1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Caf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: I don't know where he went. I don't know what 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: he does. You're honor. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 3: I was told nothing. I find that's the deniability that 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: makes my life easier. Got the whole crew though. Eric's here, 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: Debrah's here, and we will rock it. I think Angel 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: watching traffic. There are all kinds of things happening. We'll 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: get to all of it today. One of the things 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: that has seized center stage in the news for the 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: last few weeks is the Guthrie story, and it is 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: beyond complex because it's hard to believe that a kidnapping 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: of someone so high profile could be followed by such 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: silence and also followed by what is widely alleged to 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: be almost misconduct on the part of detectives and law 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: enforcement authorities and investigative brand that we're all dealing with this, 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: So Alex Stone is standing by and can bring us 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: the very latest on this to one would hope bring 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: some light to this and maybe some signs of optimism. 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: Although it just seems to be a grimmer and grimmer story, 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: but there is more detail and some new development so high. 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Alex heay there. 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, so today and I wish it was better news, 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: but they really don't have a lot. So the Pima 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department said today they are quote refocusing the 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: resources and it's going to be detectives who are specifically 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: assigned to the case who are going to work it 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: because until now it's been all hands on deck, everybody 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: try to figure this out. But they've got to run 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: a department as well, and they've got regular calls coming 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: in that have nothing to do with Guthrie. They've got 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: other cases that were going on before Guthrie that they've 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: got to get back to. And so now they've got 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: to figure out how they're going to deal with this 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: for the long term and what they're going to do 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that they can investigate it, keep it active, 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: keep it open, but get back to you know, we're 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: going into the fifth week now of this, get back 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: to somewhat regular life. The FBI is moving their command 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: post up to Phoenix. They're moving their agents, some of 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: them out of Tucson going back to Phoenix. They've got families, 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: they've got other caseloads as well. So they got to 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: work that. The FBI is saying their numbers will remain 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the same, but they can come that they're going to 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: do it from Phoenix. They can go back to Tucson 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: the ninety minute drive if they've got to go back down. 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: But they've got to figure out at the bureau, at 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the FBI, and at the Peba County Sheriff's Department how 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: they're going to do it long term. 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, just because you've covered 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: so many of these, this seems I mean, I understand 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: completely the logic behind it. 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: You've explained it. 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: I even understand sadly how you do sort of need 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: to redeploy resources along the way while still sort of 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: keeping you know, things on simmer. What I don't understand, 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: but I'm sure you can explain to me, is what 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: is the upside in announcing that. It just seems to 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: me as though it's a it's a bad look to announce. Well, 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: we're all going to kind of get back to normal activities, 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: but we'll still keep you know, Joe and Bob here 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: on this one. Yeah. 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of it is because 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: we've been asking them what the planning is. But also 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: if you are a victim of a crime in Pima County, 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: you're probably like, hey, what about me? You know, like 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: we got to what's the long term plan? And the 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: county wants to know, the county supervisors or whatever their 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: their makeup is in Pema County, where money is going 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: and how it's being used, and just the overall question 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: about the allocation of resources. 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a local politics to it, is what you're. 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Just how as we have been following every step of 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: their investigation of how are they going to keep handling 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: this in long term? I mean just like we as 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: a media I was in Tucson for a while and 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: then eventually you got to come back and you know, 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: working remotely, everybody's trying to figure out five weeks into it, 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: coming up into the fifth week, what the long term 80 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: plan is going to be. The other thing is, so 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of focused in the last twenty 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: four hours on ring camera footage from a home two 83 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: and a half miles away, and it shows a white 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: vehicle driving by the house around the time that the 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Guthrie went missing, just driving by the front of it. 