1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Welcomes drive John with Ashlyn Sulis, John Oshan, Why inserted 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Jags right? John starts right now? Oh yeah yeah, just 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the way he I think you can always tell the 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: way um a coach communicates with it. With a quarterback, 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: you know they could because he's been in my shoes. So, um, 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks interesting position. It's not a big ra ra you know, 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: choose somebody out. I mean some you know, you have 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: some coaches that all like that. But for me, that's 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: just not what That's just not what I need. I 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: can have a conversation and coach Peterson is great about that, 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: and every play he gives you a piece of feedback 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: that another coach might not give you just because he 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: knows what it's like and it's something little that he 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: might see that someone else doesn't see. So having the 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: head coach be able to step in, even today, a 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: couple of times, three or four times after a play 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: he'll come over and give me a little give me 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: a little tip or whatever. And just having a head 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: coach that can do that and really really knows what 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: he's talking about. It is cool. Head coach Dog Peterson 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: and to back Trevor Lawrence working together on the field 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: the first day of O T S yesterday second A 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: to day and that's something that Trevor Lawrence talked a 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: lot about when coach Peterson was hired, that this guy 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: gets it, he played the position. Now we're kind of 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: seeing that come to life on the field. Welcome into 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, and John Ausier 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: here with you recapping day one of O T A S. 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: We have some things to talk about. John will say 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: not a lot, because it was a little boring at times, 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: but next moments we have some highlights. Um before we 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: go the highlights. I was trying when we when we 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: recorded Jaguars Reporters yesterday to put towards the how I 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: felt watching Trevor yesterday. And I know that he's still 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: a young player, but there was a veteran or a 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: presence about him and just the way that he conducted himself. 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: And it's not something where you can check off a list, 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, is posture any of that and stuff. It's 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: just the way that he went about his business and 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: the way that he interacted with the coaching staff. He 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: felt like a much more veteran player than you would 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: expect and Johnny think that makes sense because last year 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: he was a much more veteran player in his first year. Yeah, 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: he's and we'd expect. He's so talented. He makes different 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: throws than the other guys. Dude, I'm not putting a 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: knock on C. J. Bethort Or or Perry. But when 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Trevor goes back to pass, he passed usually go fifty 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: yards more downfield because he's seeing it. He has the 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: arm to make that throw. Uh. And you know, I 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: kind of laughed at at the outside with Trevor's quote 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: that Doug's walked in his shoes. I think Doug would 52 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: laugh too and say, well, you know, then't walking starters shoes. 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: But but he does speak the same language. And uh, 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I think for a young quarterback. You know, there was 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: all the talk all season who they should have hired, 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was Byron. There was this there was 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: this um. Has it felt for a second since Doug 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: Peterson was highed that he's not the right guy? No? Um? 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: And maybe some of it's the press conferents, you know, 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: And when Trevor started talking about it yesterday, the quarterback 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: language they both speak, the development the young quarterback. Uh boy, 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I knew it before, but it just stood out. And 63 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: two or three things of practice where Doug in Doug's 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: way can go over and say, hey, on this, the 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: safety moved. He saw that, right, you know, and coolly 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: he does it. But I can't help but think this 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: is the right guy in Trevor's here. Absolutely, And we 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: got asked the question, okay, well, why was Trevor so 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: impressive an ot A practice? And it is. It is 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: hard to describe how different he is. I think just 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the way he carries himself. And that's not to say 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: he didn't last year, because last year we were staying 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: the same thing. Wow, how impressive is this guy? But 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the difference is drafting and it's hard to been his 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: team since he got here. But everybody who watches this 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: except someone on the street, has never had a job. 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: We'll tell you your first year and a job, it 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how good you are, It doesn't matter how 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: well prepared you are then, and if you're the starter 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: your first year in a job, there are things you 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: don't know and things you don't expect. Once O t 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: A started all of a stud and Trevor could walk 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: in and go I've seen this before, and even if 84 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't verbalize it, it's there. He knows now that 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to prove to people he's the guy. 