Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. What's your name?
Speaker 1: My name is the Manny's name is Many. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a storia. I wasn't prepared for that. I'm French
Speaker 1: for my my English maybe not maybe not be the best.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're French Canadian?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Yeah, I'm French Canadian.
Speaker 3: How did that?
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Like was Canada? Well, I'm not really I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm doing by saying that. Okay, so Canada started
Speaker 2: out as like French people and then the English came
Speaker 2: and fucked them up? Or did it start out as
Speaker 2: English people and then the French came and sucked them up?
Speaker 2: Who's there first?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We started as the French people came here and
Speaker 1: then uh we went like from from Quebec to like Louisiana,
Speaker 1: and then the English people came in and you know,
Speaker 1: war and uh I guess, I guess war and they
Speaker 1: wanted to have like resources and stuff in there. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we got fucked. We loved the war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you texted me something. I thought it was
Speaker 2: very interesting. I wanted to talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, So yeah, I'm a nurse, and yeah, you.
Speaker 2: You texted me. You texted me and you said, I
Speaker 2: help people kill themselves via medical aid in dying. So
Speaker 2: you you help people with euthanasia and you said, quote,
Speaker 2: it's the most beautiful thing you can experience. Tell me
Speaker 2: more about this. I was fascinated by that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we've got here in Canada and Quebec, we we
Speaker 1: have the thing called the Medical Aid in Dying. So
Speaker 1: so basically you have to have a diagnosis of like
Speaker 1: maybe having like cancer or like you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: And when you're like you have three months left to live,
Speaker 1: like you have to know that you're going to die
Speaker 1: in like three to six months. The doctors come in
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yeah, do you want to have
Speaker 1: like like your tunisia like thing? You know. So so
Speaker 1: we go there. I go there, I talk with the
Speaker 1: family and the person and we signed paper. We get
Speaker 1: a date and and then yeah, man, you you choose
Speaker 1: the date. And it's it's different from like a palliative
Speaker 1: care because when you have palliative care is like you're
Speaker 1: on morphine, so you just get dazed out and you
Speaker 1: die like slowly. But when you have like the maid things.
Speaker 1: You're fully aware of what's going on. So like you
Speaker 1: have your date and your family member's friends and usually
Speaker 1: people do like a little party and you know, at
Speaker 1: two o'clock, we come in, we talk with you, we
Speaker 1: give you the injection, and that's it. Man.
Speaker 2: I have so many questions, but first I want to
Speaker 2: know what these parties are like. Are is there music?
Speaker 2: Is there food?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Usually people like to do like music and like
Speaker 1: artist that they like, put it on TV. And they
Speaker 1: have like a big buffet, you know, like like the
Speaker 1: food that they like. And usually it's like I have
Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty people. That's the good people. But not
Speaker 1: the good people, but I mean the the people that
Speaker 1: as like a big families. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: It's a party. It's what you can think of I
Speaker 1: don't know, like Thanksgiving or something like that.
Speaker 2: And I got the vibe at these parties. Are people
Speaker 2: like dancing and they're happy or are they kind of like, oh,
Speaker 2: our friend is gonna die.
Speaker 1: No, it's more like it's mixed because like people like
Speaker 1: Reminiscent a lot of like stories and you know, talk
Speaker 1: a lot about their their past. And one family, like
Speaker 1: I knew they were there like from six in the morning,
Speaker 1: and they all like went into the room of the
Speaker 1: guy and they all like confessed everything to their father.
Speaker 1: And you know, like when I said confessed, it mostly
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry about what I did, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Help you see you liked what I in my life?
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, that that one was a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you remember any particular confessions that people made on
Speaker 2: their deathbed that stuck out to you?
Speaker 1: Not because I'm not there the all time. I'm mostly
Speaker 1: there like thirty minutes before we give the injection, but
Speaker 1: I remembered not confession. But you know, sometimes like there's
Speaker 1: a there's probably madic because sometimes the people the guy
Speaker 1: like the person wants to die, but some of the
Speaker 1: family members don't want it to like they see it's
Speaker 1: mostly in their religious people, like some of them, they
Speaker 1: don't always accept the decision because some people see it
Speaker 1: like as a suicide kind of like but you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's more like of a value a value confrontation.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's hard sometimes for people to accept it.
Speaker 1: So I'd say the biggest confession I heard about was
Speaker 1: like spinning money, was stealing money, wasn't big of a thing.
Speaker 1: But I can imagine that sometimes people tell other things
Speaker 1: that they want don't want me or the doctor to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are these people? Typically? Are these elderly people?
Speaker 2: Or do you have any anyone come in there? Young?
Speaker 1: The young Goods that I had was fifty two. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of kind of young. Yeah, how do people?
Speaker 2: How do people? How do people feel when they're dying?
Speaker 1: Then they're usually when I was there, they're not scared
Speaker 1: until we came in with the injection, you know, like
Speaker 1: they're they're mostly they're not anxious. Their decision is made.
Speaker 1: I guess I personally don't know anybody who killed themselves,
Speaker 1: but I feel maybe that's what it's like at the end,
Speaker 1: like your your decision is made, you know what you
Speaker 1: want to do, and like you're doing it. So so
Speaker 1: they're kind of calm through throughout the day and everything.
Speaker 1: But when we came in with the injection, that's when
Speaker 1: you know, you can they're a little bit stressed and
Speaker 1: with the doctor and I'm the one that gives the
Speaker 1: doctor the syringe. We have to do it fast because
Speaker 1: you know, when you started, there's no turning back, you know,
Speaker 1: so so you don't want a guy to to like
Speaker 1: mid mid syringe say oh stuff, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do I don't want to do it. You know, they're
Speaker 1: they're aware of it. When we started, it's like we
Speaker 1: finished the session.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but you know, the thing is the thing
Speaker 1: that is beautiful I feel is you know, Telliative Care.
Speaker 1: Do you know anybody who like telliactive care.
Speaker 2: That's the version where you just kind of like die
Speaker 2: slowly in hospice.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, exactly, No no, because that that thing
Speaker 1: and is hard. You know, I'm doing it at home
Speaker 1: and man, it's a it's an hard toll on the family,
Speaker 1: Like they have to give them the and you know,
Speaker 1: the people can be the person can be like like
Speaker 1: three to four days unresponsive, but they're still breathing, and
Speaker 1: the breeding is like more like it's like they're they're
Speaker 1: drowning in their own you know, water inside their their lungs.
Speaker 1: So it's not a beautiful experience from what I see
Speaker 1: with the Maiden that it's more of like a celebration
Speaker 1: of life, you know, like they can talk to the
Speaker 1: people still, and yeah, it's it's a beautiful experience. I
Speaker 1: wasn't when I was set sick before when I started
Speaker 1: doing the missile care. But and the first time it
Speaker 1: was really weird.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I was there. The guy was around eighty eighty years
Speaker 1: old and they didn't have grandchildren. And I go over
Speaker 1: there and yeah, like a mementose and a lot of
Speaker 1: narrotse thing and it was my first time and I
Speaker 1: was just starting tool and I was like, what the funck?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What am I doing here? Was weird? Yeah, M.
