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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 5: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that birthfa brakers hot.

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Speaker 6: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artis.

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Speaker 4: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 7: Do we have a lot to say today?

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Speaker 8: It's Monday, August thirtieth, twenty twenty one, Episode three point

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Speaker 8: fifteen of The Antic and Florian Podcast. Television's Kenny Florian

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Speaker 8: is still in Las Vegas film and BattleBots.

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Speaker 7: I understand people are getting in the building.

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Speaker 8: Seem like some of my UFC colleagues we were sneaking

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Speaker 8: in the building or had access. How about this huh

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Speaker 8: giving away free tickets to BattleBots Ken flows out?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 9: What's that's amazing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got fans in the building.

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Speaker 9: It was great, It was good. You know how it

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Speaker 9: is man?

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Speaker 1: You know, watching fights with fans and without fans are

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Speaker 1: just two different animals.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. So last season, obviously we do not have any

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Speaker 9: fans in the building, and this season we did. Uh

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Speaker 9: So it was it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: The energy is just totally different, and it's been a

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Speaker 1: great season so far.

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Speaker 8: I know I oftentimes talk about the anxiety and broadcasting

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Speaker 8: being in the preparation and not the performance.

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Speaker 7: So how did the robots study go?

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Speaker 8: I know you had some anxiety about all the robots

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Speaker 8: that were in front of you to prepare for.

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Speaker 9: How did it go? It's still going? I got, I

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Speaker 9: got Yeah, No, it's you know how it is man.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's eight hour film days, just just a

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Speaker 1: filming alone.

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Speaker 9: It's eight hours every day.

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Speaker 1: And then prior to that, it's researching and talking to

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Speaker 1: about sixty sixty robot builders, so I memorizing their weapons

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Speaker 1: and what they do, and the names and the captains

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Speaker 8: Better you than me, So all right, a lot to

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Speaker 8: get to today. Of course, how do you think Giga

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Speaker 8: Chikadz feels about this whole Jake Paul Tyron Woodley stuff.

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Speaker 8: I mean, come on, man, So let's start with Giga

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Speaker 8: Chiekadse and Edson Barboza if that's okay, right, the sporting

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Speaker 8: event of Consequence over the weekend, of course, and then

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Speaker 8: time permitting, we'll get to some of the boxing stuff.

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Speaker 8: But we got to give d Rod some love at

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Speaker 8: least before we get to the Showtime boxing pay per view.

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Speaker 8: Gigaci Kadse, a lot of these sharps were on him

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Speaker 8: to beat Edson Barboza as a slight favorite. That's what

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Speaker 8: he did by TKO in round three. And I don't

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Speaker 8: anybody who sort of ingested his UFC body of work

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Speaker 8: What'd you make of Gigachi Kadz in his first UFC

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Speaker 9: It was a really fun fight, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think for anyone who is looking to study how

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Speaker 9: I thought that Giga.

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Speaker 1: Was throwing the right weapons at the right times, and

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Speaker 1: he just always finds a way to land those toes

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Speaker 1: mix it up. So I thought it was an awesome fight.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was an awesome performance. He almost got

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Speaker 1: Was a great matchup for him in that Edsen Barbosa

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Speaker 8: I know Geechee and others have put away at some Barbosa,

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Speaker 8: here at forty five? Because I don't know if this

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I just thought Giga was a little bit

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Speaker 1: I think the issue with me is that maybe if

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Speaker 1: I think that it's in Barbosa now has a lot

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Speaker 9: I think he's had a lot of tough fights.

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Speaker 1: He has, you know, changed several camps, He's been around

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Speaker 8: So in terms of the future for Cheek Codsey and

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Speaker 8: as documented behind me the greatest singular performance that you

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Speaker 9: I think it would be a fantastic fight.

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Speaker 1: But the question is, yeah, does he deserve that fight?

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Speaker 8: Well, no, that is a number one contender and the

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Speaker 8: So I guess the short answer is coming in number

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Speaker 9: A sick fight, and be a sick fight. I think.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if Giga gets another good win over a top

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Speaker 1: for for a Max Holloway fight, which would be insane.

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Speaker 9: Uh, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 8: So Max was to fight Yeahya Rodriguez, and obviously that

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Speaker 7: Perhaps not.

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Speaker 8: I think he chimed in actually on it on social

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Speaker 7: So Kevin Lee obviously had been out for a long time.

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Speaker 8: He returned at welterweight against Daniel Rodriguez, wins by unanimous decision.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's given up size in this weight class.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm not the first to say that publicly,

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Speaker 9: I do. I think that d Rod is a nasty dude.

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Speaker 1: I think when it gets dirty and when it's a

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Speaker 9: He's going to take that step forward.

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Speaker 1: not sure Kevin Lee is that guy necessarily. I think

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Speaker 1: He needs to be slicker, he needs to be smoother.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have those things at one hundred and seventy pounds.

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Speaker 9: He's in between.

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Speaker 1: to be a question of heart, of whose heart was bigger,

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Speaker 1: and I think d Rod really answered, you know, answer

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Speaker 9: He was landing more in the feet. He had hurt

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Speaker 9: Kevin Lee a few times during that fight. And I

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Speaker 1: I sometimes I question Kevin's commitment to mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 1: You know, he says one thing, but perhaps he's doing another.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know either he needs to get serious

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a huge change in Kevin Lee's game,

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Speaker 1: Like it's been the same Kevin Lee for several years.

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Speaker 9: And to me, that's a concern. And it's not me,

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Speaker 1: Of course, I just think that there's no reason why

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Speaker 9: There should be improvement, and I'm just not seeing that

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 7: I think that's all fair.

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Speaker 8: Cody Merrilchiman in best one hundred and sixty two pound

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Speaker 1: Both of these guys just tried to kill each other

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Speaker 1: Ricky Tertios had an answer every single time, and it

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Speaker 7: Is that what was going on wearing your PFL shirt?

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Speaker 9: Fun?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was at the UFCPI I got a chance

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Speaker 9: And yeah, I got some great training in with those guys.

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Speaker 9: So it was awesome. Man, it was. It was a

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Speaker 9: I was what I was fighting in the US.

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Speaker 8: Imagine imagine nutrition and everything else the most insane resource.

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Speaker 9: No, I just got done.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what so, uh so, how you doing?

443
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Speaker 10: Man?

444
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Speaker 7: It's nice to see it.

445
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Speaker 10: Yeah, nice to see you guys.

446
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Speaker 8: To bring a little New York flavor to this podcast,

447
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Speaker 8: I think, mean me, I like it.

448
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Speaker 10: Man was starting off very nicey nice. I love it.

449
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Speaker 8: What are we talking about the Yankees actually ruining my summer?

450
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Speaker 8: But that's neither here nor there. Uh, we have a

451
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Speaker 8: lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of people felt like I Chikaz

454
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Speaker 8: was special going into this main event against Edson Barboza,

455
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Speaker 8: and he certainly, uh you know, rewarded those people for

456
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Speaker 8: their confidence in him. What'd you think of the UFC

457
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Speaker 8: main event? I mean, did did you think we would

458
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Speaker 8: start anywhere other than there?

459
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Speaker 6: No?

460
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Speaker 11: Uh? I thought you would go right to Jake Paul

461
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Speaker 11: and uh yeah.

462
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Speaker 7: Well, depending on your time, we'll probably get no.

463
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Speaker 11: No, we'll get let's get get that fiasco later. But no,

464
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Speaker 11: chicase man unreal? Uh same kind of like I knew

465
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Speaker 11: he was good, but I think this took it to

466
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Speaker 11: another level. The way he dissected him. Kenny kind of

467
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Speaker 11: reminds me of that Giorgio I think thee Trojan, the

468
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 11: way you know, he's got that similar style. They know

469
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Speaker 11: how to make those kicks work for them. They keep

470
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Speaker 11: the range good the sharpshooters from the outside. I mean,

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Speaker 11: he basically negated anything it's and was going to do

472
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Speaker 11: and made it look easy, to be honest with you,

473
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Speaker 11: and I thought, that's a huge fight for him, and.

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Speaker 10: He's right where he wants to be.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: I kind of had the same, Like I knew Cyril

477
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Speaker 11: Gon was good, but the way he dissected the beast

478
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Speaker 11: like nobody else has, I thought was a big They're

479
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Speaker 11: at the right place at the right.

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Speaker 10: Time in their careers. I mean, they're ready to move

481
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Speaker 10: forward for sure.

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Speaker 8: So Cody just wrote, is Georgia the new Dagistan? I

483
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Speaker 8: wouldn't fight anyone from the Nation of Georgia for any

484
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Speaker 8: amount of money. I'm sort of inclined to do like

485
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Speaker 8: a tattoo bet right, if one of these Georgian fighters

486
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Speaker 8: can break through and win a championship, if it's Rob

487
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Speaker 8: Dwallace Willy or Kika Chikads, I don't know if I

488
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Speaker 8: want to go on the record and do that right now,

489
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Speaker 8: but it is incredible. These Georgian fighters, Man, it's unbelievable.

490
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Speaker 8: They're they're taken over so what else did jumped off?

491
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Speaker 8: Because I do want to get to some other things.

492
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Speaker 8: Anything else jump off the cart? How about Gerald Mershard?

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Speaker 10: Huh, let me tell you something.

494
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Speaker 11: Man, act goes under the category survive first then win.

495
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Speaker 10: I mean really wow.

496
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Speaker 11: I that was not looking good and man, did he

497
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Speaker 11: get the job done. What a tough s ob that

498
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Speaker 11: guy is. Man, you know it doesn't look it, but man,

499
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Speaker 11: he's tough.

