 156 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 6: He had two big plays that that helped us. We 157 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 6: had three actually one Slaton two to Milik and pass 158 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 6: interference polies. 159 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: You know productive you watch that any. 160 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 8: Young player, rookie like that battling down the stretch of 161 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 8: legue Pard season to see. 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 6: How he's watch every player national Football League, they're all professionals. 163 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 7: Would you go with Boyle? Is it do you have 164 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 7: to modify the plays because he hasn't been with the 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 7: team that long or does it limit how you call 166 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 7: the plays? 167 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 15: No? 168 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 9: He knows the place. 169 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: That's Davis. 170 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 16: When you when you've gone through the last four weeks 171 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 16: of what you've gone through at quarterback and then you 172 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 16: look on the other side and you see what Lamars doing. 173 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 14: Is there an appreciation for us. 174 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 17: Long as you've been in this league of how special 175 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 17: how a special player in that spot can make a difference. 176 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 177 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's a pretty important position and he's 178 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 6: one of the best in the league. And you saw 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: that out there today. Again, I said it all week. 180 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 6: He's it's fun player to watch evaluate. He's no moment 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 6: too big, makes a variety of throws, can escape, can 182 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 6: make plays go ten, eleven, twelve seconds. You know, he's 183 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: that dynamic football player and leader of that team. 184 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 14: What do you think we named? 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 6: You know, there's a plane flying above the stadium again, 186 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: Today's when I please fire everybody? Yeah, control, we can control. 187 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: Powerphrase does in fact all that's a sentiment front of 188 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: least fan based at once. 189 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, just control we can control. Get ready to play 190 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 6: game this week? 191 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: Do you think it's a distraction? 192 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: No, I didn't know about it till you told me 193 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 6: right now. So control we can control. Get ready to 194 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 6: go ahead and have a good week. And whoever's available, 195 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 6: get him ready to play with Drew. 196 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: What's your optimism level that he can actually get back 197 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: to sleep? Don't know too early. 198 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 18: It's it's his heel more than his his dobo at 199 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 18: this point. 200 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 16: Yeah, you guys have to get it going down to 201 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 16: see about bringing him the quarterback com Yeah. 202 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 6: Fresh, Let's let's see where we're at here tomorrow, go 203 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: through all the injuries like we normally do, and you know, 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: do what we need to do. 205 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: What do you think you have to do to prevent 206 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: change from happening? Yeah? Control we can control. 207 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 6: Get ready to play next week? 208 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: Anything out. 209 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: That's the coaches pres commerce brought to you by Hacking, 210 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: Sack Murdy and health. 211 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 14: Keep getting better. Time out. 212 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: We'll come back with more from downstairs. Audio after the game. 213 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Ravens defeat the Giants thirty five to fourteen. 214 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 215 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants extra Point on the Bobs Discount 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: Furniture w fa N Giants Radio Network. 217 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 14: Four to three. 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: It's the Ravens twenty three after sat for Boyle, another 219 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 2: free runner lob d one to the right into the end. 220 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 14: Zone, caught by neighbors. Touchdown Giants. 221 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Good contested catch there by elite neighbors for the touchdown. 222 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: That was today's play. The game brought to you by 223 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: our local Ford stores. One engine drives his team. For 224 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: current offers, visit by Ford now dot com. Ford Official 225 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: truck of the New York Giants. Despite that touchdown, the 226 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Ravens thirty five to fourteen. Welcome 227 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: back to Giants extra Point. John Schmelt, Jonathan can see us, 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Bob Poppa with you. And I think, guys that Brian 229 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Dable said it well there and I'll paraphrase his statement, 230 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: ran to a good football team today. They played well. 231 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: We did not play well, and that's how you get 232 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the thirty five to fourteen. 233 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens are a way better team than the Giants. 234 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: It was. 235 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean the Giants. The Giants were the largest home 236 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: underdog since nineteen sixty six, acording to the odds makers. 237 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: They were out man, they were outgun, They're out everything. 238 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna give you some positives. So yes, 239 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: they had guys competing and battling even though they were 240 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: out man and the score was lopsided. And there was 241 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: a play by Malik Neighbors in this game where the 242 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: Giants ball was skinning around midfield here going on that drive, 243 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: and they threw it was either a run or a 244 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: little swing pass in the flat, and Neighbors made a 245 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: heck of a nice block to get like an extra 246 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: seven or eight yards. So like, you know, right, there's 247 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: whatever there's left in the game. You're gonna lose the game. 248 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: But something like that mattered to me because it wasn't like, 249 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: all right, just feeding me the ball, feed me the ball. 250 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: They're clearly were feeding them the ball, but he was 251 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: also trying to help a teammate out and they wound 252 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: up getting seven or eight yards down at this point 253 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: it was thirty five to seven, And I'm like, all right, 254 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: you know what, that's a positive that I see here. 255 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of positives as far as hustle 256 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: and effort and all that other stuff. I thought McFadden 257 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: was very active again, and Muisal made some plays, and 258 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, I think they tried. They just did. They 259 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: weren't good enough. Yeah, under what metric were you gonna 260 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: win this game? You went into this game, your two 261 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: quarterbacks available for you were both undrafted free agents going 262 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: against LaMarsh. 263 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: And one guy that's been they got to play the 264 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: second half has been here for a month more or less, 265 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: and Jase I want to build on neighbors a little bit. 266 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: And again, if you're in uniform, you're out there, you 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: expect to play. But he's banged up. I mean you 268 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: can see it. He's had that hip thing the last 269 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: couple of months, the last couple of weeks especially, and 270 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: he got stepped on by his own teammate, Chris Maynards 271 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: in this game in the first half after a couple 272 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: of plays. I saw him limping slowly back to the huddle. 273 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: For him to still be doing things like blocking and 274 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: still going out there and doing all this while he's 275 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: banged up and legitimately injured, I think that does say 276 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: a lot. 277 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It's proven that he's actually a football player. Yeah, 278 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: not just a receiver, which you know, a loud receiver 279 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: that doesn't really not handle himself with the media. You know, 280 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: he's proven that he's a football player and then when 281 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: it gets tough that he can still go play football 282 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: and not just catch passes and get targets thrown to him, 283 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: but he's actually an all incompass football player. 284 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 14: Let me follow up with that. 285 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: If you're a defensive player on this team, if you're 286 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman on this team, and you see that, 287 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: does that tell you a little bit of something about 288 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: that guy where maybe you might have some preconceived notions. 289 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think still a little bit. You know, when 290 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: you're doing selfless things like that, like putting your body 291 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: in harm's way to create, you know, some space for 292 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: your teammates. Yeah, I would definitely say that. You know, 293 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: but the Giants can't just rely on eliite neighbors to 294 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: do that. You know, you need every single person on 295 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: this team to be selling out for their teammates, you know. 296 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 3: And I know it's hard because they're so undermanned, and 297 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: you know, the injury bug to hit this team so 298 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: hard and continuously does it it's hard to bounce back. 299 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 3: But there were some you know sparks, some you know 300 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: Dorri Jackson forcing the fumble. We talked about it before, 301 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, after every single game that the Giants don't 302 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: take the ball away, even though it was one, it 303 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: was a takeaway. He actually took the ball from Lamar 304 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: Jackson and they did just give it away. And the 305 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: Giants actually capitalize on a lot of opportunities that Baltimore played. 306 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: Baltimore played a sloppy game today. They had twelve penalties. 307 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: I think it was four penalties on the first touchdown 308 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: drive and the Giants got a touchdown out of it. Offensively, 309 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: they never really looked in rhythm the whole game, but 310 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: they were able to capitalize on the mistakes from the 311 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: Ravens and. 312 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 14: Also throwing something else on defense. 313 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I realized the Ravens finished with one hundred and seventy 314 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: rushing yards and that number is huge, but a lot 315 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: of that came on Lamar Jackson scrambles and such. Derrick 316 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Henry just fourteen carries sixty seven yards a lot of times. 317 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: Good job on him. 318 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: And this is the second straight week where they have 319 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of backup defensive Linemen doing that. So we'll 320 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: talk about that in a second, but first it's time 321 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: for Tim Boyle downstairs. Player pres commerce brought to you 322 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: by MetLife, the official insurance company of the New York 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Football Giants. 324 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 14: Tim Boyle making his way to the party. 325 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: Ever think downstairs now, time for Tim Boyle downstairs this year. 326 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Yes, sadly, Bob, sadly, I have that is correct. Tim 327 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Boyle should be getting going shortly downstairs. He had to 328 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: finish the second half here for the Giants, finish the 329 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: game twelve of twenty four, one hundred and twenty three 330 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: yards a touchdown in an interception, and that interception, the 331 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: Giants were plus one in the turnover ratio in this game. 332 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: They almost had their first game where they finished a 333 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: positive the turnover ratio, and that interception made it go even. 334 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: So the streaks up to fourteen, just two away from 335 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: the Browns record, by the way, and they're winless year. 336 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: But that was a point that Karl made right like listen, 337 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Dame Belt led the Giants with fourteen tackles, but on 338 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: that underthrown but you gotta get that interception. It's in 339 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: your hands. 340 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 14: And by the way, I think go ahead I'm sorry. 341 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: And though when your margin of error is slim and 342 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: you have those chances, you gotta make those plays. 343 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: And I think we felt the loss of Tyler Newban, 344 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Bob, in this game. The 345 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: one thing the Giants, I think I've done a good 346 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: job of not letting balls get over their head this 347 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: this year. 348 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 14: A lot of balls went over their head this this 349 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 14: game against the Ravens. 350 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a lot of deep balls, a lot 351 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: or you're not deep balls intermediate. They only had one 352 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: pass play of over thirty yards, but they had a 353 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: lot of twenty five yarders. 354 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of deep balls, almost deep in their territory, right, 355 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: so if it was over the top and there were 356 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: deep balls, but they just didn't get big games because 357 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: they were in you know, at the thirty yard line 358 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: or something like that. 359 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: And Lamar Jackson makes you play every play the grass 360 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: when you're defending the Ravens. You know, you got to 361 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: honor him in the run game. You gotta honor Derek 362 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: Hemry in the run game. And then he throws the 363 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: both tight ends though it's just you know, two of 364 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: his favorite targets, you know, Bateman. But then He also 365 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: can create outside the pocket. He can throw intermediate. He 366 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: likes to throw the de ball. He throws screen passes. 367 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: He literally makes you defend every blade of grass. 368 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: The media was in the locker room and they did 369 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: not know Tim Boyle was going to the podium. So 370 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna go talk to the media in the locker room. 371 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Now we'll take a time out. We'll get that audio feel. 372 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: But later on Pete Hoffmit is on it break. We'll 373 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: come back get more from the locker room, and a 374 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: whole lot more on Giants Extra Point. The Giants again 375 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: fall to the Ravens thirty five to fourteen. They fall 376 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: to two and twelve on the year. 377 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 378 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bubbs Discount 379 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 380 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 11: This is Devin Singletary and you're listening to the radio 381 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 11: home of Big Blue the Fan, Wfan and Wfan fl 382 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 11: New York. 383 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: Leary to the Laft Love the Meto and now he 384 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: goes to the right. Now they hand it off for 385 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: Singletary into the lock for the. 386 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 19: Goal line touchdown. Giants Power Running by Devin Singletary. It's 387 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 19: fourth rushing touchdown of the season, and with two point 388 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 19: fifteen to go on the half, the Giants are down 389 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 19: fourteen to six with the extra point pending, and. 390 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: That two yard touchdown run by Devin Singletary completed an 391 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: eighty yard drive for the Giants. 392 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 14: Thirteen plays, they had eight first downs. 393 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: They give them their first touchdown of the game and 394 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: cut the lead to fourteen to seven. 395 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 14: And that was the scoring drive of the game. Brought 396 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 14: to you by Citizens. 