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Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: just Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry. You know, that

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Speaker 1: just sounded like like that's what happens. Like you're having

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Speaker 1: a nightmare and you mean wake you up in the

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Speaker 1: middle of night and he just goes, hey, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and then she slaps you across the face.

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Speaker 1: Real heart. H it's true. Yea, that is what that sounded.

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Speaker 1: It sounded that's pretty accurate. I don't know what got

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Speaker 1: into me. You were just super charged about this topic.

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Speaker 1: That's terrible. Super charged. I'll get it. It's like a

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Speaker 1: super charged engine. And I didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, that makes me feel a little better. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know Jerry, by the way, before when I told

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Speaker 1: her what we were doing, so oh my gosh, that

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Speaker 1: was my favorite toy when I was a kid. Nice

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Speaker 1: hot wheels are pretty great. Yeah. I had a quite

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Speaker 1: a collection, and I don't know where they are today.

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Speaker 1: We're missing huh. Yeah. I don't know if they were

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Speaker 1: thrown out or if if my brother has them, or

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Speaker 1: they're my mom's attic or what. Because I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: curious about have any value you need to find them?

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Speaker 1: They could be apparently, as far as hot wheels collectors go,

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Speaker 1: it could be in mint condition all the way down

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Speaker 1: to beater condition. That was how they rank them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mine would be beaters because I played with them like crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, that's what they're for, you know.

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Speaker 1: And there's value for a beater too, like some people

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Speaker 1: apparently harvest them for parts to rebuild, like a you know,

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Speaker 1: a new Frankenstein model. Yeah, that's pretty neat. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff you could do with them. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we should thank the fifth grader who wrote this article too.

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Speaker 1: Sad face. I complained about that, autoued to Holly. I

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Speaker 1: was like, this article actually says sad face like as

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Speaker 1: a sentence. I know that issues. I'm glad you said something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what if it was a fifth grader? Your feelings are

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Speaker 1: all hurt. I think your feelings are hurt either way. Now,

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Speaker 1: sad face, So we're talking about hot wheels today. I

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Speaker 1: had a couple. Um, my favorite toy was g I Joe,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciated hot wheels too, do Gi Joe episode

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I had the older ones though, you probably had

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Speaker 1: huge ones. Yeah, yeah, now I had the real ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't that's fighting words. Man. The ones

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Speaker 1: that I had were so awesome. They were like there

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Speaker 1: was a huge, fast collection of all of them. There

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Speaker 1: was like cobra. Cobra didn't exist when you were collecting

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Speaker 1: g I Joe. No, but how could you say, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that one that's ten inches tall and has real clothes

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Speaker 1: and fuzzy hair and the kung fu grip is inferior

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Speaker 1: to this little plastic thing. I think you just said it.

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Speaker 1: All the fuzzy hair says it right there. I don't

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Speaker 1: really mean that, Chuck. I. I don't have a dog

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Speaker 1: in that fight. Like, if you like the big g

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Speaker 1: I Joes, that's cool. I got a problem. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a quick side note. I have to tell this story

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Speaker 1: when you know how I used to do book reports

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Speaker 1: and you would have to have a visual aid. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I might have told this before. If I do, I apologize,

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Speaker 1: I don't recognize it. Um I did a report on

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Speaker 1: Franco Harris went in a lunchary school because he was

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Speaker 1: a football player. Yeah. I don't know why I did

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Speaker 1: Branko Harris, but um, I got my mom to make

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Speaker 1: me a little Pittsburgh Steelers uniform for my g I

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Speaker 1: Joe because he looked like Franco Harris. Nice. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was my visual aid. Do you still have it? No,

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Speaker 1: of course not. We have the g I. Joe's, but

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers uniform is gone. Bye bye. That's said. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure your mom put a lot of

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Speaker 1: work into that. Now would feel guilty. Uh So, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yes, did you know

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Speaker 1: that the number one vehicle manufacturer on the planet is,

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Speaker 1: in fact hot wheels? I did it? Kind of It's

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Speaker 1: astounding until you stop and think about it. Sure, Like

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Speaker 1: apparently since night when hot wheels were first introduced, more

