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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to HOOPSNI. You're at the volume havy Thursday. Everybody,
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Speaker 2: great week.
Speaker 3: As I said after Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, there's.
Speaker 2: Some sort of weird voodoo magic going on that makes
Speaker 2: it so that you have to beat the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 2: for like five times in a seven game series, and
Speaker 2: once again in classic fashion, down against the Ropes several
Speaker 2: different times down the stretch, several different runs from the
Speaker 2: Thunder to build more additional margin, and then impossible shot
Speaker 2: after impossible shot from the Pacers down the stretch. Aaron
Speaker 2: Nismith coming flying out of that left corner, rising and
Speaker 2: firing like it's Game one against the Knicks all over again.
Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhard with the seventeen dribble step back against Shay Gilgas,
Speaker 2: Alexander with a hand right in his face to hit
Speaker 2: the three. And then Tyrese Halliburden with clock winding down
Speaker 2: against Kison Walla is a quick little stop and pop
Speaker 2: jumper a little bit outside of the right elbow, and
Speaker 2: the Pacers are up one zero in the NBA Finals
Speaker 2: and very much in position to give themselves a chance
Speaker 2: to win this series. Just absolutely unbelievable stuff. All my notes,
Speaker 2: Crumple them up, throw them in the trash. As far
Speaker 2: as the narrative of this game goes, We're going to
Speaker 2: get into as much of the basketball as we can
Speaker 2: and talk about the different dynamics at play in the
Speaker 2: series and try to interpret as much of this as
Speaker 2: we can into what's repeatable and what is not. But
Speaker 2: I am in complete shock, as I can imagine just
Speaker 2: about anybody outside of the Pacers fans who have been
Speaker 2: believing in this team all season long. I'm in shock,
Speaker 2: and I barely know where to start with this thing.
Speaker 2: I will say before we get started, I cannot say
Speaker 2: enough how much this Pacers team has just injected an
Speaker 2: enormous amount of entertainment into this NBA Playoffs. The NBA
Speaker 2: Playoffs is just a lot of blowouts over the years
Speaker 2: in recent years, kind of lacking some of that high
Speaker 2: level entertainment in the later rounds. And this Pacers team
Speaker 2: and their unwillingness to give up, and the way that
Speaker 2: they play and the way that they put themselves in
Speaker 2: position two steel games, with their incredible attention to detail
Speaker 2: and sharpness and relentless motor and effort, have just literally
Speaker 2: injected the enthusiasm and honestly just what I think is
Speaker 2: a very beautiful brand of basketball for all of us
Speaker 2: to watch and enjoy, for young basketball players to learn
Speaker 2: from to improve their own games, for basketball teams and
Speaker 2: basketball coaches to improve.
Speaker 3: The way they play.
Speaker 2: I can't say enough about what the Pacers have done
Speaker 2: in this playoff run for my view of the game,
Speaker 2: I think for everybody's learning of the game, and obviously
Speaker 2: just making for a very entertaining basketball product. You guys
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Speaker 2: the season. We are not doing a mail bag at
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Speaker 2: watch the film from that insane fourth quarter and go
Speaker 2: over how the Pacers stole this game. I'm looking forward
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Speaker 2: talk some basketball. So this game really was a story
Speaker 2: of two in a lot of ways. I talked about
Speaker 2: how in the series preview that there is like an
Speaker 2: opening test with Oklahoma City these fail points, if you
Speaker 2: guys remember, I talked about these potential failure points for
Speaker 2: Indiana in the series where if they just struggled to
Speaker 2: get the ball to where it needed to be, that
Speaker 2: they were dead on arrival. And those we talked about specifics.
Speaker 2: We talked about ball pressure in the back court. We
Speaker 2: talked about off ball denials. We talked about high post
Speaker 2: entries and low post entries. We talked about double teams
Speaker 2: and posts and ISOs and drives. We talked about like
Speaker 2: when they get the ball into the middle of the floor,
Speaker 2: whether it's through a drive or a roll or a post,
Speaker 2: the ability for them to pass out of the traffic
Speaker 2: in those spots on the floor. And they failed that test.
Speaker 2: Miserably in the first half, Like as bad as you
Speaker 2: will ever see, especially relative to the way that this
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers team typically takes care of the basketball. Turnovers
Speaker 2: bringing the ball up the floor, dudes getting poked away
Speaker 2: from behind as they're not paying attention to what's happening
Speaker 2: behind them, turnovers on post entries, turnovers on pocket passes
Speaker 2: as they're missing guys tagging from the weak side.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 2: The big one that they were dealing with in that
Speaker 2: first half was posting ISOs when guys turned their back,
Speaker 2: just like as soon as someone turned their back, the
Speaker 2: dude is just swooping in from behind and swiping the
Speaker 2: ball away in.
Speaker 3: The half court.
Speaker 2: Nineteen turnovers in the first half a truly remarkable performance
Speaker 2: defensively from the Thunder. Honestly, I thought it was a
Speaker 2: showcase of everything that makes them so great. Again, Like,
Speaker 2: for those of you haven't very Thunder fans, maybe if
Speaker 2: you haven't watched as much Pacers, Like, that's a team
Speaker 2: that doesn't turn the ball over a lot. That's a
Speaker 2: team that typically handles that sort of aggression and pressure
Speaker 2: extremely well, and they didn't in that first half. And
Speaker 2: it's because of the job that lou Dort can do
Speaker 2: on Tyrese Haliburton to make him uncomfortable. It's because of
Speaker 2: the job that those guys do, swarming and swiping at
Speaker 2: the basketball, lou Dort, his activity on the back line.