Speaker 2: Is this a This sounds very Canadian. I don't think
Speaker 2: this is something that is this not available in America?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I know in someplace in Europe, like
Speaker 1: and Switzerland. I think they're doing doing it in Switzerland,
Speaker 1: but other than that, I don't. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: that I know that we just did the first time
Speaker 1: with the COVID this week, first time, not my not
Speaker 1: here at my where I work, but in Canada we
Speaker 1: did the first person who had a long COVID received
Speaker 1: the medical aid in death first time. So so you
Speaker 1: have to have some criteria, but we're like, we have
Speaker 1: some We have a democratic problem which people are an
Speaker 1: older and they don't die. So I feel like the
Speaker 1: government or like enlarging it to be like accessible for
Speaker 1: more people right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmm yeah. Now if you were diagnosed with cancer,
Speaker 2: would you want to go out like that? Or would
Speaker 2: you want to ride it out in the hospice?
Speaker 1: You know, I would do it like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would do it like that. I would do it. I
Speaker 1: would do it like on a boat or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. Because tell yetive care is a is a bummer.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a lot of pain and everything?
Speaker 2: Where do you think we go after we die? Do
Speaker 2: you believe in some form of afterlife?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I would like to, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. Like there's a thing like, uh, when
Speaker 1: you don't believe in God. I know, I don't know
Speaker 1: the expression, but it's like when you're on a plane,
Speaker 1: if you don't believe in God, well you're gonna believe
Speaker 1: on God when the plane is going to crash, Like
Speaker 1: you're trying to find to think that there is very
Speaker 1: there is somebody that can save you. So I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I would really like to, but in the end, it's
Speaker 1: it's only like a d M T thing that I'm
Speaker 1: buzzing find my own mind and I live for like
Speaker 1: five years and and you know if that's I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's something. I hope, I really do,
Speaker 1: I really do, do you.
Speaker 2: Well? We have data, sorry, we have we kind of know.
Speaker 2: We have experience not existing. For most of the time
Speaker 2: we've ever not been. For most of all the time
Speaker 2: that anything has ever been, we have not been. And
Speaker 2: for most of the time that anything ever will be,
Speaker 2: we will not be. So I assume that the most
Speaker 2: of the time that will forever be where we will
Speaker 2: not be is exactly the same as all of the
Speaker 2: time that ever was when we were not right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, makes sense, makes sense.
Speaker 2: Tell me more. What's the most beautiful thing that you
Speaker 2: have seen in uh? In helping people with this? Uh?
Speaker 1: The beautiful the most beautiful scene I'd say that I had.
Speaker 1: It was like the guy was from Europe and then
Speaker 1: he was in his house, but it was like a
Speaker 1: big house and with a big in a big room,
Speaker 1: and he was like downstairs, but he was looking upstairs
Speaker 1: and it was like, I don't know, there was stairs
Speaker 1: over there, and there were like twenty people at the
Speaker 1: top of the stairs and he was down downstairs with
Speaker 1: the doctor and when we started to give the injection,
Speaker 1: it was like, I feel like, I mean, what a
Speaker 1: beautiful painting? He said, yeah, what a beautiful painting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he felt like and you know, it was like Europeans.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like the the way he was
Speaker 1: talking was like very philosophical, but I don't know, like
Speaker 1: the maybe it was the accent. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't like my my weird accent.
Speaker 2: Wait wait you did you didn't like his accent?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was a beautiful accent, like he was
Speaker 1: talking in trench. But it was I think it was
Speaker 1: tweeded or something. So it was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like I don't know, like fine wine, you
Speaker 1: know that there was something in his accent. So it
Speaker 1: was beautiful when he said it. Yeah, and I try
Speaker 1: most of the time because it's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: emotion when you you're giving it. We and the doctor too,
Speaker 1: sometimes we have like a little watery eyes because it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a good it's a special
Speaker 1: jest or you know, it's a something. And they turned
Speaker 1: gray fast, you know, like in they turned gray fast
Speaker 1: to that. That's one of the things that the family
Speaker 1: tells us every time is they they are not prepared
Speaker 1: that in like two minutes they turned gray and you
Speaker 1: know they're they're dead. That's it. It was talking like
Speaker 1: five minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Their bodies turned gray.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their bodies. Yeah, their bodies. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh wow yeah yeah really how how how long have
Speaker 2: you been How long have you been doing this for.
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for a year now. Yeah. Before
Speaker 1: I was in a I did seven years in rehab
Speaker 1: and now I changed and I started doing this.
Speaker 2: Now. You say you cry after every time, do you think, yeah,
Speaker 2: there will come a time if you continue to do
Speaker 2: this where you will become desensitized to death and you'll
Speaker 2: be putting a guy down thinking about what you're going
Speaker 2: to have for dinner afterwards.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah sure, yeah. Yeah. It's like like you
Speaker 1: gets It's like you know when you start and you're
Speaker 1: in poop, like the first time you're cleaning somebody and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I'm cleaning poop. That's that's crazy,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I don't like it putting my hands in poop.
Speaker 1: Yeah good, Sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry I was making fun of Uh.
Speaker 1: No, no, sorry, no, go for it and I don't mind.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I was liking ship. You know, the
Speaker 1: first time you're like gagging and everything, and at the
Speaker 1: end you're like, man, it's only poop. I don't give
Speaker 1: a ship about the ship. So I think I would
Speaker 1: be like, like you said, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: say it in English, but I won't be as much
Speaker 1: as sensitive. But in the end, you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: get more attached of some people and the other you're like,
Speaker 1: it's only you're you're just giving them what they want,
Speaker 1: and you know it's part of the job. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I think I will. But in the end,
Speaker 1: it's you're you're not doing this everye like every day,
Speaker 1: like maybe once every year, two or three weeks. So
Speaker 1: it's not you're left, Oh you're.
Speaker 2: So you're you're doing this once every two or three weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: And what do you do? What are you doing at
Speaker 2: work when you're not doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm treating wounds. I'm treating like I'm giving them like
Speaker 1: injection medication. Yeah, that's that's like maybe the one third
Speaker 1: of my job. The other two third is I'm taking
Speaker 1: care of people, you know. Yeah, so so mostly because
Speaker 1: then here in Quebec, Canada. We have free health care,
Speaker 1: but free health care also means the government pays for everything.
Speaker 1: And when somebody is in the hospital, it costs a
Speaker 1: lot of money, so they prefer for them to stay
Speaker 1: at home. So that's when we get into picture, and
Speaker 1: it costs less money for the government for us to
Speaker 1: go to their place instead of them staying in the
Speaker 1: the the hospital.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it like working in the rehab for
Speaker 2: seven years? Was that more or less intense?
