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So if you care about 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: strong old economies and companies that walk the walk, check 19 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: out the good work and what they're doing it. We 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: deliver for America dot Org. All right, Danny Parkins, you 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: know him, You love him, I'm going to start because 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm making my summer vacation plans and stuff, you know. 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: And you know, because both of us, we can't take 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: any time off during the football season, so you got 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: to take all your vacation time in the summer, which 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: is harder because that's when most people take time off, 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: so it's harder to find good flights. So you know 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: how I always I always talked about this, like with 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: my wife. You know, there's always this debate. Is the 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: economy good? 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Is it bad? How? 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: What's the indicators? Is it an inflation? Is it the 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: stock market? Is the housing market? And I've always kind 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: of I remember years and years ago when I would 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: come to Chicago, somebody at ESPN gave me a driver, 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: gave me a number for a driver. It was Bernie Mack, 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: the Lake Comedians driver. So he used to tell me 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: just hilarious Bernie Mack stories. Who I love Bernie Mac. Wow, 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah, he was just he just told because 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: I loved Bernie and Ocean's eleven at the time had 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: come out, and I just I couldn't get enough Bernie 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: Mac stories. And I remember talking to him one time 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: and I said, how are things in Chicago. And he said, well, 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: the traffic's getting bad again. That means the economy is good. 45 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's interesting. He goes, yeah, yeah, 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: yeah in Chicago. He goes, I can tell you what 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: the economy is when the traffic's lousy. People are going 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: and coming home from work right coming. And so I thought, oh, 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: so I have always thought about that, and I tend 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: to use airlines. If the airlines are full, I don't 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: care what the economic indicators tell me. If people are 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: flying and there's kids on the plane, that means you're 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: like literally talking your wife into let's fly the kids 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: down to see Grandma. That's expensive. That costs a lot 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: of a lot of money. So I'm making some travel 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: plans this summer, and so I want to take my 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: son just doing some schooling in he every year he 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: goes in the summer or late spring, he goes to 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Europe and does a couple of weeks of you know, 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: classes through his school. So he's in Madrid, and I said, hey, 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: why don't I Why don't we go a week early 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: and you and I can hang out and then I'll 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: leave and you just stay and do your classes for 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, so you have a long Spanish 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: you know, summer. Just Dad will just hop on early 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: and we'll hang out together. And so I'm booking because 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna go with me. He's going to fly to 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Chicago and go with me. And here's my test of 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: the economy. So I said, let's go. Yeah, let's do 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: business class one way just to Madrid, because I'm going 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: to get my own way home. He's going to come 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: home with his class late night, sleeping most of it. 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Business class one way, two people, seventeen thousand, and I went, 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: I went, okay, the economy's good. So I said, Jack, 75 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy some gummies. We're gonna sit an economy 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: and either get stoned or something, but we're going to sleep, 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: and we're gonna sit in the back of the plane 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: because Dad's not going to spend it. Seventeen thousand dollars. 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Economy is like twenty three hundred. Business is seventeen grand. 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: And I said, I like sleep. I don't like it 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars worth for seven and a half hours 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: to Madrid. So as I'm doing this, I'm thinking to myself. 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: And there were only two seats left in business class. 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: Who are these people? It's a huge plane. They're sixty 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: business seats, they're all full. The first class are double that. 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: They're all full. And I'm like, this is just one 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: flight out of Chicago to Madrid and at night. And 88 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: so my takeaway is, how do you judge the economy? 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: I just I said to my son, I said, and 90 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: we would laugh about it. I'm like, you can't tell 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: me the economy is not rolling for somebody because the 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: whole damn plane. What so if that flight's full, how 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: many of New York, Philly, Boston or full first? 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: So, first of all, can we do gummies together? I 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: didn't know that was I didn't I didn't know that 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: was on the table. And how so that opens up 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: a whole new world of possibilities for Danny and Uncle Colin. Uh. 