1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: We are going to build on the show that came 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: out on Monday, and if you missed that podcast, go 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: back and listen to it. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: We are talking about the. 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: IRS whistleblower, and that whistleblower has now come forward and 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: done an interview with CBS News. Senator that's shocking and 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: on its own right there. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, in the last forty eight hours, the situation has 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: gotten far more perilous for Joe Biden for the White House. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: As we discussed on Monday's podcast, we did a deep 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: dive into the allegations from the two IRS whistleblowers that 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: came to Congress, came to the Houseways and Means Committee. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: In the forty eight hours that have followed, several things 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: have happened. Number one, one of those whistleblowers has gone 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: public and CBS News has reported on it. And it 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: is a big deal for the corporate media, which has 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: spent the entire Biden presidency shilling for and covering for 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and the Democrats, to suddenly be reporting on 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: these facts. Now, I will point out, Where's ABC, Where's NBC? 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: But the fact that CBS is doing this, that's a 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: big deal. Where's CNN, Where's MSNBC. Apparently none of the 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: rest of them cover news, but CBS. You're starting to 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: see the first rats fleeing from the sinking ship, and 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: the substance of these allegations are really disturbing. You're going 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: to hear two minutes of it on CBS and then 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: what we're gonna do on this podcast is actually break 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: down the real substance of exactly what is in those 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: allegations and why it poses big, big trouble for Joe Biden. 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least CBS is doing it. As you described it, 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: it's to be honest with the audience. There's no way 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: you can cover what this story really is in two minutes, 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: and that's where we're going to tell you everything. They 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: didn't take a Listen though, to CBS News talking with 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: this whistleblower and actually leading the nightly news with this. 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: Now to VS News exclusive with the first television interview 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: with IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley since he spoke with lawmakers 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: last month. A lead investigator in the Hunter Biden case 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: tells CBS's Jim Axelrod that he felt the president's son 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: received preferential treatment, and in a stunning claim says that 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: he was blocked from pursuing leads that could have led 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: to the President himself. 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 5: If this was any other person they liked, it would 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 5: have already served their sentence. 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 6: Gary Shapley was a lead IRS supervisory agent in Operation Sportsmen, 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 6: the investigation into Hunter Biden. Shapley said he uncovered conduct 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 6: that warranted more serious charges. 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 5: There were personal expenses that were taken as business expenses, prostitutes, 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: sex club memberships, hotel rooms for purported drug dealers. 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 6: How much Hunter Biden o in taxes. 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 5: So from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen it was two 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: point two million dollars. 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 6: The back taxes were paid off, and last week, the 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: Trump appointed US attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, reached an 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 6: agreement with Hunter Biden. The President's son would admit to 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: a firearm charge and plead guilty for his failure to 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: pay taxes. If a judge signs off, the deal means 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 6: no jail time testimony. 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: We have just released details a lack of US attorney independence. 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 6: And Shapley told lawmakers the US attorney Weiss was blocked 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: from bringing stronger charges, but US Attorney General Merrick Garland 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 6: said last week that Weiss. 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 7: Was not I'm saying he was given complete authority to 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 7: make all decisions on his own. 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: I documented exactly what happened, and it doesn't seem to 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: match what the Attorney General or the US Attorney are 68 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: saying today. 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 6: Shapley provided lawmakers this contemporaneous email he wrote after an 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 6: October meeting last year. Shapley says Weiss told him the opposite, 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: that Weiss is not the deciding person on whether charges 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 6: are filed. 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: It was just shocking to me. 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 6: Shapley, who is still working for the IRS, told us 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: that even before President Biden took office, he was directed 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 6: to avoid leads involving Hunter's father. 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: There were certain investigative steps that we weren't allowed to 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: take that could have led us to President Biden. 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: And you wanted to take them. 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 5: We needed to take them, and you weren't allowed to 81 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: take That's correct. 