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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday at Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with

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Speaker 2: Carmeen and me. Happy NFL Draft Day three. We're currently

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Speaker 2: in the fifth round, and you guys, remember, don't sleep

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Speaker 2: on these late round picks, because what we had the

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Speaker 2: goat Tom Brady, who was a sixth round pick.

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Speaker 3: As Carmen just reminded me, he won't let you ever

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Speaker 3: forget that.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you ever forget it. Pick number one ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: We go brock Purty, very last in the draft.

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Speaker 5: Who irrelevant quotation marks not so irrelevant after all.

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Speaker 2: We can't call that mister irrelevant anymore after that. But

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Speaker 2: what an emotional couple of days, right, I love seeing

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Speaker 2: these big men cry, especially in the first couple of rounds,

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Speaker 2: going on stage picking up Roger Goodell and just kind

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Speaker 2: of swinging him around like.

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Speaker 5: It's just or you get the guys that are completely

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Speaker 5: stone faced and like the second and third rounds who

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Speaker 5: thought they were should be taken in the first. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they're all like their families. I like pipe them up

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Speaker 5: and they're just completely like.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't go where I wanted to go. So no,

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Speaker 3: I'm upset. It's like, Bro, you were yourself.

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Speaker 4: You were fine, you were drafted, you were drafted.

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Speaker 3: You're in the NFL, like you were drafted into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Now prove it. I get it because it's like you.

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Speaker 2: Said, hey, use all the motivation you can get what

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Speaker 2: signing bonus isn't going to be as big each round

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Speaker 2: that you go down, So like, I kind of understand that,

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Speaker 2: but just like.

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Speaker 5: But if you ball out, then you don't have that

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Speaker 5: fifth year option on the table, and if you're not

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Speaker 5: in the first round, so they get paid.

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Speaker 2: Earlier silver linings, but not on yourself. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: come on, like, appreciate the moment. It's your entire life's

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Speaker 2: work and dreams coming true in this moment. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We've got some great guests for you

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Speaker 2: guys today. We got NFL writer Nick Shok joining us

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Speaker 2: in thirty minutes to talk all things draft. We have

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Speaker 2: Lions reporter Danny Rogers joining us live from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Have you been to the horse races out here yet?

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Speaker 4: I haven't yet. Actually, it's weird, weird enough.

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Speaker 5: We lived here when I was like six, oh, and

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Speaker 5: we used to live right by the Santa Anita Ratio.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so as a child, it's a time I've

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Speaker 2: been to.

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Speaker 3: Saner Okay, so we should go back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I remember placing, like placing a bat again in quotation marks,

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Speaker 5: Like going up to the little window with my dad

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Speaker 5: and being like, I think this horse is gonna win.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's all I feel. Anyway, I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: is the coolest name? Yeah, that's what I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: for all right, Well back to the draft, you guys,

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Speaker 2: because let's be honest, Detroit nailed the vibe.

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Speaker 3: Day one draft attendance was a record.

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Speaker 2: More than two hundred and seventy five thousand people were

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Speaker 2: there for Day one. The previous record was two hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand in Nashville and twenty eighteen. They had legends come out.

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Speaker 2: They had Eminem, they had Megatron, they had Barry Sanders

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Speaker 5: Guys Anna Hutchinson. You had Domin Ross and Brown fresh

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Speaker 5: off that contract. Yes, you had Jared Goff.

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Speaker 2: The entire crowd it was like still like figuring out

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Speaker 2: the contracts that need, yeah, help me do after this season.

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Speaker 5: But it was really funny because Amen Ross Saint Brown

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I also happened to think, I mean, all those guys

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Speaker 3: For as honestly, well, it's a party.