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Speaker 10: Man.

501
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Speaker 11: That's my definition of a legitimate tough guy because he

502
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Speaker 11: definitely looked out class.

503
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Speaker 10: But he took what that guy.

504
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Speaker 11: Had to offer and he came back and that guy

505
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Speaker 11: couldn't hold up against his stuff.

506
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Speaker 10: So great. I thought that was a great fight.

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Speaker 7: And and another bonus for Gerald Mershard.

508
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Speaker 8: And I think my brother might have mentioned that he

509
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Speaker 8: and Duke Rufus might be a partnering up in the future.

510
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Speaker 8: Maybe I shouldn't be talking about that, but uh, big

511
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Speaker 8: things for Oh did he say it?

512
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So uh so this heel hook situation and Pat Sabatini

514
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Speaker 8: and Jamal emmers so ken flow. When this stuff's going

515
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 8: on on the broadcast, I'm just praying that I look

516
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 8: to my right and I got the jiu jitsu guy

517
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 8: that night, right, because I don't know what the fuck's

518
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Speaker 8: going on.

519
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Speaker 7: I don't want to know what's going on.

520
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 8: Dana White does not want to hear what I have

521
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Speaker 8: to say about what's going on, so, uh just doesn't

522
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Speaker 8: look pleasant. Ray, I mean, that's not your world necessary,

523
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Speaker 8: that's yeah, it's.

524
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Speaker 10: Not my world.

525
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Speaker 11: And I still give him a zero on his mental

526
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Speaker 11: Uh what do they call that?

527
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Speaker 10: Fight? I kill? He gets a zero? What was that? Kenny?

528
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Speaker 11: I mean, Dad practically was just a mess and Cyberutini

529
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Speaker 11: got the job done, which is good for him.

530
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Speaker 10: But yeah, I think he.

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Speaker 11: Got handed a little bit of a gift there, early

532
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Speaker 11: early Christmas present.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think that you know, if you if

534
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Speaker 1: you don't understand grappling and you haven't been in those situations,

535
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Speaker 1: it's hard to really respect some of those moves and

536
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Speaker 1: understand what's a finishing hold of what isn't. An inside

537
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Speaker 1: heel hook is the most powerful foot hold you can do,

538
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Speaker 1: right if you want to break someone's leg or you know,

539
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Speaker 1: tear some ligaments or get the tap like an inside

540
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Speaker 1: he'll hook is the most dangerous I think of them

541
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Speaker 1: all pretty much. He was trying to do a toe

542
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Speaker 1: hold and it just isn't as strong of a move,

543
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Speaker 1: so instead of addressing it defensively, he went on the

544
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Speaker 1: offense and tried to see if he could get the

545
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Speaker 1: other guy to tap and it just no poor choice.

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Speaker 9: If someone has a gun to your head already, you

547
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Speaker 9: don't try to go reach for your for some kind

548
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Speaker 9: of a weapon.

549
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 10: You're already flucked, right.

550
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Speaker 11: I mean that that's the that's the bottom line is that, Yeah,

551
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 11: he could have just got the fuck out of it.

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Speaker 10: He was having success standing up.

553
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Speaker 11: I can't when guys go in there like that, you

554
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 11: just know it's not good. I don't know, you could

555
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 11: see that was going nowhere but downhill.

556
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Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I don't know. He just that was

557
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Speaker 10: not a good look to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, better you guys than me to talk about it.

560
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Speaker 8: I love the Jym noise is when long goes live

561
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Speaker 8: in our garden City, New York.

562
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Speaker 10: You know, but you can here, you can hear Jim,

563
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 10: I'm lucked in the office. I forget where fore going

564
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Speaker 10: any for? Where the hell was Kenny on the PFL.

565
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Speaker 1: I I had another commitment. I was I was uh

566
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Speaker 1: looking at robots fighting.

567
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Speaker 9: I couldn't.

568
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Speaker 10: I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 11: They shout out to Chris Wade, man, he crushed it

570
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Speaker 11: about that.

571
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Speaker 7: That's a big Way underdog.

572
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Speaker 11: What a crazy story this is gonna be. He looks good, man,

573
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Speaker 11: he's in a different spot. He dropped that weight, which

574
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Speaker 11: is incredible. And yeah, man, he's been fighting his wrestling

575
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 11: is way. That's not underrated because he's he can wrestle good.

576
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Speaker 11: But he's very proud of his Long Island Routsie shouted

577
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Speaker 11: out Joe Patrovitch, who was a legend out here on

578
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Speaker 11: Long Island with the wrestling. So you know, like again,

579
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Speaker 11: it's a great example of a guy who's accoalogue wise

580
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Speaker 11: is way ahead of the other guy, but just doesn't

581
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Speaker 11: work out like that.

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Speaker 1: Some believe it in yourself because he's had a lot

583
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Speaker 1: of ups and downs of the course of his career

584
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: and to say, you know what, let me refocus my career.

585
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a risk and go down to forty

586
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Speaker 1: five and see if I can do it. You know,

587
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Speaker 1: he you know, obviously was no longer with the UFC,

588
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: had to really refocus, wasn't able to get it done.

589
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: To the PFL for a couple of seasons, and then

590
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Speaker 1: now he finally in the finals with a good chance

591
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Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 10: So what a really good chance to win one hundred percent.

593
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Speaker 11: And again, I think sometimes for the guys like him,

594
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Speaker 11: who I think he fought.

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Speaker 10: A little conservative and it might not been that he

596
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Speaker 10: fall conservative.

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Speaker 9: He guy had tough, tough.

598
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Speaker 10: Match in the UFC.

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Speaker 11: It's crazy, but now it's starting to pay off because

600
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 11: his experience now right really coming to fruition all those

601
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Speaker 11: tough crazy for it. I mean, he fought Mikailichev and

602
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Speaker 11: he fought him tooth and nail back in the you

603
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Speaker 11: know what I mean. So look where that guy is now.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, he's he's on a great point. Yeah, just yeah.

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Speaker 8: It was uh yeah, maybe his twentieth pro win, And

606
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Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought that up. You know, I don't

607
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 8: go out of my right way to uh to root

608
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 8: for New Yorkers, but I go out of my way

609
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 8: to root for him, you know, I really do. I

610
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 8: followed his career since he left the UFC, and very

611
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 8: happy for him. He's a huge New York Mets fan.

612
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 8: So uh, it's been a tough summer on that front,

613
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 8: taking his frustrations out on the PFL, but that's very exciting.

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Speaker 7: Hearts the gentle art.

615
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 8: Jiu jitsu the gentle art, right, like we're talking about

616
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 8: heel hooks and ligaments, right. I took seven, maybe eight

617
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 8: jiu jitsu classes in my life, ray, each one more

618
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 8: violent than the one previous. The gentle fucking.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no.

620
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Speaker 11: Of guys in your garden, he decides the can open

621
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Speaker 11: C three through C fucking twenty nine out of you

622
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Speaker 11: just rip them shreds.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the gentle art. How gentle is the can opener?

624
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Speaker 7: I follow you.

625
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 6: The first thing you learn on jiu jitsu is how

626
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: to get how to fall properly? Like it's the gentle art,

627
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: but learn how to fall up on your back prop.

628
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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 11: Speaking of jiu jitsu, man, that the Hickson Gracie book

630
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Speaker 11: I think is an A plus.

631
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Speaker 10: Man. I loved you get it.

632
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 11: Read it, man, Oh my god, I loved every second

633
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 11: of it because he elaborates on some stories we all

634
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 11: heard about, but just his philosophy on life and fighting

635
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 11: and man, he's honest.

636
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 10: Man, he's had some man that's a life.

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Speaker 6: Man.

638
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 11: I got done with that book and I go, I

639
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 11: haven't done a fucking thing with my life.

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00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 10: I'm like, Wow, this guy is.

641
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Speaker 9: I can't wait to read it.

642
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Speaker 1: I saw him on the Jocko Willing podcast and I

643
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: was just blown away by the stories. Man, I can't

644
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: I've been such a fan of his for so long.

645
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: He was like the master of masters and and uh,

646
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to read it.

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Speaker 9: Man, what a legend.

648
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

649
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Speaker 11: And I had the opportunity of training with Pedro Sour

650
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Speaker 11: a little bit one of his what Pedro another guy. Man,

651
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 11: if you're out there, buddy, what a just great times

652
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 11: with that guy and his philosophy and the way he

653
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 11: taught was beautiful. And then Hickson did a blue belt

654
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 11: test at my school when I first opened up my

655
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 11: second school, and just to listen to that guy and

656
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 11: watch him roll around was just totally different back then.

657
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Speaker 10: Man. It's just it's a great It's a great thing. Man.

658
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Speaker 11: It's that book I recommend to anybody, especially even hearing

659
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 11: him talk about holes and you know, just the other

660
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 11: people in the family like stuff you knew. But he

661
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 11: he's spicy, man, it's not he's not holding back anything.

662
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 11: He's Yeah, it's really good, honest, honest, honest.

663
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Speaker 8: Ray, you keep talking like this. Ken Fler is going

664
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Speaker 8: to stick around for another three hundred and fifteen episodes.

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Speaker 8: You might listen back to the show this week for

666
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Speaker 8: the first time in the history of the show because

667
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Speaker 8: a lot of all them.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's something It's like Ray is like such

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Speaker 1: an og that you know, he was in the Jka

670
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Speaker 1: D world with it. They had such an open mind

671
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Speaker 1: about learning from all different things that, like, you know,

672
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Speaker 1: I never had an opportunity to trade with Hickson, like

673
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Speaker 1: that was always a dream of mine.

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Speaker 9: But Ray's been around the block, Let's put it that way.