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Speaker 1: than four billion hot wheels have been produced. That's more

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Speaker 1: than the big four Detroit automakers combined. You're like wow,

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Speaker 1: and then you think, oh, yeah, it costs a minute

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Speaker 1: it does a normal car. Plus. Also, it's not like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go, I want this uh Bewick cutless supreme

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Speaker 1: in every color it comes in, right, you know, with

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Speaker 1: lego stat is they're the biggest manufacturer of tires. Yeah there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder though, do these not count as tires because

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Speaker 1: because four billion times four that's sixteen billion tires. That's

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Speaker 1: a really great question. I mnna have to challenge Lego

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Speaker 1: or maybe just look up how many times they manufacture

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Speaker 1: Old Kirk Christiansen is not going to be happy about this.

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Speaker 1: Who was that the founder of Lego? Remember that's right,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were saying old ye so um, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the history of this stuff. Huh. So hot wheels,

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Speaker 1: like I said, have been around since n And anybody

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Speaker 1: who's heard the Barbie Trademark podcast will recognize the name

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Speaker 1: Elliott Handler. That's Ruth Handler, the inventor of Barbie trade marks.

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Speaker 1: Husband sure um and Elliott apparently saw a real chance

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Speaker 1: to muscle in on an already extent market by a

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Speaker 1: company called Tycho that had a line of miniature metal

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Speaker 1: cars die cast cars is what they're called, called Matchbox cars.

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Speaker 1: By the time hot Whales came around, Matchbox was already

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Speaker 1: there and had established a market, and Mattel said, let's

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Speaker 1: get in on it. Yeah, and The rumor is that

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Speaker 1: he saw his grandchildren playing with them and said, uh,

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Speaker 1: they kind of snake. I can make these better cooler,

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Speaker 1: and he had a um. As the story goes at

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Speaker 1: a designer which we'll talk about in a second called

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Speaker 1: Harry Bradley, and he had a hot rod and Elliott

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Speaker 1: was in the parking lot one day. It said, man,

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Speaker 1: those are some hot wheels. You got there? And and

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Speaker 1: commercials for hot wheels, did they say that that's how well,

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Speaker 1: that's how they pronounce it hot wheels to the hot wheels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: emphasis is on the hot It sounds awkward. They're like,

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Speaker 1: race your hot wheels. You can make you can race them.

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Speaker 1: Just go buy some hot wheels, that's what they That's

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Speaker 1: how they say it, collect all your hot wheels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that makes more sense in the context of a sentence,

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Speaker 1: post the in fact wheels hot wheel wheels. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to picture the guy in the parking lot saying,

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Speaker 1: you'd say hot wheels you got there? You know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, we can sure waste some time, we sure can.

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Speaker 1: But the first in is like you said, when the

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Speaker 1: first line came out of sixteen Hot Wheels they were

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Speaker 1: sold initially for fifty nine cent apiece. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 1: Hot Wheels UM was Harry Bradley and he was the

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Speaker 1: designer of that first sixteen cars. They were also called UM.

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Speaker 1: California Customs Miniatures. Was that first original sixteen group of

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Speaker 1: Hot Wheels UM that were released in nineteen so, and

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Speaker 1: Harry Bradley designed them all including apparently he got his

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Speaker 1: hands on UM. The first one, by the way, that

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Speaker 1: the sixty nine Corvette. That is so. Harry Bradley was

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Speaker 1: knew that the cafeteria door was unlocked, so he snuck

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Speaker 1: in through the cafeteria door. But that's called industrial espionage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe so maybe he committed industrial espionage. Um. So, like

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Speaker 1: money because I mean like they went all out on those,

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Speaker 1: when they stopped making the Um oh no, seventy is

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Speaker 1: when the suspension got an overhaul. Okay, So for the

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Speaker 1: first couple of years, like they were really putting a

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Speaker 1: lot into these things. Um, the tires were red line

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Speaker 1: say the same model car, um, the hot wheels will

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Speaker 1: them from Hawthorne, California to Hong Kong. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 1: let's move, let's ship the operations overseas well. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: it's the spectro flame pain is pretty expensive. It's awesome,

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Speaker 1: with any collector's item. As they started to downgrade the

