1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I know you all 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: are watching what's happening in Minnesota right now, and those 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: who are viewing this through the lens of common sense 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: are kind of horrified to see a governor and a 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: mayor who are so openly defying the US government. But 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: it's not just that it's a call to their citizens 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: to launch a civil war. I mean, I think we're 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: all pretty stunned by that. But the country is definitely 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: split on this, and my guest today might be able 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: to explain a little bit about how this protest, which 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: has turned into riots, is actually truly organized behind the scenes. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to get right into this interview 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: with the author of the new book, The Invisible Coup, 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer. 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks so much for having me on. I appreciate it. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, as I'm going through everything that you have 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: been talking about, what you've written in this book, all 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: of the connections that you've made between Mexico and China 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: and immigration, I'm pretty stunned. 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, I think we've 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: all had this big national debate over the last few 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: years about immigration as it relates to jobs and you know, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: crime on our streets and our culture. That's a very 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: important conversation to have and a necessary one. What I 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: talked about in the book is weaponized migration, and what 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: I mean by that is foreign actors that can be 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: governments like Mexico's and China, or groups like the Muslim 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: Brotherhood who are seeking to weaponize it to use it 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: as a tool to undermine the United States and Tutor 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: those are not my words. Those are actually the words 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: of these officials. I quote them as saying that, And 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: what we're seeing played out in Minnesota is both an 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: indirect and a direct consequence of that. Because yes, you 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: do have governor walls acting very recklessly, encouraging people to 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, get involved as federal enforcements trying to do 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: their job and obstruct them. But you'll also have foreign 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: actors of foreign governments who are fueling this and encouraging 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: this activism in a very destructive way. So there's something 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: larger going on here than just a crazy governor of 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: a Midwestern state. 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: But as I'm learning from you about birthright citizenship and 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: what's happened with the Chinese and the influence of the Chinese. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: I have to kind of remind myself that Walls has 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: somewhat of an obsession with China. He did honeymoon there 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: on the anniversary of tianem and Square. I mean, that's 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: that in and of itself is strange. This is giving 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: feelings of that kind of a riot, that kind of 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: a protest. I just wonder if there is a connection 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: between Walls and the Chinese government. Maybe that sounds crazy, but. 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: Well, he clearly has a soft spot for a China, 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: not just in his public statements, but as the governor 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: of Minnesota, he's also the chairman of the investment firm 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: that invests pension money for the state of Minnesota. Minnesota 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: was really the only state under his tenure that actually 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: radically increased its holdings of Chinese investments. Most other states, 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: including liberal states like Washington State, were decreasing their exposure 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: to Chinese investments because they understood the political risk and 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: they understood the human rights implications of it. So he 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: clearly does have a soft spot. 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: Forward. 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: He has a close relationship with people at the Chinese Consulate. 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: I've highlighted that in my work in the past. What 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: you're seeing play out in Minneapolis are efforts by foreign 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: actors to weaponize immigration, so China is certainly an example 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: of that. Two of the big groups that are active 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: in China, sorry are active in Minnesota are PSL, the 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: Party for Socialism and Liberation and the Freedom Road Socialist Organization. 69 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: These are far left radical Marxist Leninist groups. They have 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: pledged their allegiance of the Chinese Communist Party in their 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: own words. They travel to Beijing and coordinate with Chinese officials, 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: and a lot of the most radical violent protests are 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: being organized by these two organizations. I would also say 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: that Mexico. Now we think of Mexico as kind of 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: this hapless, corrupt government, they actually have serious ambitions through 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: mass migration to the United States. And I have numerous 77 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: quotes from government officials, including President Shinbaum, as how a 78 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: mass migration to the United States extends Mexico's sovereignty into 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: the United States, and I can go into those but 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: as it relates to Minneapolis, there is a Mexican consulate 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: in Saint Pete, the Satte Sorry Saint Paul, one of 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: the Twin cities, and we know that two of the 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: groups that are also involved in these violent anti ice protests. 