1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know what we're talking about this episode, 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve canceling the season after the Big ten 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: cancels its season. Why did the PAC twelve cancel? What 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: was the leadership doing for the last five months? Ray 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Anderson said, what about Pack twelve players? Will the sec A, 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: c C and Big twelve continue to play football? This 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: is a college football funeral and we have to talk 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: about our ratings and emails as well. I'm George Rice Stir. 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: He's Ralph Ampston and this is the PAC twelve Apostles. 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening to the PAC twelve Apostles podcast. 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I know that these are dark times, but we still 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: need some light. So can you please leave us a 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: five star rating wherever you listen to podcast, or, as 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Ralph would tell you, whatever you feel like the podcast 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: is worth. Leave us that um and share with a friend. 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Tell a friend about the Pack twelve Apostles, and if 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: you want to get ahold of us leaving email. I'm mad. 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I am m a d at Unafraid show dot com 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: and this week is probably more appropriate than any other week. 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: This is the Pack twelve Apostles, the podcast four Pack 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: twelve fans bi Pack twelve fans where we keep it 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: one hundred about everything, and this is the perfect time 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: to do that. Don't forget we are still giving away 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: for the next six weeks to fifty Amazon gift cards. 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: All you have to do is leave a five star rate, well, 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: leave any rting and tweet it out and tag the 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Unafraid Show and the Pack twelve apostles and you will 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: be entered. So, Ralph, Um, when we talked about what 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: we were going to talk about on the podcast today, 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: you said it was a Pac twelve funeral. So I'll 31 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: just give you the floor because you are normally not speechless. Ever, 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: and we were on the phone and you just I 33 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: was talking and you just weren't responding, and our I guess, 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: emotional state about this is completely different. So tell the 35 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: people how you're feeling round now, Ralph, I'm pissed. What 36 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: what do you what do you want me to say? 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how to feel. I feel 38 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: like I just I've been in a tunnel all day 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: long since the news dropped, and we knew it was coming, 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: so it's not like there's a surprise. But at the 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: same time, I mean, what do you want me to say, 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm grieving the season. Um, pissed for a 43 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: lot of the kids who were uh seniors, red shirt 44 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: seniors who might be done. And uh, I'm definitely upset 45 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of my friends who work in this 46 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: business who had either lost their job and and we're 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: hoping that there was going to be a season which 48 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: might create a possibility for some more content to be 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: put out there, maybe up the level of jobs that 50 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: are available for talented people in the sports media business. 51 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm worried for my friends that do have jobs 52 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: that that could see them go away, um with with 53 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: no football being played this fallse And I I try, 54 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I think I tried for a very long time to 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: be optimistic, not just about our chances to have a 56 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: football season, but about Americans and our ability to come 57 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: together if if necessary. And uh, it's all culminated in 58 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: in a great deal of disappointment today. And I'm just 59 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: trying to do my best to not freak out, because 60 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: that's that's what I feel like. I'm on the cusp 61 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of is a little bit of a meltdown. What kind 62 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: of freak out, well, I mean, like yelling, throwing things, 63 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: breaking things or or or cussing people out on Twitter, 64 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, kicking your dog? What what type of freak 65 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: out are we talking about? All right, well, we'll leave 66 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: the dog out of it. I know the Oregon fan 67 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: and you always has to mention, uh puppy abuse or whatever. 68 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you know what was funny that was? 69 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: I will tell everybody that was not intentional. It had 70 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Washington. Okay, okay, um, but yeah, 71 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I I'm I'm definitely in the mood to be a 72 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: little more sharp tongued then then I usually am both 73 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: in real life and and uh internet land. And I 74 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: think there there are probably a few people out there 75 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: who are listening to this, and I think that I 76 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: don't really do much holding back in the first place. 77 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: I promise you, I promise you for as out of 78 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: pocket as as I get on social media. I I 79 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: spend the first ten to twenty minutes of every day 80 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: like visualizing making decent decisions in my interactions with other 81 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: human beings. And I second guess everything I put out, 82 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: and I there is twenty things on the kill floor 83 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: for every one thing that I that I do tweet. 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm hanging on by a thread as it is just 85 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: to be perceived as a semi functioning adult human being 86 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: in the world of sports media. And this is not 87 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: this is not helping that level of discipline. While again 88 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: people may do not believe that I possess that I 89 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: tried to exercise on a on a daily basis, um 90 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: mad um, looking for people to take it out on 91 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: and uh, you open up Twitter, it's fishing a barrel. 92 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: And I just have to make sure that that I'm 93 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm exercising some level of decency and restraint and 94 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: grace and all that. And I feel like, uh, it 95 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: was harder today than it has been in a long 96 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: time because I'm very upset, especially at some of the 97 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: people that you had pointed out that we were all 98 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: going to be upset with, uh if we didn't get 99 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: our crap together back in you know, April and Yeah. 100 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: And the craziest part is is that then people will 101 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: will say to me, Oh, you just want to say 102 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: I told you so. No, I don't want to say 103 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: I told you so. I wish we weren't in this situation, 104 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't want that, Like why I I do 105 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: we do a podcast about the pack twelve. I love 106 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. Looking forward to the Ohio State game 107 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: was taking my entire family nature. I was off work, 108 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: off the radio, everything. So why on earth would I 109 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: not want college football like it? I don't. It's not 110 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: about I've told you so. It's just you're so frustrated 111 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: with what happened that that that's the only thing that 112 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you can say, Well, see, I told you that this 113 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: was gonna happen if we didn't do something different. What 114 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think of the fan 115 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: of the virus accusations people? That is that is a 116 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: low brow preaching to the choir. I mean, it is 117 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: just it is just so like sheepish for people to 118 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: repeat that nobody's rooting for the f and v IRUs. 119 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Bro nobody, You're just sitting and unless you are a 120 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: vaccine maker, you're not rooting for the damn virus. I mean, 121 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: and even then, uh, you know their life. You know, 122 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: you're probably talking about the people at the top, top, top, 123 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: top top, everybody else gotta be a pretty stressed out 124 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: right now. I would say that, you know, maybe maybe 125 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: there's some people that are are are rooting for the virus. 126 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, inso much as some people are front runners. 127 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: And so you know, if you have somebody who refused 128 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: to mask up, went on eight family vacations, ate every 129 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: restaurant and bar the minute that it was open, had 130 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of family gatherings, and went to anti mask 131 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: demonstrations and stuff like that, if that person wants to 132 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: accuse someone of rooting for the virus, then maybe that 133 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: person is just a front runner and you're the loser, 134 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: and they're rooting against not so much against you, but 135 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: they're just rooting for the thing that you helped put 136 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: out in the lead anyway, you know, So like maybe 137 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: that's a possibility, but it's nobody. There's nobody, nobody that 138 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: I know, has ever expressed anything other than if then statements, 139 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and those if then statements were usually fraught with worry 140 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: in trepidation, Like it's say, if you don't do this, 141 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: then we will lose the season. Yea, that's that's not 142 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Like how long have I been saying that, Ralph? Oh, 143 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,479 Speaker 1: you the longest that could be said and the loudest. 144 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I've gotten into a couple of scraps on on on 145 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: Twitter over things like this, But you know, I wasn't 146 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: making declorative statements like you like when you saw Florida's 147 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: beaches full um and you said they are going to 148 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: cost us the season, and we're at that point. We're 149 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: at that point, but like, what good would it do 150 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: for you to be like I was right exactly. I 151 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: could retweet thirty things. And that's why, truthfully, I am 152 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: not devastated or sad about today's news about college football 153 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: being pushed back to the spring. I was sad and 154 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: angry to three months ago on the podcast on Fox 155 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, on everything else, I saw this coming and 156 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: today like it okay. It reminded me of when my 157 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: grandmother died. It was so she battled cancer for seventeen 158 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: plus years. It left, came back, left came back, left 159 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: came back. The last time it had had metastasized everywhere. 160 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: And even though it was sad for me to see 161 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: her pass, there was like I knew this was coming, 162 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Like so it wasn't It wasn't like she drove out 163 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: the house and got in the car accident and died. 164 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I know that this is a morbid kind of a example, 165 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: but way to keep it late, George cheer and no dude, 166 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: And she was my favorite person in the entire universe, 167 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Like me and my grandmother were crazy tight. But and 168 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: it was sad, and it was hard for me. But 169 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: I think that the fact that I have been preparing 170 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: for it for over a year gave me a little 171 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: bit more, you know, Like it's like when you know 172 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: something's coming, even when it shows up, it's still hard, 173 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: but you you knew it was coming, and if you 174 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't play pretend like it wasn't happening, then you're not 175 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: quite as devastated by it. But I do feel the 176 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: same way that you feel about people in the business 177 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: and their jobs are at risk. Uh, college football talk 178 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: is done or the NBC site done, some of them 179 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: maybe coming over to Unafraid show now, like this is 180 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: like it's a real thing, Like this is not a game. 181 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Like people's lives and livelihood are at risk, and so 182 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: people were in the thing that bothers me the most 183 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: about this. I did not think that this was going 184 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: to be as divisive of an issue for college football 185 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: as the coronavirus has been. Just in general. You have 186 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: I guess college coaches on one side. You have presidents 187 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: and eight s on another side. You have media members 188 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: on another side, and it's like you have people like 189 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Joe Klatt saying, oh, listen to the kids, pay attention 190 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: to the kids, but nobody really cared what college athletes 191 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: have to say at any other point in time. I 192 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: just it just makes no sense to me, Ralph, How 193 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: how college football? How we are here? And there are 194 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: so many varying opinions on this. You have medical experts 195 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: from the a c C. Saying I see a path 196 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: where we can play Pact twelve. People are like, yep, nope, 197 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: hell no, this is a terrible idea. Did did money 198 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: and revenue come up? Nope, didn't even come up, because 199 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: the money and revenue should not be the actual answer. 200 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: So here is the question, why did the Pack twelve canceled? 