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Speaker 2: Day two, they had the National Chances Michigan football team

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Speaker 2: which is okay, but let's start the show with the

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Speaker 2: biggest WTF surprises in the draft, and I think everybody

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Speaker 2: being a top quarterback isn't. The WTF surprise is the

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Speaker 2: a four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar contract

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Speaker 2: with one hundred million guaranteed. So you would think if

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Speaker 2: they're in that win now super Bowl mentality or bust,

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Speaker 2: they would go out, maybe get them some weapons. But

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Speaker 2: don't have a problem with Atlanta stocking up on the

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Speaker 2: this draft class was. Kirk Cousins is coming off a

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Speaker 2: major injury. This is insurance for their future. What I

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Speaker 2: do find weird was all the conversation that they said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna tell kirk Cousins if we decide to drop

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, and then word came out that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: No, he was not call when they were on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you already have a little bit of miscommunication,

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Speaker 2: possible awkwardness with Kirk on a new team in a

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Speaker 5: I don't like anything about this. I don't like it

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Speaker 5: from a team building standpoint. I think it's irresponsible to

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Speaker 5: if you are in win now mode, which again you

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Speaker 5: the field, even with the NFC in general. Why you

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Speaker 5: first overall pick your best case scenario, And what Terry

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Speaker 5: Fontna said was that we're cool if he doesn't play

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Speaker 5: for the next four or five years. So you're going

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Speaker 5: to forego the biggest cheat code in the NFL, which

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Speaker 5: is having a quarterback on a rookie deal in favor

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Speaker 5: not getting Kirk Cousins some help in the first round.

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Speaker 5: And if you knew that you were going to draft

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Speaker 5: going to draft a quarterback, why in the world do

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Speaker 5: you pay Kirk Cousins not only that one hundred million guaranteed,

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Speaker 5: ninety million of that guaranteed came when he signed on.

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Speaker 4: The dotted line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you are paying that, Like that is insane

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Speaker 5: for a quote unquote bridge quarterback now, which is what

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Speaker 5: Kirk kirk Cousins has been, no matter how many years

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Speaker 4: I totally understand why Kirk is.

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Speaker 5: Pissed because he's or why he's mad because he said

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Speaker 5: if you're Michael Pennix Junior, I feel bad for him too,

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Speaker 5: because he is not a developmental prospect like JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 5: or everybody likes to compare.

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Speaker 4: The situation to join Love and the Packers.

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Speaker 5: First of all, packer'sn't the only ones that can get

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Speaker 3: Three years at ben Rogers.

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Speaker 5: And also you had Aaron Rodgers for a long time.

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Speaker 5: He started on a decline when you drafted Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: Now he went and had two MVP seasons after that,

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Speaker 4: So I don't like comparing those two situations.

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Speaker 5: I don't like this for Michael Pennox Junior because he's

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Speaker 5: an older quarterback prospect with injury issues as well. He

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Speaker 5: would do well to play right away, and now you're

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Speaker 5: gonna let him sit and get cold, and then what

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Speaker 5: come into the league at twenty six years old in

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Speaker 5: a couple of years when you can get out of

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins contract. I don't like anything about this. I

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Speaker 5: don't think this is a smart team building at all. Now,

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Speaker 5: if Kirk gets injured, yeah, and that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And he is coming off a major injury, why did

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Speaker 2: Why did you? Because they needed someone They probably didn't

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Speaker 1: With a A.

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Speaker 4: I get that. I just don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Again, they're not going to be.

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Speaker 2: This was Rahie Morris's quote, not knowing if they're going

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Speaker 2: to be able to pick this high again because of

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Speaker 2: the guy that they got in Kirk Custins.

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Speaker 5: Again, so makes it weird that you spent a top

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Speaker 4: Now, if you think you're going to be good.

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Speaker 2: They said, Kirk is our quarterback, but adding Michael Pennix

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Speaker 3: So again, like it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: The initial shock was like wait, why, wtf, like you

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Speaker 2: just got this. But the silver lining in all of this,

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Speaker 2: like it could be good for his development. You never

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Speaker 2: behind a veteran quarterback who was well liked in this

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Speaker 2: part is Kirk was not aware of this and he

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Speaker 2: a new team. But the good news we all know

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Speaker 2: Kirk is a great guy, like if you you've personally

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Speaker 2: worked with him. But for all of us, we got

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Speaker 2: to see kind of behind the curtain on the Quarterback Series,

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Speaker 2: and I think everyone really fell in love with Kirk there.

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Speaker 2: And then we heard from Pennix recently who shared that

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Speaker 2: he actually had a conversation with Kirk.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it, you know, just between me and

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Speaker 4: him right now, you know, but it was definitely a

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Speaker 4: good conversation, and you know, I'm super excited to work

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Speaker 2: So I mean, he said, what you have to say.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, but that's all you say in

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Speaker 2: this moment.

