WEBVTT - Breaking Down Potential QB Competition & Offseason Moves | Bucs Insider 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.200 Welcome to Bucks Insider Live. Casey Phillips. Here was senior 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.120 writer and editor Scott Smith, and we have more free 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.320 agency news to talk about. I love this time of year, 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.280 but this was supposed to be quiet this year. Yeah, 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.160 he had no money. We weren't going to do anything right. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.000 Wasn't that the sentiment? Yeah, and then now we've got 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.079 all this news, which is so exciting. Let's start, of course, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.720 with the Baker Mayfield signing. And he's now officially met 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.880 with the media. And last week when we did the show, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.520 it was sort of like there were reports we couldn't 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.559 talk about yet, so now we can talk about it. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.760 Tell me your initial thoughts on bringing Baker Mayfield in 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.680 and what you think his participation could be in this 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.080 team when he could bring his experience and just kind 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.800 of what fans might not know about her. I think 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.840 I think the move makes sense for both the team 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.160 and the player of The Bucks obviously needed some sort 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.760 of veteran competition at the very least for Kyle Trask. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.680 And you have a guy that has started in this 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.440 league quite a bit, and Baker, I mean look around 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.400 the league. Where else could he have gone with as 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.560 clear of an opportunity to compete for a starting job. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.320 You know, it's not being given to him. They've made 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.960 it extremely clear, especially to him, that this is a competition. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.960 So Kyle Trask could win that job, Baker Mayfield could 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.480 win that job. But where else was Baker going to 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.240 go for this clear cut of an opportunity. Yeah, and 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.600 to have the kind of weapons the Bucks have. You 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.000 know that if you're going to try to compete for 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.520 a starting job, then you care about what's going to 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.480 be there if you win it. And he's looking forward 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.880 to throwing the ball to Mike and Chris. He called 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.080 him dogs. I love that, which is true. Now, what 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.160 you're hoping for, obviously, is that you get the twenty 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.520 twenty version of Baker Mayfield. And you know, in twenty 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.400 twenty one he struggled with a shoulder injury. Who knows 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.039 how much that affected him, but it wasn't as good 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.759 of a year. Last year with Carolina didn't really work out, 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.280 and then he kind of had a little renaissance to 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.800 their team with the Rams, particularly starting less than forty 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.920 eight hours after he got there and helping them beat 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.280 the Raiders. But if you can get to twenty twenty 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.280 version of Baker Mayfield, which is not that long ago. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.560 This is pretty good. I mean, he led his team 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.200 to the playoffs, first time they'd been in playoffs in 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.600 like eighteen years, sixty two point percent completion percentage, thirty 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.080 five hundred yards, and that touchdown to interception ratio is 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.600 what you're looking for. That's what hasn't been there in 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.720 the majority of in his other seasons. That really good 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.400 touchdown to interception ratio. Too many picks and other seasons. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.520 But man, if you can get that, and there's no 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.160 reason why that can't happen, right, I mean, the circumstances 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.360 were probably really good in Cleveland that particular year, But 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.840 I think you've got a similar thing here with the Buccaneers. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.040 So you know, it's who knows, right. It's not like 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.240 the Buccaneers know for sure that Baker Mayfield is gonna 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:16.960 play that good. But there's there's a chance, there's a shot. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.440 It's totally worth the role of the dice, I think, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:20.639 and it's I think it's going to be so fun 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.440 to watch a quarterback competition that I was thinking in 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.639 my time here with the Bucks, I haven't watched. Were 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.440 talking about that the other day Yeah, how long has 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.639 it been since there's been a quarterback competition? And man 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.880 talk about training camp storylines that are fun to watch 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.640 and you know, reasons to come out and come to practice. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.280 It's going to be really fun to I mean twenty 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.600 twelve there was there was Josh Freeman and Mike Lennon, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.040 but I don't think we knew it was a competition. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.560 We didn't know that, Greg Shan, I don't want to 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.680 get rid of Josh Freeman. So it took three games 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.400 in the season two thousand and nine when Josh Freeman 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.720 was drafted, you had him and Byron Leftwich and Josh 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.160 Johnson and maybe in May you didn't know who's going 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.560 to start. But it really wasn't a big competition in 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.560 training camp. So I really can't tell you. Maybe Vinney 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.280 Testaverdi and Chris Chandler back in the early nineties. There 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.160 just haven't been a lot of these QB competitions. So 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.840 it's it's kind of interesting. It is, we'll make for 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.040 an interesting campers it is, which is you know, we 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.600 kind of enjoy the interesting storylines of now here. Yeah, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.399 you know, you really don't want to have back competitions 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.200 a lot, right, because you want to have a good, solid, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.519 settled quarterback. But hey, if you don't have that and 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.079 Tom Brady anymore, then this could the next best thing. Yeah, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.680 I agree. And also another edition for free agency, the 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.120 Bucks now have a new running back. Tell us about 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.280 this edition and what you think that that role would 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.520 be looking at, especially with Rashad White. I'm gonna do 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.040 the same thing I did with Baker Mayfield there. And 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.760 I don't mean to be cherry picking here and saying, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.720 you know, picking the one time they were good and 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.200 saying that's that. But you could understand why the Buccaneers 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.480 would sign these players because they have reasonably they can 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.160 be that version of themselves. Chase Evans spent four pretty 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.600 good years in Arizona, then last year signed with Miami, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.640 and Miami signed about a thousand running backs, give or 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.600 take a few, and so it never really He never 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.280 really got much a role there in Miami and got 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.640 traded to Denver, whose offense was a mess too. So 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.280 if you write that off and go back to his 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.760 last full season in Arizona, that was twenty twenty one, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.200 again not very long ago. These are his per game 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.480 and per carry averages, so that's about seventy five yards 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.480 a game. Would you take seventy five yards of scrimmage 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.200 from your backup running back? Yes, per game? And yards 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.640 per carry is good. Yards perception. You don't see yards 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.320 for touch very often. You know that's yards for all 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.960 carries in catches combine. You just don't see that Stevery oven. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.280 So it was five point seven good? Do you have 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.760 any idea is five point seven goods? It's pretty good 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.720 for running back? Last year, our guy Leonard Fournette was 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.280 four point five, Rashad White was five point zero, se 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.680 Quon Barkley was four point seven. Josh Jacobs five point two. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.159 Nick Chubb. I'm not saying he's Josh Jacobs or Nick Chubb. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.160 I'm just saying there's reason to believe he can give 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.240 you good quality snaps on offense and and be an 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.240 asset to that. Yeah. I think I saw that. What 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.360 is it? He and sa Quon Barkley are the only 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.840 ones from that draft class that have what is it? 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.599 Fifteen hundred rushing yards and a thousand receiving both good. Yeah, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.280 I thought that was pretty cool. I mean, anytime it's 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.480 you and sa Quon Barkley, I'll take that stab anytime, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.800 And so, yeah, what do you see as the way 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.640 potentially he and Rashad White kind of get used off 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.280 of each other. How could they help each other potentially? 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.919 And just now again we have a new offensive coordinator. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.520 We don't know as much about what the offense overall 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.520 could look like, except he did say he really wants 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.200 to emphasize that run game. He does want to make 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.720 sure that we have a running game, which we haven't 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.320 had for the last couple of years. And so I 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.240 think that means, you know, like most teams, you're running backs, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.680 you do have a number one, Rashad White your number one, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.120 but you have several that you use quite a bit 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.200 during the game. Most teams are like that. Most teams 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.520 don't have one Saquon Barkley that they ride on every 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.679 snap or Derreck Henry. So you need a couple guys. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.920 And I could see him, especially carving out a third 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.080 down role. He's a good pass catcher out of the backfield, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.360 I would imagine, although I can't say no for sure 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.280 that having played that role in his career pretty steadily, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.320 he's probably a good pass blocker as well. Has to 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.680 be in order to be the third guy. Rashad White 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.320 catches the ball well, but I don't know if he's 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.920 your every down, third down guy, so at the very 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.760 least I think he can be that. Okay, And then 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.919 I know, we also had another signing, Cam Gill. This 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.480 is a guy that's been with us before, and I 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.800 feel like this is definitely going to be one of 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.160 those under the radar signings in terms of just name 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.920 recognition all of that. But for me, I'm actually really 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.880 intrigued and excited by this. This is a guy that 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.359 I think we've both been kind of fascinated by. Has 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.240 an interesting story. So tell people a little bit about 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.520 what this real small school guy. I think Wagner correctly him. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.640 You know, he came in, made the roster as an 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.440 undrafted free agent out of Wagner as in his rookie year, 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.479 didn't really play a lot, and then very notably got 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.040 his very first SAC ever in the Super Bowl half 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.240 and half with domin Coin Sue. But then in twenty 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.279 twenty one only played maybe one hundred snaps of defense, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:22.800 but did have a sack and a half, had some 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:27.200 quarterback pressures, and last year, going into training camp, you know, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.599 we eventually signed Karl Nasson Dard Avery, right, But the 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.360 plan was he was going to be the fourth guy 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.000 in your olb rotation, which means he would have played 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.400 a handful of snaps. And then had it been that 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.280 way when Shaq got hurt, he would have moved up 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.640 into the third role and would have played a lot 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.800 lot more. Instead, he had a Liz Frank injury in 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.120 his right foot in the first preseason game, was gone 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.880 for the year, and the Bucks eventually signed Karl Masse 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.960 and Card Avery. But he was intended to have a 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.720 pretty significant role and so we'll see if you can 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.760 do that again. He plays on special teams as well. Yeah, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.960 And I think it's also good to emphasize not only 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.120 like what you said about he being an undrafted guy 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.960 who was able to make the roster, it was in 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.000 the COVID year where there was like no off season, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.040 so I think about what a limited time this guy had. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:10.119 It's already stacked against you in terms of even having 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.720 you know that ability no matter what when you're undrafted, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.840 but when there's almost no snaps that speaks so highly 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.000 to what he does, and then you see it when 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.440 he gets in the game. So few snaps and he 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.440 makes that mark that he's a guy that no matter where, 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.160 how little he's given, he makes something of it. It 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.000 reminds me kind of what we talked about with Mike 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.400 Edwards of where he may not have played as much, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.560 but every time he was in it felt like he 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.480 got an interception. That cam Gill kind of feels like 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.120 that to me of when he may not play that 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.200 many snaps, but when he gets in there, he makes 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.360 a mark. You know who else came in the league 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.160 as an undrafted guy and kind of weigh his chance 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.400 to get a shot, Shack Barrett. That's true's and what 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.560 a great guy to learn from. In recent we do 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.480 have a couple bits of news so we can talk 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.440 about yeah, yeah, go ahead. I've been told you know, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.559 I know, we've been said said several times. We really 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.320 before the team announces things, you kind of have to 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:55.840 sit on a little bit, like we did with Baker 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.680 Mayfield last year. But I am led to believe that 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.560 Greg Gaines, that defensive lineman from the Rams, is going 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.400 to officially sign today with the Buccaneers, and that Levante David, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.880 thank Goodness, is going to officially signed. So that's probably 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.240 going to happen today, yes, well, and the Great Gains 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.920 one is interesting just in general, where do you see 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.440 our defensive line at this point and in terms of 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.080 who we have who is that you know, how much 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.320 of a position is that going to be where they 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.960 might still need to add some pieces and you know 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.080 just how those snaps are going to be shared at 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.280 this point. Well, you've already lost Rakine Nuna's roches or 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.760 Natro to the Giants, so at the very least it's 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.840 a one for one replacement there. And Nato played a lot, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.000 you know, especially when Vito get would get banged up. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.440 Real good backup nose tackle. I think Great Gains probably 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.719 has a little bit more of a pass rush to him. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.240 He's got eight and a half sacks in the last 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.880 couple of years. Really kind of didn't get a lot 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.439 of playing times first couple of years, but it has 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.320 the last two and has really kind of, you know, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.560 emerged as a pretty decent guy in there. To give 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.880 you He's sturdy and good against the rum, but he 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.600 gives a little bit of a pass rush to him. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.600 And Vita Vea played together for three years at Washington 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.840 and their stats for those three years were practically identical. Yeah, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.360 the our scouts love them some Washington the guys, and 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.080 you've been able to see why they've the line. It's incredible. Yeah, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.240 and then I mean even Kadalen, Right, that's right. But 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.440 I'm also always thinking you mencho try and say yes. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.560 But I was just saying in general, like our team overall, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.400 they're just collecting these kinds they've done for Yeah. So 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.040 that's a good edition, and obviously we're thrilled out the Dante. Yes, Yes, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.960 everyone is excited for that. All right, Well, we are 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.600 going to also record our road to the draft after this, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.480 So for all these moves that we just talked about 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.640 and more, we're going to discuss how they might affect 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.440 what the Bucks are or are not going to do 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.080 in the draft. To make sure you stay tuned for 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.959 that later on on Buccaneers dot com. And we'll see 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:32.480 you next time.