1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: We welcome you in to our homes, Episode number thirty 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: of the best podcast available for two thousand and twenty. 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: We have reached thirty episodes. We continued to chug on 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Jason Gives alongside and Andrew Gribble going through the virtual 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: off season. Only three weeks left of the virtual offseason 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Gribbs and again thirty episodes. We've seen quite a lot 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: here in the last twelve plus weeks that we've been 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, I mean we've covered free agency, We've 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: covered the draft schedule, release, off season program. It's been 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: a whole lot. And it's crazy to think this was 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: the week last year the Brown's head mandatory minicamp. So 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean this is this would usually be your final 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: week of the program. I went back and looked. We 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: had stories about Odell Beckham's for press conference with during 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: this time of year. I mean, the guys were done 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: by by Thursday of this week, so it is going 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: to stretch a little bit longer. But it's just been 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: so different with without any actual football appening here. Yeah, 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I totally forgot last year. We we normally we're done 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: that weekend going into or that week going into Father's Day. Weekend, 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: and last year we were done a week early, actually, 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: and I messed it up. It was done last week. 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: It was the first week of June, you know, it 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: was June three, fourth, and fifth. I believe last year 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: they got it done early last year. So it it is. 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: This is a longer off season program. It's just completely different. Well, 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: the longer this virtual off season goes, the more apparent 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: it seems to be that barring some kind of last 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: minute change or vote or correction, you know, there won't 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: be anything involving the players in the football building and 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: on the football field until training camp. And speaking of that, 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Albert Brier from mm QBB m MQB dot com with 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: his weekly Monday morning column, and he's got a few 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: things about us coming back and teams coming back in general. Uh, 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: bear with me as I go through. We're gonna we're 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna talk through three of these topics coming up on 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: the podcast. Though today we are excited as our get 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: to know you segment continues on the best podcast available. 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: New linebacker coach Jason tarveror going to join us today. 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Excited about that the man with a wealth of knowledge 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: and experiences, especially on the West Coast, a lot of 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,279 Speaker 1: time with the Raiders, with the forty niners, with Stanford 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: as well, and look forward to hearing from him most 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: recently with Vanderbilt. So looking forward to getting to know 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: him as our get to Know you segment continues on 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: the best podcast available, but talking c b A talking 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: about when we can return, what that might look like, 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: and his first note. The new CBA dictates teams can 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: report forty seven days before their first regular season game, 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: a change from the old fourteen day rule, meaning the 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: report date for most teams would be July. Meanwhile, the 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Joint Committee on Health and Safety is recommending an acclamation 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: period before camp. Maybe we should just call that the 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Alabama rule. Given the lack of football activity these guys 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: have had of at least a week or two and 56 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: up to three. The good news is the new cb 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: A builds in a five day acclamation period. Bad news 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: is players may need to move, may need more than 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: that under these unique circumstances. So the league has floated 60 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the idea of an earlier report date closer to the 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: middle of July to give players a better chance to 62 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: get their feet underneath them. Long winded, but a good 63 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: explanation from Albert Breer on that Grims. Do you see 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: that happening. Do you see the Players Association agreeing to 65 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, it's just gonna depend on how 66 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: important they've they valued these preseason games because you need 67 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: these guys to be ready to go and and you 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: don't want to put them in any harm's way. And 69 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: I think that you know you don't want to put 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: anyone in harm's way. But all the all the underlying 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: things you see there may lead me to believe that 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: we might see even less of the starters in in 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: preseason situations because there there might be the added risk 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: there because the acclamation period. I mean, look at what 75 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: the NBA is doing with how much time they're devoting 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: to really gearing these guys up to get ready to play. 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Everyone's wondering like, why does this take so long? And 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: it's all the medical experts saying, these guys need weeks 79 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: uh to get ready to train and be ready to 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: play basketball. And I think the same thing is going 81 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: to apply to football. It's that's gonna be a hard 82 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: thing to negotiate those getting these guys back mid July. 