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: Second of all, uh, it would it'll be hilarious for 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: anyone to see Colin Cowhard in thirty one c all 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: zonked out on a milligrams like so that they're gonna 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: be like, is that Colin Coward he's riding in coach? Yeah, 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, he saw it was the sign of the economy. 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: So that's phenomenal, and Madrid's great, and Spain's great. You 104 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: guys will have an amazing time. How do I judge 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: in the economy, Well, I will say, like, I don't 106 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: think it's the stock market. That's not a good that's 107 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: not a good indicator, because you know, there's the Fortune 108 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: five hundred companies, but then there's like the Big seven, 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and like are the Big seven carrying everything else in 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: the AI boom? And like all these docks just go up, up, 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: up up up, So it's not to me, it's not 112 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: the stock market. Groceries feeling expensive is something for me 113 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: that like if I'm noticing that our grocery bill feels expensive, 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: and we definitely you know, it's not all organic, but 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: we shop at a nicer grocery store, try to eat healthy. 116 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: We have what fruit do you want today? For the kids, 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: they have multiple options in the house, you know what 118 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean. So if I feel like groceries are not 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: something like, I'm very fortunate, not something that I have 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: to budget for. But if I am noticing that, it's 121 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like that sure that we spend how much on groceries 122 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: this week? If it does, if even if I'm noticing it, 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that someone who is significantly less privileged than 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: me must be hurting from it, and so like, yeah, 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: so like when people say the economy's ripping, I'm not 126 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: positive that, Like because if you're going to fly to Europe, 127 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: it's flying overnight. It's not a bad way to do 128 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: it because you can sleep on the plane, not have 129 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: jet lag, and go and between two major hubs and 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: business class it's like company travel. It's business travel like, so, 131 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, I do get the sense that like inflation 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: is hurting people who make normal money. Like if you're 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: if you're if you're right, if you're the breadwinner of 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: your home and you're making sixty thousand dollars, life is 135 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: hard right now and expensive. I think that there is 136 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: just a spread between you know, the wealth gap is grew, 137 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the number of billionaires is growing, and so like wealth 138 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: inequality is growing. And so in terms of like a 139 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: single indicator, I don't think that they're the I think 140 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: you have to go a little smaller than business class 141 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: to Europe because I just think that like there's a 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: lot of people. I know someone who just got she 143 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: makes pretty good money, not not six feet but like 144 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: she's in her mid twenties, lives in New York and 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: makes nearly six figures. We'll say, So, you know a 146 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: salary that a lot of people would be happy to 147 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: make it twenty six years old, but when you're in 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: the most expensive city in the world, it's a lot. 149 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: She she just won what they call the housing lottery 150 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: out here where she gets to they have they have 151 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: every building that comes up, and I don't know all 152 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the details of it, but every building that comes up 153 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: every place where you they have to have a certain 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: number of like rent controlled apartments, And she gets to 155 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: move into a one bedroom for twenty three hundred bucks, 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: but like in an amenities building, in a building that 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: has a pool and a gym and an elevator and so. 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: And she used to talking about it about it like 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: it's like winning the actual lottery because of the relief 160 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: of she will be spending less money on a nicer 161 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: place than she spends on her current studio apartment to 162 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: grind it out making whatever ninety grand a year in 163 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: New York. So I think that the economy like doing well. 164 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: I think you just have to I think you have 165 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: to scale it down a little bit more in terms 166 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: of like the thing that you look at on whether 167 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: or not people are spending the money on things like that. 168 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: I have my steps on and his fiance are moving 169 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: to Brooklyn. They're at our house tonight and then they 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: tomorrow they drive the rest of the way. They've moved 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: from la to Brooklyn and they're paying forty six hundred 172 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: for a two bedroom in Brooklyn. It's a beautiful, cool 173 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: building with a beautiful gym, like a real gym, and 174 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: a rooftop like bar for young pa. It's very young, 175 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: hipster place. And I actually told him, I said, for 176 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: the quality here, you're not going to get anything in 177 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: California that nice. And like they can. It's Brooklyn, so 178 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 2: they next to a park, they can walk everywhere. And 179 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, god, I said, I Economically, I'm maybe in 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: a bubble, but god, that feels reasonable to me. 181 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, Brooklyn is super popular and 182 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: it's the thing that I need to like explore more 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: in New York. It's just I'm in the northern I'm 184 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: in the burbs north of New York, so I never 185 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: get down there. But like all the people like the 186 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: foodies here and the restaurant Seene. Everyone says, like all 187 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: the best spots are are opening up in Brooklyn, and yeah, 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: it's it's obviously all relative. Sometimes, word, you're detached from 189 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: my level of earning. I'm detached from some other levels 190 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: of learning. 