Speaker 2: Even in this game, Caruso on the back line, everyone
Speaker 2: flying around and making plays, even Shay getting in on
Speaker 2: the turnover forcing. Now, to Indiana's credit, their transition defense
Speaker 2: in that catastrophe in the first half kept them in
Speaker 2: the game. We've talked so much over the course of
Speaker 2: the last few weeks about low hanging fruit. These are
Speaker 2: things that are available in every single basketball game to
Speaker 2: every single team. Now, you need a certain amount of
Speaker 2: elite shot making to make it to your ultimate goal
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Like, that's the fourth time in this
Speaker 2: playoff run that Tyres Haliburton has hit a tough shot
Speaker 2: in a one on one situation to either win a
Speaker 2: game or to put his team in position to win
Speaker 2: a game in the final of seconds of the as
Speaker 2: the clock is expiring. Obviously, the Aaron Nesmith shot, the
Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhard shot, there were a lot of really tough
Speaker 2: shots that were mixed in there, and obviously you're not
Speaker 2: just gonna win a game because you're a sharp, disciplined
Speaker 2: basketball team, you've got to have a certain amount of
Speaker 2: individual greatness to carry you over the top, especially when
Speaker 2: you're staring down shake Gil just Alexander on the other end, who,
Speaker 2: outside of his last couple possessions, I thought, had a
Speaker 2: really good game. And at a certain point, in order
Speaker 2: to put yourself in position to weather that storm, to
Speaker 2: live through some turnovers, to live through some sloppiness, you
Speaker 2: got to be super sharp in other areas of the game.
Speaker 2: And they consistently got back, protected the rim and stopped
Speaker 2: the ball, got contests on three point shooters, and so
Speaker 2: despite allowing or despite turning the ball over nineteen times
Speaker 2: in the first half, they allowed just nine points off
Speaker 2: of those turnovers. And then, as we say, when you're
Speaker 2: going to apply that type of pressure, if you're going
Speaker 2: to deny, if you're going to double, if you're going
Speaker 2: to tag rollers and offer a ton of nail help
Speaker 2: and double team post ups and do all of that stuff,
Speaker 2: the flip side is guys are open, and if you
Speaker 2: can get the ball through the defense to those guys
Speaker 2: they're still open. They are a good closeout team. They're
Speaker 2: gonna make it more difficult than it appears on the
Speaker 2: surface compared to some other opponents out there. But you
Speaker 2: can't act. They don't actually have six players on the court.
Speaker 2: They just feel like that sometimes if you can take
Speaker 2: care of the basketball and you can pass it through
Speaker 2: their defense, you can get open shots against Oklahoma City's
Speaker 2: base scheme. And in the second half just six turnovers total,
Speaker 2: three in the third quarter, three in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and just two points off of turnovers as a result.
Speaker 2: Mixed in obviously with the tough shot making that, we
Speaker 2: saw a lot of pretty solid either like wide open
Speaker 2: catch and shoot threes for guys like Obie Toppin or
Speaker 2: you know, moderately contested catch and shoot threes that are
Speaker 2: good looks for guys like Aaron Nesmith, and a lot
Speaker 2: of pretty high quality attempts right around the rim.
Speaker 3: And they scored.
Speaker 2: Sixty six points in the second half and all night long,
Speaker 2: their defense held up pretty well.
Speaker 3: Wasn't perfect.
Speaker 2: They ran a lot of traditional coverages, and at various
Speaker 2: points against the traditional coverages, they struggled. Shake gel just Alexander,
Speaker 2: to his credit, a lot of stars in NBA history
Speaker 2: struggle in the NBA Finals. They get a little passive
Speaker 2: or they at tentative or they you know, kind of
Speaker 2: get just they just look kind of shook from the moment.
Speaker 2: I mean, you saw it happen to several paces. You
Speaker 2: saw it to happen to damn near the entire Pacers
Speaker 2: bench to start this game. Although shout out to Obi
Speaker 2: Top and he had about as nightmare start to this
Speaker 2: game as you could possibly have, fumbling the ball and
Speaker 2: throwing it around all over the place. But he hit
Speaker 2: a couple threes and he loosened up and he was
Speaker 2: awesome from that point forward and hit so many big
Speaker 2: shots for the Pacers in this game.
Speaker 3: But once.
Speaker 2: At the start of the game, Shake Gildess Alexander came
Speaker 2: out and he was like, screw being passive, screw easing
Speaker 2: my way into this game. I'm shooting the basketball. And
Speaker 2: he had eleven shot attempts in the first quarter. I
Speaker 2: think he had like nineteen or twenty in the first half.
Speaker 2: And he essentially accelerated the process with which he became comfortable,
Speaker 2: which actually thought was smart, especially as a scoring guard.
Speaker 2: Like if you're a scoring guard, and again, the formula
Speaker 2: for this team is elite defense and shay shot making
Speaker 2: on a lot of nights, especially when things bogged down
Speaker 2: the way they did, and he just got himself into
Speaker 2: a pretty good rhythm. I thought he passed out of
Speaker 2: an ISO to JB late that he probably didn't need to.
Speaker 2: It kind of looked like he was just hesitant to
Speaker 2: go ISO again and then overcooked his last little pull
Speaker 2: up jump shot long off the back end of the rim.
Speaker 2: But overall through the game, I mean like tough shot making.
Speaker 2: Give Shaye get a decent look, and you know you
Speaker 2: have Andrew Nemhard hit a crazy seventeen dribble step back
Speaker 2: three right in his face, Like there's a certain amount
Speaker 2: of variance that goes into that sort of thing. And
Speaker 2: I thought Shaye played a pretty damn good game under
Speaker 2: the circumstances with the game, With the way that the
Speaker 2: game went, the Pacers came out in a high drop
Speaker 2: coverage with Turner. I've talked about this before, the high
Speaker 2: drop coverage with Indiana with respect that Shae has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with taking away the pull up jump shot
Speaker 2: off off of the three point line if he comes
Speaker 2: off the screen clean. It's all about trying to stop
Speaker 2: Shaye from turning the corner with the runway and shake
Speaker 2: cooked that coverage right off the bat and was getting
Speaker 2: right around Turner and drawn fowls and getting all the
Speaker 2: way to the rim. That's why we saw so many
Speaker 2: Shaye layups in the first part of the game. Then
Speaker 2: the Pacers adjusted and they went from that high drop
Speaker 2: to more of a low drop where Turner was meeting
Speaker 2: him far back, and that was when Shaye really started
Speaker 2: to get going with his mid range shot making.
