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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. What's your name?

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Speaker 1: My name is the Manny's name is Many. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have a storia. I wasn't prepared for that. I'm French

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Speaker 1: for my my English maybe not maybe not be the best.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, how are you doing? Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're French Canadian?

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Yeah, I'm French Canadian.

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Speaker 3: How did that?

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Speaker 2: How does that work?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: Like was Canada? Well, I'm not really I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing by saying that. Okay, so Canada started

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Speaker 2: out as like French people and then the English came

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Speaker 2: and fucked them up? Or did it start out as

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Speaker 2: English people and then the French came and sucked them up?

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Speaker 2: Who's there first?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We started as the French people came here and

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Speaker 1: then uh we went like from from Quebec to like Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: and then the English people came in and you know,

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Speaker 1: war and uh I guess, I guess war and they

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Speaker 1: wanted to have like resources and stuff in there. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we got fucked. We loved the war.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you texted me something. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: very interesting. I wanted to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, So yeah, I'm a nurse, and yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: You texted me. You texted me and you said, I

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Speaker 2: help people kill themselves via medical aid in dying. So

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Speaker 2: you you help people with euthanasia and you said, quote,

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Speaker 2: it's the most beautiful thing you can experience. Tell me

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Speaker 2: more about this. I was fascinated by that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we've got here in Canada and Quebec, we we

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Speaker 1: have the thing called the Medical Aid in Dying. So

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Speaker 1: so basically you have to have a diagnosis of like

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Speaker 1: maybe having like cancer or like you know, things like that.

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Speaker 1: And when you're like you have three months left to live,

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Speaker 1: like you have to know that you're going to die

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Speaker 1: in like three to six months. The doctors come in

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Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yeah, do you want to have

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Speaker 1: like like your tunisia like thing? You know. So so

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Speaker 1: we go there. I go there, I talk with the

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Speaker 1: family and the person and we signed paper. We get

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Speaker 1: a date and and then yeah, man, you you choose

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Speaker 1: the date. And it's it's different from like a palliative

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Speaker 1: care because when you have palliative care is like you're

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Speaker 1: on morphine, so you just get dazed out and you

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Speaker 1: die like slowly. But when you have like the maid things.

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Speaker 1: You're fully aware of what's going on. So like you

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Speaker 1: have your date and your family member's friends and usually

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Speaker 1: people do like a little party and you know, at

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Speaker 1: two o'clock, we come in, we talk with you, we

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Speaker 1: give you the injection, and that's it. Man.

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Speaker 2: I have so many questions, but first I want to

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Speaker 2: know what these parties are like. Are is there music?

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Speaker 2: Is there food?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Usually people like to do like music and like

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Speaker 1: artist that they like, put it on TV. And they

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Speaker 1: food that they like. And usually it's like I have

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Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty people. That's the good people. But not

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Speaker 1: the good people, but I mean the the people that

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Speaker 1: It's a party. It's what you can think of I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like Thanksgiving or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And I got the vibe at these parties. Are people

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Speaker 1: No, it's more like it's mixed because like people like

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Speaker 1: Reminiscent a lot of like stories and you know, talk

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Speaker 1: a lot about their their past. And one family, like

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Speaker 1: guy and they all like confessed everything to their father.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like when I said confessed, it mostly

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Speaker 1: like I'm sorry about what I did, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Help you see you liked what I in my life?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember any particular confessions that people made on

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Speaker 2: their deathbed that stuck out to you?

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Speaker 1: Not because I'm not there the all time. I'm mostly

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Speaker 1: So I'd say the biggest confession I heard about was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are these people? Typically? Are these elderly people?

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Speaker 2: Or do you have any anyone come in there? Young?

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Speaker 1: The young Goods that I had was fifty two. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: How do people? How do people feel when they're dying?

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Speaker 1: Then they're usually when I was there, they're not scared

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Speaker 1: I guess I personally don't know anybody who killed themselves,

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Speaker 1: but I feel maybe that's what it's like at the end,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of calm through throughout the day and everything.

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Speaker 1: But when we came in with the injection, that's when

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Speaker 1: you know, you can they're a little bit stressed and

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Speaker 1: they're aware of it. When we started, it's like we

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fucking terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but you know, the thing is the thing

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Speaker 1: that is beautiful I feel is you know, Telliative Care.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anybody who like telliactive care.

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Speaker 2: That's the version where you just kind of like die

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, exactly, No no, because that that thing

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Speaker 1: and is hard. You know, I'm doing it at home

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Speaker 1: So it's not a beautiful experience from what I see

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Speaker 1: with the Maiden that it's more of like a celebration

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Speaker 1: people still, and yeah, it's it's a beautiful experience. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't when I was set sick before when I started

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Speaker 1: doing the missile care. But and the first time it

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I was there. The guy was around eighty eighty years

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Speaker 1: there and yeah, like a mementose and a lot of

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Speaker 1: narrotse thing and it was my first time and I

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing here? Was weird? Yeah, M.