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Speaker 1: components and the parts and the manufacturing and ultimately the

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Speaker 1: final product, all that did was make the original stuff

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Speaker 1: all the more valuable today because much fewer and fewer

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Speaker 1: they had actual axles, like you know, it was like

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Speaker 1: a real They were designed by car designers. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: they were made apparently to reach two hundred scale miles

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Speaker 1: per hour. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's way cool. Yeah. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Um so chuck right out of the gate. Mattel had

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Speaker 1: a hit on his hands. Um. They released them in

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. By nineteen seventy, Hot Wheels was a

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning cartoon in the vein of like Dune Buggy

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Speaker 1: and Scooby Doo and all those guys. Hannah, Barbara, you're

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Speaker 1: speed Buggy, Speed Buggy. Yeah, remember speed Buggy. Yeah. It

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Speaker 1: about collectors, um, But just to kind of button up

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00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: the history of Hot Wheels, it all came full circle

424
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: in when um, Mattel bought Tycho and hence Hot Wheels

425
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: bought Matchbox. So they're all on environmental at this point. Yes,

426
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: all right, we'll get to the design and collecting right

427
00:24:53,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: after this. So back then, if you wanted to do

428
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: a smaller version of a larger car and scale it down, UM,

429
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: you didn't have computer aided design and stuff. Sometimes you

430
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: might have had a blueprint, which helped, but sometimes you

431
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: just had to get out there in the parking lot

432
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: with the tape measure and just take some measurements and

433
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: then um, you know, be good at math, right basically,

434
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: And like like we said, Harry Bradley, who's the daddy

435
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: of the Hot Wheels designs, Who's the guy who did

436
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: the first sixteen Um, he was a GM designer originally

437
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: in his footsteps followed Howard Reese, and then after that

438
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Larry would and they those are something like the legendary

439
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: Hot Wheels designers. That's the Mount Rushmore of hot wheels

440
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, um and yeah. They would just literally

441
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: go out and measure these things. And that was one

442
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: way that hot wheels were born. Another way was that

443
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: And this definitely differentiates Hot Wheels from Matchbox is that

444
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: there are hot Wheels that only exist in the Hot

445
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Wheels world. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They they are called

446
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: the fantasy cars, like they're just the designers imagination come

447
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: to life. Right, whereas Matchbox only I believe has uh

448
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: bread trucks, well, they only have cars that are based

449
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: on real cars, right right. Hot Wheels has a whole

450
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: fantasy line. It's interesting that their own bites of the

451
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: same company still and that they just have kept that distinction,

452
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: you know, because some people are matchbox kids and some

453
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: kids are Hot Wheels kids. I had both. That ink

454
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: had a bread truck. Is that why you keep going

455
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: to the bread truck? Well, no, I didn't have a

456
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: bread truck, but I do remember having a couple of

457
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: like weird utility type vehicles. Uh that I don't remember.

458
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: There were probably gifts or stocking stuffers or something. I

459
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: don't think I like sought it out. I was always

460
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: into Tonka trucks. I thought Tonko was great. They were

461
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: obviously much bigger, but those were like construction vehicles, like

462
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: dump trucks and stuff like that. And still today. Um

463
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: that Volvo dump truck, the giant one, yeah, um with

464
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: the huge wheels, I think is one of the coolest

465
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: vehicles ever created. Yeah. I think I had one of

466
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: those when I was a kid. I didn't have a

467
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: lot of Tonka stuff. Um. One of my favorite Hot

468
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: Wheels though, was the little red Express truck. I don't

469
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: remember that if you saw it, you might it might

470
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: ring a bell. It was basically, uh, I can't remember

471
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: what kind of truck it was. I think it was

472
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: a Dodge, but it was just a cool red step

473
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: side pickup truck and it had the two uh, the

474
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: two vertical mufflers on each side that went up above

475
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: the truck. I think, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah,

476
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: it's really cool. And if you go to them the

477
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Peterson Automotive Museum in l A. Oh yeah, they have

478
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: a really cool exhibit there that I haven't been to

479
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: in person, but I was looking at it, a line

480
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: permanent exhibit where they have the real life versions of

481
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: the hot wheel cars and they have a little red

482
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: express truck, a full size one. Yeah, and I saw

483
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: it and I was like, whoa, you just die from nostalgia. Look.