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Speaker 5: I again, I'm gonna say this. I still do not

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Speaker 5: like it. Also, now, say Kirk does struggle a little bit, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because he has thirty six coming off an achilles injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now is how it is?

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Speaker 3: This is biggest injury he's ever recovered from.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, this is the biggest injury you can recover

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know why we're treating it like there's

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Speaker 5: a whole conversation for another time. Is who Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 3: But so maybe that's what they saw. Maybe that's what

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Speaker 3: Of course he does great place.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to do anything about this. I don't

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Speaker 3: No, but it happened, So it happened.

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Speaker 3: What's done is done.

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Speaker 3: It was a WTF moment, every fan reaction, every media reaction.

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Speaker 2: There were so many things that, like I thought might happen,

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen to John.

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Speaker 5: I mean the fact that this is what we're talking

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Speaker 5: when you're looking at this quarterback class, he doesn't really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that was his offense.

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Speaker 5: Like all Also, Sean Payton is going to be bullish

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Speaker 4: So now you he needs.

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Speaker 3: It's Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: He needs to.

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Speaker 2: He also needs to prove like you made the right

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Speaker 2: So this is what he needs. But guys, we have

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Speaker 2: And then we saw them kind of like goofing around

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Speaker 5: toughness of it, for the violence of it all. That's

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Speaker 5: why Lance Briggs is my favorite player. But that is

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Speaker 5: not the fun, flashy football that we see now. And

444
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Speaker 5: the Bears have never been fun and flashy. That's never

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Speaker 5: been them. But then you bring in a guy like

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Speaker 5: Kayleb Williams, who was the definition of fun and flashy

447
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Speaker 5: and productive and confident. The call of him getting the

448
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Speaker 5: call Ryan Paul's is like, yeah, they're making me wait

449
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Speaker 5: five minutes on this or wait till the five minute

450
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Speaker 5: mark to do this. But you know, like it was

451
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Speaker 5: so like it was so uneventful because these guys have

452
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Speaker 5: been talking and they've known that this was the case

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Speaker 5: for months. I just I can't wait for Chicago to

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Speaker 5: have something to celebrate. But I want to caution against

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Speaker 5: having these expectations right away. On paper, they look amazing.

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Speaker 5: They look like they could contend for the division. They

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Speaker 5: look like they're a playoff team. All of the team.

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Speaker 3: I think they're a playoff team.

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Speaker 5: I think that they're going to I will think they

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Speaker 5: will flirt with playoff contention, Okay, but I don't want

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Speaker 5: that to be the expectation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's going to be the expectation with all

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Speaker 2: the hype around a generational talent like him.

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Speaker 4: I don't like calling him a generational talent either.

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Speaker 5: I don't like it at all. We have these generations,

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Speaker 5: we just say that's what everybody was saying Trevor Lawrence was,

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Speaker 5: and Trevor Lawrence is a great player. But when you

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Speaker 5: put the label of generational on these guys, you're putting

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Speaker 5: so much.

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Speaker 4: Pressure on them.

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Speaker 5: And in a city like Chicago that is a football

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Speaker 5: town through and through, despite their lack of recent success,

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Speaker 5: I don't want those expectations on this group, especially because

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Speaker 5: they're all new. Keenan Allen is new, Roma Dunes, a

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Speaker 5: new Kayleb Williams new, they've got new offensive line, they've

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Speaker 5: got a new offensive DeAndre Swift you've got a new

477
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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. You need to give these time, these guys

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Speaker 5: time to figure it out, and you need to make

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Speaker 5: sure that the defense is what you think it is

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Speaker 5: and what it was in the back half of last season,

481
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Speaker 5: which was a top five unit. That as long as

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Speaker 5: you see that progress and the way that they're kind

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Speaker 5: of gelling, and by the end of this next season,

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Speaker 5: if they look like a playoff caliber team, whether or

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Speaker 5: not they're record.

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Speaker 3: You're saying year two, give it to year two. Let's

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Speaker 3: see what happens.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is hold off judgment, hold off expectations.

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Speaker 4: Entire year two. It is in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Especially with all of the hype around a guy.