191 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I'm living in a bubble. 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: I so I live through my kids. I ask my 193 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: kids all the time, what I look at them? What's rent? 194 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: You know? I asked my studies in college, how's the 195 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: money situation. He's like, I'm getting by. He likes to cook. 196 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: That helps so he you know, that helps him out. 197 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: And but it's I just when I heard that business class, 198 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: I was just like and they're like, there's and there's 199 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 2: like four flights a day, and I'm like, well, I'm 200 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: going on the least desirable one and that's the price. 201 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I was just floor, yeah, yeah, no, I mean Nixon 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Japan right now. And I was like, so you flying 203 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: first class. It's a long flight. He's like, not for 204 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: thirty k I'm like, thirty thousand dollars to Japan. 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: It's like, it's kind you could. 206 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Buy my car. 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: What are you? 208 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: What are you? 209 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? So I defended BAM out 210 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: of buyo. And here here's what My two things is, 211 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: first of all, if Jah Morant scored eighty three, far 212 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: less of a player than Bam out of buy you 213 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: not even the same stratus fare. Bam is just bigger, 214 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: more mature, more reliable, two time Olympian, five time All Defense. 215 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: But if John Morant scored eighty three, people would celebrate 216 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: it because he's cool. Aesthetically, he's appealing. It would look cool. 217 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: There'd be at least like four unbelievable spinning plays. Bam 218 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: scores eighty three, and it's like, what my neighbor in 219 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: waste management has a nicer house than I do this. 220 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: I don't like this at all. It'd be one thing 221 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: if it was Ben Affleck. It's like, you know, I 222 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: tend to think in the NBA style matters, and I 223 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: think it's off putting for Bam to shoot forty three 224 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: free throws when he averages five. And I mean Kobe 225 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: Bryant stayed in a game against an awful Raptors team 226 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: and scored in the last four and a half minutes 227 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: eleven points in a route. He was in the seventies, 228 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: he was high sixties, seventies, and he just kept going 229 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: and people celebrated it. There was no pushback. I mean 230 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, he's one of only the one 231 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: of the only Lakers that took a shot. He was like, 232 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: he shot like fourteen to the seventeen shot, and nobody 233 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: batter an I. But Bam does it, and I think 234 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: I just don't think stylistically, we feel like he's the 235 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: guy that should do it. So that's why I defended it. 236 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Could not disagree more. I don't personally think it has 237 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: much to do with Bam or his style. I definitely 238 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: think it has some to do with Kobe. But you 239 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: brought up Kobe. Let's just go back to the eighty one. 240 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: It became a blowout, but I just pulled it up, 241 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: so I have it exactly correct. They were down seven 242 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: after the first, they were down fourteen at half, and 243 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: they were up six going into the fourth quarter. That game, 244 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: that game was a real game. Now, was Kobe going 245 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: for the record? Yes? Did Kobe take all of the 246 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: shots late, no doubt about it. But Kobe did that 247 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: all the time, like kobebe could be a bit of 248 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: a ballhog. I mean that was literally, at one point 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter a six point game. I think 250 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: that Bam is a great story. A very very very 251 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: good player, All Star Olympian. He worships Kobe Bryant. He 252 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: clearly has friends in the league, respecting the league. I mean, 253 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Durant came out and supported him immediately. Jannis Lebron, He's 254 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: a well liked pros pro who's one of the best 255 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: defensive players of his era. I thought it was cool 256 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: that Asia Wilson was there. I have a group chat 257 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: of people who really care about the NBA, and BAM 258 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: having forty three at halftime hit the group chat. My 259 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: wife was out to dinner. I was watching Wemby against 260 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the Celtics. So when BAM has forty three at halftime, 261 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I'll throw it on the 262 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: second TV on the league pass. Then BAM has over 263 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: sixty through three, and I'm like, Okay, something's clearly happening here. 264 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Main TV it with volume. Jalen Brown had been ejected 265 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: by this point from the Celtics. Let's flip the screen situation. 