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Speaker 1: of the edge of the unknown every day. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: to me ron at card Doctor showed dot com. And UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to read all of my email and see

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind. And that's really what this is about.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for ideas on what it is you're looking

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Speaker 1: you solve some of those problems. Speaking of creating problems,

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Speaker 1: So I've got this really great email in front of me. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're on two thousand five Toyota camera four cylinder automatic

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Speaker 1: as an April Fools prank, Now you know, I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you April Fools. Maybe I'm losing my sense of

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Speaker 1: humor as I'm getting older, but April Fools is like

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Speaker 1: a real waste of time, all right. As an April

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Speaker 1: Fools prank, we disconnected the wires that go to my

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Speaker 1: friends ignition coils. So he thought his car was broken.

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Speaker 1: He tried to start it a few times, and obviously

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Speaker 1: still in that omposition when the cables were reconnected, and

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Speaker 1: ruined the guy's car. Well, not really, but you sure

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Speaker 1: provided that it's not damaged, And what I would suggest

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Speaker 1: this case, you'll probably have to disconnect the battery cables

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Speaker 1: and chances are you'll be fine, but you've confused the computer.

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Speaker 1: And this is why if this were my car boy,

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing these past twenty five plus years,

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Speaker 1: Welcome Walt from MAUI. Well, you keep calling, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. I'd better see those plane tickets soon, Buddy, Walter,

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Speaker 1: are you there, Yes, sir, you're there right, Hey Walter,

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. And I just want to comment that

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Speaker 1: It's it's I've never been anybody's homework assignment like that.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna actually put that into the radio and

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Speaker 1: can I help you today, sir? Uh? Well, two things.

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. You know what we're looking for.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for the plane tickets, Walt. You know, if

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Speaker 1: sending unit. You know, electrically, it's probably seeing zero resistance. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: It might change under pressure, all right, and then if

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Speaker 1: so I don't know which wire to test. Well, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: the the three wire you're saying, it's a three wire

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Speaker 1: that's what The wiring diagram I have does not show that.

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Speaker 1: I guess I need to get one from Chrysler. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: after this. What this car is automatic? It's systematic, it's hard, dramatic.

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Speaker 1: I think that is with a twelve focus and some

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Speaker 1: I have a two focus for sixty miles and every

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Speaker 1: is this an automatic temperature controlled car? Uh? Yes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: But when it's really warm outside and the fan quits,

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I can't The nearest dealership is

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Speaker 1: So how are we gonna how are we gonna troubleshoot it?

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Speaker 1: How about because because the wall switches on the door

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Speaker 1: What's the problem the blower? The blower itself to it? Right,

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Speaker 1: The least the dealership could do is scan it for codes.

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Speaker 1: a scan tool. Okay, if you plug in a scan tool,

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Speaker 1: turn the key on so that everything is theoretically powered up,

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Speaker 1: can you read data stream or any type of fault

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Speaker 1: code information out of the PCM UM. I did not

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Speaker 1: get to that because well, for one, I would have

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Speaker 1: trouble finding the actual connector all right, well in it

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Speaker 1: can either be O B D two or it can

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Speaker 1: be HANDA three wire which is down behind the glove

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Speaker 1: box on the right side, if memory serves me correct, So,

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Speaker 1: but always keep that in mind. Um, listen, I admire

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do scanning for codes I scan everything.

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Speaker 1: I scan everything, even when I know it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a fault code. I scan everything during an

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Speaker 1: oil change because you'd be surprised what you learned today. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's there's always a bit of information there. So you

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Speaker 1: know that, I would just want to know that, do

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Speaker 1: you see a check engine light? Come on? Do you

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Speaker 1: see any faults? Um? So that being said, let's make

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Speaker 1: the assumption the PCM is good. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, but let's make the assumption it is. All right.

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Speaker 1: You want to go to the black yellow wire at

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Speaker 1: the distributor and see if you have battery voltage. All right,

447
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Speaker 1: if you have battery voltage there, there's a yellow green

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Speaker 1: wire that goes from the igniter back to the PCM

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Speaker 1: that's got to have nine and a half volts more.