Speaker 1: Different? Man, because you have to do a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, you're one day I was doing rehab, but
Speaker 1: it was mostly people who had strokes and you know,
Speaker 1: so like physical rehab, so people have to you know,
Speaker 1: to go from being like a perfectly healthy person to
Speaker 1: to somebody who can't control half of his body and
Speaker 1: can't eat or can't speak or you know, they lose
Speaker 1: a lot of autonomy. So it was different. It was
Speaker 1: different because because half of the people, like they can't
Speaker 1: go back home even when they're young, like fifties, that
Speaker 1: those were the hard one, like in their forties or
Speaker 1: fifties that have a big stroke and you know, can't
Speaker 1: wipe their themselves anymore, you know, things like that. But
Speaker 1: the other for like people who who have like good
Speaker 1: rehab and go back home and just like try to
Speaker 1: start to be eating yelt again or you know, change
Speaker 1: a little bit of things. But yeah, that's it. It's different. Man.
Speaker 1: I was just I was doing I was there for
Speaker 1: seven years, and Indiana I needed to try something else.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I can be in Mark Carr
Speaker 1: and listen to a gecko going to some place to
Speaker 1: see a patience. So I can do that. I would
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: What's what's next for you on your journey? Do you
Speaker 2: think you're going to stay in uh in in made
Speaker 2: for for for for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think I can do another seven years. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm thirty one, so I started at
Speaker 1: twenty yeah, twenty four, so yeah, twenty two, twenty four, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can. I think I'm been doing another seven
Speaker 1: years and maybe I don't know, go work here with
Speaker 1: another doctor of some play else. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Why did you why seven years? Specifically? Is that like
Speaker 2: the amount of time you're allowed.
Speaker 1: To do it or no? No, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just it's like the time I give myself to try
Speaker 1: something to see if I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, that's a lot of time to give
Speaker 2: yourself to try something.
Speaker 1: Seven years. Yeah, no, yeah, sure, sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Seven is a is a great number. Seven. I'm giving
Speaker 1: myself another seven years.
Speaker 2: And Elsie, well, actually, I'm gonna do this real quick.
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Manny, Manny, I'm Manny. I'm gonna ask the the twitch
Speaker 2: chat that we are current least streaming on if they
Speaker 2: have any questions for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, right now, let's see if the twitch chat has
Speaker 2: any questions. Okay, we got a question. Anthony seventy nine
Speaker 2: in the chat asks if the hospital provides you therapy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we usually like do a little caucus caucus
Speaker 1: at the end of the when we give one, so
Speaker 1: we're like all the people that work with him, and
Speaker 1: we talk with each other for maybe like a couple
Speaker 1: of thirty minutes or an hour, depends on how the
Speaker 1: procedure went. But also yes, it's we have paid the
Speaker 1: psychological help if we want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people want to know if anyone
Speaker 2: ever backs out and changes their minds.
Speaker 1: Uh, you, it happened one time. But let's say if
Speaker 1: your date is like I don't know, the first of January,
Speaker 1: and you have three other times that you can like
Speaker 1: postpone it. So if you're like going up on the
Speaker 1: first of January and you're like, oh, I feel well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try another three months, so you can't
Speaker 1: do that. But usually when you're the when you can
Speaker 1: have the maid, usually you're not going to go over
Speaker 1: a year. So that's why I say, like, you can
Speaker 1: do it three times, but in the end you're going
Speaker 1: to die anyway, so there's no there's no miracle happening.
Speaker 1: When when you're yeah, there's no miracle, people are going
Speaker 1: to die.
Speaker 2: I think I think people are wondering, like like like
Speaker 2: as anyone ever like had the party and then the
Speaker 2: guy comes in with the syringe and then the person
Speaker 2: is like, wait, actually don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, nope, never never never never no.
Speaker 2: Okay, good because that's that's well you kind of you
Speaker 2: kind of alluded to that happened and that was terrible.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it it happened. Uh no. I
Speaker 1: had a case in particular. But the guy was like,
Speaker 1: we were gonna come like in the afternoon, and he
Speaker 1: called us and said you wanted it to be postponed,
Speaker 1: but in the same week you we came back because
Speaker 1: he wasn't well enough. And that's the other thing. If
Speaker 1: you want the maid, you have to be eligible. You
Speaker 1: have to be You cannot have Alzheimer or something or
Speaker 1: something like. You have to be aware or I don't
Speaker 1: know in English. Fuck, you have to be like oriented.
Speaker 1: You cannot be. It's not somebody else that can take
Speaker 1: the decision for you, Like, if you have Alzheimer, you
Speaker 1: cannot sign the paper, right, you have to.
Speaker 2: Be I guess you would. I guess mentally competent would
Speaker 2: be the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, uh, what's the worst part of the.
Speaker 1: Job, Uh paperwork? Wow?
Speaker 2: If this man has a job where he kills people
Speaker 2: and the worst part is paperwork?
Speaker 1: Yeah, paperwork, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I bet you do need to fill a lot of
Speaker 2: paperwork to kill people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah. Oh yeah, man. You have
Speaker 1: to protect yourself love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Final question. Do you enjoy maple syrup?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I do. Every day in my coffee, I
Speaker 1: put like one third of maple syrup. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: diabetic pretty.
Speaker 2: Sure because that try are you are you? Are you
Speaker 2: being facetious or do you really do that?
Speaker 1: No, for real, Yeah, every day.
Speaker 2: Every day you put I think whoever in the chat
Speaker 2: was just whoever asked that in the chat was just okay.
Speaker 2: Whoever asked that in the chat was almost certainly just joking.
Speaker 2: And then they got the answer that you put it
Speaker 2: in your coffee every day. You really put it in
Speaker 2: your coffee every day?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, every day. Maybe not one third, but every
Speaker 1: day I put coffee. I put it in my coffee.
Speaker 1: And it's like I take like there is like a
Speaker 1: I have a batch that is more thicker, so it
Speaker 1: tastes like a more and more sugar like, it tastes
Speaker 1: more of a sugar. So this one I put it
Speaker 1: in my coffee. And when it's more more of a
Speaker 1: lighter maple syrup, this is the one that you put
Speaker 1: on like pancakes and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you you'll take like Auntemima's and put it
Speaker 2: in your coffee.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah how about Well it's not INtime
Speaker 1: my mind. I mean it's the good stuff, like the
Speaker 1: good stuff, the stuff you buy at the Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: We get it. You Canadian, You're you're better than us
Speaker 2: kind of pretty much.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna try that. That sounds that sounds good.
Speaker 2: I mean I already put like, I mean, we're putting
Speaker 2: crazy shit in our cough area. They were putting like,
Speaker 2: you know, frosted frosted doughnut Reese's creamer in our year.