Speaker 3: And that was kind of how all of that.
Speaker 2: Initial work early in the game that he did to
Speaker 2: get his feel and to get his aggression really started
Speaker 2: to pay off. And like out, like Shay was awesome
Speaker 2: in this game, lou Dort was awesome in this game.
Speaker 3: Lou Dirt. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: He shot so poorly overall in this postseason run, but
Speaker 2: against the Pacers in the regular season he killed them.
Speaker 2: And he went right back to killing them tonight. Hit
Speaker 2: five threes and a lot of those like kind of
Speaker 2: semi tough contested threes that you need to knock down
Speaker 2: in the postseason. But outside of Shaye and lou Dort,
Speaker 2: they generally did a pretty good job. I think there
Speaker 2: are some things they need to clean up. We saw
Speaker 2: a lot of we saw a lot of the attacking
Speaker 2: of Tyrese Haliburton and Obi Toppin and a little bit
Speaker 2: of Siakam too and in guard guard screens out above
Speaker 2: the break and Shae had some success like quickly attacking
Speaker 2: those guys when they were hedging and splitting action and
Speaker 2: drawing fouls, and he did a lot of damage up there.
Speaker 2: But for the most part in the aggregate, they prevented
Speaker 2: the explosive Oklahoma City quarter. How did they prevent the
Speaker 2: explosive Oklahoma City corner quarter by keeping them out of
Speaker 2: transition again, Guys, this is a team that in this
Speaker 2: postseason run is averaging like twenty three to twenty something
Speaker 2: crazy in points off of turnovers and pulling it up
Speaker 2: real quick right now. They are carrying their offense for
Speaker 2: extended stretches in this postseason literally by just forcing turnovers
Speaker 2: and getting out in transition. Twenty three point eight is
Speaker 2: their postseason average in points off of turnovers held them
Speaker 2: to just eleven tonight. Oklahoma City's offense is capable of
Speaker 2: being very good, but they don't have the depth of
Speaker 2: elite shot making off the ball and just overall offensive
Speaker 2: feel to be a super explosive slow down offense. If
Speaker 2: you can keep them out of transition by preventing those
Speaker 2: easy transition points by getting back, stopping the ball getting
Speaker 2: to the rim, forcing them to knock down jump shots,
Speaker 2: you can keep them from having the explosive quarter. And
Speaker 2: that's what Indiana did. Indiana had a thirty five point quarter.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City didn't have a thirty point quarter in this game.
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the other little adjustments that
Speaker 2: I saw. Oklahoma City they give up a lot of
Speaker 2: open threes with their swarming defense, and it is a
Speaker 2: trade off. Like again, in the first half, they forced
Speaker 2: a bunch of turnovers and it generally paid off. Right
Speaker 2: didn't get out and transition as much as they could have,
Speaker 2: but overall they had a good half. In the second half,
Speaker 2: Indiana was able to successfully get the ball out and
Speaker 2: they knocked down shots. They could try to loosen that
Speaker 2: up a little bit, essentially, just being a little bit
Speaker 2: more picky. I liked when they dove at the basketball,
Speaker 2: when some of the lesser ball handlers turned their head.
Speaker 2: If Siakam turns his head away from you go for it.
Speaker 2: Pobie Topping turns his head away from you, go for it.
Speaker 2: If Miles turner turns his head away from you, go
Speaker 2: for it. But if he's looking at you, or if
Speaker 2: it's anybody that can handle the ball pretty well, be
Speaker 2: a little bit more hesitant to help because this is
Speaker 2: a Pacers team that will get the ball out. Almost
Speaker 2: half of their shot attempts tonight were pretty clean. There
Speaker 2: were three point shots and they got a lot of
Speaker 2: pretty clean looks as part of that process. Oklahoma City also,
Speaker 2: I thought, did a decent amount of damage on the
Speaker 2: offensive glass in the first half. Indiana flipped that dynamic
Speaker 2: of the second half. You got started to see some
Speaker 2: of their size on the interior do some more damage.
Speaker 2: That's an area where Oklahoma City can do better. We
Speaker 2: saw them do better in the first half of this
Speaker 2: particular game. Just looking through my notes really quick here,
Speaker 2: but bear with me. It was an absolute disaster of
Speaker 2: a planning night for the show with me putting together
Speaker 2: the show based on Oklahoma City controlling the I think
Speaker 2: it was their first lead on the tyrese Alivert shot
Speaker 2: that he made. It just an absolutely unbelievable game. Overall,
Speaker 2: Indiana did have success attacking smalls. You saw some of
Speaker 2: the specific differences, like it when they're doing that three
Speaker 2: quarter front. We saw Rick Carlisle talking about some of
Speaker 2: those like tight window bounce passes aren't there. It's almost
Speaker 2: better for them to push the post a little bit
Speaker 2: further out and then look to attack with an aggressive
Speaker 2: move like spinning off of that guy or something along
Speaker 2: those lines. We also did see a good amount of
Speaker 2: that damage being done on the offensive glass. It's an
Speaker 2: alternative you had to switch instead of trying to cram
Speaker 2: in some crazy entry pass. Put something up from the perimeter,
Speaker 2: a decent you know, swing the ball around, run a
Speaker 2: quick ghot screen, do something to get you a decent
Speaker 2: perimeter jump shot look, and if you shoot it high
Speaker 2: and soft enough, you're gonna give your big guy a
Speaker 2: pretty good chance to win that battle on the flip side.
Speaker 2: I think that's something that we saw in that second half.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable stuff.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: I think Indiana could. I think Indiana could lighten up
Speaker 2: a little bit on some of their traditional coverages. We
Speaker 2: saw a lot of them giving up pretty easy stuff
Speaker 2: like the ball screen coverages with Turner weren't working against Shaye,
Speaker 2: and either the high drop or the low dropped Thomas
Speaker 2: Bryant gave up an easy layup to Isaiah Hartenstein on
Speaker 2: a play where he was opening up his stance for
Speaker 2: Siakam to cut through because it should have been a switch.