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Our law enforcement sources are telling US today mark that 87 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: they don't give this a lot of value because one, 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: they don't think that this vehicle was involved. But also 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: even if it were, it's a white vehicle driving by 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: in the dark, you can't see a plate, you can't 91 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: even figure out really what kind of vehicle it is. 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: They might be able to generally have an idea of 93 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: what kind it is if they really work it, But 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: they said, you know, other than it's a white vehicle 95 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: driving by at two thirty three o'clock in the morning, 96 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: two and a half miles away, that could have been 97 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: somebody going to work, going to CBS to grab medicine, 98 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: coming home from the bar. It could be anybody two 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: and a half miles away from this. That's not a 100 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: smoking gun that they don't see it that way at all, 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: and why it took so long to find this video 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: for you know, somebody go back in the ring camera 103 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, there was a car they went by. 104 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: They've got so much this stuff that they are going 105 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: through right now that their tips, the number of tips 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: have gone up since the reward went up to one 107 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: point two million with the family putting in that money, 108 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: but they still don't know where Guthrie is and they 109 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: don't know who took her, and they've got a lot 110 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: of tips to go through, but they haven't figured it 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: out yet. 112 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean it streak. 113 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: It speaks to how desperate we are for something to 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: happen in this case that they are talking about that 115 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: ring camera stuff that you're speaking. 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's really a media thing. And then they had 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to respond to it and kind of you know, damping 118 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: it down and say, look, we know about this video, 119 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean anything because they don't think there's 120 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: any evidentiary value to it and it doesn't help them 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: investigative lead to that. It's not going to move them 122 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: toward whoever did this. And oh, by the way, that 123 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: the family is getting the home back as well. The 124 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: initially the Pima County Sheriff's Department had moved in, they 125 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: secured the scene, they handed the home over to the family, 126 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: and then the FBI at some point in the last 127 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks took the home back, even though it 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: had already gone to the family, and because it didn't 129 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: seem like Pima County gave them the home back very 130 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: quickly to the family where you could go in and 131 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: you could do whatever you wanted. The FBI took control 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: of the home again as they came in and they 133 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: were investigating. Now they are done with it, as they 134 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: are moving resources out. They are giving the home back 135 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: to the family and the family can do, you know, 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. 137 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: That was one of the criticisms was that, you know, 138 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: the chain of custody on the crime scene, if you will, 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: was pretty weird in that they turned it over too 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: quickly to those that had nothing to do with the investigation. 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: Well, and the sheriff said that they were done with it. 142 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: That he said he will fall on the sword for 143 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: that if if somebody thought that they did it too quickly. 144 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: He says that their forensic teams had come in, that 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: they had analyzed everything. But if you remember after they 146 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: moved back and they gave up the home, that there 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: was blood on the front porch that had not been 148 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: cleaned up, that was quite visible. Domino's pizza guy delivered 149 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: a pizza there to somebody who had ordered. For a while, 150 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: it seemed like that people were finding it funny to 151 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: have pizzas delivered to the home, just you know, people 152 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: who were not connected to the case whatsoever. In the 153 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: media may have also been using that as an address 154 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: to get something delivered to them if they were hungry 155 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and couldn't leave. But delivery people were walking up to 156 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the home not finding whoever they were supposed to be 157 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: delivering it to, and there was just a lot of access, 158 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: so they eventually secured the home. They've had a deputy 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: parked out front ever since then. Now that it's going 160 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: back to the family, the FBI and Pema County had 161 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: put up no trespassing signs on the family's behalf or 162 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the family asked them to put them in, so it's 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: going to be their home again, and the investigative part 164 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: of it is done at the home. They may come 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: back from time to time to look at something, but 166 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: they're moving on from the home without any answers of 167 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: what happened to the homeowner. 