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Speaker 5: And especially with the on paper the roster, because you

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Speaker 5: look at these guys and yes, the Bears have DJ Moore,

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Speaker 5: Keenan Allen, and then Roma Dune say, is your wide

494
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Speaker 5: receiver three? Yeah, that already he could be the best

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Speaker 5: wide receiver three in the entire league.

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Speaker 4: But I don't want to put that expectation on him.

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Speaker 2: You're coming to the NFL, all the expectation is going

498
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Speaker 2: to be on you, especially when you had the number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick and you're a team that has never

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Speaker 2: had a quarterback throw more than four thousand yards or

501
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Speaker 2: never had thirty touchdown passes in a season.

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Speaker 3: There are going to be high expectations regardless there.

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Speaker 4: Which is wild to me because the bar is so low.

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Speaker 4: That's where I'm.

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Speaker 2: Break those like success exactly. Yes, I have an exciting season, compete.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, that is. That is what I want. I don't want.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to put playoff expectations. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to put division expectations, especially when you're in a division

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Speaker 5: with the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers, and then

510
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Speaker 5: whatever Minnesota ends up being. This could be tough, the

511
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Speaker 5: toughest division. It's going to rival the AFC North. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to put expectations of like.

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Speaker 3: Hardware, there is hard expectations.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to put those on them.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to do it.

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Speaker 5: And this team, Yeah, Well, to his credit, he's not

517
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Speaker 5: shying right from it.

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Speaker 2: No, and he shouldn't. That's why I think it's going

519
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Speaker 2: to work out. He knows, Like again, he came from

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Speaker 2: a big time school. He's had big time awards, and

521
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Speaker 2: he's an nil guy who's made big time money.

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Speaker 5: All right, and that I do think his transition to

523
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Speaker 5: the league will be a little bit easier because of that.

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Speaker 5: I think just in general, these guys taking accountability for

525
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Speaker 5: themselves their careers and being businessmen really aids in transitioning

526
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Speaker 5: to the NFL lifestyle. But on the field, I mean

527
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Speaker 5: Caleb's coming out of the PAC twelve. I I listen,

528
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Speaker 5: I'm a PAC twelve girl. I went to Arizona State.

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Speaker 5: I have under no illusions of how hard the PAC

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Speaker 5: twelve is. It's not so now. You are not going

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Speaker 5: up against SEC competition. You're not even going up against

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Speaker 5: some of the big, big time players, big hitters in

533
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Speaker 5: the Big Ten. You were going up against the PAC

534
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Speaker 5: twelve for the most part, with marble defense.

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Speaker 2: With a horrible he literally he literally got owned, yes,

536
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Speaker 2: like he got destroyed.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's.

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Speaker 5: Good because that gives him a little bit of adversity.

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Speaker 5: You're going to face adversity with the Chicago Bears in

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Speaker 5: year one. That is what the NFL is about. It

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Speaker 5: is a when, not if, when it comes to facing adversity.

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Speaker 5: O Ye, how he reacts, That's when I think I

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Speaker 5: will have more expectations of Kayleb Williams is after seeing

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Speaker 5: how he reacts to the inevitable adversity that will happen

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Speaker 5: in his first year in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: I'm just so excited.

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Speaker 3: All right now, Let's check in with Martin Wise to

548
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Speaker 3: see what's treading.

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Speaker 7: Milwaukee Bucks point guard Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 9: He's diagnosed with a Grade one Achille strain, doubtful for

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Speaker 9: Game four of the playoffs tomorrow at Indiana. The Pacers

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Speaker 9: lead the series two games to one. Cavaliers at the

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Speaker 9: Magic in Game four of the four or five series

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Speaker 9: in the East, Orlando one one, twelve to eighty nine,

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Speaker 9: series now tied two apiece. Franz Vogner thirty four points

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Speaker 9: thirteen rebounds, Thunder and the Pelicans down in New Orleans.

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Speaker 7: Thunder lead the series two to nothing.

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Speaker 9: They also lead at halftimes sixty to forty six, shake

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Speaker 9: Gilgers Alexander with fifteen points.

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Speaker 7: At the end of regulation.

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Speaker 9: In hockey, the Carolina Hurricanes and the New York Islanders

562
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Speaker 9: tied two apiece, going to overtime there at Carolina leads

563
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Speaker 9: the series three games to nothing, so the Islanders.