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 6: It is important to point out that at that point 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 6: in Shapa's investigation, Donald Trump was still president and his 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 6: Attorney General, William Barr, had rules in place that may 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: have limited what Chapley could pursue. The US Attorney's office 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 6: in Delaware had no comment. As for Hunter Biden, his 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 6: attorneys did not respond to us, but he said before 88 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: in a statement that he is taking responsibility for mistakes 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: he made during a period of turmoil in his life. 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: There it is turmoil, right, it will blame it on turmoil. 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: CBS News capturing this, And there was also something else 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: interesting that came out center. Not only did Hunter Biden 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: get invited to State dinner this week, but apparently he 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: left with his dad after the second whistleblower comes out 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: to go to Camp David. And we were told, at 96 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: least through some in the media that lawyers were there 97 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: as well. That doesn't sound like a normal response to whistleblowers. 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm being sarcastic, right, It's like they said, all right, 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: we got to go to Camp David. 100 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Now this is getting real. 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: Well, it is difficult to overstate how bad the developments 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: have been for Joe Biden and the White House in 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: the past several days these allegations. If what the whistleblowers 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: are saying is true, then Joe Biden flat out lied 105 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: and is very likely guilty of serious criminal conduct, guilty 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: of multiple felonies. If what the whistleblowers is saying is true, 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: then Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, 108 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: likely committed both perjury are actually lying under oath to 109 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Congress and obstruction of justice, both serious felonies. On the 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: podcast on Monday, I called for a special counsel to 111 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: be appointed to investigate Merrick Garland as to whether he 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: lied under oath to Congress in response to questioning that 113 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: I asked him before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and also 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: whether he personally committed or at his direction, had committed 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: obstruction of justice. I have also on this podcast repeatedly 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: called for Merrick Garland to be impeached. In the last 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: forty eight hours, the House of Representatives took a major 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: step forward in doing so. Take a listen to Kevin 119 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: McCarthy explaining why. 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 7: Well, you apparently don't follow me on Twitter because yesterday 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 7: I laid out very very clearly by July sixth, because 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 7: of the allegations from the IRS, because of the whistleblowers 123 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 7: and the DOJ Garland, what he is saying and what 124 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 7: David Weiss are saying privately are two different things. And 125 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 7: if it comes true, what the IRS whistleblower is saying, 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 7: we're going to start impeachment inquiries on the Attorney General. Well, 127 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 7: because as a matter of fact, it shows that. 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 8: And so it would be great if you had called 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 8: your panel. You've got the whistleblower, you've got the Attorney General, 130 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 8: and you've got the US Attorney seeing different stuff. 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 132 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 7: But what's interesting is the IRS whistleblower that has no 133 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 7: political background, took copious notes, can tell you the date, 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 7: can tell you the people in the meeting. 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 9: He said, so we could hear a. 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 7: Screen, so we could bring six other people in. And 137 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 7: the US Attorney you said this here, but the Attorney 138 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 7: General says something different, said you had all power and 139 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 7: you did not. 140 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: You had all power, but you did not. 141 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 9: Well, that's exactly right. 142 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: And I will say when you when you watch this 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: IRS whistleblower on CBS, you see that this is by 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: all appearances, not a partisan, not a Republican, not someone 145 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: with an ax to grind. Instead, this is a career 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: IRS employee, a supervisor, who certainly appears to be horrified 147 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: at what he saw. And it's important this is something 148 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy emphasized. If what he is saying is true, 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: then both the Attorney General and the President of the 150 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: United States are flat out lying because it is completely inconsistent. 151 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: It's possible that the whistleblower is lying. But I'll tell 152 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: you what. There's a second whistleblower. There's a second whistleblower 153 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,119 Speaker 3: who from the irs, who came forward, who stayed anonymous. 154 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: He calls himself mister X. But let me tell you what. 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: The second whistleblower. How he described himself in his testimony. 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: He says, quote, I'm an American and my allegiances are 157 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: to my country and my government. I'm also a gay man. 