397 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven 398 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation to support 399 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: their work tackling important community issues, improving overall health and 400 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: empowering our youth. Back here on Giants extra point. Giants 401 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: fall to the Ravens thirty five to fourteen. And as 402 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: to that Singletary touchdown, bob and maybe just fourteen to seven, 403 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: and then the defense gave up that I think we 404 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: two minute Ravens got the ball, like eighty. 405 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: Yards one minute and forty three seconds, bait and with 406 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: a twenty yard touchdown catch. 407 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 14: Yeah, they got the ball with two fifteen on the clock. 408 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean that's you know, you needed your 409 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: defense to get a stop there you know, and then 410 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: you give yourself a little maybe momentum and you know, 411 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: at least get the ball to start the third quarter 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: with maybe we've got a chance to tie this thing up. Instead, 413 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: you're down twenty one to seven. But again, look, the 414 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: effort was there. They were outmanned on every single level. 415 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: You're talking about one of the best better teams in 416 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: the NFL, one of the teams that is favored to 417 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: potentially get not favored, but one of the teams that 418 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: you would give a likelihood to get to the super 419 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: Bowl coming out of a very difficult AFC. So and 420 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: then when you look at what the Giants are rolling 421 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: out there as far as all the injuries and everything else. Yeah, look, 422 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: it played hard. You know, you can't give up a 423 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: fifty three yard kickoff return and a twenty two yard 424 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: punt return and stuff like that. Eventually it's gonna come 425 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: back and bite, which it did. And uh, you know, 426 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: you can't play a game with two undrafted quarterbacks. 427 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Where we left off last second, we were talking about 428 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: the run defense and a nice job against Derek Henry 429 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: and again you got Mike McFadden, Darius moves Ount, no 430 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: Bobby Okaraka you got no DJ Davidson, no Nacho, no 431 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence. You got you know, guys like Alijia Garcia 432 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: going out there. Another good job by that defensive front 433 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: against the Ravens run attack. 434 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 3: I mean one hundred and seventy yards. You say good, 435 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: they're running. 436 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 14: Backs, Lamar Jackson running around. 437 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but still that's still a run game. 438 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 14: Okay. So a good job against Derreck Henry. 439 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a good job against Derek. 440 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 14: Let me realize that that's fair. 441 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: And Derek is a guy that you know. As the 442 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: second half is going and they have these leads, third quarter, 443 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, he definitely starts to break runs. I think 444 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: he had like a thirteen yard runner. Maybe had a 445 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: ten yard run later in the game, but that was 446 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: his biggest play thirteen yards Hill. 447 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Never did you think the Ravens were controlling this game 448 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: because of their run game. They controlled this game because 449 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: their pass game. 450 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: Well yeah, because of Lamar Jackson and the elite playmaker 451 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: that he is. Like the drive that you guys were 452 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: talking about, The big play happened was a twenty one 453 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: yard scrambled that he had took like twenty seconds and 454 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: then the Giants basically had to burn a time out 455 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: because the defense was tired. 456 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 14: I think that was I thought Brian Burns got blindside 457 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 14: blocked on that particularly. 458 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: Carl's been a point that should have been in today's NFL. 459 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: That should have been an illegal crackback block on Brian Burns. 460 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: He got shaken up. But think about Derrick Henry coming 461 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: into this game, had eleven carries this year of twenty 462 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: five plus yards, eleven of them, and his long run 463 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: today was thirteen. It's pretty good, you know, I mean 464 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: looks and they did a nice job against him. I mean, 465 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: we're just we're talking about the game that you know, 466 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: obviously there's a bigger issue here as far as the 467 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: team is concerned, of course, because you can't run away 468 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: from the fact that when the Giants were relatively healthy, 469 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: they were two and eight, right, you know, so no question. Yes, 470 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: now they're playing with the walking wounded and they're literally 471 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: signing guys off the practice squad to the active roster. 472 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: They're not elevations, are actually signing these guys as the 473 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: injuries continue to mount. You know, you don't run away 474 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: from the fact that, hey, they were this was a 475 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: team that was expected to be you know, maybe an 476 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: eight or nine win team that was you know, two 477 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: and eight to start the season. So look, what are 478 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: you gonna What are you gonna do here? I mean, 479 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: you just keep grinding. And like I said, you know 480 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: the NFL, the eye in the sky doesn't lie. And 481 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: you know, to tie it into Christmas, Santa's making a 482 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: list and he's checking it twice and he's gonna find 483 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: out whose reps are naughty or nice because these things 484 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: do count well. 485 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: And I think one guy that like that, huh, Santa 486 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: will be happy watching his reps if he's watching him 487 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: overnight tonight would be Milik. Neighbors finished the game with 488 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: ten catches on fourteen targets for eighty two yards, including 489 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown catch long of twenty three. 490 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 14: He spoke to the media after the game. Here is 491 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 14: Neighbors finally, thank you catch one without pass interference. 492 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 11: Tell us about that touchdown. 493 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean it was a good time. 494 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean, good day to get. 495 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 10: Back in the bucks. How hard is it when they 496 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 10: were interfering with you on the other ones? And does 497 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 10: that still feel like a big playing when. 498 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 12: I mean, anytime you can get another first down, specially 499 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 12: down the field, replace the offense in a great position. 500 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 12: You know, you wanna make the catches. But if you 501 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 12: can get the pis and we can we get another 502 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 12: downar distance, it's. 503 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: Always good. 504 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 10: Positives. 505 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Take it in your game. 506 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 10: So you say, again, what positives if you're taking your game, I. 507 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 12: Mean just trying to find different ways to ue routes. 508 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 12: I mean I've been doing a good job trying to 509 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 12: get open, brought my best getting open, But like I said, 510 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 12: this is my ability to get. 511 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 10: Open like this, Can you tell us how Friday came about? 512 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 10: Everybody in the world to tell the video you and 513 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 10: she door playing catch on the street, how. 514 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 20: Did that come about? 515 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 516 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 14: I wanna talk about just the game now. 517 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 12: I wanna keep my focus on just up to you 518 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 12: step out. Yeah, and it was just fooling wrong, pushing 519 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 12: itself and I wound up being behind somebody. 520 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, like could you could you can. 521 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: Lead the nationals? Where can your likes? 522 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Just gonna make stuff you used. 523 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 10: To be just to spend life too? Because we're based 524 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 10: on problem with you is hopeful. 525 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 12: I mean, you know I always expected, but you know, 526 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 12: you never know who's gonna be expected in your future. 527 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 12: But you know, tryna turn it wrong, you know, We're 528 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 12: hoping do our best every time. I mean losses and 529 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 12: wins happen. I mean this, I'm I'm not really used 530 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 12: to winning. I mean I l I went in LSU 531 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 12: with Jade. I mean before then, I was a part 532 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 12: of some losing teams. But you know, just keep on fighting, 533 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 12: you know, even though it's a lot of loss. You know, 534 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 12: you still gotta go out there and try your best 535 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 12: to get to win. 536 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 9: I'm trying to do that. 537 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 14: Tryna show my. 538 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 12: Grid, tryna show my dolmantites to go out there and 539 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 12: keep playing right at mean being hurt or not, you taking. 540 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 10: Sometimes years of not winning things before those Jade and yours. 541 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 12: Try to put great pieces together to to win. I mean, 542 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 12: you gotta have all the right pieces together to wanna 543 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 12: have a winning program. I mean, you know, we just 544 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 12: tryna find those pieces. 545 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: To help us, you know, win. 546 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 12: That's really is It's a smart Uh I'm not sure yet. Uh, 547 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 12: I'm sure you know upstill's gonna do a great job. 548 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 12: Tryna find you know, the the missing pieces to that. 549 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: So i'm'a lead him. 550 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: To the a. 551 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 12: That's you feel playing with the team, you know, for 552 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 12: him to come out here, you know, he been with 553 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 12: the team what for three weeks, four weeks, and it 554 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 12: looked like he knew the offense at that's uh first 555 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 12: year in part, like I mean, you know, I pick 556 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 12: up the offense pretty slow. But you know, for him 557 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 12: to go out there toss the bottle, give us stances 558 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 12: on footballs, you know, try to go out there and 559 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 12: do the best of his ability to you know, try 560 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 12: to get another win. You know, I think he played 561 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 12: a you know, a great game to say, you know, 562 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 12: just ever came about. 563 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: You just had to go in there and play. 564 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: After the interception, he walked off. 565 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 8: What what do you remember thinking at that moment, your 566 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 8: emotions at that moment after they intercepted it was a 567 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 8: little over two minutes ago. 568 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: On the pick, Yeah, I mean it's just a it's 569 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: a pick. 570 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 12: Most my head is running back all on the sideline, 571 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 12: change the direction the offense, going back on the field. 572 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 9: How much work had you got and how much work 573 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 9: and how much catches throwing nothing. 574 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 12: This is the first time where we've been out there, Dylla. 575 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 12: You know, he was just going to least done some 576 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 12: pretty bread. 577 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: So at least there was another fan. 578 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 11: It's like playing before. 579 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 10: Urging mister Mack can fire everybody. What do you think 580 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 10: of the fact that this keeps happening before these games? 581 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: But you know, I ain't see it. 582 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 12: I ain't see the plane. 583 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 14: That's my league neighbors downstairs. 584 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: Listen. I know, I know that they're trying to ask 585 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: these questions about the plane. But like you, these guys 586 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: know what the routine is. The plane flew, most of 587 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: the guys are in the locker room or they're in 588 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: shorts and a T shirt on the field. They're not 589 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: seeing it, and they're not talking about it like they're 590 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: trying to focus in on the game. Feels like it's 591 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: like wasted questions. At some point, guys aren't gonna comment 592 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: on the plane like they weren't about their jobs. 593 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 14: And Malague Neighbors has done an excellent job after a 594 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 14: slow comeback from when he had that concussion. After that week. 595 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: In that Week four game against Dallas, he hadn't had 596 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: a game where he had more than seventy one receiving 597 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: yards in his first six games, but his last two 598 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: ten catches for seventy nine last week, including a twenty 599 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: three yard or almost sixteen yards per catch, broke Some 600 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: tackles showed some explosion today ten catches eighty two yards 601 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: a touchdown, that twenty three yard catch for the touchdown, 602 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: to two defensive passing, then his penalties as well. We're 603 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: seeing more the explosives explosives at him, which I mean 604 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: he's averaging eight yards to catch, no I understand, but 605 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: he but he also drew two DEFENSI pass and if 606 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: heart penalty for thirty yards each. 607 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: Correct. What I'm saying is, you know, because of the 608 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: line play and the quarterbacks and everything else, it's kind 609 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: of hard to get him the ball to make explosive plays, 610 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 611 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: He says that we've had more of the last two 612 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: weeks than we had in the six games. Part of 613 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: that that, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 614 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: It is what it is. I mean, there's too many 615 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: free runners on the quarterback. I mean, there was there 616 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: was one time where DeVito, like the DeVito and Boyle 617 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: each had one time in this game where they took 618 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: the snap. If you listen back to my play by play, 619 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: he takes then snap drops back sacked like or someone's 620 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: like right in their face like the leak neighbors. Jerry 621 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: Rice couldn't make an explosive play when those situations arise. 622 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 2: And that's why this is the ultimate team game, right. 623 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: It takes eleven guys on every single snap for a 624 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: play to work or to be defended. 625 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: And Jason you reacted when he was asking the press conference, 626 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: how many passes if you go from to Boyle before today, zero? 627 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: Well, I say, is a lot to Tim Boyle. 628 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 6: He came in. 629 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: Look, he wasn't great today, but he wasn't. He didn't 630 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: look like he plays scared. You know, a lot of 631 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: guys come in, you know, a lots riding on this game. 632 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: And in terms of you know, you playing in your 633 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: future in the NFL, you know, being a four string quarterback, 634 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: you got to put something on tape. He looked like 635 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: he didn't care about none of that, and he threw 636 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: the ball downfield. He really he had some clean pockets 637 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: he attacked downfield, and they weren't always the best passes, 638 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: best ball placement, but they got something out of it. 639 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: They got a touchdown out of it. A couple of 640 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: deep passes got Belager involved in the play, and look, 641 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: it didn't look pretty, but that is the folk that 642 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: is the NFL. When you take those type of shots, 643 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: good things happened, you know, and it wasn't a great outcome, 644 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: of of course, because you look at the score. But 645 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: he was able to score a couple points and he 646 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: was able to push the ball downfield because of the 647 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: thought process that he had, and he didn't play scared. 