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Speaker 7: Fighting to extend their season.

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Speaker 9: In the NFL draft, who saw the fifth round just

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Speaker 9: conclude about eleven picks.

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Speaker 7: Ago had two major quarterbacks go there.

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Speaker 9: Jordan Travis is now going to be Jordan Travis from

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Speaker 9: Florida State is not going to be a New York Jets.

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Speaker 9: Spencer Rattler from South Carolina is going to be a

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Speaker 9: New Orleans Saint. Last couple picks in the draft so far,

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Speaker 9: we have eleventh pick in the sixth round, Casey Washington

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Speaker 9: to the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 7: That's the Illinois wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: Jakes McKellen running back from Alabama also going to the

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Speaker 9: Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 7: And Jordan Won of jo and drives his favorite targets.

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Speaker 9: Johnny Wilson, why receiving from Florida State is a Philadelphia Eagle.

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Speaker 7: Alex and Carmen back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Alex Courrie Heer with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from a Tirek dot Com studios in Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 2: it is time to bring in our first guest, someone

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Speaker 2: that I got to know in Vegas at the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and I'm so excited to have on our show.

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Speaker 3: Please welcome NFL rider Nick Shook.

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Speaker 6: If it isn't my two favorite ladies in the business,

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Speaker 6: how are you o?

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Speaker 5: Fabulous lattery will get you everywhere, now keep it and

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Speaker 5: I have known each other full disclosure, Shok and I

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Speaker 5: have known each other for years now.

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Speaker 2: Oh I no, you introduce. You introduced you brought the

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Speaker 2: crew together.

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Speaker 5: The crew together, and we were like that. We went

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Speaker 5: to that bar at the Cosmo like multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's where NFL Network was saying, and that's

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Speaker 2: where like, that's great when all these big events happen,

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Speaker 2: the hotel lobby.

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Speaker 3: Bar is where everybody meets everybody.

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Speaker 6: That's just the way life works, especially that week it

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Speaker 6: was down there. It was big. Was there at some

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Speaker 6: point j R? Smith? Farman vitally outside?

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Speaker 4: Oh I forgot we saw Jr. Smith clear I love it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Nick.

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest surprises day one at the draft

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Speaker 2: the Falcons taking Michael Pennix junior, despite just giving Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins a four year insane contract this offseason.

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Speaker 4: What are your.

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Speaker 2: Initial thoughts and how do you see this playing out

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta?

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Speaker 6: So initially I laughed because the timing of it, obviously

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Speaker 6: is an ideal and it's head scratcher you know, because

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Speaker 6: you just spend all that money on a quarterback. But

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Speaker 6: what we failed to recognize, I think in snap judgment,

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Speaker 6: is the fact that Kirk Cousins is thirty six years old,

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Speaker 6: He's coming off of a torn achilles. He was the

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Speaker 6: most mobile dissarly. But it's going to affect pocket navigation, right,

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Speaker 6: So why not plan for the future with a guy

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Speaker 6: that you fell in love with, with the guy who

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Speaker 6: has probably the best arm in this.

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Speaker 4: Then don't get another guard.

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Speaker 2: You're you're you're helping my opening argument. You're helping my.

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Speaker 5: Open Can you believe I am on an island here

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Speaker 5: in think?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: This is it's the future you got. Do you think

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Speaker 3: about the beach coming up? An achilles injury?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: You're injured?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely great?

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Speaker 3: Okay, keep going next?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 6: The majority of everybody is saying that too, And I

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Speaker 6: think they didn't handle the process well. Not informing Kirk

635
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Speaker 6: that they're even considering it until they were on the

636
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Speaker 6: clock is not good. That's poor business, right. But when

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Speaker 6: you're talking about roster construction and long term planning, Look

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Speaker 6: how many quarterbacks started the game last year? I can

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Speaker 6: tell you sixty six. You know how work every single

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Speaker 6: one of them on a week by week basis.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of guys.

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Speaker 6: Need good insurance. And the Falcons just spent the last

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Speaker 6: three years living in quarterbacking no man's land. It was

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Speaker 6: Taylor Heineke, it was Marcus Marionta, it was des and Ritter.

