1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: Welcome through Wednesday edition of Texans All Access, Getting ready. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: For the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Appreciate you being here with Mae John Harris Football on 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: a sideline reporter and Man, we have a lot for. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: You this evening. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: We've got Nick Cassario, we have got Wade Smith oll 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: later in the show with Little Texans Ogs with our 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: good buddy Indie Clue. We got West Durham play by 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: play voice of the Atlanta Falcons. We've got oh Man, 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: wait for this one, Will Anderson Junior who did his 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: very first deep slant interview, and a little Birdie told 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: me that Will Anderson actually sings Adele. I'm not saying 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: who said it to me, but DPCI who told me 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: that at the studio today, So I'm taking her at 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: her word. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: And then il in the lab with Judori and myself. 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: So we've got plenty to do, Man, a lot to 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: do on this Wednesday night show. But we kick off 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: each and every Wednesday with the general manager of your 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Houston Texans. 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: That's Nick Cassio. 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: And stick around for a question that Mark asked about 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: what television show Nick watched growing up and trust me, 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: it gave me chills. 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why in a little bit. Here's Nick 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: with me, Mark and John. 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: I guess now in the hun Day Texans Radio Studio 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: Executive vice president and general manager Nick Cassario, Nick, how's 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: it going. 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 4: Jan's good to be here. 32 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: Well, congratulations on the victory and it really was special 33 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: to see the Texans come out so strong against the Steelers, 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: a day where JJ watkos and the Ring of Honor 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: and a thirty point output. 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: What were your impressions of the. 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 5: Day, Nick, Yeah, it was probably a good day for 38 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: everybody involved. I think the most important thing is we 39 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 5: played good football. So anytime you play good football, there's 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: kind of a trickle down effect. I think the halftime 41 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 5: ceremony really the whole weekend for JJ, you know, is 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: well deserved. There's a lot and hopefully he was happy 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: with the result and happy with the outcome from a 44 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: team standpoint. The big thing is we were able to 45 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: go off to a fast start, so we're able to 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: take the ball on the field and score what you 47 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: haven't done over the first three games. So got off 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: to a good start, a gain a little bit momentum, 49 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: you know, played well defensively. You know, in the first half, 50 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 5: you know, we're up thirteen to nothing, and then we're 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: able to execute there at the end of the first 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: half kick the field go up sixteen nothing, so against 53 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: a good Pittsburgh team. So I think being able to 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 5: get off in a good start, off to a good 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: start was key to the game. It was good atmosphere. 56 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: You know, the Steelers had a lot of fans, but 57 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 5: there was a lot of Texans fans in the in 58 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: the stadium as well. So overall, I think we're pleased 59 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: with the performance celebrated on Monday, and time move on 60 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: and get ready for Atlanta, which we'll talk about here 61 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: in a little bit. 62 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Nick Nico Collins says been. I mean, he's been really 63 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: good this year. There's no doubt. I want to go back, 64 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: if you don't mind, to his draft evaluation because he 65 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: doesn't play in twenty twenty. The co COVID thing with 66 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: the Big ten was all jacked up, and by that 67 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: point when he had already decided I'm out. So he 68 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: doesn't play in twenty twenty. He does go to the 69 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl for a few days for a week. What'd 70 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: you see a Nico back then? And how much trust 71 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: did you have to kind of put in what you 72 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: saw before COVID because he obviously didn't see him during COVID. 73 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 74 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: No, it's a great point. So I'd say the player 75 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 5: evaluation sometimes is going to be specific to the individual player, 76 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: and you really can't control the circumstance. The only control 77 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: of the things that you see on tape. As you 78 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: alluded to, he had a good season there the prior 79 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: to the COVID year, so you saw some things from 80 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 5: a size he was athletic for his size. When he 81 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: showed up to the Senior Bowl, candilely, he was probably 82 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: a little bit heavy, a little bit overweight. So I 83 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: think from the time he was drafted until now, he's 84 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: put in a lot of very diligent work kind of 85 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: reshaped his body. He's in good condition, he's strong. The 86 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: things that we've asked him to improve, he's improved. Probably 87 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: where he's made the biggest jump is just to run 88 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: after catch. I think a lot of that is the 89 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: way that Bobby and the offensive staff coach running with 90 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: the ball after the catch. There's certain techniques that are involved, 91 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: and I think he's embraced that. I mean, you're talking 92 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: about a guy six and twenty pounds. Sometimes it's a 93 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 5: confidence thing, like just play to your play with conviction, 94 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: don't kind of pitter your feet catch a ball and 95 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: get vertical and make it hard for the defense to 96 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: tackle you. And I think you're starting to see the 97 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 5: fruits of some of that labor that Nico has put in. 98 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: But going back to the evaluation, you try not to 99 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 5: put too much stock in whether it's just a senior bow. 100 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: If you go based off of that, it could skew 101 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: your evaluation. It's not the same. I'm not saying they're 102 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: the same players, but this was similar to Gronkowski when 103 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: he came out. You know, Rob basically missed a year 104 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: of football. So you have to go off of the 105 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: information you have from the previous year, whatever it is, 106 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: and then put it all together and then just make 107 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: a determination, a decision about how you feel about the player. 108 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: Nick. 109 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: I know there are a lot of answers to this question, 110 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: But to what do you attribute the play of the 111 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: offensive line last couple of weeks, no sacks, all the 112 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: adjustments you've had to make. 113 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: How do you see it? 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say work ethic and coaching. So I think 115 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 5: when the players put the work in on a day 116 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: to day basis, take a lot of pride in what 117 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: they're doing. You know, frankly, they probably have heard the 118 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 5: noise or negativity so maybe surrounding their place. So I 119 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: think that at times there's a certain pride element that's 120 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: involved as well. And you have a challenge on the 121 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: other side of the ball that we were facing relative 122 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: to high Smith and TJ who arguably to the best 123 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: edge rushers in the league. And I think what coach 124 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 5: Strausser and Cole have done with that group, and I 125 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 5: think just staying kind of consistent, and I think we've 126 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: adopted the mantra of mindset. Demiko and I talked quite 127 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: a bit about this. Just figured out to make it 128 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: work because that's the NFL, So we're not going to 129 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: make excuses. Whoever is available to us, try to make 130 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: the best decision, put the players on the field that 131 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: are available to us, and go out there and try 132 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: to play good football and just have confidence in your teammate, 133 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: have confidence in one another, have confidence in your training, 134 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: and then go out there and try to perform to 135 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: the best of your ability, because that's all any of 136 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: us can ask of any of our players. 137 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: Nick the rookie class has best performed very very well. 138 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: I think a guy that gets lost it in a 139 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: little bit is deal important. But when he's on the field, 140 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: he's been making plays. What did you see in him 141 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: come out of TCU and what have you seen in 142 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the growth of him the last few weeks in particular. 143 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, typically take eight or nine defensive line to the game. 144 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: They're all going to play. They're all gonna be on 145 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: the field. Dylan missed a pocket a training camp there. 146 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: He was out for a few days. I think what 147 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 5: you're seeing, and Dimiko has talked about this with players, 148 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: you've just seeing improvement. So is the player improving from 149 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: where they started to where they are now. Dylan played 150 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: a lot of good football at TCU. I think he 151 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: sort of reshaped and modified his body. There was a 152 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: lot of weight fluctuations when he was at TCU. He 153 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: was asked to do certain things. I think he's embraced 154 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: the techniques and he's braced the fundamentals and a coaching 155 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: that you know, we've asked of him. So each week 156 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 5: he gets incrementally better. Think the play on the wide 157 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: screen there the other day was a very aware instinctive play. 158 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 5: You know, it could have been a big play, but 159 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: something that we wrapped, we worked during the course of 160 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 5: the week. We knew this was a screen team. It's 161 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: you know, to be able to make that play, to 162 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: be able to kind of see the formation, see the 163 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: adjust see how it was being blocked, and then react. 164 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: You know, certainly big play in a game. And I 165 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: think one of the things that you've seen from the 166 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 5: defensive line, it's all with Ranks, all Dylan at different points, 167 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: is their ability to run out of the stack, turn 168 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: and run, which goes back to the mindset and a 169 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: swarm mentality that we've kind of built into the defense 170 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: that Demko believes in strongly. 171 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: I asked coach about this about the Bama backers, Right, 172 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: you have Christian Harris and you have Henry, and those 173 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: guys are like brothers, their siblings, if you will, making tackles, 174 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: making stops, and Johnny was raving about Henry stopping the 175 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: back of the end zone on Pickens. 176 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: Can you talk about that stuff? 177 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean specifically, that play is very instinctive play. 178 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: We were in a coverage where they created a matchup, 179 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: you know, where the receiver was going to be on 180 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: the linebacker. You know, Henry got himself in good position, 181 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: kind of played through the hands there and finished the play. 182 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: I think, you know, Dimiko talks a lot about finishing, 183 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: and that was very a great example of that because 184 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: Pickens actually had his hands in the ball, Henry kind 185 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 5: of continued to play and then when he hit the 186 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: ground the ball popped out. But we've seen this from 187 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: spring to training camp. Henry's a very instinctive player, kind 188 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: of had an understanding of what they were going to 189 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: do on that play and he went out there and 190 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: made a play. But I think those two players have 191 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: certainly improved. Christians certainly made improvements. Even going back to 192 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: last season. He was out the first four or five games, 193 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: so he was injured, you know, and those a little 194 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 5: bit up and down with him. But I think he's 195 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: made some incremental progress as well. And we've talked about 196 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: this from week one to week four. You just want 197 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 5: to see hopefully improvement in your team, both individually and collectively, 198 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: and you're starting to see that across positions and specific 199 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: to those two players that you just mentioned. 200 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: Nick, You've been around a lot of teams throughout your career, 201 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: a lot of different iterations of Patriots teams, different nerations 202 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: of Texans teams. So it's kind of a strange question 203 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: in some sense. But what does confidence do for a team? 204 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: Because it feels like the team that we saw on 205 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Sunday was playing with a lot of confidence coming off 206 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: that win against Jacksonville, and I would imagine having a 207 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: lot more confidence coming out of this win against Pittsburgh. 208 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: Confidence do for a team, but also there's a fine 209 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: line of confidence can't turn into cockiness as well. 210 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the reality is about mindset and it's 211 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 5: about belief. So do you believe in what is in 212 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: front of us? Do you believe you can go out 213 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: there and win? That's a big part of it. So 214 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 5: it's about what your mindset and then during the course 215 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 5: of the week, are you doing the things that are 216 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 5: conducive to winning. So and when when you go out 217 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: there and you see sort of the fruits of your 218 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 5: labor manifest themselves in the result, then I think that 219 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: builds confidence just collectively as a group, if we do 220 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: the right things, if we go out there and play 221 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: the way we're supposed to play, then it's going to 222 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: lead to hopefully good results. So we played that game, 223 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: specifically against Pittsburgh the right way. We didn't turn the 224 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: ball over. We had to av We talked about this 225 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 5: at the end of the pregame about having the advantage 226 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: in the running game. We had the advantage in the 227 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: running game, didn't turn the ball over, played better in 228 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 5: the red area, and so as a result, you know, 229 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 5: we you know, won a football game. So I think 230 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: it's just belief is never wavered. But I think when 231 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: you see it manifest itself and positive results, the players 232 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: understand what's going on. The players are aware of what's 233 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: happening on the field. They believe in each other. They 234 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 5: have a lot of confidence in each other when they're 235 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: on a field. Sometimes the ball is going to bounce 236 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: the way that you wanted to bounce. But it's about 237 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 5: the work that you do during the course of the 238 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 5: week and already prepared to go out there and play 239 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 5: a good football game against a good football team. Don't 240 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 5: really necessarily get don't worry about what the result is 241 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 5: going to be. Focus on the process that's going to 242 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: lead to those results. And if you do the right 243 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: things and you have a chance. If you don't, then 244 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: you're probably going to make it a little more difficult 245 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 5: on you to win the football game. 246 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: You mentioned running the football better. We talk about this 247 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: every week, but again, another big step forward in the 248 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: running game. And what was going through your mind when 249 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: Devin Singletary is rolling to the right and oh, my goodness, 250 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: he's going to throw it. 251 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 252 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: We practice that play a few times during the course 253 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: of the week, Frankly, and I think a couple of 254 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 5: guys had mentioned it didn't look great. But it goes 255 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: back to what we just talked about, just having confidence 256 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 5: that you trust your teammate, your trust he's going to 257 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: do the right thing, Trust that Devon's going to make 258 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: the right decision. That drive the way it was set up, 259 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: and we shoot some time off the clock, and Bobby 260 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 5: felt confident in the call and he made the call 261 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: and it was just two football players making a football play. 262 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 5: So I mean Motors a good football player. Mode has 263 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: been a good football player as long as been the 264 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 5: League's been a good football player since he walked in 265 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: the building. We have a lot of confidence with Motors 266 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: on the field, and Motor had confidence and Dalton that 267 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: he was going to make the catch, and we had 268 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: confidence that Motor was going to make the right decision 269 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: because if they take it to play it well, play away, 270 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: then you're just going to go after keep the ball 271 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: and he'll run it out or just you know, make 272 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: it right to make it make a good decision or 273 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: tough to do for a running back, right, Well, it's 274 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: just split second decision. So you have to see wars 275 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 5: of defense. You know, Peterson kind of you know, he 276 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: took a step forwards or a little bit of space. 