1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Before we begin, a reminder to please rate and review 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: our show. It helps new listeners discover us and grow 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the program. With the World Cup rapidly approaching, we check 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: in on some of the U S M n T 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: players and how they've looked so far for various clubs 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: from the Americans who have made Leeds United a lot 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: of fun to watch. In the course of getting a 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of run to one big name American who's been 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: marginalized with Chelsea and to do it all, we bring 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: in one of our absolute favorites, Luis mcguel at you 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Garai from the k GLOSSO podcast and CBS Sports. I'm 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: your host, John Gonzalez from Sports Illustrated and I Heart Radio. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: This is Sports Illustrated Weekly. Luise, Welcome back to Sports 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Illustrated Weekly. It's always good to come back to my 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Amma mater, my man. How are you. I love to 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: see your smiling face. I love to talk soccer with you. 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: You're one of our favorite guests on this program. We 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: thought we would discuss with you how some Americans are 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: performing for their clubs ahead of the World Cup, and 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I think what better place to start than with Leeds United. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: We've all seen the memes major leads soccer Leeds United 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: States of America. Jesse March jumping up and down in 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: skin tight jeans, the American head coach on the sideline. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: But Brendan Aronson, the Medford MESSI they call him shots 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: to New Jersey and Tyler Adams. What have you seen 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: from those two guys that have the World Cup? Well, 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: Leeds United is it's just a great story all over right. 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: It started with the Marcello yes uh, the famous Argentinean 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: manager who comes to this working class town and kind 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: of revolutionized Leeds United, a team that used to be 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: a giant, was in the Championship for a long time, 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: and then it came back to the Premier League. Then 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: BLSA leaves and then that energy, that euphoria that the 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Leeds United fan base had for so long goes away 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and leads are very nervous about what's going to happen next, 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: and incomes the wonderful Jess E. Marsha. I know him personally, 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I've interviewed him, I've talked to him both professionally and 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: as a friend, and I can tell you that he 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: is everything that you see. He's just a great human being. 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: Who loves the sport, loves the unity of the sport, 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: loves to create a family within every club that he manages. 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: He is extremely experienced. You know, when he arrived to Saltzburg, 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the first thing he did was he wanted to learn 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: the language straight away. So like there's all these stories 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: about how great he is, and and it doesn't surprise 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: me that he's doing well with Leeds United because it's 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: a club that just wants heart. They just want passion, 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: They just want you know, They're kind of like your Eagles. 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: They just they're working class town that just want I 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: don't care if you lose, just lose like with everything 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: that you have inside of you. And that's Jesse Marsh. 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: And again it's no surprise to me that the Leeds 53 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: United States of America decides to recruit Tyler Adams, probably 54 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: the smartest U s m m T member, and he's 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: got support for about it. I'm trying to just wear 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the help of any flagship. And Brendan Aaronson I call 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: him three lungs because he just doesn't stop running. And 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: the whole team doesn't stop running. Yeah, they don't. And 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Brendan Aronson is is the pivotal example of that, Arenson 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: going Chilse, the pressure literally tying off. And I've interviewed 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: both of them as well, and it's no surprise to 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: me that it's all clicking in more ways than one. 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: And the number one thing is identity. You know who 64 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: they are and it's a great thing to see for 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: both Jesse marsha and and Aaronson and Tyler Adams. I 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: love when you talk about identity and what teams are 67 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and apologies because I know you talked about the reverse 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: with your beloved Aston Villa, but it's only is working 69 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: out with the A team Aaronson and Adams in leads. 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: But then you look at another American as we approach 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the World Cup, Kristen Pulissa not going great for him 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: in Chelsea. He's played just a hundred and one minutes 73 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: through the first five matches as we record this, he 74 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: hasn't started a game this season. There were rumors Elami 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: that they might loan him out. You know, man, you 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: was mentioned Newcastle clubs in Italy and Spain, everybody you know, 77 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: or maybe he'll go somewhere and get some minutes ahead 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: of the World Cup. He certainly could have used the 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: playing time elsewhere. Did you want to see him go 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: somewhere before the World Cup? Well, you know, if I 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: was a U S sevent t fan, And obviously I 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of love and support for this country 83 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: of yours. I live here and my wife's Americans. Also, 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I pay a lot of attention, so obviously I want 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: to see these talented players do well. Christian Polistic unfortunately, 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: is not going through a good time from a football perspective. 