675
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Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, you're recounting that story

676
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Speaker 1: and read his books just is really.

677
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Speaker 10: Caught out the guy.

678
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Speaker 11: I think the guy he was special when I met

679
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Speaker 11: him twenty years ago. And it's I think the book

680
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Speaker 11: really just well, it was great. I mean I really

681
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Speaker 11: I went right through it. I enjoyed the shit out

682
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Speaker 11: of it.

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Speaker 7: How about that?

684
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Speaker 9: All right?

685
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Speaker 8: I'm not going to transition from Hicks and Gracie to Jake,

686
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Speaker 8: Paul and Tyron Woodley, so ally quin correct me if

687
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 8: I'm wrong.

688
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Speaker 7: Did they announce his fight on the broadcast over the weekend?

689
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Speaker 10: Cody?

690
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Speaker 7: Is that what happened in multitask? And they did.

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Speaker 10: I'll never that fight, will never happen.

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Speaker 9: Why what's the fight?

693
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Speaker 10: And I'm joking the broadcast let's go. Yeah, he was

694
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Speaker 10: in here last night. He looks great. I love working Now.

695
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Speaker 8: I want to tell the audience who didn't catch the

696
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Speaker 8: UFC telecast who else fighting at Madison Square Garden on

697
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Speaker 8: six November, Very very.

698
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Speaker 11: Tough and durable Bobby Green who we just saw Kenny.

699
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Speaker 11: We think he beat that guy. I swear to god,

700
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Speaker 11: I watched that fight again. Hey, that's a that's a

701
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 11: close fight. Man. He ate whatever that guy had to offer,

702
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Speaker 11: and he's tough.

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Speaker 10: He's not going anywhere that guy.

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 7: So Al and Bobby Green?

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Speaker 8: Uh a week after So basically when al So is

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Speaker 8: Al gonna be how are how are they going to

708
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Speaker 8: navigate this?

709
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Speaker 7: That's gonna fight Island and everything else.

710
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Speaker 10: I'm not really sure yet. That's gonna be tough.

711
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Speaker 8: On somebody, somebody above you on the pace scale. We'll

712
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Speaker 8: figure out how the hell everybody's gonna navigate that somebody

713
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Speaker 8: below you on the pacecale. No, because these guys are

714
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Speaker 8: neck in that corner in each other in theory one.

715
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Speaker 9: Of these.

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Speaker 7: Two weeks.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was supposed to go, So that's out now.

718
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Speaker 7: But Sarah, I believe has a cornering bed. I don't

719
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Speaker 7: know what's going on.

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Speaker 11: We got we got this from September twenty fifth to

721
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Speaker 11: November whatever. It's gonna be hell because I'm promoting two

722
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Speaker 11: shows in October. I got a wedding, another fight. Like,

723
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Speaker 11: if there's five weekends, every weekend is shot. So this

724
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Speaker 11: is gonna get very interesting.

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Speaker 8: Man, it feels like we need to have like a

726
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Speaker 8: pre show with this guy. He's got so much going on,

727
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 8: so we don't talk about all these things. I mean

728
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 8: with your regional shows that we failed to plug on

729
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Speaker 8: a seemingly weekly basis.

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Speaker 7: All right, welcome, before we uh, before we let you go?

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Speaker 8: Did you PLoP down your fifty nine to ninety nine

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Speaker 8: on Sunday evening for Jake Paul and Tywern Woodley on

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Speaker 8: Showtime Boxing pay per view.

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Speaker 11: In retrospect or in hindsight, I'm embarrassed to say, yes,

735
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Speaker 11: I did.

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Speaker 10: The show was a little bad. I mean, that fight

737
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 10: was horrendous, But yeah, I think.

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Speaker 11: I think Woodley came out looking better than the other guy.

739
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Speaker 11: He's not going anywhere. I thought he was a little

740
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Speaker 11: better as a boxer, and he did nothing. Woodley did nothing.

741
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Speaker 11: I don't even know that was a that wasn't good

742
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Speaker 11: for anybody.

743
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Speaker 10: That really was.

744
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Speaker 11: He's definitely I thought Jake Bull had a little more talent.

745
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Speaker 11: He's not going anywhere. That'll That'll say right now that

746
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 11: as a boxer he's you know why, because now he's

747
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 11: been in these crazy high profile fights. You can't put

748
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Speaker 11: him against like a normal guy, and those normal guys

749
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Speaker 11: will beat the crap out of him. You know, a

750
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Speaker 11: guy coming up the ranks with three or four fights.

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Speaker 8: Right right, no amateur background to speak of. Kenny doesn't

752
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 8: look like he could go ten rounds right now, and

753
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Speaker 8: if these are serving as his sort of amateur fights,

754
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Speaker 8: then so be it. I bought the pay per view,

755
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 8: recorded it, fell asleep, went to watch it the next day,

756
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 8: and they were telling me because I don't subscribe to Showtime,

757
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 8: I can't record the pay per view. I did find

758
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 8: a way to watch it, but I guess that's neither

759
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 8: here nor there. Disappointed historically for Tea would that this

760
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 8: is not going to be a win, but I don't

761
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 8: really have much to me. It's like there's no consequence here,

762
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 8: Like if Jake Paul is going to be a professional boxer,

763
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Speaker 8: can flow and power to him he already is right

764
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Speaker 8: and go on that type of career trajectory and have

765
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Speaker 8: seemingly more difficult challenges now in the future against legitimate

766
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Speaker 8: boxers in his weight class instead of aging guys moving

767
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Speaker 8: on power to them. That's the rub in terms of

768
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 8: the sporting event, right, But for me, it's in terms

769
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Speaker 8: of pay per view buys or an attraction like this.

770
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Speaker 8: You know there are UFC fights here in front of me,

771
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Speaker 8: Dustin Jacoby over Darren the dentist, steward of great consequence

772
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 8: for MMA careers, right, Like I don't watch the super Bowl.

773
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Speaker 8: I watched the Super Bowl because there's a lot of state,

774
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 8: not because everybody else is watching it.

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Speaker 11: Listen, I don't know, I don't Yeah, let me let

776
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Speaker 11: me say this. The only winner to me was Tyrone

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Speaker 11: Woodley's mother.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 10: Who doesn't love this lady?

780
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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you what.

782
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Speaker 11: Energy I mean, she's really who wouldn't want to hang

783
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Speaker 11: out with? Hush, She's she's looks like a pisser and

784
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 11: got a clear perspective on things.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know, you know, you know what's funny

786
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 10: about that?

787
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Speaker 11: And then we'll get out of it because I don't

788
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 11: want to beat this thing. But these Jake Pool Logo Pool,

789
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 11: you could see these guys, this is the new generation.

790
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Speaker 11: I like when Kenny when Woodley asked for a rematch,

791
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Speaker 11: They're like, why no, no, you had to turn. It's

792
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 11: somebody else's turning. This is like they don't even understand

793
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 11: what that guy's talking about. Like you don't like this

794
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 11: is this is only fair play, buddy, Like what are

795
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 11: you doing? Like they were legitimately confused. Yeah, somebody else's turned.

796
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 11: You can't cut the line right right. They were like

797
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 11: in shock. They didn't know what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's why I'm so torn over

799
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: this whole thing, because clearly, Jake Paul he's already millionaire.

800
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Speaker 9: He doesn't he doesn't have to fight to make millions

801
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 9: of dollars.

802
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Speaker 1: So you're like, Okay, you know he's he's trying to

803
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: find out something about himself or or you know, test

804
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: himself at a completely different arena.

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Speaker 9: But then at the same time, you're like, yeah, but

806
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 9: he's not.

807
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: He's not really trying to climb up and become a

808
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: boxing world champion.

809
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Speaker 9: He wants a spectacle.

810
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: He wants he wants to face guys with names and

811
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: create interest and put on events and shows. Not here

812
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: to you know, work on myself as a boxer and

813
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: see what I could do.

814
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Speaker 9: Like, I don't know. The whole thing I think is

815
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 9: just we're in a weird.

816
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Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, I think he's

817
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 11: honest with that assessment you gave. It's the other guys

818
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 11: that can't get as you know, like again, even Woodley

819
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 11: wanting to rematch for what ye like that that's actually heartbreaking.

820
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Speaker 1: And then I love and then I love tattoo. He

821
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Speaker 1: said he's willing to put a tattoo on his body

822
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Speaker 1: to get the rematch.

823
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Speaker 7: You don't like right doing it wrong exactly.

824
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 8: You have to get a tattoo of something you If

825
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 8: you do a tattoo bad, it's got to be something

826
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 8: that like you want forever.

827
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Speaker 9: You're selling yourself.

828
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 11: Man, Hey, we have an expert on getting tattoos right off,

829
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 11: right on living.

830
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 10: Right now.

831
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 8: So if I was a UFC fighter, right, I would

832
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 8: have been fired from probably most of my media gigs

833
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 8: at this point, right because that would have given me

834
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 8: sort of the conviction to say a lot of things right.

835
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Speaker 8: I guess for me as a mixed martial arts fan

836
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 8: and UFC fan, This is getting a little bit frustrating.

837
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 8: The askiring thing was a fucking joke, right, But like,

838
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 8: if you really want a UFC boxer to go in there, we'll.

839
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: Send somebody in there.

840
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 8: Like of all the tweets, I was more in Kenny

841
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 8: and Ray in what people had to say about this

842
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 8: fight than the actual fight. Gilbert Burns' tweet was the

843
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 8: one that jumped out of the room for me. Okay,

844
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 8: Jake can't box, not much, but way better than we thought.