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: I have a husband, two dogs, a home, and a 159 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: life full of family and friends. But above else, I'm 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: a human being. My sexuality does to find me as 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: a person. It's just who I love. I'd like to 162 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: say one more thing regarding this topic sexuality, especially since 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: it's the start of Pride Month. But people have said 164 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: that I'm gay, and people have said, because I'm gay 165 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: and that I'm working on the case agent in this investigation, 166 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: that i must be a far left liberal perfectly placed 167 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: to fit some agenda. This was the stuff that was 168 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: on social media regarding me. I can tell you or 169 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: that I am none of these things. I'm a career 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 3: government employee and I've always strived to not let politics 171 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: enter my frame of mind when working cases. I've also 172 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: tried to stay so non political that in the last 173 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: presidential election, I voted, but I had decided to not 174 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: vote for the presidential candidate because I didn't want to 175 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: be asked that question at a court proceeding in the future, 176 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to show any potential bias. My 177 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: political beliefs are simple. I'm as middle of the road 178 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: as they come, but would consider my myself to be 179 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: a Democrat. Now that's one of the two whistleblowers, a 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: gay man with a husband who's a Democrat. 181 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 9: The other. 182 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: They're both career IRS employees, and I got to say, 183 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: on the face of it, their testimony has very significant credibility. 184 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 9: If what they are saying is true. 185 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland in all likelihood committed at least one felony, 186 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: if not multiple felonies, and Ben let's walk through specifically 187 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: what those allegations are. 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I 214 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: want to go through that list you just mentioned because 215 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: it's so important that people understand these allegations and what 216 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: they're accusing. Not only those under Garwin, but the cover 217 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: up with the Bidens clearly have to be involved in this. 218 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. Here's how the Houseways and Means 219 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: Committee described the evidence. They said, quote whistleblowers describe how 220 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department intervened and overstepped in a campaign 221 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: to protect the son of Joe Biden by delaying, divulging, 222 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: and denying an ongoing investigation into Hunter Biden's alleged tax crimes. 223 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: The testimony shows tactics used by the Justice Department to 224 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: delay the investigation long enough to reach the statute of 225 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: limitations evidence. They divulged sensitive actions by the investigative team 226 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: to Biden's attorneys, and denied requests by the US attorney 227 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: to bring charges against Biden. Houseways and Means Committee continued 228 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: IRS employees who blew the whistle on this abuse were 229 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: retaliated against despite a commitment IRS Commissioner were full made 230 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: before the Ways and Means Committee to uphold their legal protections. 231 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: They were removed from this investigation after they responsibly worked 232 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: through the chain of command to raise these concerns. Now, 233 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: what did the whistleblowers testimony reveal? It revealed that the 234 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: IRS removed the whistleblowers from the Hunter Biden investigations, and 235 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: in fact, they were punished as mister Shapley was not 236 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: selected for a promotion after he blew the whistle and 237 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 3: when he was more qualified than the candidate who was selected. 238 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 9: And specifically, the. 239 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: Whistleblowers stated that agents sought to perform a physical search 240 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: of Joe Biden's guest house where Hunter Biden was staying. However, 241 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: the assistant US attorney on the case named Leslie Wolf 242 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: questioned quote whether the juice was worth the squeeze and 243 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: noted that quote optics were a driving factor in the 244 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: decision on whether to execute a search warrant. She further 245 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: indicated that quote, a lot of evidence in our investigation 246 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: would be found in the guest house of former Vice 247 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: President Biden, and she concluded that quote, there is no 248 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: way we will get that approved. 249 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 9: Now. 250 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: Beyond that, assistant of US Attorney Wolf went even further 251 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: in obstructing the investigation, and Shapley noted that quote if 252 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: there was a quote big guy in the transcript, Wolf 253 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: was either going to directly berate you or she was 254 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: probably going to give you the silent treatment, which was 255 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: one of her tactics for a couple of weeks. Weeks 256 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: and talk behind your back. Now, who is this assistant 257 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: US Attorney Wolf? Well, Her husband Daniel donated fourteen times 258 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: to Obama for America Wow during both the two thousand 259 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: and eight and the twenty twelve campaigns, seven times in 260 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, seven times in twenty twelve for 261 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: a total click. 