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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one, and

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Speaker 1: today we are back with another RUT Radio episode in

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Speaker 1: which we are catching up with a handful of hunters

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Speaker 1: from all across the country this week to hear the

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Speaker 1: latest on dear behavior, activity conditions, and the tactics that

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Speaker 1: are working right now in the late season. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Wired to Hunt podcast,

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Speaker 1: and today, as we do each week during the hunting season,

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Speaker 1: we are here with a RUT Radio episode in which

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Speaker 1: we are checking in with a bunch of different hunters

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Speaker 1: across the country to get the latest on deer activity,

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Speaker 1: dear behavior, uh, you know, how different sets of conditions

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Speaker 1: are impacting deer hunting, and then find out what kind

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Speaker 1: of tactics, what kind of strategies these guys and girls

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Speaker 1: are trying out in the field right now. And uh

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Speaker 1: it's we're kind of edging into late December almost now, um,

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Speaker 1: getting into the real tail end of the late season,

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Speaker 1: I suppose. And um I'm sitting over here in Michigan

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Speaker 1: having just one heck of a hunting season. Here Batten

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Speaker 1: zero on everything I've tried to do. On the other

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Speaker 1: side of the line with me, as he always is

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Speaker 1: for ut Radio is Spencer new Hearth, who has batted

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Speaker 1: a thousand um. He doesn't seem to miss on any

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Speaker 1: hunt he goes on. And uh, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember this. You know we've talked recently about all

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Speaker 1: the different ungulates he's killed. He's killed every different hooved

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Speaker 1: for legged animal there is out there this season, but

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Speaker 1: earlier this spring, if I'm getting this right, he killed

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Speaker 1: a a state record turkey of some sort, and I'll

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Speaker 1: have Spencer laver in this a bit out in the spring.

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Speaker 1: And then this son of a gun thinks, hey have

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Speaker 1: already killed all these other animals as fault, why not

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Speaker 1: try to kill another turkey? And he goes and kills

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Speaker 1: the number three bird in the state. So Spencer, I

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Speaker 1: I I feel like I just need to like rub

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Speaker 1: because every week I feel like I give you the

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Speaker 1: same crap about this happening, whether being an elk or

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Speaker 1: a white tail or whatever, a mule deer. Um. So

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Speaker 1: now I don't know it's it's it's uh, it's absurd, Spencer,

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Speaker 1: It's just absurd, but it's amazing. What exactly did you

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Speaker 1: do here? We'll back up to the spring in South

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Speaker 1: Dakota were unique and then we have the three main

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Speaker 1: species of these. We have Rio's, Miriam's, and Easterns. And

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Speaker 1: so I think it was it was right around Easter.

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Speaker 1: It might have been Easter Day. Um in the spring,

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Speaker 1: I killed the state record real grand turkey with my boat.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a triple beard and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then just it was like four days ago I killed

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Speaker 1: an Eastern with my shotgun, which will be number three

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Speaker 1: a double beard. And uh, they're like once in a

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Speaker 1: lifetime turkeys, but especially for someone like myself. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: better deer hunter. I think that I am a turkey hunter,

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Speaker 1: and I think about white tails year round. I don't

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Speaker 1: little bit guilty that I probably don't appreciate these birds

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Speaker 1: someone feels who haunts white tails hard and then sees

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Speaker 1: the neighbor who goes out, you know, twice a year

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of what's happened here. So

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Speaker 1: these were just very lucky encounters for me to get

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Speaker 1: those two turkeys. And I don't want anyone to come

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Speaker 1: away thinking that like, I'm an exceptional turkey hunter. This

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Speaker 1: but it was just ship chance that they had five

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'm excited for you. Um, I think there's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of people that listen to this show

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Speaker 1: Here's the issue is that I've got all these like

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Speaker 1: sponsors of the Wired Hunt podcast, and I think coming

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Speaker 1: up in two thousand and eighteen, there will be no

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Speaker 1: sponsors related to Mark Kenyon. Everyone's gonna expense The new

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Speaker 1: Heart is gonna be decked out with brand new Camo,

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Speaker 1: new bows, new ouck. You're gonna have like a new

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Speaker 1: and uh, everyone's gonna catch on to the fact that

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Speaker 1: you put them down, Spencer, So get ready for a

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Speaker 1: flush of new emails. Well, they're gonna be disappointed because

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Speaker 1: I don't see another booner next year or anymore state

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Speaker 1: right will well Mark, you were just you know, Ohio hunting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am jealous. You still get to do some deer hunting.

