1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian. Now I want to know what engineer 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: in their right mind mounts something as delicate as a 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: fuse box and fusible links on top of a device 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: that's spews acid. The Car Doctor. A check engine light 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: only comes on if the vehicle is exceeding one and 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: a half times the federal emissions level. Welcome to the 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: take your calls. At eight and now he running. I 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: think the reason cars break in a lot of cases, 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: it's circumstance and situation. Hello and welcome Roninian the Car 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Doctor here at zero nine nine zero zero, here to 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: take your call, solve your problems, answer your questions whatever 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you might have on your mind regarding your automobile, your mechanic, 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: and anything automotive related. 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And I should also point 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: out that if you want to stream this radio show, 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: you can also you can stream it during live show 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: hours Saturday two to four pm Eastern Time, or you 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: can stream anytime day or night, and you can do 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: that right from our website, Car Doctor show dot com. 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I think cars break because of situation and circumstance. I've 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: been thinking about this lately. I had a two thousand 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: four nissanic Sterra come into the shop at our Automotive 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: this week and it was cut and dry repairs. It's 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: not a repair of the week worthy conversation. It's not 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: anything like that. The the issue with it was it 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: had a check engine light on in a P zero 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: four twenty, which is a CAT efficiency code and diagnosed 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: it and it's a bad catalytic converter on a two 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: thousand four Extera. There are two cats, and the one 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: we were concerned with was the one that is monitored, 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: or the one that the the O two centers worry about, 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: isn't other way of saying it is that the one 64 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: in the exhaust manifold, so that had to be changed. Well, 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: by the time you get done with that, it's a 66 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a catalytic converter. You're gonna use the one from 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the dealer because they're the ones that are gonna work. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: And a couple of O two centers. You're gonna spend 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: fift in parts, every bit of five in labor because 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: of all the rust and bolts and tapping and threading, 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: and it was like building a model. And I got 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: done with it, decided I wanted to run the monitors, 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: as I usually like to do when I finish an 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: emissions repair. So I went out to run the monitors 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: because I was planning to inspect the vehicle and during 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the course of road testing getting monitors to run, it's 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: set a pending fault code in the evaporative emission system 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: P zero four four two small leak. Mhm, look at that. 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Why is it doing that? Then I thought about I said, well, 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: let's see. It came in on an empty gas tank. 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: It came in the the yellow warning light was on 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: and the gauge was on. A because the person doesn't 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: like to put fuel in it, and I said, you know, 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I put gas in it because obviously I don't want 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: to get stuck on the road. I filled it up 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: halfway and I thought, maybe because now the monitor's gonna run. 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: Because keep in mind, if you're a regular listener, you 88 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: know you've heard me say that evaporative emissions monitors won't 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: run on the majority of cars between when it's less 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: than a quarter or more than three quarters of a tank. 91 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: It has to be between the three quarter one quarter mark. 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: But then I thought about and I said, no, that's 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: not the case. It just had to be the situation 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: on how she's driving, where she's driving and not taking 95 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: the right type of trips to actually allow the evapp 96 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: monitor run. Never got the code to set it came 97 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: up as pending. I did a little research, diagnosed it 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: and the gas tank was bad. The fuel tank rusted 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: away around the top where the sending unit sits, and 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: it's a really poor design. It really is. If you 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: look at the way Nissan designed this, the area where 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: the fuel tank, where the fuel pump sits into the 103 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: fuel tank, that that unit area is recessed, so it 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: goes down and it forms a little metal well in 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: the top of the tank, which is really great when 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: you think about it. You're driving down the road at 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: in rain, snow, slush, all the water gets up on 108 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: top of the tank and it falls into the well, 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: which is a recess and it lays there. So it's 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: a situation and a circumstance failure. It's the way the 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: engineer designed it, and I I this is one of 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: those moments where I say, why didn't they just make 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: it so that the it went the other way instead of, uh, 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, going in instead of an any it was 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: an auti. It was like your belly button. If it 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: was an auti, all the water wouldn't collect there and 117 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: it wouldn't rust. Now, but maybe Nissan like selling gas tanks. 