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: Everybody on the team knows he's the guy. They knew 87 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: it last year, but the second year guy, it feels different. 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: I just say this. We knew last year that he 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: was transcendent as a rookie in terms of how he 90 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: handled the media, how he handled the situations around the team. 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: We've learned since then exactly what he went through and 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: how it went for him last year. For him to 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: finish as strong as he did and go through that, well, 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise that he's starting strong here too. 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: And not to mention, I almost forget last year at 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: this point that he was in a quarterback battle. Do 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: we recall that that battle that went on for a 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: couple of months. Yea, let's get into big things. Big 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: thing one is Travis is back running back. Travis etn 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: back on the football field for the first time since 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: last pre season when he had that list Frank injury, 102 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: and that injury was so severe that we couldn't help 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: but have the questions, will he ever get back on 104 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: the field and what will we look like when he 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: does so very exciting to see him back. And now 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson has a good problem of a couple 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: of running backs and trying to find them in the rotation, 108 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, be cleared for for everything. He's been doing 109 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: really well through the whole off season program and and uh, 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're still going to monitor, you know, and 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: make sure that he's he's We don't want to have 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: any setbacks at this this stage. But he's been doing 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: really good and obviously getting snoop, you know, caught up 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: to speed and rock and the guys, you know, and 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: it's just it's just a matter of this is the 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: time to let these guys play a little bit, you know, 117 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: to see um, see exactly what you what you have 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: one in the camp. Big things to his defensive line 119 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: improvements after was a winner of O t s yesterday. 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: It was the defensive line bringing a lot of intensity, 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: a couple of sacks, a couple of past breakups, and 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: you could tell they were very happy to be on 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: the field together, especially some of the new guys like 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: free agent full lrons who Fatakasi who was in the 125 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: starting lineup and Christian Kirk didn't exactly mind their loudness. 126 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, it definitely helps, especially during o t as uh. 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, it can be easy because you know, we're 128 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: we're not working towards the game on Sunday, so it 129 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: can be easy to come out here and be a 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: little lax. But for each side holding each other accountable, 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: accountable energy wise, in the competitive juice is going. You know, 132 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: we're we're professional, so it takes you know, one raw 133 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: ra play and we are ready to go. And big 134 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: thing three is offensive line evaluation. What we can tell 135 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: in this period where you can't tell a lot is 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: where the offensive line is lining up. Walker Little was 137 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: at left hapfle yesterday, but that was because Cam Robinson 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: was not at practice. Ben Barts was at left guard. 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley getting starting center reps. So now at the 140 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: time where ourselves and Coach Peterson will pay extra attention 141 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: to that. It's hard, you know, because you eat, these 142 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: guys are protecting each other, so it's it's full speed. 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time we're not you know, we're 144 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: don pads on right, just helmets and um It's it's hard, 145 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: but you can you can kind of see how guys 146 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: are retaining information the subtle adjustments that the old line 147 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and D line are making in a live you know, 148 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: action against each other. Um, you really can't fully dive 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: into it. Probably still training camp when when when you 150 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: can really hit and the pads come on. But you 151 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: know this is good too from the standpoint of just 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: executing um our plays offensively and defensively. And I think 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: getting some good UM evaluations that way, which is how 154 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: well these guys are retaining information. And there you have it. 155 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: That was our big things. Let's go back up to 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: big things one. I think it's most notable of yesterday. 