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Speaker 1: So how was that for you? You know what? As

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Speaker 1: but you know, I actually did see a little bit

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Speaker 1: Two things actually. Number one, I saw quite a bit

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Speaker 1: one thing of interest. Now, I will say that that

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Speaker 1: And then after dark, I had another buck coming and

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Speaker 1: an interesting observation. What we'll hear a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Mike Fitzgerald with bow Hunting dot Com. And then we

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Speaker 1: go to New Hampshire and from the white Tail factor

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Speaker 1: talked to Mike con Suctor of Hartland bow Hunter in Missouri. Excellent. Well, Um,

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Speaker 1: not been in the cards for me this season. But

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Speaker 1: to thank our sponsors at sick ge Gear. And for

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Speaker 1: this week's SI story, we're joined by Brad Joy, who

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Speaker 1: tells us about a memorable white tail hunt that didn't

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Speaker 1: go as planned. Well, Ross and I have had a

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Speaker 1: extreme low from ross and eye that year. On Brett's hunt,

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Speaker 1: bow Hunting dot Com. Now, Mike in Minnesota, what would

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Speaker 1: but I'm not at all surprised to see you know,

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00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: a fresh scrape in the snow or rub um with

430
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, hemlock, uh shavings on the top of the snow.

431
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: I found that all the time at the summer going forward.

432
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: Then in this next week or so, what do you

433
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: think that buckettvity is going to be on a scale

434
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I think it's gonna probably remain

435
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: pretty consistent for the next week or so. Like I said,

436
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 1: that second right, activity will still be there. Um, it's

437
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: still gonna be of you know, the name of the

438
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: game will be finding food and bed and trying to

439
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: figure out how they're relating to each other and how

440
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: they're moving between the two and obviously whether it will help.

441
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: The more snow and the more cold, the more of

442
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: a pattern they're gonna be on, and I think the

443
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: more daylight active will be all right, Brett will great,

444
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: intel and good luck and whatever's left to your season.

445
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, great, thank you. Before we get

446
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: to our next color though, let's positive think our spots

447
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Speaker 1: at white tailed properties and this week with white Tailed Properties,

448
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449
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450
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451
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452
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Speaker 1: about like the properties agencies are over professionals were not moonlighters.

453
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454
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Speaker 1: We are familiar with the area rules regulations. UM. We

455
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Speaker 1: know the deer deer herds where all deer hunters. Um.

456
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Speaker 1: And just having someone that can walk the walk and

457
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458
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Speaker 1: there on the ground uh to to evaluate habitat or

459
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Speaker 1: evaluate uh propit land or whatever. Just having that expert

460
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Speaker 1: right there that's familiar with the area. Is so much

461
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462
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463
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464
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466
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Speaker 1: being taken care of and UH and in the end

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Speaker 1: gett a good deal. If you'd like to learn more

468
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Speaker 1: that's s K I N N E R alright and

471
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Speaker 1: joining us on the line next is Lindsay Thomas Jr.

472
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Speaker 1: Out of Georgia, the director of communications with q d

473
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Speaker 1: M A. Now, Lindsay and Georgia. What would you say

474
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: the buck activities been lately on a scale of one

475
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: to ten uh Spencer where I've been over the last

476
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, it's been fairly low. UM, like a two

477
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: or three. We're post rut at this point in most

478
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: of the areas of of the of Georgia that I

479
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: hunt in Southeast Georgia, Central Georgia and North Georgia. UM,

480
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's UM, it's been very low buck activity. Um, yeah,

481
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: it's been kind of tough. Actually, Well, lindsay, how about

482
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: the rest of the state or there's some areas that

483
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: should be expecting to see some rutting activities soon. Yeah,

484
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: in southwest Georgia, the southwestern corner of the state, it

485
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: kind of blends in with some of that late rut

486
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: activity you see in Alabama and into Mississippi. Most folks

487
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: know that, um patches of those states see a very

488
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: late rut often even into January and even February in

489
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: some areas. So Southwest Georgia uh fits into that that

490
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: puzzle and has kind of a December rut. So even

491
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: right now is we're speaking, they should be based on

492
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: all the data I've ever seen on that, you know,

493
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: the ruts should be happening in some of the southwestern

494
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: Georgia counties. I haven't hunted down there or talked to

495
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: anyone there this year, but um, they should be right

496
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: on uh schedule right about now, or if not, maybe

497
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: you know a little behind the peak of the rut there.