484
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Might have cheered up a little bit at at the desk. Um,

485
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: but they have, you know, the gussied up corvettes with

486
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: the big chrome engines coming out of the hood. And

487
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: do they have the four or four two? Uh? I

488
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: don't know if they have the four forty two. But

489
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm but it's in his will, I'll go straight to

490
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: the museum. I'm gonna go to this thing though at

491
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: some point I don't know, in this next l A

492
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: trip or not. But um, it's right there near the

493
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Labraa tarpets. I think, oh yeah, so I want to

494
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: go check it out. There. Yeah, it's neat. It is neat.

495
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: But back to the design. These days, you're not gonna

496
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: need a tape measure and stuff like that. You're gonna

497
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: photoshop designs and you're gonna even get a three D

498
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: printer to maybe to your PROD type. That had to

499
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: have helped them tremendously because you know, with if you're

500
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: designing real life cars and you have a three D printer,

501
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: that's pretty handy, but with Hot Wheels like you can

502
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: print out pretty much exactly what it's gonna look like.

503
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: And once they have them the prototype done, they'll make them.

504
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: They'll make a mold out of it and then inject

505
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: it with molten metal under tremendous pressure. And that's why

506
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: it's called die cast. You create a die that you

507
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: cast all of the ensuing ones from. Yeah, and I

508
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: think they're made with less metal than they used to be. Um,

509
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: but they still have metal components, right. I haven't seen

510
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: a new one in a while. I haven't either, but

511
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive they do. And apparently they're still about

512
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: like a dollar. Yeah. I was on the Hot Wheels

513
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: collector site today and like they kept making reference to

514
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: about a dollar, so so just what's called the mainline

515
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: the ones that they make on mass exactly. UM. I'll

516
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: bet if you got your hands on that citation be

517
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: worth a few bucks. But they kept referring to the

518
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: mainline stuff. So as about a dollar, well, they just

519
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: kept making their manufacturing cheaper and cheaper, so they've maintained

520
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: that cost, I guess. Uh. So as far as collecting goes, uh.

521
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: The most valuable and that is not um this crazy

522
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: one made out of diamonds for the anniversary, which we'll

523
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: talk about in a minute, But the most valuable regular

524
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: hot wheel is the UH sixty eight beach Bomb, which

525
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: was a VW bus and hot pink that had UM

526
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: real surfboards sticking out of the back of it. Yeah. Originally,

527
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: UM they only released I think twenty five of them

528
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: like that. There are a couple of problems. It was

529
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: difficult to manufacture them with the surfboards sticking on the back,

530
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: even though it was more realistic. And it also um

531
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: was terrible on like a loop de loop track because

532
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: I guess the surfboards that either way I'm down there,

533
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: it would get stuck. So they only made just a

534
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: few of these things. The each Bomb that was the

535
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: highest selling, um the hot Wheels ever was a pink

536
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: one that made even fewer of those, because apparently a

537
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of boys were like, I'm not playing with some

538
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: pink van, even if it does have cool surfboards sticking

539
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: out the back. So the things sold for like I

540
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: think seventies something seventy five thousand dollars in two thousand,

541
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and it is since sold again in two eleven. I

542
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: saw in like l a magazine for like a hundred

543
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand. It's a lot of money for

544
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: a tiny little car. Yeah, and that's the highest one

545
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: ever apparently, Um by a long shot too. Yeah. Um,

546
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen others that were worth like ten

547
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: grand and stuff, Like I think one of those two

548
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: originals is like ten grands. Yeah, I guess like nineteen

549
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: seventy mongoose or cobra are worth about ten grand these days. Um,

550
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of them, just like with any collector's item, Um,

551
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: you'll see if there was just a few of them made,

552
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: obviously they're going to be worth a lot more. Um.

553
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: If there's something that where they adjusted the design, like

554
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: for example, the python was originally called the cheetah, and

555
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: then they found out that a real life executive with

556
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: real life lawyers at GM owned the name Cheetah because

557
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: apparently GM executive just owned names for cars that could

558
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: potentially be used like every an fast animal name, right exactly.