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: Travis c t n back on the field, something we've 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: been waiting a long time for. We mentioned it on 159 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: the Reporter podcast yesterday that it got to the point 160 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: where this is the first round draft pick and you 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: almost sadly forgot about him last year because we just 162 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of him and now you have 163 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: this weapon at you didn't see at all last year. Yeah, 164 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean he got hurt pretty early in the process too, 165 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like we had a full run through 166 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: the preseason to get a look at him. Um, we didn't. 167 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I didn't see anything yesterday That made me go, oh right, 168 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: because I didn't expect him to do that. Other than 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't hold back, it didn't look 170 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: like there was a bubble around him. He was running 171 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: between the tackles, he was working all of the drills. Um, 172 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, you heard Doug say, this is where you 173 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: monitor him. You make sure that he's able to go 174 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the next day, that you're on the field, and that 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: you're not pushing too hard through this. But get him 176 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: back into some football shape and get him into a 177 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: position where you've got him during training camp. But so far, 178 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: considering the injury he had John and what we know 179 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: about that injury and what it's done to other running 180 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: backs that we've covered, Um, it's a good sign. Well, 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: it's probably understandable that people forgot about him in the NFL. 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: When you're hurt, you're not part of the team. I mean, 183 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: it's it's a cruel business that way. But every player 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: you talked to talks about feeling of loss when they're 185 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: not a part of it. Um, you know, I get 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: what we do is talk, So we have to talk 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: about this. He'd been cleared quite a while back. That 188 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: was the first time we've seen him. Um. I was 189 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: glad to see him not favoring anything. It didn't look 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: like there was anything wrong I think with that, with 191 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: the offensive line, with everything. The reality is once training 192 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: camp comes on and you're having to go every day, 193 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't expect them to rest Travis during O T 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: A S. It'll be interesting during training camp when there's 195 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: some contact when he runs through a hole and he's 196 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: hit and there's some strain on that foot. Strains when 197 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I do when I do this, and you know, I 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: think that'll be the tell is when he has to 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: start putting NFL type pressure on that foot. So far, 200 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: so good, that's all you can ask right now. Well, 201 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: and he's the explosive guys, who's gonna put the foot 202 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: in the ground and go right uh. That's what you 203 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: do when you go that's fast and go uh. And 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: we didn't see yesterday, and we won't see that until 205 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe a preseason game where you're able to legitimately see 206 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: him put that in the ground and explode. James Robinson 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: working off to the side yesterday, but present as well 208 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: as Jamal ag Knew really involved in kick returner drills. 209 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: So you see those guys working back and we can 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: expect both of them for training camp as well. And 211 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm miffed about this whole theme that the defensive 212 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: line had this great day yesterday they did. Why Why 213 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: do you think they did not? Because it's even Trevor 214 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: said it. There's a certain pace you play at in O. 215 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: T A s U. And they notched it up. I 216 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: think it was clear the defensive line kind of went 217 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: after a little bit. I'll worry about the defense of 218 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: an offensive line when there's pads on and they're going 219 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: one on one and training, it's okay to not get up, 220 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: it's fine. But but when you've got the when you've 221 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: got the media who were reporting on it, who are 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: making a big deal of it, then Trevor is right 223 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to point out, hey, you know what, it's just tempo here. 224 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: They're going a little harder. Fine, but it wasn't like 225 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: we were regressing, like they were drilling us. And and 226 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: that's the point that I'm worried about the pick though, Brian, 227 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: I am, I am worried about I was in public 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and the guy came up to me breathlessly wanting 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: to talk about something he had read on social media, 230 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: and I went due. Relax, it's not a big deal. 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: It's practice. And by the way, Davon Hamilton's made a 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: really good play. So so when you have a team 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: working against each other, one guy makes a great play, 234 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: one guy makes a bad play. I mean, it just 235 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: happens that way. The media is going to focus on 236 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but nobody even really talked about the fact 237 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: that Hamilton's didn't have a good year last year. Nice 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: to see him make a play in O t A right. 