262 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: If that's a hardcore donor, people need to understand that 263 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: that's not just like hey, you got a family friend 264 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: and they say, hey, give a little donation cover the 265 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: house for an event. 266 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: That's hardcore activism. 267 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 9: He gave a. 268 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Total of one thy one hundred and seventy five dollars, 269 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: so little less than one hundred bucks each each time 270 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: for the fourteen times the two of them were married 271 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: in two thousand. The contributions occurred during their marriage and 272 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: actually Assistant US Attorney. Wolf herself donated to Act Blue 273 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty in a donation earmarked for Senator Amy 274 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: Klobachar's Democrat presidential campaign. She also donated to Josh Shapiro, 275 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: a Democrat, in his twenty twenty two bid to become 276 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania governor. So you've got a prosecutor who is a 277 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: Democrat donor married to another Democrat donor, who's refusing search 278 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: warrants because she says, quote, the juice is not worth 279 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: the squeeze. And I got to say, by the way, 280 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: that's the same damn phrase the administrator at Stanford Law 281 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: School said when she was siding with the mob that 282 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: was heckling Judge Kyle Duncan. She says, is the juice 283 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: worth the squeeze? I wonder the leftist is this some 284 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: lingo in leftist world that that they're using when they're 285 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: doing something wildly improper. 286 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's their alibi, right, it's there, Get out of jail, car. Oh, 287 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: it's just not worth it. It's not worth the turmoil or 288 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: the exhaustion. It's it's part of I think the wok idiology. 289 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, we just don't want to touch 290 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: that right, it's not. 291 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: Worth it well, and it gets worse. On December eighth, 292 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, the IRS and FBI agents wanted to interview 293 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden in Los Angeles. Now, Hunter Biden had Secret 294 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: Service protection, and so during the preparation for the Hunter interview, 295 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: Assistant US Attorney wil Wolfe specifically prohibited the agents from 296 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: asking about incriminating terms of previously released emails, specifically the 297 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: quote ten held by h for the Big Guy, or 298 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: asking any questions about quote Dad or the Big Guy. 299 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: So she made clear you're not allowed to ask about 300 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. We are protecting if the whistleblower is what 301 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: they're saying is true. She was specifically building a wall 302 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: to protect Joe Biden. Now, before they embarked on the interview, 303 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: the agents discovered that the night prior, on December seventh, 304 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, FBI headquarters notified Secret Service headquarters and word 305 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: of the plan reached Hunter Biden. So the day before 306 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: the interview, FBI tips off Hunter, hey, we're going to 307 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: come by and question you tomorrow, and as a result, 308 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: on December eighth, they learned that their plan to interview 309 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden changed in the new plan, including providing the 310 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: Secret Service in Hunter Biden's with the agent's telephone numbers 311 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: if they wished to interview him. Afterwards, the agents received 312 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: phone calls from Biden's counsels indicating that they were to 313 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: contact Hunter through council. So what it means is the 314 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: agents were prevented from doing what's called a knock and talk, 315 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: which is showing up and talking to Hunter Biden in 316 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: a spontaneous way in which he could reveal critical information 317 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: or falsehoods. Instead, the FBI gave him the heads up 318 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: to prepare with counsel so that he could he could 319 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: work with lawyers to make sure they knew exactly what 320 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: he said. Two days later, on December tenth, agents met 321 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: with prosecutors to discuss the fact that Hunter had vacated 322 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: the Washington d C. Office of OWASCO and his documents 323 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: went to a storage unit in northern Virginia. The IRS 324 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: prepared a search warrant to search the storage unit, but 325 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: the assistant US Attorney Wolf again objected. The investigators pressed 326 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: the issue with the US Attorney Weiss, who ultimately stated 327 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: that well, if the storage unit wasn't accessed for thirty 328 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: days agents could execute. 