201 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it canceled for two reasons. John Wilner thinks 202 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: it canceled for four. And how many do would you say, Ralph, 203 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: one that the Big ten did it and they were 204 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: always gonna follow. I think yeah, So one do you 205 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: think the Pact twelve would have been the only lead 206 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: to drop out? Let's say that not even the Mountain 207 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: West does. It's a it's a sad shame, but I'm 208 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna say no because we don't lead, like the back 209 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: to have doesn't lead on too many things. They kind 210 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: of they don't want to be last, but they definitely don't. 211 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: But Larry Scott and company is not going to stick 212 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: their neck out and be first. They lead synchronized water 213 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: polo championships and everything else they're following. Yeah. So, so 214 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the two reasons why I've said that they that they canceled. 215 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Number one is liability. I think that the liability of 216 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: the schools is greater than the revenue that was going 217 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: to be generated. That that the additional health risk that 218 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Wilner talks about that those are going which we're gonna 219 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: talk about in a second, that those factored heavily into 220 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: the decision. And the second minor like if like if 221 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: you have a major and a minor. The minor thing 222 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: was they had no clue how they were gonna deal 223 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: with we are united the players, and how they were 224 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna deal with the other player demands if we want 225 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: to play. So I don't think that. I think that 226 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: the conferences are woefully underprepared for that, and that those 227 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: are the two reasons. And John John Wilner in his article, 228 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I tweeted it out I'll put it in the show notes. 229 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: He said that there were four issues that dominated the 230 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: report that came out of the conference. Number one was 231 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: viral spread. That nine of the eleven local jurisdictions that 232 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: are home to the Pack twelve campuses are currently experiencing 233 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: dangerous or uncontrolled levels of community spread. Okay, but told 234 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: me that that was a thing he liked most about 235 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the conference was that was the different diverse terrains. Remember 236 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: when I asked him about, you know, are you gonna 237 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: do anything to lead on the issue of marijuana when 238 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: it's about to be Your entire conference is in a 239 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: legalized area, whereas nobody else faces that burden, and his 240 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: his answer to that question was that, like, hey, what 241 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: we will Variety essentially said, variety is the spice of 242 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: life for the for the back twelve. And now you 243 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: know you actually see one of the biggest challenges of 244 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: being spread out over such a large Um. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um. 245 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: Number two reasons health restrictions. So you already have cal 246 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: usc and U c l A who can't throw balls 247 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: at this point in time. They can with the they've 248 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: been cleared by the state, but not by county officials 249 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: to allow the quarterbacks and receivers to play catch. When 250 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I go on social media, Ralph and I see people 251 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: that I know in Atlanta, North Carolina, all of it, 252 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: like all of these states, and I'm like, it feels 253 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: like we are in two different worlds because I live 254 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: in California. Like it's still it's not locked down, but 255 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: it's people are eating in restaurants, they're eating outside under 256 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: pop up tarps that it's not like nothing is open. 257 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: And when I see people there out there at Whole 258 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Last weddings like normal, like nothing is going on, like 259 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: and it is like we are living in two separate planets. 260 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: And the players saying photos of people from Clemson with 261 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: their helmets on all of that that's bizarre to people 262 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: out in the Pack twelve territory right now, and I 263 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: understand that. And California is different. It's also home to 264 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: a third of our teams in the conference, but it's 265 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: also the only state where hair salons aren't operational right now. 266 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I think California has a tendency to overreach and over legislate, 267 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: and you know they they're about to kill Uber just 268 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: through over legislation of of saying like no, you have 269 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: to treat your your temp employees in the gig economy 270 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: like real employees. So there's not gonna be uber in 271 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: California anymore. Pretty soon. They already killed esp Nation and 272 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: all those sports blogger sites by saying that you box 273 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: media had to pay them like actual employees when they 274 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: knew what they were getting into. So that's I think 275 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: California just has this tendency to overreach and overprotect. And 276 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: so it's going to feel a lot different for the 277 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: kids in your state, George, and they are going to 278 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: see different things all over the place. But in this situation, 279 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: California might be the old place that's appropriately reacting, but 280 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: without the entire union all in conjunction and participating alongside it. 281 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: You know, you look at California is just like, oh, 282 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: this is just another example um of them overdoing it. 283 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: But the entire country possibly is about to lose uh 284 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: college football if the other major conferences follow suit, and 285 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna be everybody's fault. And and if and if 286 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: something that big happens, then can you really say that 287 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: anyone anywhere overreached. I don't think you can. I think 288 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: you get to the point where you're like, oh, California's 289 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: reaction was the appropriate one, and Arizona and Florida and 290 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Texas were less than appropriate. Um ye, yep, and the 291 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: other And in addition, is still in point number two 292 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: health restrictions the local officials, this is a quote. Local 293 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: officials would require the quarantining of the entire football team 294 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: and operation with one positive case because they all reach 295 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: their threshold for close contact, So you would if somebody 296 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: catches it, you would have to quarantine the entire team. 297 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Point number three my myocarditis, which is what the Mayo 298 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: clinic causes, and an inflammation of the heart muscle. This 299 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: is what I This particular thing is one of the 300 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: things that I have been talking about because I've been 301 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: using the term that there are negative effects, serious negative 302 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: effects of the coronavirus that don't result in death, and 303 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: this is one of them. It can affect your heart 304 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: muscle and your heart's electrical system, reducing your parts ability 305 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: to pump and causing rapid or abnormal heart rhythms. In 306 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: extreme cases, it can be life threatening, so it can 307 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: cause blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, any of this. And 308 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: by sitting on the board at the Harvard Health Study, 309 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: they have told us these things. For months there was 310 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: anecdotal evidence, and now it is more. It is much 311 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: more uh like fully scientific based, and there are at 312 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: least ten players in the Big ten who have this, 313 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: at least ten, and it's treated in addition with drugs 314 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: and medicine. All that no activity for three months three months. 315 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: So while everybody was talking about COVID deaths, I was 316 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: always saying, don't worry about the death. You need to 317 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: be worrying about the unknown short term and long term causes, 318 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: which then makes the schools financially liable. George, let's talk 319 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: about that though. Let's talk about the fact that a 320 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: virus can cause you to have heart inflammation and that 321 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: that could result in uh in death because I have 322 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: an almost five year old daughter who over Christmas in 323 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: um barely escaped with her life when what we think 324 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: happened is she caught a virus which caused her heart 325 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: to enlarge, which caused her to struggle, have a heart 326 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: attack and code out like she doctors were breathing for 327 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: her and pumping her heart for her for ten minutes 328 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: before she came two and started to breathe on her own. 329 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: This is when she's only at two weeks old, and 330 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: we spent the next three weeks wondering if she was 331 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: going to make it out of the hospital. And it 332 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: was a miracle that had happened. But if you I mean, 333 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I've lived the near worst case scenario of this exact 334 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: thing playing out. It's why for the first three months, 335 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, before I drove out to Montana where there 336 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: was less than nobody, is why I locked myself and 337 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: my kid down in the house. Because if the possibility 338 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: existed for that to happen again, I would never wish 339 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: that nightmare on anyone watching your your baby girl pass away, 340 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: have to be brought back and and then be on 341 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: life support for weeks. Like the idea of that happening 342 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: to anybody's child, when we have fore knowledge of it 343 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: and we know that it's potentially preventable, would be inexcusable. 344 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: And while I do understand that there's another side to 345 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: that argument of that life has inherent risk, anybody who 346 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: comes in on that side of the argument then needs 347 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: to say and I would risk my child playing with 348 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: an enlarged heart in order to entertain strangers. And if 349 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: they're willing to say that, then I guess I'll hear 350 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: them out, but it's not a choice that I would 351 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: make if I know that that's a consequence. Yeah, but 352 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: isn't it real easy to to to say I would 353 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: say that with somebody else's kid. I mean, like it's 354 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it's easy to say it when your kids not in 355 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: that situation. Well, then there is the the issue of 356 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: the waivers before we get to the fourth point. The waivers. 357 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: People have asked, well, why don't even Joel Clad asked 358 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Joe, you know the answer to this. Um. 359 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: They said, why don't the kids sign waivers and then 360 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: they can play? The first thing is is that the 361 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: reason why they can't sign, Well, the they're already having 362 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: the kids signed those waivers. Then the Pack twelve and 363 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: the n C Double A said you cannot do these 364 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: waivers because hey, they don't they the n C double 365 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: A barth the use of waivers. But even if they 366 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: did and were allowed to use them, they are like 367 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: quintessential contracts of adhesion. And what adhesion is is when 368 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: someone says, when someone in a position of power, tell 369 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: somebody you have to sign this if you want to 370 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: do this, so you either take it or leave it. 371 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: That's that's what that means. It's contracts that are drafted 372 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: by a party in a position of power, leaving the 373 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: weaker party to take it or leave it. And that's 374 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: exactly what goes on in college football, and the and 375 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: the president of the n c double A. Mark Emirate, 376 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: already said there, uh, I think you used the word 377 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: deplorable or disgusting or something that that's what these COVID 378 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: waivers are. So I can't see a scenario where that 379 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: happens the and then the fourth issue was testing, the 380 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: capacity for testing, which the players in the Big Ten 381 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: under Big Ten united that we are united kids from 382 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and the we want to play the 383 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: all the kids from all the conferences, they all want 384 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: standard testing procedures, and that's not what's going on at 385 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: this point in time. They said they we are not 386 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. We don't have a contract with a private lab. 387 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Testing is a way to control the disease, and it's 388 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: not an effective prevention strategy. With the quick turnaround testing, 389 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: it can't be done which they do think would be 390 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: available in the spring. So out of those four reasons, Ralph, 391 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: the testing, the myocarditis, the health restrictions, and the viral spread. 392 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: Which one do you think factored in the most. I 393 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: mean it's got to be viral spread, because without this virus, 394 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: there is no Everything is a domino off that first domino. 