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I think what was cool, and when I took away 240 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: from the defensive line is even without Trayvon Walker, who 241 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: had a personal issue and he wasn't here. They when 242 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: you start lining up that front with Lloyd Allen and 243 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: the guys they're bringing back, smooth is a good, good, 244 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: very very good, serviceable player. You had Walker. To that, 245 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: you add the free agent who's whose name slim? Yeah, 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: that guy. Um, you know, they certainly look far stouter 247 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: than they have since two Thousen when I wrote this 248 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: yesterday in the camp servation. But J two Filey is 249 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the first guy saw well. He was somebody for whom 250 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: high expectations were set out when they drafted him. And 251 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: right there next to him is Malcolm Brown, who's another 252 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: guy who played in rotation, was a big first and 253 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: second down contributor last year. There's a lot of names 254 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: of quality players along that defensive line. So when we 255 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: get to camp and they get into pass rushing full 256 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: pads and we start looking at this group, people are 257 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna go, Wow, They've got more talent, more depth there 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: than I remembered. There are big guys in the middle 259 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: who can contribute here. Failey's a guy. What about forgotten right? 260 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Travisy tn to Filey was a guy who kind of 261 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: fell down last year. All sudden feel way better about 262 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: the defensive line just from watching practice yesterday and seeing 263 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the names on the depth chart. It's just it's just, frankly, 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: way more guys look like they have the depth, uh 265 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: to come atche in waves and U. I don't think 266 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: this is on our our list to talk about. But 267 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen talked after practice stay there three or four 268 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: of us talking to him, and then after it's it's 269 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: sort of stopped. Uh. He was asked about Treyvon Walker 270 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's a physically impressive human being, even for 271 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. He used the word freak to describe Traylon Walker, 272 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: and uh, there was some giddiness when Josh talked about Trayvon. 273 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Obviously he Josh understands as well as anybody there are 274 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: things a rookie has to do. But Josh Allen is 275 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: pretty long arms, and all you can talk about was 276 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:55,119 Speaker 1: Traybon's arm length and his potential and his ability. Uh, 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: he thinks the kids are gonna be really, really good. Well, 278 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: he's got enormous hands. At the end of those thirty 279 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I've inch arms. I mean, it's it's amazing what he 280 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: can do next to Josh Allen if they put him 281 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: in the right spot real quick before we go to break, 282 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: because this was something I was watching yesterday with Caleb 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and Chase. I'm playing opposite Josh Allen. How do we 284 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: think that works out in that rotation when Walker is back? 285 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: When Calvan Chason is a guy that was such a 286 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: high draft pick, and we always asked, he's going to 287 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: reach the potential of Calvan's gotta earn it. I mean, 288 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: I have a position to do that. I really like 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: a Caleb and I've only talked to him via social 290 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: media via video conference. He's got talent. I wonder if 291 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: he's more of an off the ball guy than a 292 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: pure pass rusher. I also for his point of view, 293 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and he'd be the first one to tell you because 294 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: he has always been his approach and I've heard him speak. 295 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: He knows he's gotta do better. He knows he hasn't 296 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: performed up to his draft status. But from his point 297 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: of view, you've got a new coordinator coming in. All 298 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: history is clean, So I don't think they're going to 299 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: look at this premium talent and say, hey, we don't 300 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: want it. But he's got to prove it. And we 301 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: all remember the Giants when they beat Tom Brady and 302 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: that undefeated season. You know they had Matthias Kiwanuka rushing 303 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: off the edge and they were rolling in Justin Tuck 304 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: and that was a great pass rushing team. You can 305 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: never have enough. Guy's a first round talent. Uh, They've 306 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to make it work. 307 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,239 Speaker 1: And all you'll hear is, well, it's competition. We have competition. 308 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: There's enough snaps, and that's a real thing when you 309 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: had a new staff. Now, no, totally, I mean they're 310 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: they're looking at what he has or hasn't done. But 311 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: more importantly, They're looking at what he's capable of and 312 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: saying to themselves we have to get it out of him. 313 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Always good to have options without a doubt. You're gonna 314 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: need a lot of pass rushing and that is big 315 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: things when we come back. The biggest question going into 316 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: O T S from us here on the jag Oristygral network. 