84 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: One of them is called Clues. They actually share the 85 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: same a address as the Mexican consulate, and they've done 86 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: a lot of joint operations together. And you have a 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Mexican government officials like Alejandro Roblaz who lives in the 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: United States, who in twenty twenty five was traveling the country, 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: in his words to quote organize the militancy in the 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: United States against Donald Trump. So there's plenty of evidence 91 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: that Mexico was also fanning the flames of these violent protests. 92 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: There's this theory among these groups that once you get 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: to three to four percent of the population that has 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: gone against the US government, that you can or any government, 95 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: that you can actually overturn that form of government and 96 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: change it. 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: Do you think that's what they think they're doing. 98 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, there's no question about it. I mean, look 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: what's happening in Minnesota. There's some precedent for it in 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: American history where you had a governor who said to 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: the federal government, I don't really care what federal law says, 102 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: I don't really care what laws you're trying to enforce. 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: We're not going to cooperate and we're going to obstruct, 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: and we're going to get mobs of people to stop 105 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: you guys from doing it. That happened in Mississippi and 106 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: Alabama in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties when you 107 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: had segregation. Is saying we're just going to ignore the 108 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: federal law. That's exactly what Tim Walls is doing here. 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: But what he's doing is he's relying on a small 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: percentage of people who say, until we get our way, 111 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: we are going to create chaos. We are going to 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: so discord, we are going to engage in violent acts 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: to try to provoke people to make things worse. And 114 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: let's be clear, Tim Walls, for all of his weepy 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: kind of sentimentalism, he wants martyrs. He wants these things 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: happening because it benefits him politically and helps his political cause. 117 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: And the reason that these foreign actors, like the government 118 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: of Mexico or like China are doing is is they 119 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: view the United States, particularly in the Trumpet era, as 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: a fundamental threats to their interests. They view it as 121 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: a civilization that needs to be defeated. Again, that's those words, 122 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: not mine. So those are the stakes. This is much 123 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: larger than simply a few crazy radicals in Minneapolis, you know, 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: throwing things at federal law enforcement. 125 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about him wanting martyrs. I want to 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: get into a little bit about how the media helps 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: him out here, because obviously the media has been highlighting 128 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: these two terrible situations where we lost to people in 129 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: the state of Minnesota, but we haven't heard anything about 130 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: the fact that these officers were locked up in a 131 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: hotel they had they were you know, you see one 132 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: of the officers whose hands are bloody, obviously he has 133 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: been attacked. Another officer had his finger bitten off over 134 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: the weekend. I mean, we're not hearing anything about that. 135 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: But it is getting It's not just it's not just 136 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: people protesting. 137 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: It is getting violent. 138 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not protest, it's it's violence. And again, 139 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: just look at the arrogance of somebody like Tim Walls, 140 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: who is saying, just as the segregationist did in the South, 141 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to stand in the school doorway 142 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: and defy the federal government. I Am going to not 143 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 3: just say to people you can stand on the street 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: and you can protest and say we don't like ice, 145 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: that this is America you can do. That. Which you 146 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: cannot do is prevent law enforcement from carrying out their duties. 147 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: If you do so, it's a felony. If you do 148 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: so in the tragic situation where this gentleman was carrying 149 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: a side arm, that's also an added crime. If you 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: commit a felony and you're armed while doing so, that's 151 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: an additional criminal penalty. And I say that, by the way, 152 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: as somebody who has a concealed carry permit and carries 153 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: a firearm, you just don't do that. But he is 154 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: fanning the flames and fueling those and he will not 155 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: stop even if people are being shot in this chaos 156 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: because of the agenda that he has puting forward. 157 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: You said something interesting there, because there's been a lot 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: of debate obviously the Monday Morning Quarterbacks people who are 159 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: going through this video and saying this man was just 160 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: recording and we certainly don't have at this point the 161 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: video ahead of time. I mean, if you're watching it, 162 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: it seems as though there's a clash with law enforcement. 163 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: Is he getting in the way of law enforcement. We're 164 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: still trying to figure that all out. But your point is, 165 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I think if he is impeding an investigation that's a felony, 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: and he has a gun on his body. That because 167 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying, oh wait, now, 168 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you see all these two A 169 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: people saying you can't can still carry, You can, but 170 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: you can't commit a crime while you can still carry. 