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Speaker 6: None of them panned out, and they were good enough

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Speaker 6: to potentially make the playoffs even with bad quarterback play.

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Speaker 6: They finished seven to ten each of those years. Right,

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Speaker 6: So why not We'll give you a backup that you

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Speaker 6: might actually like and would like to see at some

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Speaker 6: point if Kirk does go down or he has issues

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Speaker 6: with the abilities or whatever, and also somebody we can

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Speaker 6: plan for a long term. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 6: the complaints is, well, he's been in college for so long.

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Speaker 6: He's not like he's coming out at twenty one years old.

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Speaker 6: Who cares, He's still in his twenties. He's ten years

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Speaker 6: younger than Kirk Cousins. And if you really love the guy,

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Speaker 6: say you want two good years out of Kirk and

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Speaker 6: then he starts to fall off a cliff and you

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Speaker 6: can get out of that contract as a post June

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Speaker 6: first cut in twenty twenty six, it's twelve and a

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Speaker 6: half million dollars a dead cat. That's nothing compared to

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Speaker 6: what we see other teams bite the bullet forar with

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Speaker 6: guys like Russell Wilson with Denver RIGHTOK, why not plan?

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Speaker 6: I got it?

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Speaker 4: I got it?

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Speaker 5: But he answer me position, Please answer me the question

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Speaker 5: of what the biggest cheek code in the NFL is.

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Speaker 10: Well speed number one and two two trenches and I

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Speaker 10: would reverse that.

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Speaker 5: No, No, it is having a quarterback on a rookie

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Speaker 5: contract that is productive and a good quarterback for you

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Speaker 5: because you don't have to spend the money on that contract.

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Speaker 5: You are wasting years of Michael Pennock Junior's rookie contract,

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Speaker 5: which affects how you can build your team because by

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Speaker 5: the time that you have to play him, you're gonna

676
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Speaker 5: have you're going to be up against his next contract

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Speaker 5: at that point without having a full evaluation on who

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Speaker 5: he is as a quarterback. Not to mention what happens

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Speaker 5: if Kirk struggles a little bit, but it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 5: have to do with the injury, or he's not actually hurt,

681
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Speaker 5: he's just struggling. Then you have a guy that you

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Speaker 5: drafted top ten breathing down his neck and now you

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Speaker 5: have a quarterback position, a quarterback battle, and that is

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Speaker 5: not good for anyone. That's not good for the locker room.

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Speaker 5: That's not good for the two quarterbacks that are involved.

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Speaker 4: It could be a total mess in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: I get planning for the future, but if you thought

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Speaker 5: you wanted to plan for the future this year, then

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Speaker 5: get the Bridge quarterback and then draft this guy. I

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Speaker 5: know that they're picking eighth, but you if you absolutely

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Speaker 5: needed a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: We saw the Minnesota Vikings get their guy.

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Speaker 5: Regardless, Atlanta absolutely could do that because guess what, they

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Speaker 5: picked three spots ahead of the Vikings original pick. So

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Speaker 5: I can't get on board with this. I think it's irresponsible.

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Speaker 5: And yes, how they handled it with Kirk Cousins, I

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Speaker 5: feel bad for the guy, and I feel bad for

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Speaker 5: Michael Penick Streeter because he deserves to play right away.

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Speaker 10: Okay, but it's time going to come back to you

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Speaker 10: with this, and I love you because we can go

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Speaker 10: back and forth and things like this until this on

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Speaker 10: sets and then.

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Speaker 6: Rising again and we double edged sword.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 10: We definitely do.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 6: It's a double edged sword because the rookie contract is

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Speaker 6: great except when you have to throw that rookie into

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Speaker 6: the fire and he doesn't deliver a la Zach Wilson

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Speaker 6: with the Jets, Suddenly that rugby contract doesn't matter. In fact,

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Speaker 6: you're parting on the rookie contract because you're getting out

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Speaker 6: of that cheaper rate. That's the compromise. That's the compromise

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Speaker 6: that they failed to do when they went and sign

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins. Exactly what the other side is too, is

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Speaker 6: if Kirk struggles, If he does struggle, he was going

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Speaker 6: to struggle whether Pennix was there or not. So it's

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Speaker 6: still a better position to have Pennix there than not,

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Speaker 6: I think, in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: I just I think your best case scenario, Kirk goes off.