Speaker 2: It wasn't, so then Hardenstein which just went right to
Speaker 2: the basket for a layup. We saw Mark Dagnaud after
Speaker 2: a timeout after Obi Toping hit a three to cut
Speaker 2: the lead to eight. They just had Shay set a
Speaker 2: backscreen for kese On Wallace on tyrese. Haliburton Pacers didn't
Speaker 2: want to switch it them hard was hugged up to
Speaker 2: Shae easy layup for kease On Wallace cutting along that backside.
Speaker 2: Even in that second half down the stretch, we saw
Speaker 2: them get a lot of good looks out of those hedges, right.
Speaker 2: I thought they looked a little bit better when they
Speaker 2: were just super aggressive on those switches, those hedges like
Speaker 2: actually like almost like a just attacking him and forcing
Speaker 2: him to get rid of the basketball. At least in
Speaker 2: those late game situations where they're packing the pain, they
Speaker 2: were able to force some catch and shoot jumpers from
Speaker 2: some of their lesser shooters down the stretch by doing that,
Speaker 2: I just think they need to get away from passive
Speaker 2: traditional coverages. These big guys can't contain the ball well enough.
Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant can't, Miles Turner can't. They're giving up a
Speaker 2: little bit too much. Drible penetration there. I've liked it
Speaker 2: against Jalen Williams. We saw Miles Turner against Jalen Williams
Speaker 2: and the drop coverage be able to get some stops
Speaker 2: in at the rim and in the short range. But
Speaker 2: specifically with Shay, I would either be super aggressive or
Speaker 2: I would just switch and force him to ISO and
Speaker 2: then be aggressive in your help pinching down off of
Speaker 2: him because again, in those traditional coverages that were given
Speaker 2: up too many of those openings.
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Speaker 2: Man I know that was all over the place, but
Speaker 2: it was that kind of game. I'm gonna have Jackson Kamania.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit more about the game,
Speaker 2: and then we will get into some of that All
Speaker 2: Star topic before we head over to playback.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Let's do it first. I think I'm gonna throw at you.
Speaker 4: And we got a super chat question from Cole. Are
Speaker 4: people undervaluing Rick Carlyle's coaching experience compared to Mark Dagnault's.
Speaker 3: So I didn't. This is tricky.
Speaker 2: I think the credit that goes to Carlile has more
Speaker 2: to do with foundational stuff, Like I didn't think it was.
Speaker 2: I didn't think Rick Carlisle went out there and just
Speaker 2: coached this like super magnificent Exit is a O's game
Speaker 2: that diced up the thunder. I didn't think that was
Speaker 2: what happened here. I think that I think that the
Speaker 2: credit goes to Rick Carlile in the work that he's done.
Speaker 3: Like, guys, the.
Speaker 2: Team's basketball character flows from the top down. It's what
Speaker 2: kind of guys? What kind of dudes is your front
Speaker 2: office going after? Is he just strictly going after talent
Speaker 2: or is he going after guys that fit the culture
Speaker 2: of what you're trying to build.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Obviously, there's a certain skill set you need as well,
Speaker 2: but there's a certain like are you are you getting
Speaker 2: competitive ass kickers that like to play hard and that
Speaker 2: want to be the best basketball player that they could
Speaker 2: possibly be, down to the head coach, down to the
Speaker 2: star of your team, down to the co star of
Speaker 2: your team, down to the types of dudes that you
Speaker 2: have in that locker room. But Rick Carlile, from day
Speaker 2: one of this season and dating back multiple years, has
Speaker 2: just instilled in these guys this level of intensity, this
Speaker 2: level of relentlessness, attention to detail.
Speaker 3: You know how crazy it is.
Speaker 2: Off of nineteen turnovers only give up nine points in
Speaker 2: transition to the Oklahoma City Thunder. You know how sharp
Speaker 2: you have to be, You know how dedicated you have
Speaker 2: to be. Watching that juxtaposed with what we saw from
Speaker 2: the Knicks in Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals,
Speaker 2: it was absolutely amazing. But like I didn't think again,
Speaker 2: as far as Dagnall goes like, we did see a
Speaker 2: little bit of that, like bogging down ISO offense at
Speaker 2: the top of the key, but I didn't think they
Speaker 2: got bad looks. They got some clean catch and shoot looks. Again,
Speaker 2: I thought Shay shouldn't have passed the ball to jadaub
Speaker 2: on the second to last ISO. You're asking a twenty
Speaker 2: three year old to bail you out there. You're the dude,
Speaker 2: go go, go, get a bucket and then he overcooked
Speaker 2: a jumper that if he makes it, they win, right, So, like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to overreact. I want to just give
Speaker 2: credit to Carlisle for the basketball character that he's instilled
Speaker 2: in this team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And normally I don't care about stuff
Speaker 4: like Shamstronia reporting before the game.
Speaker 3: Here's how here's my take on it.
Speaker 4: But he did have a stand up about team building
Speaker 4: and about how this might be a sign for teams
Speaker 4: with considering both of the teams going after some of
Speaker 4: these ultra competitive, multiple college year guys as opposed to
Speaker 4: just hunting for a star every time in the draft,
Speaker 4: and that type of thing really feels relevant when you're
Speaker 4: seeing guys like Andrew dem Hard be so successful in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. You're seeing guys like Lou Dort who not
Speaker 4: even he wasn't even drafted, but like guys who are
Speaker 4: just have this highly super high motor super highly competitive
Speaker 4: are being are a lot more valuable for teams like this,
Speaker 4: especially for teams with championship aspirations, than taking your dart
Speaker 4: throw at the hopeful star pick.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about this all the time, like
Speaker 2: playing winning basketball sucks. It's hard, man Like, it's hard
Speaker 2: in the normal context of like you guys going to
Speaker 2: play pickup, like when we go play pickup. Obviously, if
Speaker 2: you want to win more pickup games, you gotta do
Speaker 2: all the shit that's hard, right. You gotta run back
Speaker 2: and transition defense, you gotta palk through screens, you gotta
Speaker 2: put your body on the line for rebound, you got
Speaker 2: to run the floor on offense, got to do all
Speaker 2: those sorts of things. Now add the additional layer of
Speaker 2: advanced NBA schematics and all the different game plan stuff
Speaker 2: you got to remember, and all the specific stuff within
Speaker 2: different coverages that they go to utilize, and it's just
Speaker 2: extremely difficult. It's extremely difficult. And so you need a
Speaker 2: certain type of personality, a certain type of guy in
Speaker 2: that locker room that's willing to put in the work,
Speaker 2: and it's a little bit harder to find than you think. Again,
Speaker 2: there's I think that there is a competitive nature trait
Speaker 2: that is vastly underrated in the NBA. And it's just like,
Speaker 2: how much do your dudes hate to lose? Because if
Speaker 2: they really hate to lose, then they will listen to
Speaker 2: their coach when their coach is presenting to them a
Speaker 2: plan with which to avoid that loss. And I just think, man,
Speaker 2: I know you heard me at the top of the show.