498
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: But for most of the state, we are well into

499
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: to post rut at this point. For the rest of

500
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: the state that's in that post rut. What are some

501
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: of the favorite food sources to focus on this time

502
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: of year? You know, uh, that would be any of

503
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: the cool season plots that that have been planted for deer,

504
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: particularly the brassicas like rape kale, turnips, radishes, um which

505
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: most folks that do food plots know that those leafy

506
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: green plots uh tend to become more attractive to deer

507
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: after they've been hit by a good hard frost, and

508
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: most of the state at this point has had that.

509
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: Even in South Georgia where my family's farm is, we

510
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: got some pretty good frosts a couple of weeks ago

511
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: in uh in late November. It's gotten a little warmer

512
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: here lately, but those those crops, if you have them,

513
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: are now coming into the you know, pretty well attractive phase.

514
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you planted win or wheat, or oats

515
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: or rye, it would be the same. If you have

516
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: standing soybeans you left, or standing corn, of course those

517
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be attractive to um. Another food source right

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: now that deer seemed to be turning back to in

519
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: many areas are any acorn in the red oak family,

520
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: which would be your southern red oaks, water oaks, laurel oaks, uh,

521
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: cherry bark oak things like that, UM, white oaks. Of course,

522
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: as we know acorns and the white oak, they tend

523
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: to be more attractive to deer and get gone faster.

524
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: They are gone now, UM, and or they are beneath

525
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: the leaf leader and have germinated, so they're not of

526
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: interest to dear anymore. But those red oak acorns are

527
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: still in the ground, still viable. UM. They have not sprouted,

528
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: They don't sprout to the spring, and they keep longer

529
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: because they have a higher tannic acid level. So now

530
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: deer are turning to those where they have them. So

531
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: if you've got water oaks or other red oak species

532
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: uh in your hunting area, check those areas out again

533
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: and see if you aren't seeing some patterns there with

534
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: all of these food source of spencer. Though, the key

535
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: now is going to be hunting pressure. If these areas

536
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about, if you've got brassicas or winter

537
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: wheat or an area with red okay corns or whatever

538
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: that might be, but you've been hunting it all the

539
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: past several weeks through the rut and everything, UM, I

540
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: really doubt them. See much activity in those areas you

541
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: you really need to find some food horses now that

542
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: have not been hunted or or at areas that have

543
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: not been hunted, because you know, late season like this

544
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: pressure becomes a big factor. Um, I'm I'm looking, you know,

545
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: basing that on several food plots that I've got uh

546
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: cameras and and been hunting. You know. My I've got

547
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: a multi mobile album on one food plot that I

548
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: hunted over the weekend. Uh and and some other friends hunted.

549
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: No daylight deer activity was seen in those plots that

550
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, But I'm getting trail camera pictures as

551
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: soon as we get in to camp of deer coming

552
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: in after dark and through the night. So, but those

553
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: plots were hunted, you know, through hunting seasons. So again

554
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: I think back over your historical pressure this season, try

555
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: to to you know, over these for the rest of

556
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: the season. Really the patterns should be any food sources

557
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: you can find that have not already been heavily hunted. Well, Indy,

558
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of theories and a lot of lower

559
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: out there from hunters on this secondary of rods. Now,

560
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: what is science and qtmy say about the secondaria rod. Yeah,

561
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a real thing. Generally, what it is spencer

562
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: is doe fons those that were born this year, that

563
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: were born early enough or had good enough resources where

564
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: they lived to reach a critical body weight uh during

565
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: fall and and even during December. And in the south

566
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: that's about seventy pounds on the hoof. In the north

567
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it's more in the range of about eighty pounds. Doe

568
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: fonds that again had the right conditions and we're able

569
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: to hit that body side before we really get into winter,

570
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: will come into estrus for the first time, and it

571
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: is often late. It doesn't usually happen with the peak

572
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: of the rut. It's usually in December, UH for areas

573
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: that normally have a November peak rut, and that can

574
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: often create a you know, little flurry of rut activity.