277 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 5: Fitzpastcher was late coming over, so he was actually able 278 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 5: to put it in a position and there's a little 279 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 5: bit of space. So as a well executed play. 280 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: When you give a guy that doesn't throw the ball 281 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: the opportunity to throw the ball, he's throwing that sucking 282 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: and throwing it. 283 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: There's no doubt he's. 284 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: Doing and he's going to be asking for the next 285 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: time to throw the back. 286 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: There's no question. 287 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Okay, this one's behind us before Sunday go to the 288 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: Atlanta take on the Falcons. It's NFC team, so it's 289 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: not one we see a lot. But Dimico brought up 290 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: a great point. He faced them last year when he 291 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: was with San Francisco, so that does help. But let's 292 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: dive into it. Bijon Pits London, a lot of great 293 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: athletes offensively, aj Terrell, Greg Jarrett's gonna Scott Report and. 294 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 5: Nicking the Falcons. Yeah, a good football team. You know, 295 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: they're kind of the inverse of the Texans this year. 296 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: So they started two and Oho lost the last two. 297 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 5: We lost the first two and won the last two. 298 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: So a good football team. They have a lot of young, 299 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: explosive players. Arthur has done a good job and Terry. 300 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: They've done a good job of kind of putting together 301 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 5: a good football team. That kind of made them change 302 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: last year. I want to say week twelve thirteen, whatever 303 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: it was when they answered a Desmond in the line 304 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: up a quarterback. Offensively, they have a lot of I 305 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 5: would say hybrid, very versatile players. You Bon Bijon is 306 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 5: a really good football player, does a lot of things. 307 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: He can run, he can catch, he's explosive. He and 308 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 5: Tyler are a good compliment to one another. I mean 309 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: Tyler ran for a thousand yards last year. So the 310 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: good one two punch CPS on his way back. Cep 311 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 5: didn't play the first three games. CEP's got a really 312 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: unique sort of background, but a lot of hybrid players 313 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: Pits is a tight end, but he's really a receiver. 314 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: Drake's a big receiver. He can do a lot of 315 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: different things. They have a good offensive line, so they've 316 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: played well at moment at times. The games that they've struggled, 317 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: they've turned the ball over. So it goes back to 318 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 5: the correlation between taking care of football and winning and losing. 319 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 5: And defensively, let's say a little bit different than Pittsburgh 320 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: relative to where the problems lie. Say, Anyamada and and 321 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 5: Grady Jarrett present a lot of problems inside. They have 322 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: good edge rushers, but jareded and Ayamada are involved in 323 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: a lot of the negative plays. Anderson just want and 324 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: I are the kid they took from Montana State, you know, 325 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. But they brought over some 326 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: players that have experience in the New Orleans sort of 327 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 5: system or defense. So ellis you know Anyamada had played 328 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 5: for coach Nielsen, So defensively it's kind of coach Nielsen. 329 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 6: Jerry Gray is. 330 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: Involved, but good front. And then you mentioned the secondary. 331 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 7: A j. 332 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: Terrell is probably one of the better corners in the league, 333 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: has gotten continually better. He shadowed really there the other 334 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: day they signed Baits, who's one of the best free 335 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: safeties and one of the best safeties who creates a 336 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: lot of negative plays. So they made a lot of 337 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: they committed a lot of resources in the offseason defensively, 338 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: and they I think they've given up I don't know, 339 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: fifteen sixteen seventeen points a game. You know, they're playing 340 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: good on defense. They tax sha. The coverage is really 341 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: it's it's man, but it's not. It's all matts. So 342 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: they make it hard on the offense and they make 343 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 5: you execute plays. And offensively, they have players that are 344 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: capable of making explosive plays and they're pretty solid in 345 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: the kicking games. 346 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: So you mentioned it. 347 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: This is a team that the AFC excume, the NFC 348 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: South only see him once every four years, and then 349 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 5: we're going to see in the next you know, four 350 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: weeks in a row. Demiko and Bobby kind of have 351 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: experienced playing them a little bit, so you kind of 352 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: go back to that. But it's a good young team 353 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: with a lot of good players. You have to play 354 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: the right way in order to have success against them. 355 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: On Sunday next zooming out, they played in London. They're 356 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: gonna play that next week. Didn't want to buy. Some 357 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: teams like to buy, some teams don't like the buy. 358 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: Following an international trip, at some point, the Texans will 359 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: do this again. But what are your thoughts on that 360 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: in general and how to handle those things. 361 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's could go either way. So we've been a 362 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: part of teams where we've done it both ways, where 363 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 5: you've practiced the whole week, go out there on Friday, 364 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: you know, have a normal Saturday, play the games Sunday, 365 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 5: and come back also going out there a few days 366 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: ahead of time, so it's really more on the back 367 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 5: end coming back Monday. There's a little bit more of 368 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 5: a Monday off mindset and mentality in the league. So 369 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: losing Monday, wouldn't say is necessarily a big deal than 370 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 5: Tuesday's the off day. Then you're kind of into a 371 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 5: normal Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for your operation. So just logistically 372 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: you have to figure out what makes the most sense. 373 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: Do you have the bye week on the other end 374 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: of it or do you not. So it's about being 375 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: flexible and kind of adapting to the circumstances. But regardless 376 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 5: of you know, what Atlanta went through, they'll be ready 377 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 5: to go when we go down here on Sunday. 378 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Nick, I know that Desmond had some struggles against Jacksonville 379 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: through pick six. 380 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: That was tough. 381 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: But what have you seen overall from Desmond from time 382 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: he got in the league until now. 383 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: What kind of growth have you seen from Desbert? 384 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: Ye, he's done a good job. I mean, if you 385 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: take the Jacksonville game out of it, he's really made 386 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 5: sound decision, a good decision with the football. He's taking 387 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: care of the football. He's athletic. I wouldn't necessarily call 388 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: him a running quarterback, but he's athletic for the position. 389 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: He can make some place off schedule. But Desmond had 390 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: a lot of experience and he's a four year starter, 391 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: which you don't really see that much in college football, 392 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: won a lot of football games. I would say that 393 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: program was built and developed over time what coach Fickle 394 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: did so and then when he had an opportunity to 395 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: play there at the end of the last season, you know, 396 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 5: he played well. So he's had his moments here this 397 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 5: season as well. So say Jacksonville. You know, the game 398 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: was a result of turnovers, so two interceptions, lost fumble, 399 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 5: then that translated into them ended up unfortunately losing the 400 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 5: game from their perspective. But good young player has some 401 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: good athletic attributes, typically makes good decisions with the football 402 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 5: and can make some plays with his feet. 403 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: Nick, You've had some guys hurt, some guys coming back 404 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: and they continue to come back. How hard are some 405 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: of these decisions you have to make with the roster 406 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: And how much has it helped over the last decade 407 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: to have the flexibility of expanded practice squad ir flexibility 408 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: and all of that. 409 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark, it's truly. I think it's benefited everybody. It 410 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: benefits the players. And then from a team standpoint, you 411 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 5: just have to sort of take the information and just 412 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: kind of build a strategy accordingly. So I think what 413 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: you're trying to figure out the most or those players 414 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: in the shorter term duration that two to four week window, 415 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 5: all right, you sometimes have to make a call. Maybe 416 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 5: you say, look, we're just gonna put them aside for 417 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 5: four weeks. That might be the best thing for the player. 418 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 5: And then after four weeks bring them back or could 419 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: they come back If it's really it can come back 420 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: maybe week two, week three, then you. 421 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: Have a decision. 422 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 5: But otherwise this is where if you can build a 423 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 5: depth of your team you feel comfortable with the players 424 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: that you might have to use. You understand you're gonna 425 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: have to utilize everybody at some point. But the most 426 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 5: important thing is the health of the players. So giving 427 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 5: them the best opportunity to get themselves mentally and physically 428 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 5: prepared for football, you know, that's a big part of it. 429 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: And then whenever the practice clerk practice clock starts, then 430 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 5: they got to get back into sort of football shape 431 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: and football conditions. So we'll kind of take it one 432 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 5: day at a time. We'll see how practice goes this week, 433 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: and then we'll make a decision, you know, when it's 434 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: appropriate about when those players are available. 435 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: A scale of one to ten, How envious are you 436 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: that the Falcons got to play in Andy's room and 437 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: the Texans have not gotten to play in Andy's room. 438 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: Toy Story I don't even know. 439 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 6: I was going. 440 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: Over my head. You know, the movie toys. 441 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, don't ask me about movies. We've talked about that. 442 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: I know I missed that one. It was pretty awesome 443 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: how they how they did it. They took the they 444 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: basically to go the geo tracking and everything and turning 445 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: them into toy story figures and played the game from Atlanta, Jacksonville. 446 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: I'll stick to normal football though, now that we're going 447 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: to subject, give us a show or two that you 448 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: liked when you were a little kid. Oh, bowing up. 449 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: You watch this because you liked it? What was a Transformer? 450 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 8: You? 451 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 5: Actually, I'm parking embarrassed myself, but that's okay. 452 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 9: We embarrass our stuff on a daily basis. 453 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 5: I actually was a Saved by the Bell here we go. Hell, yes, yeah, 454 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: I'd say that was one. You have not gone my 455 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 5: rank Rickie Schroeder silver spoons. So those are the couple 456 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: i'd say sort of that I may have watched time 457 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: to time. 458 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go now and that I can't 459 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: believe you just said saved by the bell. You are 460 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: You're like, you're high in my rankings, but you I mean, 461 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: you just went up. 462 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: That's huge. 463 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: That's one of my just said that to Josh the 464 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: other day. It was like, say by, say by the 465 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: Bell was one of my favorites growing up. 466 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: Zach Morris, yep, absolutely screech Okay, Nick, thanks a lot, 467 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: good luck, Thanks. 468 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Guys, all right, great stuff there from Nick Cassario, and 469 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: I gotta say Mark and I were very good as well, 470 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: so let's make sure we get that clear. One of 471 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: the things Mark that stood out when he was talking 472 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: about the Falcons, well. 473 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: I thought you were going to ring up Saved by 474 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: the Bell. 475 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: Oh. 476 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 9: I love that, you know that. 477 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm still buzzing from that because that's I don't know why. 478 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite shows too. I love that show. 479 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Berkeley started talking about show Girls Gonna go off 480 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: the rails very quickly. 481 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly Kapowski is still My wife is in Los Angeles, right, 482 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: She's in Los Angeles still. 483 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of weeks she'll be here. But I 484 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 4: could say this. 485 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Kelly Kapowski was like, yeah, absolutely she was. 486 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 9: She was the original crush for me. She was gorgeous. 487 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: Tiff the Amber Theesen was her name that she went 488 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: to and it was even more so. But either way, 489 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: we'll keep that aside. He was talking about he's talking 490 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: about the Falcons, and he mentioned one thing that I've 491 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: always been a big fan of, but always on defense, 492 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: but positionless football, off fence version. 493 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I feel like that's the Falcons. 494 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: And with Bjon Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Patterson, I 495 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: feel like they've got guys that well, is that guy 496 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: a receiver? Is that guy tight End's that eleven personnel? 497 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: Is that twelve personnel? That's one of the things that 498 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: kind of messes with in some sense is how do 499 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: you try and match personnel groups to what they have. Oh, 500 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: they're in twenty one personnel. We're going to put our 501 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: base defense out on the field. Oh that's eleven personnel. 502 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: Let's get our nickel or our subpackage out on the field. 503 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: I feel like that could be one of the things 504 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: that's the most difficult in preparing for these guys. 505 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, it's always difficult when you have a lot of 506 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: teams do this. The Texans do this. You put a 507 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: wide receiver in the backfield. Right, put a receiver in 508 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: the backfield, looks like a running back. Oh wait a minute, 509 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: it's Tank Dell or something like that. Right, you hand 510 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: off the TANKDLL out of orbit motion something like that. 511 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: We see it all over the place with tight ends, 512 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: because there are a lot of tight ends who, let's 513 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 3: admit it, are Yeah they're a tight end, but they're 514 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: kind of really a receiver and they can block a 515 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: little bit as well. They're big dudes, but they're not. 516 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: They're not Quittriano type tight ends. So I think that 517 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: it's an interesting thing to talk about. I think you 518 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: can do a lot with running backs as receivers. We 519 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: talk about receivers in the backfield, what about running backs 520 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: as receivers, getting about why we see it all the 521 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: time with empty backfield, Pierce motions out, he sets up 522 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: in the slot, and by the way, Johnny, I think 523 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: that as much as they've used it, which isn't a ton, 524 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: but they've used it, they've spread the ball around. Nobody 525 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: can complain about the versatility of the variety in the 526 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: offense so far. But I still think there's a lot 527 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: of stuff that they can do with Damian Pierce, and 528 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: they will do with Damian Pierce as the season progresses 529 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: here as a receiver. 530 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: I think the same for Devin. I think the same 531 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: for Damien. I think there's more there for Dalton Schultz too. 532 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: I think one of the things about getting Lineman back 533 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: this week and hopefully Larami's ready to go, Hopefully Titus 534 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: is ready to go. They were both at practice today 535 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: and practicing now again we see a small part of it, 536 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: so it could have been limited, could have been just 537 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, a small piece, but they were at least 538 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: out there. 539 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: That was good. So if you start to. 540 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: Get those guys back, then maybe you don't have to 541 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: use Dalton Schultz to chip all the time or to 542 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: double He could just go right to his route, you know, 543 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: same with brev And and Tiguan as well. 544 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: But that worked. 545 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: Against the Steelers to use the tight ends and you 546 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: didn't lose much in the passing game. But I think 547 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: you can add to the passing game by having those 548 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: guys back that you're like, Okay, we don't feel like 549 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: we got to help Laramie. 550 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: Larimy is on his own island. 