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Speaker 2: Is this a This sounds very Canadian. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I know in someplace in Europe, like

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Speaker 1: have to have some criteria, but we're like, we have

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Speaker 1: some We have a democratic problem which people are an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hmm yeah. Now if you were diagnosed with cancer,

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Speaker 1: You know, I would do it like that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's a lot of pain and everything?

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Speaker 2: Where do you think we go after we die? Do

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Speaker 2: you believe in some form of afterlife?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I would like to, but I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. Like there's a thing like, uh, when

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Speaker 1: the expression, but it's like when you're on a plane,

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Speaker 2: Well? We have data, sorry, we have we kind of know.

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Speaker 2: We have experience not existing. For most of the time

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Speaker 2: time that ever was when we were not right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, makes sense, makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Tell me more. What's the most beautiful thing that you

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Speaker 2: have seen in uh? In helping people with this? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The beautiful the most beautiful scene I'd say that I had.

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Speaker 1: It was like the guy was from Europe and then

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Speaker 1: and he was like downstairs, but he was looking upstairs

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Speaker 1: and it was like, I don't know, there was stairs

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Speaker 1: it was like, I feel like, I mean, what a

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Speaker 1: beautiful painting? He said, yeah, what a beautiful painting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he felt like and you know, it was like Europeans.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, like the the way he was

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Speaker 1: talking was like very philosophical, but I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: the maybe it was the accent. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't like my my weird accent.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait you did you didn't like his accent?

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Speaker 1: I think I can do another seven years. I think

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Speaker 2: Manny, Manny, I'm Manny. I'm gonna ask the the twitch

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we usually like do a little caucus caucus

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Speaker 1: You cannot be. It's not somebody else that can take

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Speaker 2: Sure because that try are you are you? Are you

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Speaker 2: Every day you put I think whoever in the chat

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, every day. Maybe not one third, but every

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Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I never went to Starbucks, but I heard

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Speaker 2: my pocket. I have to say. I fucking hate Starbucks.

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00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: I hate how I hate their price to food size ratio.

437
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

438
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: You know they they sell fucking cake pops, cake, They

439
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: sell a bite of cake. Did they have this in Canada?

440
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: They sell a bite a cake. It's called the cake

441
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: pop and they sell it for four dollars. It's one

442
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: bite a cake a slice for four dollars at some places.

443
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have tim Morton's. But since Dunkin Donut by

444
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: bout it, it's not the thing.

445
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: Wait, holy shit, Duncan Donuts bought Tim Hortons.

446
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's been like a couple of

447
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, four, four or five years ago.

448
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: Okay. I also I have to say to you, of

449
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: all those different chains like Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, Tim Hortons,

450
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: tim Hortons is my favorite. Easy. That's better than the

451
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: Dutch Bros. Or any of that shit. Tim Morton's is

452
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: the best because they have all this. They have like

453
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: savory stuff, sweet, they have like real if you want

454
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: to go, If you want to get like a real

455
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: fucking sandwich, at Starbucks, you're screwed. But at tim Horton's,

456
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: they got you can get a bunch of you know,

457
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: you can get your gross sugary eight hundred calorie drink

458
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: and uh, you know some a grilled chicken rap or whatever.

459
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: The fuck?

460
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you do?

461
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 5: So?

462
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: Basically, Basically, what I'm saying is you will be killing

463
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: me very soon.

464
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: All right, I like that, but you will do it

465
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: the maiden if you could.

466
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when I'm dying of acute diabetes or whatever,

467
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: I want I want you to I want you to

468
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: kill me.

469
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: All right, all right? Would you do it in suit?

470
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: No? I would not know when I when I die,

471
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: burn all my gecko suits.

472
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: All right, goodness, I remember that.

473
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

474
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

475
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: Manny? Uh?

476
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: No? Man thanks and thanks for your patience with my

477
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: with my accent, and hope you have a good time.

478
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Man Hey, have a good night, Manny, all right, see

479
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: you bye?

480
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: What else I mean? Yeah, Tim Hortons is good. I

481
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: don't have anything. I don't have any other elaborations on that.

482
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: Tim Hortons is good. Uh, Manny is good. I mean,

483
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: if you're gonna die, that's the guy you want. That's

484
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: the guy you want to kill. You there some of

485
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: all people who have ever been murdered at the hands

486
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: of another person, and like all those people that have

487
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: murdered them. I think if I was going to pick

488
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: a guy on this earth, who, if I was gonna

489
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: pick out of all the people on the earth who

490
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: kill like out of that sample size, I was gonna

491
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: pick one of them to kill me, Manny would be

492
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: at the top of my list. You know, I would

493
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: rather be killed by him than like a Dahmer type

494
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: of character. Hello, Yo, gek, what's up?