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not the norm that especially after 84 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: they've already had their off season programs go a little 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: bit deeper into June than they typically have before. All right, Um, 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: the Union also has been understandably protective of the players 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: vacation time, and that's one of the reasons why I 88 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: think the thought across the league is there won't be 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: anybody in their buildings until training camp. The desires of 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the individual players are all over the map. Rookie and 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: tenure Vett gonna have different needs and priorities. One more 92 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 1: extreme option that's been discussed if the Union holds firm 93 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: on the report date, is the idea of canceling the 94 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: first week of preseason games to allow for an acclamation 95 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: period and enough actual football practice before players head into 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: live action. Gribbs, With the guys not having been in 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the building at all and not getting back into the 98 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: building until training camp, do you see a preseason game 99 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: being canceled or two. I mean, it's certainly something that 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: they may consider. I mean, I would imagine that they're 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna probably you want to try to preserve that as 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: much as possible. I mean, what about the Hall of 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Fame game that's a week earlier than than the rest 104 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: of those preseason games. I mean those could be tough. 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: I imagine that the league and even the players probably 106 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: want to protect those preseason games as much as possible. 107 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean, those you don't you really don't know what 108 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the fan situation will be, but you want to get 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: those kind of games in. I think that they can 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: be important for just kind of establishing maybe normalcy, a 111 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: rhythm to the schedule, and get guys used to getting 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: ready for these situations. So I imagine that everything is 113 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: being considered, but I would maybe see that as maybe 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: one of your later options on the table of something 115 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: else doesn't work. Before that. Yeah, I really these guys 116 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: are gonna need all the time that they can possibly have. 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I was reading something over the weekend. You know Matt Naggie, 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: the Bears coach. Obviously he's got a little quarterback controversy 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: on his hands. Everybody thinks it's just gonna be Nick 120 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: Fole's job. He keeps reiterating the Trabsky is going to 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: have just the same equal opportunity, And he said, unlike 122 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: previous preseasons and preseason games and training camp where you 123 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: protect your older guys and your veteran he said, I'm 124 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: gonna have to play these guys. I'm have to play 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: him a lot. They might have to play all four 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: preseason games for me to get a read on on 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: who our best option is going into the season. You're 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and you're right, I just I cannot see it unless 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: it is a last ditch option of canceling preseason games 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: this year. If you have a normal off season next year, 131 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: obviously everything goes back on the table and you know, 132 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here with the preseason. But you 133 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: need every minute of every day. You know, in the past, 134 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: practices for training camp GRIBs have been two hours and 135 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: sometimes they ended an hour forty hour forty five. These 136 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: are gonna go two hours for training camp practices. Yeah, 137 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to make the most of your opportunities 138 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: because it's one of those things where you can be 139 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: testing guys, you can be I mean, you you got 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get the most out of these guys being 141 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: on the field because you're you're already making up for 142 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: lost time. You're never gonna get that time back. And 143 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: you're right, there's it's obviously the quarterback decisions get the 144 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: biggest exposure, but you know you've got making decisions on 145 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: every part of the field, and they need to see 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: these guys play, see what kind of shape they're in. 147 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: Uh ever, everything like that. So you're gonna need to 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: to to maximize every bit of time you get with 149 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: these guys. You're gonna need to get them in shape. 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the guys are working out right now, but 151 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: again there's a difference between working out in shape and 152 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: game shape, and that's going to take a process to 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: get to that point. Yeah. I mean that that workout 154 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: time is in the spring is so huge for these 155 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: guys because it's just it's it's as as well conditioned 156 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: and trained as you can be on your own. It's 157 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: so different when you go go into a gym with 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: the guys and are actually playing football. Yeah, no question. 159 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: The final note from Albert brier And is Monday Morning 160 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Quarterback column. Moving the season back to on October start 161 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: is one option I know some teams support. It would 162 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: allow for the NFL to observe how other leagues start 163 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: back up, watch them do things right and wrong, and 164 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: buy more time for all of this stuff. But the 165 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: league office has not been receptive at all to this 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: idea and at this point, changing the dates of the 167 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: season would have to be negotiated with the union as well. 168 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: That said, there's flexibility to move the Super Bowl if needed, 169 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: which creates that option. I don't think anybody wants to 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: move anything when it comes to this timeline regarding the 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: NFL grips. No, but that didn't uh at ESPN report 172 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: that there's some built in flexibility with the schedule with 173 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: the first four weeks, you move those to the last 174 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: four weeks. So it does seem like they can do 175 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: it if they have to. It's just it's it all 176 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: goes back to that discussion that has had about free agency, 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: about the draft, like who knows if it's going to 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: be any better a month from now, so why don't 179 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: we just do this now? You know? And I think 180 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: that might be the prevailing factor, especially with all this 181 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: talk about you know, what about the winner, if IF 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: IF it, if it makes a comeback and more people 183 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: are being infected, you might want to try and get 