575
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Bucks can you know, even though their testosterone levels might

576
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: have been beginning to drop off, the present of those

577
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: estrus dough pons will spike their interest again physiologically, they

578
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: can kind of crank back up. So you might see chasing, uh.

579
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: You might hear grunning and vocalizations and does running from

580
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: bucks and and bucks even fighting over these do phons.

581
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: So generally, when hunters are seeing that. Uh, it's not

582
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: so much a true second rut as it is these

583
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: do phons coming into estrus. You can have adult does

584
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: that did not get bred on the first cycle coming

585
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: back in thirty days later. But generally in most areas,

586
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: bucket do ratios today are are in pretty good shape.

587
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: And most of the quote second rut that you're seeing

588
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: is those do phons, you know, particularly in areas where

589
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: you've got good habitat and good herd management. That's that's

590
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: what is causing that. All right, lindsay, well, good luck

591
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and what's left for your season, and thanks for joining me, Spencer,

592
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Good luck to you too, alright and

593
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Last is Mike han Sucker

594
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: from Hartland bow Hunter in Missouri. Now Mike in Missouri.

595
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: What would you say the bucket he has been lately

596
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, Oh man, it's

597
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: been pretty pretty poor. I would say, uh, maybe a three.

598
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: I price say, yeah, I mean the main thing this time, Yeah,

599
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: you know that we need for buck activities cold weather.

600
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: We got the food and they're you know, they're trying

601
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: to get built back up from the long rut um.

602
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: But if we don't get the cold one. At the book,

603
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: activity at least in daylight is pretty minimal, So I'm

604
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: looking forward to some cool weather on the way. Right now.

605
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: We just touched on food sources there. What are some

606
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: of your favorite food sources to haunt this time of

607
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: year in Missouri? Uh? Really, you know, my favorite food

608
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: towards this time of year is probably corn. Um. We

609
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: leave a lot of corn standing. And it's been five

610
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: or six years ago Missouri, Uh, changing the regulations to

611
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: where you could have can manipulate the crops so we

612
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: can plant corn and then brush hucking down. And that's

613
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: been a really effective statisy for us trying to sew

614
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: white season with a bow and arrow. Um, you know

615
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: we can. We can put a hay bail blind and

616
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: put in the corn. We can mow about you know,

617
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: fifty black fifty square and and uh, you know most

618
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: of you are gonna be within bow range. So it's

619
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: pretty effective way to give him a nice and close

620
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: way season. No, have you noticed the change in bedding

621
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: this time of year as supposed of what it was

622
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: back mid November during their run. Uh, God of depends

623
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: on the area. Um. The food sources that do have

624
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: quality bedding close by. Um, the here seem to be

625
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: betting there, you know, not moving to terribly far from

626
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: from from those food sources, but um, the food sources

627
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: where you know, there's not a great the best bedding

628
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: due to all the fours being off the trees, they're

629
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: still still sticking to you know, some of the tighter,

630
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: a little sick areas. But you know, they definitely this

631
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: time year, they definitely prefer to travel less. It seems

632
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: like well from your social media, looks like you've been

633
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: on some dope patrol lately and on those haunts. Have

634
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: you seen any kind of secondary rutting activity. Um, I've

635
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: seen a little bit, a little bit of a little

636
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: bit of bumping around chasing UM nothing the we need

637
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: to pick that it was a dough. There was in

638
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: heat for sure, maybe mainly just you know, younger blocks

639
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: messing around. But UM, I have on some sail cameras.