Speaker 2: So it's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I never went to Starbucks, but I heard
Speaker 1: about pump pumpkin spice, So I mean, what's the difference
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 2: Starbucks sucks? Even if if Starbucks ever came, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess like like I'd have to eat my words
Speaker 2: if Starbucks ever wanted to sponsor the show or whatever.
Speaker 2: But you know, until then, uh, I say, of my
Speaker 2: complete own volition, nobody paid. Dunkin Donuts is not in
Speaker 2: my pocket. I have to say. I fucking hate Starbucks.
Speaker 2: I hate how I hate their price to food size ratio.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know they they sell fucking cake pops, cake, They
Speaker 2: sell a bite of cake. Did they have this in Canada?
Speaker 2: They sell a bite a cake. It's called the cake
Speaker 2: pop and they sell it for four dollars. It's one
Speaker 2: bite a cake a slice for four dollars at some places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have tim Morton's. But since Dunkin Donut by
Speaker 1: bout it, it's not the thing.
Speaker 2: Wait, holy shit, Duncan Donuts bought Tim Hortons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's been like a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, four, four or five years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay. I also I have to say to you, of
Speaker 2: all those different chains like Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, Tim Hortons,
Speaker 2: tim Hortons is my favorite. Easy. That's better than the
Speaker 2: Dutch Bros. Or any of that shit. Tim Morton's is
Speaker 2: the best because they have all this. They have like
Speaker 2: savory stuff, sweet, they have like real if you want
Speaker 2: to go, If you want to get like a real
Speaker 2: fucking sandwich, at Starbucks, you're screwed. But at tim Horton's,
Speaker 2: they got you can get a bunch of you know,
Speaker 2: you can get your gross sugary eight hundred calorie drink
Speaker 2: and uh, you know some a grilled chicken rap or whatever.
Speaker 2: The fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you do?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: Basically, Basically, what I'm saying is you will be killing
Speaker 2: me very soon.
Speaker 1: All right, I like that, but you will do it
Speaker 1: the maiden if you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when I'm dying of acute diabetes or whatever,
Speaker 2: I want I want you to I want you to
Speaker 2: kill me.
Speaker 1: All right, all right? Would you do it in suit?
Speaker 2: No? I would not know when I when I die,
Speaker 2: burn all my gecko suits.
Speaker 1: All right, goodness, I remember that.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Manny? Uh?
Speaker 1: No? Man thanks and thanks for your patience with my
Speaker 1: with my accent, and hope you have a good time.
Speaker 1: Man Hey, have a good night, Manny, all right, see
Speaker 1: you bye?
Speaker 2: What else I mean? Yeah, Tim Hortons is good. I
Speaker 2: don't have anything. I don't have any other elaborations on that.
Speaker 2: Tim Hortons is good. Uh, Manny is good. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna die, that's the guy you want. That's
Speaker 2: the guy you want to kill. You there some of
Speaker 2: all people who have ever been murdered at the hands
Speaker 2: of another person, and like all those people that have
Speaker 2: murdered them. I think if I was going to pick
Speaker 2: a guy on this earth, who, if I was gonna
Speaker 2: pick out of all the people on the earth who
Speaker 2: kill like out of that sample size, I was gonna
Speaker 2: pick one of them to kill me, Manny would be
Speaker 2: at the top of my list. You know, I would
Speaker 2: rather be killed by him than like a Dahmer type
Speaker 2: of character. Hello, Yo, gek, what's up?
Speaker 3: I was literally just talking about you with my brother and.
Speaker 2: What were you saying to me? What were you saying?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: What were you saying about me?
Speaker 3: I had you up on Twitch and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: you ever hear about therapy? Get go? And He's like,
Speaker 3: what therapy?
Speaker 2: Gecko?
Speaker 3: What's that? And I'm like, Yo. People call into this
Speaker 3: with the wildest stuff to say, like longtime fan, first
Speaker 3: time caller. Oh, thanks hype that I got a hype
Speaker 3: that I got on with you. Man.
Speaker 2: Thanks man. I'm I'm I'm excited to uh to talk
Speaker 2: to you. Hold on, I'm trying to put I ah crap,
Speaker 2: hold on my my gecko gloves, Yeah, are kind of
Speaker 2: ripping apart. You want to know something funny actually is.
Speaker 4: I I was on Amazon buying another one of these
Speaker 4: costumes and I looked at the I looked at the
Speaker 4: fine print, and I saw something.
Speaker 2: That said only uh oh oh it said one time
Speaker 2: use only. So apparently, no, dude. So apparently like the
Speaker 2: costume was only made to be worn one time and
Speaker 2: then thrown away. So that's why these costumes like it,
Speaker 2: I I've worn one of these, like, you know, fifty
Speaker 2: times and it gets all fucked up and you know,
Speaker 2: ripped and stuff. Give me one second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. This is insane. I'm literally talking
Speaker 3: to him. You watching it right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it gets uh fucked up and ripped and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Blew my mind. I've been I've been
Speaker 2: doing this for four years, and I had no idea
Speaker 2: that these were one size. I know that there there
Speaker 2: one size fits all.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I've had uh people wear these, you know, guests and
Speaker 2: stuff that are like six five and yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm uh, I'm you know, five to one. And
Speaker 2: if it's me, so well, anyway, who gives a shit
Speaker 2: about my life? What's going on with you?
Speaker 3: I mean, four hundred and seventy eight people give a
Speaker 3: shit about your life? GEK, what you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just being lame. What's up with you? Man?
Speaker 3: I mean I'm chilling. I texted you two different things,
Speaker 3: and I guess it'll be up to you which one
Speaker 3: you want to talk about, whichever one you find more interested.
Speaker 2: All right, you wanted to do text to me and
Speaker 2: you said, I want to talk about how being a
Speaker 2: black nerd is now wholly accepted.
Speaker 3: Okay, we can do that one or if you want
Speaker 3: to do the other one.
Speaker 2: I texted you, all right, it sounds like you. It
Speaker 2: sounds like you have something you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 2: So you go ahead and you tell.
Speaker 3: Me okay, so the yeah let me, well, yeah, let's
Speaker 3: just do it. Fuck it forget. So when I was young,
Speaker 3: I've always had an interest in martial arts, and I've
Speaker 3: always done martial arts as a kid, right, grew up
Speaker 3: doing it. Dad put me in it, freaking did it
Speaker 3: through school, joined the military, joined the Marines, got out,
Speaker 3: and really started investing myself in martial arts. Right, I
Speaker 3: started trying to do it professionally. I was training at
Speaker 3: a gym, at a pretty high end gym too. There
Speaker 3: were a lot of high level fighters that were there.
Speaker 3: I don't know how familiar you are with MMA, but
Speaker 3: like Frankie Edgar was there, Edson Barboza was.