171 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: Right exactly. And by the way, I would flip that 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: and say, it's amazing how many new Second Amendment supporters 173 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: there now are on the political left who suddenly are 174 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: all in favor of people conceal carrying. And no, look, 175 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: I've had a concealed carry permit for more than ten years. 176 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: A number of basic things that you learn from training. 177 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: One of those is you don't commit a crime when 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: you're carrying a firearm. You don't go looking for trouble. 179 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: You avoid trouble precisely for these reasons. My understanding is 180 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: this gentleman was also not carrying an ID. You're required 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: to carry an ID if you're carrying a firearm, at 182 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: least in the state of Minnesota. So again it's a tragedy. 183 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: But what Walls is doing is, again, we have elections. 184 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: There was an election in twenty twenty four. Donald Trump 185 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: did not hide the fact what his views were on immigration. 186 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: The American people have voted for that millions of numbers. 187 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: And here you have Tim Wallas who's saying, well, I'm sorry, 188 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't agree with federal law, so I'm going to 189 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: arrogantly assume I have the ability to decide which federal 190 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: law is going to be enforced in which ones are not. 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: That's kind of where we are. And again, in the 192 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: larger scope of things, we need to understand the ambitions 193 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: of these foreign entities. This is not just a domestic squabble. 194 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: This is a civilizational battle that's taking place in the 195 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: heartland of America and issues about controlling our borders. And 196 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: when people think about immigration the border, sealing the border 197 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: was absolutely essential. But the reality is when people come 198 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: into our country, they bring in political networks, and some 199 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: of those are nefarious. They want to undermine us. We 200 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: need to start looking at dismantling those political networks that 201 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: are anathetical to the United States. These are foreign government officials. 202 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: They don't have First Amendment rights that allow them to 203 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: agitate and interfere in our elections, which is what some 204 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: of them are doing. 205 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 206 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: Let me go back to the Minnesota situation for a minute, 208 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: because when we hear on the news, I've heard many 209 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: news networks who have come out and said, this is 210 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: happening in cities all across the nation. 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: No, No, it's happening in Minneapolis. 212 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is really very concentrated in just Minneapolis. 213 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: But it is taking up a lot of the air 214 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: on the networks because obviously it's a big pr problem, 215 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I would say for the for the Trump administration, because 216 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: they have created this clash there and they've convinced I 217 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: mean even the lieutenant governor said, go put your body 218 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: in between them, get your body in the street. I 219 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: mean she essentially what you said, asked for martyrs. Why 220 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: are these people not understanding that ice is all across 221 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the country and their job is to get really bad 222 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: people out of the country. How is that narrative getting manipulated? 223 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's not being covered by the media. And certainly 224 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: what I would advise if the lieutenant governor says get 225 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: your body in the way, why isn't the lieutenant governor 226 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: doing it? Yeah, she's telling you know, she Walls. 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Was hiding behind the gate of his house. I mean, 228 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: how embarrassing is that? 229 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if this reminds me of you know, 230 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: when you have the JIHADISTI moms who are trying to 231 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: tell other people go be a suicide bomber, it's the 232 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: same kind. They're encouraging people to risk themselves, risk getting 233 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: arrested on a felony charge. You're not going to get 234 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: bailed out by some state judge. It's a felony charge. 235 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: Go do this in the name of the cause, while, 236 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: by the way, I sit back here and hold a 237 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: fundraiser for my reelection campaign. It's really very disgraceful. And 238 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: the only remaining question for me involving these elected officials 239 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: is are they ignorant of the international component here? Are 240 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: they ignorant of the fact that you have Chinese connected 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: entities and you have Mexican officials agitating in this way. 242 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: Are you either ignorant or are you complicit? There's no 243 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: other option, And that's the sort of question I'd like 244 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: to see the mast. 245 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: So that is where what I want to get into now, 246 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people are ignorant. 247 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: I think if you are in. 248 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: Leadership, you should not be and obviously you were able 249 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: to define this and find this, so it's not like 250 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: it's hidden. It's not as if you cannot know this information. 251 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: But there are people in leadership who clearly are acting 252 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: as though this is no big deal. The President has 253 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: been critical of birthright citizenship, and most people get really 254 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable when they hear that, because they're like, oh, this 255 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: is how we've always done it. How can you question 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship? But then I start reading about birth tourism 257 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,119 Speaker 1: and what you say is happening with Chinese birth tourism. 