551 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: He can handle who's ever out there, you know, who's 552 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: ever playing on the inside, whatever, wherever Titus is playing, 553 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: whether it's tackle, he can be out there on his own. 554 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: You could trust all of that. 555 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: George, George fan does not get enough credit for what 556 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: he did against the Steelers and t J. 557 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: Watt. 558 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 9: He played a wonderful game. 559 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: And I think you know Steelers fans, but well, yeah, 560 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: he had double teams and chips all the time. He 561 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: had a few, he had a few, but he handled 562 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 2: it on his own. And I think that was one 563 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: of the things that was so I would saying lightning, 564 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: but was great to see that. 565 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: Man. 566 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: You got maybe with guys coming back, you maybe now 567 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: have some depth on the offensive line, but I think 568 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: that part could open things up for the tight ends, 569 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: which now makes you even more dangerous if you start 570 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: adding in. You know, Dalton had three catches the other day. 571 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: He started getting him to he's five or six because 572 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: he's getting the best matchup. You know, he's beating linebackers. 573 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: I mean the throat on the team. He had to 574 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: beat Landy Roberts. He gave him little hesitation, went up 575 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: to seehim. CJ threw him a dot and he caught it. 576 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Big play. Maybe those things start to happen when you 577 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: get some of these guys back. But I'm with you, 578 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: I feel like the offense has layers that they even 579 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: thought about peeling back yet. 580 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because look what we saw in game four 581 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: versus Game three, by versus game two, and it grows 582 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: every week, and I think they're finding it enjoyable to 583 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: an experiment with new stuff and see what they can do. 584 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: You know, one of the things that O'Brien said when 585 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: Watson got hard was, man, he was so much fun 586 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: to coach that year, right, And we talked about that 587 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: year that he used a lot of Clemson stuff and 588 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: they seem to get away with that or from that 589 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: when he came back the following year. But that's another topic. 590 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: But I bring it up because the fun to coach 591 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: thing when you have a young pupil or young pupils 592 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: like this as a teacher like Bobby Slowick does, and 593 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: they're taken to it and executing. Everybody's working together to 594 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: do the next fun thing, and how else can we 595 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: be more explosive? 596 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: Like Damian Pierce said the other day that they. 597 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: Feel like they can be even more explosive, more effective 598 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: on offense. So let's see what they got. We're all 599 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: here for it, and so far it's working really well. 600 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: And you know, Johnny, the other thing is this, we 601 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: can talk about creativity all. You want to see Pierce 602 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: do some of the things he did against the Steelers, 603 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: the Damien Pierce that we saw last year. You put 604 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: that kind of production and that kind of punishing running 605 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: style which he displayed on Sunday, and more of that, 606 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: more production that way, in eddition to this passing attack, 607 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna score a lot of points. Because as much 608 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: as you know, you could talk about the Falcons and 609 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: what they can do to you, and you were just 610 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 3: mentioning some of their weapons and positionless players and all 611 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: of that. Hey, if you just keep scoring, they can't 612 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: touch you. And I think this team feels like that. 613 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: And I know I said a little cocky when I 614 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: say that, but I believe that they can move the 615 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: ball in a lot of squads in this league, right. 616 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: You know, it's starting to emerge from me, And I've 617 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: said this before. I think a team's greatness is measured 618 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: by how many different ways they can beat you. Like, 619 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: is that a team that you go out there and, Okay, 620 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: the defense can shut you down and win a game 621 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: that way? They can win a nine to six game, 622 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: is that one in which the offense can win a shootout? 623 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: A thirty eight thirty five game? And it was funny, 624 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: it sort of crystallized for me when I was watching 625 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: America's game a long time ago with the doing the 626 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Patriots in two thousand and three, and I remember Charlie 627 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Weiss was talking about that. He said, we could win 628 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: a ninety three game, we could win a thirty eight 629 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: thirty seven game. We could win a game that went 630 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: back and forth. We could win games that we came 631 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: from behind. That's the parcels way too. Yes, many if 632 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: you can have multiple ways of winning a game, like hey, 633 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: offense not quite feeling it today, but the defense is 634 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: keeping you in the game for a long time because 635 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: that's the unit you have over there. 636 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 9: The more ways that you have to win games, the better. 637 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's starting to really kind of 638 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: emerge for this team, especially getting the running game going 639 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: the other day, Like, okay, could there be a game 640 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: in which man, you pound for one hundred and forty 641 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty yards on the ground and they're 642 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: just not stopping you and you just keep handing it 643 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: off because your identity that day is to just ground. 644 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: Them into submission. 645 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: And maybe there's gonna a day where they're loading the 646 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: box with eight saying, you know what, all right, rookie 647 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: beat us, and then sett has to and he's done 648 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: it already and he'll do it again. 649 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: So I like the fact that there. 650 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: Are multiple ways for the Texans to go about winning games. 651 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: And to that point, then to your point about getting 652 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: cocky getting confident, you know, there's there's definitely a fine line. 653 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: But what we've seen the last couple of weeks has 654 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: giving us the opportunity to be confident, like, man, we 655 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: did that and we didn't have all of our healthy guys. Yeah, 656 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: we did that on defense and we still were missing 657 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: a couple of key guys. Man, what can we do 658 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: get everybody healthier? What can we do get a lot 659 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: of guys healthy? What can we do when they've got experience? 660 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: Or when Nico feels like he can't be stopped, what 661 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: more can he do? So it's gonna be a tough test, 662 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: especially against the SA Atlanta defense. 663 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: The s Atlanta defense has got some dudes. Yeah, they 664 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: got dudes on that defense society. 665 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: They don't give up much, especially in the passing game, 666 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: and that worries me a little bit because you got 667 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: aj Trail back there, you got Jesse Bates, You got 668 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: some dudes in that secondary and that does that does 669 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: worry me. You got Jeff Fakuda who came over from 670 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: the Lions. He was the number three overall pick a 671 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: few years ago, and you know he's just getting back 672 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: in after being injured. But the Atlanta Falcons defense is 673 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: gonna be no joke on Sunday you. 674 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: Know, I think about the last two games and I 675 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: wonder what would have happened if Andrew Beck doesn't return 676 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: the kickoff for a TV And what would have happened 677 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: if the Steelers made that fourth down? 678 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: Right? 679 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Do they score? Does that put extra pressure on your offense? 680 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: How do they respond? You're gonna have situations like that, 681 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, as we enjoy this two game winning streak, 682 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: want to add it to a three game winning streak 683 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: and go on from there, and they're gonna have situations where, yeah, 684 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 3: they do get closer, they get really close, or maybe 685 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: you're behind and you have to win a game that way. 686 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna see it's all gonna unfold. Like we saw 687 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: during the team record nine game winning streak in twenty eighteen, 688 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: they had to win games in a variety of ways. 689 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Let's see if they can do it with this budge 690 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: and keep this thing going. It's the start of something. 691 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: Let's see it turn into something really special. 692 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: One key guy in all of this is the number 693 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: three overall pick. Yeah, the Texas gave up a lot 694 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: to go get their Lamborghini, but they got him the terminator. 695 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior sits down with dpcity and a little 696 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: Birdie told me that she got him to sing. 697 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 9: I can't wait for this. That's next on Texans All Access. 698 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: Wealking Back this Wednesday is of Texans All Access from 699 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: Monday Texans Radio Studio. 700 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris. 701 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: Football Analyst, sideline reporter, and it's time for our Deep 702 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: Slant Interview of the Week, brought to you by Infinity. 703 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Deepcity sits down this week with Will Anderson Junior. 704 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss this. Take a listen. 705 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 10: It's a deep sent one one presented by Exfinity. 706 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 11: Our guest this week, Will Anderson, number three overall pick, 707 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 11: got the first quarter of the season under your belt. 708 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 10: First of all, how are you doing. How's it going. 709 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 12: I'm doing good. It's going great. Thank you for having me. 710 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 12: I appreciate you. But it's been a blessing. It's been 711 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 12: fun so far. I'm just ready to see what else 712 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 12: the season hopes for us. 713 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 11: I'm wearing my new Balance shoes. I dug these up 714 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 11: because you've got a new Balance to be repeat, I 715 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 11: was like, I have some new balances. Congrats on that. 716 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 11: I just saw the announcement came out what like a week. 717 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 10: Or two ago. 718 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 11: Yes, okay, So how did that come about? Are you 719 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 11: just like an it's an interesting choice of brands, I 720 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 11: would say. 721 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 12: Well, I'm all about being different, so like I just 722 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 12: feel like, you know, most guys, you know, they go 723 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 12: with Nike or somebody else, and I'm always talking about 724 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 12: going this different route. And also, like New Balance was 725 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 12: on the beliefs and values that I have for you know, 726 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 12: myself and my family and being in the community and 727 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 12: everything like that, and just being innovative, and that's something 728 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 12: that they've been doing really well, you know, just innovating 729 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 12: new things like new fashions, new designs, and I'm all 730 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 12: for so I was really excited to be partners with 731 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 12: them and try to you know, come up with the 732 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 12: cleat and then they like have us like making our 733 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 12: own cleats, own designs on feats and everything like that, 734 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 12: just being hands on. So it's really exciting and really fun. 735 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 11: It's like what's old is new again because I remember 736 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 11: when New Balance was really in. I mean, I'm a 737 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 11: little bit showing my age here and now it's new again. 738 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 11: And you I was reading this great story in The 739 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 11: Athletic about how you're super into thrift store shopping. Yes, 740 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 11: so you do like old is new again. So okay, 741 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 11: so how did you get into thrifting and what do 742 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 11: you think about the thrift scene in Houston? 743 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 744 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 12: So it originally started with my grandmother. Her name was 745 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 12: Betty Child. And at first I just used to go 746 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 12: to like get all the old toys and everything like that. 747 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 12: But then as I got older, I was like on, 748 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 12: like they got some good pieces in here, and then 749 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 12: like me and my friends just used to go all 750 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 12: the time and like get like all types of like 751 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 12: vintace jackets, vintage pants and stuff like that. And what's 752 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 12: really cool is like New Balance their shoes. It goes 753 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 12: perfect with like it does yeah, like boot cut pants 754 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 12: and everything like that, like the bag you look. So 755 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 12: it was really fun and exciting just to you know, 756 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 12: aventu around different like lanes of clothing and different like 757 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 12: lanes of like other brands you know that can connect 758 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 12: with New Balance really well. 759 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 11: Okay, but is it not hard to find your size 760 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 11: in a thrift store? Like sizing is already tricky and 761 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 11: then you're not you know, an average size guy, You're huge, 762 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 11: So how do you find your size? 763 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: So I'll go for the oversized. 764 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 13: Look, okay, I always like try to go over over. 765 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, over oversized, so like it's never really easy to 766 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 12: find like a straight thirty eight, so sometimes I have 767 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 12: to go up to like a forty. 768 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 11: Or forty and you get it taken in. Yeah, okay, 769 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 11: and I and I read that you also take some 770 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 11: of some of your teammates also like thrifting. Who else 771 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 11: do you think is big into that scene? 772 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 773 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 12: All of them? I went with. Who is that I 774 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 12: went with that one day? Dang No, it wasn't one 775 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 12: of my teammates. It was one of my friends that came. 776 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 12: But I know a couple I've seen Sting at one 777 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 12: of the thrift stores that he was there. 778 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 10: He likes m I heard. 779 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: Likes to th J likes to thrift too. 780 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 12: By the time I went was with one of my 781 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 12: friends from back home. But I know, like I've seen 782 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 12: CJ there and CJ, I mean CJ and Steing there 783 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 12: as well. 784 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 10: Which city do you think has got a great thrift 785 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 10: store scene? 786 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: I gotta say Georgia, of course. 787 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 10: Georgia really okay, But Houston. 788 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 12: Has a lot of great thrifting stores here, like Thrifted 789 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 12: Threads is one that you probably read that. H yeah, 790 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 12: that I've been to, but it's some other ones Like 791 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 12: I was like, oh wow, like y'all got a lot 792 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 12: of Vinci stuff in here. I'll be back on one 793 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 12: of these. 794 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 10: Offers really okay, and you find some good stuff. 795 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of great stuff. 796 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 10: So is that what you were on game day? 797 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 11: Or do you buy your stuff? Seems pretty high fashion. 798 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 11: I don't think you're writing those the thrift stores. So 799 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 11: the like what your what's your fashion aesthetic? 800 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 12: Like my fashion aesthetic is just really calm, cool and collected. 801 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 12: I don't really like being really flashy, but I feel 802 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 12: like some some of the old stuff flashy to me, 803 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 12: Like what my flashy is versus what somebody else flashy 804 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 12: is is really different. 805 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: I kind of just like I like cut off shirts 806 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: a lot. 807 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 12: So the outfit that you seen me wear this past Saturday, yeah, 808 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 12: I got like five more shirts. 809 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: Just like that. 810 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 12: And I have some other brands like do you aren't 811 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 12: stuff like that that's cut off too. I mean for me, 812 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 12: it's really just what I feel comfortable in, you know 813 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 12: what I'm saying, Like what I want to wear? 814 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 11: All right, so you look really comfortable showing up to 815 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 11: the game you're obviously very comfortable in the game. Let's 816 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 11: talk about the first few games of this season. I mean, 817 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 11: you blocked a field goal, which is amazing. It seemed 818 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 11: like you could have had two blocked field goals. What 819 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 11: about that? Like Drew Dolerty was in here earlier and 820 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 11: he said, you gotta ask Will did that hurt blocking 821 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 11: the field goal? And I was like, I didn't even 822 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 11: notice what part of your body was it? Your hand, 823 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 11: your wrists? 824 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 10: Like how did you even block it? 825 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 4: Everybody keep saying that it didn't hurt. 826 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 12: Like surprisingly, I thought it was because we were like 827 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 12: coming to like the preparation that whole week. 828 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: We was like, oh, we're going to block a. 829 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 12: Field goal, we know, really and like we didn't, Like 830 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 12: I didn't get my hands on in practice and I 831 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 12: never got my hand on the field. But I was 832 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 12: like the force of this ball. I wonder how it's 833 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 12: gonna feel. And honestly, it just felt like I was 834 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 12: playing volleyball. I just went out there and smacked it down. 835 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 12: But I also think it was like the agenda them too, 836 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 12: so like I probably didn't feel nothing. 837 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 10: You didn't have any bruises or any pain afterwards. 838 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: Oh it was fine. 839 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 10: When did you learn. 