Speaker 2: There as familiar with MMA as I look.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough man. So So I was dating
Speaker 3: this girl and she took an interest in martial arts
Speaker 3: as well, right, but she went to a different school
Speaker 3: than our own. Personal thing. I don't like having people
Speaker 3: in my space, I'm doing stuff like that, right, So
Speaker 3: she went to a different school, and long story short,
Speaker 3: she ended up cheating on me with one of the
Speaker 3: dudes there. Right, sucks huge balls, I know, through me
Speaker 3: kind of in for a loop, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know, kind of mess me up
Speaker 3: a little bit. But doing martial arts.
Speaker 5: Really helped me do that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So there are local tournaments right for different styles like
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu and boxing and boy Thai and things like that.
Speaker 3: So instead of like acting instead of acting out, I
Speaker 3: ended up signing up at every tournament that him and
Speaker 3: his school went to with me and my teammates and
Speaker 3: made sure that they never want to medal for the
Speaker 3: next like two years. And then him specifically me and
Speaker 3: him fought in MMA and in boxing. So I kind
Speaker 3: of got my little like karate kid moment to kind
Speaker 3: of get my revenge and like, you know, like my
Speaker 3: little Rocky Balboa karate kid moment, and like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I always thought it was a funny way to kind
Speaker 3: of like how it all played out was absolutely hilarious
Speaker 3: and like a storybook almost, right, I think storybook was.
Speaker 2: It you were trying to live out like like an
Speaker 2: eighties movie where the guy steals your girl and so
Speaker 2: you challenge him to.
Speaker 3: A duel, except I didn't challenge him. We would just
Speaker 3: be there right, like the tournament you.
Speaker 2: Have to sign up. The way the way you phrased
Speaker 2: it was that you went out of your way to
Speaker 2: make sure. Okay, that's yeah, that's like subjecting someone to
Speaker 2: a duel more than oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: It was more like, hey, I'm in your hood, you
Speaker 3: better be here, right, Like.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you the same are I have a few questions?
Speaker 2: Are you the same weight class as this guy?
Speaker 3: Yes, within we're within like ten fifteen pounds of each other.
Speaker 3: So anywhere that he could go, I could go.
Speaker 2: Then when when you went to fight him, did he
Speaker 2: know that you were? You were? You had? He this
Speaker 2: his your girlfriend had cheated on you with him.
Speaker 3: She He didn't know at first until like the fourth
Speaker 3: or fifth time that I like specifically ended up matching
Speaker 3: up with him. Oh so like so the first two times,
Speaker 3: the first two tournaments that I followed him to, we
Speaker 3: ended up facing off early and I beat him whole hot.
Speaker 3: I beat him soundly right, submitted him in the first one,
Speaker 3: and then the second one, I beat him on points, right,
Speaker 3: And so the second time when I beat him on points,
Speaker 3: I like completely held him down, dominated the whole round, giggity,
Speaker 3: but I like stepped over him kind of disrespectfully and
Speaker 3: looked back at him when I was walking away. So
Speaker 3: like his coaches understood, like, okay, there's something going on here.
Speaker 3: And then when it happened again two more times, right,
Speaker 3: they were like, okay, what is going on? And so
Speaker 3: my coaches start asking me like, hey, are you okay?
Speaker 3: Do you have like an issue with this guy? And
Speaker 3: I was like, I fucking do. So the next time
Speaker 3: we can get into a boxing match, let me know,
Speaker 3: so I can suck him up.
Speaker 2: Are you were you about? Are you about to go?
Speaker 2: Are you about to go tyson on him and bite
Speaker 2: his fucking ear off.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to bite his ear off, but I
Speaker 3: did want to make sure that I wanted him to know, like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in pain, right, So, like and to
Speaker 3: a little bit of a caveat, I'm not like this normally, right, marshal.
Speaker 3: Let's I'm very disciplined. I'm very like, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't really do that. I don't go out of my
Speaker 3: way to fight somebody. This just kind of happened, like.
Speaker 2: You wait, hold on, you just told me a story
Speaker 2: about you, like veheomly going out of your way to
Speaker 2: fight somebody. What do you mean you don't go You
Speaker 2: literally went out of your way to fight this guy?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's fine. I'm not like,
Speaker 2: it's not like like whatever. I'm not judging about it,
Speaker 2: but that that's not a lie that you don't get it.
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, I guess without provocation, right, without provocation,
Speaker 3: I won't just go and be like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: fight you. You know, I'm usually a pretty chill guy.
Speaker 3: But in the UH, in the boxing match, I got
Speaker 3: to train with a lot of cool people. I got
Speaker 3: to train with, uh this man named Mark Henry, who
Speaker 3: was one of the like a very high level Olympic training.
Speaker 3: He trained like the Olympic boxing team at one point.
Speaker 3: So being able to train with him, and I was
Speaker 3: learning so much and fighting him in boxing. I hit
Speaker 3: him in his rib cage and I felt his rib
Speaker 3: move and then when he crumpled to the ground, it
Speaker 3: was shaky, right like I felt my heart skip of
Speaker 3: I felt my heart skip a beat, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Because I was like, damn, did he just die?
Speaker 3: But like he was like just wheezing kind of hard,
Speaker 3: and then I walked away. I got like I got
Speaker 3: separated from him, right, and then he didn't get back
Speaker 3: up after that, so well, Jesus. After after I heard
Speaker 3: he wanted to do an MMA fight. And at that
Speaker 3: time I was one sixty one and I was fighting
Speaker 3: at one fifty five and he was like one seventy.
Speaker 3: So I just ate. I just ate like crazy. I'm
Speaker 3: talking two breakfast is a day. I had a huge lunch,
Speaker 3: a huge dinner, just so I could wake up and
Speaker 3: be like one seventy.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, you know what I've been I actually,
Speaker 2: well I haven't been watching it lately. My friends showed
Speaker 2: it to me and so I spent one evening watching it.
Speaker 2: But do you know, do you know what st I
Speaker 2: think it's called Street Beefs is your streets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be honest, get I'm not a huge fan
Speaker 3: of street beefts.
Speaker 2: Okay, well before we before we talk about it, Stree
Speaker 2: is like, okay, I watched it once. Street Beefs is like, uh,
Speaker 2: this back I guess it's a backyard. Mm A, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no sanctions. It's but it's kind of like there's
Speaker 2: a ring and you know, there's uh, I guess, respect
Speaker 2: between the It's not like a street fight where it's
Speaker 2: like two dudes who like got pissed off at each
Speaker 2: other and started fighting it. But it is it's like
Speaker 2: an organized fighting thing. And and yeah, well so a
Speaker 2: why don't you why don't you like street beefs?