845
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 8: He would make the money, but he don't want to

846
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Speaker 8: fight anymore. And therein lies the rub. Okay, if you said,

847
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 8: Gilbert Burns in there, right, grappler, wrestler, now outstanding striker

848
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 8: in MMA. But like Gilbert wants to fight, right, we'll

849
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 8: go in there and knock Jake Paul's head off for you, right.

850
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 7: And there are a lot of people that I think

851
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 7: we all believe would be able to do that.

852
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 10: Right.

853
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 8: So to send in a five time UFC welterweight champion

854
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 8: and have him lose to someone, uh, to me, it

855
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 8: just discras.

856
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 7: It's just annoying to So.

857
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 9: Did this one put it over the edge?

858
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 11: I think I think they're gonna have a I think

859
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 11: they will have trouble in the future.

860
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Speaker 10: I don't know.

861
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 11: I felt something weird even with Woodley, as corn Is

862
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 11: telling him, you gotta do more, You're gonna regret this tomorrow,

863
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 11: and he doesn't do more, and he doesn't regret anything.

864
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 10: He's the same. They will begging him.

865
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Speaker 11: Almost sounded like d Thomas begging him to you gotta

866
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 11: go forward, you gotta put combos toget, you gotta you

867
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 11: just gotta do more. You can't just walk around with

868
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 11: your hands up and then throw one punch here and there.

869
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 11: So just a bad look for everything as far as

870
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 11: I'm concerned, I don't know.

871
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we always save the uh the juicy stuff,

872
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 8: you know, clean.

873
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 7: Out with you.

874
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 8: Uh. Well, Daniel Rodriguez over Kevin Lee I thought was

875
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 8: an interesting fight and result.

876
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 7: I thought the rod certainly won.

877
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 11: Uh.

878
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 10: I heard Kevin Lee's protesting that fight. He feels one

879
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Speaker 10: hundred one protesting.

880
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 9: Really No, I'm.

881
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 10: Joking, that's well, No, I know he and somebody help

882
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 10: Kevin Lee.

883
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 11: Just go in and fight, man, do your best, don't

884
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 11: mention Usmann, don't stop with the your number five. I've

885
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 11: never seen a guy he showed himself in the I

886
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 11: don't think he's got any toes left.

887
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 10: He just shoots himself.

888
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 11: In the foot and fight and then he stands in

889
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 11: he has no like he's standing there thinking he won

890
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 11: that fight, Like is he outing on the judges just

891
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 11: sucking so bad that they're gonna give it to him?

892
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 11: Like like that that's what I mean, won the fight,

893
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 11: Like you couldn't.

894
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 9: Have thought that, you know.

895
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 11: But then I see these guys, they're waiting for the decision,

896
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 11: like holding their fish, like maybe I'm gonna get lucky.

897
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 10: I don't know what it could be.

898
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 9: You can't think you won that fucking fight.

899
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: But that's why you know people you know, again, for

900
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: people who say he could be, you know, the best

901
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: guy at one hundred and sixty two pounds, that's that's

902
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of blowny that that's bullshit.

903
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 9: Why because he says it because we think he's in

904
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 9: between weight classes. No, like that's not that's not the case.

905
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 9: I just I'm not buying it.

906
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other better fighters out there who

907
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: are more real with themselves, who are putting in the work,

908
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like there's always something like he's

909
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: talking about these huge goals when he hasn't even achieved.

910
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 9: It's just you know, and he's get close to that.

911
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 11: It's like, look, we all perpetuate this bullshit too, right,

912
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 11: I mean like even when he went with even Rogan

913
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 11: on now he's with Fara gonna well he's owing four

914
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 11: now with and for would never tell you what he's

915
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 11: gonna do with the guy because he knows that guy's limitations.

916
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 11: I'm sure, so it's not even fair to Faras, but

917
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 11: like it doesn't me some ships just seems so transparent.

918
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 11: I can't get why other people aren't seeing it. And

919
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 11: I just he's a super talented kid. There's no question

920
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 11: about his athletic but he how many years do you

921
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 11: say that all the guys he's taken down and he's

922
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 11: done this and you still got to do it when

923
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 11: it counts man, Like it's just it is crazy. And

924
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 11: then don't look up in the heavens and you know,

925
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 11: be confused like that's it just was weird. But that's

926
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 11: off the Rodriguez man, big stuff up for him. That's

927
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 11: a big confidence boost for him. And he did a

928
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 11: great job on a short notice.

929
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 8: Right, Oh dude, how about fucking Ray Longo bringing it today, folks, right, listeners, viewers.

930
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 11: Around, you're gonna get me after I worked out, I got.

931
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 8: The I'm telling you that's literally my inner monologue right

932
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 8: now is eleven am Monday, eleven am long Ago.

933
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 10: Oh no, that is right now.

934
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 7: We need the four to twenty.

935
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 8: I booked you at four to twenty because you're anti

936
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 8: weed and I knew it would be lost on you.

937
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 7: I booked you right at four twenty. All right, we

938
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 7: gotta go.

939
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 8: But seriously, if you're creating a demo package, since you're

940
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 8: a media mogul and you should really have them cut

941
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 8: up some stuff from today. Thanks for bringing it. We

942
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 8: will talk to you next Monday.

943
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 7: Oh real quick.

944
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 8: Derek Brunson, Darren Till, Who do you like in the

945
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 8: main event this weekend? Derek Brunson, Darn Till, Till the favorite,

946
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 8: Till minus one eighty d B plus one fifty five

947
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 8: Ray long Ago?

948
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 10: Who do you have?

949
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Till on that one, all.

950
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 8: Right, all right, shall as usual, But we love you.

951
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 8: You know what shockey Man's favorites right betting favorite out.

952
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 10: Of betting favorite.

953
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't.

954
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 10: That's a pretty big gap. I didn't think it would be.

955
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 10: I didn't think he'd be.

956
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 11: A minus one eighty it almost I thought that would

957
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 11: be close to a pick him, to be honest with.

958
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, well maybe Yeah, he's won four in

959
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 7: a row, four in a row.

960
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's got no respect at Old Brunson.

961
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 11: This is a big fight. This is I'm going with

962
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 11: to loo. I think I think the movement and the

963
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 11: power in his hands probably gonna upset a lot of good.

964
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 8: Hey, speaking of no respect, get the fuck out of here,

965
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: all right, we gotta go.

966
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 7: No, I just did I.

967
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 9: Last guy to me ended up in a garbage can.

968
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 7: Well, hey, I got this sense right now, I got.

969
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 10: This one of those days. Don the block and then

970
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 10: you go now and then.

971
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 7: No, I'm ready, I'm ready.

972
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 8: I'm I'm literally training for a fight, literally training for

973
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 8: a Yeah, out of irritation for the world, you know.

974
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 10: Oh wow, I am that's down on the world now

975
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 10: that a couple of weeks.

976
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 8: Now, I'm not going to bog down this podcast with

977
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 8: a marassive negativity, but.

978
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 11: It's I think the fact that his kid had to

979
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 11: stay home from school just throw him over the edge.

980
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 7: Today, I can't talk about it.

981
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 8: But he's been home for almost two weeks. No, No,

982
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 8: it's a it's a complete mess if you really want

983
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 8: to know, right, Uh, you know, I have no help whatsoever,

984
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 8: and you know, but it is what it is.

985
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 7: Hopefully the audience doesn't. Doesn't you know? Hear anything different?

986
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 10: A couple of hits of the old Vaye pen you'll

987
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 10: be right back to normal. Go for it.

988
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 7: There you go, all right, have a great week.

989
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 8: The Ray Longo minute every week on the Anakin for

990
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 8: Him podcast? All right, who deep breaths, UFC, Fight Night,

991
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 8: Brunts and Versus till under the lights inside that little

992
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 8: there you have APEX on Saturday night.

993
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 7: Let's get to the main event.

994
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge.

995
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 7: Every time it is.

996
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 12: Fish.

997
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: How do you everything possible to win?

998
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 4: It's the main event Challenge. John Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

999
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 8: All Right, the great Ian Parker now joins us for

1000
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 8: the Main Event Challenge, and so does the executive producer

1001
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 8: Cody Merrow, who I promise won't steal your shine.

1002
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 9: Ip.

1003
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 8: We do have a pronunciation of the week. But what's

1004
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 8: this kid doing? This millennial generation?

1005
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 9: I don't even am I doing?

1006
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 10: I don't know one.

1007
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 9: No, one ever knows what you're doing. I have no

1008
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 9: idea to me.

1009
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 12: He's just wearing sunglasses and the giant head said, I haven't.

1010
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 6: I just want to speak to the audience that if

1011
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 6: everyone could hear the conversation I and I had on

1012
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 6: Saturday immediately after GM three got the submission around two,

1013
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: you might not think that we were friends, but that's

1014
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: not mini brag, my mini humble brag. You no incredibly

1015
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 6: patient with my hubris. I love you, Ian, I love

1016
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 6: the Main Event Challenge. I love the Anak and Floyan podcast.

1017
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 9: I may have Cody just picked for me for the

1018
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 9: rest of the year.

1019
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 12: We can play Cody Cody, I don't know any For

1020
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 12: your own sake, though, let him write it, not speak it.

1021
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 9: Jesus Christ kid gets one pick.

1022
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 12: Did he also tell you that he put Martof in

1023
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 12: every single one of his parlays reading about accidentally saying

1024
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 12: him three by sub He lost twelve bets because he

1025
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 12: put Mardoff in there.

1026
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 8: Unbelievable loves Anthony showtime. Pettis has made almost twenty two

1027
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 8: thousand dollars betting on us.