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: It's all pretty grim. 169 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: And I saw that Savannah Guthrie is I mean again 170 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: it might be a response to being questioned about this. 171 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure she's not like screaming this in the rooftops, 172 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: but indicating at some point she's going to come back 173 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: to the Today Show. And it's such a sad code 174 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: of you know, at. 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: What point does she leave Tucson and decide it's time 176 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: to go home back to New York. That's going to 177 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: be a tough move to make. And you heard in 178 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: the Instagram post that she put out this week where 179 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: she now says, you know her mom might be dancing 180 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: in heaven is the way that she put it, and 181 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: that they are admitting that maybe mom isn't alive any longer. 182 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: And just today she reposted something focused on that. Because 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the reason why and part of the reason why putting 184 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: out the reward money is to beef up the tips 185 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: coming in again, so this doesn't go cold, it becomes 186 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: a cold case and the tips aren't coming in. And 187 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the video had done that, but they didn't get what 188 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: they needed out of it. So once they did this, 189 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: we now know that the reward amount has increased those 190 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: tips coming in. But the point that the family keeps 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: trying to make is that you can be totally anonymous 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: and come and make a deal at a third party, 193 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: neutral location with like a pin code essentially to pick 194 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: up and it would be in cash if you could 195 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: provide where the the you know where she is and 196 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: who took her. I mean, it's hard to believe it 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: would be completely anonymous and no questions asked if you 198 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: said you knew about the case. But they are claiming, 199 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: the family is claiming that at least their portion of 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the money, that if you can prove to them that 201 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: you know where she is and who took her, and 202 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: if they can confirm that and know that it's real, 203 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: that you could say I want to meet at this 204 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: post office or on the street corner and there will 205 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: be somebody disconnected from the case there to hand you 206 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: cold hard cash. 207 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Certainly I hope for that Hail Mary pass to be caught. 208 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: It just seems like a pretty grim scene all in all. Alex, 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: thank you. Always enjoyed talking to your right week with this. 210 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah you too, my friend. Uh yeah, I mean that's just, 211 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: as I say, just the bare reality of the Guthree case. 212 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Thanks to Alex Stone. 213 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: When we come back, it is the prison couple that 214 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: may be going away for a while. What a ride 215 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: they had before Federal prison showed up. KFI AM six 216 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 217 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt demand from KFI AM six forty. 218 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 3: This is KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on 219 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app John cobelts off today, Mark Thompson sitting 220 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: in and we just got the word that Neil Sedaka 221 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: passed away apparently pretty suddenly. 222 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: But that was his huge song. 223 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: It was a number one song for him, and he 224 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: was the same generation of artists and writers, songwriters like 225 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: Neil Diamond, Carol King and grew up in Brooklyn and 226 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: apparently he was a prodigy of sorts. In second grade, 227 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: his teacher recommended piano lessons, and within a couple of 228 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: years he'd successfully auditioned for a scholarship at Juilliard and 229 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: he was into classical music. He initially pursued classical music 230 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: as a piano player, but then as a teenager he 231 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: got into this sound of pop music. And at thirteen, 232 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: a neighbor heard him playing piano and introduced him to 233 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: her son, a guy named Howard Greenfield. He was three 234 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: years older than Neil Sadaka. So they began a songwriting 235 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: partnership that was absolutely scorching the charts. Multiple times they 236 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: hit in the year's following. They were together for two 237 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: and a half decades. And again, I'm you know, you 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: learn so much of this when you when somebody passes away. 