495
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: I was literally just talking about you with my brother and.

496
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: What were you saying to me? What were you saying?

497
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Was it?

498
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: What were you saying about me?

499
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: I had you up on Twitch and I was like, Yo,

500
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: you ever hear about therapy? Get go? And He's like,

501
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: what therapy?

502
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Gecko?

503
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: What's that? And I'm like, Yo. People call into this

504
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: with the wildest stuff to say, like longtime fan, first

505
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: time caller. Oh, thanks hype that I got a hype

506
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: that I got on with you. Man.

507
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Thanks man. I'm I'm I'm excited to uh to talk

508
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: to you. Hold on, I'm trying to put I ah crap,

509
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: hold on my my gecko gloves, Yeah, are kind of

510
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: ripping apart. You want to know something funny actually is.

511
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 4: I I was on Amazon buying another one of these

512
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: costumes and I looked at the I looked at the

513
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: fine print, and I saw something.

514
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: That said only uh oh oh it said one time

515
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: use only. So apparently, no, dude. So apparently like the

516
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: costume was only made to be worn one time and

517
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: then thrown away. So that's why these costumes like it,

518
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I I've worn one of these, like, you know, fifty

519
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: times and it gets all fucked up and you know,

520
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: ripped and stuff. Give me one second.

521
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. This is insane. I'm literally talking

522
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: to him. You watching it right now?

523
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it gets uh fucked up and ripped and

524
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Blew my mind. I've been I've been

525
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: doing this for four years, and I had no idea

526
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: that these were one size. I know that there there

527
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: one size fits all.

528
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: You know.

529
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I've had uh people wear these, you know, guests and

530
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: stuff that are like six five and yeah, you know,

531
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm uh, I'm you know, five to one. And

532
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: if it's me, so well, anyway, who gives a shit

533
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: about my life? What's going on with you?

534
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: I mean, four hundred and seventy eight people give a

535
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: shit about your life? GEK, what you mean?

536
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just being lame. What's up with you? Man?

537
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean I'm chilling. I texted you two different things,

538
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: and I guess it'll be up to you which one

539
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: you want to talk about, whichever one you find more interested.

540
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: All right, you wanted to do text to me and

541
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: you said, I want to talk about how being a

542
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: black nerd is now wholly accepted.

543
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we can do that one or if you want

544
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: to do the other one.

545
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: I texted you, all right, it sounds like you. It

546
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: sounds like you have something you wanted to talk about.

547
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: So you go ahead and you tell.

548
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: Me okay, so the yeah let me, well, yeah, let's

549
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: just do it. Fuck it forget. So when I was young,

550
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: I've always had an interest in martial arts, and I've

551
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: always done martial arts as a kid, right, grew up

552
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: doing it. Dad put me in it, freaking did it

553
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: through school, joined the military, joined the Marines, got out,

554
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: and really started investing myself in martial arts. Right, I

555
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: started trying to do it professionally. I was training at

556
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: a gym, at a pretty high end gym too. There

557
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: were a lot of high level fighters that were there.

558
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how familiar you are with MMA, but

559
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: like Frankie Edgar was there, Edson Barboza was.

560
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: There as familiar with MMA as I look.

561
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough man. So So I was dating

562
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: this girl and she took an interest in martial arts

563
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: as well, right, but she went to a different school

564
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: than our own. Personal thing. I don't like having people

565
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: in my space, I'm doing stuff like that, right, So

566
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: she went to a different school, and long story short,

567
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: she ended up cheating on me with one of the

568
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: dudes there. Right, sucks huge balls, I know, through me

569
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: kind of in for a loop, you know what I mean,

570
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know, kind of mess me up

571
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: a little bit. But doing martial arts.

572
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 5: Really helped me do that.

573
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: Right.

574
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: So there are local tournaments right for different styles like

575
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu and boxing and boy Thai and things like that.

576
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: So instead of like acting instead of acting out, I

577
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: ended up signing up at every tournament that him and

578
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: his school went to with me and my teammates and

579
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: made sure that they never want to medal for the

580
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: next like two years. And then him specifically me and

581
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: him fought in MMA and in boxing. So I kind

582
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: of got my little like karate kid moment to kind

583
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: of get my revenge and like, you know, like my

584
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: little Rocky Balboa karate kid moment, and like, I don't know,

585
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: I always thought it was a funny way to kind

586
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: of like how it all played out was absolutely hilarious

587
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: and like a storybook almost, right, I think storybook was.

588
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: It you were trying to live out like like an

589
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: eighties movie where the guy steals your girl and so

590
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: you challenge him to.

591
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: A duel, except I didn't challenge him. We would just

592
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: be there right, like the tournament you.