266 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock in on this. So I did not 267 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: watch like highlights of it or box score it. I 268 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: watched the second half of that basketball game. Sometimes the 269 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: story is the record, and I know it's not the 270 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Wilts is the record, but it's the modern scoring record. 271 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes the story is the record. Other times the story 272 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: is how you got the record, how Michael Strahan got 273 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the single season sack record. It became more about how 274 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: we got it than the record. Doesn't mean he wasn't 275 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: a great player, doesn't mean it wasn't a great season. 276 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: But getting the last one against Farv. When Farv laid down, 277 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: We're like, Eh, that doesn't sit right, doesn't look right. 278 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: Don't love it. When David Robinson won the scoring title 279 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: over Shack, the Clippers sat all the starters after five minutes. 280 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: He was clearly gunning for it. He got seventy one. 281 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Don't talk about it as an all time great scoring accomplishment. 282 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: We talk about it as kind of game the system 283 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, but okay, he's the scoring champion. The 284 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: last six or seven minutes of that basketball game last night, 285 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: it was just not basketball. They are intentionally fouling to 286 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: maximize possessions. Up twenty five in the fourth quarter against 287 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: the Wizards. Yeah s, Spolster is challenging offensive fouls on 288 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Bam on a charge with four minutes left in a 289 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: twenty point game to try to get him extra free throws. 290 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: His teammates are intentionally missing free throws to try to 291 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: get him extra possessions. Like I have. It was a 292 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: great game. I have no problem with them going for 293 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: the record. I have no problem, but when you are 294 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: manipulating possessions in order to do it, and Kobe's Yes, 295 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: he shot all the shots, but it was at least 296 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: a competitive game. Minutes into the fourth quarter, it became 297 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: a blowout because of his dominance. 298 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: I just. 299 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I didn't like how he got the record. It doesn't 300 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: mean it wasn't an all time great performance. When Klay 301 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Thompson scored sixty two on twenty nine minutes, he sat 302 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: the fourth. When Kobe had sixty five, I think against 303 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: the Mavericks and they were blowing him out, he sat 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the fourth. There's just like there was something about it 305 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: that just didn't sit right if you were watching it, 306 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: because he didn't get it by playing real basketball. 307 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: If he'd ha scored he had sixty two at the 308 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: end of three, if he just ended with seventy one 309 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: and they didn't do that, you're saying if he has 310 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: scored sixty eight and didn't do that, it sits much better. 311 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I mean we've Booker, Lillard, Luca, they 312 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: all have seventy point games. Like it's scoring is going up. 313 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Teams are tanking, teams are bad like all of those. 314 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: When David Robinson did it, it hadn't happened since David Thompson, 315 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: and there were three guys ever to do it. Then 316 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: after David Robinson did it, there was a long gap 317 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: until Kobe did it. Then there's it's happening more regularly. 318 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: Like I was going back and forth on sound Tariico 319 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: and Reggie during the Celtics game are talking about what 320 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: Bam did and Reggie's like openly opening that someone's gonna 321 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: get a hundred, and he's I mean, he's he's right 322 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: if what happened last night is immediately celebrated when it's 323 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: not basketball, like someone's gonna get hot, a team is 324 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: going to decide to game it and go for it, 325 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: and that guy will be hot from three. Bam took 326 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of threes. He only hit like seven of 327 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: them he shot. He shot less than fifty percent from 328 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: the floor. So like, and I know people have been 329 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: in my mentions and comments all day, like all you do, 330 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: all you guys, do is you just want to complain 331 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: about basketball? Like I promise. I love basketball. I was 332 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: watching two games by myself on a weeknight in the 333 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: regular season. I love the sport. I just don't like 334 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: how he got it. And here's a take or a 335 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: theory that I haven't said publicly. I wanted to save 336 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: it for you. I think because he Kobe was his 337 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: favorite player. I think if he would have tied him 338 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: at eighty one, no complaints. I think if he would 339 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: have I think if he would have done it as 340 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: a tribute to Kobe, it would have been like, oh 341 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: my god, how cool, and like, yeah the Wizards, and 342 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: yeah they were gunning for it. But there is something 343 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: about Kobe's eighty one in the flow of a game 344 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: and BAM's eighty three when he is being triple teamed 345 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: and his teammates are passing up layups and they're intentionally 346 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: following guys and challenging calls and missing free throws. It 347 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: wasn't basketball. I have no other way to describe it 348 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: other than it wasn't basketball. And so I just I 349 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: don't I wanted to take away from Bam because it 350 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: was cool, But I can't sit here and celebrate it 351 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: in the same way as Kobe Bryant's I can't I 352 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: can't do it. Reasonable vinds can disagree. 