648 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: I feel like in this game, compared to say, the 649 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Bucks game, right, I feel like in this game, the 650 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: Giants kind of went down swinging a little bit. I agree, Right, 651 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: don't you feel like, Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna throw 652 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: it into a couple of team meetings, We're gonna, we're 653 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: gonna try to make some plays. We're gonna, we're gonna try. 654 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: Like they just weren't good enough. But it feels like, 655 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: I think if you were a fan and you were 656 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: sitting here watching it and you're just kind of looking 657 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: at it, and you're looking at it objectively, kind of 658 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: what is what it is, who's playing against whom? But 659 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: I felt like in the first half, if you were 660 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: watching that game, like the Giants were hanging in there, 661 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: they were kind of they were hanging in there, hanging 662 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: in there. And then that that last drive near the 663 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: end of the half, you know, and they get the touchdown, 664 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: and you know the busted coverages, you know the communication. Look, 665 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Giants have given up now this season, seventeen pass plays 666 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: of over thirty yards, to give up a lot of those. 667 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: And you know of the runs that they've allowed this year, 668 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: they've allowed now eighteen runs of over twenty yards. Six 669 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: of them have been by quarterbacks. So they've been hurt 670 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: by that a lot. But hey, look what you know, 671 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: it's they tried. And then again, I look at the 672 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: guys fighting out there and trying, and that's all you 673 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: could really ask for. 674 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 14: You're hanging out for one more segment. 675 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hanging out for four more segment. 676 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 14: For all your office, industrial and residential movie needs. 677 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Trust Clancy Relocation and Logistics, the official moving and relocation 678 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: partner of the New York Giants. 679 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 14: Visit Clancy Moving dot com. Quick time out. 680 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: We'll come back with more sound from downstairs, that and 681 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: everything else as we wrap up the Giants thirty five 682 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: at the fourteen loss to the Ravens. 683 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 14: Will be right back. 684 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 5: You were listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bubs 685 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 686 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr. 687 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 16: And you're listening into the radio home of Big Blue 688 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 16: the Fan, w f A n and w f A 689 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 16: N FM, New York. 690 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Back here on Giants Extra point, Giants Fall to the 691 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Ravens thirty five to fourteen. Giants Football is brought to 692 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: you by Verizon, the official five G network of the 693 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: New York Giants, Verizon America's most reliable networks. Well, you 694 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: can see us Papa Tim Boyle downstairs with the media 695 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: after the game. 696 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 9: He runs a tight show. We got a really good group. 697 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 9: I love Tommy, I love and Drew. We're really close. 698 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 9: We stick together and we support each other. So Drew 699 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 9: is lovely today. You know, obviously it was you know, 700 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 9: my fourth week being here and first time like really 701 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 9: operating the offense, and Drew is being awesome on the sideline, 702 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 9: and Tommy's been awesome as well. So I'm grateful for 703 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 9: those two. 704 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 10: Had you taken a single non scout team REPP in practice, I. 705 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: Have not yet. 706 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 9: I have not, so you saw today with my first 707 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 9: first time playing with those guys, So definitely cool learning experience. 708 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 9: But you know, fielding speed and ole lined, I think 709 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 9: they really did a good job today. 710 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 11: The line did a good job. 711 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 9: The Ravens presented a lot of tough looks, especially on 712 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 9: third down. I think our guys at I handle it 713 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 9: really well, So kudos. Who are guys are from? 714 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 11: Leave? 715 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 8: Sure the wristband is helpful, but reasonably. How much of 716 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: the play group did you have a grand stop? 717 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I knew all of it. We have a we 718 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 9: have a couple of code words here and there that 719 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 9: are still kind of I'm still working through, but I'd 720 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 9: say ninety nine percent of the offense. It's pretty much 721 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 9: down for me, and I kind of want to. I 722 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 9: want to learn everything as fast as possible. It's not 723 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 9: really one of those things I want to baby myself through. 724 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 9: I want to be able to present myself in a 725 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 9: game and look at Dab's and say, hey, call whatever 726 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 9: you want, I'll go. I'll go run it and run 727 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 9: it well. So to answer your question, I'm pretty much 728 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 9: caught up on the offense over the past couple of 729 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 9: weeks and feel pretty comfortable as a. 730 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 8: Quarterback when you throw a deep all to neighbors and 731 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 8: he makes the adjudgment and makes the play for the touchdown. 732 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 14: How does it make you feel? 733 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, it makes it makes my job a lot easier. Yeah, 734 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 9: he's one of those special players. You kind of just 735 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 9: got to throw it up to him and let him 736 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 9: do his thing. But you know, you always know where 737 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 9: number one is on the field. You know, he's in 738 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 9: the back of your mind as a quarterback. If stuff's 739 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 9: kind of hitting the hitting the fence a little bit, 740 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 9: we got to you got to throw it up to 741 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 9: number one. So I'm glad he made to catch uh 742 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 9: through a couple of balls to him today that we're 743 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 9: kind of got away from me a little bit, that 744 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 9: he made wonderful adjustments on and just goes to show 745 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 9: how a special the player he is. We've got to 746 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 9: continue to get in the ball he do. He's continue 747 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 9: whereas I guess what if you see from him during 748 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 9: the week on tract and start of things. 749 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 10: You think that he's a witch player. 750 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the way he approaches his work. I mean, 751 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 9: he's he's detailed. You know, the whole rookie aspect of 752 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 9: his year is kind of behind him. You know, I've 753 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 9: only been here for four weeks, but just the way 754 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 9: he's carried himself, he's, uh, he's already a great pro. 755 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 9: But you know, he knows his role on this team 756 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 9: and he knows he's got to he's got to play 757 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 9: well on Sundays because we need him on this offense. 758 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 9: You know, he's uh, he's one of those standout players 759 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 9: that again you know, I know where number one is, 760 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 9: Drew knows where number one is. Tom, he knows where 761 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 9: number one is. Uh, And if things kind of kind 762 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 9: of running around a little bit, or I know where 763 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 9: number one is over there, and you kind of put 764 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 9: his physical uh skills to the to the test and 765 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 9: and see what happens. And most of the time he's 766 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 9: gonna come down with it. So he's a special player. 767 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 9: I'm glad I was able to connect him a few 768 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 9: times today and again he made me look good on 769 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 9: that touchdown pass because it wasn't a it wasn't a 770 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 9: great ball, it was covers here, had a couple of 771 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 9: guys in my face, but he made an incredible adjustment 772 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 9: and got his feet down and put said it on 773 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 9: the board, which was nice. 774 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 10: I know, just how do you see like high in 775 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 10: history of bosses, I guess weighing on a rookie like. 776 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 9: That, especially as the poor Yeah, it's it's frustrating for anyone, 777 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 9: especially someone who's come from a great program. Like he's 778 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 9: come from and expects to win. 779 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 8: Uh. 780 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 9: I understand the frustration, and uh, we all feel it too. 781 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 9: And that's the that's the part where you know you 782 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 9: have to kind of almost embrace the suck together and 783 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 9: and fight and claw every day to get out of it. 784 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 9: He's a competitor. If if we had, you know, two 785 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 9: wins and he was happy and jolly all the time, 786 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 9: I'd have a little bit more of an issue with it. 787 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 9: But you know, he's a competitor. 788 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: He wants to win. 789 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 9: So if he wants the ball, I don't blame him. 790 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 9: He's a game changer and we got to find ways 791 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 9: to get him the ball. I think Dave's did a 792 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 9: really good job of scheming up trying to get him, 793 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 9: you know, in that first progression and some some concepts. 794 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 9: But yeah, Malik's a special player. We're glad to have 795 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 9: him here at the Giants. 796 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 10: He's a mine and you knows, no one play away. 797 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 10: But just before halftime he said, you got into Oh 798 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 10: my god. 799 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 14: Uh. 800 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 9: It's kind of one of those weird things. As a backup, 801 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 9: you kind of have to go into the game knowing 802 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 9: you're gonna play. Uh, and if you don't play it's 803 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 9: one of those, alright, he came out clean. But you know, 804 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 9: I've been around long enough now, kind of back in 805 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 9: my Green Green Bay days where I'd go into a 806 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 9: game and it kind of, you know, like jumped on me. 807 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 9: But I wasn't really ready for the moment. But as 808 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 9: I kind of progressed as a backup in this league, 809 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 9: you kind of have to just be ready to play. 810 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 9: So I prepared all week knowing that there was a 811 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 9: chance for me to go play in this game, and 812 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 9: I had to go play well. And so the moment 813 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 9: when it came, you know, there was no heart pounding, 814 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 9: there was no dry mouth. I just kind of went 815 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 9: out there and played ball and and got in the huddle. 816 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 11: It was really good to play football again. 817 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 9: It's been it's been kind of a weird year for me, 818 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 9: been on three teams over the past I don't know, 819 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 9: five six months. So just getting back in a huddle 820 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 9: and playing playing ball, throwing a touchdown pass, it was 821 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 9: it was all very nice for it to come full circle. 822 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 10: You know, if it be really corrective, taking shots says something. 823 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: The defense was showing. 824 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 9: You that when you took I think you want to know, 825 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 9: I think I think Dave's called a great game. But 826 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 9: I think what the defense gave me I kind of took, 827 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 9: you know, I think uh uh the last one there 828 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 9: was kind of just like a chuck it up and 829 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 9: see if number one come down with it. I wish 830 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 9: I could take it back and do something else with 831 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 9: the ball. But late in the game like that, I 832 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 9: threw it up. But uh, I took all the defense 833 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 9: gave us. And uh, there were a couple opportunities for 834 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 9: me to put the ball up in the air, and uh, 835 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 9: you know, you gotta we gotta continue to come down 836 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 9: with those. I threw a couple of balls that got 837 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 9: away from me a little bit today that moving forward, 838 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 9: I can tie it up and get better from But you. 839 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 8: Also have some of your old place with some back 840 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 8: shoal as, ability to receive or a flag could come out. 841 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: And all that you've got. 842 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's so that's our standards quarterback. You know, we 843 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 9: expect to go, you know, one hundred percent accuracy and 844 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 9: chuck about the ball exactly where you want. So when 845 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 9: you don't do it, you remember those a little bit 846 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 9: more than the good ones, you. 847 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 7: Know, Tim, Tim, you talked about the three teams that 848 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 7: you've played on this last eighteen months or so, so 849 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 7: when like, how do you go about preparing for like 850 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 7: different playbooks, different schemes and everything. And I don't know 851 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 7: if you Green Bay is where it started to click 852 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 7: for you and how. 853 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 9: To prepare what I've learned it it's just football at 854 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 9: the end of the day, you know, it's it's all 855 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 9: it's all the same stuff. It's different terminology, but conceptually 856 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 9: it's a lot of the same stuff. So me learning 857 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 9: this offense really is just understanding names of things and 858 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 9: how we get lined up and what we call this route. 859 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 9: But I've I've been around most of these concepts before 860 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 9: in my past, so the actual spacing and the feeling 861 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 9: of it from a defensive standpoint and a scheme standpoint, 862 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 9: I don't feel like it's too big for me. It's 863 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 9: really just learning terminology so I can I can read 864 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 9: a risk band or hear the call from Dave's and 865 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 9: have it click in my mind and visualize it. 866 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 14: In my mind. 867 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 9: But yeah, it's always a challenge, you know you kind 868 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 9: of I have a pretty good routine now of kind 869 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 9: of what's my priority to learn in a new offense. 870 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 9: But grateful that our assistant quarterback coach Christian Jones has 871 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 9: been incredible helping me out, staying late with me going 872 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 9: through walkthrough is just making sure I'm dialed in on 873 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 9: the details. 