Speaker 2: I just can't say enough about this Pacers team and
Speaker 2: how special they are just to the game of basketball
Speaker 2: for the example that they represent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they I can't remember a team ever playing like
Speaker 4: this ever, Like it's it's amazing how relentless they are
Speaker 4: on both ends. They're like the seven second Sons offensively,
Speaker 4: but they're kind of dynamic defensively at this point. They
Speaker 4: like for when Pascal got healthy. At that point in
Speaker 4: the regular season, they had the second best record in
Speaker 4: the NBA, and their defense has been quite good since then.
Speaker 4: It's hard to I can't think of teams that were
Speaker 4: this sort of dynamic and speed oriented offensively that were
Speaker 4: able to translate that to the defensive end.
Speaker 2: Also, their relentlessness in rotation, like even like concession shots
Speaker 2: like oh okay, see bang bang bang broke you down
Speaker 2: got a wide open three, they're still throwing a close out.
Speaker 2: It's just like a token close out. Like, let's not
Speaker 2: let this dude get super comfortable. Let's make him realize
Speaker 2: he's got to shoot it right now. Like there's just
Speaker 2: it's so crazy, man. And then like, honestly too, I
Speaker 2: want to hand it to Halliburton too. Like Haliburton was
Speaker 2: having one of those games too, where he was getting
Speaker 2: a couple of looks here and there. Occasionally you do
Speaker 2: that classic thing where he drags out the ball screen
Speaker 2: and then pump fakes and the dude just goes flying by.
Speaker 2: But like he wasn't exactly getting super high quality looks,
Speaker 2: but he just stayed invested and then made a couple
Speaker 2: plays late when he needed to. It's this team, man,
Speaker 2: and there's the tough shot making voodoo is legitimately crazy
Speaker 2: because it's crazy. It's like they are at the end
Speaker 2: of these games. Andrew Nemhard hit like legitimately a Kyrie
Speaker 2: Irving dribble combination.
Speaker 4: Well, he was dribbling in the air out of the
Speaker 4: basketball three consecutive possessions. Yeah, and then he hits the
Speaker 4: one of the most insane threes you could possibly hit
Speaker 4: in that moment. Oh my god, he's missed three before
Speaker 4: that rattles in just a laser that rattles in, and
Speaker 4: Haliburton having the to your point, having the confidence in
Speaker 4: the balls to take that last shot after not having
Speaker 4: a particularly effective scoring game.
Speaker 3: It's one thing to have to.
Speaker 4: Take that shot if you're a score first player, even
Speaker 4: if you're having a bad game or if you're having
Speaker 4: a great game. He is a pass first player who
Speaker 4: was not having a good scoring and said, no problem,
Speaker 4: give me the give me the fucking ball.
Speaker 2: He got like, and he shot that with conviction too,
Speaker 2: Like he stopped and popped, and he put all his
Speaker 2: legs into it, and he shot it high and he
Speaker 2: shot it soft and it rattled in. Is unbelievable stuff.
Speaker 2: Before we go over to the all star stuff, you
Speaker 2: texted me about.
Speaker 3: Halfway through the third quarter, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna I'm gonna read your exact text, okay,
Speaker 2: And then what I want you to do is just
Speaker 2: kind of explain if you still feel this way overall. Okay, Yes,
Speaker 2: he said, I feel like the Pacers are really in
Speaker 2: this series. Surprisingly, this dort shooting performance is giving me
Speaker 2: Celtics Game one and twenty twenty two vibes dirt going
Speaker 2: off and the Pacers can't stop turning the ball over
Speaker 2: and there's still only down ten. I don't know, it
Speaker 2: feels like they're in it to me.
Speaker 3: So do you do you? Like you straight up think
Speaker 3: the Pacers can win the series. I don't.
Speaker 4: Well, I still really wasn't kind of wasn't expecting them
Speaker 4: to win this game. I was saying that more of like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're in the series, not even they're gonna win tonight.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, they're more especially for game one.
Speaker 4: I kind of thought Game one might be a blow
Speaker 4: out the other way or like in okay, so he
Speaker 4: might win by a lot. Yeah, And it looked like
Speaker 4: that for a little while. It was teetering on the
Speaker 4: edge of a potential blowout. And I don't know, I
Speaker 4: think I am still discounting the devil magic of the
Speaker 4: Pacers when I also texted you when Miles Turner missed
Speaker 4: that wide open three and Halle missed a step back three,
Speaker 4: and either of those threes I think would have tied
Speaker 4: the game at that point or maybe cut it to
Speaker 4: one possession with like three four minutes laught something like that,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, that was our moment.
Speaker 3: That was it felt like their moment. It's like, dang,
Speaker 3: they were making the comeback.
Speaker 4: Had two very good looks to really get over that
Speaker 4: sort of mental hurdle of tying the game or maybe
Speaker 4: even taking the lead by one, and they missed them both,
Speaker 4: and I was like, ah, there it is gone to
Speaker 4: game two. Here am I the dumb one? I haven't
Speaker 4: been been. I've also been discounting the Pacers this whole time.