353 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Today's show brought to you by our presenting sponsor, hard 354 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: Rock Bet, Florida's sportsbook. So it's March Baby. College basketball 355 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: center stage stakes are high and now is the time 356 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: to hit it with hard Rock Bet. 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Admit it. 374 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: In Indiana. 375 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: If you are somebody you know as a problem wants help, 376 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: call one eight hundred and nine with it. Gambling problem 377 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: called one eight hundred gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. 378 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Here's another take I had. I said, through Lebron's career, 379 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like I used the example of 380 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: David Schwimmer on Friends. He could be a mobster in 381 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: his next ten roles. To me, he's ross on Friends. 382 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: He's been typing, yeah, kind of the white whiny kind of. 383 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: He was such a strong character on Friends, and he 384 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: played it for so long. That's what and who he is. 385 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: And so similarly, Lebron has been typecast is that Lebron 386 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: makes everything work. He and Dwayne Wade were not a 387 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: perfect fit. Neither was really a great catch and shoot guy. 388 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 2: The team had no center or no true point but 389 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: they worked because of sheer athleticism. He and Kyrie Irving 390 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: shouldn't have worked. Kyrie needs the ball, Kyrie plays no defense, 391 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: and yet Lebron made that work. Lebron made Ilguni z 392 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Alguscis work in Cleveland, got him to a finals. He 393 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: made him suddenly. We talked about this guy as this 394 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: energy guy without much touch. Is just unbelievable. Anthony Davis 395 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: had a label as a soft player, didn't fight through injuries, 396 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: not in great shape. No, he wins with him too, 397 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: and it's perfect. So every Matthew Delavandova Jr. Smith was 398 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: a broken player everything for twenty years, Lebron had been 399 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: tighte cast. It just works. So then when he plays 400 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: with Luca, it's like, of course, this is the easy one, 401 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: and it's it's the one that doesn't because neither wants 402 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 2: to be off ball. Lucas so much better at this 403 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: point than Lebron is, so Lebron has to play off ball. 404 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: He's having a bad jump shooting season, and if you 405 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: play with Luca, you have to be good defensively to 406 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: cover up his flaws. That's why the one time he 407 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: went to the finals with Dallas, Big athletic. They acquire 408 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: that trade deadline PJ Washington Rim protectors suddenly are like, oh, 409 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: Lucas stinks on defense, It doesn't matter. He just pushes 410 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 2: people to this, then takes off, pushes people, runs him 411 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: off the three point line. So there's a way to 412 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: build around bad defensive players Steph Kyrie. Well, Lebron never 413 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: was that, and so there's this belief that Lebron and 414 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: Luca it will eventually work. It's over a year in 415 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: the net rating, the defensive rating, it's atrocious when Lebron 416 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: and Luca are together. In fact, when Luca and Austin 417 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: are together, it's fantastic, and nobody wants to hear this. 418 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: Luca and Austin are great Luca without Austin, and no, 419 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: Lebron's great Austin. Just take Lebron out of all the 420 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: plus minuses. Everything works unless you put Lebron in it 421 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: on the Lakers, and nobody quite knows what to make 422 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: of it because he's still a very good player. Yeah, 423 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: Lebron is still a very good player. It's the Laker's 424 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: fault in terms of the roster construction because to your point, 425 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: they were together last year and we've watched Lebron and 426 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: Luca long enough we should know. But I think there's 427 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: a time when Lebron and Luca could have worked, but 428 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: not when Lebron's forty one, because I mean, Lebron was 429 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: first Team All Defense I think two thousand and nine 430 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen. Like, he's not he doesn't have as 431 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: many he doesn't have as many as sortative yeah six 432 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: times all in his twenties. But there are no great 433 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: defensive players in the NBA in their mid thirties on. 434 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: They're just not. 435 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: And so that's the thing, Like there was a