874 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: You know. 875 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: Tim Bowle has been at this a while, Bob, He's 876 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: been on We've seen a lot of Thanksgiving a couple 877 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: of times and the Lions go down the lit a 878 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: bunch of mats obviously. Yeah, I mean, he he's done 879 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: this a lot, and he's ready to step in. And 880 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: he talked about how he's kind of you know, learned 881 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: about and not nervous anymore. And he knows, you know, 882 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: even when you're not as familiar with the offenses, maybe 883 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: you are if you've been with the team the whole year, 884 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: he knows how to step into a spot like this 885 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: and do the best. 886 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 2: Again, Yeah, I mean, he's a smart than most guys 887 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: that play smart quarterback tend to be pretty smart. And 888 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, when you when you're in as many systems 889 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 2: and you have to digest all this stuff and you're 890 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: bouncing from team to team, Uh, you better be a 891 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: quick study. And you know, credit to him, you know, 892 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 2: for staying prepared and being ready to go. And you know, again, 893 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 2: trying out there, tried. You know, he he didn't look 894 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: like a deer in headlights. I give him that. I 895 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: felt like he had a decent command and good for him. 896 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: And uh, you know it's through a touchdown past the 897 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: neighbors who had that in their bingo card at the 898 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: beginning of the year, that boil. What have a touchdown 899 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: past the neighbors and away we go. 900 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: He sounded like an experienced veteran talking to the me. 901 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: That's what he is, you know, like a future coach. 902 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: But I do like what he said about the team 903 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: embracing the suck or embracing the struggle that they're in 904 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: right now, because they do. You know, you can't get 905 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 3: around it. You know, you still got some games to go. 906 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: You know, you have to play those games, you know. 907 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: And as much as these fans probably wanted to say, 908 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: all right, we're done with this, but you can't be. 909 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: You got to play some football. You gotta be good 910 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: football being played to at least finish this year off, 911 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: you know. And the Giants got what one more home 912 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: game against the Colts in a couple of weeks. You know, 913 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: hopefully they get a chance to you know, get one 914 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: win because they're what, oh in eight at home now, 915 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: so they got to figure it out, you know, embrace it. 916 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: Brace the feeling that they have. You know it's a 917 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: sucky feeling, but like try not to get that feeling anymore. 918 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard. You know, they're under manned 919 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 3: and they keep losing bodies every single week, fourth quarterback. 920 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: You know, your stars and your your leaders are out. 921 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 3: You know, they're hurt, they're injured, or they're gone. But 922 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: there's opportunities for these young guys to make some make 923 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: a name for themselves. I think Tim Boyle had a 924 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: good step in that direction today. There's other guys out 925 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 3: there that played that you know, have either not played 926 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 3: or have very limited playing time. Uh, and they have 927 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 3: to play football because this still is the NFL final thoughts. 928 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: Yet the game the guys are getting paid. I mean, 929 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: it's their job, like just I mean just because they 930 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 2: play football and we all played football at one point 931 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: and it looks like fun, it's their profession. Like, so 932 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: just think about your job, like, go, you got to 933 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: go to do your job, whether it's going well or 934 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 2: it's not going well. You're expected to go give your 935 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: best ability and do your job, and uh, you know, 936 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 2: kudos all these guys for you know, giving it, giving 937 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: it the effort. Today they were just outgunned. I mean 938 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: they were outgunned against. Remember this is a team that 939 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: they're playing today that was the number one seed in 940 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: the AFC last year and they have the m v 941 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: P on their roster and he's a two times like 942 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: it today and they added you know, an MVP like 943 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: running back. But you know, the thing that jumps out 944 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: at you when you look at the Ravens and this 945 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: goes back to, you know, Ozzie Newsom, and when you 946 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: kind of look forward here with the Giants moving forward, 947 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: is it's all about the draft. Man, It's all about 948 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 2: the draft, right because four of their five starting offensive 949 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: linemen are all draft picks, two first rounders, a second rounder, 950 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 2: a fourth rounder. The two tight ends their draft picks, 951 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: the wide receivers their draft picks. You know, there's a quarterback. 952 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: And then you look on the defensive side of the ball. 953 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: The guys who had the biggest impact on this game 954 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 2: thing all draft picks, and some of the key backups 955 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: draft picks. And that's really that's the key thing. Ozzie Newsom, 956 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: who's a Hall of Famer kind of laid the template. 957 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: Eric Dacosta's kind of kept it moving in that right direction. 958 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: And you know there's no quick fixes out of two 959 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: and twelve, right, it's not just wave of magic, wand 960 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: and one player. It's not basketball. Well, there's only five 961 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 2: guys on the court, and you get lucky enough to 962 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: get Michael Jordan changes the arc of your franchise. It 963 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. 964 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 14: Bob will talk to you next week in Atlanta. 965 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it. I hope everybody has a 966 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: safe drive home, and yeah, we'll get a chance, an 967 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: opportunity next week to do it again. 968 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 14: Giants Football is brought to you by your local Ford Stores. 969 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 14: One engine drives this team. 970 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: For current offers, visit by four now dot com Ford 971 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: Official Truck of the Giants. Welcome back to a look 972 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: at some of the numbers after this, as the Giants 973 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: fall to the Ravens thirty five to fourteen, we'll be 974 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: right back. 975 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 5: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs 976 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 5: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 977 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 6: This is Brian Dabill, head football coach in New York 978 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 6: Giants and you're listening to radio home of Big Blue 979 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 6: The Fan, WFAN and w FANFM, New York. 980 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra point. Giants fall to 981 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: the Ravens thirty five to fourteen. It's time to look 982 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: at today's stats. They're brought to you by the Archdiocese 983 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: of New York. Learn more at Cardinals Appeal dot Org. 984 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: Giants were outgained in this game four hundred and forty 985 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: five yards to two hundred and thirty six six more 986 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: first downs for the Ravens. They had twenty five Giants 987 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: nineteen Ravens nine of eleven on third downs in this game. 988 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: Why the Giants defense cannot get off the field. Giants 989 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: were two of twelve on third downs over the course 990 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: of this game. So those are a couple of big numbers. 991 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: I always like to look at the big plays for 992 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 1: each game, always a factor. The Ravens in this game 993 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: had six plays of twenty or more yards, three plays 994 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: of twenty five or more yards, Giants with just two 995 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: plays of twenty five or more yards. So another game 996 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: where the opponent won the battle of the big plays. 997 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 1: In this contest, the turner battle was even. The Giants 998 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: finished with one takeaway. The Ravens finished with one takeaway 999 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: at the very end of the game to keep that 1000 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: even for the contest. Now fourteen straight games for the Giants. 1001 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: As you were that winning the turnover battle. For the Ravens, 1002 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: they had three sacks in this game. You would Harrison 1003 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: with the sack, Kalva Noi with a sack, and David 1004 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: Ajabo with the sack for the Giants. 1005 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 14: Daan Belton, Mike McFadden and Brian Burns each with the sacks. 1006 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: So each team had three Ravens seven quarterback hits this game, 1007 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: the Giants with four individually. For the New York Football 1008 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Giants in the first half time of the veto ten 1009 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: to thirteen sixty eight yards, no touchdowns, no picks. Tim 1010 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: Boyle in half number two twelve of twenty four one 1011 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three yards, one touchdown, one interception on 1012 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: the ground, Giants really couldn't get anything going Tyrone Tracy 1013 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 1: ten rushes thirty one yards, eight rushes twenty five yards 1014 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: for Devin Singletary. In this game, the league Neighbors fourteen 1015 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: target ten catches eighty two yards won. The Robinson four 1016 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: catches on nine targets or thirty eight yards. Neighbors by 1017 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: the way with a touchdown on his stat line. Daniel 1018 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Bellinger three catches thirty five yards, Devin Singletary three catches 1019 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: sixteen yards, Darius Slinton and Tyrone Tracy, each with a catch. 1020 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 14: For the Baltimore ravens Lamar Jackson. 1021 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean you don't get a much better stat line 1022 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: than this, folks twenty one to twenty five, two hundred 1023 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: and ninety yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, long of forty 1024 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: nine one hundred and fifty four point six quarterback rating 1025 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: a dominant performance out of him, also with six carries 1026 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: for sixty five yards on the ground, Derek Henry fourteen 1027 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: rushes sixty seven yards, Alie coming in in the fourth quarter, 1028 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Rashauna Lee eight rushes thirty two yards, and Justice so 1029 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: To Carrie seven yards. He also had five catches for 1030 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: sixty one yards, including a twenty seven yard touchdown reception. 1031 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: Ze Flower six catches fifty three yards, Rashaw Bateman three 1032 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: for eighty including a forty nine yard touchdown reception, Mark 1033 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: Andrews Quiet just two catches twenty four yards, two catches, 1034 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely Nelson, Agalore, Devonte tes Walker and Wallace each 1035 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: with a catch each in this game. 1036 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 14: So that was it, folks. 1037 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: The Giants fall to the Baltimore Ravens in this contest 1038 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: thirty five to fourteen. Well, if you're with us on 1039 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: our local flagstip station, WFAN, make sure you stick with us. 1040 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 14: We still have a lot more coming your way. 1041 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: But if you're listening to us on one of our 1042 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: many affiliates across the country on the Giants Radio Network, 1043 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna bid you into. Our next broadcast will be 1044 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: next Sunday when the Giants traveled to Atlanta to take 1045 00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 1: on the Falcons. 1046 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 14: Day by the way, play on Monday Football this week. 1047 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: That game will be at one o'clock with pregame show 1048 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: on our network beginning at noon for Carl Banks, for 1049 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Paul Datino, for John p. 1050 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 14: Casius, for Bob Papa and how we cross. I am 1051 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 14: John Schmouck. 1052 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on the w f AN 1053 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: Giants Radio Network presented by Bob's Discount Front. But we're 1054 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: not done right here on WFN in New York, John 1055 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: de Casius and Paul Datino will join me and we'll 1056 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight eight eight, eight oh eight 1057 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: one zero one nine. More from the locker room as well, 1058 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: that and a whole lot more. Stay tuned right here 1059 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: on the fan in New York. 1060 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: Will be right back. 1061 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 3: This is Keevon Thibodeau and you're listening to the radio 1062 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: home of Big Blue the Fan, w f A N 1063 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 3: and w f A N FM, New York. 1064 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 2: Second and nine with the Giant twine, Jackson balls out, 1065 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: signals Hilda was right likely in motion, left Jackson back 1066 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: into the end zone. Patement's there, caught it, got both 1067 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: feet down for a touchdown. 1068 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: So that was Forshan Bateman's second touchdown catch of the day, 1069 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: that one from twenty yards away with thirty two seconds 1070 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: to go in the second quarter. They gave the Ravens 1071 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: a twenty one to seven lead going in to halftime. 1072 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: If the Giants would have gotten to stop on that drive, 1073 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: they would have gotten the ball to start the second 1074 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: half and fourteen to seven, had a chance to tie. 1075 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: But that gave the Ravens a twenty one to seven lead. 1076 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: It was a nine play, eighty yard way too easy 1077 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: drive in a minute of forty three seconds for the score, 1078 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 1: and that's why that was our turning point of the game. 1079 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: Listen to Boomer and go on our flagship Station Wfan 1080 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 1: tomorrow in the nine am hour for the Giants Turning 1081 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: Point contest. The first Gret caller to name the game's 1082 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: turning point will win two tickets to an upcoming Giants 1083 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: home game. Back here on Giants Extra Point, right here 1084 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: on the fan in New York City. We'll take your 1085 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: calls at eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero 1086 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: one nine eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero 1087 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: one to nine. Tracking the excellent slate of four o'clock 1088 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: games as well. Tim Patrick just scored a touchdown for 1089 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: the Lions, getting them on the board. The Bills lead 1090 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: in that game is cut to fourteen to seven. Eagles 1091 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: and Steelers were tied at three, but it looks like 1092 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: AJ Brown just caught a very short touchdown catch and 1093 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: that will give the Eagles a ten to three lead 1094 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: in that game. The Colts lead the Broncos ten to nothing. 1095 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: That would keep the Colts alive for a potential playoff spot. 1096 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: And speaking of the Colts, guys, and we're joined by 1097 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: Paul de Teeno Johnathan to see us we will know 1098 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: at some point tomorrow when the Giants will be playing. 1099 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: In two weeks, they could be playing the Indianapolis Colts 1100 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: on Saturday at one o'clock, or it could be a 1101 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock game that weekend, so something they 1102 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. If the Colts do win this game, 1103 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: that'll keep them in the playoff hunt, which would make 1104 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: that game a little bit more attractive, which would probably 1105 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: mean better chance at Saturday. But that game has been 1106 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: a to be determined throughout the entire year, so we'll 1107 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: have to wait and see until tomorrow when the Giant's 1108 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna play that game. 1109 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,479 Speaker 14: Welcome back, Paul, Yeah, Hi, John. 1110 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 8: You know, the interesting part about history is if that 1111 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 8: game has moved to Saturday, December twenty eighth, that is 1112 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 8: the date if the greatest game ever played back in 1113 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 8: nineteen fifty eight, when the Giants lost to Baltimore the 1114 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 8: then Baltimore Colts at Yankee Stadium in the first ever 1115 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 8: sudden death overtime game. 1116 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 14: In NFL history. 