593
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: Have to sign up. The way the way you phrased

594
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: it was that you went out of your way to

595
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: make sure. Okay, that's yeah, that's like subjecting someone to

596
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: a duel more than oh yeah, yep.

597
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: It was more like, hey, I'm in your hood, you

598
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: better be here, right, Like.

599
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Okay, are you the same are I have a few questions?

600
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: Are you the same weight class as this guy?

601
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: Yes, within we're within like ten fifteen pounds of each other.

602
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: So anywhere that he could go, I could go.

603
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: Then when when you went to fight him, did he

604
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: know that you were? You were? You had? He this

605
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: his your girlfriend had cheated on you with him.

606
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: She He didn't know at first until like the fourth

607
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: or fifth time that I like specifically ended up matching

608
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: up with him. Oh so like so the first two times,

609
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: the first two tournaments that I followed him to, we

610
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: ended up facing off early and I beat him whole hot.

611
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: I beat him soundly right, submitted him in the first one,

612
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: and then the second one, I beat him on points, right,

613
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 3: And so the second time when I beat him on points,

614
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: I like completely held him down, dominated the whole round, giggity,

615
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: but I like stepped over him kind of disrespectfully and

616
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: looked back at him when I was walking away. So

617
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: like his coaches understood, like, okay, there's something going on here.

618
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: And then when it happened again two more times, right,

619
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: they were like, okay, what is going on? And so

620
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: my coaches start asking me like, hey, are you okay?

621
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: Do you have like an issue with this guy? And

622
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: I was like, I fucking do. So the next time

623
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: we can get into a boxing match, let me know,

624
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: so I can suck him up.

625
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: Are you were you about? Are you about to go?

626
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: Are you about to go tyson on him and bite

627
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: his fucking ear off.

628
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to bite his ear off, but I

629
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: did want to make sure that I wanted him to know, like,

630
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in pain, right, So, like and to

631
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: a little bit of a caveat, I'm not like this normally, right, marshal.

632
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: Let's I'm very disciplined. I'm very like, you know, I

633
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: don't really do that. I don't go out of my

634
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: way to fight somebody. This just kind of happened, like.

635
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: You wait, hold on, you just told me a story

636
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: about you, like veheomly going out of your way to

637
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: fight somebody. What do you mean you don't go You

638
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: literally went out of your way to fight this guy?

639
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's fine. I'm not like,

640
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: it's not like like whatever. I'm not judging about it,

641
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: but that that's not a lie that you don't get it.

642
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, I guess without provocation, right, without provocation,

643
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: I won't just go and be like, oh, I'm gonna

644
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: fight you. You know, I'm usually a pretty chill guy.

645
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: But in the UH, in the boxing match, I got

646
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: to train with a lot of cool people. I got

647
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: to train with, uh this man named Mark Henry, who

648
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: was one of the like a very high level Olympic training.

649
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: He trained like the Olympic boxing team at one point.

650
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: So being able to train with him, and I was

651
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: learning so much and fighting him in boxing. I hit

652
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 3: him in his rib cage and I felt his rib

653
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: move and then when he crumpled to the ground, it

654
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: was shaky, right like I felt my heart skip of

655
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: I felt my heart skip a beat, you know what

656
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: I mean? Because I was like, damn, did he just die?

657
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: But like he was like just wheezing kind of hard,

658
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: and then I walked away. I got like I got

659
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: separated from him, right, and then he didn't get back

660
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: up after that, so well, Jesus. After after I heard

661
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: he wanted to do an MMA fight. And at that

662
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: time I was one sixty one and I was fighting

663
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: at one fifty five and he was like one seventy.

664
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: So I just ate. I just ate like crazy. I'm

665
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: talking two breakfast is a day. I had a huge lunch,

666
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: a huge dinner, just so I could wake up and

667
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: be like one seventy.

668
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: Right, you know, you know what I've been I actually,

669
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: well I haven't been watching it lately. My friends showed

670
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: it to me and so I spent one evening watching it.

671
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: But do you know, do you know what st I

672
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: think it's called Street Beefs is your streets?

673
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be honest, get I'm not a huge fan

674
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: of street beefts.

675
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 2: Okay, well before we before we talk about it, Stree

676
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: is like, okay, I watched it once. Street Beefs is like, uh,

677
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: this back I guess it's a backyard. Mm A, yeah,

678
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: there's no sanctions. It's but it's kind of like there's

679
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: a ring and you know, there's uh, I guess, respect

680
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: between the It's not like a street fight where it's

681
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: like two dudes who like got pissed off at each

682
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: other and started fighting it. But it is it's like

683
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: an organized fighting thing. And and yeah, well so a

684
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: why don't you why don't you like street beefs?