1028
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 12: You know what I'd like to see Anthony Pettis also

1029
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 12: do show us the tickets that he lost, not just

1030
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 12: every ticket that he's won. So if you get well, no, no,

1031
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 12: just to be fair, that's cool that he's picking his

1032
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 12: friends and he hits him. But let's be realistic here.

1033
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 12: Everyone here has placed a bet in their lives. It's

1034
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 12: very easy to place the winners and now talk about

1035
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 12: your losers.

1036
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 9: I can almost.

1037
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 12: Guarantee you that he had to have a losing ticket

1038
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 12: at some point.

1039
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 10: He's not.

1040
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 9: He's not batting one hundred percent.

1041
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 8: I'm sure you bet on the Milwaukee Bucks one night

1042
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: minus five. The point is that the tickets that he's

1043
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 8: tossed out there on Instagram are his teammates as huge

1044
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 8: underdogs plus three hundred or plus four fifty.

1045
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 9: I saw the stocks, Hey, I saw.

1046
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 12: I'm just saying I'd like to see the five thousand

1047
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 12: he put on Tyron Woodley last night.

1048
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 7: I'd like to see show Time Pattison guys.

1049
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure Tyrone was one with Duke Rufus. I'm

1050
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 9: sure they're boys.

1051
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 12: You know he was an underdog, so let's see that.

1052
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 12: Let's see that ticket Showtime.

1053
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 6: Hey, I can show you a losing ticket on Tyron

1054
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 6: Woodley if you want to see it.

1055
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 8: I mean that I I j paul by decision was

1056
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 8: the bit If you're curious, Yeah, Ian, I just want

1057
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 8: to get this pronunciation of the week.

1058
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 7: Cody.

1059
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 8: You don't have to come back on screen with U

1060
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 8: with sunglasses, but you can if you want to.

1061
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 12: Uh.

1062
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 8: This man fights Marc Andre Power bar Barrio in the

1063
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 8: UFC's Middleweight Division live on ESPN plus South African two

1064
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 8: Division champion training now full time in Las Vegas at

1065
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 8: Extreme Co Tour.

1066
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 7: Cody, do we have that file? Please say we have? Oh,

1067
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 7: of course we do.

1068
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: My good sir, because you're talking about Deutcha Gamboula.

1069
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 7: Oh the champion, champion.

1070
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 11: Damn.

1071
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 9: I found that one up.

1072
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 8: Huh yeah, Ian, I mean, can you be the judge today?

1073
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 12: I mean, I couldn't understand what I couldn't He couldn't

1074
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 12: even say his own name.

1075
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 9: What a little Cody's his name?

1076
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 12: I heard doucha and then and then and then the

1077
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 12: and then the rest.

1078
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 9: It sounds like he fell off his bicycle.

1079
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 12: Do you know, Although I've never said, the Greek god.

1080
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: Doutch is exactly what everyone in the commentary is going

1081
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 6: to say after John says the name right every single time,

1082
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 6: Everyone's just gonna said doucha.

1083
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 12: I mean that recording, that was kind of hard to understand.

1084
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 12: I mean, but then again, Cody's wearing sunglasses inside, so

1085
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 12: that's an automatic in my book.

1086
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 6: I actually just tripped and told my acl ken Flo

1087
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 6: he messed up both names.

1088
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 7: If we're being honest, Yeah, that's a tough one, dude.

1089
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Like, if that's your UFC debut at one hundred and

1090
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: forty five pounds, you just put them against Max Hollowey.

1091
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 9: I mean that that's a tough one.

1092
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1093
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 7: What's so funny to me though about that?

1094
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 8: I hate I don't even want to talk about pronunciations, right,

1095
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 8: but it's like, ooh, these names are so hard, right.

1096
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 7: It's like.

1097
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 8: People don't want to practice names, but they'll go practice

1098
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 8: a Kimora sweep one hundred million fucking times, but they

1099
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 8: won't sit in their hotel room and say dalsha lung

1100
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 8: giambula twenty five times, so that then when they show

1101
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 8: up to the arena, they don't need fanetics. And I'm

1102
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 8: not talking about anybody on the broadcast, right, but it's like, like,

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Speaker 8: you know, dal shoalnghiambula is like the only reason I

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Speaker 8: can say it is because I've been forced to say

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Speaker 8: it a million fucking times.

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Speaker 12: I have no idea what's going on with this show today.

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Speaker 12: Ray must have just sprinkled some level of crazy between

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Speaker 12: you and Cody John, because I don't know what that

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Speaker 12: has to do. You just said that people are practicing

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Speaker 12: Kimora is supposed to pronounce this pronouncing his name. Why

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Speaker 12: would anyone outside of the commentary have to pronounce his

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Speaker 12: name unless you are rolling with fellow or dom or

1113
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Speaker 12: DC in the hotel room. Do you picture DC is

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Speaker 12: like throwing John and moves while John's working on all

1115
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Speaker 12: the pronunciations and DC's not. That's what I'm kind of

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Speaker 12: picturing right now, that, like I'm sitting here in DC's

1117
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 12: like throwing in doubles. He's throwing with a dars while

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Speaker 12: John's like, Yo, can you pronounce this guy's freaking name?

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Speaker 9: And that's kind of the picture that we was just

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Speaker 9: painted right there. You're smiling, but you know, I'm right.

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Speaker 8: Well, there are dozens of people that are charged with

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Speaker 8: pronouncing this name correct You know, our producers take great

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Speaker 8: pride in pronouncing the names correctly because they're constantly communicating

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Speaker 8: with us, you know, and those guys fucking practice. Sorry

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Speaker 8: to the chill I know week so we do have

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Speaker 8: a lot of young listeners. And if your parents don't

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Speaker 8: cuss my kids, their father does. So I apologize for

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Speaker 8: today's language, all right, Like Kenny's got better things to do.

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Speaker 7: It's coming up on two o'clock Ppacific.

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Speaker 8: Time you actually fighting I Brunton versus till this fight

1131
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 8: card has absorbed a lot of body blows at this point.

1132
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Speaker 8: So as of this tape, and we have ten fights

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Speaker 8: picks on three today boys at light heavyweight, IP will

1134
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Speaker 8: start with you. Lithuania's Modestus bokowskis minus one fifty five

1135
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 8: taken on the American Khalil Roundtree Junior, who is plus

1136
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 8: one thirty five. Bakowskis twenty seven years old, trying to

1137
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 8: avoid a third straight loss. That is also the fate

1138
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Speaker 8: of Brown Tree Junior losing to Ewan kute Laba and

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Speaker 8: then most recently this past January UFC two fifty seven

1140
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 8: on points to Marchine Pragneo on flight island Ian Parker,

1141
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 8: who do you have?

1142
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Speaker 12: I like bodestas Picaucus. In this one we talk about business.

1143
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 12: Then we lead off with that.

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Speaker 9: I love it. Yeah, So here's my problem with Khalil Roundtree.

1145
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 9: I think we've seen his ceiling.

1146
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 12: I think we know how he fights, and for Modesta's

1147
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 12: all he's got to do. It's not this simple, but

1148
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 12: you put the pressure and you don't let Khalil get.

1149
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 9: His kicks off early.

1150
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Speaker 12: You get him on his back foot, and I think

1151
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 12: that Modestas gets his first win in the uf see

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Speaker 12: in this one.

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Speaker 8: Kemp Flo, What do you think Bokowskis Khalil Rountree Junior.

1154
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like Bokowskis as well. I think he's a

1155
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 9: very dangerous striker.

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00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes he leaves himself open and gets

1157
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: a little overly aggressive, which could you know, have an

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00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: opening for Khalil to land a big shot.

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Speaker 9: And I think for Khalil he's one of the.

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Speaker 1: More difficult guys, like if you've gambled on him in

1161
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: previous fights, He's so hot and cold.

1162
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 9: It's he's a hard guy to bet for or against.

1163
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: But I think Bokowskis is a little bit more consistent,

1164
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's totally found his stride in

1165
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: the UFC just yet.

1166
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Speaker 9: But I like Pokowskis as well.

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Speaker 8: All right co main event, Tom aspen All minus three

1168
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 8: hundred or so taken on Sergei Spivok plus two twenty five.

1169
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 8: So Sergey Pavlovich was going to be returning for the

1170
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Speaker 8: first time in a long time, but visa issues I

1171
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Speaker 8: believe will prevent him from competing in the Comayine. So

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Speaker 8: Tom Aspinall and Sergey Spivak I think rank thirteen and

1173
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Speaker 8: fourteen respectively. Polar Bear stepping up here. Ian, we'll start

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Speaker 8: with you on the Comaine event. Aspinall three to one

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Speaker 8: favorite here.

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Speaker 12: I don't think he should be a three to one

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Speaker 12: favorite just yet. Sergey Spiak has been fighting pretty well.

1178
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 12: He's been fighting pretty intelligent, and I think he keeps

1179
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 12: getting better. There's a size advantage with the height, you know,

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Speaker 12: and we saw Aspinall against and jiar Alowski take a

1181
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Speaker 12: lot of that first round. He wasn't winning, you know,

1182
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 12: he was getting outlanded a lot, and Spiedback does have

1183
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 12: that striking. However, I think the short notice is going

1184
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 12: to make a difference here, and I think Aspinall also

1185
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 12: will have the advantage in the grappling, the wrestling in

1186
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Speaker 12: the clinch, you know. So to me, I will go

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Speaker 12: with Aspinall, but I'll say, at a betting standpoint on

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Speaker 12: minus three hundred, I think that's a stretch. I think

1189
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Speaker 12: if this wasn't short notice, he'd probably closer to like

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Speaker 12: minus one to eighty.

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Speaker 8: All right, good, stuffy, and you look good with that

1192
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 8: white backdrop, by the way, as well with the Florida ten.

