WEBVTT - #391 Packers Unscripted: He's back 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:20.840 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.840 I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.440 colleague West Hodkowits were coming to here from our studios 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.160 at lambeau Field and West New Packers head coach Matt 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.199 Lafleur is in the process of putting together his coaching 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.240 staff for the nineteen season. I know there are some 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.319 news and names and rumors and things floating around out 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.480 there with regards to offensive coordinator and special teams coordinator. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.680 Nothing in that regard has been officially announced by the Packers, 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.440 so we're gonna have to save those conversations for another show. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.840 But we do know that it is official. Mike Petton 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.440 will be back as defensive coordinator for Mat la Fleur. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.760 It will be Petton's second season as defensive coordinator. And 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.240 I think you and I and certainly anybody following this 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.880 sensed that if the Packers went with an offensive minded 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.000 head coach, so to speak, that the possibility of pett 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.840 And staying to run this defense was pretty strong. And 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.800 that is how this has worked out. Yeah, I don't 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.960 want to call it a no brainer, but I just 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.039 think you know, the package. This is gonna be a 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.560 big offseason of change. You're gonna see it in multiple 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.679 phases and multiple different positions. If there was one silver 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.240 lining to what was kind of a difficult season for them, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.200 I felt it was pett And I felt it was 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.840 the way that that defense performed in the face of injuries, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.240 in the way he was able to make playmakers emerge 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.320 in that defense at times in which if you looked 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.800 at on paper you would say there weren't enough of 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.960 them due to injuries and some other things. So, uh, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.800 the thing that stood out to me the most in 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.680 the decision to do this is that if you go 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.560 back and look at it, um one of the things 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.960 that stood out to me as soon as Matt la 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.040 Floor was named the head coach of the Packers, you 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.960 look at Tennessee in the fact that Marcus Mariota now 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.760 is onto I believe is this his fourth or fifth 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.440 offensive coordinator now in his time in the NFL. You 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.680 want to be able to if things, if you like 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.960 what you're seeing, if the product is what it is, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.560 you want to be able to have consistency there. And 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.600 in the Fleur's case a little bit different because he 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.640 was going up and do a bigger job. But in 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.840 the Packers case, I just think that there was something 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.160 to be said for having a name, having a face, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.160 and having a vision, so you're not completely overhauling the 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.400 whole grand scheme of things. Mike Petton's return allows you 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.480 to do that. I'll be honest with you, Mike, seeing 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.320 what they were able to do, I don't care about 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.440 total defense. I don't care about the sacks, even though 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.640 there was a bunch of them last year. The number 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.920 one thing that sold me on Mike pett and his 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.679 scheme last season was the fact that you didn't see 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.560 them having to take time otes for twelve min on 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.560 the field. You didn't see them gag getting gash for 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.200 big plays because of community cation breakdowns. The ability of 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.320 Petton to teach his scheme and as he said from 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.280 the beginning, keep it likable and learnable, I think is 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.200 one of the biggest credits he can have. Yes, there 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.320 weren't enough takeaways, that's something they want to change in 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.280 But the fact that they didn't have those huge breakdowns 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.919 at a lot of times you see not just to hear, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.920 but I mean anywhere in the NFL when you have 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.680 a ton of injuries I think speaks to Petton. I 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.000 think it speaks to his program, and it makes it 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.560 deserving for him to get a second shot here. Yeah, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.160 I I certainly want to see Mike Petton try to 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.520 continue and perhaps finish what he started here, which I 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.320 think is a climb, is a rise of the Packers defense, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.680 hopefully up into the top half, if not the top 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.320 third of the league. Obviously, there's there was a long 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.720 way to go when the day he walked in the door. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.760 But I am with you, I was going to say 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.200 exactly the same thing. If there's one thing to me 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.120 that I noticed with this defense that I think bodes 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:59.960 really well moving forward is the lack of the communication breakdowns, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.200 just as you put it, Because when I look back 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.240 at the season, I remember late in the year the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.320 game against the New York Jets, there was a mix 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.880 up in coverage and Robbie Anderson's wide open down the 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.680 field for a forty yard touched out. But I remember 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.640 that play because it was one of the only times 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.039 that happened all season long, and in past years, we 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.279 just we saw that happen too often. And the fact 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.640 that with the number of young players that the Packers 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.000 have on defense, and it was a new system being 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.200 brought in, and we actually saw a decrease in those 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.640 communication issues and whatnot. I think that really speaks to 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.080 what Petton was able to accomplish. Now, obviously you hope 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.120 for better health, you hope for better continuity just in 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.680 terms of who's out there playing every week. And Dom 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.479 Caper's dealt with some of those same challenges over a 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.240 number of years. But with the improvements that we saw 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.320 and the number of young players that you don't you 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.279 really don't want to have to throw a whole another 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.760 defensive system at them again right away. I think this, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.720 this makes the most sense for the Packers and pett 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.120 And earned the opportunity to try to see this through 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.279 and see if he can continue that climb up the rankings. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.200 During the final locker room the Packers had about two 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.200 weeks ago, now, I was talking with Alexander about this 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.640 and about then the young nucleus and and what he 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.359 sees in this team. And one of the things that 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.359 he said is, you know, they get pelted constantly with 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.920 the questions about turnovers and takeaways and there just wasn't 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.320 enough of them this past year. But he said, you 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.840 know is these guys get more comfortable in the back end, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.600 the pass rushers, you'll get a little bit more pressure. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.120 The possibilities are there for this defense to take the 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.359 ball away when you when you can disrupt the quarterback 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.040 a little bit, they have the ball hawks there in 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.440 place to be able to do it. I think the 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.120 issue for the Packers this season, in addition to inconsistency 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.800 I'm not going to paint at all, is just well, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.680 there are just too many injuries. I mean, you still 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.160 need to work through it, but you do look at 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.599 what that final i R look like at the end 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.840 of the year, and and again it's always a big 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:57.760 if because you're not going to keep everybody healthy. But 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.760 when you lose you're starting three defensive linemen, you lose 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.120 Kevin King, you deal with some of the injuries they've 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.560 had to deal with, the multiple positions, that's what puts 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.839 you in these positions where you're trying to stem the tide, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.680 so to speak. So I really do believe. I mean, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.520 if you you know, you saw Kyler Fackler breakout, you 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.280 saw Kenny Clarke have a phenomenal season before he has 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:24.719 ended prematurely. There is playmakers there are playmakers in this defense. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.280 If you can keep enough of them healthy. Along with 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.360 the system of defense that Penton is teaching, I think 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.440 there's a really good reason to believe that this cannot 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.120 I'm not going to put it out there's top ten 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.400 defense anymore, but this can be one of the biggest 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.720 disrupting units in the NFL. Well. And there'll be an 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.880 opportunity whether you're talking free agency or the draft. As 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.159 we talked about three picks in the top forty five 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.760 of the draft. We'll see what happens in free agency. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.560 There's an opportunity to add another playmaker too to this 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.880 to this defense. And I'll go back to something that 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.240 I talked about on this show many times, you and I. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.040 You and I discussed it a lot. I think we 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.760 saw the the tip of the iceberg, so to speak, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.560 as to what this Packers defense can be with Mike 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.160 Petton as the coordinator and his system and his scheme. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.840 When Jayra Alexander and Kevin King where your two corners, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.440 your your two top cover corners on the field at 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.600 the same time. Now, that just didn't happen enough because 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.000 King only played whatever it was, six or seven games, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.960 and even a couple of games he played was when 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.600 Alexander was missing, so they were really only on the 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.480 field together, I think, for four games out of sixteen, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.320 which is is way too few, obviously, but in those moments, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.880 I mean the first the first half, first three quarters 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.440 Week two against the Minnesota Vikings and and all the 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.200 the weapons, you know, Dalvin Cook and Adam Thieland and 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.800 Stefon Diggs and Kirk Cousins in their new quarterback and 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.680 everything that they brought to lambeau Field that day. They 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.520 didn't start rolling until the fourth quarter when King was 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.680 out in The Packers were kind of scrambling a little 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.240 bit defensively to make up for it. The first half 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.840 in Los Angeles against that Rams offense, when King and 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.520 Alexander were on the field together to help cover those 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.920 wide receivers, that was some of the best defense we 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.680 saw from the Packers all season long. I think I 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.760 think that's the starting point, so to speak, in terms 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.000 of the personnel. If those two guys are out there, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.400 and then you get those other guys healthy, you know, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.960 you're Daniels and you're Kenny Clark, and and you know, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.720 Facral continues to do what he's doing. I think there's 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.080 a lot of possibilities here with some more continued upgrades 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.920 and personnel, whether it be through free agency or the draft. Yeah, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.880 and and the other thing that stands out to me too, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.240 you know, we don't want ever, you know, look at 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.679 trying to project what a lineup is going to be, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.760 because as we see, you know, that can change very quickly. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.880 And it's I think, but the one, the one, the 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.959 heart was in the right place this season though, when 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 you look at how they had stocked their cornerbacks, how 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.040 they had stocked their safeties, even as some regards how 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.320 they had stocked the defensive line. I bring it up 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.480 constantly that, you know, Dean Lowry and Kyler Facral weren't 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.640 playing very much that the first month of the season. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.480 They had to basically be every down players. Down the stretch, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.719 they have some decisions to with how they want to 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.800 handle their outside pass rush, the biggest one of those 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.680 being Clay Matthews being an unrestricted free agent. You got 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.120 to settle that, you got to figure out what the 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.520 future is there. And I've brought it up a numerous 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.400 amount of times now. I think one guy that doesn't 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.000 get enough credit for how things did play out was 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.839 bishod b when you look at the injury that he had. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.200 I even threw ma Alter during one of our final shows. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.960 Is come back of the Year candidate Because of the 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.000 injury he had and to come back the way he 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.520 did and play on a short schedule, I think it 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.360 said a lot about him. And honestly, I learned a 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.520 lot about his versatility. I didn't know he could play, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.320 you know, slot cornerback. I think in a perfect world, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.640 do you want him on the boundary, But he's versatile 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.559 enough that he basically can play all six spots in 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.719 the secondary if you need him to. Again, another unrestricted 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.680 free agent, dominoes have to fall there. But you know, 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.720 seeing a guy like that back to in the equation, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.560 I think really could go a long way for a 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.959 secondary that has a lot of potential when you can 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.320 get everybody on the field, at least most of them 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.000 at the same time. Yeah. And I don't mean to 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.319 discount Breland when I focus so much on Alexander and King, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.000 but they're the ones in a contract, yeah, exactly. And 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.840 and Breland is a is an unrestricted free agent, and 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.400 we'll see what happens there. But I'm gonna make a 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.679 baseball analogy for you here, West, because you know, you 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.679 look at you look at a baseball team heading into 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.360 a new season, you're looking at that starting rotation, right 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.360 if you've got if you've got a couple of really 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.960 solid starting pitchers, there's a big difference between those guys 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.360 being say you're two and three starting pitchers, versus if 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.840 they're you're three and four. You know, in terms in 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.840 terms of the order. I kind of look at Breland 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.960 in the same way, in the sense that when you 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.320 had Alexander and King and Bashad, Breland was like your 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.120 number three corner Wow, Like what a group you have. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.000 But you take one of those three out of the equation, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.080 and the and the rotation changes and everybody gets pushed 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.440 up into a into another role, then all of a sudden, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.840 it doesn't look quite as good as it did before. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.040 So I think it's you know, I think King and 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.080 Alexander are the starting points at cornerback, and then you 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.160 build the depth, whether that's you know, Josh Jackson hopefully 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.040 takes a leap forward in his second year, Maybe Bashad 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.160 Brelan comes back. We'll see what the draft and free 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.520 agency have in store. Tremont Williams is under contract for 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.720 another year, and we know he can play anywhere as well, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.199 So a lot of possibilities here and and a lot 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.880 of time to get it figured. Yeah, and Tony Brown 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.320 ended up playing quite a bit to the undrafted rookie 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.400 out of Alabama. So probably no position I think on 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.600 the roster that has as much returning players probably has 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.080 more intrigue right now than cornerback because it really is 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.800 going to be up to Brian good Kunz and obviously 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.360 Matt Lafleur and and Mike Petton to figure out what 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.360 they need in what they want to bring in this offseason, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.559 because there's a lot of guys there. But again, as 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.680 we've learned, when you're playing, especially the way that that 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.600 Petton plays with as many six defensive backpackages with that 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.920 hybrid linebacker role, you have to have guys there, and 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.560 and that's gonna be a big thing making sure that 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.600 they can keep the covered stocked. Yeah. Well, not to 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.080 get too far off track, but we saw the Los 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.440 Angeles Chargers just a week ago win a playoff game 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.400 playing basically seven defensive backs as a package for pretty 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.560 much the entire game against Baltimore. And lam our Jackson 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.719 as the mobile quarterback. So you just you'd never know 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.600 where this game is going to go and what you're 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.960 going to be called on to do from a schematic standpoint, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.800 and and the Packers have to build their depth to 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.760 be able to respond. And keep in mind too, Mike, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.720 I mean the Packers open this season with a seven 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.679 defensive backpackage against the Bears. I mean that's almost their 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.000 base defense. It caught us all, caught me by surprise 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.040 that they ended up going that way. So, yeah, if 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.560 you have the bodies there, Mike Patton said, he's not 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.440 afraid to go a little light if it means that 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.640 it's going to you know, work to the best of 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.560 the Packers game plan. Yeah. 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They put you in the 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.000 zone we get, we get a lot more of the 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.360 the West hot analogies to youth sports and everything. When 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.600 you got the noise camper. Absolutely absolutely, we gotta work 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.440 on that. That's the big goal. That's the insider inbox 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:45.560 slash Packers unscripted goal for noise canceling headphones. We'll be 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.160 on that with with our our relationship with bows um 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.480 NFL Playoffs West, it is down to the final four. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.000 I know it's not always talking about in those terms, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.600 but conference championship games coming up this weekend and this 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.360 past weekend the divisional round, not a lot of down 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.920 to the wire drama. Really. Only the last game of 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.240 the four, the Eagles against the Saints, was the one 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.640 that came right down to the end. But these four teams, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.440 Rams and Saints, Patriots and Chiefs all very impressive in 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.400 their own right last weekend. And I think in a 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.080 lot of ways, and it doesn't always work out this way, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.720 in fact, it often doesn't, but I think in a 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.760 lot of ways, if you had if you had pulled 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.920 the vast majority of NFL fans, like right after Halloween, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.600 about the midway point of season, and said, Okay, who 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.240 do you think are the four teams that are gonna 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.520 be the last four standing on championship weekend playing for 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.200 those conference titles, I think these four would have gotten 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.880 the most votes. And you know, they've held up, They've 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.240 done it over the long haul. They put together impressive 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.040 performances in the divisional round, and here they are. You 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.040 know what I like about this? I'm glad you used 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.200 the final four analogy because this year in particular does 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.240 remind me a lot of an n c A tournament 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.280 where you've had every once in a while you get 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.120 the one in two needs that just make the run. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.680 And that's why I love the playoffs, because everyone goes 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.000 over the top about well, if the six and five win, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.280 does that mean there's no advantage to the bodies? No, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.320 I mean, I think all four of these teams proved 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.280 last week what the advantage is with having that that 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.120 week off and then having the home field advantage. But 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.360 much like the n c A tournament, each all these 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.560 four teams brings something different to the table. Now, the 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.240 common thread between most of them is offense, and a 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.680 lot of it. I think it's gonna be really exciting 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.040 to watch the you know, the Rams play on that 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.640 fast track, and I believe, I believe this is the 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.520 first time that the top four scoring offenses in the 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.200 league have all advanced to this stage as the last 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.640 four teams standing. So it's interesting from that standard. And 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.520 then you look at the Rams and Chiefs. I mean, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.040 they gave up a ton of yards this year too, defensively, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.240 so seeing how a team like the Saints that's that's 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.600 very that's more balanced, probably the most balanced out of 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.480 all these teams in the playoffs right now. They also 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.000 had to play the most knockdown, drag out game of 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.240 last week, having to kind of hold their breath there 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.560 until the final moments against the Eagles. So seeing if 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.880 they can prevail against that that enigma that is the 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.880 Rams offense is going to be interesting. And then honestly, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.160 let's look at the Kansas City in New England. I mean, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.080 they're gonna say I wrote about this an inbox. They're 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.120 gonna talk about Patrick Mahomes. They're going to talk about, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.120 you know, the old war horse, and and Tom Brady. Yeah, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.440 the potential passing of the torch and all that. We're 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.400 gonna hear about that certainly all week long. Realistically, I 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.360 think you remember you always do your like five team 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.160 out performances to watch and those kind of matchups. I 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.040 think there's only one in this game. I think it's 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.480 whether or not Kansas City can stop New England's offense. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:34.920 I think that's as I think it goes as far 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.240 as that. The way New England's offense took the field 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.360 on Sunday against the Chargers, a Chargers defense that had 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.760 put up some you know, some really really good outings, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.120 especially with what they did against Baltimore and Lamar Jackson 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.480 for the first three plus quarters in that opening round game. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.240 For New England to take the field against the Chargers 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.040 and just right down the field four straight times, four touchdowns, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.880 they had twenty eight points on the board before you 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.160 can blink, it was it was just like, Wow, that 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.640 sucked too. I mean, excuse my language, but I was like, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.320 I really wanted that to be. I know, I wanted 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.119 I wanted that to be. I wanted that to be 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.000 a good game as well. And we had talked about 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.399 kind of pulling a little bit for Philip Rivers to 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:11.920 see if he could get to a super Bowl for 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.320 the first time and just give me some drama, you know, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.159 none that the Patriots just hum boy. They just went 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.480 out and steamrolled them. But much like what happened with 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.879 that game between New Orleans and Philadelphia the first time around, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.320 you saw the adjustments the Eagles made in that second 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.200 matchup and what they were able to do to keep 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.840 that thing close. I go back to that what was 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.640 a Week six matchup between New England Kansas City. If 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.600 you play that particular game twenty five times. I guarantee 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.040 you at least twenty of them. New England's putting up 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.760 forty points. It's just the way that Kansas City was 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.679 playing that day, and it was the way that the 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.120 Patriots were able to move the ball. That's the key 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:52.399 right now. The Chiefs got gash for yards this season, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.760 but they were but they were situationally solid. Can you 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.800 do that now against one of the best to ever 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.760 do it? That's my storyline. And if you can, Wow. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.000 I mean, we talked so much about breeze and rivers, 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.879 but what about if Andy Reid can get back to 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.239 a Super Bowl? I mean that that would be uh, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.120 that would be pretty special to a lot of things 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.880 to follow for Yeah. Yeah, And I'll say this, they're 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:18.200 talking about an arctic blast hitting Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.240 City this weekend. That game is going to be played 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.840 at night. It's the second of the two championship games. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.040 And I don't want to take anything away from Tom Brady, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.760 and nothing that that guy does with the spotlight, as 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.080 bright as it is, will ever surprise me. But in 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.040 a game like this, when you're talking about potential arctic cold, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.639 I think the advantage shifts to the younger quarterback, you know, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.840 and and that's you know this, this really cold weather 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.200 thing that could be moving through the Midwest this weekend 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.879 could really play to Kansas City's advantage. Let's be honest 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.200 to Michael, especially watching that game last weekend, Kansas City, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.560