317 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: You got when you got a guy like Trevor, Uh, 318 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: it's not hard at all. You know, he's got all 319 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: the tools um athletically and to play that position. But 320 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, as a person, you know, he a great guy. 321 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: He has a relationship with all the guys in the 322 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: locker room, including our receivers, and a lot of communications 323 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: open and he just wants to be great and uh, 324 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: like I said, that's one of my goals. And you know, 325 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: being brought here to help him develop and be the 326 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: best that he can do as well. My receiver Christian 327 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Kirk on how tough is it to get the timing 328 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: down with a new quarterback like Trevor Lawrence And he 329 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: laughs and says, not at all. Welcome back to Jaguar's 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Drive time a guy like Christian Kirk is. Everyone's very 331 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: excited to see him on the football field, and we 332 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: were watching Trevor and Christian walkout on the practice field 333 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: together and he just couldn't help Like Gottle giddy inside. 334 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: That's a pair that we want to do really well here. 335 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: There were some nice catchers. Was giddy, but you were giddy. 336 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: You just don't want to admit it. Um. I was impressed. 337 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Um again, I want to temper my impressed this into 338 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: training camp. But there were some moments a Christian Kirk 339 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: uh because of the contract, because he hadn't put up 340 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: incredible numbers in Arizona. There's so much talk about it 341 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: was he worth this that that I he really good 342 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: things about his work ethic are good things from people 343 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: who around him in Arizona about what he's going to 344 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: be able to bring. Uh. I think he's gonna help 345 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: this roster. Uh. He better for eighteen million, right, but 346 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I think the speed and the quickness. Uh. 347 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a one, Brian, but I 348 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: certainly think that he is a guy who in this 349 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: group of receivers they've got, is going to matter and 350 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: is going to force defenses to account. Frame Well, I 351 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: don't know if he's a one either, but he's gonna 352 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: be the one. You know, They're just gonna be that 353 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: relationship between him and the quarterback. In fact, Trevor talked 354 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: about playing golf with him on a regular basis, so 355 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: clearly they're working that angle. You know what's interesting is 356 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: people talk about how much money he was paid. Um, 357 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, shortly after they paid him the eighteen million 358 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: a year the quarter the wide receiver market exploded and 359 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: went up to twenty seven million dollars a year. So 360 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: is he overpaid? Well, you have, but all free agents 361 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: are Are they paying top of the market? No, not anymore. Um, 362 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: that's not going to change people's impression. It's just an 363 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: obvious fact that he is a highly paid receiver. He's 364 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: not the highest paid receiver, and I think that he 365 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: will deliver in this offense. He's effortless as he moves, 366 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: he really is. He's fun to watch. He's so athletic 367 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: and and he knows where he's going and what he's doing. 368 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: And Trevor alluded to that that the way that he 369 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: reads a defense was really important for Trevor's ability to 370 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: develop that timing with him, because it seems like they're 371 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: on the same page. He sees what kirksies and vice versa. Yeah, 372 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: the overpaid thing annoys me. Not gonna lie, That's why 373 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I brought it up. He's not the top of the market. 374 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: If help be paid in her life, I am always 375 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: so I'm team overpaid. But if he helps this wide 376 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: receiver and one, it's not your money, so why do 377 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: you care? And too, if he makes room better? How much? 378 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: If it costs that much, it costs that much? Well, 379 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I saw a guy they wanted. They went exactly and 380 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I've talked to people in Arizona who say the guys 381 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: are really good football player. He was going to get paid. 382 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: The Jaguars knew that it was going to cost something 383 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: to get him, so they went out and made sure 384 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: they got him. Absolutely. So we have a lot of 385 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: questions going into this offseason and O t A s 386 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: and we've delivered our our top three, but we probably 387 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: have like ten questions. But our top three questions going 388 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: in to this O t A season. Brian what he 389 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: got for us? So where is Walker Little going to play? 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: Because it's clear watching his feet yesterday that the guy 391 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: is a very good athlete. He's a big body with 392 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: long arms. You know, He's the thing that we saw 393 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: last year watching him in past rush drills. He is 394 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: a very talented player and he is one of your 395 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: top five offensive lineman. I have no doubt about that. 396 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know whether he's you know, two or three. 397 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: You figure it out. He's got to be on the field. 398 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: He's one of your best five. So where is he 399 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna play? I think he's your right tackle because I 400 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: have said a long that I believe that you want 401 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: is going to be better playing inside. Now it doesn't 402 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: appear that they're moving you want inside. He didn't get 403 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: any reps there. But if Cam Robinson's your left tackle, 404 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: where is Walker Little going to play? He belongs on 405 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I ain't He'll wind up playing right tackle. 