258 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean you're talking. 259 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: About over the last you said, over the last thirteen years, 260 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand per year, and these are all going 261 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: to be US voters. 262 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, it's birthright citizenship. A lot of people 263 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: kind of assume that birthright citizenship applies to somebody happens 264 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: to be in the country on a student visa and 265 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: they give birth and okay, well maybe that child can 266 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: be a US citizen, or somebody has snuck across the board. 267 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: This occasionally happens. What China has done is created an 268 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: industrial scale loophole to manipulate and threaten the United States 269 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: with birthright citizenship. And so what do I mean. What 270 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean is back in twenty eleven and years since then, 271 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party, in their biggest newspapers, started running 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: articles saying, you have a right, if your child is 273 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: born in the United States for your child to be 274 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: a US citizen. This is the Chinese Communist Party, yes, 275 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: in their newspaper. I quoted in the book It's crazy, 276 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: you have a constitutional right. So first of all, you've 277 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: got the CCP telling Chinese elites you have a right, 278 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: a constitutional right to this. And then you're wondering why 279 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: would a foreign government want members of their own elite 280 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: to get US citizenship for their children. But then they 281 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: allowed this industry to flourish. This industry called birth tourism, 282 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: and it's advertised all over Chinese media, and of course 283 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: Chinese media is heavily censored, so the fact that they're 284 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: allowing these ads to appear is also problematic. But what 285 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: happens is what you described birth tourism. They pay member 286 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: the Chinese elite, will pay a company fifty seventy five 287 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. They will set up a hotel, they'll set 288 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: up a medical hospital in the United States. The mother 289 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: and sometimes husband will fly to the United States, they 290 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: will give birth to the child. A couple of days later, 291 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: they will fly back to China. Now their child being 292 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: born here, according to birthright citizenship, is a US citizen. 293 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: But the child's basically been here for a week from 294 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: the time they were born to the time they went home. 295 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: But they go back to China. They are raised in China. 296 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: They're going to achieve adulthood in China. Their parents are 297 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: members of the Chinese elite. They're military officers, they're intelligence officers. 298 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: We found one Chinese senior military officer who has three 299 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: children who are all US citizens. And when they turn eighteen, 300 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: they're going to be able to vote in our left 301 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: actions even though they've never lived here. They're going to 302 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: be able to donate to political campaigns, They're going to 303 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: be able to apply for government jobs. And by the way, 304 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: they can also get permanent residence status for both of 305 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: their parents by virtue of the fact that they're US citizens. 306 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: So this is a massive, massive security breach for US. 307 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: And let's remember we're looking at up roughly a million 308 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: of votes. That's according to the Chinese government. By the way, 309 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: the Chinese government estimates that there's like a million to 310 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: a million and a half US citizens raised in China 311 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: who are going to be able to begin voting in 312 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: the next few years. That's what we're facing. So this 313 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: is not sort of occasionally somebody being born in the 314 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: United States. It's an accident that happens. It's planned, it's 315 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 3: industrial and we in the United States have no sense 316 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: of the scale of this because, Tutor, when you get 317 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: virtual a child in the United States and you get 318 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 3: that birth certificate that establishes that they can be a 319 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: US citizen, we don't collect any day on the nationality 320 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: of the parents. So our federal government has no clue 321 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: of how many US citizens are lurking out there in 322 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: other countries who are going to be able to vote 323 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: when they turn eighteen. And in China it's an absolute tsunami. 324 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: So you have birth hotels that are in states like California, 325 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: where people come they this child is not raised here. 326 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: The child is raised as a follower of Xijingping. 327 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is because you don't go to China 328 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, but I'm actually American and I 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: don't believe in these things. You are raised and if 330 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: you're if you're wealthy enough to come have your child 331 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: in California. 332 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: You are part of the CCP. 333 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's right. These are members of the elite. 334 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: And there's another offshoot of this that we have no estimates. 335 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: Even the Chinese government has not done estimates, and that 336 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: is their exploitation of surrogacy in the United States. 337 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: So this is a little bit different even be I mean, 338 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: this shocks me that you can have I mean, there 339 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: are states where you can't have a surrogate as a 340 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: US citizen, but there are Chinese who can get a 341 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: US surrogate and then have a US baby. 342 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. 