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Speaker 1: If that voltage is okay, now we can actually crank

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Speaker 1: it using a scope and look for a square wave.

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Speaker 1: But I've got a feeling that you're either going to

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Speaker 1: find this car has a bad PCM or the issue

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Speaker 1: is going to be in the coil and the igniter.

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Speaker 1: Here's the catch which came first, the chicken or the egg.

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Speaker 1: The coils had a habit of taking out the ignititers.

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Speaker 1: So generally, and I'm going back twelve years, but when

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Speaker 1: there were more of the is on the on the

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Speaker 1: road and we worked on them more frequently, when we

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Speaker 1: got to this part of the diagnosis, we did a

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Speaker 1: coil and ignitior together. We didn't we didn't fool around

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Speaker 1: because there was there was no way to test the

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Speaker 1: ignititer better than what we're trying to do. In the

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Speaker 1: amount of effort you had to go through to get

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Speaker 1: it to this point, you're better off putting a coil

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Speaker 1: in an ignitor in it a lot of miles on

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Speaker 1: this car, Chris, I'm not not too much. Yeah it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not a lot, but it's not a little. So

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Speaker 1: at this stage of the game, if you get it

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Speaker 1: down to the point where it's not a where you

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Speaker 1: think it's a coil or an ignitor, once you confirm

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Speaker 1: that and you go through some of those voltage tests,

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Speaker 1: I would do both and I wouldn't look back, all right,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have any fear of it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Just keep in mind, why isn't that check engine light

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Speaker 1: coming on? Can you read data stream out of the PCM.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's probably the first thing I would go after,

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Speaker 1: just to verify and don't be afraid to test something

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Speaker 1: that you think is good. Sometimes you prove it's good,

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Speaker 1: move on to the next thing. At least you know

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Speaker 1: what it's not. All right up, So if you need me,

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Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor Show dot Com, I'll keep an

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Speaker 1: eye out for you. I'll be like I'll be I'll

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Speaker 1: be like Motel six, I'll leave the porch light on.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me know what's going on here. All right, kiddo,

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, You're very welcome. Chris. Good luck

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Speaker 1: to you. Eight five five zero nine zero zero. The

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Speaker 1: Car Doctors Show dot com. Here's a great question. And

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Speaker 1: couple of subtle changes to Hey, you get us this information.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a minute. But here's one

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Speaker 1: that came into us. Hey, Ron, interesting topic for your show.

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Speaker 1: As you know, the basic tools of the trade have

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Speaker 1: changed over the years. The dwell meter in the timing

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00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: light where once on the top shelf of very mechanics toolbox.

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Speaker 1: The basic tools of the trade have changed, but the

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00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: fundamentals are still the same. But the tools, those everyday

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Speaker 1: diagnostic tools and those basics have everyday jobs have changed.

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Speaker 1: So what would you do with a car from the

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Speaker 1: forties or fifties, or sixties or even the seventies showed

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Speaker 1: up at your shop but you know how to repair it?

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Speaker 1: Would you be lost without the tools the mechanics had

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Speaker 1: back in the day of the car was built. This

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Speaker 1: comes to us from Ken down in Baltimore, and I

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Speaker 1: think online to Ken. Are you there, sir Ken? Yeah? Ken,

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Speaker 1: great question, and uh, you know Ken has been a

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Speaker 1: long time listener. Ken. How are you my listening to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. I've can get an email from you forever,

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Speaker 1: I guess mid nineties. But were you ever a mechanic

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Speaker 1: or is this just something you enjoy listening to Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm an electronics technician and you can as you know

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Speaker 1: that you can apply a lot of that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: nowadays absolutely, I think to answer the question, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's we still work on older cars, will work on

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Speaker 1: cars in the seventies and the sixties. Haven't had a

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Speaker 1: lot of requests for the forties, but you know, even

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Speaker 1: the stuff into the fifties will work on it. I

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Speaker 1: still have my timing light and dwell meter and some