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: And you know, as we speak, actually there's a hashtag 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter called free Polistic, Like that's just of course, 89 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: that's just that's just how my family probably started it. Yeah, 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: including of course his father, who has been very public 91 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: about Thomas Tooho and Chelsea. Look, listen, here's the thing. 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: This is not new that Polistic is not necessarily plan 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: a for Thomas Tooho and Chelsea. It's been known for 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: a while. Part of it is just a system itself. 95 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Toohol likes to be a little bit more fluid 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: from a wingback situation and then making everything in possession 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: more central. That's why it didn't really work with Lukaku. 98 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: He wants more of a fluid, so to speaks, and 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: it forward like Kai Hards and then Mason Mount behind him, 100 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: they brought in Raheem Sterling. So now Pallistic is now 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of lost and he's wanted to go for a 102 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: while for a few reasons. He once minutes obviously the 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: World Cup is coming up. He wants to play. It 104 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where he is, he wants to play. And 105 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the added problem to this is that now that Chelsea 106 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: have an owner and Todd Boli, Todd Bowli, an American, 107 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to long now Christian Polistic and doesn't want 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: to learn out Christian Polific specifically to a Premier League 109 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: club to arrival like Matchester United were interested, Newcastle were 110 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: interested in Boli was like, no, I'm sorry, I'm exing 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: this and per multiple reports, including some of our own 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: with fad To Romano and my friend Bolton Area from 113 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: the Athletic Polistic was not happy about this. And he 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: feels like he's just been impeded to do what he 115 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: wants to do, which is just play. And and it's 116 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: a shame because you know, Chelsea in many ways it's 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: the perfect place for him, but at this moment it's 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: not the case. And he's not any minutes and that's 119 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: a worrying thing when you are talking about Christian Polistic 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: and the World Cup year. Yeah, it is a worrying thing. 121 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I meant to ask you about that. What you think 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: What kind of form do you think we'll see from 123 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Pulistic when we get to the World Cup, because obviously, 124 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Tougle doesn't look like he's inclined to 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: play him anytime sooner, at least not any any meaningful minutes. 126 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very honest, if this continues all the 127 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: way up to the World Cup, why would Greg bar 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Holter start him? Why would he risk that? Especially when 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: you have Brandan Aaronson. We're going to talk about some 130 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: striker opportunities for the U s M and t if 131 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: timulte Awaya, maybe it gets a few more minutes as well, 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: because he's also dealing with a few minutes percentile when 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: it comes to playing for his club and stuff. So 134 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, depending on how this form goes, Greg b 135 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Holter has to be worried about do I even start Polistic? 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: Which is kind of an insane thing to think about. 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: After the last few years he's been the leading man 138 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: for this American team. But this is not the gold cop, John, 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: This is not a friendly. This is the World Cup. 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you need a 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: player that's confident, that's had minutes, that's ready to go, 142 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and at this moment, none of those boxes take on 143 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Christian policy. Yeah, you have to pick the best team, 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: regardless of the name on the back of the jersey. 145 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: You mentioned some of the striker options that burr Halter 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: might have to choose through, So the center for spot, 147 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm wondering whether you think that's in question because he 148 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: started five different number nines during Conker Calf They combined 149 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: for just four goals in fourteen qualifier. Ricardo Pappy had 150 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: three of those and they in two games less fall. 151 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Since then, has not scored for club or country as 152 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: we record this. Some names to rattle off for you 153 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: for Rarera Vasque as sergeant, Right, what's your burr Halter 154 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: do upfront? What do you think he'll do? Well? That's 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: always been his conundrum, I think, and that's always been 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: the U S M T S conundrum. But you know, 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I have my own thoughts about it. I feel like 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: he could use it to an advantage. When you think 159 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: about Ericton hag Manchester United manager and total Football of 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: the Netherlands. They almost don't even need a striker. It's 161 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: very fluid and you know, attackers up front can move around. 