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: I I one of the reasons I look at the 240 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: ovits is because you learn about people's lives who a 241 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: were famous and you kind of didn't know a bunch 242 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: of details about their life until they passed away, and 243 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: you look at the oh bit. And also there are 244 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: a bunch of people who in a way should have 245 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: been famous for all the stuff that they did and 246 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: all the details in their life. So anyway, this falls 247 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: into the former category. You know, this is somebody famous 248 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: and I'm just learning all these details about Neil Sadaka's life. 249 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: So he graduated high school, formed a duop group called 250 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: the link Tones, named after the school. They released several 251 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: singles that were local hits, and then one of their 252 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: songs scored a global, huge hit in nineteen sixty one, 253 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: The Lion Sleeps Tonight. You know that song, most of you. 254 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: I think I love that song. Sure. 255 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: But by the time Sedaka and Greenfield, his partner, were 256 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: you know, in the Brill Building there in New York 257 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: where they cranked out all those hits. 258 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: Carol King wrote. 259 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: There and Neil Diamond, as I say, he and Greenfield 260 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: scored their first hit with a song called Stupid Cupid 261 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: and then another song called where the Boys Are Again. 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: Sorry I don't know these songs, but these were really 263 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: big songs at the time, and then parlayed that success 264 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: into a solo deal. So Neil Sadaka made this deal 265 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: with RCA Victor and he had a bunch of hits, 266 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: and the Beatles and the British Invasion, they kind of 267 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: began this major change in music, right It changed pop 268 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: culture and so all that dou wop stuff that Neil 269 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: Sadaka was basically getting rich off of, it got bumped 270 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: out of the side. It got bumped off to the 271 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: side where it sort of languished, and you ended up 272 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: with pop music being dominated by the Beatles, the British Invasion, 273 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: the Stones, the Who, all of that stuff. So he 274 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: and his writing partner, this guy Greenfield, wrote hits for 275 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, Tom Jones, the Monkeys, the Fifth Dimension. 276 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy was cranking and in the late sixties, 277 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: with his career kind of ebbing, he found success in 278 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: a song called Star Crossed Lovers became a major hit there, 279 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: and then through the seventies he continued to percolate, worked 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 3: in the UK, in Australia, and then Love Will Keep 281 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: It Together was a big song here, and that was 282 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: a song like the Captain and To Neil did, and 283 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, Neil Sedaka was quickly 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: re christened as a hit maker. There were other hits 285 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: in Europe. He wrote for Abba. He met his I 286 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: don't want to say his idol, but he was a 287 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: fan of Elton John and he met him at a 288 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: party in London and then signed with his record label, 289 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: and that was one of the things that allowed for 290 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: or The Captain to Neil's version of Love Will Keep 291 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: Us Together to explode, and he did a song called 292 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: bad Blood, which was also a number one single. So 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: he even did a reboot of Breaking Up Is Hard 294 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: to Do. He moved over to Electra Records, continued performing, 295 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: releasing music. Apparently he was pretty prolific, to the point 296 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: that he was active even in his later years. He 297 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: did a concert at Lincoln Center in two thousand and 298 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: seven for the fiftieth anniversaries of his debut in show business, 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: and Captain and to Neil were there. Natalie Cole Connie Francis. Anyway, 300 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: he has a wife who survived him, who he married 301 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty two. That's pretty impressive for a guy 302 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: who's rocking and working in the rock and roll world 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: and pop music. Two children, and again he passes away 304 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: at eighty six. I met him once a party and 305 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: he played piano at a party. You know what, you 306 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: know whose party it was? It was that Jeweler to 307 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: the Stars. People are on the red carpet when they 308 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: go unto the oscars. 309 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: You know who are you wearing? Ah, this is Martin Katz. 310 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: This is the rings from Martin Katz and the earrings 311 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: and matching necklace from Martin Katz. So I knew Martin 312 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: Katz when he was Marty Katz. He was just this 313 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: guy who I knew and he wasn't Jeweler to the Stars. 314 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: And he had a party and at the party and 315 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: this is in La. He moved to LA from Northern California. 316 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: And he's really, you know, super high end jeweler now 317 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: and for the last thirty years. But Neil Sedaka was 318 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: there and Sadaka he asked Sadaka to sit down and 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: play the piano and he did. It was really kind 320 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: of a cool thing. Seemed like a cool guy. Neil Sedaka, 321 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: legendary singer and songwriter, and of course Eric didn't know 322 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: who he was, which makes this segment more delicious than ever. 323 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: Thank you Eric for not knowing who knows the doctor is? Yes, 324 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: it is the co Belt Show. Thompson sitting in. We're 325 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 326 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 327 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: six forty. 