685
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: Uh? The lack it's not even so much a lack

686
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: of skill or anything like that. It just seems a

687
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: little what's the word, like low brow, I guess, And

688
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean for a certain crowd, like, yeah, you love it, right,

689
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: you want to just watch people knock each other out

690
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: all the time, which cool, you know, But it's like

691
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: it's like watching bum fights. I remember like bum fights

692
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: from back in the day.

693
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, but but isn't okay. I don't understand though, is

694
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: well bum fights is fuck it's different because the those

695
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: are people fighting, like those would be like have to

696
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: fight for a money. But this is like a street

697
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: beefs seems to me like two people who both like

698
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: have invested themselves in the sport of boxing or MMA

699
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck it is and want to fight

700
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: each other how But how is bottle? I don't know.

701
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not defending anything. I'm just this is

702
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: just my way. But so, but like, I guess, is

703
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: that not when you're watching that ship and you're watching

704
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: MMA where it's also like two guys brutally beating the

705
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: fuck out of each other and bleeding, is it? How

706
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: can one be high brow one below brow when at

707
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: the end of the day it's both two guys who

708
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: have decided to fight each other beating the shit out

709
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: of each other.

710
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: Well you could if you look at like the high

711
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: level MMA guys, right, you can see some sort of

712
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: artistry there, and like, obviously you got your rawlers, you

713
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: got your like in guys who swings for the fences, right,

714
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: everyone loves that. But you also have mixed in like

715
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: real artists, you know what I mean. You have people

716
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: who are throwing like crazy head kicks or crazy combos

717
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: and you woke them up, and you're like, I can't

718
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: believe that.

719
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: I've seen some I don't know, bro, I've seen some

720
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: art on street beefs. I've seen a dude like do

721
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: a roundhouse kick to the face, and I'm like, that

722
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: guy practiced that this is like a skill that he's developed.

723
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: They're not just you know, weighing it.

724
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: And it's just like the matchmaking also behind it is

725
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: kind of bad because you'll see a lot of one

726
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 3: sided like fights and people getting knocked out. Really bad.

727
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: No, but the one, but the one, okay, I I okay,

728
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: there's one fight that I watched. Oh god, yeah there's

729
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: one I remember. I forget the name of the fighter.

730
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: It was like little something uh or baby something shit,

731
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name, but I remember there's a

732
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: fight between this guy and like some other guy, and

733
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: the other guy had maybe an entire foot of height,

734
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe even like a foot and a half a fight

735
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: at Oh yeah, no, it was literally like a little

736
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: mac fighting fucking king hippo or whatever. And the guy,

737
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: the guy who was the tinier guy fucking won. Dude.

738
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: He got he like and he was he did. It

739
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: was like watching like you know, Shadow of Colossus, where

740
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: like the little tiny guy with the sword takes down

741
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: a giant fucking dude. It was like watching a boss fight,

742
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And he got him onto

743
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: the ground and he started beating him up and he

744
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: won the fight. So I was like, oh, Okay, I

745
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: guess there's there's gotta be something to that. There's gotta

746
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: be uh as this guy learned how to do this,

747
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: of course. Well here's another thing though, Here's another thing

748
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I like is I watched one of it was just

749
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: these two guys. They're pretty equal and uh they were

750
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: they were. It was a pretty brutal fight and they're

751
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: both bleeding at the end of it. But at the

752
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: very end they like they were like they were like

753
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: uh uh. There was a lot of camaraderie, Like they

754
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: hugged each other, they shook hands, there was very it

755
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: was a very uh, brotherly kind of a thing. You

756
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: could tell these two guys, even though you just watch

757
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: them viciously hurt each other, that they like loved each

758
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: norm it was weird. It was interesting.

759
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: Most combat sports, that's honestly the norm. You know, you

760
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: get all that energy out and then you're dapping each

761
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: other up at the end and shit's cool. Like it's

762
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: a sport at the end of the day, right, So

763
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: it's just competition, so both people know, both parties know

764
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: what they're doing coming in, so there's no real hard

765
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: feelings behind it, you know.

766
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I feel like okay to me.

767
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: But the biggest fights that I see advertised, like what

768
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: like yeah, when uh on a Logan Paul fights Mike

769
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: when Logan usually and usually any time I see a

770
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: fight advertising, it's like logan Paul versus someone, and usually

771
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: Logan Paul and whoever he's fighting hate each other, right,

772
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: like him and Mike Tyson or whatever they're they're talking

773
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: about a ship back and yeah, right, So I feel

774
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: like that, but like the biggest like like no, I

775
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: feel like, no, that's that's just that that just doesn't

776
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: generate publicity. These two guys are really good friends and

777
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna see which one's a better fighter. That doesn't

778
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: generate as much hype. I don't think as these as

779
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: as this guy's girlfriend cheated on him with this other

780
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: guy and now they're gonna fight.