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: these games in in September when things are better. Then 185 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: wait and and and put yourself in a real bind. 186 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: If if the health condition is kind of worse and 187 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: around the around the world, so that I I can 188 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: understand the reluctance to that. I could see the practicality 189 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and really waiting. Uh, but there is a danger in 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: waiting because it does you're not guaranteed things are going 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: to be better. I mean, that's that's the that that 192 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: that is the one underlying danger in waiting. But you know, 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: perfect scenario where your guaranteed things would be better, obviously 194 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: waiting would be better. I mean, I think that would 195 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: be that that is the perfect scenario, but you you 196 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: can't be guaranteed that I would like to not play 197 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: Thursday night football in the middle of January, you can 198 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: avoid that. I would be a big fan of that, right, 199 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's a unique year, and 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: I think the NBA is gonna really be the test 201 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: case on what it's like to see their sport at 202 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: a different time of year. Uh. And and maybe the 203 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: NFL will have to to to go to that scenario, 204 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like they're gonna try to come up 205 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: with any kind of scenario that that avoids that. Yeah, 206 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: all right, those are some of the topics being discussed. 207 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: We do know on Monday that team's got a manual 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: from the league on the protocols they're gonna have to 209 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: have her training camp. Uh, that's gonna require a deep 210 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: dive and a lot more looking through things before we're 211 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: able to talk and talk about what is and what 212 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: is not gonna be on the table for teams as 213 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: NFL training camps begin to open a little more than 214 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: a month and a half from now, at least slated 215 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: to open a month and a half from now. All right, 216 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: that's a look at what's going on around the league 217 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: as it pertains to training camps opening. We're all gonna 218 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: be mindful and watching in the weeks and days ahead 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: to see what the league does, what our plans are, 220 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: how it affects us, whether we're gonna be traveling not traveling. 221 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: A lot of questions still to be determined between now 222 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and when camps open. Time now for our best of 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and get to know you segments on the US podcast available. 224 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Happy to be joined this week by new Browns linebacker 225 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: coach Jason Tarber. A wealth of knowledge and experience. He's 226 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: been in Oakland with the Raiders, the forty Niners, he's 227 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: been with Stanford the last couple of years at Vanderbilt University. 228 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: So excited to have him on board and coaching this defense. 229 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: He brings a lot of experience, a lot of knowledge 230 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: and excited to get to hear from our new linebacker coach. 231 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Have a watch and have a listen. You're on the 232 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: best podcast available. Happy to be joined by our new 233 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: linebacker coach as we continue to meet a lot of 234 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: the new faces in our front office and in our 235 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff. Jason Tarver joins us and coach. Welcome to Cleveland, 236 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: a little bit cooler than Nashville this time of year. 237 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Where where you were at at Vanderbilt the last couple 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: of years. Yes, so great to be here. Excited coach, 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: Just walk me through what the off season program has 240 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: been for you, been like for you and how how 241 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: much you've had to adapt to what you're usually doing 242 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: this time of year. Well, you know what, it's it's 243 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: been fun because it's finding new ways to to get 244 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: players information. So we're able to record videos, We're able 245 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things and give them 246 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: information and check it. The guys have been They really 247 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: worked and they've competed when when we're in meetings, they're 248 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: they're competing to get the answers right first. So that's 249 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: been been really good. To see. Uh, it took work early, 250 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: meaning putting things together, but but that's what we do 251 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: with coaches. We just watch video and put clips together 252 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: at the grounds of the different places we're going to 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: take from, you know, to add to the coach woods 254 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: the scheme. So it was a lot of like work 255 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: early to make videos. Soon is it tougher when you're 256 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: in a meeting to to make sure your message is 257 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: resonating or how do you how do you get the 258 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: vibes from players when that that something really is clicking 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: with them? Well, when when when you're presenting what some 260 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: of the cool functions of these you know, these online 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: meetings as you can be looking at what they're doing. 262 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, you can see if they're cameras facing the 263 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: ceiling or if they're pretending to take notes or if 264 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: they're really taking note. So, uh, some of that has 265 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: been really good. Our guys have been outstanding in the Leeds. Yeah, 266 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the linebacker position group. They're they're hungry to learn, and 267 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: we we had one miss for a family thing, but 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: we've had almost a cent of tendants. It's been awesome. 