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Speaker 5: He's the quarterback you think he is, and you hate

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Speaker 5: sit Michael Pennix, you her for.

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Speaker 7: Years, all right.

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Speaker 6: I have to say I'm shocked after that. You have

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Speaker 6: been the lead that you've been, You've been the lead

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Speaker 6: voice on the Jordan Love experiment, and the blocks is.

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Speaker 5: Not no, we went down. This is not Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: This is not the situation with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you have a rookie quarterback sitting

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Speaker 2: behind a successful veteran who was well like, who's you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to learn and developed.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers was there so much longer he had started

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Speaker 5: to fall off a cliff when they drafted Jordan lev Also,

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Speaker 5: green Bay has a track record of this working out

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Speaker 5: for them. Also, also they don't have own an owner

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Speaker 5: that has these extra pressures that every other team does

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Speaker 5: on decisions like this, so they can afford to be patient.

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Speaker 5: Nowhere else in the league can anybody else get away

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Speaker 5: with that? It is green Bay and green Bay only

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Speaker 5: Not to mention, like, like I said, they've done this

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Speaker 5: multiple times, so you can trust them.

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Speaker 4: I do not have that trust. Not to mention, who

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Speaker 4: does the.

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Speaker 5: Owner have the trust? Wet it might not be there

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Speaker 5: by the time we're going to agree.

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Speaker 2: To disagree on this with Carmen. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: Bears real quick. So we only have you for a

747
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Speaker 2: little bit longer, a couple of minutes longer. Taking Caleb

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Speaker 2: number one, they stuck with offense with their second pick,

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Speaker 2: taking Rome at number nine. Now, they have never had

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Speaker 2: a quarterback throw more than four thousand yards in a season,

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Speaker 2: had a quarterback throw more than thirty touchdown passes in

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Speaker 2: a season. How quickly do we see these two playmakers

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Speaker 2: improve Chicago's offense.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's an instant improvement, But I

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Speaker 6: also think that the standard was pretty low to begin with.

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Speaker 6: You just kind of pointed it out so fast. It's

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Speaker 6: actually remarkable when you dig into some of these franchises,

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Speaker 6: how few of them have actually had quarterbacks routinely break

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Speaker 6: four thousand yards considering where a quarterback play is. But

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Speaker 6: like Joe Flacco with the Browns was the first quarterback

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Speaker 6: in franchise is three to throw for three hundred plus

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Speaker 6: in four straight games and they've been around for like

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Speaker 6: seventy years. Okay, it's insane that some of these franchises

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Speaker 6: haven't experienced you know, last year.

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Speaker 5: And seasons weren't as as common as they were like

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Speaker 5: you know up until like fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: A strong time.

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Speaker 6: So I think that you'll see an improvement. But I

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Speaker 6: also don't want to place such high expectations on Caleb

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Speaker 6: Williams that he's just going to come in and transform

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Speaker 6: the franchise overnight. They are a lot better on paper

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Speaker 6: than they were two years ago. And last year, that

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Speaker 6: defense came around to the back half of the season

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Speaker 6: last and really, you know, proved to be their strength,

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Speaker 6: and all they really were missing is offense. And since

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Speaker 6: then they've upgraded the receiver room tremendously with Keenoan Allen

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Speaker 6: and Roma Dunsay. And then you have the quarterback. But

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Speaker 6: it's going to be an acclamation process for the guy

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Speaker 6: because he's still a rookie and he still is going

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Speaker 6: to have to work out some kings. No quarterback comes

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Speaker 6: out of the NFL perfect, right. There are some guys

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Speaker 6: who are generational talents. You could see Andrew luck types.

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Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence was advertised as that to begin with. Then

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Speaker 6: he went through one year of Urban Meyer and it

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Speaker 6: was rough. It was rough before he got back on

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Speaker 6: track and even and then he still kind of hit

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Speaker 6: or missed some times. Last year was a season full

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Speaker 6: of near misses for him and the entire Jaguars offense.

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Speaker 6: So I think the same thing could be true for Caleb.

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Speaker 6: So let's exercise some patience here. Keep the optimism high though,

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Speaker 6: because last year.

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Speaker 10: Everyone was talking about the Bears.