329 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 9: A search warrant on it. 330 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: However, after the investigators completed their call with the US 331 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: Attorney Weiss, they discovered that Assistant US Attorney Wolf had 332 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 3: contacted Biden's counsel and told them about the storage unit. 333 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: In other words, if he has incriminating evidence, the Department 334 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: of Justice gave his lawyer's heads up in time to 335 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: get rid of whatever incriminating evidence was there. That is 336 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: not how you conduct a criminal investigation, calling ahead and saying, hey, 337 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: here's where we'd like to search. We'll let you know 338 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: what we're looking for, but we're just giving you the 339 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: heads up ahead of time in case there might be 340 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: something there you don't want us to see. 341 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me let's put this into non political terms. 342 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: You as a lawyer for people that maybe don't have 343 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: context here, and a lot of people don't have dealings 344 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: with the FBI or with investigators in their entire life. 345 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: Does any other American I'm talking rich, poor, black, white, 346 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: Republican Democrat or anywhere in between, do they get tips 347 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: normally from the FBI calling you saying hey, we're going 348 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: to come over and maybe look at something tomorrow or 349 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: in the next couple days or the next thirty days, 350 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. Maybe people say, well, that may 351 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: happen to other people. We don't know if that's necessarily 352 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: just a perk of being the last named Biden. How 353 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: abnormal is it center for that to happen to anyone 354 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: in this country. 355 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: It's extraordinarily weird. Look, search warrants are typically obtained in secrecy, 356 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: specifically to avoid the destruction of evidence. 357 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 9: Think about it. 358 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: If you're executing a search warrant on a drug dealer 359 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: and you say, hey, we're going to search this warehouse tomorrow, Well, 360 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: you think you're gonna find any drugs there? I mean, 361 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: only the stupidest criminal on earth if you tell them 362 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: where you're going to search, will leave evidence there. And 363 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: the fact that the Department of Justice gave them a 364 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: heads up, Hey here's where they're planning to search. That 365 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: suggests possible obstruction of justice. Because if you tell a 366 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: witness who has evidence of a search ahead of time 367 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: in order to enable that witness to destroy the evidence, 368 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 3: that constitutes obstruction of justice. 369 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: So let me ask you another question, and I know 370 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: the answer, but just to put it in perspective, what's 371 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: the point of investigating a person for any crime if 372 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: you tell them in advance to hide and destroy the 373 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: evidence of the crime that we're about to investigate, unless 374 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: you're fixing that investigation to make sure purposely you find nothing. 375 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: Well, they don't quite want to find nothing nothing. And 376 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: we've talked about this on the podcast at length. Hunter's 377 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: being set up to be the patsy, to be the 378 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: fall guy. So Merrick Garland can say, I indicted to Biden. 379 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: I indicted a Trump. I'm very even handed. Now let's 380 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: go after Trump with everything we got. But he's being 381 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: set up to be a patsy with a very soft fall, 382 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: not a day in jail. So the serious crimes, Nope, 383 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: don't look at it, and especially especially especially do nothing 384 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: that implicates Joe Biden. And so doj assuming these allegations 385 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: are correct, walls off. Joe Biden says nothing about the 386 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: big guy. But it's not just protecting Joe Biden. They're 387 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: also making sure that Hunter Biden avoids the most serious consequences. So, 388 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: for example, US Attorney Weiss, according to the allegations from 389 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: the whistleblower, attempted to bring tax charges against Hunter Biden 390 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: in the district of Columbia for alleged misconduct in twenty 391 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 3: fourteen and twenty fifteen. And by the way, that included 392 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars in Barisma derived income. He never reported, 393 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: Barisma being the Ukrainian natural gas company that is also 394 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: alleged to have made a five million dollar bribe to 395 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. 396 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 9: The dad. 397 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: US attorney Weiss wanted to bring the case in DC 398 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: around March of twenty twenty two, but he was denied. 399 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: US Attorney Wis sought special council status from DOJ in 400 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: spring of twenty twenty two, and he was denied. And 401 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: he also attempted to bring charges in the Central District 402 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: of California in the fall of twenty twenty two, which 403 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: was denied in January twenty twenty three. 404 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 9: Now why does that matter. 