395 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's 396 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: like no no earthquake, no tsunami. Yes, yes, that's what 397 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: my wife says whenever whenever she gets upset with me, 398 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, babe, why are you acting like this? 399 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: No earthquake, no tsunami. I like, I like it. I 400 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: would not personally use that in uh, I might you know? 401 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna try it. I'll let you let me, 402 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: let me, let me know how Aaron reacts to that? 403 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: All right? If I if I'm still around? Um so 404 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: the then that begs the next question, what would happen 405 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: to the pack twelve players? And this comes with the 406 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: segment basically to says Ray Anderson said what Ray Anderson 407 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: had this to say, Well, we're going to gather with 408 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: all of our student athletes and coaches to talk about 409 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: where we are. More importantly, we hope to educate them 410 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: even more completely about the steps that went into us 411 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: finally getting here. All of us want to play sports 412 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: every student athlete. Oh. By the way, it's not just 413 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: football or soccer and their volleyball, and there's cross country, 414 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: and there's wrestling, and there are other sports who are 415 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: are preparing now who will be impacted by this decision. 416 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: But as President Hill and Commissioner Scott said from day 417 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: one when this thing first broke back on what was it, 418 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: March eleven, UH, it was our duty to look to 419 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: the health and safety of our student athletes. And we 420 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: knew from the beginning and particularly as we got educated 421 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: along the way, that this virus is going to be 422 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: very fluid, So we were gonna be dictated uh and 423 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: really guided by the science and the medicine. So as 424 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: it has moved along, we tried to make adjustments to 425 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: change schedules, UH, make adjustments with the workouts. We want 426 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: to play in the worst way, but not at the 427 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: risk of the health and safety. So with the inconsistencies 428 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: uh in the virus, and then with this additional information 429 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: coming out that says you just don't have enough to 430 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: make decisions, particularly going into contact sports with these young 431 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: men and women to put them at risk. UH. And 432 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: as athletic directors and medical folks and UH presidents and 433 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: chancellors and coaches, UH in office, commissioner all the way down. 434 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: We're just not going to do that now. We want 435 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: to hold out hope that we have postponed, but we 436 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: have not counseled. We're gonna hold out hope that things 437 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: will change and we will be able to go into competition. 438 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: UH So, as an athletic director, in this conference and 439 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: speaking from my colleagues, were very proud of the way 440 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: we proceeded in this and I and I and I 441 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: do trust in our student athletes and our coaches and 442 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: their families. Are confident that we have done this with 443 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: their interests in mind from day one and will continue 444 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: to do so, led by the science and the medicine, 445 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: with the great infut from Dr Ackerman and others in 446 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: this conference. So you heard what Ray Anderson said, Ralph, 447 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: what was your take on that saying basically saying that 448 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: if people want to come after our players, try try 449 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: your best, because we will play again. I would advise, UH. 450 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: I know that he's a lawyer, UM So, I don't 451 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: know if I'm in the place to be giving counsel 452 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: to counsel, but I would advise maybe not challenging football 453 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: coaches in other parts of the country to commit um 454 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: what I believe our n C double There's always ways 455 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: around n C double A violations, especially when it's heard 456 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: from a friend of a friend or you get ahold 457 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: of a relative of a kid. But you you can 458 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: definitely recruit somebody off another team. I've seen it, seen 459 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: it happen. But for I would, I would urge Ray 460 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: Anderson to no longer challenge other conferences in which football 461 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: is a little bit more serious than it is out here, 462 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: to come and get your players, because they will some 463 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: of these some of these people will do that. And 464 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that the players are going to be 465 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: as grateful as he outlined that they would be, because 466 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: when he says, you know, I think they're going to 467 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: see that we were looking out for their best interest. 468 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, while some if you're if you're gonna open 469 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: up that can of worms, somebody from the Big Ten 470 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: could say, hey, we were actually the first to cancel. 471 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: We cared more. He should come to a Big ten 472 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: school or somebody from the SEC is gonna say, hey, look, 473 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: I know all you care about is the ability to ball, 474 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna graduate before all your eligibility 475 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: is up. Why not come out here. Let's see how 476 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: real football has done. We didn't cancel, come join up 477 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: with us next year like there's they will do it. 478 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I just I would. I would urge him not to 479 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: issue any unnecessary challenges or poke any sleeping beasts that 480 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: that that UH have. We have no reason to garner 481 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: their attention. So I've I've stand with Ray Anderson on this. 482 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: If you want to try to come get him, try 483 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: your best. Because that leads me to the worst tweet 484 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: of the day, worst tweet of the week. It was 485 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports radio host guy that I actually like Aaron 486 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Torres and we've worked together all of this, so this 487 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: isn't a dis on him. I just think the tweets bad. 488 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: He said one thing, I promise, So this is a 489 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: declarative statement. I promise every NFL caliber player that I 490 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: mean this is a very like he's already started out 491 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: on a promise, and use the word every you nothing 492 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: could go wrong with this. This will age perfectly, right, Bro, 493 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: anytime you use the word like always and never, it 494 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: will always age. Probably always and always A good idea 495 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: to never use always a never in marital arguments. Yes, 496 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: one thing, I promise every NFL caliber player, especially fifth 497 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: year guys, we'll hear from sec A, CEC and Big 498 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: twelve schools by the end of the night, not tomorrow, 499 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: not the end of the week, but by tonight. One 500 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: of dozens of unintended consequences here is that the Big 501 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: ten rosters are going to get absolutely pillaged if football 502 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: is played elsewhere. Wrong. That this could not be more 503 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: wrong of a tweet, because okay, first thing is is 504 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: that like transfer restrictions, get it, I get it. The 505 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: n C Double A has granted waivers. But do you 506 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: think the n C Double A is gonna be pushing 507 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: these waivers through in the next two weeks? Now, then 508 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: these kids are supposed to learn a playbook anything like that. No, 509 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: there are transfer restrictions. The and the first thing that 510 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: happens in case people don't know, when a when a 511 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: kid decides to transfer the school, which which we talked 512 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: about with the quarterback at Washington when he tried to 513 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: transfer to u C l A. Washington had Washing can't 514 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: block his transfer, but they could block his immediate eligibility. 515 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: So the schools has to say, okay, it's fine, he 516 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: should be considered for immediate eligibility. Conference then signs off, 517 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: and then the n C double A signs off. If 518 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: the school doesn't sign off, it doesn't even get to 519 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: the n C double A. So all of these schools 520 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: could stop everybody at this point in time from transference 521 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: somewhere else, and then the n C double A just 522 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna push them all through. Yeah, right, it's not happening. 523 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: Then the next thing is, most of these there are 524 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: eighty five scholarship spots Ralphs in the in the a 525 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: conference of fourteen in the SEC, or a conference of 526 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: ten like the Big twelve or fourteen like the A 527 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: C C. How many of those schools do you think 528 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: are at eight at eighty five scholarship right now? Most 529 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: of them? I would say that, I would say a 530 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: percent of them, or somewhere between eight and eighty five. 531 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: I would say, you can never depend on more than 532 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: thirty open spots in an entire conference at at any 533 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: given time, And of that thirty open spots, fourteen or 534 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: fifteen might be promised to somebody already, and so you 535 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: know that's definitely not something that you can count on. 536 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: But we also George can't sit here and act like 537 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: Tony Fields didn't just leave University of Arizona for for 538 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: West Virginia because of the pandemic, because they gave him 539 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: time to weigh his options. And if you have a 540 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: coming that's some saying is that you can't just pillage 541 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: people's rosters. And the other thing is there's also depth 542 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: chart issues just because you are a top player at 543 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: you know, if you are a top layer, if you 544 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: are if you are just in Fields, are you gonna 545 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: transfer somewhere else and play. No, You're just gonna either 546 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: wait till they play, or you're going to sit out 547 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: and go get ready for the NFL. I mean, like, 548 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: there are only so many guys that can, like, you 549 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: can't pillage rosters Like it just doesn't work like that. 550 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: And I thought it was the absolute worst tweeted the 551 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: day the week so far. I'll give you that you 552 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: are you are absolutely right that you you couldn't see 553 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: ten twelve players off of any given roster leave because 554 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: there there would be nowhere to put them. Do I 555 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: think that a lot of them will be reached out to? Yeah, 556 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: but I think it will work just like recruiting in 557 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: that Hey, we reached out to twenty five guys. We 558 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: only have one spot. YEP. I h like, I just don't. 559 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: I am old enough to remember, Ralph. Because people have 560 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: been asking, is the SEC, Big twelve and a SEC 561 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: going to play? And my response to that is I 562 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: am old enough to remember when the Big ten and 563 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve went to conference only schedules, and every 564 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: media pundit who is now screaming about players playing was 565 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: saying of that the ace that those conferences were going 566 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: to continue to play, that they were gonna add games, 567 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: that the Big ten in the PAC twelve were stupid. 568 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: They were gonna add games, play a regular schedule. And 569 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: that's what's going to be that. I'm old enough to 570 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: remember that. And what ended up happening Ralph like weeks later, 571 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: like the rats and that Pied Piper story or were 572 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: they snakes? I don't remember. Um, they followed suit, yep, 573 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: and they will be following suit with this as well. 574 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: So players transferring around are are you are just shuffling 575 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: decks on the Titanic? You are shuffling chairs? I mean 576 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: on the Titanic, it did you're on a sinking ship. Sorry, 577 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: I hate to be the bear bad news, but somebody 578 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: around here has to be a realist. Well, speaking of 579 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: the sinking ships, can want to talk about the we 580 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: are United movement. Don't do that, Ralph. Don't be that 581 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: guy who who hurt you? Who hurt you college football? 582 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: The back twelve heard me America. Wow, so we are united? 583 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: After today's After today's canceling, they wrote another letter. They're 584 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: good at writing letters right now. And would you say 585 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: that this was a would you call this scathing? Yeah? 586 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: They they didn't really pull any punches. They called out 587 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: Larry Scott after their meeting with him last Friday. I 588 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: believe they called him out in a in a letter 589 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: and and then you know, a couple of the players 590 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: took some individual parting shots around the conference, including Nick 591 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: Ford out at Utah. And then you know, this seems 592 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: to follow suit and be me more the same. I 593 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: definitely love to know which player if it is the 594 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: players that's you know, making that choice, because it's definitely 595 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: a choice. Yeah. They they have an addition, they have demands. 