1117 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 1: There'll be sixty six years then December the twenty eighth, 1118 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight. So yes, the date would be significant, 1119 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: and it would be kind of nice. That'd be a 1120 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: nostalgic storyline to go with it. 1121 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 8: But you know, John, as you know a lot of 1122 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 8: times the league is going to move a game that's 1123 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 8: got some standing significance to Saturday, So they're gonna have. 1124 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: To weigh because that is a virtual national game. There's 1125 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: no other games going on. Exact the whole country gets it. 1126 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: So we'll have to wait and to see what they 1127 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: do with that. So it was a locker room, like Paul, 1128 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: you just came from downstairs. 1129 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the locker room was resigned to the 1130 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 8: fact that they know they just didn't have enough bullets. 1131 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 8: They knew that they were just totally outmanned in this game. 1132 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 8: I talked to a number of fellas, including Mike H. 1133 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 8: McFadden and Brian Burns and Devin Singletary, a bunch of 1134 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 8: the veterans. You know, they know they're given there, all 1135 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 8: out there, But I think they also knew that it's, 1136 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 8: you know, it's like Jack going against the Green Giant. 1137 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 8: They just did not have enough muscle, enough weapons enough 1138 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 8: to combat a very good Baltimore Ravens team which obviously 1139 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 8: was extremely ticked off about losing before the bye of 1140 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 8: Philadelphia and wants to get back onto that championship contender road. 1141 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 14: And they proved it today. 1142 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 8: This is a team that looks like they want to 1143 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 8: contend for the AFC title and the Giants knew, Jase, how. 1144 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: Many games in your career have you gotten out of 1145 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: you lose thirty five to fourteen or by three four scores. 1146 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 14: And just sit there and like, you know what, these 1147 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 14: guys are just better than us. There was not much 1148 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 14: we could have done today. 1149 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 3: A couple of times it has happened, and definitely Baltimore, 1150 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 3: Baltimore or is like that for sure today. But it's 1151 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 3: happened not too many times in my career, but it's 1152 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 3: definitely happened a couple of times. And that's a that's 1153 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 3: a real hard feeling when you're in the locker room, 1154 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 3: Like man, no matter who we have in the feel today, 1155 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 3: we couldn't beat those guys. That's kind of the thing 1156 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 3: that happened today. This is a well oiled machine in 1157 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens with I think the greatest playmaker in football, 1158 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. 1159 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: He's out greatest playmaker. I think that's a I think 1160 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: him or Josh Allen. Josh Allen does some crazy. 1161 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 8: Stuff too, but him and him and Lamar Holmes might 1162 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 8: want to put his name into that situation. 1163 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 3: He's the best he's the best performer in the playoffs. 1164 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: That for sure, he's the best quarterback. The other guys 1165 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: do more with their legs. So I think that's why 1166 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: that kind of lean war. 1167 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 14: That's an interesting. 1168 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: Maker comment that that, Jac And just to your point, 1169 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: the Giants have three of their starters on offense on 1170 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: the injured reserve list. 1171 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 14: They're out for the year. Theo Johnson, John Running, Andrew Thomas. 1172 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: On on defense, it's Dexter, Lawrence Nacho, Bobby Ocarake, Tyler Nuban, 1173 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: Deontay Banks, Cordo Flott, Drew Phillips their top three corners. 1174 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that the Ravens are to do 1175 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: what they did today. I want to go to Brian 1176 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,919 Speaker 1: Burns downstairs or do you have something before one get. 1177 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 14: The comment off of your remark. 1178 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 8: At one point in the third quarter, I looked down 1179 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 8: at the Giants defensive set. They had the only starters 1180 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 8: from the beginning of the season that was still on 1181 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 8: the field. 1182 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 14: Thibodeau, Burns, McFadden, Pinnock. That's it. 1183 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 8: At one point they had four starters down still on 1184 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 8: the field. 1185 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I listed seven of their normal starters there. 1186 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 14: So it makes that stuff for be left. 1187 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to one of those four remaining starters, 1188 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: Brian Urs, who was very active that it was in 1189 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: the backfield a few times, was harassing Lamar Jackson. 1190 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 14: He addressed the media after the game. 1191 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: I have one where Lamar reverse field just kind of 1192 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 2: got laid. I just have to see that guy coming. 1193 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 3: Then I'll focus on the mark. 1194 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 11: You know, as he was trying to even get get outside, 1195 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 11: he comes as upon inside of me. 1196 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 3: That's probab the biggest kind of league. 1197 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 2: I mean even did anything specific hurt or just. 1198 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 11: Like nah, I feel like if you wanted to, you 1199 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 11: probably go to hit me harder than I wasn't looking 1200 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 11: for it on the high. 1201 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 20: Still Felty, so, well, did Jeff your ankle like retaped 1202 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 20: or something or again? 1203 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, man ruled up pretty good. 1204 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: But getting that crazy. 1205 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 10: Straight straight history, No, it really wasn't. 1206 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 3: Wasn't too much talking about this year. Probably get a 1207 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:25,959 Speaker 3: better feel. 1208 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 10: How do you what's your readout? 1209 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: You know what? 1210 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 11: You have a specious flaers. 1211 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 3: No, I don't read be good. I don't read like 1212 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 3: it too. 1213 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 11: I think that not everybody's processing to stuff. 1214 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 7: What do you see when you pass so you're you 1215 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 7: were sitting here sort of scanning ground watching other guys. 1216 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 2: You what do you see when you when you look 1217 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: around the side. 1218 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 13: I want. 1219 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 20: Compar you, meaning. 1220 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 10: Probably there was another point I saw, but basically a fan. 1221 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: Of set for mister just free game like when people 1222 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 2: don't warn. 1223 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, level three, that's why I'm kind of filling it. No, 1224 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 10: it was after maybe you guys come off the field, 1225 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 10: so you may haven't seen it after you come off 1226 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 10: the fielder for the once, so there's like a brief 1227 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 10: Potato two one was anyways like eleven one up. It 1228 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 10: was like eleven twenty, so you may know the scene. 1229 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 3: So what it said was. 1230 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, so I just want to let 1231 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 1: you know. 1232 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 10: It said reaction. Yeah, it said fire, mister marrack, fire everyone. 1233 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 10: What's your reaction? 1234 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 3: That same reaction? 1235 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: I alation, which is snow common? 1236 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 12: You get sit doing me? 1237 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 10: Sorry for the uh huh, sorry for the common? Would 1238 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 10: it wanted one? 1239 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: No? 1240 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 3: No, you're good, you're good. 1241 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 20: Just I got big things focused on when you want, 1242 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 20: mister mark, So yeah, tough with six of the defensive, 1243 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 20: we got a very young defensive battlefields, a bunch of 1244 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 20: guys who haven't played, you know, a lot of openings, 1245 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 20: a lot of scene like he's thrunts. 1246 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 9: For the. 1247 00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 3: It's tough, I used. 1248 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 16: They got a lot of guys banged up, a lot 1249 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 16: of guys that to step. 1250 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 11: Up, you know. But at the end of the day, 1251 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 11: y'all look on the brightest side of things, the opportunity 1252 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 11: to show what they can do. You know, it's gonna 1253 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 11: be growing pains with the guys that haven't you know, 1254 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 11: had a lot of experience. But uh, lamar's one't the 1255 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 11: best you play that you play a clean game, you 1256 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 11: know they execute it? 1257 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 8: Well? 1258 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 7: Uh why who really cares that. 1259 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 2: We ain't got you know, you know what I'm saying. 1260 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 7: So yeah, and then what it is ran you knew 1261 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 7: have learned a lot about the new teammates when you 1262 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 7: win and when you don't have the results, what are 1263 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 7: you learning right now? As the team goes in sub versity? 1264 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 7: Oh that's my thing? 1265 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 3: Is I you remember who's gonna fight? 1266 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 18: You know? 1267 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 11: And for the most part, I feel like our guys 1268 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 11: still play with a lot of efforts. You know that 1269 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 11: it may be some detailed things that and some some 1270 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 11: game playing scheme things that they clean up, but for 1271 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 11: the most part, I ain't seven quitting, no. 1272 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: Loty, So how do you avoid it feeling hopeless? Like 1273 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 2: when you're in the mists event right, like I know, going. 1274 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 5: To different game and you got your pride and you 1275 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 5: think you care you're gonna be able to. 1276 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 2: Get the job double as you're going through it. 1277 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 3: Hopefully that's a bad way. 1278 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how do you avoid that? Like what 1279 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 2: do you what do you do during again to make 1280 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: sure that that doesn't. 1281 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 3: I can speak for myself. I don't feel anything's about 1282 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 3: the ship. 1283 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 16: Like at the end of the day, I got a 1284 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 16: job to do, you know, and my main goal is 1285 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 16: not to let I don't want to be the guy 1286 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,959 Speaker 16: to let anybody else down, you know, if I gotta 1287 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 16: take that personal like if I am, if I'm a 1288 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 16: guy that they messed up. 1289 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 11: So that's my main thing is just to you know, 1290 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 11: leave by example and sit at the end of the day, 1291 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 11: whether we're thirteen and oh or oh and thirteen, you know, 1292 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 11: you still got a job. 1293 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: Still the stings to pick it up trying to mess. 1294 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 3: Who was Davion's message. 1295 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 11: Years after this, I came in Lady Game because my 1296 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 11: antle something. 1297 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 2: I ain't hear it. 1298 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 14: Anything else you want to say thanks. 1299 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: All As Brian Burns after the game, jac your thoughts, Well, look, 1300 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: he's a pro man. 1301 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 3: You know, he didn't come from a winning program in Carolina, 1302 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 3: but I feel like he has that winning attitude. He 1303 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 3: embraced it, you know, and I agree with that. He's 1304 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, deploy that here in this locker room, 1305 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 3: you know. And it's real hard right now with you know, 1306 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 3: coming in and at home in this locker room, they 1307 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 3: haven't felt winning together as a team yet. You know, 1308 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 3: they don't even know what that feels like. Brian Burns 1309 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 3: doesn't know what it feels like to win in this building, 1310 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, but he still has that right mentality. He's like, 1311 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 3: it don't matter if we're three, you know, thirteen and 1312 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 3: we're going thirteen. We still got to do a job. 1313 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: And that's true, you know. And it's it's hard, bro 1314 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 3: right now. Like it's it's hard. Everybody's looking at themselves 1315 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 3: in the mirrors, like what could I do to not 1316 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: only help this game, this team win a game, but 1317 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 3: also what do I do so I can be on 1318 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 3: this team or be in the league, Because that's where 1319 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 3: it's at right now, you know, when when your team 1320 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 3: is struggling, especially late in the season like this. You 1321 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 3: know the team turnover rate is you know, in the 1322 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 3: NFL it's high, like everybody's turned over, but when you're losing, 1323 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 3: it gets exponentially higher. You know, So no matter if 1324 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: you had a good year, no matter if you have 1325 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 3: extra years in your contract. You know, everybody's out there, 1326 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 3: especially these young guys. They're fighting for their jobs in 1327 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 3: their careers right now. 1328 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 8: One of the reasons that you can really appreciate an 1329 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 8: attitude like Burns's and I know JC you're very sensitive 1330 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 8: to it because you played the linebacker position in this league. 1331 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 8: You talk about how much a guy like him has 1332 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 8: been hurting, beaten up and beaten down. The Giants now 1333 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 8: have gone six straight home games without having the lead 1334 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 8: in a game goes on the way. 1335 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,959 Speaker 14: Back to the Dallas games. 