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: That's that's a very very good thing, especially all things 270 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: considered in the world right now. Uh, Jason Tarber, our guest, 271 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: the Browns new linebacker coach coach, what what attracted you 272 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: to this position? And a spot on Joe Wood's staff 273 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski staff. Ultimately, well, a lot of things. Um. One, 274 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: what's the opportunity to get back in the NFL. Very 275 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: excited about that. Two was the type of people were 276 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: bringing into the organization. Uh, are honest, They're smart. Um. 277 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Having work with your Woods, he's intelligent and they got 278 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: both men, Kevin and Joe have the ability to focus 279 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: in the moment and stay in the moment to quote 280 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson because we all saw the micro wordy stuff, right, 281 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: but that was one of Phil's favorite things to stay 282 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: in the moment. Both men are very focused, very honest, 283 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: and you're just excited as a player a coach to 284 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: be around their personality and coach. You've got one of 285 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: the younger groups on the team, and I'm just wondering 286 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: what what do you like about that kind of challenge 287 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: going into a group with some guys with the potential 288 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: but not not a lot of guys that have played 289 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: a lot a lot in the NFL so far. Well, 290 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: the first thing you gotta do, and Coach Spancy says 291 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: it really well as working our group and working right now. 292 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: And what's great is is they all come from different 293 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: backgrounds with Stony and Mac and Jacob and I don't 294 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: want to leave anybody out to the other guys are 295 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: all included too, but I'm not going to fleet everybody 296 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: the name at the moment, okay, but they they know 297 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: that they need to learn more and that can be 298 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: very powerful. But they also know who they are and 299 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: we're trying to bring that out. And then their identity. 300 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Every everyone has an identity as a football player and 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: we want them to be them their best selves and 302 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: you need to show that identity every day so we're 303 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: regardless of what's going on. Be you, um, you know, 304 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: like certain guys wear shirts in the meeting all the time. 305 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Other guys don't because the other houses right. But they 306 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: need to beat them because that's how you become your 307 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: best self and anything. So that's one to live your 308 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: identity and then to realize you don't know everything. None 309 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: of us do. We're all constant really learning or else 310 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: we're in trouble. And the group has been really good 311 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: with those two things. So that's what excites and how 312 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: does a player like a like a b. J Goodson 313 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: who comes in, how does how does someone like that 314 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: established leadership during these out of settings right now? Well, 315 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. We start a lot of our our 316 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: meetings with that, like, hey, listen, tell me something good 317 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: that happened over the weekend. Just that in the interaction. 318 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest things that the coaches is 319 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to be around guys get that want to get better 320 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: and not getting better all the time. I mean simple 321 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: questions like that if you hear their personalities. J has 322 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: been wonderful in the meeting as well because he has 323 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: played a little bit more, uh, with a lot of 324 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: different teams, so there's certain things that he's experienced. Uh. 325 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: We talk a lot about what it's forced to look like. 326 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: So I've been fortunate to be around some great ones 327 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: and coach on all three phases in football. And so 328 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: every once in a while, there'll be a power point 329 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: that says with a big picture and picture or fly 330 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: and it says who's this, And then we'll get words 331 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: of wisdom from from players that have coached or or 332 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: coach doomas coach that's with us in the linebacker room, 333 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: and and those lessons can be very valuable in this 334 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: setting because we're not all of them. So we work 335 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: on we work on a few of those every week 336 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: and start discussions and and talk about what it's going 337 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: to be like in the middle of the fourth quarter 338 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: in that type game in the NFL. This is what 339 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: it feels like, so that they can remember and pull 340 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: back on that when it does get get there, because 341 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be animal. Coach. You have a young linebacker room, uh, 342 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: and two guys last year, one that played a lot 343 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: and one that came on towards the end of the 344 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: year in si Ony Taki Taki and obviously Mack Wilson. UM. 345 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people will tell you in the league 346 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: the greatest improvement is from year one to year two, 347 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: and a young player. These guys have to improve with 348 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, a new scheme, and have to 349 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: do it virtually right now. UM, one of the biggest challenges, 350 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: what have you talked to them about and what are 351 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: your expectations in those two from year one two year two. Well, 352 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: I think for all of us, there's three things. Number 353 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: one right now, with what's going on in the world, 354 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: and in the country is our safety, safety for our 355 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: family or safety for ourselves. And we talked about that 356 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: all the time with the guys and they've been great 357 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: about that. Two is coming into the scheme this off season. 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: We really got to own the scheme. What that means 359 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: is it's not just knowing, hey, we're gonna do you know, 360 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: cover three, cover four, blits. Everybody does some of that, 361 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: but it's really owning it. It's understanding the ins and 362 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: out to what words we have to say to help 363 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: the dbs and the linebackers, knowing where we fit. What's 364 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: awesome about being a linebacker is how it got its name. 365 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: You're backed off the line, you're behind the line and 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: in front of the dbs, and that's the best place 367 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: that you're in the middle of. All of it is great. 