118 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I understand they had recoils for these, but this one 119 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: fell out of the guidelines of it, so it needed 120 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: a fuel tank. Which is a difficult conversation to have 121 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: because you've just explained to the customer that you know, 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you've got a catalytic converter fault. And now they get it. 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: Now they and they understood, and they were they were 124 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: great about it. They really were. Um They realized that 125 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: it was just something that was there, But that wasn't 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: enough for me. I had to go back and dig 127 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. I went back and I started reading 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: through their file. About seven months ago, the vehicle came 129 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: in one time for a check engine light. Scanned it 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: P zero four or four two small leak. Now you're 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: faced with an issue. Here is a mechanic the gas 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: tank at that time, the fuel cap. I'm sorry, the 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: gas cap at that time wasn't on properly. It didn't 134 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: see right. So I screwed the cap on right there. 135 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I just purchased gas. They had put gats in at 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: that day. Do I recommend a diagnosis? Do I go 137 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: through a hundred and fifty six dollar chart to smoke 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: a system and go through the usual suspects and look 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: for an evapp leak that may not be there. Do 140 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I allow the vehicle to go back out and be 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: driven and if it is at fault, if you're driving 142 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: under normal conditions, normal circumstance, that light will come back on. 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I opted for that because I thought it would help 144 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: save them money. You know, that vehicle ran from early 145 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: April through October with no repeat, no failure, no repetitive 146 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: check engine light until it's set the cat fault, and 147 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: then after the cat fault the conditions were right. It 148 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: finally ran the EVAPP monitor and wouldn't you know, it 149 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: happened when I was driving it, and it started to 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: tell me impending four for two when it came up again. 151 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it really is all about circumstance and situations. And 152 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: when you look at it, if that engineer had only 153 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: made it an outy instead of an any that Nissan 154 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: repair sure would have gone a whole lot smoother. Something 155 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: to think about. Well, and welcome Ronning. They in the 156 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: car doctor here right five five zero nine zero zero. 157 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Some weeks at the shop, you just say to yourself, 158 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: how did I get into this situation? I started out 159 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: wanting to work on cars, and now it's just it's 160 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: just snowballs downhill and um, that's part of order repair. 161 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: It goes at the territory. It's like my friend Tim says, 162 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, getting bruised as part of 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the job, getting hit in the head as part of 164 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: the job. Um, having an additional problem as part of 165 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: the job, chickstig scars, band aids and bruises, and um, 166 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Tim is always right, and uh usually says the part 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: about getting hit in the head after working with me, 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: And that's a story for another day. I'll tell you 169 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: that story some day. But right now, let's pull over. 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a pause. Zero nine nine zero zero. I'm 171 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: running any in the car. Doctor will be back to 172 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: open the garage doors right after this. No no no, 173 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 174 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 175 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no. 176 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Welcome backing the car doctor, by the way. Stick around, 177 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: because down around the bottom of the hour, we're gonna 178 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: be talking to the folks from power Frame Batteries, talking 179 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the expected battery technology. 180 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: We'll not be expected, but battery technology as it's improved 181 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: over time. We're gonna talk about power frame grid technology, 182 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: but also a little bit of common sense on picking 183 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: a battery for this coming winter as um as we 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: go forward, and um it is getting colder out. So 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: I was looking at Big Tony when he come in 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: today from the train, and Tony was wearing his hat 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: as golatches, his overcoat a scarf. Almost didn't recognize him, 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: except for the fact that he had the Giants Beanie 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: on and um he was like, all pro the Giants 190 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: finally won a game. Way to go tone. Okay, let's 191 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Greg Greenwich, New York, two 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: thousand eleven Subaru and some issues with noise. Greg, Welcome 193 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. Sir, you're at zero nine nine 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: zero zero. How can I help the show time listener? 195 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. I I have the eleven of Forrester. 