406 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: It just sort of adds up. You drafted him last year, 407 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: he's he's a second round pick. Joan has struggled at times. Uh, 408 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I think Walker a little 409 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: is going to earn his way onto the field. Um. 410 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: So again, there's a lot of consternation over this among observers. 411 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: If you think about it, clearly they made themselves better 412 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: in the offseason offensive line, But when you're talking about 413 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: either Jowan Taylor, Walker Little or Ben Bart won't start 414 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: um and that's okay, all of a sudden, you've got 415 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: real depth, real guys you can plug in. But I 416 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: say that because Walk a little or Jowan Taylor gonna 417 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: start right guard, maybe one of those two moves inside 418 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: or Bens and you know, so you're gonna have some 419 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: some legitimate depth on the offensive line. They've had it before, 420 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: but it's probably the best it's been, and I think 421 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: it bears repeating again. Juwan Taylor said last year when 422 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: he was asked, I'm a right tackle. Walker little speet 423 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: art much better than Juwan Taylor's feet and Juan take 424 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: the money and go inside right because the guy who's 425 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: starting at right guard right now, he's making seventeen and 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: a half million dollars seventeen point nine million dollars um. 427 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: The money, the drop off from tackle to guard money 428 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: isn't what it used to be. Go play wherever they 429 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: put you, Yeah, and walk a little playing at left 430 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: talckle yesterday, but that's because Cam Robinson wasn't there. Securious 431 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: and Camp comes back. How that shifts things because it's 432 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: going to be shifted Walker shift back to right tap 433 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: um mine and I'll make this quick because we've already 434 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: talked about wide receiver a lot with Christian Kirk. Christian 435 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Kirk a moment ago. Mine is kind of wide receiver 436 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: corps believe what they believe it will be. Um janituars 437 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: like this wide receiver group. It is the hot topic. 438 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the hot topic until they produce. I 439 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: do think that Christian Kirkson make a difference. I liked 440 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: what I saw is a Jones in terms of his speed, 441 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: his suddenness out of breaks. Um, do they have that 442 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: big body who's gonna go down and win matchups? Uh? 443 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I think they're going to 444 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: be better. Uh, but I know Shellana has something to 445 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: say because her question leads right into this as well. 446 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: It does, And it's a question that I've been wondering 447 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: for the past year. And I go back. I watched 448 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: this interview from two years ago in Labisca. Shenault was 449 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: drafting and we had Keenan maccartell on the show, and 450 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: he was just so excited to get this guy. When 451 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: we were so excited because we saw what he did 452 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: in college and we saw the versatility. I'm just lost 453 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: on when people ask, you know, will Laviska Shent play 454 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: up to his level? I'm at the point where I say, 455 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, because one, I don't know what he 456 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: does best anymore because he was playing outside last year. 457 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: He's not the guy that's gonna take the top off 458 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: the defense. Okay, does he go into the slot? Is 459 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: he the guy that you go to on third down? 460 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know what he what his best attribute 461 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: is anymore. And we're at the point this year or 462 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: he has to show that or else do that that 463 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: second round draft pick, that's what's gonna be held over 464 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: his head as you never reached the second round draft pick. Well, 465 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: So watching Evan Ingram yesterday, who is a tight end? 466 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: He to me is that big body guy who can 467 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: who can really run um. He looks to me more 468 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: like a receiver. And let's be honest, Labisca doesn't be 469 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: press coverage off the line. He doesn't have the speed 470 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: to create separation. He's more of a tight end. He's 471 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: more of a guy that operates in a tight space 472 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: and then turns and puts his body and and makes 473 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: things happen, you know, with his legs and with his 474 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: strength and his power. So it's me and I being 475 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: somewhat facetious here. I put w R next to Ingram, 476 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: and I put TE next to Chanel, and I bet 477 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: we'd like the results better. Yeah, I don't know that. 478 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean again, I know your facetious because I don't 479 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: know that Levisca has the frame. He'd quite be a 480 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: tight end. But he's more than he is. Yeah, and 481 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that he has the speed in that spot. 482 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on