596 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: Of course, they want the preservation of this year's athletic eligibility, 597 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 1: with which the conference agreed to continued access to medical treatment. 598 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: Academics of sports services and meals for athletes who decide 599 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: to stay on campus. I think that's a reasonable demand 600 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: because they didn't cancel all athletic related activities should be 601 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: optional until uniform health and safety standards are mandated. Conference why. 602 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: I think that that is very reasonable as well. But 603 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: I know that you that you hate that we are 604 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: United movement for some reason, Ralph. But I think that 605 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: these kids who basically said that they don't trust Larry 606 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: Scott as far as they can throw him, they questioned 607 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: his leadership. I don't think that they're terrible. I don't 608 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: think that they're wrong. They are going to end up 609 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: on the right side of history on this one, Ralph. Yeah, 610 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: they they very well made. I don't hate that we 611 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: are United movement. It's just not a united we are 612 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: United movement, which makes it the name. They were not. 613 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: They most certainly were not. And you saw that when 614 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: it came time for Pac twelve players to start tweeting 615 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: that they want to play when we want to play. 616 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: It came it's it says we are united times we 617 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: want to play. There are demands even for that we 618 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: made to play. Who made that though? That's not like 619 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence made it everybody. Trevor Lawrence was on that 620 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: phone call. Trevor Lawrence was on the phone call with 621 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: with Dylan boils And and the other Pack twelve players 622 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: as well. Trevor Lawrence wasn't gonna sit out the season, uh, 623 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: demanding social justice reforms and a revenue share. He wasn't. 624 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: That we want to play thing was completely separate and 625 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: within the Pact twelve. If you go through the players 626 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: that were tweeting we want to play and the ones 627 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: that we're tweeting we are United, you're gonna find that 628 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: there's a line drawn there. And I'm not trying to 629 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: create some false conflict. What I'm saying is the we 630 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: are United movement was probably five percent of the conference. 631 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: It got a bump up to maybe ten to fifteen 632 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: percent of the conference when the players who decided to 633 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: come out and do this and say we are united 634 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 1: put themselves out there. It created a situation in which 635 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: they drew a line in the sand. And if you see, 636 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: you know there, maybe there's a movement that you don't 637 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: necessarily agree with, but you see your people getting picked 638 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: on because of the stance that they took, it's going 639 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: to push you one way the other to take a 640 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: side on that. So I commend them for coming up 641 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: with this hashtag we are united even though they weren't, 642 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: because it created a moment in which a line in 643 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: the sand was drawn and it forced a lot more 644 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: players to come to their side. But the truth of 645 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: the matter is most we just because all last last episode. 646 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: You can't say they're not united when they have continuously 647 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: become more and more galvanized, getting people recruiting players from 648 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: across the country to join in and make demands like 649 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence even tweeted it out, Dude, they want a union, 650 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: they want a college football players Association. This is going 651 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: to happen. I don't know why you think that that 652 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: this is not gonna happen, Ralph. So you're, um, let 653 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: me rephrase your question. You're asking me how I can 654 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: say that they're not united when the very small part 655 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: became a slightly larger part of the very big hole 656 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: and could have continued to grow and envelop more space 657 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: in that. But you lost me. You lost because you 658 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: you were lost when you started talking, because the premise 659 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: of what you're saying is, of course they're united. Some 660 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: more people that weren't united with them are starting to 661 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: agree that doesn't it is. It's self defeating. There's a 662 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: few players who feel a certain way and felt strongly 663 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: enough to come out and and put this out there. 664 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: It drew more players to their side. But you look 665 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: at a roster like Arizona State University. They had one 666 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 1: player whose name was on that. They had zero other players. 667 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: So you're talking about with walk ons, there's a hundred kids. 668 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: One of them, one of them put his name and 669 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: no one else tweets about. But then the same Arizona 670 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: State players when it came time to say we want 671 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: to play, they're all tweeting that hashtag instead, because it is. 672 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: It also came with demands. Ralph, they the the the 673 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: players actually did a much better job with the we 674 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: want to play demands because instead of talking about the finances, 675 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: they talked about the players association. Because a players association, 676 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: which is a union, is going to then handle the money, 677 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: so you don't have to demand a certain percentage of 678 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: revenue or or name, image and likeness rights. That's what 679 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: the the union is set up to do. But the 680 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: original we want to play hashtag wasn't calling for a union. 681 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: It was saying, don't cancel the season, give us a 682 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: chance to play that ralph? But is that not what 683 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: it is? Right or wrong? When Spencer Rattler put it 684 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: out there, do you think he was talking about a union? 685 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: He wasn't. When Justin Fields put that out there, do 686 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: you think he was talking about a union, he wasn't. 687 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: Neither was all got a ralph. They all got on 688 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: a zoom call. Eight they all got on a text message, 689 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: then got on a zoom call and they put this together. 690 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: The most important players in college football, Tuba Tuba Hubbard, 691 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Um Trevor Lawrence, people from the Pack two 692 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: of Javan Holland, like the most important people in college 693 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: football got together and put these demands together. And the 694 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: people the arrest of college football players, not all of them, 695 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: but enough to affect the money. Because because the big names, 696 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: the best players are the ones that matter the most, 697 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: they count threefold for everybody else. So if you have 698 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: them on board, you have people who are going to 699 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: follow them because that's what you need. That's the most 700 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: important thing that you have. So so even if you 701 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: only have ten percent of players who are saying it, 702 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: once they see that there is some action. They're like, 703 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I will jump on board with this too, 704 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: because because because they're not gonna cut Trevor Lawrence, they're 705 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: not gonna kick Trevor Lawrence out of school. So if 706 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: they don't kick him out of school, they can't then 707 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 1: kick you out of school. Otherwise you have a claim. 708 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: So that's how movements work. They don't start with uh. 709 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: The people know. They start with two, then they go 710 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: to five, then they go to twelve, then they go 711 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 1: to twenty seven. That's how it works. Well, there's nothing 712 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: to move against George. There's nothing for this movement to 713 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: move the PAS. I told the players. I told uh 714 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: Javon Holland, I told um Dylan Boils, I told multiple 715 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: other players that I spoke with the PAC twelve and 716 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: the other conferences don't know how to deal with this. 717 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: Their exit strategy is going to be to cancel the 718 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: two will to postpone the season, hoping that some of 719 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,479 Speaker 1: you guys leave for the NFL because that will take 720 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 1: back some of the hour because they were hoping that 721 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: that will divide the movement. That's what they're hoping. What's 722 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,959 Speaker 1: gonna divide the movement is not having football when push 723 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: comes to shove, a bunch of these players are going 724 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: to realize that they just want to play football and 725 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: they're going to be willing to not participate in a 726 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: movement that got snuffed out night. But that's the same 727 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: thing they said with free agency and sports. They didn't 728 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: think that the NFL players would would have would strike 729 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: and what was it, ninety four nine, no two. They 730 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't think they were gonna strike, and they did and 731 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: it worked. But they are people who crossed the biggest strike. 732 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: But that was a strike. Imagine if there wasn't a 733 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: game to go back to, why would there not be 734 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: a game to go back to? George? We just had 735 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: a season canceled because of COVID. They're not gonna stop 736 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: playing college football. It's too much money to be made. 737 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: They are going to play at some point in time. 738 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 1: College even if it's even if we missed this whole season, 739 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: college football will be back in. And you think that 740 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: the players will threaten to sit out after having already 741 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: missed a whole season, we'll see, you know what though. 742 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: You know what, though, because the Big twelve, the a SEC, 743 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: and the SEC might not cancel. They might not cancel, 744 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 1: So we if they If they don't, and both you 745 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: and I think they will, But if they don't, then 746 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: we'll actually get to see if any of these players 747 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: in any way we're impacted by what the Big ten 748 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 1: Impact twelve players put out there, primarily the Pact twelve players, 749 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: because there their their demands were a lot more all 750 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: encompassing and a lot more specific. If you have non 751 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 1: safety related UM instances of players sitting out in any 752 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: of those three conferences, and I would say that you'd 753 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: have to have at least five, you'd have to have 754 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: at least five for it to even really be a 755 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: blip on the radar amongst forty teams, then I'll say, 756 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: all right, that has some credence. But if they actually 757 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: play this year when you're saying the movement would be 758 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: most impactful, and not a single person in those three 759 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: conferences joins in to do what I'm not sure the 760 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: PAC twelve players would have followed through with in the 761 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: first place, then you'll know that while I do not 762 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: have an issue with this, and I think that their 763 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: demands are reasonable and I want them to get paid, 764 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: you'll know why I never took this seriously. Okay, we 765 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: shall see, um so Peter thamil college football writer, I 766 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: think for Yahoo. Yeah, yeah, for Yahoo. He tweeted out. 767 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: He said that today is the know that yesterday was 768 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: the first time that August nine was the first time 769 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: that the Big Ten had actually had discussions about canceling 770 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: the season and or and or pushing it back to 771 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: the spring, and the Pac twelve hadn't had a lot 772 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: of those either, And I just thought, I was like, 773 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: what was the leadership doing for the last five months? 774 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: Like nobody stood up in the meeting and was like, um, 775 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: what what happens if we do have to cancel or 776 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: did or did somebody do it? And they were like, 777 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: shut up, stupid, We're not doing that. And they were like, okay, well, okay, 778 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: I guess we want to talk about that. Then I'm 779 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: assuming they had to have had some discussions, But what 780 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: do they mean, like formal where where the meetings minutes 781 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: all line up with these are the things they discussed. 782 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: How could they be how could that subject not be 783 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 1: broached If it's what they're being asked about in every 784 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: interview request, I'm that to talk about it right then, 785 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: they must not have been talking because it's the only 786 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: thing we talk about, and they don't pay our bills. 