196 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I've got issues when I bought it at around nine 197 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: miles and not really issues, but just on startup on 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: the cold morning or any morning if it sits all night, 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: it uh has a great noise, almost like a stry. 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: It's not getting any oil pressure. And my neighbor of 201 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: mind did a all data scan and he says, oh, yeah, 202 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: that's coming up as the left hand tention er needs 203 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: to be changed out something to do with it's not 204 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: getting lubricated, which is great. But I said, I brought 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: it over to Bennington, Vermont subru and Glen's Falls and 206 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: in Saratoga all three dealerships. All that's fine, that's normal. 207 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: And I'm worried about having this motor die on me. 208 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: And we get ruined. You know. Let me let me 209 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: ask you this, Greg, when when you look at this 210 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: or when they when they look at this and you 211 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: talk to them, do you bring up the bulletin? Do 212 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: you have conference? Because you're right, there's there's actually two bulletins. 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: There's there's one that talks about and it's bulletin number. 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: You got a pencil, handy, Let me ask you that 215 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: real quick. Actually I don't okay, trying grab one while 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: we're talking. But if you get the bulletin o'too dish 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: one seventeen dish eleven r And if you download the 218 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: podcast of this radio show from car Doctor show dot com, 219 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: if you go to uh twenty after in the second hour, 220 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: you can hear me give that number again. It's o'too 221 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: dish one seventeen dish eleven r UM. There's issues with 222 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: the pivot and the rocker arm um that are creating noise, 223 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, it's not. It's non detrimental, as the 224 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: bulletin says, as I recall, but um, it is kind 225 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: of unsettling and it doesn't sound right. It sounds like 226 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: a rattiley clanky old pile of bolts, and I can't 227 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: imagine why anybody would want their engines to sound like that, 228 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: so that you can go back in the next year 229 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I want to buy another super Bro. 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to the noise. UM. So that's one 231 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: bullet in. The other bullet in his ten dash show, 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: seven dash eleven that's more common, and that's the one 233 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: that deals with the timing chain tention er. That one 234 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: also says this is non detrimental, which really boggles my mind. 235 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: They've come out with two bulletins that say, hey, it's 236 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: not a problem, but just in case you want to 237 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: spend money and fix it, here's the repair. Uh you 238 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: know it. To me, it's a mark on the company. 239 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: It's what Subaru is become in recent times. That um, 240 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: they've lost some of their edge for trying to make 241 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: people happy. And I realized there's a ton of just 242 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: loyal Subaru owners out there. They're just kind of follow 243 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: them along. But you know what, it's time to wake 244 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: up and stop drinking the kool aid, because to me, 245 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: this is something they should repair. It's it's it's an 246 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: obnoxious noise, right, Greg. I mean it bothers you exactly. 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: I mean other than the start up and then it 248 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: gets soil pressure. It's fine, as quiet as a mouse, 249 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: and other than that drives good. Other than you know, 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: when you don't put stutt of snows on it, like 251 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I found out, I would I would find an independent 252 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Subaru tech. You know, there are guys out there that 253 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: just specialize in Subaru uh you know, or even a 254 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: good quality independent shop that can deal with this particular 255 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: repair that's got whatever tools they might need and scan 256 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: tool support and so forth, and just let them fix it, 257 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: pay somebody to fix it, and move on. Because what 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Subaru doesn't realize what any what every manufacturer doesn't realize. 259 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: You like this car, don't you, Greg, But but this 260 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: noise is bothersome And this noise puts you one brick 261 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: away from going one am I driving this thing for 262 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: if anything else goes wrong with it, Because in the 263 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: back of your mind, subconsciously, you're thinking, maybe this isn't 264 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: such a great car. And now if something happens, if 265 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: the engine were to fail and it was somehow related 266 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: to all this, you'd be over the edge and and 267 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and that's bad, and it would prevent you from buying 268 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: another one car. Companies need to wake up and realize 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: that the buying experience doesn't stop when the warranty expires. 