640
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: UM it's been I don't know, probably a week or

641
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: ten days ago. UM had a buck that that was

642
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: locked down with the dough that wouldn't leaving her. UM,

643
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Speaker 1: and she was it was actually a faun. So assuming

644
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Speaker 1: she was coming coming in the heat for the first

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Speaker 1: time this year. Uh, and uh he was on her

646
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Speaker 1: when wouldn't I wouldn't leaving her aside? So what weather

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Speaker 1: patterns in particular? Are you looking forward late season like

648
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: this just cold weather in general, or would you like

649
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Speaker 1: some snow as well or maybe some wind? Yeah, I

650
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Speaker 1: mean cold cold weather is is the number one thing

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Speaker 1: in my opinion. Um. But also it doesn't hurt to

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Speaker 1: have snow, especially we we have a lot of standing

653
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Speaker 1: beans as well, and and um, you know, anytime he

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Speaker 1: gets any time to get over the snow cover, it

655
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: covers up all the other available food sources that it

656
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: is laying on the ground. And so standing crops really

657
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: good hot that time of year. So um, you know it.

658
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: It just depends on what you have available with food sources.

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00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean cold and snow, and in high

660
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: pressure you get a combination of all those and and

661
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: it's magical. Uh be touched on the wind to the

662
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: wind is another big thing that that. Uh, it's just

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00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: it's been been brutal lately for us. We've had some

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00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, decent steady winds and then last night I

665
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: just die And then, um, I mean good deer are

666
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: so skinnis this time of year. You know, everything's loud

667
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: and cutchy, and there's no vegetation and they've been hunted

668
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: all year and so you know, really having a nice

669
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: steady wind it really will help, um cover up some

670
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: of that any noises and help us make the deer

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Speaker 1: feel more comfortable for whatever reason, you know, you think

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00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: they would be, Um, you know, you think they'd be

673
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: more calm when it's when the wind is calm and

674
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: they can hear really well. But when you know, a

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00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: nice steady ten mile r wind or whatever, that seems

676
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: to be the the time when there's you know, the

677
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: most the most calm, and they're in there in their elements. Well,

678
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: I know you still have a buck tag and your

679
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: wife and and Sean as well, and with us approaching

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00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: you know the last thirt is it the season? Will

681
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: you do anything really aggressive like hunting mornings at this point?

682
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: Will you stick strictly with the evenings? Yeah, we don't.

683
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't mess with the morning's really really much this

684
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: time of year. Um, I would if I had something

685
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: to leave me to believe that, you know, be able

686
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: to kill a buck in the morning. Um, it's just tough.

687
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 1: Like I said, with a short travel from food to bed. Um,

688
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: and a lot of times you know they're they're going

689
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: back to bed not as before before daylight. So um,

690
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: it just makes it difficult. So um, don't mess too

691
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: much with the mornings. But as far as getting aggressive,

692
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, um, you know, yeah, we we definitely you know,

693
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: when it gets down to the wire, we try to

694
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: try to make it count. But uh, you know, a

695
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: lot a lot of times we're relying heavily on trail cameras,

696
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: are just waiting for everything to be right because access

697
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: is super cup this time of year without bumping the year.

698
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: So um, you know, got hunt hunt smarter, not harder.

699
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: We're going forward. Then is next week or so? I'm like,

700
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity will be on

701
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in Missouri over the

702
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: next week. I would say it's gonna skyrocket. Um, we

703
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: have our first real solid told front coming through looks

704
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: like and uh, I have to say it's probably gonna

705
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: be probably an eight. I'd give it a nine or

706
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: ten if we had a bunch of snow coming. But um,

707
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, highs in the thirties, loads and the tunes

708
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: um all coinciding with Christmas so we're gonna be uh

709
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: having a dip out on some Christmas parties and stuff,

710
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: but no, uh, we'll uh, we'll make sure that we

711
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: do our best to get get get in the roads

712
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: to capitalize on the cold front. But hopefully it's not

713
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: gonna shoot back up. I mean we've had some you know,

714
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks and fifty sixty degree days

715
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: on on a regular basis. I mean it's just now

716
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: dropping into the upper forties right now, and the fun

717
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: has been down for about an hour, so it's uh,

718
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: it's been unfeasibly warm. Alright, Mike, Well, I like your

719
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: optimism and I hope that translate to some tags paunch

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: for for Harlem bow hunters. So thanks for joining me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Luck everybody, all right, before we move on,

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Speaker 1: want to wish everybody a merry Christmas in a happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. And this is the last wrote radio episode

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