328 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson here for John co Belt on this Friday. 329 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: It's wild because the weather is so warm and it's Friday. 330 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: There is nothing on the road. I mean I got 331 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: here in like, you know, nine minutes. It's crazy. And 332 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: then you pull into the parking lot here at the 333 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: great iHeart Mothership, and there are no cars in the 334 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: parking lot. I mean, I didn't realize we lacked the 335 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: work ethic to this point. It's wonderful. Yeah, Eric explained 336 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: it to me. He said, no, it's Friday, weather's good. 337 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: No one shows up on Friday, no matter if the 338 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: weather's good or bad. Mark this place. Come on. 339 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: Now, what's amazing to me about La is I think 340 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: it's expensive. I think it's expensive to live in la 341 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: and still it seems like nobody works. I don't understand, like, 342 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: is everybody on their way to an audition or is 343 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: everybody I mean, it used to be this town was 344 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: a showbized town. You could understand why, you know, writers 345 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: or grips or lighting people or makeup artists, how they 346 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: were on an alternate schedule than the nine to fivers. 347 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: But I feel like what we're left with are you know, 348 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: sort of crafts people, contractors. These are the people that 349 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: are really working, you know, construction crews. I don't know. 350 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: The business is definitely changing too. The show business industry rocked, 351 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: as you're aware, by this Netflix deal and the Warner 352 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: Brothers takeover. This is likely a paramount Warner Brothers merger. 353 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot associated whether we're gonna talk to Michael 354 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: Schnyder from Variety about this. It's a seismic change in media. 355 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: It is a growth in media that seems to be 356 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: flying in the face of like everything you'd be concerned 357 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: with when it comes to monopolies. You know, when it 358 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: comes to these mergers, we've really just let stuff go. 359 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what happened that you might have noticed. 360 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: And I think this is owing to these mergers. Also, 361 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: is there was a blood letting at Channel five that 362 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: KTLA Morning News. Mark Chrisky was laid off. They got 363 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: rid of this guy's been there since the beginning. He's 364 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: responsible for them being part of this meteoric rise that 365 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: they had at the beginning of that show when it 366 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: first went on the Iron Area. It was probably Sam 367 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: Rubin and Mark Chrisky who were most responsible for it. 368 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: I would say there was also, I think at the 369 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: very beginning, Barbara Beck, Carlos E. Meskua. I mean, don't 370 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: get me wrong, that whole combination works so beautifully. 371 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: They were. 372 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 3: They did numbers in the beginning that were, I don't know, 373 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: five times the Today's Show, five times Good Morning America. 374 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: Many more people watched the KTLA Morning News than watch 375 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: any of those network shows, particularly on the West Coast, 376 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: because you know, we're three hours behind her. Who wants 377 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: to see a warmed over morning show. So the last 378 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: of those people was Mark Chrisky, and he was there 379 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: still there doing the weather, still funny, still engaged, very dynamic, 380 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: and they dumped him. They dumped him, They dumped Lou Parker, 381 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: they dumped a few others. I don't have the names 382 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: in front of me. Deborah but you know many of 383 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: these people. 384 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: Lena Gobians is a reporter and a blonde. She's an 385 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 5: animal lover. 386 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, guess yeah, I can't stretch of the d. Sorry, 387 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to look the layoffs. There's so many of 388 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: them it's hard to keep track. But yeah, so I 389 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: mentioned it, and we'll get her name in a second. 390 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: And there were others too, I mean in the newsroom. 391 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: But the downsizing they're doing because they're choking on debt. 392 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: Next Dour has all of these stations. They did the 393 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: same thing in New York. They got rid of anchors 394 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: and these are high priced talent, and this is what's 395 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: happening across the board. So in the case of the KTLA, 396 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: in the case of the New York stations, and the 397 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: crazy really when this crazy case Montoya, case Montoya, that's it. Yeah, 398 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: the d is silent Casey Montoya. Yeah, these are really 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: talented people and they got rid of them because they're 400 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: just too expensive. 