368 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: And they can only do two things. They can run 369 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: or they can pass. Now our cares are both right, 370 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: so we're gonna eyes right. But that's what's great about 371 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: being a linebackers. We're in the middle of So we 372 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: need to own that scheme. Our young man had done 373 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: a really good job of studying it. Quizzing each other. 374 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: We have different ways the quiz name so that's one, 375 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: and then two is getting in shape, and that's a 376 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: challenge in this environment. Our guys have done a very 377 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: good job so far of doing drills and and things 378 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: that were required to and I think that will continue. Um, 379 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: but that's different because it's on your own. You're used 380 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: to being around people. So specifically, to answer your question 381 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: about the two young men that are working between the 382 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: first and their second year, that's what you miss, is 383 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: that being around your teammate in that time, because it 384 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: really is the first off season and there's more time 385 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL off season on your own than there 386 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: is when you're going through college. Obviously, classes and things 387 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: you gotta do, so that's one of the learning curves. 388 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: But we speak on that a lot. And how different 389 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: do you expect it to be, at least early on 390 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: when you finally get these guys back on the field 391 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: but they hadn't done it in the spring. I mean, 392 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: how how different could that be for you than what 393 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you've usually done in the years past. Well, I think 394 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: I think it's the same being this way. Here's what 395 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean by that. The process is still going to 396 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: be the same, but you've gotta be able to take 397 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: it from the classroom out to the field and the 398 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: walkthroughs where you practice communication with your teammates so we 399 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: can get all eleven defensive guys flying around and attacking 400 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: the ball and the different things that we want to 401 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: have as our identity and show as our identity. We've 402 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: still got to start that way. We've still gotta line 403 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: up and talk to each other and get ready to play. 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: So the only thing is is you didn't do that 405 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: in the offseason together. You've simulated it, but you haven't 406 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: done it as much. So it's checking that first and 407 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: making sure that we can function together. And we've asked 408 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people this, what what about this last 409 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: few months has made you maybe appreciate parts of coaching 410 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: that you never appreciated before, or parts of the game 411 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: that that you maybe didn't appreciate as much now that 412 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: you've been in this situation. Uh, there's been a long answer. 413 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: I've learned so much about myself having an education background 414 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and teach you for parents and siblings and everything. Uh. 415 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: We some of the meetings are recorded, so and try 416 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: on the perfectionists and trying to make them perfect. And 417 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: the good part about that is you can see yourself 418 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: grow as a coach. You can you can really get 419 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: better at making it concise so the guys can understand it. 420 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: That's been a challenge and that's been fun to do. 421 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: Uh tuners doing it from home, so you'll be in 422 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: the middle of meetings like this. I'm sur probably my 423 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: boys haven't run around behind us yet and started yelling 424 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: stuff at me. Um. But there's more things going on, 425 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, And it's been cool as a football coach 426 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: have two little boys to be able to coach them 427 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: as well. Sometimes that gets lost, especially in the first 428 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: year offseason because your first year moving into somewhere. Uh, 429 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: there's just more things that go on, right, and doing 430 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: that from home this year was unique and pretty cool. 431 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: More time with the family, more time to perfect how 432 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: how quickly and how directly we can coach. That's been 433 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: that's been exciting and that's been helpful. Jason Tarver, the 434 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: Browns new linebacker coach, our guest here on the Best 435 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: podcast Available Coach to follow that up, what was the 436 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: draft process like, uh, from one on one in person 437 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: interviews not happening. I mean essentially we were all together 438 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine and that was it. So what 439 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: was the draft process, like and talk about that draft 440 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: weekend essentially and where you guys were all at working 441 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: remotely with a lot of help from some great I 442 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: T people in our department. Oh hey, yeah, I did. 443 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: The I T did a great job setting everything up. 444 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's been great. I'm on my stuff that 445 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: they set up for me at a home, sending me 446 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: different cables to have lots of screens. Uh, you know, 447 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of it was really cool is having 448 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: a family around, and of course the broadcast showed that, 449 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: but you know, when when you do it was cool 450 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: to have the family kind of come behind and go 451 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: what's going on. So that was good process wise, very more. 452 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: We well, we did a good job as as an 453 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: organization of watching video on our own and then getting 454 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: together talking about it. That was really good. It spent 455 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: a little more time with the young men on zoom 456 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: calls and on calling than than because you couldn't visit 457 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: the prod so that was the biggest difference. I got 458 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: to know a lot of our guys, including Jacob and 459 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Solomon or two young linebackers through that process, both of 460 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: whom were very excited about. So that was actually really good. 461 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: You could really get to know some of the some 462 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: of the young men in the draft and rooting for 463 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: the ones that that we weren't able to get too 464 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: because you only get one out of every thirty two. 465 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you get a couple of extra picks, and 466 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: we did a good job of doing that. So that 467 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: part was unique getting to know him through Zoom kind 468 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: of like this getting to know him just by talking um. 469 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: But I do like as a coach going to PRODS 470 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: because you get to see them in their environment. So 471 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: that was the part that we missed. What's what's it 472 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: been like for the defensive coaching staff coming together throughout 473 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: that throughout this. I know you were one of Joe's 474 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: earlier hires in the process, but what, well, how have 475 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: you guys kind of come together as a staff during 476 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: these times. Well, I think both Joe again, both Joe 477 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: and Kevin picked off of our personality attacks, picking uh, 478 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: knowing what they wanted around to surround themselves with as 479 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: as both as people and as coaches. That's been fun too, 480 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: because the early morning Zoom meeting sometimes you maybe aren't 481 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: doing as much scheme. It's just the same thing to 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: start and start talking because you're used to being in 483 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: a room with people and then now you're not. So 484 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: sometimes it's inside jokes or or sometimes it's going straight 485 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: from ball um. It's been good though a lot of 486 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: us had none of each other but hadn't necessarily worked together. 487 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: So and we did get a lot of time in 488 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the home office right before it broke as a defensive staff, 489 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: and we we've been able to go through both our 490 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: schemes a couple of times already all the way through, 491 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: so one time in the facility and then another time 492 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: on zoom meetings as we're installing it with the players 493 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: and what do you like most about his scheme and 494 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: specifically with what the linebackers role is within that scheme, 495 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: everybody gets to do everything. It is. It is all 496 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: about the football. It is attacking. It is. We'll line 497 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: up and look the same and be able to do 498 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: different things out of the same looks via that pressure 499 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: or zone or man or whatever Coach Woods wants to call. 500 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: So it can it can be multiple but still simple 501 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: and that's exciting. So it plays fast for the front seven. 502 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: There are certain things that you have to be able 503 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: to deal with in each coverage, just like any defense, 504 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: but this defense and coach Woods in particular. There's a 505 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: really good job of players and coaches understanding those issues 506 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: and being able to play fast within them because every 507 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: defense has a weakness and every defense has a strength. 508 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: But Joe teaches it really well, so you can when 509 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: you master this thing, it plays fast, all right. So 510 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: I've seen a few videos of you as a motivator. Um, 511 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: not every coach can motivate. And there's a happy medium 512 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: between motivating teaching and yelling at a guy because he 513 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: did the wrong thing. I know this. I was a 514 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: former I played football, but I got plenty of yelled 515 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: at by coaches growing up. Uh what Uh? What is 516 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: that happy medium when it comes to that. Because a 517 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: lot of things I've read about you and seeing your 518 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: quite the motivator behind the scenes, well one, I appreciate 519 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: that too. I don't know where you got all those videos, 520 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: but it's it's this. It's the same thing we're talking 521 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: about with identity. It's being yourself every day. Uh. I 522 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: love coming to work. I love what I do. I 523 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: love the challenge of helping people worked together to do 524 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: something they could not do on their own. That's why 525 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: I got it's so into this football is teaching with 526 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: a drunt one. It is exciting, but you gotta get 527 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: it done and you've got to communicate sometimes really quickly. 528 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Uh So motivation just comes from me. I'm not I'm 529 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: I have high energy because that's what the guys deserve. 530 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna and I'm gonna be the same 531 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: every day. It's something that I'm gonna pride myself on 532 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: is and we want to be that too. We want 533 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: to be the same every day. We want shore identity 534 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: every day. So I'm not as much of a yeller. Really, 535 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: I only really yell if somebody's gonna hurt themselves or 536 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: they're not in their own mind. You know. It's if 537 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: you're out in your own mind, like something's wrong, So 538 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: then you gotta find out what's wrong and fix it, 539 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: and you can fix it fast. But more than that, 540 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: it's it's teaching with the adrenaline. It's excitement, but it's 541 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: getting the point across so that we can learn from 542 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: what happened, because you're gonna make mistakes. Everybody does. But 543 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: how quickly can you learn? Alright? One final one here, coach, 544 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: and we'll get you out of here. We appreciate new 545 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Brown's linebacker coach Jason Tarver's spending a few minutes with 546 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: us today on the best podcast available. Bill Walsh, Steve 547 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: mary Ucci, Mike Singletary, Derek Mason, Bob Toledo, David Shot 548 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: just to name a few, Just to name a few 549 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: of the coaches that that you've been blessed enough to 550 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: work with. What's the best piece of advice you've gotten 551 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: in terms of working from those guys? Oh wow, you 552 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: could go down You can go down the list. Um. 553 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Coach Walsh did a nice job of of bringing a 554 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: twenty four year old into the building and making sure 555 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that every Friday checking on and really asking park questions, 556 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: what did you learn this week? Why? What are you thinking? 