559
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: So they changed it to the the python. But there

560
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: they that was after they'd started manufacturing the cheetah. So

561
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: there's some out there that say cheetah uh stamped on

562
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: the bottom, and if you have one of those, it's

563
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: support ten grant. Yeah, it's funny to think about. It's

564
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: the same with Star Wars, like sometimes the mistake ones

565
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: are the ones that are super valuable because like there

566
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: was some recall, but like, oh, but you want that

567
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: one because the Boba Fett's rocket really shot out before

568
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: kids started choking on them right or on fire, and

569
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: that's the one you want. But like you said, it's

570
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: all about scarcity and supply to man, dude, this whole

571
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: thing has reminded me of um, a really great gallery

572
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: I put together about hilarious knockoff toys. Yeah. I go

573
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: to stuff you should Know dot com and look that up.

574
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. There's some really strange interpretations of beloved toys,

575
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: including Star Wars toys that people who make counterfeit toys

576
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: come up with to try to skirt trademark law maybe

577
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: or something or else. They just fully don't understand the

578
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: toy and what it's a lureus, so they just make

579
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: it in this weird interpretation. It's pretty hilarious stuff. Yeah,

580
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: it's a good one. We'll post that again. Um. And

581
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: then I did mention the diamonds studded one. I always

582
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: think these things are just ridiculous. But um, but like

583
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to take any like the diamond studded bras was worth

584
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, forgotten Bucks. I just always think it's

585
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of done. But they did make at anniversary in

586
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: edition in nineteen I'm sorry, in two thousand and eight

587
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: with little diamonds and bees for tail lights and uh

588
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: black diamonds for the tires and all that stuff. Eighteen

589
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: here at white gold body. But um, that's where a

590
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: hundred and forty cost a hundred and forty thou dollars

591
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: to put together. I'm sure it's gaudy. It's a gaudy

592
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: hot wheels, the cars cool. It looks like Mad Max's car.

593
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh you get is that a picture of it? I

594
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: don't think I saw that. Can you identify that car? Uh?

595
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: What is that? Looks familiar? It does look familiar to

596
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: sort of like a DeLorean, but I don't think it is.

597
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. No, man, that new Mad

598
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: Max looks good though. Are they remaking Mad Max? Well,

599
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: there's a new reboot I guess is what they call

600
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: it these days? Cool? Um? What's his face? That played

601
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: h Bain? Um? Tom? But it looks it's the same director,

602
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: Tom Hardy. Yeah, Tom Hardy. But it's the same director

603
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: from all the Mad Max series. So it's oh really yeah, yeah,

604
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and it just looks just the whole it's supposed to

605
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: be just like one long, intense chase battle. It sounds

606
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot like a Mad Max movie. You want. Have

607
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: you ever seen Vanishing Point? I think? So? What is that?

608
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: It was like? Uh, man, I can't remember the car,

609
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: but the car was basically the Star. It was one

610
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: long car chase from like I think, um, Colorado to California. Yeah,

611
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: I remember that. That's a good one from the seventies. Yeah,

612
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: two lane Blacktops. That's another. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Yeah,

613
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: that's good. When that one weirdly had James Taylor in it.

614
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: When he was young and like on drugs and cool.

615
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Were they apologizing to France? No, I don't know what

616
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: the deal was. Did you hear about that? So that

617
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: whole Charlie Hebdough um Solidarity March, the US sent like

618
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: I think the assistant be in charge of the s

619
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: d A or something like that. Um, so to apologize,

620
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: John Carey head um, James Taylor go to France to perform.

621
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: You've got a friend for the French government. Yeah, just

622
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: talk about I know. Isn't it send guns and roses

623
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: or something? At least well, not send guns and roses

624
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: from nineteen I had any guns and roses. Man. One

625
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: more thing about collecting. If you wanted to be the

626
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: coolest collector of hot wheels on the planet, you would

627
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: have to build a time machine and go back to

628
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: to my hometown of Toledo, Ohio, which is where the

629
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: first ever hot Wheels Convention Collector's Convention was held. I

630
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: really wish I would have gone to that because I

631
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: was there at the time. What your wash? I can't

632
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: believe we've sent James Tayler. I'm still just like I

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Speaker 1: can't focus on anything. Well, if you want to know

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Speaker 1: more about James Taylor, hot wheels, or just about anything

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Speaker 1: there is in the universe. You can type it into

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Speaker 1: since I said search parts time for listener mail, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call this um minimum wage argument, not argument proposal.