270 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: All right, sir, you're very welcome. Good luck to you. 271 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: Let me know if I can do anything else. Yeah, 272 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's crazy. They just you know, well, 273 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: warranty is up. That's it. Hould us back when you 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: want to write another check, though, will be glad to 275 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: try and take care of it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 276 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Stanley Ridgewood, New Jersey nine 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Cadillacs Fleetwood and some exhaust noises. Stanley, you around with 278 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, how can I help you A 279 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: zero zero? Yes, very much. I've had it since it 280 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: was brand new, and in the last few months I've 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: heard and smelled exosk and I brought it up to 282 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: a place where I I respect his work out been 283 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: there before, and he's made several unsuccessful tries to get 284 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: the league to stop it. Apparently a way up front 285 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: in the car, and he's made several attempts, and I 286 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: had each time bring it back because we're still hearing 287 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: a slight roar from the front and also we're smelling it, 288 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's at the end and doesn't know 289 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: what to do. Let me ask you, Stanley, is this 290 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: front wheel or rear wheel drive? It's real wheel. This 291 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: is a rear wheel. So this is the Is this 292 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: a five Leader or is this the um? Is this 293 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: one of the hteam motors? Which engine is in this? 294 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: It's probably the former, the former the five Leader? Yes, right, yeah, 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: ninety three. I'm trying to rub back tone. This is 296 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: a three or seven old motor. This is the wine motor, 297 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and it's probably a leak at the manifold where the 298 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: manifold comes together. Is he having issues with getting access 299 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: to things because bolts are rusting in the way or 300 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: is it a matter of parts or is it a 301 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: matter of is he on a budget? Are you just 302 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: saying to him, hey, fix my car. I don't care 303 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: what it costs, or fix my car and yes, it 304 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what, of course, do whatever has to be 305 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: done to get it fixed. Okay, like the car, and 306 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I enjoy driving the car, and um, yes so. But 307 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: he he has mentioned that it's a manifold problem, and 308 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that what you analyze is probably correct, right? 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Is it that he can't get 310 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: parts for it. I wonder, Um, I haven't said, I 311 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: haven't heard that. How long you've been going to this guy? 312 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Sounds like you got a relationship with him. Correct, Yeah, 313 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: it's time for that cup of coffee conversation. You know. 314 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a regular, listen, you've heard me 315 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: say that it's time to go in, and you know, say, listen, 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: I've been coming here a while. I realize it's a 317 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: tough problem. Um. Sometimes and I'll fall into this trap myself, 318 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, as mechanics were still human beings, we fall 319 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: into the trap of it's an old car, he doesn't 320 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: want to spend any money. Sometimes a mechanic needs to 321 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: be taken by the hand and look straight in the eye. 322 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: And you do this with somebody who got the relationship 323 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: with um, you know what it's it's a little more 324 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: complicated than that, because unfortunately the man who used to 325 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: work on my car all the time passed away. But 326 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: it seems that finding another person in the shop who's 327 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: familiar with this and knows what to do, I think 328 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe part of the problem. Well, and then in that case, 329 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: it sounds like this may not be the shop anymore. 330 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I can't you know what boggles my mind. If the 331 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: shop does that kind of work and you walk in 332 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and say, listen, I'm not opposed to spending money on this. 333 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Tell me what it's gonna take to do, and they 334 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: say we can't fix it. It's not worth fixing. First 335 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of all, it's not worth fixing is not their judgment 336 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: unless the car is there's extenuating circumstances, there's other things amiss, 337 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: there are other issues. If you're willing to pay the 338 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: freight and the card, you know not. I'm not gonna 339 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: say justifies, but it's in good enough condition that other 340 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: things aren't going to break as a result of trying 341 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: to fix the first thing. I mean, it's a matter 342 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: of fix it. I don't see what the big deal is. 343 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I have it, Like I said, I'd have a cup 344 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: of coffee, conversation with the owner and say, listen, before 345 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: I take it in my business somewhere else, what's it 346 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna take to get this done. I don't want to 347 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: leave here ten minutes and I'm not looking. I'm not 348 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: looking for that, Stanley, I'm really not. I'm trying to 349 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: get this guy to look at it. I'm trying to 350 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: maintain your relationship with him. I've never in all my 351 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: years on radio, you know, really tried to do that, 352 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and don't think anything different. But I would just have 353 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: a real candid conversation with him and just explain, you 354 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: know what, do you want to work on this or 355 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: don't you what's the issue? Now? If the engine has 356 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: to come out of the car and he doesn't want 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to do that, he's got to tell you that not 358 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: a lot of shops pull engines anymore, and that's that 359 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: could be part of the problem too. It could be 360 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: that the bolts are stuck in the exhaust manifold and 361 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to come out, and they have to 362 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: be drilled out of the heads, and then that becomes 363 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: an issue. But there's got to be a logical, clear 364 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: cut decision here as to why it can't get fixed. 