405 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: It matters because the District of Columbia and californ d 406 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 3: C was the sole venue for hunters twenty fourteen through 407 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen tax crimes, and California was the sole venue 408 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: for the twenty sixteen through twenty nineteen tax crimes. And 409 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: whistleblower number two, who would be the gay Democrat who's 410 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: married another man, maintains that venue was not proper in 411 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: Delaware for any of these tax charges. So what happened 412 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: is the most potentially serious tax charges, and we're talking 413 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: about millions of dollars in tax evasion. According to this allegation, 414 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: DOJ prevented those charges from being filed until after the 415 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: statute of limitations passed, until after the period at which 416 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden risked real jail time. 417 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: That also means that when you and when others have 418 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: talked to Mert Garland under oath at Congress, that he 419 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: would have had to have been willfully and purposely lying 420 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: to you. 421 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? 422 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: Going back to the possibility Kevin McCarthy talking about this 423 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: from an impeachment standpoint, and how would that actually work? 424 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: And before you answer that, let me tell you about 425 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile. 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Quote because 456 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: the allegations from the IRF, because the whistleblowers and the 457 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: DJ or Garland, what are you saying and what David 458 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: Weiss are saying privately are two different things. So talk 459 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: and walk us through what happens next when it comes 460 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: to Garland and is his job really in jeopardy here? 461 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: I think it's in very serious jeopardy, and I think 462 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: he's in real jeopardy of criminal prosecution. If these allegations 463 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: are correct, I believe the Attorney General likely committed at 464 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: least one, if not multiple, felonies. The Attorney General flat 465 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: out said under oath that there was no political interference 466 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 3: in this investigation. The Attorney General has also said that 467 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: David Weiss could pursue whatever facts he saw fit and 468 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: could bring whatever case he wanted. If these whistleblowers are correct, 469 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: that David Weiss wanted to bring a case in DC 470 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: and was denied, wanted to bring a case in Central District, 471 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: California and was denied. If the allegations are correct, the 472 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: Department of Justice repeatedly blocked search warrants and tipped off 473 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden to search warrants that were being executed. All 474 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: of that means that what Merrick Garland said was flat 475 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: out false, and that people reporting to Merrick Garland, very 476 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 3: possibly at his direction that has not yet been determined, 477 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: were obstructing justice. But look, the most damning element of 478 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 3: these IRS whistleblower testimonies is what was uncovered during an 479 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: electronic search, which is a July thirtieth, twenty seventeen text 480 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: exchange from the encrypted messaging service WhatsApp, and it was 481 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: between Hunter Biden and Henry Zoo, who is a Chinese 482 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: national who is an executive of CEFC China Energy and 483 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: a communist party affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party of 484 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: the government. We talked about this WhatsApp quite a bit 485 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: on Monday's pod, but I want to read it again 486 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: because it is central is the single most important element 487 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: of this testimony. 488 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, hey, by the way, before you read it, I 489 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: want everybody to count something. Count how many times in 490 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: this text message that Hunter Biden invokes his father sitting 491 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: next to me, he's next to me? Count how many times? 492 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 2: Because it's clear that this shows what we've all suspected, 493 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden is nothing more than a bagman and 494 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: all the real juice is coming from the big guy. 495 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: So here's the WhatsApp from Hunter quote. I am sitting 496 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: here with my father, and we would like to understand 497 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: that's two why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. 498 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: Tell the director that I would like to resolve this 499 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight, 500 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: and z if I get a caller text from anyone 501 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: involved in this other than you, zanger the chair, I 502 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: will make certain that between the man sitting next to 503 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: me that's three and every person he knows that's four, 504 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you 505 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here 506 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: waiting for the call with my father. 507 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: That's five five times. 508 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 9: So five times he invokes daddy. 509 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I'm running this business and the kingpin, 510 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: the godfather is sitting next to me, and five times 511 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: you know who's really running the business. 512 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: Now that they're only a handful of possible responses that 513 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: Hunter and Joe Biden could could could put to exonerate themselves. One, 514 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: they could say this is false, that that that this 515 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: message was never sent, it's fraudulent. 