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Speaker 1: Listen to how Homelessness Works from quite a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: and you guys commented that part of the problem was

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Speaker 1: at low minimum wage. In comparison the cost of renting

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Speaker 1: a two bedroom apartment, you'd have to work something like

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Speaker 1: eighty seven per hours eighty seven hours per week to

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Speaker 1: afford it, with the implication we need to raise minimum wage.

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Speaker 1: After hearing this, a clear solution occurred to me. I

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Speaker 1: think disagreements on raising minimum wage a result the simple misunderstanding.

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Speaker 1: On the raised side, people believe this wage should be

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Speaker 1: set at a level that would allow someone to raise

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Speaker 1: a few children and live a modest but reasonably comfortable level,

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Speaker 1: or at least a safe level. On the don't raise

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Speaker 1: it side, people believe minimum wage is just a starting

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Speaker 1: point for working, uh, like for teenagers at their summer

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Speaker 1: job or after school. This I believes workers should uh

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Speaker 1: we're never intended two and should not expect to be

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Speaker 1: able to support a family that pays minimum wage. So

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Speaker 1: here's my solution. Since we're a democracy here, let's just

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Speaker 1: decide what it is supposed to accomplish and then set

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Speaker 1: it at the appropriate level to do that. If we

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Speaker 1: decide as a nation that someone should be able to

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Speaker 1: raise a family in a two betroom apartment while earning

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Speaker 1: a wage minimum wage, let's just figure out but that

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Speaker 1: would cost and set the wage there. Figure in rent, clothing, food, utilities, transportation, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's twenty seven grand per year, then set

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Speaker 1: it at that rate. The other hand, if we as

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Speaker 1: a nation decide that minimum wage is just a starting

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Speaker 1: point and not meant to support a family. It's intended

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Speaker 1: for people with no work history or experience and low

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Speaker 1: to no marketable skills, and we need to set minimum

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Speaker 1: wage at a relatively low level and let the market.

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Speaker 1: The free market will ultimately determine the wage for entry

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Speaker 1: level workers, and workers historically have been able to increase

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Speaker 1: compensation by gaining skills and good work history. With the settled,

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Speaker 1: any argument about setting minimum wage at a living wage

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Speaker 1: would be mistaken because we all just decided that people

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Speaker 1: are not meant to live on minimum wage and certainly

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Speaker 1: not meant to support a family that is from Joe

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Speaker 1: Prohaska in Reno, Nevada, and uh interesting. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing the rebuttal emails. I love that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great proposal. I mean so, I think that

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Speaker 1: is what it's based on. But as far as I know,

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Speaker 1: the cost of living calculations are really out of date

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Speaker 1: and take a lot of stuff into account that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really apply any longer. Plus, regardless of what you think

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Speaker 1: it should or should not be, the fact is adults

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Speaker 1: with two kids are still going to be working these jobs.

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Speaker 1: It's not just going to be teenagers looking to advance.

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Speaker 1: But it would be nice to put that issue to bed,

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Speaker 1: to stay like this is what we're trying to achieve,

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Speaker 1: or this is not what we're trying to achieve, at

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Speaker 1: the very least, to get everybody talking. Yeah, because should

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Speaker 1: some teenager at this first job make like fourteen bucks

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Speaker 1: an hour? I don't know. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: sending the right message either. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll leave it up to you guys, our dear listeners.

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Speaker 1: When I started working, it was like three bucks an hour.

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Speaker 1: Or something. It was ridiculously low. That is ridiculously low.

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Speaker 1: If you want to let us know how you feel

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Speaker 1: about Joe's proposal, was it Joe? I believe it was Joe.

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Speaker 1: You know Joe? Uh. You can tweet to us at

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