365 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: To spending money to go nowhere, it makes about as 366 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: much sense as the government sometimes Stanley. Good luck, Tim. 367 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: If you need more help, you know where to find us. 368 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: A five five five six zero nine zero zero. Questions 369 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: about batteries, batteries one on one coming up next, I'm 370 00:18:38,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: roninading in the car. Doctor, don't go anywhere. Hey, listeners, 371 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on needing in the car doctor. You know, 372 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: this time of year, everybody's thinking with fall here and 373 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: winter approaching, it's battery time. It's time to look the 374 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: car over, the truck over and make sure it's ready 375 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: for winter and the cold weather ahead. And we thought 376 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: to bring out some of the finer points and some 377 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: of the optimal things you need to know regarding your 378 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: vehicle's battery. We've turned to the best, Michael Wholesome. Michael 379 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: is the manager of field sales for Power Solutions and 380 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: we're glad to have him here with us today. Michael, 381 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, sir. Thanks, I appreciate you having me in 382 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: UM Batteries. You know, let's get this out in the open. 383 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: There's two questions I want to ask you right at 384 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: the top of my head. Our battery is really a 385 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: full winter concern or is it more of a year 386 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: round event? Now? It really has become a year round event. 387 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: And if you look at how cars have developed over 388 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: the last ten years, becoming more electrical demanding. We have 389 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: more sophisticated you know, computer management systems, We have more 390 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: accessoryloads on cars, and we have i've ever had before, 391 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: so all that demand has has put more and more 392 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: stress on the battery. So you know, when we look 393 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: at a battery and we think what makes a battery tick, 394 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: for lack of a better word to to put it, um, 395 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: it's the grid, right, So why is the grid in 396 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: the battery? So gosh, aren't important? I think the listeners 397 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: need to hear this again. Well, in particular the positive grid. 398 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: And you know, if you think of that, that's really 399 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: the backbone of a battery. Uh, you know, that's where 400 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: you're you know, the positive grid is the delivery system 401 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: for electrical energy, but it's also extremely essential for the 402 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: recovery of the battery after it discharges. So a good design, 403 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: in a in a good manufacturing process is gonna you know, 404 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: make that battery better. So the positive grid gets compromised 405 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: by corrosion, and you know that's one of the leading 406 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: causes a battery failure. And corrosion comes from a couple 407 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: of different sources. It comes from repetitive cycling. We talked 408 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: about the high electrical demanding platforms. So that battery constantly 409 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: going in a in a discharge recharge cycle and then 410 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: you have heat heats a catalyst and it it accelerates 411 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the corrosion process and heat comes again from the charging cycle, 412 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: but it also you can take into account the ambient 413 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: temperature that's under the hood. So power frame technology is 414 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: designed to address these stress points and it gives you 415 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: up to sixty more corrosion resistance than other grid designs. Now, 416 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: two questions. How long has power frame grid technology been 417 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: available in consumer batteries? And the second part of that 418 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: question is I used to think, and I'm learning to 419 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: say that a lot in my career. I used to 420 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: think that the way to do things with this and 421 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: that when you when you purchase a battery by the 422 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: biggest battery electrically you can find. Is that still a 423 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: true statement? Also, you can answer them in either order. Well, 424 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll answer your first question, and it was, yeah, power 425 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: frame has actually been around for over fifteen years. Uh. 426 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: It was developed through field testing using taxi cab fleets 427 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, which you can imagine is some of 428 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: the harsh's partial driving conditions, and it accelerated you know 429 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: the real life of the life of a battery. Um. 430 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, the you know, you know, the days of 431 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: picking a battery by coal cranking amps. If you think 432 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: about you know, back twenty thirty years ago when we 433 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: actually had a crank a car and you