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable how they keep doing this. I do feel
Speaker 4: like I mean, obviously they won Game one on the road.
Speaker 3: They're in the series.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I would expect, you know, a twenty point thunder
Speaker 4: win game two.
Speaker 2: But how can we say that they have a chance
Speaker 2: to win this sea I'm gonna put it like this simple.
Speaker 2: I think it was Zach Low that said, like, h like,
Speaker 2: anybody who's picking anything other than Oklahoma City in five
Speaker 2: or six is expecting something really weird to happen. For
Speaker 2: the record, I agree with that. So I'm not about here.
Speaker 2: I'm not here saying Zach is wrong. Here's what I'm
Speaker 2: thinking right this second, though, What do you mean something
Speaker 2: something weird is gonna happen. This entire postseason for the
Speaker 2: Pacers has been weird, Like everything about.
Speaker 3: It is weird.
Speaker 4: Like it's just what you got the weird game this
Speaker 4: you just did it wed thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. It's like it's like here you go. It's
Speaker 3: it just got weird. It just got weird. It just
Speaker 3: got weird. Yeah, like I thought it was for me.
Speaker 2: It was the Turner three when Turner had that wide
Speaker 2: open pick and pop three late that he missed and uh,
Speaker 2: he had hit two in a row before that, but
Speaker 2: like he earlier in the second half, but he missed
Speaker 2: that pick and pop three and along off the back
Speaker 2: of the rim, and they didn't get the offensive rebound,
Speaker 2: and I was like, up there it goes and they
Speaker 2: but they just kept going. They just they The never
Speaker 2: stop thing is crazy. Highly underrated play in that sequence
Speaker 2: was the Pascal Siakam offensive remount put.
Speaker 4: Back off of unbelievable play.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable play.
Speaker 2: They did a lot of damage on the offensive glass
Speaker 2: along the baseline from their bigs down the stretch of
Speaker 2: this game. I did think that was fascinating. Okay, see
Speaker 2: really controlled things in that department early and then and
Speaker 2: then the dynamic flip. Any other thoughts on the game
Speaker 2: before we move over.
Speaker 4: I don't even know it's process. No, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: just it's just unbelievable. I'm just so excited for this
Speaker 4: series now. I was excited for the series before, but
Speaker 4: now it feels like we're in for a real treat.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a little worried about the excitement level across
Speaker 4: the board if there was an okay.
Speaker 3: See blowout, and now it feels like we're all locked in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the series.
Speaker 2: I thought the game was immediately fun to watch, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't worried about guys like us or the people
Speaker 2: that watch this show particularly like enjoying enjoying watching the series,
Speaker 2: but I was in I was concerned about whether or
Speaker 2: not it could be competitive enough to be interesting to
Speaker 2: the masses and the pacers once again. Like that, That's
Speaker 2: what I meant off the top, Like the job they've done,
Speaker 2: like straight up injecting casual joy and intensity and beauty
Speaker 2: into this playoff.
Speaker 3: Run is just crazy. Man.
Speaker 2: But the pace we're gonna head over to play back
Speaker 2: in about ten minutes, I wanted to really quickly. Jackson
Speaker 2: and I were going to have a quick little debate
Speaker 2: about this team USA versus Team World. Adam Silver audible here.
Speaker 2: So Adam Silver says that they're going to structure the
Speaker 2: All Star Game as USA versus the World next year.
Speaker 2: This has been the latest and a long line of
Speaker 2: attempts for Adam Silver to try to make these guys compete.
Speaker 2: It's literally all he's trying to do, get them, give
Speaker 2: them a reason to compete, and they've been unsuccessful to
Speaker 2: this point. I'm skeptical as to whether or not this
Speaker 2: will work. I am intrigued by the matchup, though, so
Speaker 2: obviously it gets tricky. There's some realities to how this
Speaker 2: could even work. But I want to start by just
Speaker 2: looking at the starting fives and just putting it together
Speaker 2: from there and kind of working around so we can all.
Speaker 2: I would argue that the world top five is really obvious,
Speaker 2: and that is just Luka, Jokic, Chake Eu, just Alexander
Speaker 2: Jannis and Wimby.
Speaker 4: I agree wholehearted.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody else who has a case
Speaker 2: to get into that group. Who is the USA five?
Speaker 4: I gotta assume they run back some version of the
Speaker 4: Olympic five, which is Steph Booker Lebron Kadie and either
Speaker 4: Bam or Anthony Davis, whoever is healthiest, I would assume,
Speaker 4: But that's gotta be the first four, even like I
Speaker 4: don't have no I do not care a single second
Speaker 4: about how old Lebron James is, Like, you have to
Speaker 4: run that group out right.
Speaker 2: I The tricky thing there is I wonder if there's
Speaker 2: some of those guys are gonna get bumped because of
Speaker 2: just regular season performance, Like is Anthony Edward's gonna end
Speaker 2: up right cramming his way into that list something like that.
Speaker 2: At least they have some practice playing without Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4: And is maybe the answer ever Devin Booker.
Speaker 2: Anyways, But yeah, I this is where it gets tricky.
Speaker 2: The entire premise doesn't make a ton of sense because
Speaker 2: in terms of debating these two teams competing, because the
Speaker 2: entire idea is that these guys aren't competing. But like
Speaker 2: there's an undeniable, like the Americans can run the floor
Speaker 2: a little bit better. I would argue that it gets
Speaker 2: a little tricky when they get stuck in the half court. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Luka Nikola Jokic, shake yell, just Alexander that's the three
Speaker 2: most surgical offensive players in the NBA at this point.
Speaker 2: I will say this, though, I think splitting it up
Speaker 2: and putting Steph Lebron and Katie on the same team,
Speaker 2: do you think there's any chance that that brings the
Speaker 2: competitive or do you think those old dudes are like,
Speaker 2: this isn't worth it.
Speaker 3: It's a great question, I think. I think bringing the
Speaker 3: fact that.