527
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Speaker 1: of the basic tools. The biggest problem with working on

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Speaker 1: those cars today isn't having the tools or the knowledge,

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Speaker 1: because it's easy to figure out if you understand the fundamentals,

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Speaker 1: but it's finding the parts. Finding the parts is the

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Speaker 1: real issue today because a lot of even the repro

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Speaker 1: stuff is just absolute junk, and it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're making something work with something that really

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Speaker 1: wasn't designed properly, and it becomes that much tougher. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It really got my attention because

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Speaker 1: it got me to thinking, you know, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: basic tools from the sixties and the seventies and so on,

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Speaker 1: and you know those tools lasted. I mean, gee, a

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Speaker 1: dwell meter in the timing light lasted what four or

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Speaker 1: five decades. Now we're now we're throwing out scan tools

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Speaker 1: every three or four years. Actually, the the dwell meter

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Speaker 1: actually it was a carry over to another generation of cars,

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Speaker 1: remember that, Yeah, absolutely, um General motors with commuter command

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Speaker 1: control and doing carburetors. Is that what you're referencing mixture control,

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Speaker 1: SAW and MC dwell And you know, we were all

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Speaker 1: thrilled that we got to use our dwell meters for

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Speaker 1: another five or six years, and by eight all the

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Speaker 1: carburetors were gone. But you know, it's it's the technology

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Speaker 1: is advancing so fast. And what I sometimes think about

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Speaker 1: is how fast we throw away computers today, laptops and

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Speaker 1: desktops and so on, because because the architecture and the

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Speaker 1: structure are so outdated. You know, if you're throwing away

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Speaker 1: a laptop every year or two, imagine what the MC

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Speaker 1: annex going through because it changes daily. It's we're not

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Speaker 1: doing that yet with while we're trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to google something interesting,

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Speaker 1: I say this to you, and I say this to

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Speaker 1: everybody out there. Google good Year round ball tire and

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a concept about creating a tire that's

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Speaker 1: shaped like a ball that will be attached to the

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Speaker 1: undercarriage of the vehicle and it will work off electric

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Speaker 1: electro magnetic induction. Oh boy. And it's the idea that

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Speaker 1: they can turn that ball in any direction they want

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Speaker 1: and they have complete control. They can parallel park the

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Speaker 1: car by making right angle turns with it. It's got

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Speaker 1: a cute little video attached to it. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: But it's it's really interesting to see where they think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go in the next thirty years. Whether or

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Speaker 1: not we get there or not, that's another story. But

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Speaker 1: you know, dwell meters and timing lights that'll look like

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Speaker 1: that'll look like kids play compared to some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Can't listen. I appreciate your interest, I appreciate the question,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to let you know that we're

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Speaker 1: So you stay on the line, make sure Tom Ray

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Speaker 1: out there in the mail. Nice talking to you too, sir,

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Speaker 1: after all these years, and we look forward to spending

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Speaker 1: more time with you. Eight five zero nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: I'm any in the car doctor. I am back right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. We're on NI the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna finish it out this segment. Let's get over

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Speaker 1: and talk to Dean real quicktion so I would Dean,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. Yes, sir, yeah, Oh, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh you made a comment of

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Speaker 1: while I go about, the computer won't shut the car down.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten two thousand eleven in pal and this computer

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Speaker 1: did shut the engine down, well in one. It told

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Speaker 1: me on the day it was going to do it

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Speaker 1: before did it? Okay? What what? What? What problem came

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Speaker 1: up prior to that happening? Uh? The first thing that

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Speaker 1: we we're gonna go on a trip to my daughter.

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Speaker 1: We got about fifteen miles from home and uh uh

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Speaker 1: long come up on the day, SIS to Bill, a

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Speaker 1: tract needs service, power being reduced. Turn around, go home.

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Speaker 1: I turned around, put it and drive. You wouldn't move,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't accelerate, So I shut it off, put it in part,

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Speaker 1: showed off, started back up, minted move. So I started

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Speaker 1: home and I got within three and a half miles

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Speaker 1: of home, and I looked down and said power, Uh

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Speaker 1: turning power off? Now, I didn't you shut the engine off?