557 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: Did you get this done? He put the playbook down 558 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: and said, you know, you've got a week memorize this. 559 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: And it was the West Coast offense playbook that's famous now, 560 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: right that was an offensive that time. So he came 561 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: in to the this will be a quick story. It's 562 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: a good one. He came in Friday and said, you know, 563 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: what's the longest play? And I rattled it all off 564 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: and and he kind of looked at me funny, and 565 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: I said, what's the next question, because no we ever 566 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: got the first one right. Well, he told me to 567 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: read the book. So there are some things like that. 568 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Train Coach Mary was wonderful with how just how to 569 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: run a team meeting and treat people, treat people from 570 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: the media to everything, be yourself and treat them with respect. 571 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: That's what I learned from good You asked about motivation 572 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: by secretary was outstanding. Um, Dave Shaw. We want to 573 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: talk about an amazing person that's the same every day. 574 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: That's that's him. I could keep going if I left 575 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: you out. I'm sorry, coaches, but that's our job of 576 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: a coach is to get better every day and take 577 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: something from everybody. So as much as I could learn 578 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: in any of those situations, that's what I was doing 579 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: and hopefully we can translate that to our to our 580 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: young men. Coach couldn't say it any better. Appreciate the time, 581 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: and we wish you all the best. Safe travel on 582 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: on the move to Cleveland. Can't wait to see you 583 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: up here full time, can't wait to be in the 584 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: building again, and can't wait to get these guys on 585 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: the field and let's get the season go and be 586 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: safe and continued success. Sir, thank you for the time today. 587 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. I was good talking to you guys, and 588 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: we're excited to move up there to get started. Thanks 589 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: to Jason Tarb, new Browns linebacker coach, for a few 590 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: minutes of his time, Gribble takeaways from Coach Tarbor and 591 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: his interview with us on the best podcast available. Let's 592 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: say he's he's a passionate guy, and I bet I'd 593 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: love to get some footage of some of those meetings 594 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: that he's had to conduct via zoom. But you know, 595 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: the position, coaches, he's got one of the biggest challenges 596 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: right now. It's a young room. Uh and then your 597 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: one veteran is a new guy on the team and 598 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: everyone's learning a new scheme anyway, So uh, he I 599 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: like his philosophy and what he's trying to get these 600 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: guys ready for. But they're they're gonna be under the 601 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: microscope the moment they get into Barria and ready for 602 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: training camp, and and we'll have to I'll focus will 603 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: be on them because one, I think all three positions 604 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: are up for grabs at those linebacker spots. We think 605 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: Mac Wilson's gonna figger factor in somewhere, just a matter 606 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: of where he where he's best going to line up 607 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, and does Phillips have a big 608 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: impact right off the get go or does he take 609 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to develop? You know, I 610 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: mean it. Taki Taki was on his way last year 611 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: to to having an impact away and then he got hurt. 612 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: And and that goes back to what we talked about 613 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast. You have to worry about guys, 614 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: and hopefully everybody comes to camp in shape and ready 615 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: to go. And you know, it takes one injury to 616 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: really put you behind the eight ball. And uh, it 617 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how that whole room you know, 618 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: comes together here. Uh. I do like him. I think 619 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: he fits right in with the coaching staff and the 620 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: other coaches though everybody, everybody's on the same page. And 621 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I know we say it and it's a broken record 622 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: and we say it every week, but it's true. You 623 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: list into him and that everybody fits right in line 624 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: with what the top top half of the ownership group, 625 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: the GM and the coach are all about. Yeah, and 626 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: I like the Tarver's got. He's got coordinator experience, which 627 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: is always important. And I think there's a good level 628 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: of understanding when you go from being a coordinator position coach, 629 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to implementing a new system. I 630 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: think that that that experience will will definitely be important 631 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: as the season comes comes closer. Yeah, no question about it. 632 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate his time and again you can check out 633 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: his interview if you missed any part of it. Same 634 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: with Glenn Cook from last week. Are you Vice President 635 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: a player personnel? You can log on Cleveland Browns dot 636 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: com or wherever you get your podcast. Also watch it 637 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: on the Brown's YouTube channel YouTube dot dot com. Slash 638 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Brown's all right, no peeking. I put out the rules. 