781
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: Very true. I get what you're saying, and like, as

782
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: a fan, I like both sides. Like I like when

783
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: fighters can be respectful and I like when fighters talk

784
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: a little shit, you know what I mean? I like

785
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: I like both. I'm on both sides of the coin,

786
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

787
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: Are you have you ever gotten into a street brawl?

788
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: Have you ever? No?

789
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: Not never in my life, I've never fought in the

790
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: streets like that.

791
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good. Yeah, those those videos are sad.

792
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: They're like street yeah yeah, street beafs is like okay,

793
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: these people like trained for this, they agreed to do

794
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: it whatever, like just regular ass street fights that they

795
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: they're sad because they're they're there's definitely like exactly you know,

796
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: legit like anger exactly there.

797
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. But to circle back real quick, like after the

798
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: like two jiu jitsu matches, he understood what was happening,

799
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: like he knew like he because she told him, because

800
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: after I broke up with her, like she told him,

801
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: And after the second like jiu jitsu match, he knew

802
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: what was happening. So him taking the boxing match and

803
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: him taking the MMA fight, like he you have to

804
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: accept that fight, Like it's not like I just show

805
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: up and it's like, hey, peekaboo, I'm here, Like you

806
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: know it's me. You have to train for me and

807
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: we're meeting together. We both know this, right, So.

808
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: It was.

809
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: Very cathartic for me, right, And it was like one

810
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: of the only times that I've ever had to that

811
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: I've ever experienced anything like that. You know what I mean, Well.

812
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: How many times did you fight this dude?

813
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Five total, across three different disciplines?

814
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: Did you and you beat them every time?

815
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Every single time?

816
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: Gek, that's crazy.

817
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Wow, I was. I was in a different space, but

818
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, party like things back on it because

819
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, go ahead, kind of petty, you know, now

820
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: you go ahead. You look it's like damn. Yeah, I'm

821
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: like damn, it's kind of kind of petty, you know.

822
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: But like, you know, I don't know what it was.

823
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I want to get

824
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: my feet wet in this, and this is the way

825
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: that I could do it, and I don't know, I

826
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: shouldn't have part of me things like, yeah, you shouldn't

827
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: have done that. You should have been a little more mature,

828
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: you know, better about yourself. But at the same time,

829
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: it's competition, fuck them trying to get my shit doing.

830
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: But also yeah, like I should probably not be not

831
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: be petty like that.

832
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: Right, How many h How long ago was this? That's

833
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: what I was gonna ask.

834
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: Oh, this was definitely years ago, less than a decade,

835
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: but more than about five years ago. I'm thirty five now,

836
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, I'm thirty five. Now I'm a little

837
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: too old to be doing all that. So like it

838
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: was yeah, yeah, years years ago.

839
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a new girlfriends?

840
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have a lovely girlfriend now. She's amazing, beautiful, funny, cute,

841
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: but chaotic energy. You know what I'm saying.

842
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Did you meet her a hinge?

843
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: Actually? Interestingly enough, Yeah, the hinge thing was, all right, what.

844
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Do you have a picture of yourself like like shirtless

845
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: wearing boxing gloves on your hinge?

846
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: No? No, no, what really you don't, buddy, No, no, no, no,

847
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: no no, because like it's it's kind of I don't know,

848
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: I've never seen anyone have that type of picture up there,

849
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: And I personally like I don't want to be clown

850
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: like that, you know, like not that I don't have

851
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: a nice body or anything, but I'm not too I'm

852
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 3: a little self conscious about just showing it off like that. Sure,

853
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: so I kinda like I don't do don't do that.

854
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: I had like military pictures and shit like that, but

855
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: I never put like a shirtless picture or anything like

856
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: I never did that.

857
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Wall see. Okay, so you're more embarrassed of the shirtless

858
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: boxing picture than of the military picture.

859
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: Now, the military picture was me, like you, I was

860
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: holding like a fledgehammer, right, I think I like broke

861
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: open a lock, and my buddy like took a picture.

862
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: There wasn't anything like crazy about the picture. It's just

863
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: me holding a sledgehammer.

864
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: You know that's cool. Well, you sound like a happy person.

865
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: Honestly, Gek, I really am part of it.

866
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, is talking to you like that's that's a total

867
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it just in your real life, in

868
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: your you talking to me is twenty minutes of a

869
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: of a thirty five year long life span in which

870
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: you seem as though you've been relatively happy.

871
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I've been Uh yeah, I've been happy. You know,

872
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: I've lived a pretty interesting ish life, so I could

873
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: say I'm pretty happy dude.

874
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Now, you know, well, thanks for sharing your story with us, sir.

875
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe one day, maybe one day we can fight.

876
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: I like you, man, I don't want to fight you.

877
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: I'll help you, I'll teach you how to fight. You know,

878
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: but you're cool, dude. I want to. I want to.

879
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: I wanna say I'm sorry you're saying you say you

880
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: don't think I could You don't think I could like

881
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: hold my own.