would you know, 434 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: the ignition had to work for ten fifteen seconds before 435 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: the car would start. Now, ignition systems are so efficient 436 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: that it's it's a flick of the wrist or a 437 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: push of the button and there's not as much demand 438 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: on the starting. But now it has to do with 439 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: how will that battery laughs in these repetitive cycling applications. Sure, 440 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean look at start stop technology now right, the 441 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: car starts in the blink of an eye sitting in 442 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: a traffic light or stop sign, and that the battery 443 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: has no no real load on it compared to something 444 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: thirty years ago because of of the way the vehicles 445 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: are today. So yeah, that that may perfect sense. So 446 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: vibration is still an issue though, right, I mean, let's 447 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: talk about that, the effects vibration has on a battery. 448 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: Does how does or does power frame grid technology help 449 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: prevent the bad part of vibration? Bad vibrations The beach boys, well, 450 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we can equate vibration to hitting 451 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: potholes and I'm sure we've all hit our share of 452 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: those while we're driving, and that impact will have a 453 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: detrimental effect on the battery, and one that some of 454 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: the active material we call paste on the grid will 455 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: shed off, and enough of that will impact the capacity 456 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and the life of the battery. But also when we 457 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: talked earlier about the corrosion of the grids and what 458 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: that corrosion does, it weakens the structure and vibration can 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: then fracture some of these these areas of the grid 460 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that show signs of fatigue, and if that happens, that 461 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: can lead to short circuits in the battery, and it 462 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: also diminishes the capacity of the battery. So the manufacturing 463 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: process of power frame is basically taking a bar of lead, 464 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: rolling and compressing that lead composite to a precise thickness 465 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: and in that density of that material then will resist 466 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: corrosion and metal fatigue. But also you know where the 467 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: power frame comes from. It it has a reinforced frame 468 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: around the grid itself and that protects the frame from warping, 469 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: and that also leads to short circuits. So basically, paraframe 470 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: grid technology is that better mouse trap that everybody's looking for. Absolutely, yeah, 471 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this something we don't talk 472 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: about a lot here on the car doctor power frame 473 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: manufacturing the way they make power frame grid technology, if 474 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: I can say it that way, but power frame manufacturing plants, 475 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I understand, operate and produced fewer greenhouse gases. That's correct. 476 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: So if you look at the you know, the conventional 477 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: uh you know way of making grids was casting. So 478 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: that grid casting required the melt lead down and pour 479 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: that molten lead into into molds. Well, that process of 480 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: melting lead contributes to the releasing of gases into the environment. 481 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: So when I talked earlier about the power frame rolling 482 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: out let into a strip and then it gets stamped 483 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and all that material that gets punched out is then recycled, 484 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: so there's no uh no gases that are coming from 485 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: melting down the lead and all the waste is recycled, 486 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: so you know, the eliminates greenhouse gases during the manufacturing process. Wow, 487 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: it sounds like a win win on all sides between 488 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: the technology and the way they're made. It's good for 489 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: the environment, it's good for the vehicle, and it's good 490 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: for the consumer. You can't complain about that. Um, how 491 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: do the consumers determine what has power frame good technology 492 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: and doesn't what brand aftermarket batteries use it well. Currently, Uh, 493 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: power Frame is found in battery sold by Advanced Auto 494 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Parts in their car Quest locations. So all you have 495 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: to do is look for that power Frame logo on 496 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the label and at Advanced Auto Parts stores that you 497 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: can find that in their Golden Platinum line of batteries 498 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and at car Quest and their silver Golden Platinum. Um 499 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: listen neat stuff. I think, Uh, it's got to be 500 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: comforting for people to know they have alternatives and there 501 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: are ways to improve on their next battery purchased by 502 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: what they can buy. They can buy into the better 503 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: technology now. So if yeah, if you want to find 504 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: a retailer near you, just go to power frame dot 505 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: com and you can search for the closest location. Right. Yeah, 506 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: that was my next question, is um, is there a 507 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: place the listeners can go? Say that again? Give that 508 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: to me again when we're tab dot com and and 509 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: there's a search function for finding the nearest retailer. Cool beans, Hey, 510 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Mike