Speaker 4: If the Olympics wasn't last summer, if the Olympics wasn't
Speaker 4: so recent, I would say and even at this point,
Speaker 4: it will be one year later, so maybe I won't
Speaker 4: feel that recent at the time, but I do feel
Speaker 4: like that has had such an energy to it the
Speaker 4: Olympics that I'm hoping that carries over since you have
Speaker 4: that same core US group, And I also think it's
Speaker 4: good to have specifically Yiannis against.
Speaker 3: Playing against that team.
Speaker 4: It's not like Team USA versus France, Tuosa versus World
Speaker 4: team that has Giannis that is the most try hard
Speaker 4: player in the NBA, try art star, at least in
Speaker 4: the NBA, and so I'm hoping he and Wemby, who
Speaker 4: seems to be taking things like personally personally, but like
Speaker 4: he's he seems to be taking it a little. Seriously,
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that those two can set a little bit
Speaker 4: of a tone for the World team because you get
Speaker 4: those two in transition, I mean, they're I mean, that's
Speaker 4: a good of an All Star pairing as you could
Speaker 4: possibly come up with, honestly.
Speaker 2: And if those dudes just run and Luca and Jokic
Speaker 2: just throw kick ahead passes, that might go a long way.
Speaker 4: To tell me, Luca throwing three quarter lobs to Wemby
Speaker 4: and Giannis a game like, come on.
Speaker 2: But we all agree that, like, if those dudes really
Speaker 2: knuckle down, that they're just gonna beat the USA, right,
Speaker 2: Like we we agree on that.
Speaker 3: What's I don't know the case.
Speaker 4: The case is the the old Man Avengers just won
Speaker 4: the Gold and they and when Steph is rolling, you
Speaker 4: know who's stopping Steph in an All Star format. There's
Speaker 4: the other another wrinkle to this that I just thought of,
Speaker 4: by the way, is there is a chance that Jannis
Speaker 4: and Wemby are on the same team next year, and
Speaker 4: if they are both starting the All Star Game next
Speaker 4: to each other, going against the World team, then you're
Speaker 4: gonna get I think that would even ramp up the
Speaker 4: intensity a little bit more from from their perspective.
Speaker 2: But if the world's also gonna play harder to your point,
Speaker 2: I think that's where it gets pretty tough. I think
Speaker 2: we're talking about Steph will be well, Steffie thirty eight, yet.
Speaker 3: I think he.
Speaker 2: Will be Lebron will literally be forty one. Ad Ad
Speaker 2: will be thirty two or thirty three, I think at
Speaker 2: that point, and KD I think will be thirty eight
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly. It's pretty a group. It's an
Speaker 2: old it's an old group. You obviously start to dip
Speaker 2: into the benches and it gets tricky too. But you
Speaker 2: mentioned this to me in the text. But like I do,
Speaker 2: there are some realities to like, how could you even
Speaker 2: logistically pull this off in terms of putting.
Speaker 3: In the formats strange.
Speaker 4: The format's a little strange because we talk about the
Speaker 4: the European and the Overseas, not just europe. Overseas stars
Speaker 4: winning all the MVPs recently and feels like they're taking
Speaker 4: over the league as some of the times the conversation.
Speaker 3: But it's very top heavy.
Speaker 4: It's very top heavy, and so I'm wondering past guys seven,
Speaker 4: eight or nine. Like I saw some graphics people are
Speaker 4: making up putting Bogdanovitch out there and like that's fine,
Speaker 4: good for Bogdanovic, But right, are we gonna give that
Speaker 4: guy an All Star?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 4: Are we getting fifteen guys from each team? Are we
Speaker 4: just oping that we get a magic eight and eight?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Logistically and because of the the not in the moment importance,
Speaker 4: but the historical importance of All Star appearances and in
Speaker 4: terms of resume building and that kind of stuff, you
Speaker 4: can't just be gifting people all star games.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: To your point, you'd have to literally structure it in
Speaker 2: a way to where you gave all Star selections but
Speaker 2: didn't let dudes play like You'd have to have a team.
Speaker 2: You'd have to have a Team USA roster that is
Speaker 2: like seventeen players long right, and then have like to
Speaker 2: your you'd have to have like Bogdanovich come in and
Speaker 2: basically be a filler. I mean, when we start to
Speaker 2: go down the list, it's like we get to a
Speaker 2: lot of Americans before we get to other foreign players
Speaker 2: like Tyres Maxi, and I'm just going down the points
Speaker 2: per game list. Tyre's Maxi, Kate Cunningham, Jalen Brunson, Pala Boncaro,
Speaker 2: Devin Booker, as we established, would probably have to come
Speaker 2: off the bench, LaMelo Ball, Damian Lillard, Anthony Davis, Kyrie, Irvings,
Speaker 2: Zion Williamson, Steph Curry, Karl Anthony Towns, Lebron, James Trey Young.
Speaker 2: Franz is the first foreign name to show up on
Speaker 2: that list.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like you'll get Jamal Murray will finally get
Speaker 4: his All Star appearance.
Speaker 3: That's cool, I guess good for Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray
Speaker 3: up in there. I don't know, like the after the
Speaker 3: top five of the world.
Speaker 4: It is a very strong top five and they it's
Speaker 4: but it's very top.
Speaker 2: It after Franz, cam Thomas, American, Donovan Mitchell, American, Tyler
Speaker 2: Harrow American, Joe El Embiid Adopted American, Darreon Fox American,
Speaker 2: Zach Lavine, American, John Moran, American, James Harden American, Brandon
Speaker 2: Ingram American, Demart rose An American, Jalen Brown, American, Jaron Jackson, American,
Speaker 2: Norman Powell American. Like I'm Jamal Murray is the next guy.
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray is the next guy. At he's thirty ninth,
Speaker 2: and so this kind of goes to Kd's because Kadi
Speaker 2: was ranting about this a lot on social media, this
Speaker 2: idea that he like, he didn't he think some of
Speaker 2: the talk with the world catching up is overblown, and
Speaker 2: there's a case for both sides.
Speaker 3: Like I could argue both.