516 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 9: That's that's possible. I don't think it's terribly likely, but 517 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 9: they could say that, Uh, they haven't said that. 518 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: Two, they could say, well, yes, Hunter said it, but 519 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: he was lying. Joe Biden wasn't sitting there with him, 520 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: even though he was threatening government retribution from his father. 521 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: Hunter was freelancing and doing on his own. Joe knew 522 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: nothing about it. That's a second possibility. They haven't said that. Instead, Well, here, 523 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: look at listen to what number one. Listen to what 524 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: Joe Biden said when he was asked whether he was 525 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: lying when he said he never discussed business dealings with 526 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: his son Hunter. 527 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: There's music there. 528 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: It's very clear that you hear him yell no, implying 529 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: I didn't lie about never speaking to Hunter about my 530 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: business dealings. 531 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: Did you ever lie? No? He says it there clearly, 532 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: and he's irritated. 533 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: No, and that's it. He hasn't said that this was 534 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: that message is false. He hasn't said that he wasn't 535 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: sitting there with Hunter Biden. He hasn't said that that 536 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: Hunter didn't have a was freelancing and doing it on 537 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: his own. He just is flat out stonewalling. Nope, I 538 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: never lied. Piss off. I don't have to tell you anything. 539 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not just Joe Biden that 540 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: is saying no, piss off. Listen to the White what 541 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: the White House press folksperson said when confronted about the 542 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: very clear conflicts between what the Department of Justice has 543 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: said and what the IRS whistleblowers have said. 544 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 5: Don last week, does the White House leeve Betorney General 545 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 5: Garland committed perjury when he testified under a Delaware US 546 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 5: Attorney David West coopering terms outside. 547 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Of this district. I don't have any comment on this, Anita, 548 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and tend to Steven. 549 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm moving on, Anita, I love that part. I'm moving 550 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: on right, Steven, shut up, I'm moving on. 551 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: Notice, it's the same thing John Kirby said. I'm not 552 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: going to answer you. Nope, I'm not going to tell you. 553 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: By the way, there's no reason that she can't answer. 554 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: There was no reason why John Kirby couldn't answer other 555 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: than oh crap, this is a really hard question. This 556 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: is a bad question. We're in trouble, so we're not 557 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: going to address the facts. We're not going to give 558 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: a denial. We're not going to say it's false. We're 559 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: just going to say no, that's our answer. We will 560 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: not answer. And by the way, what the hell's wrong 561 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: with ABC News? How come they didn't cover it? What 562 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: the hell's wrong with NBC, CNN, MSNBC Are they actually 563 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: do they even pretend to be news organizations anymore? Are 564 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: any of them sitting there going wait? Why is CBS 565 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: covering this? And what are we doing? 566 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Not only that, but I want to go back to 567 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: what you read earlier, that text message, and it's being 568 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: reported now by the New York Post and Marina Divine 569 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: that after that WhatsApp text was sent right where Hunter 570 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: is warnings now that if he does not comply quote, 571 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: I'll make certain that between the man sitting next to 572 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: me and every person he knows, am I ability to 573 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not 574 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: following my direction. I'm saying here waiting for the call 575 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: with my father. Apparently Center within a week, five point 576 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: one million was wired to Hunter by CEF HE, according 577 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: to bank records published now by Senator Chuck Grassley and 578 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: Ron Johnson that actually was published back in September of 579 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. You now connect that with this whats app text. 580 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: The payment of five point one million showed up within 581 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 2: a week. We already knew that, we just didn't know 582 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: about this WhatsApp text well. 583 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: And it certainly suggests that the Chinese communists we're afraid 584 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: of retribution from Joe Biden. And notice Hunter's Hunter's message 585 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: where he says, tell the director that I would like 586 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, 587 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 3: and now means tonight. You know, when's the last time 588 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: you've texted someone with that kind of assumption of authority 589 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: that you've got them where it hurts and they got 590 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: to do what you want. 591 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 9: Now means tonight. You're not allowed to get back to 592 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 9: me tomorrow. 