point 436 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: in time when Lebron and Luca obviously could have worked, 437 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: but it is not when Lebron is in his forties, 438 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: and everybody should know that. So, you know, they haven't 439 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: played a ton of minutes together this year, relatively speaking, 440 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: But we want to make them a story because they're 441 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: good for ratings. It's the Lakers, it's celebrity, Lebron matters 442 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: a lot to the league, and like. 443 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: It's a good offensive team. 444 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: They're fine, Yeah, exactly right, and you and you like 445 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: and they walk onto the court feel bad. Yeah, it 446 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: feels big, and it's like and I'll admit, like I'm like, damn, 447 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: that's an impressive five. Like you know, like when you 448 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: like when they when they walk onto the cart, You're like, 449 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: why any given night it feels like they could score 450 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: one and twenty five points and just and just outscore you. 451 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: But the West is too good and like the thunder 452 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: are too good defensively, and the Rockets are too good defensively, 453 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: and the Spurs are way too good defensively, and the 454 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Wolves are too athletic. Like they're drawing dead. They're they're 455 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: they are, they are they'll make the playoffs and they 456 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: are drawing dead. But they have so much star power 457 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: and brand power that people like us almost feel compelled 458 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: frankly to talk about them because it's good for business. 459 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: But like, I can't tell you how many times I've 460 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: seen like Lakers contender or pretender. I've been on shows 461 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: or the questions like Lakers. They are not a contender. 462 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: They're not a contender. No, It's it's very obvious. And 463 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: like it's like they're worse with Lebron. Is that Lebron's fault? 464 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: If he is still very good and he's forty one 465 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: and he's like, well, you guys want me to be 466 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen, like I'm not that anymore. Like so, I 467 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: just I guess it's a criticism of Lebron, But at 468 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: forty one years old, I don't expect him to be 469 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: a lockdown defensive player, given that that's never happened in the 470 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: history of the Sport. 471 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Bears. Nine and a half is that the easiest bet 472 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: of the offseason. Bears have added Kobe Bryant, Devin Bush, 473 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: Bradley the center, Caleb's gonna get better second year. They 474 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: by the way, they play the NFC South and the 475 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: AFC East, so you know they're beating the Dolphins in 476 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: the Jets. Bears at least. 477 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: I love it. The The regression case is simple. They 478 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: had seven comeback wins, they led the league in takeaways, 479 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: and left guard, center, right guard, right tackle all played 480 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: over ninety percent of your snaps. So you're gonna have 481 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: some offensive line injuries, and obviously the Dolmin injury, you 482 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: already you've already lost your center out out of that equation. 483 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be it's gonna be a different offensive line, 484 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: even if they're bringing the other you know, three pieces back. 485 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the three prongs. Case for regression 486 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: is what I just said. Offensive line won't be as 487 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: healthy as it was, you won't lead the league in takeaways, 488 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna have seven fourth quarter comebacks. But 489 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Caleb is gonna be better. He's just he is going 490 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: to be better. And the well Colston loved on Luther 491 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Burden at the end of the year were accelerating. They 492 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: became like like like Colston Lovelin became is he like 493 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: the second best tight end? Correct? And I think so. Yeah. 494 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: I think the Bears have an incredibly high offensive ceiling 495 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: this year. Like, I think they're going into the year 496 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: thinking that they can be the best offense in football. Now, 497 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: probably a third of the league believes that. Dallas believes it, 498 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: the Rams believe it, the Jaguars believe it, the you know, 499 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: the Niners believe it. So I'm not saying I'm not 500 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: saying I'm picking them to be the number one offense 501 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: in football, but like, they absolutely are going to go 502 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: into the year thinking that they can be. The schedule 503 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: point that you made is a good one, and that's 504 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: the like Caleb's improvement in year two under Ben Johnson, 505 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: year three in the league, like it's the year for 506 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: the leap, and he got better every month during the 507 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: season last year as he was learning the system. So 508 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine how big of a leap he 509 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: can take from year two to year three. So yeah, 510 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna hear me coming on here and being like, 511 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: I think the Bears are an eight win team, no shot. 512 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So I just watched one Battle after another twice 513 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: I watched, watched it, and then I flew back from 514 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: Florida and I watched it again. I think it's an 515 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: exceptional movie. I've always seen it once, but yeah, I 516 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: thought in theaters it was great. I just watched Marty 517 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Supreme the other night, but go ahead, how's that? 518 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: Uh Shlomo was incredible? Incredible? But sorry, go ahead. 