787 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: We just we get together once a week to talk 788 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: about Fact twelve sports, and it's the only thing we 789 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: talked about because it's the only thing to talk about. 790 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: Will there be a season? And for months now, you 791 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: and you and I have leaned towards no and speculated 792 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: as to why no. I don't buy the idea that 793 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It's a singular issue. There are no sports going, Like, 794 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: what else are you going to talk about? I believe 795 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: in certain legends that illustrate Larry Scott's in aptitude, but 796 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: I can't buy into this one. This one's too grandiose 797 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: even for him to not have prolonged discussions on what 798 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: the conference is gonna have to do if stuff doesn't 799 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 1: get under control, like there is no other topic. Well, 800 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: I just think that people just that they were trying 801 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: to focus on I. You you, You make a very 802 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: valid point, Ralph. So I it seems unfathomable, unfathomable that 803 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: they didn't talk about this, and neither did the Big Ten. 804 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: It would just be just negligence, right, that you didn't 805 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: even consider this. And that's why I said. The only 806 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: way that I think that it wouldn't have been talked about. 807 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: Is if somebody brought it up one time and they 808 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: were like, shut up, stupid, we're not talking about this, 809 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: and they shamed them. So everybody was like, listen, I'm 810 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be the one to bring it up. I'm 811 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: not gonna bring it up because you saw, you saw 812 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: what happened when Jack brought it up. I'm not gonna 813 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: bring it. Bring it up, and let's try to find 814 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: a A four. That's the only way that that sort 815 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: of thing could have happened. Maybe I'm thinking more interconference, 816 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: Like maybe maybe that's mostly in reference to the the 817 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: university presidents and the conversations that they had, you know, 818 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: like maybe they just don't have reason to get together 819 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: and talk. But I assume if they would have, it 820 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: would be like what what else is there to talk about? 821 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: It would be like if you came out here to 822 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 1: visit me, George in August in Arizona and we only 823 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: hung out outside. Like at some point, somebody's bringing up 824 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: the weather. It's inevitable. No, we're not talking about the weather. 825 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: It's a it's a state of I don't know, I 826 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 1: just I have I have a really hard time believing 827 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: that that that there. I just want to know if 828 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: it is true. What else were they talking? Like? Is 829 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: there a TV show that we haven't seen that we 830 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: need to be include in on that would take precedent 831 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: to the point where that's the only thing we discussed, 832 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: Like is there something on Tiger King's level out there 833 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: that or or the Michael Jordan documentary where it can 834 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: actually take away some of our attention from this endless 835 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: vacuum of shit that we've been sucked into. Because I 836 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 1: want to know what it is. If that's the case, 837 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: I would love to be let in on whatever distraction 838 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: they have that kept them from talking about strategies for 839 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: what to do with these kids in these institutions. Yeah, 840 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: there is one thing, like one major thing that I 841 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: really do hope that comes out of all of this 842 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: is the anti double a who is the powers that be? 843 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: Starts acting like the powers that be? And instead of 844 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: every conference having their own medical people, which they all should, 845 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: there needs to be essentially a college football playoff committee 846 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: of medical professionals. That's what you need. A college football 847 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: playoff committee of medical professionals. What do you think about 848 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: Matt Liner tweeting the college football needed a separate commissioner. Oh, 849 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: kind of kind of like the Pack twelve needs a 850 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: separate person to run the media and to be the commissioner. 851 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: Kind of like that. I think I think he was 852 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: just saying, like college football needs like a Roger Goodell, 853 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: Like college football just needs its own dedicated commissioner. I'm 854 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: not mad at that. I'm not mad at that at all. Like, 855 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: at least you would have somebody in charge. And I 856 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: think that that's the biggest thing that we've learned in 857 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: this is that no one person is in charge. You 858 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: have you have way too many chiefs and not enough followers. 859 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: You have way too many people who who have the 860 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: ability to to to be the decision maker. Well, it's 861 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: it's like what you have in the Power of Five Conferences. 862 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: You have five separate democracies who are are living in, 863 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, under one kingdom. But there's no king There's 864 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: there's not even like a true leadership council. There's you know, 865 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,439 Speaker 1: there's five leadership councils and then they all make their 866 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: own decisions about the laws and the rules within the 867 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: provinces in the kingdom. It's just a bad idea. It 868 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: would be like the United States running with no president. 869 00:58:51,640 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: That couldn't happen, right, Yeah, it's crazy. Um So I 870 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: guess now, Ralph, it is time for our favorite segment 871 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: of Start Sit, Cut. So I have to put on 872 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: my game show voice. It is time for start, Sit 873 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: and cut. So today, Ralph, we are start sitting and 874 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: cutting two separate items. The first thing is the college 875 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: football cancel blame. So who are you starting? Who are 876 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: you sitting and who are you cutting for the blame 877 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: for the the college football season being canceled. So I 878 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: just want to make sure we're playing by the same 879 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: set of rules here. The person that I would start 880 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: as far as being to blame for losing college football 881 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: is most most to blame my view. Okay, oh man, 882 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I do not intend for this to be a political podcast, 883 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go ahead and start. Uh Donald J. Trump, 884 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: President of the United States. Um, I genuinely believe that. 885 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: I think it was February. He said, you know, you 886 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: have fifteen people who have it. In a couple of days, 887 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: it will be um down to down to zero and 888 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: we'll be good. You know that was that was February, 889 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: And I mean he had an opportunity around that time. Two, 890 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: not just in policy, because I know he did a 891 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: few things that were helpful, like shutting down travel, but 892 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: he had an opportunity at the time to really rally 893 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: his base. And the thing that you have no choice 894 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: but to respect about the president is that there's about 895 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: thirty five to forty million people in this country that 896 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: will follow his lead regardless. So he has a tremendous 897 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: uh power to enact good or potentially foment bad in 898 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: any given situation because he has a loyal base unlike 899 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: anything I've seen in my time in the United States. 900 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: And so, um, had he come out and said, this 901 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: is an incredibly serious thing, lives are on the line, 902 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna be known as the party who took this 903 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: seriously and lived sacrificially, and it's a patriotic thing to do. 904 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,959 Speaker 1: And he went everywhere with a mask, and he retweeted 905 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: supporters of his who were pro mask, and he liked 906 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: really really drilled down on it. All of those people 907 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: would have would have would have marched in in lockstep 908 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: with him. And um, that's the only way that I 909 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: could see our country not being in the position that 910 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: it's currently in right now. So I want to make 911 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: sure that when I say that I'm starting Donald Trump 912 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: as the person who is most to blame for uh 913 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: US not having college football, that people understand that that's 914 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily um political. It's more just a recognition of 915 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: the following that he well, I mean, certainly it's political, right, 916 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: but it's there. It's not. It's not a condemnation of 917 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: him as evil. It's over a very specific thing that 918 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: he could have done that he didn't that I personally 919 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: believe would have been the only path, the only, only 920 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: only existing path to having college football this fall. And 921 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so angry letters I'm mad at on a 922 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: Fridge show dot com, I am so I'm going to 923 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: agree with you for all the reasons that you said. 924 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm starting Donald J. Trump as well, because everything starts 925 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: at the top. You know that he had such an 926 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: influence on so many people, and he could have gotten 927 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: his supporters to wear masks. He could he could have 928 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: which which then would have had the other half of 929 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: the people who already were willing to wear masks to 930 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: do them. And I was reading an article a few 931 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: maybe like two weeks ago about how masks were divisive 932 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: in twenty I'm sorry in nineteen eighteen with the Spanish 933 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: flu as well, that people said, oh, they couldn't breathe, 934 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that they were going to require people to wear them forever, 935 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: that this was gonna be um uh demarcation line in 936 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the New World Order and all of this, and clearly 937 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. After the Spanish flu was over, people 938 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: went back to their normal lives and we haven't been 939 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: wearing masks since in this country. So like, this too 940 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: shall pass. And you know, I think it's hard for 941 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: people to see, you know, six months down the line, 942 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: a year down the line from from now, when things 943 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: are so bad where they're sitting right now, Um, who 944 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: are you sitting, Ralph? The players, I think I haven't 945 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: seen a lot of blame go to them for not 946 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: carrying the burden of being, of living sacrificially to the 947 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: point where they didn't you know, contracted and spread it 948 01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:00,120 Speaker 1: at schools like Kansas State and you know Rutger Is 949 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: in Michigan State and stuff like that, because honestly, a 950 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 1: lot of it happened when they all first moved in 951 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: was was when a lot of them first tested positive. 952 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: They brought it from wherever they were, wherever they were 953 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: at and wherever they were they were living in that 954 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: that put the colleges in a position to need to 955 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: get it under control once it was there. Um But 956 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't think the kids bear any of the blame 957 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: for this, even going so far as to say that 958 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: though we are united, movement didn't play a part in 959 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: why we're not going to have college football. I think 960 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: that I think that putting any of this for any 961 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: reason on the players, um, it doesn't make any sense, 962 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: just because it's so much of this is completely outside 963 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: of their their control and the way that they acted 964 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: inside of you know, this non bubble bubble of of 965 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: just the experience of being a student athlete. I think 966 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 1: it was a relatively insignificant, um um blip as far 967 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: as what caused them to to need to shut things down, 968 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: because you know, they had to take into consideration though 969 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 1: college students coming back, um, all sorts of things. I 970 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: just don't think the kids are to blame at all. 971 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 1: I would agree with that, Yeah, I would agree with that. Um, 972 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 1: But I'm going to sit the media. I don't think 973 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: the media is any blame for I'm talking about the 974 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: sports media, the rooting for the people rooting for the virus, 975 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: like this has become such a divisive issue and I'm 976 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: not putting any of it on the media who was 977 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: calling for people to wear a mask and everybody who 978 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: said that, oh, this guy's rooting for the virus because 979 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: he's stating facts. Come on now, man, Like, So I 980 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: am sitting the media because they get a chance to 981 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: get a reprieve breath, take a breath of fresh air, 982 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: because this was not fake news, This was not made up, 983 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 1: This was not hyperbole. There are negative outcomes that don't 984 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: include death. This is serious. So I'm sitting the media 985 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,439 Speaker 1: who was actually and then the quotes that they were 986 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: actually getting from athletic directors, coaches, players, presidents like these 987 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: were real people that they were saying this privately, and 988 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 1: people said, oh, you're just you're not being optimistic, because 989 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: they aren't being optimistic. You're just following the story instead 990 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: of instead of making it up, you know what I mean, 991 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: trying to spend it a certain way. You you get 992 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the facts, you get the quotes, and then you find 993 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: your story surrounding that. Who are you cutting, Ralph? I'm 994 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: cutting China. I think I think that uh, this is 995 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: you know what a lot of my acquaintances have had 996 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to say, is like, look, this is all China's fault anyway. Um, 997 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: And unless you can show me definitively that this was 998 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: intentionally designed and intentionally released so that it would first 999 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: rereak havoc upon their own population and then spread to 1000 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: uh the entire world, but most adversely affect the United 1001 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: States of America because because they knew that we wouldn't 1002 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: do the things. There's just an incredible egocentricism and ethnocentricism 1003 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: in the idea that like, this whole thing was about 1004 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: us to begin with. You know, we have, um, we 1005 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: have the most important day of the year. To an 1006 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 1: American is literally called independence. It's like a celebration of 1007 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,560 Speaker 1: not having to depend on your neighbors. And so like, culturally, 1008 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: we were probably never really going to be in the 1009 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: place where we all came together and pulled in one direction. 