Speaker 3: Uh? The lack it's not even so much a lack
Speaker 3: of skill or anything like that. It just seems a
Speaker 3: little what's the word, like low brow, I guess, And
Speaker 3: I mean for a certain crowd, like, yeah, you love it, right,
Speaker 3: you want to just watch people knock each other out
Speaker 3: all the time, which cool, you know, But it's like
Speaker 3: it's like watching bum fights. I remember like bum fights
Speaker 3: from back in the day.
Speaker 2: Well, but but isn't okay. I don't understand though, is
Speaker 2: well bum fights is fuck it's different because the those
Speaker 2: are people fighting, like those would be like have to
Speaker 2: fight for a money. But this is like a street
Speaker 2: beefs seems to me like two people who both like
Speaker 2: have invested themselves in the sport of boxing or MMA
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck it is and want to fight
Speaker 2: each other how But how is bottle? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not defending anything. I'm just this is
Speaker 2: just my way. But so, but like, I guess, is
Speaker 2: that not when you're watching that ship and you're watching
Speaker 2: MMA where it's also like two guys brutally beating the
Speaker 2: fuck out of each other and bleeding, is it? How
Speaker 2: can one be high brow one below brow when at
Speaker 2: the end of the day it's both two guys who
Speaker 2: have decided to fight each other beating the shit out
Speaker 2: of each other.
Speaker 3: Well you could if you look at like the high
Speaker 3: level MMA guys, right, you can see some sort of
Speaker 3: artistry there, and like, obviously you got your rawlers, you
Speaker 3: got your like in guys who swings for the fences, right,
Speaker 3: everyone loves that. But you also have mixed in like
Speaker 3: real artists, you know what I mean. You have people
Speaker 3: who are throwing like crazy head kicks or crazy combos
Speaker 3: and you woke them up, and you're like, I can't
Speaker 3: believe that.
Speaker 2: I've seen some I don't know, bro, I've seen some
Speaker 2: art on street beefs. I've seen a dude like do
Speaker 2: a roundhouse kick to the face, and I'm like, that
Speaker 2: guy practiced that this is like a skill that he's developed.
Speaker 2: They're not just you know, weighing it.
Speaker 3: And it's just like the matchmaking also behind it is
Speaker 3: kind of bad because you'll see a lot of one
Speaker 3: sided like fights and people getting knocked out. Really bad.
Speaker 2: No, but the one, but the one, okay, I I okay,
Speaker 2: there's one fight that I watched. Oh god, yeah there's
Speaker 2: one I remember. I forget the name of the fighter.
Speaker 2: It was like little something uh or baby something shit,
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name, but I remember there's a
Speaker 2: fight between this guy and like some other guy, and
Speaker 2: the other guy had maybe an entire foot of height,
Speaker 2: maybe even like a foot and a half a fight
Speaker 2: at Oh yeah, no, it was literally like a little
Speaker 2: mac fighting fucking king hippo or whatever. And the guy,
Speaker 2: the guy who was the tinier guy fucking won. Dude.
Speaker 2: He got he like and he was he did. It
Speaker 2: was like watching like you know, Shadow of Colossus, where
Speaker 2: like the little tiny guy with the sword takes down
Speaker 2: a giant fucking dude. It was like watching a boss fight,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And he got him onto
Speaker 2: the ground and he started beating him up and he
Speaker 2: won the fight. So I was like, oh, Okay, I
Speaker 2: guess there's there's gotta be something to that. There's gotta
Speaker 2: be uh as this guy learned how to do this,
Speaker 2: of course. Well here's another thing though, Here's another thing
Speaker 2: I like is I watched one of it was just
Speaker 2: these two guys. They're pretty equal and uh they were
Speaker 2: they were. It was a pretty brutal fight and they're
Speaker 2: both bleeding at the end of it. But at the
Speaker 2: very end they like they were like they were like
Speaker 2: uh uh. There was a lot of camaraderie, Like they
Speaker 2: hugged each other, they shook hands, there was very it
Speaker 2: was a very uh, brotherly kind of a thing. You
Speaker 2: could tell these two guys, even though you just watch
Speaker 2: them viciously hurt each other, that they like loved each
Speaker 2: norm it was weird. It was interesting.
Speaker 3: Most combat sports, that's honestly the norm. You know, you
Speaker 3: get all that energy out and then you're dapping each
Speaker 3: other up at the end and shit's cool. Like it's
Speaker 3: a sport at the end of the day, right, So
Speaker 3: it's just competition, so both people know, both parties know
Speaker 3: what they're doing coming in, so there's no real hard
Speaker 3: feelings behind it, you know.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I feel like okay to me.
Speaker 2: But the biggest fights that I see advertised, like what
Speaker 2: like yeah, when uh on a Logan Paul fights Mike
Speaker 2: when Logan usually and usually any time I see a
Speaker 2: fight advertising, it's like logan Paul versus someone, and usually
Speaker 2: Logan Paul and whoever he's fighting hate each other, right,
Speaker 2: like him and Mike Tyson or whatever they're they're talking
Speaker 2: about a ship back and yeah, right, So I feel
Speaker 2: like that, but like the biggest like like no, I
Speaker 2: feel like, no, that's that's just that that just doesn't
Speaker 2: generate publicity. These two guys are really good friends and
Speaker 2: they're gonna see which one's a better fighter. That doesn't
Speaker 2: generate as much hype. I don't think as these as
Speaker 2: as this guy's girlfriend cheated on him with this other
Speaker 2: guy and now they're gonna fight.
Speaker 3: Very true. I get what you're saying, and like, as
Speaker 3: a fan, I like both sides. Like I like when
Speaker 3: fighters can be respectful and I like when fighters talk
Speaker 3: a little shit, you know what I mean? I like
Speaker 3: I like both. I'm on both sides of the coin,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Are you have you ever gotten into a street brawl?
Speaker 2: Have you ever? No?
Speaker 3: Not never in my life, I've never fought in the
Speaker 3: streets like that.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good. Yeah, those those videos are sad.
Speaker 2: They're like street yeah yeah, street beafs is like okay,
Speaker 2: these people like trained for this, they agreed to do
Speaker 2: it whatever, like just regular ass street fights that they
Speaker 2: they're sad because they're they're there's definitely like exactly you know,
Speaker 2: legit like anger exactly there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But to circle back real quick, like after the
Speaker 3: like two jiu jitsu matches, he understood what was happening,
Speaker 3: like he knew like he because she told him, because
Speaker 3: after I broke up with her, like she told him,
Speaker 3: And after the second like jiu jitsu match, he knew
Speaker 3: what was happening. So him taking the boxing match and
Speaker 3: him taking the MMA fight, like he you have to
Speaker 3: accept that fight, Like it's not like I just show
Speaker 3: up and it's like, hey, peekaboo, I'm here, Like you
Speaker 3: know it's me. You have to train for me and
Speaker 3: we're meeting together. We both know this, right, So.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: Very cathartic for me, right, And it was like one
Speaker 3: of the only times that I've ever had to that
Speaker 3: I've ever experienced anything like that. You know what I mean, Well.