343 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: And again the numbers here are shocking, Tutor. A lot 344 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: of it's in California. California has no restrictions, shocking on surrogacy. 345 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: So what happens is you're a member of the Chinese elite, 346 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: You find a mother in the United States, you donate sperm, 347 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: You pay the mother fifty thousand dollars, let's say, to 348 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: carry the child. When the child is born, the child 349 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 3: will be picked up, sometimes not even by the parents. 350 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes a third party shows up, picks up the child, 351 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: flies the child back to China. That child will also 352 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: have US citizenship, not just by virtue of the fact 353 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: being born here, but the birth mother is American. And 354 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: we don't know the the full extent of the numbers. 355 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: But let me just give you two shocking data points. 356 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: Number one, the Wall Street Journal three weeks ago had 357 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: a story about just one member of the CCP elite 358 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: in China, one billionaire businessman who tutor has, according to 359 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal, one hundred children born this way. 360 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: One hundred children born this way that are using. 361 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I assure you they are not in his house as 362 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: his children, So what happens to them once they go back? 363 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: Correct? There's absolutely a you know, horrifying humanitarian components to 364 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: all of this. So yeah, that one another data point. 365 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: We looked at just southern California. We said, how many 366 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: businesses are there in southern California in the surrogacy business 367 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: that are owned by Chinese nationals. We found, just in 368 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: southern California one hundred and seven businesses that are doing so. Again, 369 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: this is a this is a massive problem. It's not 370 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: just a birthright citizenship problem. It's a surrogacy problem as well. 371 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: This could overturn, aren't I mean this really talking a 372 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: million votes that wins a presidential election. I mean this 373 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: changes the fundamentals of government. This can change our entire 374 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: economic system. 375 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a massive threat. And again, China is very 376 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: sophisticated about this. Mexico has its strategies, China has is 377 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: has theirs, and it's it's enormously sophisticated. They have also 378 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: figured out a way to inject tens of millions of 379 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 3: dollars into our political campaigns legally as well. And it 380 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: goes back to a visa law that was created in 381 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: the early nineteen nineties called EB five. That's if you 382 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: invest a million dollars in the United States and you 383 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 3: create some jobs, you get permanent residence status in the 384 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: United States. And you're like, okay, yeah, maybe we want 385 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: people to invest in America. Maybe that's a good idea. 386 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: The problem is when you look at that law, turns 387 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: out that the person that really pushed in a lobby 388 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: to get it passed was a businesswoman named Maria Sai, 389 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: who ten years later was outed as a Chinese spy. 390 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: So we literally have a VSA law that was written 391 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: by a Chinese spy. Now why is this problematic, Well, 392 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: you invest a million dollars in the United States, this 393 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: program is dominated by the Chinese, more than ninety percent 394 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: of the people that get visas this way or Chinese nationals. 395 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 3: You give the million dollars, you get the permanent residence 396 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: status in the United States, but you don't actually live here, 397 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: And they brag about this on Chinese social media. I 398 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: permanent residence status, but I don't live there. What does 399 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: permanent residence status give you. You can't legally vote, but you 400 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: can legally donate to political campaigns. So you have these 401 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: quote unquote permanent residents of the United States living full 402 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: time in China who are pouring tens of millions of 403 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 3: dollars into our political campaigns. Probably not surprising. Those donations 404 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: break eighty to twenty Democrat Republican and they are making 405 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: a significant difference in congressional races, all kinds of federal races. 406 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: It's an enormous problem. And they don't have to disclose 407 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: them as foreign donations. So again, they figured out a 408 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: way to exploit our system, and we've been totally oblivious 409 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: to it. 410 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 411 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. 412 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: So what is your impression of the president's plan to 413 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: sell I think he's selling green cards for a billion dollars. 414 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm not in favor of that. I think, 415 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: you know, look, what he has said is, you know 416 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: he's going to raise the threshold. There's going to be 417 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: a very rigorous screening process. I have no idea. I 418 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: have no doubt that he is going to have a 419 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: screening process. The problem is, at some point you're going 420 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: to have a president in there who's not going to 421 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: have a screening process. Right, you're going to have happened 422 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: what happened in the Obama and Biden and Clinton illustrations 423 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: where the citizenship rules were totally gutted. They ignored a 424 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: criminal background checks for people who wanted US citizenship. You 425 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: can have the same thing happening with this program. So 426 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a good idea, and I would 427 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: be opposed to it. 428 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you about what is happening in Mexico. 