calls them. We appreciate you taking the time today 511 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and helping inform the listenership, and then we'll have you 512 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: on again real soon. You take good care, have a 513 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: good rest of the day. Thanks. I appreciate it. You're 514 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: very welcome. I'm runing any in the car Doctor, and 515 00:26:53,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: we are back right after this. I ain't ever being 516 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: with the woman. Hey, welcome back. Why don't you need 517 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor hitting it hard and getting through the hour? 518 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Joined me as we continue this trip together, talking about 519 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: your automobile here at zero nine zero zero. Next up 520 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: is Robbie from Valhalla, New York, with some questions and comments. Robbie, 521 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. How can I help? How 522 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: are you doing all right? How are you so I'm 523 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: not fit? I don't know rainy sun Saturday? Yeah, sure so. UM. 524 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: I sent in an email and I've got two part questions. UM, 525 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: I have a number of personal vehicles and then I've 526 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: also got company vehicles as well. And what I'm really 527 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: looking forward for is that will suffice majority of my 528 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: needs for majority of the vehicles. And good the cars range, 529 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, across the board, from high end to regular, 530 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, for trucks, right, And that's and that's why 531 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you. I've got your email 532 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: in front of me, Robbie. Just every just so we're 533 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: all on the same page. UM. It's quite a list 534 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the family vehicles are, you know, two thousand six BMW, 535 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven Mini Cooper, two thousand eleven Ranger over Toyota, 536 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Mercedes seventy two charger of fifty four to seventy two 537 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Mercedes business vehicles for trucks, Dodge Truck's, Nissan, and of Volkswagen. 538 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Oh you got one of those folks, Wagan TV eyes. Yeah, 539 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: good luck, Good luck with that, my friend. Um. Um, yeah, 540 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, either that or they've got this phenometer doctor 541 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: and you don't know the difference. That'll be the next 542 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: thing that comes out. That's that'll be it. Um. The 543 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: scan tool I had in mind because I wanted to 544 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about this. I thought it was a good conversation. 545 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, you have that eclectic collection of vehicles. It's 546 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: it's easy for a scan tool manufacturer to come up 547 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: with something that will work on the Ford, the GM 548 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: the Chrysler. That doesn't impress me. It's you need the 549 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: scan tool that'll do the BMW, the Mini Cooper, the 550 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: Range were over, the Mercedes. Those are the tough ones here, 551 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: all right, and without breaking the bank and spending you know, 552 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: upwards of ten to twelve thousand dollars, which is probably 553 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: out of the question. I'm kind of thinking, Um, I 554 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't make I wouldn't make you spend that 555 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: much money anyway, because I want you to go out 556 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: and buy another car. I want to see how big 557 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: we can get the fleet up to in the next 558 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: year or two. I think it's interesting the way this 559 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: is growing. Um, yes, I can tell I'd like to 560 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: see the size of your garage. Um. You know, I'm 561 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: thinking you want to go to launch tech USA dot 562 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: com and look at the launch scan tools, specifically the 563 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: CRP two nine Android based touchscreen. All right, good solid tool. 564 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: It'll pull codes, it'll give you a data stream. They've 565 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: got great tech support. It's if memory serves me correct. 566 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: And I tend to get a little confused on pricing, 567 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: so don't hold me to this. I think it's in 568 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: the four to six arrange. It might be a little less, 569 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: it might be a little more, but it's definitely well 570 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: under a grand from my from what I remember when 571 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: I read about it, and I actually have one in 572 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: the shop I use as a door tool. Now, uh, 573 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it also does some of the other 574 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: things that a lot of the other scan tools won't 575 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: do oil light resets, it'll do steering angle resets. Because 576 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking maybe somewhere down in the future you're 577 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna have need for some of that off. So, and 578 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: the way launch works, they're always making improvements and changes 579 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: their software updates. I find her second to none. The 580 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: tool does it by itself. It's logging in and bang 581 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: away it goes. So take a look at launch Tech USA, 582 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: give them a call. You know, the only complaint I 583 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: have about launch Tech is some of their English is 584 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: pigeon English for lack of a better way to put it. Uh, 585 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just it's kind of written funny 586 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: and it catches your head and you go, huh um. 587 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what I can overlook that that's 588 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: like one per cent out of it the entile the 589 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine nine percentile of the launched tools, And it 590 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: doesn't affect how they work. They just flat out work. 591 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: So definitely worth looking at. What's the second part of 592 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: yours and tool? Um, when you say it's Android based, 593 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: does that mean I need to have an Android? Nope, 594 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: that's just no, that's just the operating system. This is 595 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: a complete self there is a complete self contained unit, 596 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: and if memory serves me correct, the CRP two nine 597 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: from Launch will have the BMW and the Mercedes connector 598 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: if not, verify that with them. What does it take 599 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: to get and what's the additional cost? And tell them 600 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: what you've got, tell them your list, what would they recommend? 