882
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: No, I think you could. But like you're a nice guy,

883
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: and I don't like to fight guys. I like, you

884
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you're a cool dude, and

885
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like you know, I wouldn't have that energy

886
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: towards you.

887
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: I'll say this real quick before we go. I actually

888
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: did box once.

889
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: How did you like it?

890
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: So in the summer of twenty twenty one, I went

891
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: all around, uh the country filming footage for this like

892
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: documentary series that never what we never ended up actually making.

893
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: But uh, one of the things was that I boxed

894
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: somebody in Denver in the Gecko suit.

895
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: How did it feel?

896
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: So? I was so initially with boxing, I was worried

897
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: about getting hit in the face. That's what I was

898
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: most scared of. It was like, Oh, I don't want

899
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: to box this guy to get to get punched in

900
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: the fucking face. But what really? But and I realized, Oh,

901
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: the actual part of it that sucks is the stamina, yes,

902
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: which is and that's and I and I was I

903
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: was actually blown away because like, you know, i'd be

904
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: fighting a guy like we we're like, I would be

905
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: boxing for like, what less than a minute and we're

906
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: not It's not even like I'm not like doing crazy

907
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: lizard moves. I'm not running in circles around him. I'm

908
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: literally just standing in place or maybe like whatever. And

909
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: and afterwards I'm like, out of breath? Is this I

910
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: just like sprinted around the track or something. I thought

911
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: it was crazy? Like, how am I so out of

912
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: breath after not even moving?

913
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: Crazy?

914
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Do I have any lizard moves? You gotta

915
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: fucking see me in the octagon to find that ship out, I'll.

916
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: Fly out to Philly Post.

917
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm totally bluffing. I do not I don't

918
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: want to go.

919
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: No, I'm a nice Scott brother.

920
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Well, what's your name again?

921
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: You can call me Ace?

922
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: Ace. Is there anything else you want to say to

923
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?

924
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: People of the computer, I hope you're having a great day.

925
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: Hug your mom, drink water, try to do a kickflip

926
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: bang bang bang bang. Thanks Tommy.

927
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: And that was the most Joe Rogan experience the conversation

928
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: I've had on this podcast. Hello, what is your name, sir?

929
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 5: My name is Brett.

930
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: What's going on? Brett?

931
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm kind of in an interesting situation here. So

932
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: just for some context, I was raised very religious Mormon

933
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: on my dad's side, and I am not myself. In fact,

934
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 5: like growing up through life, I kind of learned that

935
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 5: not only am I not religious, I don't subscribe to

936
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 5: their beliefs. I've also learned that I'm polyamorous. And it's

937
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 5: you know, I'm thirty two years old now, and some

938
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 5: people know, my close friends know, my mom's side knows,

939
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 5: some siblings know, but I feel like largely the entirety

940
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: of my dad's side doesn't know. And I'm kind of

941
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 5: in this weird spot where like I want to tell them,

942
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: because you know, part of living this lifestyle is, you know,

943
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 5: being your true authentic self, and but at the same time,

944
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: they just wouldn't get it. And I keep getting, you know,

945
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: invited to a religious family gatherings and birthdays and whatnot,

946
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 5: and it's just so draining to want to decline all

947
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 5: of them because I just had nothing in common with

948
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 5: any of them. So I don't know what.

949
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: So let's start here. Tell me how the polyamorous lifestyle is.

950
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: Go under you stoked about it?

951
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm him with my fiance right now, we've been

952
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: poll together. We actually discovered it together about three years

953
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: ago and going strong.

954
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Very cool, And so I guess, like, are you afraid

955
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: that something particularly bad will happen if you tell your

956
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: dad that you are polyamorous?

957
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

958
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

959
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: I don't actually know. So, like, you know, the Mormon side,

960
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 5: there's a lot of them, right, My dad is one

961
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: of nine kids, and each of those kids has kids,

962
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: and some of those kids have kids, and it all

963
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 5: kind of stems from the empire that is my Mormon

964
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 5: grandparents who have a very who have a very hard

965
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 5: time understanding that anybody would not want to be a Mormon.

966
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like, if one of them finds out,

967
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: all of them find out, and then I just, you know,

968
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: I don't really at the end of the day, I

969
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: don't really care what each of these people individually think

970
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: of me. Yeah, but it's kind of it's kind of like,

971
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: am I ready for my relationship with twenty five people

972
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 5: to change all at once?

973
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: Let me this This might be kind of a redundant question,

974
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: but I think it's important. I mean, put, simply, do

975
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: you want to tell them?

976
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 5: I I I would like to live in a world

977
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 5: where I'm not harboringing secrets, right.

978
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's free.

979
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: I don't of course, I haven't told them yet because

980
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like they deserve or need to know.