1336 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 8: That is such a hard thing to keep getting up 1337 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 8: off of the mat. I mean, that can take the 1338 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 8: juice out of anybody. And you hear he's dejected, but 1339 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 8: he's not lying down. You talk about this is the 1340 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 8: fourth straight home game they trailed at the end of 1341 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 8: the first quarter, seventh to nothing. It's a constant uphill 1342 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 8: climbing Mount Everest each and every time they step on 1343 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 8: the field. Man, at some point in time, you just 1344 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 8: gotta salute a guy like this who refuses to run 1345 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 8: out of gas and. 1346 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 3: With less and less twos in their bag to climb 1347 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,919 Speaker 3: that hill. You know, with more and more guys going 1348 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 3: down every single week. As this season progresses and they 1349 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 3: do have a steep hill to climb, you know, they 1350 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 3: got to figure out how to win. You know, I 1351 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 3: don't know if they if that's in that that's in 1352 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 3: the their like vision right now, they're trying to figure 1353 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 3: out how to put good practices together to put a 1354 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 3: good product on the field, because they just really haven't 1355 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 3: done that quite yet this year. 1356 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Giants TV, presented by Bob's Just Kind of Furniture, is 1357 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: the official connected TV app in the New York Giants, 1358 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: available for free now on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire Tv, 1359 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and inside the Giants Mobile Appstream game highlights, interviews, TV shows, 1360 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: and more solutionive video content with Giants TV. All right, 1361 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: let's go to the phones eight eight eight eight one 1362 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: zero one nine. Let's lead it off with Harvey and 1363 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Dix Hills. Harvey, what's going on? 1364 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 13: Holidays? Everybody you too hard. 1365 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 14: What's up? 1366 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 13: Pretty good? Just a few quick things, uh, you know, 1367 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 13: Bob prop Uh. Let's start with the fact that the 1368 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 13: Let's start with the offensive line, Bob poppas said, Boldemore's 1369 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 13: line was all draft choices. Okay, the Giants had tried 1370 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 13: ten years to form an offensive effective offensive line. Last 1371 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 13: draft they drafted no offensive lineman. Before that, they had 1372 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 13: the draft with Neil and Azudo and I think mckeacham 1373 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 13: or you can make a case the rollbus. What is 1374 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 13: the problem with the Giants forming an offensive line? Is 1375 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 13: it a disconnect between the offensive line and from college 1376 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 13: and the Giants? Or is the fact that the that 1377 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 13: the scouting is bad. That's number one? Number two and 1378 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 13: these excuses about making for the making for the Giants 1379 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 13: is that you know, they're outmanned and outplayed. The bottom 1380 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 13: line is that this is a team effort. That whatever 1381 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 13: happened to the concept of next man up? You know, 1382 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 13: that's that's where depth comes in. And somehow the Giants 1383 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 13: don't have depth. They don't have enough effective offensive line, 1384 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 13: and there's no quarterbacks. I can sunction on it and 1385 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 13: in effect of your. 1386 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,439 Speaker 1: Thoughts, well, I want I want to I want jac 1387 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: to touch the next man up thing too, because there's 1388 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: a reason, And thank you for the call, Harvey. 1389 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 14: There's a reason some dudes in this leaguer starters and 1390 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 14: some guys in this back. 1391 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask Harvey what did he expect today? Like, 1392 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,919 Speaker 3: what did you expect to happen today? On the whole world? 1393 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 14: Expect Baltimore to win? 1394 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: Handedly? 1395 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like I don't understand, like what you thought 1396 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 3: was going to happen today? You know if you you 1397 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 3: were he Harvey's I heard him, you know, called before, 1398 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I've spoken him before. He's a Giants fan. As a 1399 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 3: Giants fan, you understand what's going on with the with 1400 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 3: the team. You know, the injuries that the Giants had. 1401 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 3: We're not making excuses here. We'll just talking about what's 1402 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 3: going on on the field and what we see. What 1403 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 3: did you expect to happen today? You know, the Giants 1404 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 3: did a great job I think early on in the 1405 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 3: game and making a competitive effort. Baltimore can score on 1406 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 3: anyone if I'm not mistaken. They beat the Bills this 1407 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 3: year like thirty one to ten or thirty five up 1408 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 3: to ten, something like that. Like they can they can 1409 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 3: beat any team. In the NFL. That's that team Lamar 1410 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 3: Jackson when he plays like that, and you know, it 1411 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 3: was a little resistance. But you got young guys out 1412 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 3: there who I'm sitting there looking to find who their 1413 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 3: name is because I've never seen them before. 1414 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: But by the way, I'm gonna throw this out there too. 1415 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: In terms of the offensive line, I did not think 1416 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: that was the major problem today. The Ravens got some pressure. 1417 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: They only had three sacks in this game. Was it 1418 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: four quarterback hits? Yes, it was either's not terrible. One 1419 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: team at four one had seven, which I forget, which 1420 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry even so. But again, so that's four quarterback 1421 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: hits in addition to the three sacks. That's not that 1422 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: terrible of a number. No PFF right now, and again 1423 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: this will get updated as they review the game. Again, 1424 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: has them just for a twenty percent pressure rate? Gihnny 1425 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: dropped back to pass a lot today. There were not 1426 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: a ton of sacks. Yeah, was there some pressure in 1427 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Tommy Divido's face, and especially when they got into the 1428 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: red zone on that drive in the first half. 1429 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 14: Sure, But this to me wasn't a deal where. 1430 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this Giants offensive line didn't give the 1431 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks any chance to succeed. 1432 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 14: That's not what this game felt like to me watching. 1433 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 8: I think, Carvey, if you're still listening to us, I 1434 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 8: think the one thing that I really think you need 1435 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 8: to keep in mind, and that is Carmen Brisillo is 1436 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 8: in his first year as the offensive line coach with 1437 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 8: the Giants. He is highly respected from what John and 1438 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 8: I have certainly been here every day, from what we 1439 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 8: could tell from watching practice, he has definitely had an 1440 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 8: impact on this line and raised the level of this 1441 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 8: line from what was historically the worst line maybe ever 1442 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 8: in the NFL last year performance wise, right to what 1443 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 8: is now between the second and third tier somewhere in 1444 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 8: the twenty to twenty five range, which is an improvement 1445 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 8: from being thirty two by a long shot. So when 1446 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 8: you talk about the history of the Giants offensive line, 1447 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 8: you kind of have to pull back a little bit 1448 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 8: because this is Carmen Brisillo's first year. He has shown 1449 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 8: that he can get more out of these guys than 1450 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 8: the previous offensive line coaches did. 1451 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 14: And look, I'll say this, and this goes back long 1452 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 14: before Joe Shane got here. 1453 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, they went out for agency and they picked 1454 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: up three starters this OFFSEASONY got Jermaine Luminar, John Running 1455 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: and greg Van Road. That has been a successful free 1456 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: agent crop. So they did a good job, scattered a 1457 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: reasonable value with price. They're correct, not that they didn't 1458 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: break the bank on any of those three guys, that's correct. 1459 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: And going back before that, though, the Giants have been 1460 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: a trying to address the offensive line through the draft 1461 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: in a long time. And you go back to when 1462 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Reese was a general manager of Dave Gettlman being here. 1463 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, they've used a lot of high draftfics. I'm 1464 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: not going to go through the list, it's exhaustive on 1465 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, offensive linemen in the first and second round 1466 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: and it just hasn't worked out. 1467 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 14: And they've completely over redone their. 1468 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Scouting departments since then, so it's all new faces, all 1469 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 1: new guys, all new decision makers. So offensive linemen are 1470 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: tough because Harvey's right, the difference between the college and 1471 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: the pro game JC is stark in terms of what 1472 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: the guys are being asked to do and stuff like that. 1473 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: And for a long time, and again this goes back 1474 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: long before Joe Shane got here, they've had trouble drafting 1475 01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. 1476 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 3: And Smoke asked me about the next man up. I 1477 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 3: didn't talk about that the last time I was speaking. 1478 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 3: But when you have a guy that is the next 1479 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 3: man up and the other guys like veterans that are 1480 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: in his corner, like hey man, you know, you know, 1481 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 3: chying to stay, they expect that guy to make mistakes 1482 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 3: because you haven't been playing, you know, whether you're young, 1483 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 3: whether you you know, just got to the team, you 1484 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 3: know because of free agency, or you know, whatever the 1485 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 3: case is, like a timboile, like you expect guys to 1486 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 3: make mistakes and you allow that to happen because you're ready, Like, 1487 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 3: don't worry about it, bro, just forget about it. Next play. 1488 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 3: You got half the team, you said it, four guys 1489 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 3: on defense starting. That means seven new guys, seven guys 1490 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 3: that just got to the team, that just got elevated 1491 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 3: to being a starter, having that next man up mentality, 1492 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 3: that means that you got to allow some mistakes to happen. 1493 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 3: And it just sucks that it's at this point of 1494 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 3: the season right now where you have new guys playing 1495 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 3: for the Giants. It's not week one, week two or 1496 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 3: right after. You know, during the preseason. This is week fifteen. 1497 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 8: Let me go off the next man up thing first, 1498 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 8: Do we all three agree that the offensive line was 1499 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 8: actually funk somewhat functional today? 1500 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible. 1501 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 14: I would I think functionals there, okay, which is my favor. 1502 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 3: He had a couple of times, but he sat in 1503 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 3: the pocket for a while. 1504 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 14: Yes, okay, So if we agree on that, think about it. 1505 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 14: Next man up. 1506 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 8: Illumin Or was not the starting left tackle at the 1507 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 8: beginning of the season, so he was next man up 1508 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 8: at left tackle. Aaron Stinty was playing left guard. He 1509 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 8: was next man up because John Runyon went on injury 1510 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 8: serve last year. Okay, And right tackle Evan Neil is 1511 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 8: now playing right tackle for the last month because he 1512 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 8: was the next man up when they had to move 1513 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 8: illumin Or to the left side. 1514 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 14: So in reality, they. 1515 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,479 Speaker 8: Had three next man's up on this offensive line today 1516 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 8: and they were functional, were they not? So you know, 1517 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,959 Speaker 8: I get it, Harvey, you got residue from the last 1518 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 8: ten years. That's beating you down. But we gotta some 1519 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 8: folks have to get off the offensive line frustration a 1520 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 8: little bit because the situation isn't quite what it's been 1521 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 8: in previous seasons. 1522 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there were plenty of seasons where you 1523 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: could easily have that conversation. We've had them here a 1524 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: million times. But look, is it perfect? Could it still 1525 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: get better? Could you still have improvements? 1526 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 14: There? Absolutely, but that's not. 1527 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,480 Speaker 1: The source of most of the ills in this particularly 1528 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: in this particular league, or at least in my opinion. 1529 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 14: Let's go to Michael and Nutley. He's up next on 1530 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 14: Giants extra point. 1531 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 21: Hey, Michael, John at Paul Hi, Hi, Jonathan, Just quick, Ques. Yeah, 1532 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 21: I've been following yet Giants in sixty six so long time, 1533 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 21: seeing a lot big picture. I'm just trying to figure 1534 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 21: out it doesn't seem like anybody's asking the questions on leadership. 1535 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 21: What management's gonna do? I mean, under the Dabo Shane leadership, 1536 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 21: all right, we're awing aid at home this year with 1537 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 21: three thirteen and one in the division over the last 1538 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 21: three years, with one game left against Philadelphia? What is 1539 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 21: it that would justify them coming back? What brings value 1540 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 21: to bringing them back when I don't see it from 1541 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 21: a leadership standpoint that they're bringing anything to the table 1542 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 21: to help the Giants move forward. This year is gone, 1543 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 21: all right, So how do we figure that to the fans. 1544 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,719 Speaker 21: How do the fans get hold that this leadership team 1545 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 21: is going to do the right thing when they've had 1546 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 21: three years and it doesn't look like they've gotten anything right. 1547 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 8: Well, you have to look at three things if you 1548 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 8: want to make that case on the positive side, I 1549 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 8: thank you much, Okay, there would be three things that 1550 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 8: you would want to sell. Number one the fact that 1551 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 8: this combination, albeit they had a lot of leftover players, 1552 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 8: but they have gotten this team to the playoffs and 1553 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 8: won a road playoff game in twenty twenty two, So 1554 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 8: they have had success with this organization before. It's not 1555 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 8: like they haven't won at all. So that would be 1556 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 8: number one. Number two, we all the time talk about 1557 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 8: did the guys quits their finger pointing? Is the locker 1558 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 8: room splintered? Is it an absolute mess down there? That's 1559 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 8: not the case. 1560 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 14: It is still a locker room that's together and that 1561 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 14: is doing everything they can. 1562 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 8: Despite the fact that they have virtually one bullet left 1563 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 8: in the holster, they are still try to play. 1564 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 14: So that would be point number two. Point Number three 1565 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 14: is that this is still. 1566 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 8: One of the youngest teams in the NFL, and we 1567 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 8: talk about it all the time, John a Big Blue 1568 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 8: Kickoff Live and Jonathan you as well that in terms 1569 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 8: of percentage of snaps by young players and specifically rookies, 1570 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 8: the Giants are right. 1571 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 14: Up near the top of the league. 1572 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 8: So you still have a tremendously high percentage of players 1573 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 8: who are young, who are still growing, going through growing 1574 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 8: pains and making the mistakes that they're gonna make as 1575 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 8: they learn on the job. It is not an old 1576 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 8: team like the twenty seventeen Giants the year after they 1577 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 8: made the playoffs and the wheels fell off that team 1578 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 8: and you know this, John, I think was much older. 1579 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 8: There wasn't gonna be much upside to keeping a lot 1580 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 8: of those core players. It's different this time. Maybe you 1581 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 8: want to speak to that, maybe you don't, but I 1582 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 8: think that's another thing you can put on the positive 1583 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 8: side of the lecture. 