840 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 11: That that was a skill set that you had, that 841 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 11: you were able to jump up and block field goals 842 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 11: like that? 843 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 12: It probably started when I used to have to go 844 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 12: practice with my sister's at volleyball practice. 845 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 11: Really okay, so you would try to block their shots 846 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 11: or were you actually playing with them? 847 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 4: I was actually playing with them? It was fine. 848 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay. 849 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 11: And what about just the first four games, Like, have 850 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 11: you had your welcome to the NFL moment? 851 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 10: You've played some pretty big names so far. 852 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, a few times. You know, it's a part of 853 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: the game. 854 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 12: You know, you get a shot here and there, you 855 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 12: know what I'm saying, that somebody block you here and there. 856 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 12: But like, I feel like coach Dimiko does a really 857 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 12: good job with the intensity of practice, making sure that 858 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 12: we're really prepared going into a game, knowing how fast 859 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 12: we need to play, how physical we need to be. 860 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 12: And then plus just being in Alabama, you know, practice 861 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 12: was very physical there. So the transition from Alabama to 862 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 12: the league, it's kind of just it's been like an 863 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 12: easy transition, you know what I'm saying. Like, guys are 864 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 12: way bigger, you know what I'm saying. But the physicality 865 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 12: is always going to be the physicality, you know what 866 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 12: I'm saying. So I just got to give a big 867 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 12: shout out to the coaching staff and plus the players 868 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 12: that we have here that just want to keep getting better. 869 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 12: They want to have the insensity every day in practice 870 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 12: knowing that it's going to make us better on Sunday. 871 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, you were, you were a leader of the locker 872 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 11: room at Alabama. You are a captain. Now you're a 873 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 11: captain here. I wonder what is that like as a 874 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 11: rookie when you're the team. I mean obviously you and c. J. Stroud, 875 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 11: But you know what is it like when you're a 876 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 11: rookie but you're a captain. You're a leader, but yet 877 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 11: you're still kind of young. You know what is that 878 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 11: dynamic like in the locker room? 879 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 4: Man, it's honeastily great, you know what I'm saying. 880 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 12: Like, of course you're a little nervous sometimes he's got 881 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 12: vets that's probably been in the league like ten years. 882 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 12: And then you have a rookie that haven't even played 883 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 12: a snap of football yet, but yet he's a captain. 884 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 12: But I think it's just about the preparation and how 885 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 12: hard you work every day. And when guys see that, 886 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 12: when guys see a humble guy, a guy that works 887 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 12: hard every day, a guy that doesn't complain, that's hungry, 888 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 12: that you know, wants it. You know, I think they 889 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 12: just respect them, you know what I'm saying. So I 890 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 12: think it's just that level of respect in the locker room. 891 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 4: Man. But I see it as like everybody being leaders. 892 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 4: You know that. 893 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, I got to see on my chest, But everybody 894 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 12: leads in a different way, and everybody does a good 895 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 12: job of, you know, making sure that everybody's doing what 896 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 12: they need to do, like holding each other accountable on 897 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 12: one thing, like I said today was like a match 898 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 12: me thing. It's the same thing that we used to 899 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 12: say at Alabama, And like we've been doing a really 900 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 12: good job of just matching each other's energy out on 901 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 12: the field, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody off 902 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 12: of everything. So it's been fun to watch and fun 903 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 12: to be a part of. 904 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 11: One of the first things I learned about you was 905 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 11: that your nickname was the Terminator and that you just 906 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 11: have this like transformation when you're on the field and 907 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 11: like sitting here talking to you, you're just like so chill, 908 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 11: We're just have a crips, are shopping and like all 909 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 11: this fun stuff. But when does that transformation take place 910 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 11: for you? Because I heard you are relentless on the field. 911 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 11: In fact, Amiko Ryan's during Ota said we almost have 912 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 11: to hold Will back like he's so intense. But for 913 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 11: you personally, when does it? When do you go from 914 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 11: this will to that terminator? Is it like what part 915 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 11: of game day gets you into that mindset? 916 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 12: Really, just as soon as it's like that helmet and 917 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 12: show of pass get on. When I walk in and 918 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 12: do it, it's just a switch that goes like it's 919 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 12: business time, you know what I'm saying, Everything that you've 920 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 12: put in through the whole week leading up into this moment, 921 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 12: like it's time to go put on display and go, 922 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 12: you know, go out there and play ball, Go out 923 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 12: there and you know, do your job for you not 924 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 12: only yourself, but for your teammates and for this whole team. 925 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 12: So that's just kind of the switch that gets flipped. 926 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 12: I got to go out there and do a job 927 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 12: not only for me, not only for what I got 928 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 12: going on, but for the dude beside me, because he's 929 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 12: counting on me to do my job and I'm not 930 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 12: gonna go out here and you know, not do my job, 931 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. So that's all the things 932 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 12: that go through my head, like, yeah, I got to 933 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 12: go ball for this duo right here because I know 934 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 12: he's gonna give me everything he got. And that's that 935 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 12: switch that flips for me. 936 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 10: So have you ever met the real terminator? Have you 937 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 10: ever met Arnold Schwartzenegger? 938 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 11: You haven't, okay, but you're You've got his nickname and 939 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 11: you got a chain one selection. I feel like that 940 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 11: has to happen one celebrity that you have met. And 941 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 11: I was super jealous this offseason. You don't what I'm 942 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 11: going to say, you're laughing? Who do you think? I'm 943 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 11: gonna say? 944 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: Adele? 945 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 6: Yes? 946 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 9: All right? 947 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 10: I felt like I don't. 948 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 11: Know who's the I don't know if you're the bigger 949 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 11: Adell fan or she's the bigger wily inner. 950 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 10: It seemed like she was like really a big fan 951 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 10: of yours. At the Lakers game? What happened? How did 952 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 10: you guys meet? 953 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 12: I mean she was just so down to earth, just 954 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 12: great spirits, great energy, She's just an awesome human being. 955 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 12: Like it's you know, like usually like oh well we 956 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 12: don't know celerities, but she was very welcoming. She just 957 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 12: had the biggest smile. 958 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 9: You you went. 959 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 10: Up to her, Yes, and you are a big adel 960 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 10: fan a little. 961 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 4: Bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know a lot of her, so. 962 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, of course, okay, and I set the scene. I 963 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 11: have to know how this happens. Okay, So what happened. 964 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 11: You're at the Lakers game. You guys are court side? 965 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 12: Yes, And I was with the people from my agency 966 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 12: and we walked over there so they can let me 967 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 12: meet a deal. And I went over there to meet 968 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 12: her and like we just started talking, you know, we 969 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 12: was just getting to know each other whatever like that, And. 970 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 10: What did you guys talk about? 971 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 12: We were just talking about like life and stuff like that, 972 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 12: like nothing, like nothing too crazy, just like hey, I'm 973 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 12: will I played for you know, the Texans and everything 974 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 12: like that. And the reason why she was smiling that 975 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 12: hard in the picture actually is because I was thinking 976 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 12: I had right right before that, I had song, like 977 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 12: two songs of hers and yes to. 978 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 13: Her, what did you sing? 979 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 12: I saw Rolling in the Deep and I saw uh 980 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 12: my Little Love or her new album that she just dropped, 981 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 12: and like it just cracked her well, you. 982 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 11: Know, what I'm gonna ask, now, can you You've got 983 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 11: to sing one of those. 984 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 10: I want to know what made her smile so big? 985 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 10: Because I'm obsessed with the Dell. 986 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 11: Well was like I did not know this is where 987 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 11: this was going, just a little bit like I half, 988 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 11: I won't look at you if that makes you lessen. 989 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: Nervous, Okay, rolling in the. 990 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 10: Okay, I'm just so tickled. 991 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 11: Oh that's fantastic. I was so jealous of you, but 992 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 11: so happy for you. I've seen the concerts. She's amazing. 993 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 10: Another guy that you met, JJ watt this past week. 994 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 10: So what was that like? Were you starstruck? Was it? 995 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 10: What was what was it like just meeting him for 996 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 10: the first time? 997 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 12: Well, that wasn't my first time meeting him, Yeah, he's been. 998 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 12: I met JJ a couple of months back when he 999 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 12: was here. Oh okay, and we exchanged well Bert sent 1000 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 12: me his information, yes, and like he's been a great 1001 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 12: mentor for me and whatever I need, like I send 1002 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 12: him clips of film and anything like that. 1003 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: He always helps me with. 1004 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 12: So just having a guy like JJ Watt man, it's 1005 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 12: like I don't take that for granted at all. It 1006 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 12: just goes back to show you like how these people 1007 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 12: are just so down to earth and willing to help. 1008 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 12: I'm just so appreciative because he could be doing anything, 1009 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 12: like he's retired, he could be doing anything he wants 1010 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 12: right now, but like he's spending time talking with me, 1011 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 12: helping me and everything like that. And like he came 1012 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 12: to talk to the team before we had played the Stealers, 1013 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 12: and one thing I really just took away from him 1014 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 12: that was like, don't take this moment for granted. And 1015 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 12: like God has put so many like great blessings in 1016 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 12: my life and great people in my life and surrounded 1017 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 12: me by great men and women in my life, and 1018 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 12: to have somebody like JJ Man, it's just been such 1019 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 12: a blessing because he's an awesome person and I just 1020 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 12: can't thank him enough for everything that he's done for 1021 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 12: me so far. 1022 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 11: I mean, it just seems like yesterday that he was 1023 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 11: starting out in the league. I mean, when I started here, 1024 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 11: he was so young in his career, and to see 1025 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 11: him going up in the Ring of Honor, it's just crazy. 1026 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 11: But he said that he asked you if you had 1027 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 11: any questions for him, and you didn't have any questions 1028 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 11: for him, So do you have you come up with 1029 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 11: your questions. Do you know what you want to ask him? 1030 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 11: Or do you feel like you'll just go play by play. 1031 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 12: No, I've been asking him questions. Yeah, We've been texting it. 1032 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 12: I've been asking him questions about everything. So we good, 1033 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 12: we good. 1034 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: We're good. 1035 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 11: Good now, and then what about Sunday? You guys are 1036 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 11: playing the Falcons. Are you playing some really good rookies 1037 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 11: this year so far? And you have Bijon Robinson coming up. 1038 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 11: I know you guys probably hung out a little bit 1039 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 11: probably throughout the draft process, But what's gonna be the 1040 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 11: big challenge here? You guys got a two game win streak. 1041 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 11: You want to obviously keep that rolling. You know, what 1042 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 11: are the challenges for Sunday's game? 1043 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 12: Honestly, the challenges for us You just stay consistent and 1044 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 12: it's all about us at the end of the day, 1045 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 12: and what we do. 1046 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If we just go out 1047 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 4: there and. 1048 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 12: We do our job and we have great preparation throughout 1049 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 12: the week, we can have the same on Sunday. So 1050 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 12: I think it just falls back on everybody just playing 1051 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,479 Speaker 12: their technique, playing the defense, playing the offense, and going 1052 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 12: out there executing what the coaches. 1053 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 10: Ask us to do all right, can't wait to see it. 1054 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 11: Well, thank you so much, and would you mind signing 1055 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 11: our wall of course? 1056 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 1057 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 11: Yes, there's a sharpie your son. You can sign next 1058 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 11: to Tank or anywhere else. Awesome, Thank you so much. 1059 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 13: Will thank you. 1060 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 10: I appreciate you guy the rest of the season. 1061 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, man. 1062 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: I love that guy. I can't believe he's Houston Texans. 1063 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: So glad and deep situ getting him to sing adele, 1064 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: I mean deep, he's tremendous, but to get him to 1065 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: sing adele, oh, Deep's the absolute best. All Right, we 1066 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 2: get back. Let's thin injury reports go around the NFL quickly. 1067 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: Next on Texans All Access. Yes, sir, it's Wednesday ish 1068 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: of Texas All Access. 1069 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: You had to check the clock to see what day is. Man. 1070 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: The days are flying by, and it tends to happen 1071 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: when you got a football team playing well and you're 1072 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: feeling the momentum and you're getting ready for Wednesday. But 1073 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here with me on Texans All Access. 1074 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: I'm John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter and host of 1075 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: this great program right here on Sports Radio six ten 1076 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: Odyssey app but I appreciate you being you guys being 1077 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: here with me. 1078 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: All right. 1079 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: Injury report, it's kind of lengthy today, but there is 1080 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: some pretty good news because there's some names on here 1081 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 2: that I know I was excited to see back on 1082 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: this list. 1083 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: DMP is not always excited. Now. 1084 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 2: Two of the three were rest related. Jimmy Ward, Robert Woods. 1085 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: They got VET days. 1086 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: MALIEK. Collin's not participat he's dealing with the abdomen issue, 1087 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: so hopefully he's gonna be okay. Limited participants. 1088 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 2: Josh Jones was in a limited capacity, so I was 1089 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: good we saw him practice. He's got a cast on 1090 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 2: that hand. Shaq Mason deal with ankle. Steven Nelson was 1091 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: limited VET trend rest day. By the way, if you 1092 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: want to check out my quick tel straight you go 1093 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: check out my Twitter page, X page, whatever you call it. 1094 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 2: At you Harris Football, and I did a quick, quick 1095 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: and dirty illustrator showing you how great of a play 1096 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: that was by Steven Nelson on Sunday against the Steelers. 1097 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: Damian Pierce and Laramie Tunsall will both with these. 1098 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: But it was good to see. 1099 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 2: Laramie back at practice today obviously, so hopefully we're moving 1100 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: towards a situation where they're gonna be ready to play 1101 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 2: full participants. 1102 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: Michael Dieter back deal with a chess. 1103 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 2: But how about this, Titus Howard back full, Cameron Johnston 1104 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: back full, Denzel Perriman back in full, Tavier Thomas back 1105 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 2: in full. Man, that's that was just that was the 1106 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: best news from the day to see Titus cam off 1107 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: of I r ready to go hopefully for this week. 1108 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: Now. 1109 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that just because they're fully participating doesn't 1110 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: mean they're gonna play on a match with Cam, he's 1111 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: ready to go because they released Tyzanner. But we'll see 1112 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: on the others to have also had a cast on 1113 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: similar to Josh Jones. So we've had a lot of 1114 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: hand injuries and hopefully these guys can get back health 1115 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 2: the play the way that they are used to playing. 1116 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: And we're playing obviously before the injuries. 1117 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: So injury report not the best yet, but man, compared 1118 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: to what it has been lately, oh gosh, I will 1119 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: absolutely take it around. 1120 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: The NFL started in Atlanta. 