1010 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: It could have been done differently, it could have been 1011 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: done better. Um. So it was always going to be 1012 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: a problem for us. But I'm I can't collectively blame 1013 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: a country of over a billion people for something that happened. 1014 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: That would be like blaming America for something that happened 1015 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: in El Paso right like it's an entire country. Uh. 1016 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: You can put plenty of other stuff uh on China 1017 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: for any other number of geopolitical reasons. But as far 1018 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 1: as like a virus goes, it happens right like that. 1019 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 1: That's these things exist in the world in nature, and 1020 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: it happens sometimes, and and there's not anybody that you 1021 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: can point the finger at that's actually going to um 1022 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: change anything about what's already happening. And also you have 1023 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: if you blame China for any of this, especially college football, 1024 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 1: there's no recourse for it, right, It's just that that 1025 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: blame just goes off somewhere, never to be return There's 1026 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: nothing about what's going on in China that I can 1027 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: control in Arizona to make sure that this outcome doesn't 1028 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: happen later. So I just feel like we're so many 1029 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: steps removed, so many mistakes removed from where the origin 1030 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: of the virus was that I'm willing to cut China 1031 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: loose as even being in the conversation for being to 1032 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: blame for losing football. Yeah, I am not um, I 1033 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: am cutting Clay Clay Drivis. I've known Clay for a 1034 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: long time. I've done shows with him. I think he's 1035 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: an incredibly smart man. I am cutting his his his 1036 01:10:50,960 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: his epidemiologists, uh certificate, his his honorary epidemiologists certificate. Like 1037 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: he is not as much to blame as as Trump, 1038 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: but he is because he has a loyal fan base 1039 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 1: that that that corresponds with that same with with the President, 1040 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: and you know, they talk about facts and daddy he 1041 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: always talks about and he's such a smart guy that 1042 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: it's frustrating because he's like, look at where the numbers 1043 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: are today, Well, if you look at the numbers today, 1044 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 1: you're still fourteen days away from that like that they 1045 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: were on he was on that this thing will disappear 1046 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: immediately all of this. So yeah, so I think that 1047 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: So I'm cutting Clay Travis as it relates to that. 1048 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: Well he I mean, I feel like one person when 1049 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,679 Speaker 1: you compare, because the President was actually on Clay Travis 1050 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: his show this week, and I would say that one 1051 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 1: person has a very devout following and the other I 1052 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: think surfs upon the populist rage of of the moment 1053 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: or whatever the anticultural wave of the moment is. I 1054 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: think Clay Travis is just an incredibly talented surfer he 1055 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: can identify the wave and he can ride it, but 1056 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: I think that wave exists with or without him. I 1057 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: think he's good at capturing the thing that people want 1058 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: to hear, but I don't think he sets that tone. 1059 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 1: And I don't think he is really important enough to 1060 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,719 Speaker 1: really influence anybody else's thinking. Everybody who rallied to play 1061 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Travis wanted someone to be different than what they wanted 1062 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 1: that and so because if it wasn't Clay Travis, it 1063 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 1: would have been somebody else. So I consider him to 1064 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: be relatively insignificant, far less significant than he would consider himself. 1065 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: As far as just a person of influence. I look 1066 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,799 Speaker 1: at him as more of a uh cultural fad surfer, 1067 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Like he finds what it is that's annoying people, Um, 1068 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: that's outside of the majority of the moment, and he 1069 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: says the thing just like Matt walth just like other 1070 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 1: guys on Twitter. That's gonna get that bunch of people 1071 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: riled up, But that bunch of people already thought those things. 1072 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Wow, Wow, you're you're making some really 1073 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: good points today. So when we rate the podcast at 1074 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 1: the at the end, I don't know what I'm gonna 1075 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 1: have to give you right now, because you are making 1076 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: some very strong points here. Um. The next start sit start, 1077 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: start sit cut topic is um because since we're gonna 1078 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: have much more time off right now without sports, we're 1079 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna go fantasy vacation spots. Where are you starting, Ralph, 1080 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I'll I'm gonna start. I'm I'm definite, I'm gonna start Montana, 1081 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,800 Speaker 1: And I know that I just like literally went. But 1082 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I think most people they picture being in the mountains. 1083 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 1: A river runs through it type deal, and they picture 1084 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: that in their mind. To me, that brings peace. That's 1085 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,799 Speaker 1: like uh uh Walden pond from from throw like that. 1086 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 1: That's being one with nature, that whole thing, the air 1087 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,879 Speaker 1: is clean. That's a perfect fantasy for people who are homebound. 1088 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: That's a perfect fantasy vacation spot right now. A lake 1089 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 1: mountain snow capped. You never daydream about the mosquitoes. You 1090 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 1: always leave that part out and just cool, cool weather, 1091 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: nice breeze, animals from a safe distance, you know, don't 1092 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 1: get gored. Um. But I think that that's the perfect 1093 01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: fantasy mental vacation for the time of COVID. My fantasy 1094 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 1: vacation would be at a football game at Oregon versus 1095 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State in September in Austin Stadium watching the Ducks 1096 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 1: beat the Buckeyes. That would be my fantasy vacation right now. 1097 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: I would pay money to let that be able to happen, 1098 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,799 Speaker 1: Like I was looking forward to this for at least 1099 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,480 Speaker 1: three to four years. Ralphs like circling it on the calendar. 1100 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: So you've entered like a sliding doors moment of like 1101 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: the season gets played and the season doesn't get played, 1102 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: and you have to just let that other reality play 1103 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,360 Speaker 1: out in your mind so you can get to get 1104 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: to game day exactly exactly. So, so in in my 1105 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 1: fantasy world, the season is played, none of this COVID happened. 1106 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, Tyler Shug under center, you know, throwing a 1107 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: touchdown pass and you know being being up taking a 1108 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 1: knee up, you know, thirty one, thirty one twenty one 1109 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's the way. That's my that's 1110 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 1: the fantasy that I'm starting right now. What fantasy are 1111 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,639 Speaker 1: you sitting? Fantasy vacation? Are you sitting? Well, hold on, 1112 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: but my whole family is there, my kids, my wife, 1113 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: everybody's jumping up and yelling and screaming and excited that's 1114 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:44,879 Speaker 1: the fantasy where you sit. What fantasy vacation are you sitting? Oh, Florida, 1115 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I've never been. Um, I mean I I think I've 1116 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: never been. I got a box of my mom's stuff 1117 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 1: and she definitely was in like Cape Canaveral in a 1118 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: photo with like, uh, Space Shuttle in the background, and 1119 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't know she brought me or not, so like that. 1120 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I've been to Florida, but obviously not in my consciousness, 1121 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,600 Speaker 1: there's no But I've always imagined that it would be 1122 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: fun to go, um, hit some beaches and uh and 1123 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, Disney World and do all that stuff. And 1124 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and sit that that mental fantasy 1125 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 1: because not only do I deem Florida partially responsible for 1126 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 1: why we're not having college football and why I have 1127 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: to daydream about going places in the first place, Um, 1128 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: I also saw that you know, like two hundred and 1129 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 1: seventy six people passed away just yesterday and the place 1130 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 1: sounds like a giant um nightmare and and uh, you 1131 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: know would not be able to be at peace being 1132 01:17:53,320 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: out and about there. So we're sitting Florida vacations, dude, 1133 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: I am, I am sitting Texas, Florida, Georgia. I'm sitting 1134 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: anywhere where they're not wearing masks right right now, I 1135 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: don't care where I'm sitting all of those places because 1136 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated with them because college football was canceled. 1137 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 1: I know, everything is my I wait, I thought it 1138 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 1: wasn't that bothered. You talked yourself into into it? Or 1139 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: is it my stress that's bleeding through. I don't know, 1140 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 1: like I wasn't that upset today, but but maybe because 1141 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: I have a tendency to compartmentalize, and maybe I just 1142 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: talked myself into my emotions, Like I just walked through 1143 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,440 Speaker 1: this like there was a this was a therapeutic podcast. 1144 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,720 Speaker 1: And now I keep when I'm having an opportunity to 1145 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: start sitting and cut fantasy vacations, they're all coming back 1146 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 1: to college football. Well, maybe maybe you're just mad in 1147 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the fantasy. Maybe you just tapped into what your emotions 1148 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: in that fantasy situation of not going to Texas because 1149 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 1: those people um engaged in some assholary. Uh, maybe that's 1150 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 1: what Maybe it's a crossover concerned. Maybe George isn't necessarily upset, 1151 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 1: but but having to eliminate fantasy vacation version of George 1152 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: is upset. Yeah, because I like vacation. If you follow 1153 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 1: my family on Instagram or Twitter, Ralph, do we do 1154 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 1: we have fun vacations or at least they look fun. Hey, 1155 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: you're smiling to the pictures as we as we tell 1156 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 1: the kids, Hey, hey, hey, you better you better smile. 1157 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 1: Wise you're not getting dinner tonight. So no, So I 1158 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 1: like vacation, but this is just this is just no 1159 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 1: way bueno. And I'm sitting them. Actually I probably should 1160 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,639 Speaker 1: have cut them. Who are you cutting? What fantasy vacation spots? 1161 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 1: Are you cutting anywhere that you have to take an airplane? 1162 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 1: My wife just had um has a friend out in 1163 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina who works in hr UM. So you know 1164 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 1: that's a terrible for anybody who's listening to this who 1165 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 1: works in hr I'm sorry because you're doing you're doing 1166 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: nothing but like delivering bad news while having to retrain 1167 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: the staff that is left over and and isn't either 1168 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: furloughed or laid off two UM to to update their 1169 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: diversity training skill set for how they talk to other people. 1170 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 1: And like, it's just it's it's a bad news existence. 