Levisca because he he makes 483 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: plays at times. I think his biggest task is he 484 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: had a tough year last year and what everybody would 485 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: tell you was a tough overall environment. He's gonna have 486 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: an opportunity go catch the ball and training camp. Go 487 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: do what you can do and trust that this coaching 488 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: staff will find way for you to contribute. Um. He's 489 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: a talented guy. Is he going to be second round pick? 490 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: Is he going to be starter X receiver? I don't know, 491 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: but I think he can contribute, and I think he 492 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: needs to. I'm playing drugstore psychologists here, but he needs 493 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: to worry about what he can control. Play as well 494 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: as he can and his his talent will allow him 495 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: to do that it felt last year like he got 496 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: away from that a little bit understandably so because of 497 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: the situation that everybody was in her. Well. Since you 498 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: bring up second round, I think a good comparison is 499 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: A J. Brown, who is now in Philadelphia. They were 500 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: both taken in the second round. So if you're looking 501 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: at him fitting some sort of a paradigm about what 502 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: a second round receiver looks like, no, no, he's never 503 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: going to meet up to that because he's not that 504 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of a receiver. I do think that if Christian 505 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: Kirk and Za Jones and Evan Ingram do what they 506 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: were brought here to do well, then there should be 507 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: opportunities for him to get mismatches on linebackers which he 508 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: should be able to win. And then we all watched 509 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: him at Colorado and at times here hit the middle 510 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: of the field and make things happen with the ball. 511 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: He is a catch and run He's not a run 512 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: to catch guy, so he should have more opportunities with 513 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: the speed that the other guys bring. He can work 514 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the slot and he can do that, and he can 515 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: be physical against safeties where you feel uh concerned for 516 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: it is he's a physical receiver. Tackle breaking receiver. Um, 517 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to make a living breaking tackles from linebackers 518 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. If he can get on the secondary 519 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and do it against those guys, I think he can 520 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: be productive. And these are the questions that haunts me, 521 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: and I'm glad we went over them. When we come 522 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive Time some ozone snapshot here on 523 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network, you will not believe what Daily's 524 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Place has in store for you this year. Coming up 525 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: are the likes of Dave Matthews Band, The Black Crows, 526 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: her Keith Urban and more. For a full list of 527 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: shows and to get tickets, visit Daily's Place dot com friendly. 528 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: We are back Jaguar's Drive Time time for ozone snapshot. 529 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: We are going to Sunroom couch. Steve, what do you 530 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: got for us? Oh, Steve? Could we just get a 531 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: team that's relevant beyond October or November? Brian, We've been 532 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: saying that for years. Um, you know, I do think 533 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: this team can get to relevance in October November. I 534 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: don't think it can get this year too thrilling in December. 535 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: I think I think realistically are a step away from that. 536 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: But uh to me, this looks like a team that 537 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: can compete. It looks like a team that if Trevor 538 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: takes a step, you will grow uh to me, relevance 539 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: being on the graphic, and that's if you can get 540 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: on the graphic and keep interested until mid December. With 541 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: this team, I think it's a huge step and I 542 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: think that's within reach. I don't think the playoffs are 543 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: within reach. And I go back to the nineties season. 544 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: They were four and seven and they just started getting 545 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: things that fell their way. Right. Uh, you know, a 546 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: ball hits the upright and bounces in in Baltimore, and 547 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: then Mike Hollis hits a long field goal in the 548 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: rain to beat Cincinnati here and Tony Brackens makes a 549 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: huge play to intercept Rick Meyer against Seattle on a 550 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Sunday night. I mean, things just fell into place late 551 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: in the year, and here this year it's on the quarterback. 552 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: If he takes a big step forward and lifts the 553 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: team with him, well, then they can be in that 554 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: relevant stage around Thanksgiving. Relevant, by the way, meaning they're 555 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: competing for the seventh spot. I'm not talking about competing 556 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: for the division. I'm talking about being on the graphic. 