1121 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: Obviously, the team of Texans are gonna play Arthur Smith 1122 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: this week, said, Desmond is our quarterback. You'll see him 1123 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Texans. So on the road, Desmond 1124 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: Ritters struggled, offensive struggled. They scored a total of thirteen 1125 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: points on the road. They scored six in Detroit, they 1126 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: scored seven against the Jaguars in London. 1127 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: At home, though they scored. 1128 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: Twenty five and twenty four, so the average twenty four 1129 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 2: and a half points a game at home, so a 1130 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: little different playing him in their building, so where they're 1131 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 2: accustomed to playing. So that's pretty much the biggest nugget 1132 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 2: from around the NFL on this week. All right, we 1133 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 2: get back, let's talk to Let's talk to West Durham. 1134 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 2: And by I talk to Westernham, I mean Mark vandermir 1135 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: the voice of Texans talking to the voice of the Falcons. 1136 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: Mark and Wes met me out of Mike's next right 1137 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: here on Texans All Access. 1138 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: We got one hour down, one hour left to go. 1139 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: Right here on Texans All Access on Sports Radio six ' 1140 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: ten Odyssey app. If you're listening on the pod, thank you, 1141 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: thank you for being here, because then it's timeless and 1142 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about what time it is. 1143 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 4: I do. 1144 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: I have to kind of worry about the time, but 1145 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: that's okay, because we got some great stuff coming up 1146 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 2: for you. In this second hour, we'll have our End 1147 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: the Lab podcast with Drew Doherty. We had a lot 1148 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: to talk about, and Drew calls me out for something 1149 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: that my former players ratted me out when we were 1150 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. I don't think I did this, but apparently 1151 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: I did, and I had to explain why. So that's 1152 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: a little later, and we've also got a little Texans 1153 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 2: og podcast, and this week we're kind of going back 1154 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. Indy Kalu had a chance to catch 1155 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: up with Wade Smith and talk about some of the 1156 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: things that Wade did in his career and his time 1157 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: spent in Houston. So it'd be a little in the show. 1158 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: But right now, we got to catch up with the 1159 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: men behind the mics. Two men that'll be calling this 1160 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: game for each respective organization. Obviously, you know Mark Vandermere, 1161 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: I said the other night he's the greatest ambassador of 1162 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 2: this organization that I've ever seen or been around. And 1163 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: West Durham of the Atlanta Falcons been calling the games 1164 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: there for a while, son of the famous Woody Durham, 1165 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: who was a long time play by play voice legend 1166 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: of the University nor Klainda Tarhules. So West Durham, the 1167 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons sits down with Mark called men behind the mikes. 1168 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 3: Let's go all right, joining us now Texans Radio. It's 1169 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 3: West Durham, the legendary voice. Can I call you that, West, 1170 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 3: the legendary voice of the Atlanta Falcons. 1171 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 7: No, you cannot because you're older than me and you've 1172 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 7: been at it in the NFL. But you did do 1173 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 7: the cane, so you know you can say if you 1174 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 7: need to there you go right. 1175 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's an ACC team and I know you're 1176 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 3: big on the ACC. We can get into all that. 1177 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: But let's talk Falcons here because obviously good start and 1178 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 3: the last couple of games, it's so good. What went 1179 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 3: well in the first two that's not going well lately? 1180 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 4: West? Wait, can you tell us well? 1181 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 7: I feel like talking to your audience. I ought to 1182 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 7: say Bjohn Robinson and Bjon Robinson went well in weeks 1183 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 7: one and two, and then Bjon Robinson went well in 1184 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 7: week four when it end blay very well. I think 1185 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 7: that this is a team that is a sending mark. 1186 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 7: But I also was one of those guys that felt like, 1187 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 7: you know, what if they get off to a relatively 1188 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 7: good start, they've got a chance, but it's still a 1189 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 7: long road in the NFL, right there were gonna be bumps. 1190 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 7: Atlanta's not a complete team by a long shot, but 1191 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 7: they've got a lot more pieces than they had a 1192 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 7: year ago, and significantly more pieces than they had two 1193 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 7: years ago. For me, the inability to make plays offensively 1194 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 7: right now has been the real crux of the issue 1195 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 7: the last two weeks. And it's you know, and as 1196 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 7: we all know in these discussions, it falls on the 1197 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 7: quarterback ninety nine percent of the time. The reality of 1198 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 7: it is sure, Desmond Ritters not played as well as 1199 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 7: he would like in the last two games, but the 1200 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 7: offensive line hasn't helped him. You know, there are other 1201 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 7: things that have contributed to that. You've got guys who 1202 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 7: are kind of working their way back into the lineup. 1203 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 7: You've got a veteran guy left tackle on Jake Matthews, 1204 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 7: who starts his one hundred and I think forty seventh 1205 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 7: game on Sunday. I mean, he's just an institution at 1206 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 7: left tackle. But you've got a rookie right beside him 1207 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 7: at left guard, and Matt berger On who they're excited about, 1208 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 7: but who is obviously still getting kind of acclimated to 1209 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 7: what Sundays are like as opposed to Saturdays. 1210 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 6: And then the right side. 1211 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 7: Lenstrom and McGarry the garden tackle on the right side 1212 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 7: have been pretty good. 1213 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 6: They've not been great yet. 1214 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 7: And Dalman the center, feels like a guy that who's 1215 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 7: won the job and now's got to get better. So 1216 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 7: to tell you the offensive line has been superior would 1217 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 7: be a vast overstatement. They've been okay. Ritter has made 1218 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 7: some good throws. He's made some good decisions. He's also 1219 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 7: made some head scratching throws and that is exactly what 1220 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 7: I expected after eight career starts for Desmond Ritter, and 1221 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,240 Speaker 7: that's kind of where we are. Defensively, they are much improved. 1222 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 7: Anyamada has added a lot to the defensive line. He's 1223 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 7: helped Grady Jared immeasurably. Kalaias Campbell has coming here and 1224 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 7: been a terrific presence. Jesse Bates has three interceptions. In 1225 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 7: my opinion, he was the most important sign Atlanta made 1226 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 7: in the offseason. You had to solidify your back end. 1227 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 7: It had been chaos back there for about three or 1228 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 7: four years. And they did with Jesse Bates. And you've 1229 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 7: got some good players at linebacker. You lost one two 1230 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 7: weeks ago in Troy Anderson, who you were really counting on, 1231 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 7: and now you turn to a guy who was on 1232 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 7: and off your practice squad and on and off your 1233 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 7: active roster in Nate Landman, to kind of take that spot. 1234 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 7: So you know, that's that's been the that's been the 1235 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 7: worst injuries so far in the first four weeks that 1236 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 7: Atlanta's had to overcome. 1237 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 3: West Durham joining us voice of the Atlanta Falcons. What 1238 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 3: about b Jon Robinson? What can you tell us of 1239 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 3: what you've seen so far? We see the numbers. What 1240 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 3: are you seeing in the player as you observe him 1241 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: up close? 1242 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 6: Well, he's delivered everything. Mark. 1243 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 7: You take the guy at eight, and everybody here is 1244 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 7: kind of like, well didn't you want Jalen Carter who 1245 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 7: played at Georgia, And no, you needed. 1246 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 6: This is a showstopper. 1247 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 7: I mean he not only if you make a play 1248 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 7: for him, the play will happen, but if you don't 1249 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 7: make the play, the play still got a chance to 1250 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 7: happen because of how good he is. And I feel 1251 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 7: like I'm you know, preaching to the choir a little 1252 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 7: bit to people in Texas who saw him play in 1253 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 7: Austin and go, well, yeah, that's who he was in Austin. Well, 1254 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 7: this is who he's become at the in the at 1255 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 7: the NFL level. I mean, he made Frankie Louvu the 1256 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 7: linebacker the Panthers looked like he was playing Pop warnerball 1257 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 7: on opening week. I mean, and then he got Darnell 1258 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 7: Savage of the safety from Green Bay. And then last 1259 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 7: week he you know, he juked another guy from from Jacksonville. 1260 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 7: So look he's Look, he's leading him in rushing, he's 1261 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 7: leading them in receiving. I mean, he's doing everything. He's 1262 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 7: touched it a lot more than I thought he would. 1263 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 7: And I will say that their best package when they 1264 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 7: when they can get them both on the field, is 1265 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 7: this sledgehammer Tyler Algier, who's set a rookie rushing record 1266 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 7: a year ago of William Andrews. And they put Algier 1267 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 7: and Robinson on the field together, Mark at the same time, 1268 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 7: they're as good offensively as they've been in Arthur Smith's 1269 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 7: time here, but they haven't been able to do that 1270 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 7: very much the last couple of weeks. Because they've been 1271 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 7: facing deficits, and I think Sunday, regardless if they're playing 1272 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 7: the Texans or they were playing anybody else, they've got 1273 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 7: to start well Sunday. The fact that they have only 1274 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 7: scored what touchdown in the last two games, and quite 1275 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 7: frankly haven't been very good in the first fifteen minutes 1276 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 7: is overbearing at this point to this team. 1277 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, are you surprised that John new Smith has more 1278 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 3: catches than Kyle Pitts At this point, we know that 1279 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 3: Smith is good. We've seen him before tennis surf for example, 1280 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 3: But what about Pitts? What can you tell me about 1281 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: those two tight ends? 1282 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 4: And especially Pitts? 1283 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 7: I think the clarity on Kyle pittsmark is is that 1284 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 7: he's still coming back from what ended up being a 1285 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 7: far more significant knee injury last year than anybody ever realized. 1286 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,240 Speaker 6: Kyle has made some plays. 1287 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 7: He's made a terrific play in the Green Bay game 1288 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 7: to set up a winning score, made a terrific play 1289 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 7: in the Carolina play and the Caro A game in 1290 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 7: Week one, But to ask him to be what we 1291 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 7: all thought he was going to be three years ago 1292 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 7: when he came out of Florida and was picked so 1293 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 7: high at three, maybe stretching it. Where his health is. 1294 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 7: I think is something now that's that's coming out. Is 1295 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 7: it coming out because he's not making plays? I think 1296 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 7: that's part of it. I think it's also coming out 1297 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 7: because you know, he's getting his confidence back. 1298 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 6: Now. 1299 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 7: They never said it was an ACL, but it must 1300 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,760 Speaker 7: have been somewhere in the close of an ACL range 1301 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 7: for him to miss the back end of the schedule 1302 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 7: and then he was, you know, to use the baseball term, 1303 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 7: he was on a pitch country training camp and I 1304 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 7: think they wanted to make sure and I think he 1305 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 7: needs to be confident, and I think he's getting there. 1306 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 7: You know, does he have a breakout game on Sunday? 1307 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 7: I'm always ready for it because I think he's the 1308 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 7: kind of guy who can change a game. He is 1309 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 7: a red zone nightmare. And when you take London and 1310 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 7: you take Mike Collins and now but John Robinson involved 1311 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 7: in it, Mark Atlanta's got a tremendous amount of weaponry 1312 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 7: around Desmond Ritter that I think he's once he gets 1313 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 7: over the barrier in confidence and cutting it loose, I 1314 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 7: think that's where Atlanta maybe has the chance to take off. 1315 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 7: Whether that's Sunday or not, I don't know. I think 1316 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 7: it's a it's a tall task against against fifty one 1317 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 7: in that white jersey on Sunday, because fifty one is 1318 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 7: a playmaker too. He's as electric on defense as anybody 1319 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 7: I've seen a long time come out of the college game. 1320 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 3: West Durham joining us voice of the Falcons. All right, 1321 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 3: We've seen Arthur Smith put together some great game plans 1322 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 3: in Tennessee over the years, up close and personal, and 1323 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 3: some of them with the odds against them and they 1324 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 3: come out with a victory somehow, some way. They raved 1325 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 3: about him for years as he worked his way up 1326 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 3: through the organization. What can you tell me about what 1327 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 3: it's like to work around Arthur Smith. 1328 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 7: He's one of the brightest people I've ever been around, 1329 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 7: period in terms of just his acumen as a human being, 1330 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 7: but his football recall and his football savvy in terms 1331 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 7: of building game plans is really pretty impressive. And I've 1332 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 7: had limited conversations. Of course, he got the job in 1333 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 7: the pandemic, and you know, we kind of were integrating 1334 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 7: back into you know, working together on some things. 1335 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 6: And in the role I have he and I have. 1336 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,959 Speaker 7: Brief conversations practically every week, but they're not very long, 1337 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 7: but yet I always get something out of him from 1338 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 7: what he's thinking about the ballgame, and he'll tell you 1339 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 7: a lot in press conferences. You'll notice that going through 1340 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 7: the week in preparation for this he is a guy 1341 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 7: who talks honestly and candidly about his football team at 1342 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 7: times and talks about the competitive nature of his team. 1343 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 7: I think the one thing I do know that he 1344 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 7: likes about this team is the competitive depth they've been 1345 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 7: able to bring to the table now in year three 1346 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 7: of his administration with GM Terry Fonteau, and I think 1347 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 7: it's pretty important. I think it's one of those things 1348 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 7: that in all honesty, Mark has kind of grown this 1349 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 7: team in the face of a pair of seven to 1350 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 7: ten campaigns. If you will, they tend to play close games. 1351 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 7: You won't be surprised by that, because that's what they 1352 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 7: did in Nashville when he was running the offense there. 1353 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 7: They want to run it before they throw. Nobody's surprised 1354 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 7: by that. The multiple tight ends will be the least 1355 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 7: biggest upset for you guys. I mean, you're gonna see two, 1356 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 7: sometimes you'll see three and he is going to play 1357 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 7: percentage football most of the time. Now he's gotten a 1358 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 7: little more aggressive, they've gotten the ball more vertical at times. 1359 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 7: But that's something that in this transition to Ritter is 1360 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 7: a full time starter, not just the guy who was 1361 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 7: given the last four games last year to kind of 1362 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 7: find out. I think it's one of the growing pains 1363 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 7: that this football team's enduring right now. But I will 1364 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 7: say this, He's also brought some really good coaches here. 1365 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 7: Jerry Gray and Ryan Nielson have done a terrific job 1366 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 7: with fortifying the defense. And I think that maybe the 1367 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 7: most important thing is Arthur Smith and Terry Fonteau had 1368 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 7: a vision, a collaborative vision when they got here, and 1369 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 7: now in year three you can start to see the 1370 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 7: building of that with the football team as a whole. 1371 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 3: All right, Wes, let's talk about the ACC a little bit. 1372 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 3: I want to shift gears here because this is so 1373 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 3: much in your DNA. You do so much ACC broadcasting. 1374 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 3: We know you're father was the legendary announcer at North Carolina. 1375 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 4: I can call him a legend, But. 1376 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 3: Tell me about the level of surprise you have as 1377 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 3: to what's going on right now in college athletics, the portal, 1378 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: the conference realignment, anil, how it's all evolving, changing, and 1379 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 3: where does the ACC go from here? 1380 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 7: You know, Mark, I wish I could give you any 1381 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 7: kind of clarity on college athletics. All of this changed 1382 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 7: during the pandemic. The portal thing was already occurring where 1383 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 7: student athletes could have, you know, freedom of movement as 1384 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 7: I call it. We talked about freedom of movement in 1385 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 7: basketball a few years ago and it was related to 1386 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 7: you know, fowls being called. Well, freedom of movement in 1387 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 7: college athletics means you can sign up at one place 1388 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 7: in one fall and be at another place the next fall, 1389 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 7: and then you know, I'm going to try to stay 1390 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 7: far off my soapbox here. The NCUBA allowed name, image 1391 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 7: and likeness to become a thing and allowed it to 1392 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 7: be measured by the States and not by Congress, right, 1393 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 7: And when that happened, that changed the dynamics of everything. 