Speaker 2: Like if I was arguing that the world's ahead, I
Speaker 2: could be like, we have you know, the world has
Speaker 2: three of the top three players in the world right now,
Speaker 2: you know four of the top four, Like it's probably
Speaker 2: y'll get Shae, Giannis and Luca are your top are
Speaker 2: your top four in all likelihood?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But if I was arguing Kadi's point of view, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, it's just random because after you get past
Speaker 2: those top four guys, it's dominated by American players at
Speaker 2: that point. And obviously points per game isn't the perfect
Speaker 2: UH indicator there because there are guys like Sabonis who
Speaker 2: you're you're probably not putting, you know, all the way
Speaker 2: down in forty or something like that. But like there
Speaker 2: are other like do everything types of guys that are
Speaker 2: going to be higher on that list. But there is
Speaker 2: a reality to like, once you get off of that
Speaker 2: top tier of superstars, it's a pretty steep drop off
Speaker 2: from there, So, like I I feel like Adam Silver
Speaker 2: he did. He doesn't seem to have much of a
Speaker 2: plan for how this is gonna work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't seem that much of a planner.
Speaker 2: I admire the intention and the intention of trying to
Speaker 2: get guys to compete. My thing is like, if you're
Speaker 2: not going to give them something to compete for, meaning
Speaker 2: like if you're not gonna throw a bunch of money
Speaker 2: on the table, then really your only chance is the
Speaker 2: character of the players, Like you need more giannis as,
Speaker 2: more wembys, more guys that come in are like I'm
Speaker 2: playing hard tonight, and if you get enough of those guys,
Speaker 2: it'll work.
Speaker 3: It's just like any pickup run.
Speaker 2: If you go play pick up and you get seven
Speaker 2: or eight pretty high level players to play super hot hard,
Speaker 2: like you can mix in some riff raff and it's
Speaker 2: gonna work. But like once you dip below the like
Speaker 2: mandatory minimum of like understanding of high level basketball, like
Speaker 2: it's gonna fall off of a cliff. And like similarly,
Speaker 2: with effort and energy and competitiveness, like if.
Speaker 3: You get like.
Speaker 2: Like five or six dudes on the floor who are
Speaker 2: like really going for it, you'll have the other three
Speaker 2: or four they're gonna or four or five, they're gonna
Speaker 2: look at each other and they're gonna be like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be embarrassed and look stupid if we don't also
Speaker 2: start playing hard. And so it's on the players. We
Speaker 2: need competitors. We talked about competitiveness at the top. You
Speaker 2: need competitors to come in and actually uh raise that level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, last thing before we go.
Speaker 4: I do think that there is a chance that it
Speaker 4: works if it have and I think if this actually
Speaker 4: does happen.
Speaker 3: They really need just a stroke of.
Speaker 4: Good luck like they got with the first year of
Speaker 4: the ELA ending it was the first.
Speaker 3: Year after covid R.
Speaker 4: In the first year, yeah, and it was unbelievable in
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of that game, and the fact that
Speaker 4: in the next couple of years it wasn't because it
Speaker 4: wasn't even close in the fourth quarter getting to the
Speaker 4: fourth quurse, right, And so if by whatever stroke of luck,
Speaker 4: you get a close game heading into whatever the fourth
Speaker 4: quarter of this new format will be, then you have it.
Speaker 4: I think if it's get down to eight minutes left
Speaker 4: or a target score, these guys will turn on the
Speaker 4: country pride thing from the Olympics a little bit, but
Speaker 4: if it's not closed at that point, then it's gonna
Speaker 4: flop heavy.
Speaker 2: So in all, like, if there's one thing I agree
Speaker 2: with the Adam Silver approach over the last few years,
Speaker 2: he's gotten really janky with everything. But it doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense to play forty eight minutes if the guys aren't
Speaker 2: gonna play.
Speaker 3: Hard, like for sure. But my thing is like, if
Speaker 3: this doesn't work.
Speaker 2: And it's more or less the same dynamic that we've
Speaker 2: seen in other years, I think you just go back
Speaker 2: to forty eight minutes, you go back to East West,
Speaker 2: you go back to your normal rosters, and you just
Speaker 2: leave it up to the players to compete. And you know,
Speaker 2: I saw we saw Kevin Duran quote tweet the thing
Speaker 2: with Steven A. Smith when he was like saying like
Speaker 2: it's going to be like basically like saying it's going
Speaker 2: to be something that these players will be remembered for.
Speaker 2: Is like the players who killed the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: Katy's like, this is dramatic. I agree with Katie in
Speaker 2: that regard. Like, you know what I think about when
Speaker 2: I think about the NBA, I think about what we
Speaker 2: saw tonight. I think about what we've seen in this
Speaker 2: playoff run. I think about the dozens and dozens and
Speaker 2: dozens of incredible regular season moments that we get every year,
Speaker 2: crazy games, crazy star performance as game winners, showdowns between rivalries,
Speaker 2: like that's the stuff that I think about. Like, even
Speaker 2: when the All Star Game was better, it was pretty
Speaker 2: far down the list of things that I cared about.
Speaker 2: And so like the idea that like this is the
Speaker 2: legacy of this generation, I think, I think is foolishness.
Speaker 2: I think Adam silver owes it to the league to
Speaker 2: try a few more ways. But if he backed out
Speaker 2: and he was just like, look, the All Star Game
Speaker 2: is the All Star Game, I'm leaving it as I
Speaker 2: would respect that too. All Right, guys, it's all we
Speaker 2: have for YouTube tonight. We are headed over to playback.
Speaker 2: The first thing we do when we get over there
Speaker 2: is we're rewatching that fourth quarter. So we're gonna get
Speaker 2: over there, We're gonna watch some film, we'll take some callers,
Speaker 2: we'll take some questions again at playback dot tv slash
Speaker 2: Hoops tonight for the YouTube audience. I will be back
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning with a film breakdown. I'm also going to
Speaker 2: be doing something else on Saturday, but keep an eye
Speaker 2: on my Twitter feed for that. But tomorrow morning a
Speaker 2: film breakdown, and then obviously we will be back live
Speaker 2: after game two on Sunday. I will see you guys then.
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