401 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: Now. 402 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 5: But I have a question, and I because I don't 403 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 5: know these people, maybe you do. I wonder if they 404 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: were offered instead of being laid off because they made 405 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: so much money, if they said, look, we want to 406 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 5: keep you but you guys make way too much money, 407 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 5: so we're gonna cut your salary in half? Are you 408 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 5: okay with that? If you're okay with that, you can stay. 409 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 5: If you're not well, then sorry, we have to let 410 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: you go. 411 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I don't know the answer in 412 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: this case, but I know that local talent already across 413 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: the board, all of them, all the high paid local talent, 414 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: has already taken that haircut. So I don't know if 415 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: there's much more to go. They may be in a 416 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: place where they go, you know what. It's sad, but 417 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: just got to get rid of them, you know what 418 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: I mean. I don't know the answer, though. My guess 419 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: is they didn't go to them and say, you know, 420 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: will you take less money? But I'll find out. I'll 421 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: find out, and I will report back to you. 422 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: And the kfis for real curious at that. 423 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: But I think I'm here next Friday so I can 424 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: actually literally report back to you. But I I think 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: it's a sign of what's happening in the industry, which 426 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: is why I mention it, because these are these are 427 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: companies that have been allowed to grow to the point 428 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: that they're choking on debt, and also they're dealing with 429 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 3: something else, and what is that? The complete change in 430 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: media and the landscape of media now takes the audience 431 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: and it attenuates it across all of these different platforms. 432 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: So they're gamers, there are streamers or up against and 433 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 3: so the available audience just is smaller. So that means 434 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: anything adds supported that on television is going to bring 435 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: in less money. Less money means we don't have the 436 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: money to pay Mark Krisky and all the rest of 437 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: these yews. That's how they say across the board New York, Chicago, LA. 438 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: Everybody's going who's making over a certain amount of money 439 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: and that's where you end up with. Now, the Paramount 440 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: deal is going to face the same thing because even 441 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: when Netflix was talking about its acquisition, they were talking 442 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: about having to shed sixteen billion dollars worth of staff 443 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: and other commitments in order to make the numbers work. 444 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: So this is stuff we kind of already have a 445 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: window on. Those are real people. You've got two studios, 446 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: Paramount and Warner Brothers. They do the same thing. Why 447 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: would you possibly have them operating as independent entities? They 448 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: say they're going to operate as independent entities. But I 449 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: think you say a lot of things before you actually 450 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: get in there. So all of that's happening. We'll talk 451 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: more to Michael Schneider about this, but I think it's 452 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: a sign, you know, it's really a sign of the 453 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: times in media and in Los Angeles generally. 454 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: That's why I mention it. In southern California, I. 455 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: Mean all of the other industries, all the dry cleaners, 456 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: the restaurants, et cetera. They depend on a robust entertainment 457 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: industry and it is changing dramatically. Mark Thompson here for 458 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: John Coblt where KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 459 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 460 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 461 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: John Coblts Show. Mark Thompson sitting in with the co 462 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 3: Belt Kids, Deborah, Eric Angels here, Ray Lopez Rock and 463 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: Roll Ray. So we will get into a little bit 464 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: of the Epstein stuff top of the hour. 465 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 2: I promised you i'd update you on. 466 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: That heist crew that ended up eloping in the middle 467 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: of their their string of heists, but I thought it 468 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: update you quickly on that. Do you remember the rate 469 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: of that jewelry store they tunneled into the jewelry store. 470 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: It was a pretty sophisticated Berkeley, right, did see me Valley. 471 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody remembers. It wasn't that long ago, 472 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: but I mean three members of this sophisticated burglary crew. 473 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: They you know, as I say, they tunneled in in 474 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: this jewelry heigh made away with I think it was 475 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: over two million dollars worth of jewelry. They were just sentenced. Yeah, 476 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: they broke through a rooftop and they we repelled down 477 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: with ladders. They disabled the surveillance cameras. They spent hours, 478 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: you know, drilling into this jewelry store safe and they 479 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: just got four years in Ventura County jail. Heidi Truhio, 480 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: she's twenty six, and Manuel David Ibara thirty eight, and 481 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: Camillo Antonio Aguilar Lara. You always know when they're using 482 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: all four names in a story about you, that you 483 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: got nailed on something. You've been arrested, somehow, rested, convicted 484 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: thirty two years old. So twenty six, thirty eight, and 485 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: thirty two each got four years and four months. There 486 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: was a fourth defendant and his sentencing hearing is still 487 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: to come. So they were charged in connection with this 488 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: elaborate heist. They broke into a candy and coffee shop 489 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: and Seemi Valley through the roof, and then they used 490 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: ladders and ropes to repel down, blacked out the surveillance cameras, 491 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: and stole cash from a safe. They then spent hours 492 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: boring a hole through a wall into the adjacent jewelry 493 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: and watch repair store. And that's where they broke into 494 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: another safe and they made off of jewelry, bullioned cash 495 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: and heirlooms. And I remember two in here. It is yeah, 496 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: two and a half million dollars in cash and inventory. 497 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: And I mean this is more than just cash and inventory. 498 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: This is a guy whose life was tied up in 499 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: the store. The jewelry store owner was this guy who's 500 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: been opened since the seventies. You know, his whole world 501 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: is this business. The contents of the safe not insured. 502 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: He estimated the store loss between two million and two 503 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: and a half million in cash and inventory. So they're 504 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: sentenced these four. 505 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: Right, Hey, we. 506 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 5: Have some breaking news. This is just happening right now. 507 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 5: The superintendent of the La School District, Alberto Carvallo, has 508 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 5: just been placed on administrative leave following that FBI raid 509 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: earlier this week at his home in the LA School 510 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: District headquarters. So this is just breaking right now. The 511 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 5: school board, they had a meeting yesterday, they had no decision, 512 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: They had another meeting to day, and he was put 513 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 5: on administrative leave this afternoon. 514 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an ongoing story. In fact, we're going 515 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: to get into it next hour. But they obviously seized 516 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: a bunch of materials associated with hard drives and other 517 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 3: things in which there might have been communications of one 518 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: sort or another. There has yet to be any kind 519 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: of real coherence to this, but it is a it's 520 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: a big story, and being put on administrative leave is 521 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: different than being charged. In fact, I thought you were 522 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: going to come on and say they've charged him. But 523 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: when you say he's been put on administrative leave, I 524 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: think that speaks to the predicament more than it speaks 525 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: to the situation. From a legal perspective. Again, I think 526 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: it's you know, Carvalla is in trouble, don't get me right. Administratively, yeah, 527 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: and don't get me wrong. I mean this is a 528 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: this is that whole chat bought Ai story in which 529 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 3: in essence as superintendent he was championing this technology, and 530 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: then it suggested or questioned, was there a sort of 531 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: collusion to force this technology onto LA schools. So this 532 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: is where this story gets more complicated. And again, guy 533 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: hasn't been charged. It's paid administrative leafs, so you know, 534 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: it might smell bad right now, but it hasn't yet 535 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: taken on a coherence that we can really speak to. 536 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: And for that reason, how dare you introduce? Interrupt me? 537 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I mean, this literally was happening, you know, 538 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: I was. I was writing it up. Ray wanted me 539 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 5: to break in. 540 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: How dare you Ray? I? Ray was behind this. 541 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 5: That was a good call, but I was busy, actually right. 542 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that it was a good call. 543 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: It was. 544 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 5: This is the biggest, biggest life. 545 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: No, it's a pretty big story. 546 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: It's a big and we've been I've been doing the 547 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: story all morning that the school board was meeting still, 548 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: so it's it's an importance story. 549 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 550 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: We still don't know all the details, but we know 551 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: he's on paid administrative leave. 552 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the second largest school district in the country, 553 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: so you know, and this is again, this is all 554 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: sort of being suggested that if this was a collusive 555 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: deal that was designed to force a hugely expensive, multimillion 556 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: dollar project down down the throat of taxpayers, it's a 557 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: It's a serious breach of ethics and a breach of 558 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: the law. So again, Superintendent Alberto Covlla on paid administrative leave. 559 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: I'll update the rest of the crime blodder later when 560 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: we come back. We'll update that story as it continues 561 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: this afternoon and still to come another day with Epstein testimony, 562 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: we'll get to some of that as well. 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