519 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: So I watched that movie and after it was done, 520 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: I said to my wife, I said, I think Christian 521 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: Bale is the best European actor. Russell Crowe is the 522 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: best actor in Australia. And I said, I think Sean 523 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: Penn is our greatest domestic actor. I think he is 524 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: our greatest I think he is the greatest actor in 525 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: our country. And I watched that movie. First of all, 526 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: part of being a great actor is I cannot take 527 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: my eyes off you when you enter a scene. It 528 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who else is in the scene. If you're 529 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: in the scene, my eyes go right to you. The 530 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: second thing I judge is if you don't talk a 531 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: lot and you still have power. Anthony Hopkins in Silence, 532 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: wuld He's only on screen eleven minutes. He has very 533 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: little dialogue. Literally dominates, dominates the movie. It's one of 534 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: the greatest performances in the history of acting. Eleven minutes dominates. 535 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: And also that movie was released very early in the year, 536 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: so which is like not a recipe to win Oscars, 537 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: Like you usually wanted to be released right before the Oscars. 538 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: That was came out long before. But I'm watching that 539 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: movie and Leonardo DiCaprio is obviously brilliant, and yet Sean 540 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: Penn when you juxtaposed him, when you put him on 541 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: the screen together, I'm like, No, Sean Penn dwarfs Leonardo 542 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: DiCaprio and I I just came out of that movie 543 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not sure. There's a lot of 544 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: great actors and I'm not It's not a short list, 545 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: it's a lot. 546 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Right, There's an there's a Denzel argument, there's a Tom 547 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: Hanks argument, there's a Leo. 548 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Argument, there's a yeah, there's there's this brilliant people. Yeah, 549 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: everywhere you know in my lifetime, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, like, 550 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: there are people that I mean, Meryl Streep just doesn't 551 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: make I. I can't get over the performance God in 552 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: the in fact before I won't you know, I won't 553 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: give too much away, but before the demise of Colonel 554 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: Lockjaw Sean Penn, even the last two scenes, You're like, 555 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't know how they did it. It's the greatest 556 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: makeup artist in the history of the industry. I I 557 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: and and by the way, I want my artists. I 558 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: don't want them to look like John Hamm. I don't. 559 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't want my artists to look like Denzel. I 560 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: want them to look like artists and be off and 561 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: different and unique. And that's why I think it's so 562 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: effective when you get like, you know, it's it's Robin 563 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: Williams could play he just he was just Different's brain 564 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: was functioning in a MILLI you could do Missus, doubtfire, 565 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: he could do Goodwill hunting. He was just he was 566 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: a different human being from stand up to his humanity, 567 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: to his I mean just this cavernous ability to do 568 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: reservoir of different characters and voices. I think Sean Penn's 569 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: the best actor in this country. Well, listen, it's a 570 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: great it's a great take. It's obviously super subjective. He's 571 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: got a real good shot at winning Best Supporting Actor. 572 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh you know, but like Benisio was incredible too in 573 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: that movie also as a nominated Best Supporting Actor, he 574 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: was funnier, right. 575 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I think Sean Penn's character stole so many scenes in 576 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: that movie. Because I think it's the best movie I've seen. 577 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: I think it was my favorite movie I've seen. When 578 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: I watched it a second time, I liked it more. 579 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite movie I've probably seen in 580 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: twelve months. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's a really 581 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: good year. Uh, Sinners was great, One Battle after another, 582 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: Marty Supreme like those. It's it's a it's a fun 583 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: Best Actor and a fun Best Picture race this year 584 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: in the odds seem to suggest that it's pretty wide 585 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: open and the I don't remember which one one it what, 586 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: but I know that like Sag after a Golden globes, 587 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: the bath that's like it's been kind of split, like 588 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: it had like one person hasn't won all of the 589 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: awards leading up to it, so there's a lot of 590 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: debate and who's gonna you know, take home take home 591 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: the hardware at the at the Academy Awards. And what 592 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: a spot for Conan. I know you and I have 593 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: talked about Conan, but like what a hosting spot for 594 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: for Conan next week? With the Rob Reiner tribute and 595 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to balance everything that's going on with like the 596 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: industry and that and that's just an. I can't wait 597 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: to see how he handles it because I know it's 598 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: more of my generation than your. I think he's brilliant. 