1171 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: And so she's out there working from home. Um, and so, uh, 1172 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: she's a good friend of ours. My wife's best friend 1173 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 1: was my wife's maid of honor. So she's been out 1174 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: there by herself for the last few months. So my 1175 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: wife flies out to North Carolina last week, spends about 1176 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: eight days with her, and just got back. And the 1177 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 1: experience of flying, just from talking to her on the 1178 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: way out there and on the way back, seems like 1179 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: an absolute mess of just an entire It seems like, 1180 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, back when, uh after nine eleven, when there 1181 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 1: was that just nervousness to fly and you'd see people 1182 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: giving each other the side eye and and old ladies 1183 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 1: racially profiling from their seats, it feels like it's more 1184 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: of that just a general nervousness. You want to make 1185 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: sure that, you know, everybody has their face covered up, 1186 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: which is ironic because you know, there used to be 1187 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: that suspicion of people who if you were yeah yeah, 1188 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 1: that if you came out in a burka, that that 1189 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 1: you were dangerous, And now it's like, hey, no, you're 1190 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: you're dangerous if your face is not covered up right, 1191 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: And then those those old ladies that were racially profiling, um, 1192 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, or like mistaking seats for people you know, 1193 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,400 Speaker 1: from anywhere else in the world. You know, the their 1194 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 1: their energy has now then dedicated to giving those side 1195 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 1: eyed stairs to UH people of Asian descent, and like 1196 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 1: it just feels very much sort of the same, Like 1197 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 1: nobody wants to be near each other. Everybody just wants 1198 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: to get it over with. Everybody's got a little bit 1199 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 1: of extra concern for their safety, everybody's a little extra judge. 1200 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I think it took a long 1201 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 1: a lot of people a long time to be comfortable 1202 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 1: with flying again after that, the whole situation, and after 1203 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 1: talking to my wife, you know, she paid on the 1204 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 1: way back to UH to upgrade just to not have 1205 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:43,639 Speaker 1: somebody in the middle seat. And what's HER's flight full? 1206 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: She had a layover on the way out to Charlotte, 1207 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,720 Speaker 1: and on the way to like St. Louis had a 1208 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,719 Speaker 1: third and then the plane from St. Louis to Charlotte 1209 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,600 Speaker 1: was full, and so like they're starting to sell the 1210 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 1: whole plane. Uh, these airlines are and I guess it's 1211 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 1: just a bunch of people who look really unhappy to 1212 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 1: be there. And so I'm I'm all all vacations that 1213 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: involved boarding an aircraft for me. Um have been cut 1214 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: from from my my fantasy vacation bank. Um. I am 1215 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 1: cutting party destinations. Like I was a person when I 1216 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 1: used to travel, when I was younger, I would go 1217 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: to places where it was fun to party. Wouldn't like 1218 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I've been to so many places that have great you know, 1219 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 1: historical sites and all of that, and I did not 1220 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 1: see them because I was too busy trying to party, sleep, 1221 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 1: sleeping all day out all night, and it was just 1222 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 1: a waste of you know, just a waste of opportunity. 1223 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: And now I am the complete opposite. I don't care 1224 01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: about the party. I want to go do hit all 1225 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 1: the historical sites, tasty indigenous food from that area, and 1226 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: all of that. Because my ideal trip, to my ideal 1227 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:15,479 Speaker 1: trip is if I could take like two months and 1228 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 1: travel around the world, stay in a location for a 1229 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: few days, and just eat the best food from that 1230 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: restaurant Ralph. The only way I would give up this podcast, 1231 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the only way I would give up my my media 1232 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 1: career all of that is if I could have Anthony 1233 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: Bourdain's job, the late Anthony Bourdine, getting a chance to 1234 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 1: travel around, talk to good people, stay in great hotels 1235 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 1: and eat food like and then talk about it. That 1236 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: is the that is like living the dream. And then 1237 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,920 Speaker 1: if I got a chance to talk about sports in 1238 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 1: the meantime, too good, God, I am I'm not sure 1239 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,599 Speaker 1: I could be anymore or fulfilled uh in a career 1240 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 1: path than being able to do that. So you you're 1241 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: you've left behind the club for the museum. Yeah, uh 1242 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: not really the museum, Like I'm good for some mute museums. 1243 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: But I want to go see like I'm down to 1244 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: like go backpacking. I want to go ziplining. But then 1245 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 1: also in the in the afternoon, go visit the Mayan Ruins, 1246 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 1: go see the the church that I went to in 1247 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Italy that was like you know in four that was 1248 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 1: built in like four a d like come down with that. 1249 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:47,520 Speaker 1: We gotta we just gotta take the podcast on the road. Okay, 1250 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 1: you need to say you need a sidekick. We can 1251 01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 1: we can go stop to stop expand expand the expand 1252 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,840 Speaker 1: the subject matter. See you are see you are doing 1253 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,559 Speaker 1: a great thing with you have been on your health kick. 1254 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 1: You've lost a bunch of weight, and we I don't 1255 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: think we would do well together because I think that 1256 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,600 Speaker 1: together we would make very poor food choices. It's possible 1257 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: because I definitely would um oh um. Now I guess 1258 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,280 Speaker 1: it's time for our reviews and the and we do 1259 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:30,640 Speaker 1: have an email. We do have an email from the 1260 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: the man who sent us a previous email. And now 1261 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: are we being bullied at this point? Uh? I think 1262 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 1: bullying is about a position of power. And uh, if he, 1263 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean it depending is he holding a five star 1264 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,879 Speaker 1: review hostage? Because I guess that would be his leverage, 1265 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 1: that would be his power. So it's it's possible we're 1266 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 1: getting we're getting bullied a little bit. Okay, So would 1267 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,719 Speaker 1: you would you like to read the email? Yes? Uh, 1268 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 1: this is give me one second. I don't want my 1269 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: computer two to die while reading this email. That would 1270 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 1: just be anti climactic. Okay, So here we go. This 1271 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:23,800 Speaker 1: is from soul Cal who I called soul cat um repeatedly. 1272 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,880 Speaker 1: And uh, and I don't think he liked having his 1273 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: name mispronounced the way that George mispronounces Tyler Shuck's name. 1274 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. See see there you go 1275 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 1: with this nappy tongue. You just came with a haymaker, 1276 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Tyler Shug. All right, Shuck, All here we go once more. 1277 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: I drove into work in a rage of pistoffery that 1278 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I haven't felt since I heard your new segment, not once, 1279 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 1: but twice. You read my name wrong. There is no 1280 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,719 Speaker 1: soul Cat. Take a look up of and my email 1281 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: and it reads soul cow cow, you know, like the 1282 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 1: football team you cover in the North Division. I would 1283 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: expect this from George since he washes dishes while recording. 1284 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 1: But Ralph quote be better unquote. I was going to 1285 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 1: agree with well Ralph as well in regards to that 1286 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 1: we are united. Take of the conference members. Let's get 1287 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,840 Speaker 1: something straight. No one is united. You have a bunch 1288 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 1: of kids, although with a cause that I agree with 1289 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 1: to an extent, trying to take the conference hostage. We 1290 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: are weeks away from a football season. Oof. I think 1291 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 1: this email might have been uh. This was written pre 1292 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: uh suspension was written. This was this was a couple 1293 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 1: of days ago. Bro oh Man. This has brought it 1294 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: all back for me. Now I'm sad again, and you 1295 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 1: choose to engage now no chance. Point one. You're only 1296 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 1: united when you have a gathering of people that are 1297 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: from both the top and bottom, meaning the five star 1298 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,640 Speaker 1: will get drafted guaranteed. And it's not happening here. Point to. 1299 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 1: You have to be able to accept both scenarios of 1300 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 1: whether UH, your cause gets what they ask for or 1301 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 1: you're left walking away from your team in scholarship. And 1302 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 1: I just don't see them doing this if they get 1303 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 1: close to getting the boot. I could see many of 1304 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 1: these players leaving these this group and conceding Point three. 1305 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,800 Speaker 1: If COVID doesn't go rampant, the football season will play 1306 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,640 Speaker 1: on without those players. There's too much to lose for 1307 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 1: the conference not to play. Lastly, Ralph, you said you 1308 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,760 Speaker 1: would choose not to go with my advice because I 1309 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: put too many topics in my last email. Correct Well, 1310 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,120 Speaker 1: you actually did take my advice. I said that the 1311 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 1: segment was not good because it's about a useless topic. 1312 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 1: So long as it's football related, I wouldn't care. You 1313 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 1: guys made the last start sit are cut involving football coaches. 1314 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,840 Speaker 1: So thanks. I win so above all else from this email, 1315 01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: I hope you take away two things. Never my name 1316 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 1: wrong again and be better uh. And that is from 1317 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,600 Speaker 1: our friends Soul cap Um, who is a apparently a 1318 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Stanford fan that if I read this email correctly, so 1319 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Soul Calf soul s s O U l like your 1320 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 1: eternal soul soul Cap. Yes, okay, yeah, I think we 1321 01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,439 Speaker 1: got it right, um perfect as far as and as 1322 01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 1: far as his points about me being right, which is 1323 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:38,760 Speaker 1: the only thing that I retained. Um, I have to say, Uh, 1324 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: I think he I think he nailed it. What but okay, 1325 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to acknowledge that. But but how 1326 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 1: about the fact where he said that you that we 1327 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: actually did what he said and he actually judoed us. Uh, 1328 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and it might not have been as much judo. 1329 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 1: I think we were just like, yeah, he might he 1330 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 1: might be right about this. So let's add a sports 1331 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 1: one and uh yeah, and I hope hopefully the segment 1332 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,120 Speaker 1: is working for people. But if you are upset, feel free, 1333 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,639 Speaker 1: uh to reach out to us and and we will 1334 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,360 Speaker 1: will read it on air and hopefully we will pronounce 1335 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:26,719 Speaker 1: your name correctly. Yes, soul soul Cap, soul calf something 1336 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: among those lines. I just yeah, yeah, it's something along 1337 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:34,400 Speaker 1: those lines. Um So, Ralph, I guess the the last 1338 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,040 Speaker 1: thing is is spring football? What are your thoughts on 1339 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 1: spring football? Does it happen? Is it good? Is it 1340 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 1: a good idea? Because when the season got canceled today. 1341 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,759 Speaker 1: First thing, everybody says, well, there's no way spring football 1342 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 1: is gonna gonna happen. But these are the same people 1343 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: who begged for optimism about the fall season. You guys 1344 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 1: have to stop being so negative, talk about the positive. 1345 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: But all of them now those same exact people, Oh, 1346 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 1: spring football is not happening. You might as well forget 1347 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 1: about it. Nothing's gonna change between now and then. I 1348 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 1: have an idea of how maybe it could work. Um, 1349 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,679 Speaker 1: but you would have to have somebody who's far more 1350 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 1: intimately involved with hammering out the details of what this 1351 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: would look like. What about one long season like eight 1352 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 1: or nine games in the spring, followed by summer off, 1353 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,599 Speaker 1: followed by coming back and playing eight or nine games 1354 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 1: and then a playoff. That is radical, So like, yeah, 1355 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,919 Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to have to games seasons. 