593 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: I want the five point one million tonight or the 594 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: big guys coming after you know. To be clear, that's 595 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: a paraphrase. May not be what it meant, but it 596 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: sure sounds like it. 597 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: When you invoke the guy five times sitting next to you. 598 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: To me, that's exactly what it means. And I don't 599 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: think that's stretching at all to imply that in any capacity. 600 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: I also want to ask you about the compromising aspect 601 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: of this, and before I do that, I want to 602 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: tell you about Chalk. 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They shot it down after the fact, 628 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: you start looking at how China has been able to 629 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: do things militarily without basically an American response. You look 630 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: how weak Anthony Blincoln looked when he went and met 631 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: with the Chinese. Recently, you look at what China has 632 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: been able to do pretty much anywhere around the world, 633 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: even in things in the Middle East as well as 634 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: with Russia. And you gotta wonder, is it because Joe 635 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: Biden is compromised. And there's also another part that irks me, 636 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: the fact that you can control possibly the agenda of 637 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: the United States of America for five point one million 638 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: to him and five point one million to his son. 639 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: That also just scares the hell out of me. Center 640 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: that ten million dollars can control a nation. It almost 641 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: offends me that that's how little they it took for 642 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: them to be an essence bought off. 643 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you, Ben, if this WhatsApp is accurate. 644 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: You know who also had a copy of it, Henry Zau, 645 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: which means the Chinese Communist government had it. And this 646 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 3: was sent in twenty seventeen. Presumably the Chinese Communist government 647 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 3: has had it since twenty seventeen. 648 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 9: That's six years ago. 649 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: It's incredibly damning when it came out now, but it 650 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 3: would have been incredibly damning if it came out six 651 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: months ago, or a year ago, or two years ago 652 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: or three years ago, or in the middle of the 653 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: presidential campaign. If it had come out in the middle 654 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 3: of the presidential campaign, it might well have cost Joe 655 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: Biden a ton of votes. It might well have kept 656 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: him out of the White House. And so that's an 657 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 3: awful lot of ability for the Chinese Communists to have 658 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: an ACE card up their sleeve. Not to mention the 659 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: specific records of what money was wired to whom and 660 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: what it was for. You have to assume this WhatsApp 661 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: is not the only communication. Notice that this is in 662 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: the middle of an ongoing discussion, and we might know 663 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: more of that if the Biden DOJ had not been 664 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: tipping Off's lawyers or even the Trump DOJ, because some 665 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: of this was the deep state, was Democrats in the 666 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: Department of Justice who were obstructing this or at least 667 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 3: allegedly obstructing this investigation early on. 668 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 9: And I do want to. 669 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: Note the CBS report made a big point of emphasizing 670 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 3: Trump appointed US Attorney David Weiss. As we talked about 671 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: on Monday's podcast, US attorneys are appointed only with the 672 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: approval of the senators from that state. In Delaware, there 673 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 3: are two Democratic senators, Chris Kuns and to Chris Coons 674 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 3: and Tom Carper. The two of them had to have 675 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: signed off on David Weiss or he never could have 676 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: gotten appointed. And so as much as the media wants 677 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 3: to lean into Trump appointed, there's nothing about David Weiss 678 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: to suggest he is in any way, shape or form 679 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: a Trump partisan. 680 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. We're going to keep covering this. 681 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: And if you think that the Democrats are going to 682 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: bail on Joe bid and you're probably wrong, new poll 683 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: out just to put it in the back of your mind. 684 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has reached the lowest VP net favorability rating 685 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: in NBC poll history. VP Harris is officially the most 686 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: unpopular vice president of American history, with a net negative 687 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: rating of negative seventeen according to the most recent NBC poll. 688 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: That means that the for all intents and purposes, at 689 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: least as of right now, the Democrats are stuck with 690 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and they're going to have to protect them 691 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: at all costs. Don't forget download this podcast three days 692 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: a week if there's big breaking news. We will also 693 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 2: get it to you on days when we don't normally 694 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: publish Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. 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