599 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: What I would say about DiCaprio's case that I like 600 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: for the best for the Best Actor, and I guess 601 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: maybe it's more of a chock opinion than Sean penn 602 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: Is has never done a franchise and has been crushing 603 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: it since he was little, and like he won the 604 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: Best Actor for the for the Revenant, and I'm like, 605 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: is that even one of his five best performances? Yeah? Yeah, 606 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: Like it was just you know, like Gilbert great, incredible, 607 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: a scene stealer and a huge ensemble cast in The Departed, 608 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, going blow for blow with Jack Nicholson obviously, 609 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, uh. 610 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: He's a very good he plays a great strained human. 611 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's just they're all you know, they're 612 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: all singular characters, and they're like they said, no franchises, 613 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot of original ideas, big movies, small movie. Like 614 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: he's just he's spectacular. Hank's doing all the biopic work 615 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: that he can do is pretty incredible. Like he actually 616 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: plays people, you know what I mean. And then he's like, oh, wow, 617 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: you're you're now Sully, Like okay, yeah, I believe that, 618 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I believe it. But I 619 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: think Sean Penn why he stole the scenes in that movie. 620 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: It was like it was like the most it felt 621 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: like he was the most unlike Sean Penn because he 622 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: was like such an evil, vile person. 623 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: And he was such an inappropriate what I'm saying, he 624 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: was so. 625 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Oh Leonardo, Leonardo DiCaprio was kind of a weird stoner, 626 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: like I buy it, like you know, like how much 627 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: how much work did you do? Like what he would 628 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: tell the story, it's a great story of how he 629 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: like prepped for the Quailude scene in Wolf of Wall 630 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: Street and he's like, I watched a video of a 631 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: guy who was really messed up on YouTube. It's like, okay, yeah, 632 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: you've also done a lot of drugs, uh so so 633 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: you can you can get it together. Like yeah, that 634 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: was a pretty incredible performance by Sean Penn. And I listen, 635 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like a death of Hollywood, like totally fatalistic 636 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: person about it, but I see why every actor is 637 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: like I. 638 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: Want to work with Paul Thomas Anderson. 639 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Because like that is such a Yes, there's a source 640 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: material of a book, but like you've been working on 641 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: it for decades. 642 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: It's a huge. 643 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: Epic piece that it's shot in all these different locations. 644 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: It's like a totally origin it's a totally original take. 645 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: Like I would just imagine all these actors that are 646 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: getting like, oh, I could be the fourth person to 647 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: be the Hulk or the sixth person to be Batman 648 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: or Spider Man. Like it's just like you get a 649 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: script like that, it has to just be so refreshing 650 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: because like what a singular movie like like that might 651 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: be a defining Shawn He's done he didn't misstic river 652 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: like he's on all these unbelievable things, and it's like, oh, 653 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: that's the defining thing for Sean Penn. It's pretty cool. 654 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was fascinating. The road scene that lasted 655 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes. Then you could write that down in 656 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: a script and it's not captivating. But when you watched 657 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: it and the movie and the music they used under that, 658 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: that intense music that went like twelve minutes of watching 659 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: cars drive up and down a desert road, could not 660 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 2: take your eyes off it. 661 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: The second time, I'm like, god, it was great and like, 662 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a longer movie, but it didn't feel 663 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: long at all. Like that. That is a great test 664 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: of a movie, like did you think it should be shorter? 665 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: If you thought it should be shorter, it's not a 666 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: great movie. It can be a good movie. It could 667 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: be a movie that you would like and recommend to somebody, 668 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: but it's not a great movie. Like if you have 669 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: a long movie that you're like, it's great and I 670 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't cut a thing, it's like that's that's a great film. 671 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: Because that movie was a it was an epic, it 672 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: was it was an it was just like, and there's 673 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: not there's not that many anymore that like you were, 674 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: you were like, I have to see it in the theater. 675 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: I have to see it how the filmmaker intended. 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