1193
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Speaker 8: Aspinall is a hammer can flow Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt,

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00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 8: tremendous power skills in all area. My notes say that

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Speaker 8: three and o in the UFC, he's won six in

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Speaker 8: a row overall, and speedbox still just twenty six, A

1197
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Speaker 8: lot of momentum for him. Three wins in a row

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Speaker 8: last time out June nineteenth, went over alexiolnok KEMPFLA. What

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Speaker 8: do you have for us on the co main event?

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Speaker 1: I'll keep this relatively simple. I think that Ian did

1201
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: a good breakdown already. The only thing I'll have to

1202
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: add is that with Aspinall, I think he has good

1203
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: individual skills. Sometimes he doesn't go out there and fight smart.

1204
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: You're just like, you know, this is an easier path.

1205
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Why aren't you just doing that? Why aren't you trying

1206
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: to take him down? Why are you trying to make

1207
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: it more difficult on yourself. But I do think he's

1208
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. I think here's a lot

1209
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Speaker 1: of potential. I hope that he's got good mentoring and

1210
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: they're pushing him in the right direction if he is,

1211
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Speaker 1: I like aspinall.

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Speaker 9: Here here as well.

1213
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Speaker 8: Did any fan at BattleBots say anything to you about

1214
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 8: the podcast or no?

1215
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: Not yet.

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Speaker 1: No, man, we're isolated, so like we're kind of like

1217
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Speaker 1: not people aren't really they don't really have the opportunity

1218
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Speaker 1: to understand main.

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Speaker 12: Event challenge battle bot style. That will be the real

1220
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Speaker 12: crossover you need. I heard John, I told you one

1221
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Speaker 12: time I went to Toss and Picture. I've never listen

1222
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Speaker 12: battle Bot's not my thing. There was a robot called

1223
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Speaker 12: the Duck, and I sent to Kenny. I said it's true,

1224
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Speaker 12: and he's.

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Speaker 9: Jit what I hear?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, ye.

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Speaker 1: I had a couple of production guys come up to

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Speaker 1: me though, all right, that's good enough.

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Speaker 9: You have me production guys who listen to the podcast.

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00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 8: Obviously, it's more likely at a mixed martial arts event

1231
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 8: that somebody would be approaching about the podcast. But it's

1232
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Speaker 8: all anybody wants to talk to me about on the road,

1233
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 8: So I was hoping you would feel in that love

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00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 8: it at battle all right, main event at middleweight. It's

1235
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 8: so interesting when huge fights to me happen inside this

1236
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 8: little UFC a pax. We got a big one this weekend.

1237
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Speaker 8: Seventh rank Darren un Till minus one eighty number five

1238
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 8: Derek Brunson plus one fifty five So on paper, Ken

1239
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 8: Flow who will lead us off here by the way

1240
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 8: a nine to four week for Team Floor and courtesy

1241
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 8: of Cody Merrill. Things have tightened up considerably so Till

1242
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 8: has lost three of four in there A split decision

1243
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 8: win over Kelvin Gastolon that was at UFC two forty

1244
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 8: four November of twenty nineteen at Madison Square Garden feels

1245
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 8: like a lifetime ago. But Till's the favorite here Kenny,

1246
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 8: and it still feels like he's on the cusp of

1247
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 8: the title shot if he can get past Derek Runson,

1248
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 8: who has won four in a row since he was

1249
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 8: stopped by the undisputed champion Israel.

1250
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Speaker 7: Lot of Sonia big main event, can flow? Who wins it?

1251
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 7: And how do they get it done?

1252
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Speaker 9: You know, I think.

1253
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: Derek Brunson has surprised a lot of people with his resurgence.

1254
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 9: I think he's fighting smarter. He definitely is training.

1255
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: Hard, you could see that, but I do think he's

1256
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: down on skill a little bit and firepower. I would

1257
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: like to think that Darren Till is putting in that

1258
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: same kind of effort and trying to get better as

1259
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: a fighter, specifically as a grappler wrestler, so he can

1260
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: keep this on the feed. And if he is able

1261
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: to keep it on the feet, I think he should

1262
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: have a pretty I don't want to say easy time,

1263
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: but it should be pretty comfortable for him. I think

1264
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: he will eventually land the shot, and I think Darren

1265
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: Till it is going to be explosive early on, and

1266
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: I think he gets it done in round two. I

1267
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: think Darren Till gets it done by knockout our TKO

1268
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: in round two, starts on the feet, follows him up,

1269
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: follows it up and finishes it on the ground with TKO.

1270
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Speaker 9: So that's the way I see it. I think Derek

1271
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 9: Brunt is going to struggle a little bit against Darren

1272
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 9: Till and taking him down.

1273
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: I think Darren Till's movement and his variety is going

1274
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: to be a little tough for for Derek this time around.

1275
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Speaker 8: Ten thirty am Pacific, the first of the day on Saturday,

1276
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 8: which very excited. All Right, Ian Parker, you will have

1277
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 8: the final word on this, Darren Til minus one eighty

1278
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 8: Derek brn.

1279
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Speaker 9: Yeah. Look, Derek Brunson's definitely had a research. It's like

1280
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 9: Kenny said, But I also think those outside.

1281
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 12: Edmond Schabazi in which I don't think anyone took Derek

1282
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 12: and I'll say the same thing here, but I think

1283
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 12: against Kevin Holland, we all knew what was going to happen.

1284
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 12: Brunson just wrestle Wressell Wressell, and he did it. I

1285
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 12: think stylistically, this is going to be a rough one

1286
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 12: for him. I think Till is very difficult to take down.

1287
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 12: I think if Brunson could take him down early in

1288
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 12: the fight before he gets sweaty, and control him for

1289
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 12: round one, me round two and make Till fight from

1290
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 12: behind and chase those power shots to.

1291
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 9: Me, that's how Brunston wins.

1292
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 12: However, I just think that this fight will probably stay

1293
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 12: on the feet. Till does have good takedown defense, and

1294
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 12: I think Darren Till will win this fight. I don't

1295
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 12: know if he finished with Derek Brunson Brunson has not

1296
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 12: been finished in a really, really long time.

1297
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 9: So I'll say I'll play it safe and say till

1298
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 9: by decision.

1299
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Speaker 12: I may change that to a late round play. But

1300
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 12: both guys got a good cardio. They've shown that they

1301
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 12: can go the full five. I just think that this

1302
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 12: is going to be on the feet until is the

1303
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 12: better striker.

1304
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Speaker 8: Beautifully put as usual on social media at Ian Parker MMA.

1305
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 8: Next week, we will be doing a show on Labor

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 8: Day as long as the UFC as a live event

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Speaker 8: the following weekend, which presumably they do. Actually maybe they

1308
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Speaker 8: don't on September eleventh, but either way, next week super

1309
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Speaker 8: Bowl prediction, AFC, NFC and ultimately who wins the game,

1310
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 8: in addition to all the mixed martial arts stuff, and

1311
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 8: we'll talk to you in about six and a half

1312
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Speaker 8: days unless you got something else.

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Speaker 12: I got one thing I called you guys at the

1314
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Speaker 12: end with Ray talking about the whole thing with Jake Paul,

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Speaker 12: the whole like, what does he go from here?

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Speaker 9: Who fights? I just want to throw my two cents

1317
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Speaker 9: in a little bit with that.

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Speaker 12: The one Woodley literally said today that he agrees to

1319
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Speaker 12: getting the tattoo for the rematch.

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Speaker 9: That's what he does.

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Speaker 12: You know for me, listen, Jake Paul, he's not going

1322
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 12: to fight Tommy Fury because no one cares about Tommy

1323
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Speaker 12: Fury right now.

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Speaker 9: I mean you saw whoever watched that. That was hard

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Speaker 9: to watch.

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Speaker 12: I think if you're going to send a UFC fighter

1327
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Speaker 12: in to clean this mess up, it's game bred Masvidal,

1328
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 12: and I think wait wise it makes sense, boxing skills,

1329
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 12: whyse it makes sense. I think John is sick and

1330
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 12: tired of talking about this, which makes a lot of sense.

1331
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Speaker 12: I just wanted to say, I think if you want

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 12: to end this madness right now, you're throwing someone who's

1333
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Speaker 12: still current active style wise, boxing wise can do it.

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Speaker 9: And my pick would be Masvidal.

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Speaker 8: Jake Paul ain't trying to end this madness, and Nikisa

1336
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 8: has done a great job promoting him, and I give

1337
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 8: Showtime Boxing credit as well.

1338
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that ain't gonna happen. They'll be selective.

1339
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 8: I just do eventually hope he's in there with a

1340
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 8: classically trained professional boxer, But well, there's.

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Speaker 12: Dude, there's no reason for him to do that. He's

1342
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 12: making more money fighting guys like Woodley. Think about this now,

1343
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 12: the amount of money he's making to do these type

1344
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Speaker 12: of fights, He's essentially creating another avenue for I don't

1345
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 12: want to call it celebrity box anymore. This is even

1346
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 12: social media because he's training, you know, but yeah, you know,

1347
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Speaker 12: And look, Woodley is a credentialed NIX martial artist, you know,

1348
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 12: obviously not a boxer per se. But I don't think

1349
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 12: Jake Paul looked like a great boxer.