1394 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 7: Now that's the big picture stuff. The ACC has been 1395 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 7: impacted by the fact that there's been this money grab 1396 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 7: in college athletics for conferences. It relates to television packages, 1397 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 7: and the ACC signed a grant of rights deal in 1398 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen that last twenty years, and it also included 1399 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 7: Notre Dame on what I call an ipo because they 1400 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 7: play five football games a year, and obviously they participate 1401 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 7: in all the other sports sans hockey. 1402 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 6: For me, the accason in good shape. It's not in 1403 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 6: great shape. 1404 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 7: The Big Ten in the Southeastern Conference, of the two 1405 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 7: war daddies, if you will, of college athletics, because they've 1406 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 7: got you know, nearly billion dollar television rights fees out there. 1407 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 7: The Big twelve has made a lot of inroads. And 1408 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 7: I know, folks and you're part of the world followed 1409 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 7: the Big Twelve, and they should because I think Brett 1410 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 7: you Ormark's done a really nice job. Their television contracts 1411 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 7: a lot shorter. But in the packaging, as we know 1412 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 7: college athletics, I think we're standing on the I think 1413 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: we're standing on the deck and waiting to get on 1414 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 7: a boat of a new reality. And if that reality 1415 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 7: is going to be dictated by the twelve team college 1416 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 7: football Playoff, then so be it. But I think that 1417 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 7: the decisions that presidents and chancellors are going to have 1418 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 7: to make it a lot of these institutions and major 1419 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 7: college athletics are getting ready to be tricky ones, because 1420 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 7: they're gonna be decisions you have to make today, and 1421 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 7: you're gonna have to have the foresight of the next 1422 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 7: twenty five to fifty years perhaps in your pocket as well. 1423 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 3: On the field, west, who do you trust more? Miami, 1424 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 3: Florida State, North Carolina? Where are we going to the ACC? 1425 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 3: Who's the best contender? 1426 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 7: You know, we've been waiting since you did the Canes 1427 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 7: a million years ago from Miami and Florida State to 1428 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 7: play for an ACC championship, and it never happened, right, 1429 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 7: I mean you remember that talk. Oh the reason they're 1430 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 7: adding Miami is because it's going to be Miami and 1431 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 7: Florida State every year and they've never played for the 1432 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 7: ACC football title. And I was when we got back 1433 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 7: from London early Monday morning yesterday, I spent some time 1434 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 7: watching games and it finally dawned on me looking at 1435 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 7: schedules and kind of comparing where teams are playing, that 1436 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 7: we're going to see Miami in Florida State play in 1437 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 7: November in the regular season. It's going to be an 1438 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 7: unbelievable game because they're likely both be undefeated. But then 1439 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 7: we have a chance three weeks later to see the 1440 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 7: same game and I think Miami and Florida State are 1441 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 7: the two best teams in the league right now. Carolina 1442 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 7: is close. I think even Clemson with two losses is 1443 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 7: still very dangerous. Mark, But on the whole, I would 1444 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 7: not be surprised at all if we have a one 1445 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 7: loss Miami Florida State game against an undefeated Miami or 1446 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 7: Florida State in December for the ACC title, with the 1447 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 7: winner going to the Final Four. 1448 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 3: One more for you, Wes. Back to the Falcons sure 1449 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 3: recovery from the London trip, How do you think it goes? 1450 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 3: These are young men, They should be able to respond. 1451 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: How are you feeling? 1452 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 4: How did it go other than the game itself? 1453 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 7: Injury wise? I think they're okay, which is important, right. 1454 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 7: You don't want to bring anybody back on that long 1455 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 7: a trip and then have them spend all week in 1456 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 7: rehab hoping that they might be able to pull the 1457 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 7: trigger on Sunday. For me, they had a bout as 1458 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 7: good a plan from a practice and reacclamation situation on 1459 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 7: the back end of this, and I think, as you know, 1460 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 7: this has become a lot more now, Hey, Lee, Thursday, 1461 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,959 Speaker 7: come back after the game and play the next week 1462 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 7: and then push your by as far into the season 1463 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 7: as you can get it. 1464 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 6: Atlanta. 1465 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 7: For the most part, knock on Wood was generally very 1466 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 7: healthy out of the ballgame Sunday. I think Arthur Smith 1467 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 7: had been over there when they went his first year 1468 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 7: to play the Jets at Tottenham, and they did the 1469 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 7: Thursday Sunday and they came back okay. He felt really 1470 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 7: good when I saw him Saturday in the hotel about 1471 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 7: whether they won or lost the game, that they had 1472 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 7: a really good blueprint for what the back end would be. 1473 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 7: They know how important these next two home games are 1474 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 7: mark because believe it or not, half their home games 1475 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 7: are going to be gone after these next two weeks. 1476 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 7: They played two at home to start, they went to Detroit, 1477 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 7: London to play Jacksonville. Now they're back to play Houston 1478 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 7: and Washington, and they've only got four home games left 1479 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 7: the rest of the year. So they've got to maximize 1480 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 7: home field because in all honesty, this is a team 1481 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 7: that has now struggled on the road. Yesterday was our Sunday, 1482 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 7: rather was their ninth road loss in their last ten 1483 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 7: games on the road. So they've got to they've got 1484 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 7: to find a way to kind of shake that a 1485 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 7: little bit if they're gonna try and crack what is? 1486 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 6: What is? 1487 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 7: You know, we all were sleeping on the NFC South. 1488 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 7: I'll be the first to minut I said, one team, 1489 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 7: one team only out of the division, and all of 1490 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 7: a sudden, you know, Tampa, New Orleans, Atlanta have fired 1491 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 7: out of there. Everybody was two and one, and now 1492 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 7: the Buccaneers they've kind of pushed it forward, believe it 1493 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 7: or not with Baker Mayfield. Kind of like they're drinking 1494 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 7: the Tom Brady juice down there again. So it's gonna 1495 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 7: be interesting to see what happens in this division, bar 1496 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 7: none of what happens on Sunday with the Texans here. 1497 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Texans have four in a row against the NFC South 1498 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: right now, it's weird in the schedule, but I'll have 1499 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 3: some notes after this stretches over West. Yes, so much 1500 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 3: for the time, great information, We appreciate it. 1501 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 6: Mark anytime. Great to see you, look forward to seeing 1502 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 6: you Sunday. 1503 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,439 Speaker 2: It's so funny when I moved to North Carolina back 1504 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, after I left Jacksonville, and 1505 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 2: I would drive around, I would listen to North Carolina 1506 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 2: football or basketball, whatever it is, and I would hear 1507 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Woody Durham's voice, and this happens for a lot of people. 1508 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,919 Speaker 2: A lot of people when my dad answers the phone 1509 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 2: to think it's me, or when I answered. 1510 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: It they thought it was my dad. We sound very 1511 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: very similar. 1512 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: Woody Durham and West Durham sound one hundred percent identical. 1513 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing to listen to them, and you wouldn't be 1514 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 2: able to tell the difference, like, Hey, here's Wes. You 1515 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to know two tremendous broadcasters. And hopefully 1516 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Wes on Sunday is announcing a loss for his Falcons 1517 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 2: and Mark is announcing a win for the Texans. But 1518 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 2: Texans have struggled in Atlanta. I don't even want to 1519 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 2: get into last time. 1520 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,439 Speaker 1: We were there. 1521 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully twenty twenty three is much different than twenty fifteen, 1522 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, and different from two 1523 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 2: thousand and seven that was bad too, So hopefully things 1524 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 2: will change on Sunday in Atlanta. Speaking of all of. 1525 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: That, it's time for in the lab. 1526 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Next, Drew Doerdy and I talk about our Creamy the 1527 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 2: Cropper from the Winner of the Steelers. 1528 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: We talked about this Falcons matchup and Drew out. 1529 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Me for something I did as a coach because my 1530 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 2: former players outed me. 1531 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: That's next right here in Texans All Access. Yes, sir, 1532 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: glad to be with you on this Wednesday evening. 1533 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Hopefully you're staying dry and feeling good wherever you are, 1534 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 2: because well you're a Texans fan, or at least I 1535 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 2: hope you are. I am your host, John Harris Football 1536 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 2: on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans and I'm 1537 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 2: also one half of the in Lab crew. 1538 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: My man Drew Doherty will be with us in just 1539 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: a second. 1540 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 2: But I'm a little mad at Drew, even though he 1541 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 2: is my in the Lab partner. But he outed me 1542 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 2: because my former players outed me for doing something he 1543 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 2: said and jokingly was bad sportsmanship. But I don't think 1544 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: I did this. But you have to hang around for 1545 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 2: that story a little bit later. But it's time for 1546 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 2: in the Lab. 1547 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 8: I don't recall, and I'm sure it's happened. I'm certain 1548 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 8: it's and I'm certain it's happened while I've been employed here, 1549 01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 8: while you've been employed here. But I'm getting old and 1550 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 8: it's been in a rough four years. Yep, I do 1551 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 8: not remember a better back to back, more fulfilling, more 1552 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 8: dominating stretch of football, more fun stretch of football than 1553 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 8: what we just saw. It's recency bias, I know. But 1554 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 8: you factor in the JJ Watt homecoming stuff, ring of 1555 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 8: honor induction and the good feelings that happened there and 1556 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 8: playing a marquee franchise the week after playing one of 1557 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 8: your rivals that you've dominated for the last fifteen years 1558 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 8: or so, I don't recall feeling happier and I want 1559 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 8: to get your thought on that. But first, a very 1560 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 8: quick table of contents for this in the lab today, 1561 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 8: you and I are going to recall the good feelings. 1562 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 8: We're going to have a cream of the cropper for 1563 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 8: this last week. We're going to have a Texan under 1564 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 8: the radar to watch at Atlanta. We have to also 1565 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 8: tell a story about when you implored high school players 1566 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 8: to act disrespectful and have poor sportsmanship, and that's a 1567 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 8: fantastic story. 1568 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 13: I can't wait to tell this one. 1569 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 8: And then after that, I had a chance to get 1570 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 8: some off the field stuff from Nico Collins that was 1571 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 8: a lot of fun. It was prior to his eruption 1572 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 8: in this last game. And it's the second eruption of 1573 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, and this guy's not far off from 1574 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 8: already equaling and bettering his career best in a lot 1575 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 8: of different numbers. But back to the good feelings. Do 1576 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 8: you recall a more dominant two game stretch for the 1577 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 8: Texans back to back, like like we just witnessed. 1578 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 13: No, not start it is now just beat these guys up. 1579 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 9: The last time the Texans won back. 1580 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 2: To back games was in twenty twenty one and went 1581 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 2: to Jacksonville and in the rain beat Jacksonville. 1582 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 4: That was good. 1583 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: And then it came back home and had probably the 1584 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 2: best game of the year. I don't know if I 1585 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 2: would say it was dominated against La Chargers, but that 1586 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 2: was the last time they had one back to back games. 1587 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 8: Those were fun. Yeah, it was fun during lost seasons. 1588 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 8: You know, there's still a lot of hope for this season. 1589 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 2: During lost season and even in a nine game win 1590 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 2: streak in twenty eighteen, like each game was. 1591 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 4: Just nil, nil, nail biting. 1592 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 2: One night that I felt like, wow, we're pretty good 1593 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 2: was Thursday night in twenty eighteen. Unfortunately, in the Sports quarter, 1594 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Will Fuller went down with the tornycl and that's when 1595 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 2: it kind of took the good feelings out. But I 1596 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 2: remember that night thinking, okay, wow, for a long time 1597 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 2: in that game, I'm thinking, we're pretty good. 1598 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 4: We're on a roll. 1599 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 9: I think it was four or five in a row 1600 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 9: at that point. 1601 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 2: It was a Thursday night, We're getting the mini by 1602 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking and then kind of getting 1603 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,440 Speaker 2: the news in the locker room that Will. 1604 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 13: Was gut punched me. 1605 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was got out. Yeah, that was a tough one. 1606 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 2: And even though DT Marius Thomas joined us, it just 1607 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't the same. And then DT went down to 1608 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia game, so it was definitely not the same 1609 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 2: going forward. But from beginning to end, two games in 1610 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 2: a row, all three phases. 1611 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 9: Exciting football watch. 1612 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 4: That was. 1613 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 2: That's the epitome of it, those those two games back 1614 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 2: to back, beating the Jags in Jacksonville and then beating 1615 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 2: the Steelers here, and I mean this, I mean, Drew, 1616 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 2: if you look at the score, you look at the numbers, 1617 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 2: and you look at the film, all three of them 1618 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 2: tell the same story, and that is Texans dominated from 1619 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 2: play one through the end of the game. 1620 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 4: And it was really impressive to watch. 1621 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 8: So many things to pinpoint, I want to get your 1622 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 8: cream of. 1623 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 13: The crop crop. Thank you much of man. Randy Savage, 1624 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 13: rest in peace, Macha man. I got a chance. 1625 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 8: After you tell your bad sportsmanship story when you were 1626 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 8: a poor sport I'm gonna tell a little Randy Matroman 1627 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 8: Savage story. But cream of the crop crop? Who is 1628 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 8: your Houston Texans cream of the cropper? From this Sunday? 1629 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna go with. 1630 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 9: Nico Collins love it. 1631 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 4: I hate to do it. 1632 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 13: But how do you hate to do it? I hate 1633 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 13: to do it, I don't hate to do it. 1634 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 9: I don't want to say that's obvious, but I mean 1635 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 9: Nico is seven catches. 1636 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 8: Oakham's razor baby. Sometimes the most obvious twice is the 1637 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 8: best squader. 1638 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean Nico's day, he tied his career high interceptions 1639 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 2: seven in a game. He broke his career record, which 1640 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 2: was a couple weeks ago, with one hundred and sixty 1641 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 2: eight yards in a game, and he set a new 1642 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,800 Speaker 2: record for his single game touchdowns with two. So he 1643 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 2: was high marks in all three categories. But I'm gonna 1644 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,600 Speaker 2: say this. I mean, everybody saw the catches and all that. 1645 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 2: What I think a lot of people missed were those 1646 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 2: three wide receivers, even even Tank, and I should say 1647 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 2: four wide receivers because John Metchi as well, and I 1648 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 2: probably put Metch in front of Tank on this one. 1649 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: The run blocking from those wide receivers was incredible. 1650 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 13: And that's just clamping up TJ. Watt. 1651 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 4: Incredible. 1652 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 9: I mean it was incredible. 1653 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean Nico, Nico had Marcus Golden so ticked off 1654 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 2: at him. He was like swinging at him on the 1655 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 2: Texas sideline and Nico is just laughing at him, you know, 1656 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 2: Nico six four two fifteen. 1657 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 4: Holding his own. Yeah. 1658 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 2: But I'll say this, you know, Robert Woods didn't have 1659 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 2: a ton of catches in his game. He had a 1660 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: couple of key third down ones. Of course, that's just 1661 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 2: Robert Woods. But I was listening to a podcast this 1662 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 2: past summer, I don't remember. I think it was called 1663 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 2: The Playmakers. It was Jordan rod Reeg from the Athletic 1664 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 2: and she talked about four coaches Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel, 1665 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 2: Matt Lafloor, and whom I missing in that in. 1666 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 13: That group Shanahan. 