1584 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 14: He was one of the old geezers on that team. 1585 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, that would have been if if I 1586 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 3: would have played one more year after that'd have been 1587 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 3: my tenth. No, no, not at all, but but I 1588 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 3: agree with you with that. You know, there's a lot 1589 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 3: of young guys that have, you know, hopefully long careers 1590 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 3: in the NFL. At least. You know, they have a 1591 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 3: long way to go, you know, in terms of their experience, 1592 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,759 Speaker 3: and you can definitely build up for that. The Giants 1593 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 3: do have some great pieces. The thing is, what I'm 1594 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 3: really concerned about is the leadership here for the Giants 1595 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 3: in the locker room. A lot of those guys are 1596 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 3: either off a team or they're hurt. That's the thing 1597 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 3: that I think that the Giants are really kind of 1598 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 3: struggling with right now. Like you look at defensively, you know, 1599 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 3: the unquestionable leaders is Bobby Okake, Desha Lawrence. Both of 1600 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 3: those guys are out. You know. That's the hardest. The middle, 1601 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,600 Speaker 3: that's the soul. Those are the guys that's been the 1602 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 3: consistent playmakers the last two years. Brian Burr is a 1603 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 3: new guy here. Yes, he's showing up every week. We 1604 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 3: talked about him before the game. He has probably been 1605 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 3: the most consistent player throughout the whole entire season this year. 1606 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 3: And he's been playing hurt the whole entire season. Every 1607 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 3: game he's come away with something. He's missing these interviews 1608 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 3: with Dave Ball because he's getting X rayed and he's 1609 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 3: getting scanned. But he's coming out here and playing hard right, 1610 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 3: and you look at the other side of the ball. Look, 1611 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is off the team. There was no question 1612 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 3: that Dan Jones one of the leaders. Say Kwon Barkley 1613 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 3: was also one of those guys. Andrew Thomas is one 1614 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 3: of those guys. Two of those guys off the team. 1615 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas is hurt. So my thing is the leadership 1616 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 3: in the locker room. That's what I'm kind of, you know, 1617 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 3: trying to figure out right now, because you got a 1618 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 3: whole bunch of young guys, but all of the older 1619 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 3: guys they're either hurt or they're new, which is which 1620 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 3: I put Burns in that category. There's no guy there. 1621 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,919 Speaker 3: There's nobody that's been here that's been in that leadership 1622 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 3: bro for more than two years. That's healthy right now 1623 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 3: playing for the New York Giants. And that is a 1624 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 3: big issue because when you look at these young guys 1625 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 3: that are playing, they need that good pep up, Like, 1626 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 3: don't worry about a young rook, don't worry about the 1627 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 3: guy you know, get it in the next play, get 1628 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 3: it next game. You'll be fine. But like, if you 1629 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 3: got one guy doing that, you need a guy in 1630 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 3: every single room, which the Giants had at the beginning 1631 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 3: of this season, but through injuries and free agency, most 1632 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 3: of those guys are not playing right now for the 1633 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 3: New York Giants. And that's why I'm nervous, because it's like, Yeah, 1634 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 3: you got a whole bunch of young guys that's get 1635 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 3: these opportunities, but we're about to the older guys in 1636 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 3: every single room that's been the leadership counsel for this room, 1637 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 3: for the team for the last two years. 1638 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 14: And the last one I'll bring up, Paul, is the 1639 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 14: process right? 1640 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about, whether it's in sports 1641 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: or business, even any sports of leadership, is that your 1642 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: process oriented? 1643 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 14: You're not results oriented? 1644 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 2: Right? 1645 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: Is your process correct? You go out there, you could 1646 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 1: do everything right, your process is good, and sometimes things 1647 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: don't go your way and you lose. Or in business, 1648 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 1: you know something happened, something fails, and then something goes 1649 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: haywy and or goes wrong. 1650 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 14: What was the process right? 1651 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: And you know John Maren, Steve Fish, the Giants co owners, 1652 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: they will have an opportunity to review the process and 1653 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 1: they'll say to themselves, look, do we think this group 1654 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: is doing things the right way? Like is the way 1655 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Joe Shane is going about scouting these players and drafting them. 1656 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Is the process correct? 1657 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 14: Is the way Brian Dable handles the building and handles 1658 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 14: the players? Is the process correct? 1659 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: That's something that even us being in the building, we 1660 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 1: don't see that up close, how everything's going on the 1661 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 1: second floor, but that's something that they will see and 1662 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,560 Speaker 1: they do see and they see what that process is like. 1663 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 1: So the evaluation of that process, how they're running the building, 1664 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 1: how they're going about their business, regardless of the results, 1665 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: is also something I think that will play a big 1666 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: factor in that decision after. 1667 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 14: Isn't it true? 1668 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 8: And John, you're a huge mixed guy like I am. 1669 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 8: There was some questions about Tippeteau. He had that one 1670 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 8: playoff season after the first three or four when it 1671 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 8: was a little rocky, and he kept saying. 1672 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 14: Stick with the process, stick with the process. 1673 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 8: They made some moves, they stuck with the process, and 1674 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 8: now you know the Knicks are winning team and they 1675 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 8: feel really good about where they're going. You gotta get 1676 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,879 Speaker 8: through those rocky roads sometimes. 1677 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: All right, quick, timeout, we still have Mike and McFadden 1678 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 1: from downstairs, Darius Slayton from downstairs, and more of your 1679 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: calls at eight eight eight, eight h eight one zero 1680 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 1: and nine Quick time out. 1681 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 14: We'll be right back right here on the fan. 1682 01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the above discount 1683 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 5: furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 1684 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 17: This is Michael McFadden and you're listening to the radio 1685 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 17: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM, 1686 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 17: New York. 1687 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 14: Back here on Giants Extra Point. 1688 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,839 Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Baltimore Ravens thirty five to fourteen. 1689 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: Micah McFadden in this game played another very solid football 1690 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: game for the New York Football Giants. 1691 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 14: He's really been one of their bright spots this year. 1692 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: In this game today, eleven tackles, seven solo, He had 1693 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: a sack, quarterback hit. 1694 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 14: He would talk to the media after the game in 1695 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 14: the locker room. 1696 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 8: Micah the dual threat with Jackson in the backfield and 1697 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,800 Speaker 8: of course Henry you knew coming in it was going to. 1698 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 14: Be a huge challenge. 1699 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 8: It looked like it contained Henry somewhat, but Jackson was 1700 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 8: a big problem. 1701 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1702 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 3: No, they're two really good players over there. 1703 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 17: You know, obviously did a good job extending plays and 1704 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 17: finally receivers down the field. 1705 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 3: Well, it's definitely a difficult task with those guys for sure. 1706 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 8: Back there, again, Henry did not have his typical kind 1707 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,600 Speaker 8: of game. Could you tell me what it's like to 1708 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 8: try to stop a double decker bus like him? 1709 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 17: Yeah, he's he's a big bag, for sure. You need 1710 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 17: two or three guys at the point of attack. I 1711 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 17: think we did a good job for the most part. 1712 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 17: We didn't let him you know, break one, you know, 1713 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 17: like he normally does. But yeah, you know, there's two 1714 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 17: running backs back there, for sure. Difficult task. But you know, 1715 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 17: I thought the guys played hard. I thought we communicated well, 1716 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 17: but too many big plays for short. 1717 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, there were a couple of bus that looked like 1718 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 8: on a couple of big passes that were critical. It 1719 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 8: was twenty one to seven at halftime only because they 1720 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 8: had squarely touchdown late in the second quarter. But I 1721 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 8: thought you guys defensively had really fought very hard up. 1722 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:43,719 Speaker 14: To that point. 1723 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 17: Yeah, you know, I thought they had two or three 1724 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 17: plays in the first half. But for the most part, 1725 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 17: I think we were doing a good job stopping the 1726 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 17: run game. Yeah, like you said, they got you know, 1727 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 17: a few plays there at the end, and obviously we 1728 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 17: would have liked to stop that third touchdown in the 1729 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 17: first half. Keep it closer for the offense coming back 1730 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 17: in this second half. But yeah, you know he found 1731 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 17: the receivers when he was scrambling, and obviously he made 1732 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 17: the plays you know when he was getting out of 1733 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 17: pocket as well. 1734 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1735 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 10: How frustrating isn't playing. 1736 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 5: A couple of times you're in his grill He's still 1737 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,839 Speaker 5: making back back. 1738 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Foot thos entape win. It's got to be full strating 1739 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 2: to play like sixty minutes. 1740 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. 1741 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 17: I mean he's a great player, is one of the 1742 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 17: best in the league for a reason. We knew that 1743 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 17: going into this game. You know I had obviously just 1744 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 17: being in my position, you know, I could see some 1745 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 17: of the throws and where he was putting them, and 1746 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,560 Speaker 17: you know he's definitely died in you know, he was 1747 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 17: a player. 1748 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 3: We saw him film. 1749 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 1: That's Mike McFadden after the game. And again he's been 1750 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 1: one of the bright spots. He's continued to play well 1751 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:45,599 Speaker 1: despital of these injuries. 1752 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 14: On defense the last two weeks. 1753 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 8: He's had eleven tackles and eleven tackles last week, had 1754 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 8: five for a loss, only had one misstackle last week 1755 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 8: and I think today I had him for two he 1756 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 8: has played two of his better games. 1757 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 14: He became a New York Giant. 1758 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a man. I'll tell you what. He's great 1759 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 3: around the line of scrimmage. He's downhill, he's very decisive. 1760 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 3: Once he rerun, he knows where he's going. 1761 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 14: He caps very well, He's very assortive. 1762 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,879 Speaker 3: He gets there very quickly, you know, and that's sometimes 1763 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 3: you know, when you get there, you be surprised when 1764 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 3: you get there. Who's there? You know? Is it a guard, 1765 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 3: is it a running back? You know, like that could 1766 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 3: that could catch you off some you know, off guard sometimes. 1767 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 14: But mentally he's sharp, pre snap, he knows the man. 1768 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 3: He's real sharp. But then like his read and react, 1769 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to think it. Don't look 1770 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 3: like he's thinking that all out there. He's just playing 1771 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 3: and he plays at a very high, fast paced level. 1772 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 3: And I think other guys can feed off of that. 1773 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 3: For sure. 1774 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 8: This is a great example of a young player who's 1775 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 8: getting better. Because last year he led the Giants with 1776 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 8: twenty two missed tackles. 1777 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 14: Even though he had over one hundred. And why is that? 1778 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 14: We know why because a lot of times he took 1779 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 14: bad angles. Well. 1780 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,640 Speaker 8: As you mature and you understand the game better and 1781 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 8: you play better and faster, you you wind up cutting 1782 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 8: down on those bad angles. 1783 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's one of the things you get better at. 1784 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 14: And he's fewer mistackles. Yes, it is exactly. That's a 1785 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 14: part of it. 1786 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 3: When you look at last week, right, look at last 1787 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 3: week's numbers, five tackles for losses. Last year that I 1788 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 3: have been two to three miss tackles and maybe two 1789 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 3: three yard games instead of behind a line of scrimmage. 1790 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, right, Let's go to uh Ron and Tom's over. 1791 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 1: He's up next on on Giants extra. 1792 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 22: Point here Ron, Hey, guys, that was everyone. Shout out 1793 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 22: to Lexi, your producer of Alex. I have a question 1794 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 22: and with the first gentleman who started off the program, 1795 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 22: he wasn't wrong about next stand up. I actually have 1796 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 22: two people that I thought should have been more assertive, 1797 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 22: uh because they've been on the team for longer, Bellinger 1798 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 22: and Slayton. This was a game where they could have like, 1799 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 22: you know, kind of gavanized galvanized the offense a little 1800 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 22: bit and then have the offense run through them. Because 1801 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 22: Neighbors is the one man show, we all know that, 1802 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 22: but it's just a shame the turn that Bellinger took 1803 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,759 Speaker 22: in his career and Clayton, you know, being a veteran 1804 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,680 Speaker 22: and you know, like this is a game where you 1805 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 22: know he could have shown a little bit more. I 1806 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 22: don't know at fire or like he just like was 1807 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 22: out there but wasn't really like doing anything. You know, 1808 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 22: Like I don't know, it was just weird, like you know, 1809 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 22: like you lean on the people that you have and 1810 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 22: you guys are talking about next man up and all that. 1811 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,680 Speaker 22: It's like there are leaders on the team right that 1812 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 22: have been there forever and you know it's just I 1813 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,560 Speaker 22: don't know, that's that stuck out speak today kind of 1814 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 22: watching the game. 1815 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Iron appreciate the call. Look, Bellinger had a busy week 1816 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,559 Speaker 1: last week. Three catches thirty five yards today five last week, Right, Yeah, 1817 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think he's done a pretty good job 1818 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: stating for. 1819 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 14: The coaches really honest with him. 1820 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 8: Coaches really appreciate him as a guy who does everything 1821 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 8: he's asked to do. 1822 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 14: And then somebody's a great teammate. He's a hard worker player, 1823 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 14: two way player. 