Speaker 2: How many times did you fight this dude?
Speaker 3: Five total, across three different disciplines?
Speaker 2: Did you and you beat them every time?
Speaker 3: Every single time?
Speaker 2: Gek, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Wow, I was. I was in a different space, but
Speaker 3: I don't know, party like things back on it because
Speaker 3: I'm like, go ahead, kind of petty, you know, now
Speaker 3: you go ahead. You look it's like damn. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: like damn, it's kind of kind of petty, you know.
Speaker 3: But like, you know, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I want to get
Speaker 3: my feet wet in this, and this is the way
Speaker 3: that I could do it, and I don't know, I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have part of me things like, yeah, you shouldn't
Speaker 3: have done that. You should have been a little more mature,
Speaker 3: you know, better about yourself. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: it's competition, fuck them trying to get my shit doing.
Speaker 3: But also yeah, like I should probably not be not
Speaker 3: be petty like that.
Speaker 2: Right, How many h How long ago was this? That's
Speaker 2: what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 3: Oh, this was definitely years ago, less than a decade,
Speaker 3: but more than about five years ago. I'm thirty five now,
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, I'm thirty five. Now I'm a little
Speaker 3: too old to be doing all that. So like it
Speaker 3: was yeah, yeah, years years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a new girlfriends?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have a lovely girlfriend now. She's amazing, beautiful, funny, cute,
Speaker 3: but chaotic energy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Did you meet her a hinge?
Speaker 3: Actually? Interestingly enough, Yeah, the hinge thing was, all right, what.
Speaker 2: Do you have a picture of yourself like like shirtless
Speaker 2: wearing boxing gloves on your hinge?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, what really you don't, buddy, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, because like it's it's kind of I don't know,
Speaker 3: I've never seen anyone have that type of picture up there,
Speaker 3: And I personally like I don't want to be clown
Speaker 3: like that, you know, like not that I don't have
Speaker 3: a nice body or anything, but I'm not too I'm
Speaker 3: a little self conscious about just showing it off like that. Sure,
Speaker 3: so I kinda like I don't do don't do that.
Speaker 3: I had like military pictures and shit like that, but
Speaker 3: I never put like a shirtless picture or anything like
Speaker 3: I never did that.
Speaker 2: Wall see. Okay, so you're more embarrassed of the shirtless
Speaker 2: boxing picture than of the military picture.
Speaker 3: Now, the military picture was me, like you, I was
Speaker 3: holding like a fledgehammer, right, I think I like broke
Speaker 3: open a lock, and my buddy like took a picture.
Speaker 3: There wasn't anything like crazy about the picture. It's just
Speaker 3: me holding a sledgehammer.
Speaker 2: You know that's cool. Well, you sound like a happy person.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Gek, I really am part of it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, is talking to you like that's that's a total
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it just in your real life, in
Speaker 2: your you talking to me is twenty minutes of a
Speaker 2: of a thirty five year long life span in which
Speaker 2: you seem as though you've been relatively happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I've been Uh yeah, I've been happy. You know,
Speaker 3: I've lived a pretty interesting ish life, so I could
Speaker 3: say I'm pretty happy dude.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, well, thanks for sharing your story with us, sir.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe one day, maybe one day we can fight.
Speaker 3: I like you, man, I don't want to fight you.
Speaker 3: I'll help you, I'll teach you how to fight. You know,
Speaker 3: but you're cool, dude. I want to. I want to.
Speaker 2: I wanna say I'm sorry you're saying you say you
Speaker 2: don't think I could You don't think I could like
Speaker 2: hold my own.
Speaker 3: No, I think you could. But like you're a nice guy,
Speaker 3: and I don't like to fight guys. I like, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you're a cool dude, and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like you know, I wouldn't have that energy
Speaker 3: towards you.
Speaker 2: I'll say this real quick before we go. I actually
Speaker 2: did box once.
Speaker 3: How did you like it?
Speaker 2: So in the summer of twenty twenty one, I went
Speaker 2: all around, uh the country filming footage for this like
Speaker 2: documentary series that never what we never ended up actually making.
Speaker 2: But uh, one of the things was that I boxed
Speaker 2: somebody in Denver in the Gecko suit.
Speaker 3: How did it feel?
Speaker 2: So? I was so initially with boxing, I was worried
Speaker 2: about getting hit in the face. That's what I was
Speaker 2: most scared of. It was like, Oh, I don't want
Speaker 2: to box this guy to get to get punched in
Speaker 2: the fucking face. But what really? But and I realized, Oh,
Speaker 2: the actual part of it that sucks is the stamina, yes,
Speaker 2: which is and that's and I and I was I
Speaker 2: was actually blown away because like, you know, i'd be
Speaker 2: fighting a guy like we we're like, I would be
Speaker 2: boxing for like, what less than a minute and we're
Speaker 2: not It's not even like I'm not like doing crazy
Speaker 2: lizard moves. I'm not running in circles around him. I'm
Speaker 2: literally just standing in place or maybe like whatever. And
Speaker 2: and afterwards I'm like, out of breath? Is this I
Speaker 2: just like sprinted around the track or something. I thought
Speaker 2: it was crazy? Like, how am I so out of
Speaker 2: breath after not even moving?
Speaker 3: Crazy?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Do I have any lizard moves? You gotta
Speaker 2: fucking see me in the octagon to find that ship out, I'll.
Speaker 3: Fly out to Philly Post.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm totally bluffing. I do not I don't
Speaker 2: want to go.
Speaker 3: No, I'm a nice Scott brother.
Speaker 2: Well, what's your name again?
Speaker 3: You can call me Ace?
Speaker 2: Ace. Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: People of the computer, I hope you're having a great day.
Speaker 3: Hug your mom, drink water, try to do a kickflip
Speaker 3: bang bang bang bang. Thanks Tommy.
Speaker 2: And that was the most Joe Rogan experience the conversation
Speaker 2: I've had on this podcast. Hello, what is your name, sir?
Speaker 5: My name is Brett.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Brett?
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm kind of in an interesting situation here. So
Speaker 5: just for some context, I was raised very religious Mormon
Speaker 5: on my dad's side, and I am not myself. In fact,
Speaker 5: like growing up through life, I kind of learned that
Speaker 5: not only am I not religious, I don't subscribe to
Speaker 5: their beliefs. I've also learned that I'm polyamorous. And it's
Speaker 5: you know, I'm thirty two years old now, and some
Speaker 5: people know, my close friends know, my mom's side knows,
Speaker 5: some siblings know, but I feel like largely the entirety
Speaker 5: of my dad's side doesn't know. And I'm kind of
Speaker 5: in this weird spot where like I want to tell them,
Speaker 5: because you know, part of living this lifestyle is, you know,
Speaker 5: being your true authentic self, and but at the same time,
Speaker 5: they just wouldn't get it. And I keep getting, you know,
Speaker 5: invited to a religious family gatherings and birthdays and whatnot,
Speaker 5: and it's just so draining to want to decline all
Speaker 5: of them because I just had nothing in common with
Speaker 5: any of them. So I don't know what.