1667 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, yeah, Kyle Shannon. 1668 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 4: That was kind of the impetus of it. 1669 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,560 Speaker 2: So she when she got to the chapter about McVeigh. 1670 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting because McVeigh came from Washington. 1671 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,719 Speaker 4: He had been under Kyle. 1672 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 2: They had been a lot of you know, a lot 1673 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 2: of eleven personnel team, you know, one one back, one 1674 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: tight end. 1675 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 4: That was that. 1676 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 9: Then he went to the Rams thinking that's what he 1677 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 9: was going to do. 1678 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 2: He got to the Rams and he's got Cooper Cup 1679 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,640 Speaker 2: and Robert Woods, and he realized that they could be 1680 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 2: a twelve personnel team basically with those two on. 1681 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,759 Speaker 9: The field because they were such good run blockers. 1682 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 2: And he said, Robert Woods blocking in particular in the 1683 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 2: run game changed his entire thought about what he thought 1684 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 2: the team was going to be and what it actually 1685 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 2: turned into. And it turned into basically eleven and a 1686 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 2: half person out because Cooper Cup and Robert Woods were 1687 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 2: so down good, in particular Woods in the in the 1688 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 2: run blocking game. And so he's great, and Nico and 1689 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 2: Mets you were fantastic and ten listen, Tank is five eight, 1690 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five pounds, so can wet and 1691 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,759 Speaker 2: he'll throw his body in there and make some blocks. 1692 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 2: So that I would throw on top of the fact 1693 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 2: that Nico was just fantastic in the receiving game. I mean, 1694 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 2: his route running was great. He beat Steeler DB's like 1695 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 2: they were just staying still a couple of times on 1696 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 2: a touchdown going into the north end on a slant, 1697 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 2: he just shook that dB and then he just went 1698 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 2: right by Patrick Peterson stacked and ran the corner rod 1699 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 2: on the final touchdown. So he was he was a 1700 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 2: route running beast as much as he was a blocker, 1701 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 2: as much as he was anything. So I'm gonna give 1702 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 2: him credit for all facets as a cream of the cropper, 1703 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 2: how about you. 1704 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 13: I love it. 1705 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,799 Speaker 8: And as an addendum to yours, I'm gonna say, Robert Woods, 1706 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 8: he's gonna get his. He's gonna have a few hundred 1707 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 8: yard games. Oh yeah, Nico's had a couple, Dells had one. 1708 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 8: That's I think it's just the way CJ spreads the ball. Right, 1709 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 8: We're gonna see this from Dalton Schultz. 1710 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 4: Yep. 1711 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 8: Dalton's just Dalton's playing fine. I think he just these receivers. 1712 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 8: They're getting the line share of these catches and chewing 1713 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 8: up yardage and chunking up yardage. 1714 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:10,679 Speaker 4: Yep. 1715 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 8: So that's that's what I'm gonna go with. I'll go 1716 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 8: on defense, Steven Nelson's my cream of the cropper. I 1717 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 8: think the the lone win of the day for Pittsburgh 1718 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 8: was they won the coin toss, and they win the 1719 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 8: coin toss and can he Pickett. They're like, you wanna 1720 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 8: what do you wanna do? And he kind of like smiles, 1721 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 8: or at least I'm remembering it this way, he might 1722 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 8: or just might be like embellishing, but yeah, he kind 1723 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 8: of did defer like, we got all these Steelers fans 1724 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 8: in the building, We're gonna put them on offense. First, 1725 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 8: we're gonna get loud, and then we're gonna get the ball. Well, 1726 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 8: Texans received that kickoff. Chop chop, chop, chop chop. They 1727 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 8: go score four times three times on the first drive, 1728 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 8: only one of them counts, and then Steven Nelson ends 1729 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 8: the Steelers first drive with an interception, a really nice 1730 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 8: diving acrobatic play, had a great return. Afterwards, he said, Hey, 1731 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 8: if you want to know about my return skills, go 1732 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 8: ask Frank Ross. I still got a record from high 1733 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 8: school in Georgia. Steven Nelson's been outstanding. He was good. 1734 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 8: He was really really good last year in another i 1735 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 8: say lost season, another lost season. He was really really good. 1736 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 8: That was not a lost season because of Steven Nelson, 1737 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 8: and I think he's raised the bar in twenty twenty two. 1738 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 8: He's a captain, he has played phenomenally. I loved what 1739 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 8: he did the other day. When teams do go at him, 1740 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,600 Speaker 8: it usually doesn't go well. He usually is batting it 1741 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 8: down or the receiver's not getting much yardage, or as 1742 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 8: we saw yesterday, that was the second pick of the 1743 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 8: year for Steven Nelson. He had won in the first 1744 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 8: game against the Ravens, got the one yesterday and it 1745 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 8: was massive. Help set the tone and it's fun when 1746 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 8: you're up double digits like the Texans quickly were after that. 1747 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 8: They get a field goal from Kymie Fairburn. Tough for 1748 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 8: other teams to do what they want to do when 1749 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,720 Speaker 8: they're already down ten nothing early in the game. 1750 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 2: What I love about a veterer and Steven talked about 1751 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 2: this a little bit after the game, but I mentioned 1752 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 2: it during the game, you know, film study. 1753 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that was Miko talked about that with you guys, Yeah, 1754 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,520 Speaker 8: he did, and about Nelson's. 1755 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Film that that particular play was the exact same play 1756 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 2: that the Steelers had run the week before and beat 1757 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 2: the Raiders with a seventy two yard touchdown. So when 1758 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 2: they came out in that formation on second eight team 1759 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 2: because just to play prior, Jerry Hughes ad it a 1760 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 2: sack for eight yard loss. So second eighteen, and so 1761 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 2: when they come out, it's the personnel, it's the formation. 1762 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 2: Steven Nelson knew like, oh, I know what they're doing. 1763 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 2: They're running this deep post route and Nelson got on 1764 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,600 Speaker 2: top of it. That's a really hard thing to do 1765 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 2: for a corner. 1766 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 8: They basically scored on that against the Raiders that they 1767 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 8: they two yards in the week before play the week before, 1768 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 8: and so they they dialed up again. 1769 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 4: Second eighteen. 1770 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,560 Speaker 9: Was kind of a weird time to do it, but 1771 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 9: they did it. 1772 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Stephen recognized everything about it, got on top of the 1773 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 2: post route, stayed deep, He knew it was coming, he 1774 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: knew picker was going to take a shot, and he 1775 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 2: took that shot and he went up and got me. 1776 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 2: It was for all the great catch which is on Sunday, 1777 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 2: that might have been the best catch of the day 1778 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 2: right there on either side the one. 1779 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 8: Stephen Nelson mayre have difficulty that one. And then you 1780 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 8: know who has a you know who topped him. Unfortunately 1781 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 8: it didn't count. Shack Griffin had an interduption late, but 1782 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 8: I guess he had pushed a little bit and got 1783 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 8: called for a p I but I love Shaq Griffin's 1784 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 8: pick that should have been Anyways, those are great ones. Okay, 1785 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 8: Falcons coming home from London chose not to take the buye. 1786 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 8: I think you do have a choice in this. I 1787 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 8: know the schedule makers set the schedule, but I think 1788 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 8: when you play internationally, you can choose to take a 1789 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 8: bye the week after. And they apparently thought they're taking 1790 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 8: a buy against the Texans. I don't think that's gonna 1791 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 8: be the case. I don't think you think that's gonna 1792 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 8: be to be the case. Let's see how it turns 1793 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 8: out on Sunday. But under the radar, guy who you 1794 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 8: keeping your eyes on? 1795 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 2: John a guy that should be getting a whole lot 1796 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 2: more credit than he's gotten. And I thought he played fantastic. 1797 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 2: And I actually said it to Mark Not on the 1798 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 2: air we were talking about it. I said, man, you 1799 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 2: who played really well the other day? And then in 1800 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 2: the press conference, Damiko Ryans brought him up. I think 1801 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 2: unprompted Sheldon Rankins. Now, if you go look. 1802 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 13: What defensive tackle. 1803 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 4: The numbers for number ninety eight are. They're not high. 1804 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 9: You know, he doesn't have a bunch of. 1805 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 13: Sacks, and that's defensive tackles man. 1806 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 9: Sheldon Rankins is doing work. 1807 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,600 Speaker 2: And the one thing that the Miko said was exactly 1808 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why. 1809 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,600 Speaker 9: And I think when you have defensive lineman that. 1810 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 2: Can run and you're not a tremendous tackling team yet 1811 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 2: you need everybody hustling all the time one hundred percent. 1812 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 2: And Rankins did that on a third I think it 1813 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 2: was a third and fourteen play through the ball. I 1814 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 2: think the Jalen Warren maybe. I think it was Warren 1815 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 2: and he made the first guy miss, but Rankins, after 1816 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 2: his rush just turned around and sprinted. And after Warren 1817 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 2: made that guy missed, it slowed him down and Rankins 1818 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 2: was going full speed blasted him, kept him short of 1819 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 2: a fourth of a first down conversion. But it's that 1820 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 2: he had another one like that a little bit later. 1821 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 2: He's just he's getting more penetration. He is really the 1822 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: perfect compliment over to Malee Collins. I think they play 1823 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,480 Speaker 2: off one another really really well. Sheldon Rankins is my 1824 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 2: my under the radar guy. And this week it becomes 1825 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,640 Speaker 2: that much more important for those defensive lineman to be 1826 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 2: pursuing one hundred percent because you got b Jon Robinson 1827 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 2: run the football. 1828 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 9: He's gonna make the first guy miss, it's gonna happen. 1829 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: So when he makes that first guy miss and you 1830 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,680 Speaker 2: know he darts outside and comes back inside, if those 1831 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 2: defensive linemen are flying from the inside, they get a 1832 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 2: good shot possibility and knocking the ball out. And I 1833 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 2: think Sheldon Rankins, you know, have that opportunity to look 1834 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 2: it's in a good off. It's a good Atlanta offensive line. 1835 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 2: They've got a lot of good talent. Crystal Innstrom is 1836 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 2: one of the best guards in the in the NFL, 1837 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 2: if not the best guard. He just got paid like 1838 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 2: a Jake Matthews the left tackle. But Gary had a 1839 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,680 Speaker 2: much better year last year. You can get after him 1840 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 2: a little bit. And that's why I think Sheldon Ranks 1841 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 2: got to play a big role in this one. On Sunday, 1842 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:56,879 Speaker 2: how about. 1843 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 8: You, Henry Totoe Dejon Robinson defense? Yeah, well Bjeon Robinson, Yeah, 1844 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 8: I mean I don't I saw his numbers from Sunday. 1845 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 8: He probably didn't get the ball enough. 1846 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 2: No, they're not good they I mean, they have so 1847 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 2: many weapons, they're probably not using it enough and that's 1848 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 2: why the offense becomes big and keep the ball over there. 1849 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, Toto is a good one. 1850 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, the three round linebacker and he's basically the I 1851 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 8: mean he's not he doesn't have a Captain C on 1852 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 8: his chest, but he's running the defense. 1853 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 3: Yep. 1854 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 8: Four games, three games in. Really it was because he 1855 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 8: was the starter out there at Jacksonville. 1856 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 4: Yep. 1857 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 8: It's saying a lot that's and he's gonna get called 1858 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 8: upon linebacking like he's the front seven. They've got their 1859 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 8: hands full of Bjeon Robinson. Hell, the whole defense does 1860 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 8: with Bjon Robinson and all those weapons like you mentioned. 1861 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 8: But I'm gonna go with Toto. That's my guy. Okay, Hey, 1862 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 8: two weeks ago we went to Jacksonville, and the night 1863 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 8: before the game, you had coached in Jacksonville. Anyway, listens 1864 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 8: to this show, knows that you have a history in 1865 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 8: that town. 1866 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:48,519 Speaker 6: Yep. 1867 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 8: And we get to the place where we're eating and 1868 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 8: there's three dudes there with their families. They're you know, 1869 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 8: in their early forties, late thirties. I say, hey, did 1870 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 8: you guys all coach together, and you're. 1871 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 13: Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1872 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,559 Speaker 8: I coached these guys and so heard some fun stories. Yeah, 1873 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 8: from twenty some years ago. And John, you were a 1874 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 8: poor sport you poor boy, dirty coach, and you encouraged taunting, 1875 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 8: you encouraged poor sportsmanship, and you had youth of America 1876 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 8: going into a hostile environment and risking their their themselves. 1877 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 13: What happened? Tell us this, okay, scoundrel. 1878 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 2: Now I didn't remember this story this way, but allegedly so. 1879 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 2: This was nineteen ninety eight. It's my first year as 1880 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 2: a varsity head coach. 1881 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: And we. 1882 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 13: Nineteen ninety eight was a great year. 1883 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 4: It was a great year. 1884 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,680 Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago. Yeah, we did have it was 1885 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, I was twenty six at the time. 1886 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,519 Speaker 2: We're just trying to get the program up and kind 1887 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 2: of really going. And I'd been there and I coached 1888 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 2: all these kids as junior high kids, and we started 1889 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 2: kind of winning a few games, and I left for 1890 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 2: a couple of years. I came back and now they're 1891 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 2: junior sophomores, junior seniors, and so we go when we 1892 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 2: play and it's that private school called piscol which is 1893 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,720 Speaker 2: very similar to the Piscopal here in Houston, and we 1894 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 2: go to play it in a place called Branford, Florida. 1895 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,440 Speaker 2: And I didn't set the schedule. 1896 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 4: For this year. 1897 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 2: This was set by the previous head coach. So we're 1898 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 2: going to Branford, Florida. Now, if you went to Branford. 1899 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 13: Florida, it's kind of like a rural school. 1900 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, like and then some So I'm bringing rich private 1901 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 2: school kids to Branford, Florida, and you know, kind of 1902 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 2: rural public school, one of those places where on Friday night, 1903 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 2: that's you just went to the football game. 1904 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 4: This is what you did, sure, And this place is packed. 1905 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 2: It's homecoming over them, and we sort of unleashed our 1906 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 2: passing game on them in that in that particular game. 1907 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 9: Now, my players remembered it as the. 1908 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't hear anything about your pass. Yeah I 1909 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 8: heard what happened that the game. Yeah, Kyle Hicks threw 1910 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,760 Speaker 8: four touchdowns. Andy Kidd, who was at dinner, he had 1911 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 8: a couple of touchdowns running touchdown. Branford was angry with us, 1912 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 8: but they might have been angry for a different reason. 1913 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,799 Speaker 8: I don't remember it this way, but apparently my players, 1914 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 8: all three of them confirmed that I told him to 1915 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 8: do this when they went on the field that I 1916 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 8: told them to go. 1917 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 9: Jump on the logo right and get fired up. 1918 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 4: And part of the reason if I. 1919 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,640 Speaker 8: With their with through it, with their helmets off in 1920 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 8: the air, I did do that as a team. That 1921 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 8: was kind of what I was going for. 1922 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 2: I was going for them to have a little bit 1923 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,839 Speaker 2: of emotion, you know, have a little bit of you know, juice. 