1824 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 8: He's had his snaps reduced this year because of THEO 1825 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 8: Johnson and you know, he's certainly much less involved in 1826 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 8: the passing game that he used to be. 1827 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 14: Do you think athletically there's that much of a difference 1828 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,760 Speaker 14: between Johnson and Bellinger. I do think that Johnson has 1829 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 14: has better uh what is it the r S? 1830 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 6: Uh? 1831 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that THEO Johnson's r S score is 1832 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 8: like one of the highest tight ends of all time. 1833 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 14: I think, probably better straight ahead speed than then than 1834 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 14: what bel. 1835 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with both of those. So, but those 1836 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 3: guys that you talk about, Daniel Belig or Derek Slayton, 1837 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,560 Speaker 3: they can't create players for themselves, like they have to 1838 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,760 Speaker 3: get the ball thrown to them. You know, someone had 1839 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 3: one target, that's how I was going, and Bellinger only 1840 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 3: had three with three catches, you know, like you only 1841 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 3: get so many opportunities when you play those positions, you know, 1842 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 3: and they got to make the most of it, you know. 1843 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,679 Speaker 3: And this Giants offense has not been you know good. 1844 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 3: They're definitely at home, the Giants haven't been that good. 1845 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 3: I mean, fourteen points is well beyond the average of 1846 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 3: the points that they've been scoring at home. I think 1847 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 3: they're averaging like maybe single digits at home. And they 1848 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 3: got two touchdowns today, which is you know, I mean, 1849 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 3: it's not great, but at the same time, it's better 1850 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 3: than what they've been doing at home, which is crazy 1851 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 3: to even say out loud, Milk, but it's the truth, 1852 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 3: you know. And it's only so many opportunities they're going 1853 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,679 Speaker 3: to have. The Giants are on your fourth string quarterback 1854 01:21:59,640 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 3: and they. 1855 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 14: And they set up over forty times today. 1856 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 3: You had to, you know, being down twenty one to seven, 1857 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,560 Speaker 3: and you know, after the first half, you know, and 1858 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 3: the Giants, you know, they're in a rough situation, you know, 1859 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 3: And I think it says a lot, you know, that 1860 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,759 Speaker 3: the Giants are being competitive, you know, and it didn't 1861 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 3: look like that from the score, but I didn't see that. 1862 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,160 Speaker 3: There wasn't a time where I looked at this team 1863 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 3: today during the game where I was like, man, they 1864 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,759 Speaker 3: gave up. No, there were a lot of mental errors 1865 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 3: that I saw. But that's what happens when you got 1866 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 3: guys that never played football before, you know, guys that 1867 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,600 Speaker 3: are just starting to play in the NFL for the 1868 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,639 Speaker 3: first time or second time. You're going to have mental errors. 1869 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 3: And you saw guys, you know, leaving guys wide open defensively, 1870 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 3: and that's what happens when you got young guys out there. 1871 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 1: So Bellinger came into a nine point sixty nine RAZ 1872 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 1: score and Deo Johnson was a nine to nine to nine. 1873 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: He was the second highest, I believe, in history in 1874 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 1: terms of tight ends and athletic profile. So I mean, yeah, 1875 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 1: I mean it was four five seven versus four six 1876 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 1: three on the forty four to one to nine shuttle 1877 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: versus a four to four to seven. Belngjish had a 1878 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,719 Speaker 1: better three code need a seven oh two. Deo Johnson 1879 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 1: was seven to one five. But so yeah, so not 1880 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 1: that big of a difference. Both guys really have, right, 1881 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,719 Speaker 1: Theo Johnson with a little bit of a step above. 1882 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's finish off the calls with Wilson, our 1883 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: buddy in Roxbury. 1884 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,640 Speaker 18: Hi, Wilson, Johnnay, listen, I told you I wasn't going 1885 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:17,639 Speaker 18: to go the show. 1886 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,679 Speaker 14: But this is the ring you like to be Wilson. 1887 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 14: That's a technicality. 1888 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 21: I want to say. 1889 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:32,679 Speaker 18: I want to say Mary Christmas to my buddy John. Hey, listen, 1890 01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 18: I'm gonna give you four things, all right, fourth things, 1891 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 18: four all right? 1892 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,640 Speaker 21: I love you, Holy I love you. 1893 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 18: It stops saying that the giants play hard so today, 1894 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 18: so the so the Jacksonville Jaguards, so that the Tennessee Titans, 1895 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 18: so that the CAROLINEA Panthers, so that the New Orleans 1896 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 18: things for the third string quarterback. It stops saying that, Polly, 1897 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 18: stop saying that. You make it sound like the place 1898 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 18: play hard for this head coach. Place play hard for 1899 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 18: themselves poorly. You drite people crazy poorly. I know, I 1900 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 18: understand why you say it, but listen, you gotta stop. Okay, 1901 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 18: place play hard for themselves. 1902 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 3: Man, that's it, say Wilson, take it easier, my god, 1903 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 3: Paul brou Wilson. 1904 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: Wilson, Now, Wilson, hold on, hold on, I'm not gonna 1905 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 1: let you at that ball, Jase. How many teams, if 1906 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,240 Speaker 1: you were, players don't play hard, be as they don't 1907 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 1: believe in the coach. 1908 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,040 Speaker 3: It ain't. It didn't look I've been. I've been four 1909 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 3: different teams, a bunch of different coaches. It ain't happen 1910 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 3: that many times. It ain't. It ain't happen that many times. 1911 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,679 Speaker 3: But Wilson does have a point. They do play hard 1912 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 3: for themselves. I do agree with that. But you better 1913 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 3: stop coming at my guy, Paul right now. 1914 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 18: But I love them. 1915 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, you know, I just I got you. 1916 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 8: But if I can that five times, if I could 1917 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 8: just project one thing, because you're talking about the Giants 1918 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:05,040 Speaker 8: and this is Giants program. We've seen Giants teams that 1919 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 8: did I'm sorry, but they did not play their butts 1920 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 8: off at the end of Pat Shermer's tenure. They did 1921 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,679 Speaker 8: not play their butts at the end of Belly mcadow's tenure. 1922 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 8: You saw those teams. 1923 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,720 Speaker 14: Did you not answer me? 1924 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 8: Did you did you watch those teams? And did those 1925 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 8: teams not put out f let Let's get to we 1926 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:30,799 Speaker 8: gotta go, we gotta. 1927 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 18: Go, we gotta go another. Let me let me finish 1928 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 18: it with this. 1929 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 15: Uh listen, Jenny, Uh. 1930 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 18: You know, all the general managers want to win, and 1931 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 18: when it drive. 1932 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 15: Well, all the coaches want to win. 1933 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 18: All the coaches want to win. So if so, but 1934 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,200 Speaker 18: coaches give fire and general managers cape kill fire. 1935 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 15: And when you ate in twenty three in two years, 1936 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 15: you don't have too much. You don't what what what 1937 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 15: is there? I mean, it's hard. 1938 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 18: It's hard. As much as everybody wants continuity, it's hard. 1939 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 8: Listen. 1940 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 15: I said again, I'm gonna wait till the end of 1941 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 15: the season. 1942 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 18: But but you can't. You can't just say, well, they're. 1943 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 15: Doing this world, then do it. Giants fans don't care 1944 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 15: about that man. At the end of the day, you 1945 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 15: want to have fun sometime and listen and you say 1946 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 15: about you say about about the playoffs. At the playoffs 1947 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 15: game to day one, right, Daniel Jones that they threw 1948 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 15: into the curve because everybody wants to give Brian davill 1949 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 15: all the credit for winning that game. Daniel Jones. 1950 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 18: People forget he set a record for throwing over three 1951 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 18: hundred yards and running for seventy five yards. 1952 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 15: But for some reason, Hey, Daniel Jones had nothing to 1953 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:39,639 Speaker 15: do with that game. 1954 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 18: It was briand. 1955 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate will I prog Wilsid, appreciate the call by Fred. 1956 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 14: We understand it is a results oriented business. We know 1957 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 14: what the record is. No one's hiding from that. We 1958 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,680 Speaker 14: get it. We get it. 1959 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back, 1960 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 1: wrap things up. Look at the next week's game. Giants 1961 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,080 Speaker 1: fall to the even thirty five to fourteen. 1962 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:01,720 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 1963 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs Discount 1964 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 5: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 1965 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,599 Speaker 12: This is mylik neighbors, and you're listening to the radio 1966 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 12: home of Big Blue the Fan WFEN and WFAN FM, 1967 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 12: New York. 1968 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 14: Back here on Giants extra point. 1969 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: Giants loose to the Ravens thirty five to fourteen Aman 1970 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 1: Ross Brown with a little drop there on a two 1971 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,759 Speaker 1: minute drill from the Detroit Lions. They trail the Buffalo 1972 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 1: Bills twenty one to does that field goal no good? 1973 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 14: Did they miss it? 1974 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 1: I think they did try to go up twenty one 1975 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: to seventeen there on a field goal. They miss it 1976 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,519 Speaker 1: at the end of the second quarter. So they'll trail 1977 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: the Bills by seven heading into the second half of 1978 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 1: this game. Guys, give me your look ahead. We got 1979 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: the Falcons in Atlanta next week, Paul. One of three 1980 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,920 Speaker 1: games left on the schedule, there are one game under 1981 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,680 Speaker 1: five hundred. They have been very up and down all 1982 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 1: season long. A franchise that you know, they haven't been 1983 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,000 Speaker 1: to the playoffs since twenty seventeen. 1984 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 14: Hasn't been that long. 1985 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I did realize that. 1986 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 8: And Kirk Cousins, by the way, all right, for all 1987 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 8: the regular season numbers that he puts up, he's going 1988 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,559 Speaker 8: to pick in the last four games in each. 1989 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 14: Of the last four he's had a rough go. The 1990 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,560 Speaker 14: last one he has had a rough go. 1991 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 8: In fact, over those last four games, he's had a 1992 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 8: total of eight interceptions, including a four pick game two 1993 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 8: weeks ago. So Kirk Cousins is the kind of guy. 1994 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 8: When he's on, he can really light up your fantasy 1995 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 8: football team. But when he's off, he can give you 1996 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 8: real big time Agita helps playing indoors, which they'll be 1997 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,400 Speaker 8: for the game next week. 1998 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Atlanta lost a couple of straight, well four straight, 1999 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,599 Speaker 3: but they're still right there in their division. They're still 2000 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,639 Speaker 3: right there, So they're still playing for something. You're gonna 2001 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 3: get a motivated Atlanta. 2002 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,800 Speaker 14: Team and Bucks right now. 2003 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: Speaking with Bucks, trail the Chargers seventeen thirteen right now, 2004 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 1: so they're chasing the Bucks for first place in the 2005 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 1: NFC South. 2006 01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 14: Two of the scores. 2007 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 1: By the way, Philly leads Pittsburgh seventeen to ten. Colts 2008 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: lead the Broncos thirteen to seven, Cardinals lead the Patriots 2009 01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: thirteen to three. Here today now Atlanta Place tomorrow night. 2010 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 2011 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 14: Okay, the Raiders. The Raiders. 2012 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 8: Now, I don't think this is going to happen, but 2013 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 8: I've noticed the last couple of weeks as Cousins has 2014 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 8: had some cases of interception. 2015 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,720 Speaker 14: That is at Las Vegas by the way. 2016 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, if he really winds up flopping out again tomorrow night, 2017 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 8: at some point, there's gonna be pressure to play Michael 2018 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 8: Pennox shack. 2019 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 1: He's a bad first half of them, so they'll be 2020 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,640 Speaker 1: pressure from the fans to bring him minute a halftime now. 2021 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,640 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris was asked about that this week and he 2022 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 1: said that Thousands was still the guy right now, that 2023 01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Penix it will be his time when he's ready. 2024 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 14: Right now. I find that answer. 2025 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,240 Speaker 1: I considering they decide not to play him in the 2026 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,719 Speaker 1: final two preseason games because said he's already ready. 2027 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,360 Speaker 14: Now he's not ready, but it. 2028 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 3: Is what it is. That's interesting. I didn't know that 2029 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 3: happened with him. Yeah, the preseason game. Well, we got 2030 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 3: to be aware because he's a different monster than Kirk Cousins. 2031 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 3: He's a whole different player than he is, and both. 2032 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Pocket passers, but Pennick, certainly, especially off the Achilles, much 2033 01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 1: more mobile than Thanks all right, gentlemen, enjoy, We'll see 2034 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,000 Speaker 1: you next Sunday, and jac and I will be at 2035 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,640 Speaker 1: Tommy's tavern and Taplon Luthrie and Clifton to do the 2036 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 1: pre and postgame shows. 2037 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 14: Guys want to come down, you can. We'll be there 2038 01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 14: starting at eleven am. 2039 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Say hello, We'll try to do some interactive up with 2040 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 1: the crowd and we'll hang out with you at at 2041 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 1: Tommy's on Ruth three week and I'll just at the 2042 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Google search you can find it. 2043 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 14: Then there are all the kids. It's a really nice restaurant. 2044 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 14: It's a good spot. 2045 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 1: So look forward to being there next week in paul 2046 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: o'br Eyes and Ears in Atlanta. Giants Extra Point was 2047 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank. 2048 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 14: Of the New York Giants. 2049 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,439 Speaker 1: Citizens has made ready for Giants fans Hackett Sack Murdy 2050 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 1: in Health, keep getting Better, Fearless Boilers the world's best 2051 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: bill Boilers, and buy Moody's Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity, Learn 2052 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Moore at Moodies dot com. I cannot be happier that 2053 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 1: I get to throw it to the shows Steve Summers, 2054 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,720 Speaker 1: who follows us right here on the fan. 2055 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,879 Speaker 14: I produce Steve Show for a very long time. Awesome. 2056 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Great to see him and hear him on the air 2057 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,040 Speaker 1: once again. So Steve Summers coming up next to shoes 2058 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,080 Speaker 1: right here on the fan. We'll talk to you guys 2059 01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:58,519 Speaker 1: next week. 2060 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 14: From it me hearing you there. 2061 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:21,679 Speaker 4: Pages naming engage unaged, very. 2062 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:44,400 Speaker 8: NASA us NA