981
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, it's I'll get

982
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 5: invited to a family bird birthday and I just I

983
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: don't want to go. I end up finding some excuse,

984
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 5: and then it's the next time. Then I keep getting told.

985
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: By that well look look, look man, so look I

986
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: mean this, it's not like you're sixteen and you got

987
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: to harbor a secret or else you'll get kicked out

988
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: of the house. You know. Yeah, yeah, You're thirty two

989
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: years old, and at this point I kind of you know, I,

990
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: I guess you have to ask yourself and you got

991
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: to think about, deep down if you would feel better

992
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: having told your dad that you are polyamorous. You know,

993
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: by the way, I am I mistaken. I thought that

994
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: Mormons were polyamorous. I thought that was like the whole thing.

995
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: I was like, because I remember, because like I've done

996
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: shows in Utah and talk to people and they're like, yeah,

997
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: my dad has like six wives, and I'm like, oh,

998
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: because isn't that a Mormon thing? That wouldn't. I would

999
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: think your parents will be proud of you for that.

1000
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's kind of you know, in the

1001
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 5: deep rooted Mormon history it was a polygamy, not polyamory.

1002
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 5: But but also, you know, when you start to look

1003
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 5: at a lot of the other things in the deep

1004
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: Mormon history, a lot of it doesn't make sense.

1005
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's an angle that you could do.

1006
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: You could come out as polyamorous, but like present it

1007
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: as if you're actually super fucking Mormon, you're even more

1008
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Mormon than them that you have multiple wives.

1009
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 5: In fact, you guys can learn from me and my moreabilities.

1010
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, look at.

1011
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: It exactly, So you could look at it like that,

1012
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: But look ultimately, I mean really, you know again, you know,

1013
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: I really can't tell you what to do in this situation,

1014
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: but you kind of you kind of have the questions

1015
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: that you got to think about, right, Yeah, which are

1016
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm thirty two, I have no way past having room

1017
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: in my life for bullshit or caring about what other

1018
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: people think about me.

1019
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I'm there too. It's just you know,

1020
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 5: it's to me, it's a quantity thing. It's a numbers thing.

1021
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 5: If it was just my dad, you know who cares.

1022
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: But it's that whole clan over there, you know. I

1023
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 5: don't know.

1024
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 2: I bet out of twenty out of twenty six people,

1025
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: a few of them are also harboring some secret wives.

1026
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure, Oh, I bet you. You know there's some

1027
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: stuff that I have you know, inklings about, but you know,

1028
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: I can't be sure. But you know, it's largely a

1029
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: religion based on, hey, do this thing that you've been

1030
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: taught since you were a child, don't ask questions, and

1031
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 5: when it comes time, make as many children as you

1032
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 5: can to pass that off on to them. And a

1033
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 5: lot of them just have have eaten that cake. And

1034
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: it's just you know, I try to distance myself from

1035
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: it in every way that I can.

1036
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: So well, look, brother, you are technically fulfilling the Mormon

1037
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: duty to have a big family. So I hope you

1038
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: take some bass in that.

1039
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: Here you go.

1040
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1041
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1042
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: I would just say you you don't have to be

1043
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: what people tell you you are. You know you might be.

1044
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: You might grow up and be told you're one thing

1045
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 5: and be told you have to believe this and be

1046
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 5: told you have to do this, but I am here

1047
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 5: to tell you that you don't.

1048
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: Hey, you have a good night, man, Thanks you too.

1049
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: The Mormon thing is funny because my like first exposure

1050
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: to Mormons was South Park and like all the all

1051
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: the you know they have, they got the Book of

1052
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: Mormon and they got all the Mormons like in the show,

1053
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: and South Park like really portrays Mormons as like very nice,

1054
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: wholesome people. So that was what I got my impression

1055
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: of them for most of my life, and then I'm

1056
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: sure this was shattered before that. But I remember I

1057
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: did this show in Utah. It's Salt Lake City is

1058
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: like the Mormon headquarters, and everyone I interviewed at the

1059
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: show just had a story of some horrible, horrible thing

1060
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: from their parents' childhood like this. One guy talked about

1061
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: how his dad made him slaughter a hundred rabbits to

1062
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: prepare for the apocalypse and crazy shit like that. So

1063
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: I guess that illusion has been kind of shattered in

1064
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: a way. But I don't know, maybe this I don't know.

1065
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: One time I was at a Chinese buffet and I

1066
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: saw a guy wearing the Mormon missionary outfit and I

1067
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: looked at him. I was like, hey man, you Mormon.

1068
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: He was like yeah, and he kind of smiled at me.

1069
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: And that was the whole interaction. But he seemed like

1070
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: a nice guy. That's it, that's all I got.

1071
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: Everythin goes on the line, taking your phone calls every nine,

1072
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: everything goes to.

1073
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: His eye was teachings.

1074
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: He's looking like, but he's not really an expert.