1924 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,799 Speaker 4: And apparently I told him the dude. 1925 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 8: Halftime, yeah, you doubled down on already had like twenty 1926 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 8: eight second They said, you guys. They they the opposing 1927 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,320 Speaker 8: team had a furious comeback, but you held him off. 1928 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 13: Ye win. 1929 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1930 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 2: We My best player was Andy Kidd and so after 1931 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 2: we had taken a lead, he broke his fingers, so 1932 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 2: he had to leave the game. So the fourth quarter 1933 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,600 Speaker 2: they started coming back and then we launched a go 1934 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 2: route to uh to Doug vanner Malley and never forget 1935 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 2: it and he caught it, went in the end zone. 1936 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 4: We ended up winning like thirty four twenty four. 1937 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,599 Speaker 2: Something like that, and it was not easy to get 1938 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 2: out of there that night. I don't know leus jumping 1939 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 2: on the logo. I didn't remember doing that that's I'm 1940 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,680 Speaker 2: not a big fan of it, but I might. I 1941 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 2: might have been that night, just kind of feeling my oats, 1942 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 2: like's motivating your team a little bit, let's show. 1943 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 4: Them who we are. 1944 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,639 Speaker 9: And of course they go to the logo and jump 1945 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 9: on it. 1946 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 2: And the way I remember it was they went jumped 1947 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 2: on the logo, and I remember my coach going did 1948 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 2: you tell them to do that? 1949 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't think so, but maybe I did, 1950 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 4: so that's the way I remember it. 1951 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 9: But either way it worked out. 1952 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1953 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,720 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was bad sportsmanship. They played with 1954 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 2: the most fire and energy, so I don't know how 1955 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 2: them going the you know, it's kind of what the 1956 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 2: Titans do. They go jump on logos and try and 1957 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 2: win games. The last time they did it here in Houston, 1958 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 2: they I'd beat fifty seven, seventeen and twenty seventeen. 1959 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 9: So I don't know. 1960 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:48,759 Speaker 4: Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. 1961 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 2: But that's the way my players remember it, and all 1962 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,600 Speaker 2: three of them had the same exact memory of it, 1963 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:54,760 Speaker 2: so I must have done it. 1964 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 13: So this was not made up. I witnessed this story being. 1965 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 9: Told, Yeah, exactly, and they were like, no, no, you 1966 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 9: told us. 1967 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 13: I'm like, all right, I guess I did dang it well. 1968 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 8: At times. A guy who was also a poor sport 1969 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 8: was Randy Machaman Savage. And when I say poor sport, 1970 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 8: one time he took a bell and crushed Ricky the 1971 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 8: Dragon Steamboat's throat with it, so not nice. 1972 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 4: Not nice. 1973 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 13: I got a chance to have I booked him. 1974 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 8: I used to be a producer for a TV show 1975 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 8: in Dallas, and this was two thousand and one when 1976 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,360 Speaker 8: I did this. But I booked him and he came 1977 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 8: on a TV show and he was awesome. He was 1978 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 8: everything you could think he would be, and I was. 1979 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,679 Speaker 8: I got a chance to spend about fifteen twenty minutes 1980 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 8: with him before the show in the green room, just 1981 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,799 Speaker 8: chit chatting with him, trying to make him feel comfortable, 1982 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 8: and he was. 1983 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:40,679 Speaker 4: He was great. 1984 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,679 Speaker 8: He was telling stories like I used to play minor 1985 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 8: league baseball in the organization did. 1986 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 13: But he was awesome, and he got a cool picture. 1987 01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 13: I put it up. I put it up whenever I can. 1988 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 8: I'll try probably put it up in conjunction with this podcast. 1989 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 9: If I had to tell my story, you've got to 1990 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 9: put that picture up. 1991 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 13: There's really not a wild story. 1992 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,360 Speaker 8: He had just Spider Man and he was in the 1993 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,680 Speaker 8: original well I don't know if it's the original, but 1994 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 8: the one from two thousand and one. 1995 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 13: To McGuire with Toby McGuire and he played a character. 1996 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,600 Speaker 13: He's like, oh it was bone. 1997 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 8: Saw McGraw was swimming from the chandeliers with Christian Dunts. 1998 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 8: That's my poor macho Man impersonation. 1999 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 4: It's pretty good. 2000 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 8: Now I got a cough, but yeah, love rest in peace, 2001 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 8: macho Man. So because of that, because of all his 2002 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 8: different sayings, he had that little the cream of the 2003 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 8: Crop in this interview he did with mean Gene Okland. 2004 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 8: So I thought, let's see our so just calling it 2005 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,120 Speaker 8: best Player of the Game ward. It's the Dream of 2006 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 8: the Crop. 2007 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 9: Awards recognizing Randy Macho Man Savage. 2008 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, rip man. 2009 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 13: Rip and rip to the rest of this interview with 2010 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 13: you and me. 2011 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,760 Speaker 2: Now back in nineteen ninety eight, Yeah, I was twenty six. 2012 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,759 Speaker 2: I was probably a hothead and I probably did have. 2013 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 1: My team go jump on a logo. 2014 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I did it for my team's 2015 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 2: good to kind of get them going a little bit, 2016 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,080 Speaker 2: and it did. It worked, we won, So yeah, I 2017 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe I don't know. I don't think I 2018 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 2: was a dirty coach. I definitely was a dirty coach. 2019 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, I push the envelope on that one. There's 2020 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: no question about that. 2021 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we get back. 2022 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 2: It's time for a little smidgen of Texans OG podcast 2023 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 2: Indie Klue did with Wade Smith. This is some good 2024 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 2: stuff from n d as. He was talking with Wade 2025 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 2: about his career with the Texans and some of the 2026 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 2: things that happened in his playing career. 2027 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 1: That's next right here we Texans All Access. 2028 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 2: We got one to find a segment of this edition 2029 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 2: to Texans All Access from the out at Texans Radio Studio. 2030 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 2: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, 2031 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 2: and you are good pal. Indie Klue has been catching 2032 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 2: up with the Texans legends on the Texans OG's podcast. Now, 2033 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 2: if you haven't had a chance to catch it, I 2034 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,360 Speaker 2: don't know what you're waiting for. Because there have been 2035 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 2: some great guests between Jonathan Wells, Jonathan Joseph, those two 2036 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 2: were were tremendous, very very good. Moran Norris was also one, 2037 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 2: I mean really really good stuff. Indy has been doing great. 2038 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Here's a sample of a conversation that Wade Smith did 2039 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 2: with n D. They talked about case Keenum and what 2040 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 2: his presence is like in the building and gets into 2041 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 2: the playing days of Waite Smith. 2042 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,440 Speaker 1: Here we go. Indeed, with Wade Smith. 2043 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,680 Speaker 14: This is not me being a homer, and I know 2044 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 14: most people outside of this building will throw up. As 2045 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 14: a matter of fact, I know a lot of my 2046 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 14: buddies when I talk about this, they just shake their head. 2047 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 14: I love case Keenum, move like I don't think Case Keenum. 2048 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:29,840 Speaker 14: I'm not saying he should have been the start of 2049 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,040 Speaker 14: the entire time, but in my opinion, from day one, 2050 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 14: Case Keenum should have always been a Texan because one, 2051 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 14: I get the sense and you played with him if 2052 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,559 Speaker 14: I'm not mistaken, so you can tell me if I'm wrong. 2053 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 14: I get the sense that he understood, accepted, and appreciated 2054 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 14: his role here in Houston. But I feel like he 2055 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 14: was also a guy that if he gets in the game, 2056 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 14: if the starter goes down, you can still expect to win. 2057 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,400 Speaker 14: So he's just one of those guys that I feel 2058 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 14: like should have always been paid a little bit more 2059 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 14: of the most backups. Yeah, and make him comfortable and 2060 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,840 Speaker 14: let him know, Hey, we're trying to find starters, but 2061 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 14: we value you. There's always gonna be a position for 2062 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,679 Speaker 14: you on this team. I've just always had that feeling, 2063 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 14: and I didn't play with him like you did, so 2064 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 14: I would love to get your take. 2065 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, loved I loved Case as a teammate. 2066 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 15: I thought that he did an excellent job when he 2067 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 15: got his opportunities his rookie year. It was a bad 2068 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 15: situation going on around him as far as we had 2069 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 15: a bunch of injuries that year that was the two 2070 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 15: and fourteen year. But he came in a huddle and 2071 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,639 Speaker 15: you believed like you believed it, like we can get 2072 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 15: this done with this guy. And he made a lot 2073 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 15: of plays. He made a lot of mistakes. He made 2074 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 15: a lot of rookie mistakes, turned the ball over, things 2075 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 15: like that, not being able to see the hots and 2076 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 15: all that type stuff. But all he's done was gone 2077 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 15: to work and get better and better and better. He's 2078 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 15: gotten opportunities at other places and he's done well with 2079 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,680 Speaker 15: his opportunities. The reason why Case wasn't here initially got 2080 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160 Speaker 15: I think when they bringing a new coaching staff. You 2081 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 15: know he was drafted by or he wasn't drafted. He 2082 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 15: was an undrafted guy with Gary Kubiak regime. And so 2083 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,440 Speaker 15: once that happens and they bring in a Bill O'Brien, 2084 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 15: that's not your guy. You want to bring in one 2085 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 15: of the other one of your guys to be the 2086 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 15: undrafted guy that's on the roster. So that's why Case 2087 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 15: had to leave. Now eventually he came back, like he 2088 01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 15: did what he did in other places in Bill O'Brien's regime, 2089 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 15: brought him back here. To me, that says a lot 2090 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,639 Speaker 15: about a guy, like if you can, if you can 2091 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 15: be in an organization, I think I think Demps did 2092 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 15: that too. Q Demps did that too, Like where he 2093 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 15: was with the Kubiak regime. I think maybe Daniel Manny 2094 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 15: might have did that too. They were with the Kubiak regime, 2095 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 15: got let go eventually and then they came back with 2096 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 15: the Bill O'Brien regime. To me, if you can play 2097 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 15: in both, because there's it's a night and day scenario 2098 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 15: between the two. To me, you're you're you're a good 2099 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 15: football player because it's it's not just completely a scheme fit. 2100 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 15: There's things you bring to the table as a good 2101 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:53,759 Speaker 15: football player. 2102 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,799 Speaker 14: You also it teach you that lesson. Don't burn bridges, 2103 01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 14: you know when you leave somewhere. This is professional football, 2104 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,799 Speaker 14: it's a profession. You never know what's going to happen. 2105 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,800 Speaker 14: I was actually drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles. I was 2106 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,840 Speaker 14: cut by the Philadelphia Eagles when they brought in Hugh 2107 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 14: Douglas and I broke my hand and it hurt. But hey, 2108 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,720 Speaker 14: thank you for the opportunity. I appreciate y'all drafting me. 2109 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 14: I go to Washington and then after my rookie contracts up, 2110 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 14: I signed a five year deal back with Philadelphia. So 2111 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,720 Speaker 14: I always tell that to my kids, like, you never 2112 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 14: know what's going to happen, and you can't burn bridges 2113 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,120 Speaker 14: because you just don't know, you know how these things 2114 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 14: are gonna end up. So for you bringing up like 2115 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,479 Speaker 14: case Keenum, you know when he left, I'm sure he 2116 01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 14: said all the right things. 2117 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the right things. 2118 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 14: Danielle Manning Quintin Demps, who's now coaching at Judson University 2119 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 14: to Quintin Demps. 2120 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 4: But there's a lesson in life right there. Yeah. 2121 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,679 Speaker 15: I did not know that you got released by the Eagles. 2122 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,559 Speaker 15: I always thought you were the Eagles for like eight 2123 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 15: nine years and then you finished up here in Houston. 2124 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,120 Speaker 4: I didn't realize that that even at six. 2125 01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 14: Year, but they were like, nah, brother, you suck. I 2126 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 14: didn't release is the nice one? I was cut? But no, 2127 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 14: I was cut. Then I kind of found my legs 2128 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 14: in Washington and learned a lot in Washington. And I 2129 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,559 Speaker 14: was playing against Philly. One quick story, and this is 2130 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 14: before the whole concussion protocol. Obviously, it's early two thousands. 2131 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,960 Speaker 14: I was in Washington for three years and I signed 2132 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 14: a five year deal to go back to Philly. But 2133 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,479 Speaker 14: at first year back in Philly, a guard pool and 2134 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,959 Speaker 14: we just had this collision, and I was so dazed. 2135 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,400 Speaker 14: I looked at the Washington excuse me, the Washington huddle 2136 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,759 Speaker 14: and it was John Jansen, Chris Samuels, all my guys. 2137 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 14: So I'm just walking over there thinking it was I 2138 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 14: was at a practice or something, and I'll never get 2139 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 14: I saw the film, but I don't remember when it happened. 2140 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 14: But John Jansen kind of turned me around and pushed 2141 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,639 Speaker 14: me towards my Egle huddle and pointed like, no, you're 2142 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,280 Speaker 14: walking to the wrong huddle, and we just laughed about it. 2143 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,000 Speaker 14: You know, now, I would have been a game, you know, 2144 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,760 Speaker 14: I would have gone through some concussion protocol, but I 2145 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,760 Speaker 14: was so familiar with those guys that when I got hit, 2146 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 14: I was, oh, I supposed to be in this huddle, 2147 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,719 Speaker 14: even though they're on offense. 2148 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 15: But times of change, it's definitely a different world that 2149 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 15: you know, you hit somebody and you have that day 2150 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,600 Speaker 15: javu like, man, I've been here before, but then you 2151 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 15: haven't been here before, and that that's that that you 2152 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,320 Speaker 15: you look back on. It's like, man, I know I 2153 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,320 Speaker 15: had multiple concussions, and it was it's just something you 2154 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,639 Speaker 15: didn't really talk about or reported. It really didn't start 2155 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 15: coming in to play until after like the new CBA 2156 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 15: in twenty eleven, when they, you know, they started talking 2157 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 15: about playing safety more and they tried to give us 2158 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:37,879 Speaker 15: a little carrot with the with the off season workouts 2159 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 15: and all that type of stuff. That's when the really 2160 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,639 Speaker 15: concussions people started to pay attention to them. But there's 2161 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,760 Speaker 15: stories of when I look back on him, I kind 2162 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,959 Speaker 15: of feel bad about him. Like I remember Chris Meyers. 2163 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 15: I know he got a concussion. We didn't it never 2164 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 15: got diagnosed, but at the time it was just like, bro, 2165 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 15: you can't you can't leave right now, like, we don't 2166 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,320 Speaker 15: we need you right now, And it was and you 2167 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,639 Speaker 15: look back on and you feel like man was terrible 2168 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 15: to do. But when you're in it, yeah, when you're 2169 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 15: in it, When you're in it, it's just a different mentality, 2170 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,280 Speaker 15: like playing with broken ribs, broken bones, all that type 2171 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 15: of stuff, concussions. 2172 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 4: It was just it's part of the deal. 2173 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,760 Speaker 15: And like you said, it's just a completely different ball game, 2174 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 15: and hopefully it pays dividends for guys as far as 2175 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 15: their their post career health going forward in the future and. 2176 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 14: They're smarter because it wasn't even and I'm a little 2177 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,600 Speaker 14: bit older than you, but it wasn't even like we 2178 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 14: were trying to be tough. It was more, you know what, 2179 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 14: I could stand up, I can still run. I might 2180 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 14: not know my name, but you go out there and 2181 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 14: play where if you tear your ac l or break 2182 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 14: your leg, it's like I physically can't move. So but 2183 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 14: now that we know, like now, if you have too 2184 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 14: many of these, you know, at forty you might be 2185 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 14: forgetting your name and pissing on yourself. So I just 2186 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 14: think it's the knowledge. 2187 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Now. I know you like that, there's no question you 2188 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 1: like that. 2189 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 2: You like that you like it when ND talks to 2190 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 2: for a player, So make sure you're checking out the 2191 01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:00,880 Speaker 2: Texans OG's podcast Indie Clue, Love how having him as 2192 01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 2: part of everything that we do. Love Wade Smith Wade 2193 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,600 Speaker 2: done radio with him, shows with him, talk to. 2194 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Him all the time. 2195 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, just a great ambassador for this organization as 2196 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 2: is ND. So appreciate those guys for being by. Appreciate 2197 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,679 Speaker 2: Mark and Drew and Deep and Will Anderson who sang 2198 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 2: Adele tonight to Nick Cassario to West Durham, to all 2199 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,679 Speaker 2: of you for listening. 2200 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,599 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll be back tomorrow night. 2201 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 2: The General will be with us live before Thursday Night Football, 2202 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,840 Speaker 2: and then we'll carry it through the weekend and get 2203 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 2: ready for Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons. 2204 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,799 Speaker 1: From the at L. We'll see that everybody, and as always, 2205 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: go Texans.