1350
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Speaker 7: Let I don't, and a lot of people don't.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, I guess for me, until he's eight no,

1352
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Speaker 8: right four and o now, until he's eight no, and

1353
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Speaker 8: then maybe it would be appointment viewing. But as far

1354
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Speaker 8: as I'm concerned, I'd go to the second PFL prelim

1355
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Speaker 8: Mississippi mean Jason Knight lusing by the way, in his

1356
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 8: PFL debut, and that is a sporting event with greater

1357
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Speaker 8: consequence right now, As far as I'm concerned, I feel

1358
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Speaker 8: bad for my guy Mississippi mean, uh ip, we kind

1359
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Speaker 8: of got a scoot unless uh I'm where my tea?

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Speaker 8: Would I mean, I love t would I've been a

1361
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Speaker 8: Ferguson Missouri to his house. I dressed up as him

1362
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 8: for Halloween, like I was hoping he would take care

1363
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Speaker 8: of business. But uh, you know, I think to what

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Speaker 8: to Gilbert Burns's point, like, he's a little bit of

1365
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 8: a reluctant thrower h and absorber of straight in return

1366
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Speaker 8: at this stage of his combat sports career.

1367
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Speaker 12: Look, he waited, he waited, and the waiting and the

1368
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 12: hesitations will cost him the fight. And I took Bobby

1369
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 12: Moffitt over Jason Knight.

1370
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Speaker 7: So on that note, all right, hey, good stuff.

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Speaker 8: Of course it's it's AUDESPN.

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Speaker 9: Listen, it's on. You can't not no lies there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, musn't give me a dick, no nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 9: I'm just kidding.

1375
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Speaker 10: I love you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, we'll talk to you next week.

1377
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Speaker 8: All right, that's it for the main event challenge. It

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Speaker 8: is now time for the pick to click. It is

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Speaker 8: you need to know before placing bets on the upcoming

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Speaker 8: Fight Center nicely compartmentalizes all the matchup information that I

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Speaker 8: need to know in advance the calm the fights this weekend.

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Speaker 8: They've got all the odds also from various sportsbook there

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Speaker 8: for you to peruse. And I'm telling you in terms

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Speaker 8: of the mixed martial arts handicapping across the board, their

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Speaker 8: experts have all been watching and analyzing and capping mixed.

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Speaker 7: Martial arts for a long time.

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Speaker 8: So to that in of all the odd Shark talent

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Speaker 8: that we could have on the program, perhaps.

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Speaker 7: The top seed is Joe Osborne. Let us get to Joe.

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Speaker 4: Time now for the pick to click, the pick to click.

1396
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Speaker 5: All I have to do is bet on the winner

1397
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Speaker 5: and I'll never lose.

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Speaker 4: ANAK and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 11: Hey.

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 5: Boys?

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01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 8: Oh he's got that fancy odd Shark backdrop off to

1403
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 8: the right. I guess we don't get that treatment. How

1404
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 8: can we get that next week?

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Speaker 9: Joe?

1406
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Speaker 7: I know it's been a busy exep boys.

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Speaker 5: It looked rough.

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Speaker 13: Here for a while, but I'm working from home now,

1409
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 13: so I need to dress it up.

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01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 5: So we painted then here. I got some memorabilia up on.

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Speaker 10: The wall there, so.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a nice looking set here. Used to be

1413
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Speaker 5: those blue walls as you Yeah, I.

1414
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Speaker 13: Have two children, as you know, both by the same woman,

1415
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 13: by the way, So we went with a colorful theme

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 13: down there with the blues. So it's something a little

1417
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 13: bit more more neutral here this time around.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's always good to talk to you, especially on

1419
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 8: the cusp of another NFL season. You can find Joel

1420
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 8: on social media Instagram at paper Chaser Joe. I might

1421
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 8: have to just go paper Chaser John at some point,

1422
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 8: and Jtfoz is the Twitter handle before we get to

1423
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Speaker 8: Darren Till and Derek Ronson. I know you might have

1424
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 8: a way drift. I'm kind of on the UFC main

1425
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 8: event this weekend, and certainly we can talk some NFL stuff.

1426
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Speaker 8: You're wearing your Miami Dolphins hat loud and proud. I

1427
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 8: live in South Florida. I ingest a lot of local Yeah,

1428
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 8: Miami Dolphins helmet if you're watching on YouTube right behind him.

1429
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 8: So I ingest lot of local sports talk radio these

1430
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 8: days because my fucking serious satellite radio my minivan is broken.

1431
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 7: If you really need to know.

1432
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 8: So, I'm listening to a lot of local sports radio,

1433
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Speaker 8: and it seems as though the Dolphins enthusiasm is starting

1434
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 8: to sort of wane relative to a few weeks ago.

1435
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 8: What can you tell me about your hopes and dreams

1436
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 8: for this edition of the Miami Dolphins.

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 13: Well, I didn't like earlier the weekend these Deshaun Watson

1438
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 13: rumblings coming out, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever, And

1439
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 13: it comes off a little bit as fake news to

1440
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 13: me because I follow every single beat reporter on the team,

1441
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 13: and there's just a lot of enthusiasm around two. I've

1442
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 13: seen every single snap he's taken in the preseason. Sometimes

1443
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 13: you had to take the preseason with the grain of salt,

1444
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 13: but he's just throwing darts out there. So he's made

1445
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 13: some pretty big leaps from a rookie season that was

1446
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 13: fairly average, criticized a lot, but I think the Dolphins

1447
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 13: are going to be in the mix to get into

1448
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 13: the playoffs here this year. I don't think their Super

1449
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 13: Bowl can tender by any means, but I think they're

1450
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 13: going to get better on offense. You know, they have

1451
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 13: an offense that's built around Tua this time around, a

1452
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 13: playbook that's built around him, restraints, They got some weapons

1453
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 13: for him as well, so that's going to be helpful.

1454
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 13: Guys with a lot of speed who can get separation.

1455
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 13: So the offense is going to get better. The defense

1456
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 13: will probably regress a little bit. You know, they had

1457
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 13: a lot of bounces go their way, so they had

1458
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 13: a lot of turnover lock. So I think they're going

1459
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 13: to be in the mix. Man that the Patriots are

1460
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 13: pretty big question mark in that division. Who knows what

1461
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 13: we're going to see out of them. I think Buffalo

1462
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 13: is going to be there as a Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 5: The Jets. Don't waste your time right there.

1464
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Speaker 13: But yeah, I think Miami's going to be in the mix.

1465
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 13: I think they have the fourth easiest schedule in the NFL, too,

1466
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 13: which helps.

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Speaker 5: So so I'm very, very excited.

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Speaker 8: Here's my ticket right now, placed at Circa Sportsbook on

1469
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Speaker 8: I don't even know July eleven. Buffalo Bill's at twelve

1470
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Speaker 8: to one, four hundred and fifty dollars to win fifty

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Speaker 8: four hundred.

1472
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Speaker 7: So I'm with you on the Buffalo race.

1473
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 8: That's really me just trying to take down their whole

1474
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 8: season on behalf of the Patriots, right, Kenflow, Let's be

1475
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 8: fucking honest about it.

1476
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 7: Did you bet on this?

1477
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Speaker 8: Jake Paul Tyron Woodley Business Joe Osborne for recreation purposes

1478
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 8: or otherwise.

1479
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Speaker 13: This was the biggest bet I've won all year, and

1480
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 13: maybe the easiest bet I ever made in my life.

1481
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 5: And thank god, I tweeted out earlier in the week.

1482
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Speaker 13: Last week, I said, the bet to make on the

1483
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 13: Jake Paul Tyron Woodley fight is for Jake Paul to

1484
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Speaker 13: win by decision at plus eight hundred.

1485
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Speaker 5: I couldn't believe they were hanging that number. I saw that,

1486
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 5: I said, what is going on here?

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Speaker 13: I said, it makes all the sense in the world

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Speaker 13: that this is going to be a longer fight. You know,

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Speaker 13: Woodley became known as a bit of a decision machine

1490
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 13: towards the tail end of his UFC career. Now, I

1491
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 13: know it's a completely different sport, but I could I

1492
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 13: envisioned a bit of a slow start to it, because

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Speaker 13: you know, pretty big upgrade and competition for Jake Paul

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 13: and then the other part of his Okay, Jake Paul's

1495
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 13: never been in a long fight before, so the longer

1496
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 13: this might goes, more his energy and power is going

1497
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 13: to be zach and so I took the over three

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Speaker 13: and a half.

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Speaker 5: I took Paul plus eight hundred.

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Speaker 7: Biggest went over three and a half.

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, over three and a half was plus money

1502
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 13: two that was like plus one ten. So I was

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 13: just dumbfounded that they were hanging that number of people

1504
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 13: were sending me tickets.

1505
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: Some people got it at that twelve to one some sportsbooks,

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01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 5: so I got a shitty number. But yeah, just a wild, wild.

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Speaker 8: Beat there, right, I yeah, I don't want to go

1508
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 8: too far down right, like I would never want a

1509
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 8: discredit tyrant, but I thought he was up against it

1510
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 8: in certain ways in that fight.

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Speaker 7: Well it was go ahead.

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Speaker 13: It was that fight was set up for Jake Paul

1513
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 13: to win. Now, I'm not going to be one of

1514
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 13: these people and say it was fixed because it wasn't.

1515
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 13: But it was a hand picked opponent fighting and JA

1516
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Speaker 13: Jake Paul a pretty big size advantage, you know, the.

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Speaker 5: More technical, skilled boxer.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 13: So well, I think we're not going to get into it,

1520
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 13: but I will say I don't think Jake Paul does

1521
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 13: very well versus an actual train.

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Speaker 8: Boxer, professional record, and picked opponent in a lot of respects. Like,

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 8: nothing fixed about it, but certainly you try to sort

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 8: of align a few things that would play in your favor.