Speaker 2: So let's start here. Tell me how the polyamorous lifestyle is.
Speaker 2: Go under you stoked about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm him with my fiance right now, we've been
Speaker 5: poll together. We actually discovered it together about three years
Speaker 5: ago and going strong.
Speaker 2: Very cool, And so I guess, like, are you afraid
Speaker 2: that something particularly bad will happen if you tell your
Speaker 2: dad that you are polyamorous?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't actually know. So, like, you know, the Mormon side,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of them, right, My dad is one
Speaker 5: of nine kids, and each of those kids has kids,
Speaker 5: and some of those kids have kids, and it all
Speaker 5: kind of stems from the empire that is my Mormon
Speaker 5: grandparents who have a very who have a very hard
Speaker 5: time understanding that anybody would not want to be a Mormon.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like, if one of them finds out,
Speaker 5: all of them find out, and then I just, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't really at the end of the day, I
Speaker 5: don't really care what each of these people individually think
Speaker 5: of me. Yeah, but it's kind of it's kind of like,
Speaker 5: am I ready for my relationship with twenty five people
Speaker 5: to change all at once?
Speaker 2: Let me this This might be kind of a redundant question,
Speaker 2: but I think it's important. I mean, put, simply, do
Speaker 2: you want to tell them?
Speaker 5: I I I would like to live in a world
Speaker 5: where I'm not harboringing secrets, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's free.
Speaker 5: I don't of course, I haven't told them yet because
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like they deserve or need to know.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, it's I'll get
Speaker 5: invited to a family bird birthday and I just I
Speaker 5: don't want to go. I end up finding some excuse,
Speaker 5: and then it's the next time. Then I keep getting told.
Speaker 2: By that well look look, look man, so look I
Speaker 2: mean this, it's not like you're sixteen and you got
Speaker 2: to harbor a secret or else you'll get kicked out
Speaker 2: of the house. You know. Yeah, yeah, You're thirty two
Speaker 2: years old, and at this point I kind of you know, I,
Speaker 2: I guess you have to ask yourself and you got
Speaker 2: to think about, deep down if you would feel better
Speaker 2: having told your dad that you are polyamorous. You know,
Speaker 2: by the way, I am I mistaken. I thought that
Speaker 2: Mormons were polyamorous. I thought that was like the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, because I remember, because like I've done
Speaker 2: shows in Utah and talk to people and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my dad has like six wives, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: because isn't that a Mormon thing? That wouldn't. I would
Speaker 2: think your parents will be proud of you for that.
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's kind of you know, in the
Speaker 5: deep rooted Mormon history it was a polygamy, not polyamory.
Speaker 5: But but also, you know, when you start to look
Speaker 5: at a lot of the other things in the deep
Speaker 5: Mormon history, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's an angle that you could do.
Speaker 2: You could come out as polyamorous, but like present it
Speaker 2: as if you're actually super fucking Mormon, you're even more
Speaker 2: Mormon than them that you have multiple wives.
Speaker 5: In fact, you guys can learn from me and my moreabilities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, look at.
Speaker 2: It exactly, So you could look at it like that,
Speaker 2: But look ultimately, I mean really, you know again, you know,
Speaker 2: I really can't tell you what to do in this situation,
Speaker 2: but you kind of you kind of have the questions
Speaker 2: that you got to think about, right, Yeah, which are
Speaker 2: I'm thirty two, I have no way past having room
Speaker 2: in my life for bullshit or caring about what other
Speaker 2: people think about me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I'm there too. It's just you know,
Speaker 5: it's to me, it's a quantity thing. It's a numbers thing.
Speaker 5: If it was just my dad, you know who cares.
Speaker 5: But it's that whole clan over there, you know. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 2: I bet out of twenty out of twenty six people,
Speaker 2: a few of them are also harboring some secret wives.
Speaker 5: I'm sure, Oh, I bet you. You know there's some
Speaker 5: stuff that I have you know, inklings about, but you know,
Speaker 5: I can't be sure. But you know, it's largely a
Speaker 5: religion based on, hey, do this thing that you've been
Speaker 5: taught since you were a child, don't ask questions, and
Speaker 5: when it comes time, make as many children as you
Speaker 5: can to pass that off on to them. And a
Speaker 5: lot of them just have have eaten that cake. And
Speaker 5: it's just you know, I try to distance myself from
Speaker 5: it in every way that I can.
Speaker 2: So well, look, brother, you are technically fulfilling the Mormon
Speaker 2: duty to have a big family. So I hope you
Speaker 2: take some bass in that.
Speaker 3: Here you go.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: I would just say you you don't have to be
Speaker 5: what people tell you you are. You know you might be.
Speaker 5: You might grow up and be told you're one thing
Speaker 5: and be told you have to believe this and be
Speaker 5: told you have to do this, but I am here
Speaker 5: to tell you that you don't.
Speaker 2: Hey, you have a good night, man, Thanks you too.
Speaker 2: The Mormon thing is funny because my like first exposure
Speaker 2: to Mormons was South Park and like all the all
Speaker 2: the you know they have, they got the Book of
Speaker 2: Mormon and they got all the Mormons like in the show,
Speaker 2: and South Park like really portrays Mormons as like very nice,
Speaker 2: wholesome people. So that was what I got my impression
Speaker 2: of them for most of my life, and then I'm
Speaker 2: sure this was shattered before that. But I remember I
Speaker 2: did this show in Utah. It's Salt Lake City is
Speaker 2: like the Mormon headquarters, and everyone I interviewed at the
Speaker 2: show just had a story of some horrible, horrible thing
Speaker 2: from their parents' childhood like this. One guy talked about
Speaker 2: how his dad made him slaughter a hundred rabbits to
Speaker 2: prepare for the apocalypse and crazy shit like that. So
Speaker 2: I guess that illusion has been kind of shattered in
Speaker 2: a way. But I don't know, maybe this I don't know.
Speaker 2: One time I was at a Chinese buffet and I
Speaker 2: saw a guy wearing the Mormon missionary outfit and I
Speaker 2: looked at him. I was like, hey man, you Mormon.
Speaker 2: He was like yeah, and he kind of smiled at me.
Speaker 2: And that was the whole interaction. But he seemed like
Speaker 2: a nice guy. That's it, that's all I got.
Speaker 1: Everythin goes on the line, taking your phone calls every nine,
Speaker 1: everything goes to.
Speaker 2: His eye was teachings.
Speaker 3: He's looking like, but he's not really an expert.