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Speaker 1: He was still on every and what fixed the car

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Speaker 1: the accelerator, pedal sensor or the throttle body the one

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Speaker 1: in the day in the right. Yeah, see the difference

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Speaker 1: is and I'm sorry it was one in the car right.

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Speaker 1: It was the pedal assembly. See, I was sorry if

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Speaker 1: I wasn't being clear. In Walt's case, he was asking

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Speaker 1: me with the oil pressure wire disconnected with that shut

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Speaker 1: the engine down in in two thousand. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you make a valid point that, yes, they are getting

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Speaker 1: to the stage and the reason they shut yours down

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Speaker 1: is the liability factor of it being a runaway throttle,

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Speaker 1: which is what it possibly could become, uh as a

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Speaker 1: result of it, because it's an electronic piece telling the

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Speaker 1: computer where you want to throttle in computer telling the

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Speaker 1: other electronic piece out underneath the hood where to put

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Speaker 1: the right exactly exactly. So but um, yeah, valid point.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Dean. Let me grab my next one,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for being a car doctor listener. Matt in Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio eighty nine, Bronco high idole problem. How can I help.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What's going on? Yeah? I replaced the gear

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Speaker 1: and the pick up. It's a prank sensor on the distributor,

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Speaker 1: and after that I had it timed and everything, and

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Speaker 1: it seems the idol really really fast and no matter

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Speaker 1: what way I turned the distributor, it's idol is extremely high.

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Speaker 1: About okay, so let me ask you this. Why were

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Speaker 1: you working on the distributor. Did it not start? Did

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Speaker 1: it die? It did not start. It was a no

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Speaker 1: spark situation. And I traced it to the ignition control

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Speaker 1: modules which distributor and that did that took here. I

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Speaker 1: got to spark after that? All right? Did you happen

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Speaker 1: to look at you know, inside where the distributor plugs in,

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Speaker 1: there's a three wire or what we used to call

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Speaker 1: the hall effect state or did you change that as well? Yes?

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Speaker 1: All right, So that being said, you did a whole

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Speaker 1: effect on a module. Was there oil inside of the

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Speaker 1: distributor body? I couldn't. I couldn't really tell. It looks

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Speaker 1: kind of it look pretty clean actually, okay? Good, alright? Good? Um?

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Speaker 1: When you had the distributor route and put it back in,

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Speaker 1: did you happen to clean the throttle body. I did not? Alright,

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Speaker 1: so do this. Let's let's cover the basics first. Let's

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Speaker 1: get it timed right and it should be ten degrees

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Speaker 1: before top. Make sure you did you you did? Unplug

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Speaker 1: the set timing connector? Yeah, right, the pip right? Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: those were the days. Um. Make sure you get the

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Speaker 1: timing set right. Make sure you're looking at the right

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Speaker 1: mark on the balancer. Clean the throttle body. Did you

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Speaker 1: do it? Did you do a battery cable disconnect? No?

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Speaker 1: I did not. Okay, disconnect both battery cables. Join them together,

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Speaker 1: all right, leaving leaving disconnected like that for a good

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Speaker 1: five to eight minutes. Make sure you have a good

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Speaker 1: connection coming off the negative battery cable. There's going to

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Speaker 1: be a pull apart ground und plug. It looks like

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Speaker 1: a Ford factory connector. It's kind of black and oval

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Speaker 1: in shape. Are you familiar with what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: I think a right pull that apart. Make sure that's

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Speaker 1: good clean. That is the main EEKE computer ground for

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Speaker 1: that vehicle. Losing ground there will cause total confusion. Make

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Speaker 1: sure that's a good clean connection. Make sure you've got

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Speaker 1: good grounds good clean connections at the battery. Retrained it,

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Speaker 1: hook it back up, started up, Let's see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Call me next week. I'm on an ading in the card.

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Speaker 1: Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See