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01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 8: All right, So Darren till minus one eighty Derek Brunston

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Speaker 8: plus one fifty five. I don't know if the round

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Speaker 8: propositions and all that stuff is out there this early

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Speaker 8: in the week, but will you have a wager on

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Speaker 8: Saturday's UFC main event?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I like the underdog Brunson here guys a plus

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01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 13: one sixties. So sadly I heard Kenny and Ian on

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 13: the Till side, but I think this is an excellent

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 13: situational betting spot to hammer.

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Speaker 5: The underdog here. So I take a look at Darrent Hill.

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Speaker 13: I think he's good, but not great, and as a

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 13: result of that, I think he's a little bit overrated.

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Speaker 13: I see him as a guy who's been the recipient

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Speaker 13: of what I called UFC European push. You know, I

1539
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 13: think they're promoting him quite heavily in trying to position

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 13: him as you know, England's next big UFC star, perhaps

1541
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 13: to fill those shoes left behind by Michael bisbeing and

1542
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 13: he's just not getting there, you know. One and three

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 13: in his last four fights, the one win a fairly

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 13: closet one versus Calvin Gastilom, who's losing a lot these days, right,

1545
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 13: And I see some red flags here with darn til

1546
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 13: he has a negative striking differential in his UFC career.

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 13: He's also giving up a three inch reach. Now we

1548
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 13: take a look at Derek for incident, and this guy's

1549
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 13: you know, been positioned as a bit of a gatekeeper.

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01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 13: But all he does, he keeps slaying that gate shut.

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 13: You know, four straight wins, all of which as an underdog.

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 13: By the way, this four fight win streak that he's on,

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 13: and he only tends to recognize that, yeah, all all

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 13: as an underdog. He was an underdog in all of

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Speaker 13: those fights. And you know, if you look at his

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Speaker 13: losses in the UFC, the majority of them are too

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 13: you know, the elite of the elite, of the middlewake

1558
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 13: division and of course out of Sonya, Joela Romero, Robert Whitaker,

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 13: Zach Braine twenty eighteen and you know that controversial decision

1560
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 13: loss to Anderson Silva.

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Speaker 5: No, so he didn't money man.

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Speaker 13: I just view Brunson as probably the most undervalue guy

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 13: in in the division, right, so at plus one sixty,

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 13: I will take a shot, and you know, kill should win.

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 13: I think the UFC wants him to win because you know,

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Speaker 13: him versus out of Signya, that'd be a fun build

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 13: up right, that'd be a fun fighte. But I'll take

1568
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 13: the underdog. I'll keep him as they you know, the

1569
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 13: slam that gate shut again. Plus one sixty.

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Speaker 5: I like that number.

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Speaker 7: That's very interesting.

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think Ray Longo earlier suggested he thought

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 8: it would have been a lot closer on paper, at

1574
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 8: least in terms of that number.

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 7: I plan to ask both guys.

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01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 8: About the octagon size, because I do think it stands

1577
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 8: to reason that the twenty five footer could favor Brunson

1578
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 8: stylistically in the fight as well. All right, before I

1579
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 8: let you go, NFL season is here, Dallas at Tampa

1580
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 8: in the open or Thursday, September ninth.

1581
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Speaker 7: So what do you have for it? Is you got

1582
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 7: like a Super Bowl future?

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 8: Anything for our audience on the NFL before we let

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Speaker 8: your fly.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, let's get right to it. My super Bowl pick.

1586
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 13: I put a lot of thought into this throughout the courses.

1587
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 7: I'm going to go literally when we get off the air,

1588
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go bet on this. So have at it.

1589
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Speaker 13: So it's the two most complete teams on both sides

1590
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 13: of the ball that I have meeting in the Super Bowl,

1591
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 13: and the teams I'm talking about one, no surprise at

1592
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 13: all the Tampa Bay Bucks, and I have them losing

1593
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 13: in the Super Bowl to the Cleveland Browns, the first

1594
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 13: time ever in my life that I've been high on

1595
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 13: the Cleveland Browns coming into a season. Cleveland Brown's fourteen

1596
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 13: to one to win the Super Bowl. So you know,

1597
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 13: the case for Tampa is a pretty obvious one, right.

1598
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 13: They have every single starter returning. I think their path

1599
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 13: to the super Bowl will actually be easier this year

1600
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 13: than it was last year. They have a fairly easy schedule.

1601
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 13: You know, they don't have Drew Brees to contend within

1602
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 13: that division anymore.

1603
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 5: So I think they're going to be able to secrere that.

1604
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,480
Speaker 13: Number one seed in the NFC and have that easier

1605
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 13: path to getting to the super Bowl this time around.

1606
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 13: As for the Browns, I think they're a team that

1607
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 13: fit the blueprint right. They got a pretty good taste

1608
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 13: last year. They got a bit of a monkey offer

1609
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 13: back by getting a playoff win versus the Steelers, and

1610
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 13: we saw them very competitive versus Kansas City.

1611
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 5: They probably should have won that game.

1612
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 13: You know, they had a nice break with that Patrick

1613
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 13: Mahomes getting injured. But you look at the team they

1614
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 13: have elite talent, elite playmakers on both sides of the ball.

1615
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 13: Some of these guys are just entering their prime right now.

1616
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 13: Baker Mayfield is coming off the best season of his career.

1617
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 13: They might have the best defense in the NFL. They

1618
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 13: have the best run back duo in the NFL. And

1619
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 13: I think Kevin Savanski, I'm really impressed by him as

1620
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 13: a head coach. You know, is winning attitude that he's

1621
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 13: instilled in these guys. Our goal this week is to

1622
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 13: go one and all. Then we start again, and we

1623
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 13: want to go one and oh again the next week.

1624
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 13: So I kind of like that attitude. So you know,

1625
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 13: you can obviously make a great case for the Kansas

1626
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 13: City Chief sort of the Buffalo Bills. The AFC is

1627
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 13: going to be much tougher than the the NFC this year,

1628
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 13: but I think that Cleveland fits up blueprint, So I'll

1629
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 13: take them. But that week one game Week one, game one,

1630
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 13: here's a staff for you guys. So the Tampa Bay

1631
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 13: Buccaneers are minus seven and a half taking on Dallas

1632
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 13: coming to ten. As we know, Super Bowl winners are

1633
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 13: thirteen to five and two against the spread in their

1634
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 13: first regular season game of the next season, over the

1635
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 13: last twenty years. That's a covering percent, just seventy two.

1636
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 13: So it's gonna be hard to you know, credit to

1637
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 13: you if you're going to take Dallas plus seven and

1638
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 13: a half.

1639
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 5: But you guys know, I like these teasers, right.

1640
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,839
Speaker 13: That was a hotspot for me all of last season,

1641
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 13: and I think we got a good case for a

1642
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 13: same game teaser to take the box dand up minus

1643
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 13: a point and a half and you take the under

1644
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 13: the fifty six and a half. Dallas was a great

1645
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 13: under team on the road last year. I think their

1646
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 13: offense could get off to a slow start in this one.

1647
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 13: Know Dak hasn't been very active in training camp for

1648
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 13: preseason of course, dealing with those injuries. Could see a

1649
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 13: run heavy game plan there. And that Dallas defense, they

1650
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 13: can only get better. They were an absolute disgrace last year.

1651
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 13: They got Dan Quinn, who was a bit of a

1652
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 13: joke as we know as head coach of Atlanta, But

1653
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,480
Speaker 13: you know his bread and butter was as a defensive

1654
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 13: coordinator with the Seattle Seahawks, right, so so he might

1655
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 13: improve them a little bit. So I like that teaser.

1656
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 13: That's an exclusive. By the way, guys, I haven't even

1657
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 13: done that yet for Odd Cherk.

1658
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 7: So I'm very excited. This all gets me very excited.

1659
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 8: Dan Quinn, by the way, one time brought Bryan Stan

1660
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 8: into Atlanta Falcons practice for a couple of days to

1661
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 8: coach up the boys and work on hammer fishing off

1662
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage for the wide receivers. All right

1663
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 8: at Jtfoz at paper Chaser, Joe, great stuff on the NFL.

1664
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 8: I'd like where you're going with the Cleveland Browns, and

1665
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 8: uh yeah, that gives me a good way to attack

1666
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 8: the Thursday night game because I want to have action

1667
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 8: and I was thinking Dallas and now I'm thinking Teas

1668
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 8: and Tampa down especially with that seventy two percent on

1669
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl Champions Game one.

1670
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 7: All right, my man, well, good stuff.

1671
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 8: We'll see if Derek Brunson cash is for you this weekend,

1672
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 8: and if you want more from the great Joe Osborne,

1673
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 8: Oddshark dot Com is the place to find it. Thank you, brother,

1674
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 8: have a great week one and we will talk to

1675
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 8: you obviously in advance of UFC two sixty six later

1676
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 8: next month.

1677
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 13: Awesome, guys, We'll be in touch. Good luck to you

1678
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 13: and good luck to all the listeners out there.

1679
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 7: Thank you. Brother there he is. He likes the Dolphins,

1680
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 7: you know, he's a Dolphins fan.

1681
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 8: I just think they ride to a pretty hard on

1682
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 8: the local airwaves down here.

1683
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 7: Ken Flow. So when do you get to see your children?

1684
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 7: When you gets to your kids?

1685
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, in a few days, a few more days.

1686
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 7: All right, I believe almost there.

1687
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Speaker 8: All right, Well, we wish you all the best finishing

1688
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Speaker 8: up with BattleBots.

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Speaker 8: Eastern for the first frelim. Thanks to our guests Ray Longo,

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Speaker 8: Ian Parker, Joe Osborne. Our executive producer is Cody merrow

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Speaker 8: Ken Flow finished strong out there, Buddy, almost home for

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