1356 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,480 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to play twenty six games 1357 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,679 Speaker 1: in a in a fifty two week year with college kids, 1358 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,000 Speaker 1: but you might be able to play, you know, sixteen 1359 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:13,680 Speaker 1: to twenty if you if you play eight games in 1360 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 1: the spring, come back, play eight games, and then go 1361 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 1: into a playoff situation. So not everybody makes a bowl 1362 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,320 Speaker 1: because everybody had two or three more games and they're 1363 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,000 Speaker 1: used to and then you only count the entire years 1364 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: one year of eligibility, but it's still counts against the 1365 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,120 Speaker 1: clock of when you graduated from high school. So if 1366 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: you're free to leave to go to go pro. So 1367 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 1: then how do you account for the rosters being different 1368 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 1: in the fall than they are in the spring. They 1369 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,479 Speaker 1: can play, so they should be able to play in both. 1370 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 1: So then the n C Double A would have many 1371 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,439 Speaker 1: graduates in January. They should be eligible for both seasons too. 1372 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh so then you think that the n C Double 1373 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,599 Speaker 1: A should grant a waiver essentially for players for schools 1374 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 1: to be over there eight five scholarship limit. I think 1375 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: the n C Double A should go to its room 1376 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 1: and suck on its thumb while the everybody else figures 1377 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 1: this out and they can stay far away from ruining 1378 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,919 Speaker 1: this process as possible. That dude, that is a radical idea, 1379 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 1: and part of me likes it, Like I got a 1380 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: little titilated um hearing that. Are you are you laughing? Yeah? 1381 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:36,599 Speaker 1: A little bit, A little bit. It's a fun word, titilated. Yeah. 1382 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:44,840 Speaker 1: So here here was my um proposal. Okay, so I 1383 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,760 Speaker 1: went with the eight game schedule, because the idea of 1384 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 1: playing a full schedule in the winter and then another 1385 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 1: full schedule in the fall seems like a health and 1386 01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 1: safety nightmare because players do get hurt, they need times off, 1387 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,640 Speaker 1: they need to rest and recuperate. And to have a 1388 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: season that would drag out into March or April and 1389 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: then turn around and then try to play again in September, 1390 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,040 Speaker 1: even if you pushed it back to the end of September, 1391 01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I think it's like more than very ambitious. I think 1392 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 1: it's a little negligent. How fun would it be to 1393 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,760 Speaker 1: have official visits to Pullman, Washington in February though, where 1394 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 1: the averagise forty one decrease exactly the same thing when 1395 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,520 Speaker 1: they go to Alabama it's cold and it's colden tuscalooson 1396 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:44,720 Speaker 1: in the wintertime. Two people don't realize that. And you know, 1397 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: I think that that will you You would actually have 1398 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,920 Speaker 1: SEC teams playing in inclement weather. Interesting, I wonder how 1399 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,559 Speaker 1: that will go. How about how about how about getting 1400 01:35:54,560 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: an official visit to Tempe in during springbreak? Oh dude, 1401 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 1: that would that would definitely influence recruiting, getting to see 1402 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,960 Speaker 1: all the co eds. Yeah, that that might actually help 1403 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:19,320 Speaker 1: out their national recruiting plan. Um my plan is eight 1404 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:25,080 Speaker 1: games in the spring, so no non conference games, all 1405 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:29,320 Speaker 1: conference games. For Obviously, for the Big twelve, that's not 1406 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,320 Speaker 1: that big of a deal because you only have ten teams, 1407 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,519 Speaker 1: so you can only maximum play nine games anyway. But 1408 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,679 Speaker 1: for the twelve and in fourteen teams conferences, somebody's gonna 1409 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,639 Speaker 1: get the short end of the straw like they did 1410 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,519 Speaker 1: when they added the two teams to the conference only schedule. 1411 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 1: For the SEC, I would go to eight teams, eight 1412 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:57,280 Speaker 1: game season and then expand the playoffs to College Football 1413 01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 1: Playoffs instead of four teams, expand it to sixteen teams. 1414 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,800 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have a chance to make up significant 1415 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,760 Speaker 1: revenue on an important game because you're gonna have probably, 1416 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, mostly eight no teams are setting then seven 1417 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of seven and one teams and you put 1418 01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 1: them into a tournament field and see who the champion 1419 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: comes up. I think that's the optimal scenario. What's the 1420 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: most suboptimal scenario? Like, what what are we looking at 1421 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:37,519 Speaker 1: as as the worst realistic worst case scenario that there's 1422 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: no spring football. So you used to think the worst 1423 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,840 Speaker 1: thing that will happen is they'll just be ready to 1424 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:52,080 Speaker 1: go in August. That yeah, yeah, that that's the worst 1425 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 1: case scenario. That means that that has to be worst 1426 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 1: case scenario, right, What what could be besides there being 1427 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 1: no football in twenty for this school year? What could 1428 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:13,799 Speaker 1: be a worse scenario than that that some of these 1429 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:22,519 Speaker 1: D one schools have to drop the program altogether? Is 1430 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:30,439 Speaker 1: that realistic? Though? Uh? I don't know. I mean when 1431 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,320 Speaker 1: you consider that you have to spend all the money 1432 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,960 Speaker 1: that you bring in, and a lot of these institutions 1433 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 1: would qualify for enormous loans and huge lines of credit 1434 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 1: based on the track record of success of college athletics, 1435 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,320 Speaker 1: So you might be able to restart your program if 1436 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 1: you're at a certain level. But you know, some of 1437 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 1: these schools, you know, there's been a lot of D 1438 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,880 Speaker 1: two schools that have just eliminated football altogether. So I'd 1439 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,640 Speaker 1: say the worst case scenario would be, you know, a 1440 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,920 Speaker 1: school like U C. L A that was all ready 1441 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 1: taken out a loan to as a stop gap for 1442 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 1: a seventeen million dollars or so debt now being a 1443 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:12,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million in the hole, you know, deciding 1444 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,760 Speaker 1: that maybe it's not in our best interest to to 1445 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:21,200 Speaker 1: bring back. You say, I like, can't cut football, right, 1446 01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: they can't. I would assume, I would assume. I don't know. 1447 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,160 Speaker 1: I just watched every junior college in the state of 1448 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 1: Arizona dump football. I just watched a bunch of D 1449 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:41,120 Speaker 1: two schools do it. Um. Watching the individual schools like 1450 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,960 Speaker 1: Yukon that dropped out of the situation makes me wonder 1451 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 1: if there's any any schools out there that are just 1452 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,120 Speaker 1: potentially looking to separate themselves from the headache of having 1453 01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:56,479 Speaker 1: to deal with athletics and and um you know that 1454 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,679 Speaker 1: maybe think this whole thing should be privatized anyway. Yeah, 1455 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,760 Speaker 1: but the hard of a problem is that donations and 1456 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: all of that stuff go up when your team is good. Yeah, 1457 01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:13,480 Speaker 1: like the bottom line of the school is effected. Um, 1458 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 1: maybe there's schools out there that look at Gonzaga and 1459 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,640 Speaker 1: they're jealous, you know that they only have basketball to 1460 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: worry about. I don't know, I don't know. To me, 1461 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 1: that would be the worst case scenario, is that programs 1462 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:27,080 Speaker 1: just drop out of of being able to house this 1463 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 1: all together. And even if to me, it would be 1464 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,360 Speaker 1: massively tragic, Even if it happened at a much lower level, 1465 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 1: like if it was like a New Mexico State or 1466 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, Colorado Pueblo or the the all the D 1467 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 1: two schools in the in the Armac or in Minnesota 1468 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 1: or stuff like that, Any of that would be devastating 1469 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 1: to me because it would just be you know, that 1470 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,120 Speaker 1: one piece of the the the iceberg that chipped away 1471 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,400 Speaker 1: into the ocean, melted away, never to be seen again. 1472 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,559 Speaker 1: You know. It just it just kind of reminds you 1473 01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,240 Speaker 1: of of the fact that, like this is all temporary, 1474 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 1: and it's all sort of hanging on by a thread, 1475 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: and so I want to see everybody hanging there. The 1476 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 1: worst case scenario to me is is a school just 1477 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 1: having football taken away completely. Yeah, And I think that, 1478 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,479 Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of people who we 1479 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:20,479 Speaker 1: named and start to cut, who believe that the NFL 1480 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 1: season it's just gonna go off and just gonna be 1481 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:29,160 Speaker 1: just fine, and that the MLB is gonna finish, And 1482 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, the MLB is already considering going to 1483 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,960 Speaker 1: a bubble for their playoffs, which they should have done 1484 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,960 Speaker 1: for their regular season. The St. Louis Cardinals haven't played 1485 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 1: a game since July twenty ninth, and they're not even 1486 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,559 Speaker 1: sure exactly when they're gonna play again. So yeah, so 1487 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 1: all of this is just very speculative and you know, 1488 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: we will see about the future. UM. Thank you guys 1489 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 1: though for listening to the back twelve Apostles podcast. We 1490 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: appreciate your time, I appreciate your energy and uh but 1491 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 1: Ralph m hm. When it comes to ratings, obviously, I 1492 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 1: want people to give us a five star rating. How 1493 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 1: would you rate this podcast today? Um? I feel pretty 1494 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,160 Speaker 1: good about this one, just because you and I talked 1495 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,559 Speaker 1: multiple times on the phone today before we hit record, 1496 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 1: and I wasn't much for words on any of those 1497 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 1: so I wasn't thinking that I was gonna have anything 1498 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 1: to say or even be able to talk. I did 1499 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,560 Speaker 1: a radio interview earlier today, um for us uh a 1500 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports station down here, and it was it was 1501 01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 1: a mess. And so um, you know the fact that 1502 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 1: we were able to even get up and go for this, 1503 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. See you talk to yourself it 1504 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,479 Speaker 1: so how so how many stars would you give this podcast? 1505 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,679 Speaker 1: And we'll go, we'll go, We'll make it a five 1506 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:55,160 Speaker 1: star effort for considering there is no considering the subject 1507 01:42:55,240 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: of our podcast doesn't exist. Okay, So and how would 1508 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:07,320 Speaker 1: you break up those five stars? Oh man, I hate 1509 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,599 Speaker 1: this segment so much. We'll go three to I'll give 1510 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 1: you three. I didn't I don't think I brought anything 1511 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 1: new to the table, and I invoked the president's name, 1512 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,240 Speaker 1: which is probably gonna make people stop listening to us, 1513 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 1: either because they don't want to hear because it wasn't 1514 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,080 Speaker 1: harsh enough, or or there's they want to say, stick 1515 01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: to sports, um, even though the president was sports show 1516 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:35,479 Speaker 1: today repeatedly tweeted, let's play college football um all week. Um. 1517 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, um, so since since since all of the 1518 01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 1: political anger is probably gonna be directed my way, this time, 1519 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 1: we'll go three to you. Oh see, I don't think that, um, 1520 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,479 Speaker 1: I would go three to you. I think that that 1521 01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:55,400 Speaker 1: you sucked it up, that you, you know, went through 1522 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,960 Speaker 1: your harsh feelings, you know, in your bad, bad mood, 1523 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,760 Speaker 1: even though that you were little chippy at times, I 1524 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,840 Speaker 1: thought that you came with some fair arguments. I think 1525 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,120 Speaker 1: you're still dead ass wrong about the we we are 1526 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: united things, But you put up a very valiant effort 1527 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:16,680 Speaker 1: and brought a lot of good energy despite you know, 1528 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 1: being you know, having a college football funeral and being 1529 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 1: very very sad, and you were the person crying at 1530 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,840 Speaker 1: at the wake, you know, like trying to get in 1531 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 1: the in the college football casket. And I was the person, 1532 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know when we get back to the 1533 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 1: house and everybody's talking and they're they're playing some music, 1534 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 1: and I was the guy, you know, just kind of 1535 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,200 Speaker 1: going on about his business and everybody's upset and they're like, 1536 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 1: why is it he sad enough? That was me? So 1537 01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm giving you three stars on this five star podcast. Well, 1538 01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. We appreciate it. As Don 1539 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,519 Speaker 1: corn wait, is it Don corne eliens who would say God, God, 1540 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,800 Speaker 1: bless good night? No, no, no, that's Russell Simmons at 1541 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the Death Comedy Jam. So thanks 1542 01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,160 Speaker 1: for coming. God, bless good night.