429 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: You've talked about Mexico a few times. They say that 430 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: they have almost forty million people in the United States, 431 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and they've openly talked about especially certain states, like taking 432 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: that territory back, which I think you're right. We have 433 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: this kind of innocent view of their a bit of 434 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: a chaotic government. 435 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: They couldn't really pull that off. 436 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: But in the midst of hearing everybody go crazy about 437 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wanting control of Greenland, I mean, you have active, 438 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: high elected officials in the Mexican government saying they will 439 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: take states back from the United States. 440 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: No one's saying anything. 441 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was one of the more shocking things in 442 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 3: the book. A how many leaders in Mexico are saying this. 443 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about top leaders, and how many 444 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: there are. I mean, there's more than a dozen quotes 445 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: from senior Mexican officials. Let me just read two of 446 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: them for your readers to give a sense, so we're 447 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: not exaggerating. This is what they say. The first one 448 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: is from a government report in December of twenty twenty four, 449 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: written by President Shinebambs, one of our top aides. Quote, 450 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: we already know that the Mexican population in the United 451 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: States reaches thirty nine point nine million. We Mexicans are 452 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: reclaiming our territory. End quote. Or this one from one 453 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: of the most powerful senators in Mexico. He's a member 454 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: of the Marina Party, which is the ruling party, and 455 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: he sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the 456 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate, just just a 457 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Quote, Mexicans are in our territories California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, 458 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming. We're going 459 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: to take back the territory that was stolen from us. 460 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: End quote. And I could read a bunch of more. 461 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: The bottom line is they view mass migration as a 462 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: means of establishing sovereignty over certain American states. And there's 463 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: already evidence that they've achieved that, and they talk about that, 464 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: and I quote them in the book. So again, it's 465 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: weaponized immigration. This is not just simply a case of 466 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: people coming across the border for a better life. Yes, 467 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: there are people like that. There are people that want 468 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: to come and be part of the American dream and 469 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: want to assimilate. But again Mexican officials are opposed to that. 470 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: I quote in the book a senior official from the 471 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Marina Party, the ruling party, who says that those from 472 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: Mexico who come from the United States who American eye 473 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: and assimilate are traders to Mexico. And he says by 474 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 3: the way, that President Scheinbaum agrees with him. So they 475 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: don't want assimilation, they don't want people to embrace the 476 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: American dream. They view them as tools that will allow 477 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: them to extend what they call Greater Mexico into the 478 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: United States. And they're did serious. 479 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: About it as part of their goal to destabilize because 480 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: obviously we saw all of those caravans that came through Mexico, 481 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: and the most common sense comment should have been, why 482 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: is Mexico letting them just go right through? 483 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Why don't they try to stop them? There's a border 484 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: they hit before they come to the United States. 485 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Why is it just like, oh, the United States, it's 486 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: that way, you know? 487 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, how does that happen? 488 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's actually a part of it, you know. 489 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: When Joe Biden in November at twenty twenty was declared 490 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: the winner of the election. Days after that, the President 491 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: of Mexico AMLO at the time was his name. He's 492 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: the mentor of the current president Shinbaum. Days after Biden 493 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: was declared the winner, he had a vote in the 494 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: Mexican parliament to dramatically loosen immigration laws that they knew 495 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 3: based on the congressional record at the time. They knew 496 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: was going to lead to a flood of people heading 497 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: to the United States, so they did that intentionally. You 498 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 3: had other governments like Nicaragua, which is run by the Sandinistas, 499 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 3: very left wing, who said, anybody who flies to Nicaragua, 500 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: we will get you to the border so you can 501 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: go to the United States. And they were flooded with 502 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: literally millions of people started arriving on chartered airplanes in 503 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: Nicaragua for the sole purpose of immigrating north to the 504 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: United States. And the reason that Daniel Ortega, the president 505 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: of Nicaragua, did that, according to him, to his own words, 506 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: was to wage war on the United States. So this 507 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: is