601 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: And they'll be very glad, you know, I'll say this. 602 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: They are very proud company. They're always glad to help 603 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: their customers and they're always glad to make recommendations. You'll 604 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: find more launch tech USA dot com. Second part of 605 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: the question. So I have the seventy two charger. It's 606 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: got a four for you in it right not it's 607 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: not very well worked on. It's probably taken out of 608 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: an RV or a truck or something and somebody put 609 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: it in this really beautiful, beautifully restored you seventy two charger. 610 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: And I've got it down at a shop not too 611 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: far from where you are in Boonton, and it just 612 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: seems as though someone's fishing for some things, you know. 613 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: I've had it there for almost two months, a little 614 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: over two months now, and and I went to pick 615 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: it up two weeks ago and it was having trouble 616 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: when they were pulling out of a garage. When they 617 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: were it was having trouble idoling right, and it was 618 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: like almost like a miss or. It was flooding or 619 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was more flooding because I could smell 620 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: the fuel at the end of the I'll tell you what, Robbie, 621 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: hold that thought. Because I'm gonna be tied against the clock. 622 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to rush this. Let me pull over. 623 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: Take this. Plus, stay right where you are man on 624 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. We're back right after this. 625 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Look back, weren't nating the car doctor. Let's get right 626 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: back to our call. Robbie from Valhalla, New York. Robbie, 627 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, Yes, sir, okay um, if you 628 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: could finish that and then let me get to an 629 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: answer before the clock takes us. Go ahead. So the charger, um, 630 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: and it seems like it was flooding, flooding fuel. Long 631 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: story short. They they're telling me that they've replaced the 632 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: fuel pump multiple times with a with a new pump 633 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: that obviously new is never ever worked. That's right, so um, 634 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: so they've replaced it four times now and now he's 635 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: telling me that it might be a fuel regulator as 636 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: well well. And I have a couple you know, the 637 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: other cars that have car breakers on him, none of 638 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: them have fuel regulators out. Yeah, why would you need 639 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: a regulator on this car? I have no idea. I 640 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: think you know that. And it's it seems like someone's 641 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: just fishing, or they don't know, or they did something 642 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: that they actually messed up whatever was actually working because 643 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: they didn't have any of these problems before. Right, Well, 644 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: I could I could buy that. You know, dirt in 645 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: the system is causing the needle to flood and you know, 646 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: causing the car up to drip and creating a flooding 647 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: out issue. And I guess what he's thinking is high 648 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: fuel pressure is pushing the needle off its seat. But 649 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: then what type of a fuel pump is he putting 650 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: in it? That doesn't make any sense to me. Listen, 651 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: older car. You gotta go back to basics. And what 652 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: I would probably do is the fact that the car 653 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: sat a couple of months, and maybe it's sat a 654 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: little bit before you gave it to him. How clean 655 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: is the fuel? Is there contaminant in the fuel, and 656 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: then work your way forward. If the fuel system is clean, 657 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: if the fuel sample is clean and he's having problems 658 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: getting the pumps, there's good pumps out there. You've got 659 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: to find them good good manufacturers. To go through four 660 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: pumps and have the same repetitive problem. You know the 661 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over 662 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: again expecting different results. I think it's something like that. 663 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: I think that's insane. So I would sit down and 664 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: have a conversation with him, and if you have to 665 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: pay MS, go and get it out of there and 666 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: get it to somebody that can diagnose it and repair it. 667 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: Because it sounds like this guy's going down to the 668 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: long path. I'm on any in the car doctor, reminding 669 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you m