639 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: I put them out and everybody is adhered to it, 640 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: which is great. Joe Thomas, our good friend, former Brown 641 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: player Brown's Great, listed his top five players he's played 642 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: with during his time here, Gribbs, can you guess them 643 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: from five to one? So I gotta go five to one? Okay, 644 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: that's tough, all right? I mean all right, you want 645 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: to just do the five and then I'll ask you. Okay, uh, 646 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: my first one I think is a lock, and that 647 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: will be Alex Mack correct, correct, Okay, I mean the 648 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: way he's talked about Alex Mack anytime you talk, I 649 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: mean immediate respect. They're good friends everything. I think that 650 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: was an easy one. Secondly, I will go with Myles Garrett. Yes, 651 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: I think very short of my time together, but clearly 652 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: it was very impressed with him. Three, let's go with 653 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden. Not on the list, okay. And that one 654 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: that I got wrong too, because when I first saw 655 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: the article, I out loud. I said to myself, all right, 656 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: it's gotta be blah blah blah blah blah. And then 657 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: I went and looked, and no, Joe had not one 658 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: of the five. What about Josh Cribs. Josh Cribbs is 659 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: on that list, my friend. Here's the here, here's the 660 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: controversial one. Josh Gordon. No, not Josh No. Okay, So 661 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you two more. 662 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: Uh well, if I give you one, then okay, all right? 663 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: Then Phil Dawson, yes, okay, that's one, and then the 664 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: other one would be on the offensive side of the football, okay. 665 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: Joel Betonio. No, not Joel Betonio, but offensive lineman Eric Steinbach. 666 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: Good guess, and a good pull by you. No, Mitchell Schwartz. Yeah, yeah, 667 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: that's so he had Dawson five cribs for Shorts, three, 668 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett to and Alex mac one. You got the 669 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: first two right off the bat, which those those are 670 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: the easy ones. Yeah, I can't really I forgot about Mitchell. 671 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: But Mitchell, I mean, his his career really took off 672 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs to starting to get the acclaim that 673 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: he was getting. I think that from Joe's perspective, I 674 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: think he was maybe not getting the appreciation they probably 675 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: should have during that time. But clearly even nationally, Mitchell 676 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: Swartz was started really getting recognized. With Kansas City, yes, 677 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: no question about it. Unfortunately, just another regime change. He 678 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: was the victim of Mitchell Shorts and so he left 679 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: and went on to greener pastures and he's got himself 680 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring, which is a good thing. Is 681 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: he really is a good guy behind the scenes. So, 682 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean a little controversy between Alex mc and Miles 683 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: Garrett though, I mean I don't know if maybe if 684 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: Joe had a couple more years of Miles that might 685 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: be number one, might have been number one. Yeah, I 686 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: think technically they only practiced against each other like once. Yeah, 687 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: and in terms of full go reps that I think 688 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: they only had one practice. Yeah. Indeed, Alex mac Well 689 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: thought of Joe Thomas, There's no question about that. But 690 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: two special teamers, and Phil Dawson and Josh Cribs making 691 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: that list as well. Well. Cribs. Crips played a good 692 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: amount offense with with Joe Thomas, so he got to 693 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: see him on on the offensive side as well. A wildcat, 694 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: actually a lot of wildcats and some wide receiver. I mean, 695 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: he he got, he got the full dose of Josh Kurtz. 696 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: I thought about Phil Dawson earlier. I just I was 697 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: wondering if he was going to mix it up. I 698 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: was I was gonna pull deep in my bag. I 699 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: was gonna go to maybe a T. J. Ward where 700 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: we gonna get a to call Jackson in there. I 701 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: like the Hayden pull. The Hayden pulls a great guest 702 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: and a couple other people. But I asked that question too. 703 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: They said, Joe Hayden Um and a Steinbach just because 704 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: it's just because the tackles and corners live in different worlds, 705 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: I think that, I mean, they're opposite sides of the 706 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: practice field. You don't go up against each other. I mean, 707 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: you don't get the first hand, you know. And we've 708 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: seen Joe Thomas kicks and field goals, so maybe he 709 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: appreciates Phil Dawson a little bit more, even though they 710 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: didn't spend a ton of time of practices either, but 711 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: he did block on field goals, so maybe that's why 712 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: he got to work with him closely. Yeah, no question. 713 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Nice a little little, nice little top five list from 714 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: our own Joe Thomas. All right, that's gonna wrap up 715 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: episode thirty of the Best Podcast Available. Thanks to Brown's 716 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: linebacker coach Jason Tarber. Thanks to Jeff McDaniel for all 717 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: of his hard work behind the scenes, as well as 718 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Brown's PR guru Mike and Aarella for all of his 719 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: harder work in lining up Coach Tarbor and all of 720 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: our guests weekend and week out. The whole PR department 721 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: does an outstanding job helping us out with that. Make 722 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: sure you log on to Cleveland Browns dot com or 723 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, like and subscribe today to 724 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: the Best podcast Available. You can also check us out 725 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube, as I mentioned earlier, YouTube dot Com, Slash 726 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: Browns Brander Gribble. I'm Jason Gibbs. We're back with you 727 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: on Thursday for another edition of the Best podcast Available. 728 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching and thanks for listening to the best 729 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: podcast available.