intentional, it's real. It involves foreign adversaries, it involves 508 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: elites in the United States like Joe Biden and others 509 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: who see the political advantage of doing this. They recognized 510 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: early on that it is a political winner for them 511 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: in terms of their base of power and support to 512 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: have mass migration, illegal migration into the United States. California, 513 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: as I put you out of the book, has four 514 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: more congressional seats than they would ordinarily have, solely because 515 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: of illegal immigrants that are in that state because the 516 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: census counts people, it does not count citizens. Trump's trying 517 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: to change that. But so California is incentivized to have 518 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: as many illegals as possible within the state from the 519 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: measure of political power. And does four congressional seats sound 520 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: like a lot? Does it sound like a little? Keep 521 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: in mind that those four congressional seats, that's more than 522 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: thirteen states in the United States have. In other words, 523 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: illegals in California have more a larger congressional deligraation delegation 524 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: than thirteen states in our country. That's what's real raw 525 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: political power, and that's why they want them in their states, 526 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: and that's why they're fighting so aggressively to not have 527 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: them removed. 528 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Well, and for the people who naively believe that everybody 529 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: loves America, because America is always going to come to 530 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: the rescue. Just look at the faces of even our 531 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: allies at the World Economic Forum. They're jealous. They would 532 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: gladly say we can take over and become the most 533 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: powerful nation in the world. Now I believe they know 534 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: that they can't, but I don't think that they are 535 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: as concerned about the immigration into the United States because 536 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: there is a bit of jealousy there. 537 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: You can see it on their faces. 538 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the United States is a unique 539 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: country in so many ways. And when you look at Europe. 540 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: My parents are from Europe. They immigrated from Switzerland and 541 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: from Sweden before I was born, and so I have 542 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: friends in Europe. Europe does not have the same civilizational 543 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: order as the United States. We are really based on 544 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: a creed, based on certain ideas in prints. Europe were 545 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: nation states that developed out of ethnicity, right, you were French, 546 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: you were German. That has kind of been stripped away. 547 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: And so a European identity, what does it really mean? 548 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: Who knows. But we know what an American identity is 549 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: and that's what makes us unique and different in the world. 550 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: And so when you had immigration fifty years ago, one 551 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: hundred years ago, by and large, it was people that say, 552 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: we want to go to America, we want to capture 553 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: the American dream, we want to become Americans, we want 554 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: to be proud Americans. That's what my parents did. That's 555 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: what immigrates from all around the world used to do. 556 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: What we are now living in is the era of 557 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: weaponized migration. And you have governments like Mexico, like China. 558 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: You have NGO groups that are involved in the sort 559 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: of immigration refugee space. And what is their message. No, 560 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: don't assimilate. This is not a superior society, a superior culture. No, 561 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: don't embrace. Embrace the collectivist values. Those are their words, 562 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: embrace the collectivist values of your homeland. Don't become American. 563 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: If you become American, you are a trader. So they 564 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: have weaponized him immigration and they're quite open when they 565 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: say that they like immigration, mass immigration to the United States. 566 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: Why because it's going to have a quote, transformative effect 567 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: on American civilization. And what they mean by that is 568 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: they want it radically changed, and this is the way 569 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: they're going to accomplish it. Again, it's not me saying it. 570 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: I quote them in the book saying it over and 571 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: over and over again. 572 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's why the book is so important, and that's 573 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: why people should read this book, because we have so 574 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: many folks right now on the right who are saying, 575 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: we want to be able to intelligently talk about this 576 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: and talk about the dangers, but we don't fully understand 577 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: the situation. 578 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: So go get it. 579 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: It's the invisible coup, how American elites and foreign powers 580 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: use immigration as a weapon. Where can they get it? 581 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: You can get it anywhere where books thanks are sold. 582 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: We've been number one on Amazon for all books sold 583 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: for the past week, so you can certainly get it there, 584 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: but it's also available in bookstores. Well. 585 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Congratulations Peter Schweitzer, Thank you so much for coming on the. 586 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: Podcast, Thanks for having me. I enjoyed it. 587 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and thank you all for joining the podcast. As always, 588 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: you can get it wherever you get your podcast, the 589 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or Tutordison dot com. 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