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: So I feel like there could be a combination of 163 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that with the U S M and T. When you 164 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: ask me specifically about our number nine, I mean listen, 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: like like you said, there's a few names. Ricardo Peppy. Yeah, 166 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: it hasn't gone well. Now he's on loan to groningun 167 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: He's no longer in the Bundesliga, so obviously that's gonna 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: be either a regression or maybe something for him to 169 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: wake up on. I'm still a fan of Josh Sergeant. 170 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most natural number nine, to 171 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: be honest, US M M T has but again, consistency 172 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: has been an issue for him and now is in 173 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: the Championship with Norwich, so he has to figure that out. 174 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: But to me, you know, maybe now you're focusing about 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: three people, two of them in MLS random baskets. To me, 176 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Right, sixteen goals in twenty seven 177 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: MLS matches into the box, Upereta fifteen goals in twenty 178 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: seven MLS matches ch ch check four and p focus. 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: See what you fourteen goals in Those would be my 180 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: three choices. I don't think that it should matter that 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: you know you're thinking no, is MLS gonna be perhaps 182 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: too much of an early kind of judgment called for 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: great browth, and when you're trying to put him in 184 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the most prestigious soccer competition out there. But there is 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: talent and there is some hunger. The good news is 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: that he has choices. The bad news is that none 187 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of them are consist it so he has to figure 188 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: out who it is. To be honest with you at 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: this very moment, no matter what league your plan, there 190 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: is nothing like confidence. There is nothing like confidence. It 191 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,359 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you're playing, the Premier League or MLS. 192 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: If you're confident and you're scoring goals left, right and center, 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: you go with the hot hand. And to me at 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: this point it would be Brandon Baskets. I can't believe 195 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: that you would say that the U S M and 196 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: T is looking at a bunch of inconsistent players. Shocker. 197 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: It was ever thus, all right, so we go from 198 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: MLS potential strikers to prem defenders. Fulham. You've got Tim 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Reem and Anthony Robinson. They've gotten a ton of minutes 200 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: so far this season, have they looked well? I've been 201 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: impressed with Fulham. Actually it didn't start well of course, 202 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's never gonna be easy when you're a newly 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: promoted side returning to the Premier League. But Fulham right 204 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: now are eight. I've always been a fan of those 205 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: two players, specifically Anthony Robinson. I think he has a 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: lot to offer. You know, Tim Reems, I worry a 207 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: little bit us because uh e really he's fine, but 208 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: positional based. I worry a little bit. You need to 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: be quick footed in this group in the World Cup 210 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: for the U S M M T. I don't know 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: if he's the answer, but the solution right now is 212 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, there are a few players 213 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: as well that are struggling to either fine minutes or 214 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: even a club like you know, John Brooks, his move 215 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: to MAJORCA was broken down, So that's an issue. So 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: as long as you play competitively as a defender, and 217 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: in this case you are a Film in the Premier League, 218 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: then that's going to be nothing but a helpful thing 219 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: for you. And as long as Film continue to compete 220 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: and doing well in the Premier League. There's no reason 221 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: to think that great Holter should either ignore them or 222 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: be not start them. So it's good for them for sure, 223 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: but it all depends as well. We have to also 224 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: think about the type of opponent that the USMNT have 225 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: in the World Cup and what kind of striker you're 226 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: dealing with. And one of them, of course is England, 227 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: so I tend to be pretty good exactly, and one 228 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: of them is Harry Kane. An opportunity here done, what 229 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: a goal toward its So is it better suited to 230 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: be a defendant that's playing the Premier League that knows 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: the Harry Kane types. Of course that's one thing. Then 232 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: Wales and Garrett Bell of course you know, playing an MLS, 233 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to think about there. But as 234 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: far as Timory Montony obins, I'm not concerned. It's good 235 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: that Philima doing well and it's good that they're doing 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: well in such a good league like the Premier League. 237 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: They're getting minutes, they're getting confidence. Those are important things. 