557 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: In December. Here the top seven. Here they also rans. 558 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: And if they're just on the graphic, what what does 559 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: that mean? Well, we're talking about games that means something, 560 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: which is what the gentleman on his couch is referring to. 561 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: I think we can get to that point in mid 562 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: to late November. But again, the quarterback has to lift 563 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: this team. It's on him if he goes nuts. If 564 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is a big difference maker, right, if they 565 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: can of an Ingram makes a fingertip catch to get 566 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: a big first down to set up a field goal 567 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: in you know, in a game in in uh in November, 568 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: you never know what happens. But I think I think 569 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: it's reasonable to expect they're on the graphic sometime in November. 570 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: And with that that's seven to eight wins, which would 571 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: be obviously huge ump. If the ball bounces your way, 572 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: you recover a fumble and kick a late field goal, 573 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: you just don't know how it goes. All Right, let's 574 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: go to Orange Park, Florida, jr. What areas of the 575 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: roster will management look to bolster per trades or pick 576 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: ups during the preseason. Yeah, I answered this question in text, 577 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: and that kind of gave JR. Little grief. Um, you know, 578 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: you don't really bolster or improve very much in the preseason. 579 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I understand the question. I don't know that there's any 580 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: obvious glaring areas. I could see them maybe addressing reserve 581 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: safety here you always look for offensive line, but Brian, 582 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't really see any areas of the roster that 583 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: are glaring in terms of Boy, they've got to go 584 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: out and pick up somebody's cast off to get a 585 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: starter at this point, which we've seen this team have 586 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: to do in recently. Yeah, and you know, could they 587 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: do that at running back if somehow the health of 588 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: the main two aren't quite there? I guess, But I 589 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: think they've got the roster not to where it needs 590 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: to be. Excuse me, but I think it's going the 591 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: direction they wanted to go, so that I don't think 592 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: they're necessarily looking to patch holes at this point. Injuries 593 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: might cause something like this. So I looked at it 594 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: through a little different lens, because, like you, you mean, 595 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: you start looking at guys they brought in, and they've 596 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: really done a nice job across the roster of improving. 597 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking from fifty three right, so the bottom of 598 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: the roster where guys come in like Nick Sorensen did 599 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: when he was a player, right and and help your 600 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: special teams. These are the guys that you count on. 601 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: You're looking to find a guy who can be a 602 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: gunner for you and make a big play. You're always 603 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: sure earning the bottom third of your roster. Um I 604 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say that the roster is 605 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: so complete that it's you know, it's only the last 606 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: seven or eight guys, but you're always looking for a 607 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: guy who makes a difference on special teams, especially when 608 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: it appears you're gonna have a new kicker this year. Right. 609 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: So I would say the bottom of the roster, the 610 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: bottom of the last eight spots are guys that you're 611 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: hoping to come in and raise the level of your 612 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: special team's performance. That makes sense, and that is ozone 613 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Snap Shollen me come back on the Jaguars Digital networks. 614 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Some closing thoughts stay with us. The Jaguars are future 615 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: focus and ready for a new look in to join 616 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: us at the bank this season as head coach Doug 617 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence lead the charge to lock 618 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: in your seats. Visit Jaguars dot Com. Slash tickets are 619 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: called nine oh four six three three two thousand. Back 620 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: for one more segment on Jaguars Drive Time. The Jaguars 621 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: have it where one O T eight per week is open. 622 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: So next Tuesday we will be back on the practice field, 623 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: meaning Drive Time will be next Wednesday. Breaking news. New 624 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: episode of The Hunt comes out this Thursday. Teas is 625 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: going out on social media tonight and very excited. That 626 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: is the last chapter of the Hunt this season. Awesome 627 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: job to our Jaguars production team and Max and Trent. 628 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a really cool episode looking back at the 629 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: draft and really great access. So much work goes into 630 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: putting that on. I mean, what is it ten minutes? 631 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean and it it takes weeks and days and 632 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: hours of planning and execution. It's fantastic. It is very 633 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: eye opening. How much so it looks for my story 634 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: this week got ash on On Wednesday on Jaguars Defensive End, 635 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen talks about some of his goals and thoughts 636 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: for the coming year. It's pretty good. I love that. 637 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: Nice tease, John. I'll be sure to tune in. Like 638 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: we said, Drive Time next Wednesday, we will see you there. 639 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Stay with us on jaguars dot com all weekend long. 640 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: We will see you next week.