238 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: As we've mentioned. On the flip side, you've got Chris 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Richards the palace, he's buried on the bench. You've got 240 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Matt Turner, who's buried behind Ramsdale at Arsenal. What do 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: you mean You said it right, You're not starting, and 242 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: that's always going to be an issue. I remember talking 243 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: to um Lancarloso Saudio, the former manager of Mexico, in 244 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: respect to Mexican players, and you know, I would ask 245 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: him like, what what do you prefer? Do you prefer 246 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: a Mexican player that's playing constant minutes and league Amikey's 247 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: or do you prefer a player that's in Europe but 248 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: not giving him that many minutes? But he's in Europe 249 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: and he's in a good club and a good league 250 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: in Europe, but the bench, what what do you prefer? 251 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: And his answer has always stuck with me, and he said, listen, 252 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: they're obviously like, there's nothing like momentum and consistency in 253 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: playing minutes, but people forget that it's not just about 254 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: sitting on the bench. It's also about the environment that 255 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: you put yourself in. You know, when I asked him 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: this question, we were thinking specifically about somebody like Choky 257 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: los Ano that had just arrived to Napoli. He wasn't 258 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: starting at the time, but he was in Napoli and 259 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: he was playing alongside the likes of Lornzo in Senor 260 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: Andres Martin's. So he was surrounding himself with high level competition. 261 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: So does that help you as an American? So Matt 262 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Turner is not starting, obviously, but he is placing himself 263 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: in the club that's the best in the Premier League 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: right now, Like, does that help you at least with 265 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: some kind of level of confidence because it's not like, 266 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: you know, Sax Stephan is in the lower league at 267 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: this point, so that's a different situation. So it's that 268 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: sort of decision that Great Bear Holter has to do. 269 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: He has to think to himself, who is arriving confident, 270 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: who is arriving competitive and who is getting minutes of 271 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a contradiction when you think about 272 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Polistic because he's a kind of player that needs to 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: play at a very high level. But I think Great 274 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: Bolt has created a family, a united group, tightened it enough, 275 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: close enough to really elevate themselves when they're arriving Qatar. 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, some friendlies coming up at the end 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: of September, so we'll see what he does there. Last 278 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: one for you, Uh, we're recording this on Deadline day. 279 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I decided to pick the busiest day of your schedule 280 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: to ask you to come on the program. Now you 281 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: and my wife are giving me a nightmare, man like, 282 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing to me. Um, that's 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: why you're the bust because you said yes. Anyway, Uh, 284 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: Surgino desk loaned out to Milan. Do you like that? Yeah, 285 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that's great. Fantastic move. Fantastic moves. So Reginia just needed minutes. 286 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Chavvy wasn't a fan of his at Barcelona. I'm not surprised, 287 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: but now he can go to an asim Aland side 288 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: where he can compete for that wing wet position. But 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: at the same time he's going to the defending champions 290 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: of Said Yeah, and they are a very attractive side 291 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: when they push up with the ball, and this is 292 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna be nothing but great for him as a young 293 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: player and as somebody that can elevate his game in 294 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the league. That's you know, Now that he's played in 295 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: the Arativisy and La Liga, I feel like Said Yeah 296 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: is somewhere in the middle where it's much more technical 297 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: than Editivesy, but perhaps not as fast as some clubs 298 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: in La Liga. But with Asian Milan the best team 299 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: in said. Yeah, he now has a chance to really 300 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: learn from the best and really test himself. And I'm 301 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: hoping that he's kids as many minutes as he can. 302 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: It's a good move. I'm happy for him. I think 303 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: it will work out. By the way, he's a very 304 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: young player. He's already lived in Amsterdam, Barcelona and now Milan. 305 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Not bad for a young kid. Not bad, not bad. 306 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: You and I could do so well. Uh, he learns 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: from the best. We just learned from the best with you. 308 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Catch him on CBS HQ. I just saw him venting 309 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: about his belove Dustin Villa. Listen to him on the 310 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Kik Colosso podcast. Seriously check out kick Alasso. It is excellent. 311 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: I listened to every episode. If you like football, you 312 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: will love the show. He's got our captain's arm band. 313 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, lay my friend. Thank you 314 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: for this. Thank you brother. I'm gonna venmo you now 315 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: after that. Nice words, thank you to say. 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