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Speaker 6: They're going to go back to the playoffs. They're gonna

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Speaker 6: be a better team if you talk to Bears fans,

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Speaker 6: and they obviously didn't live up to those expectations. It

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Speaker 6: was easy to do that. Coming this time around, I

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Speaker 6: could entertain such a notion.

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Speaker 5: We are about me and I were back on the

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Speaker 5: same page. I've got Yes, I've got one last really quick.

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Speaker 5: Who's going to be the tougher division, AFC North or

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Speaker 5: NFC North.

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Speaker 6: That's tough. I'm gonna go NFSTY North. And maybe that's

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Speaker 6: a bit of homers and because I live in Cleveland

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Speaker 6: and that's where I'm doing this all from right now,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, that's I mean, that's it, that's it.

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Speaker 10: That's a damn good division.

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Speaker 6: It was a damn good division last year. I mean

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Speaker 6: the Steelers, the Browns, the Ravens all made the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: and the Bengals they were a Joe Burrow away from

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Speaker 6: being in the playoff run as well. They were in

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Speaker 6: the playoff for like.

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Speaker 10: The last two weeks.

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Speaker 6: So every team in that division could win the division,

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Speaker 6: and every team in that division could come out as

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Speaker 6: one of the favorites in the AFC not named Kansas

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Speaker 6: City right now, So I have to go with the North.

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Speaker 6: But I love that the NFC North is rounding into form.

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Speaker 6: It's always a good division to be competitive.

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Speaker 2: Nick, you were awesome can. We're gonna we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: you back.

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Speaker 3: On again real soon.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us. Love it all right

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Speaker 2: when we come back the dudes and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Ooh, that's it, there

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Speaker 3: we go. Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex

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Speaker 3: Curry here with Carbon Vittally.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Explosive like the Bears offense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but as you said, no high expectations, so.

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Speaker 4: Explos it without me having expectations. That's time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, they can. It's one of my favorite lines.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, and it's time for the dues and

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Speaker 2: the don'ts in sports highlight.

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Speaker 1: I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 3: The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 4: Are you on crack?

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of good things for the dues

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Speaker 2: and the domes. I'm gonna start with a funny do

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Speaker 2: celebrate your accomplishments. Jim Harbaugh gets a fifteen and O

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Speaker 2: Michigan tattoo in honor of their national title this season.

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Speaker 2: When I saw it, like the social media posts, I

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Speaker 2: was like, no, that can't be.

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Speaker 3: That can't be real.

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Speaker 2: Right on his shoulder, like his shoulder the M and

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Speaker 2: the fifteen and oh that's it.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna rocket for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 5: Do you see his face? Yes, deadpan, and then he

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Speaker 5: like looked at it. He's like smiled and yeah, no

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Speaker 5: very dad.

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Speaker 2: Big big Harba fan who's also like living in his RV.

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Speaker 4: Out here in California. Thank he's moving now.

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Speaker 5: He did, but he did, all right, I do call

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Speaker 5: your shat okay because new Bears offensive tackle Kieran a

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Speaker 5: megan A Megga gee, gosh, this is gonna a Megga gee.

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Speaker 4: I got it right. I got it right. Grew up

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Speaker 4: in Chicago, actually went to.

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Speaker 5: My rival high school, and last year met Matt ebra

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Speaker 5: Flute at the golf club that his dad belongs to

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Speaker 5: and told Matt Ebraflues he was going to play for

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Speaker 5: his hometown team that Now all of these tweets are surfacing,

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Speaker 5: like him saying things.

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Speaker 4: About the Chicago Bears like just along with the rest

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Speaker 4: of us, like all of.

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Speaker 5: Our our the thoughts about the Chicago emotions, like justin

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Speaker 5: Fields and Justin Field's only cool, uh and and releasing

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Speaker 5: the episodes.

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Speaker 4: So about releasing the.

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Speaker 5: Entire offensive line a couple of years ago, which is justifiable,

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Speaker 5: don't get me. Especially he's an offensive lineman, so he

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Speaker 5: knows what he's looking at. Yeah, hilarious, Absolutely love it.

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Speaker 5: This is what happens when you get a hometown guy.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get a guy with a lot of heart

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Speaker 5: and Riotbles loves that.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do have fun with draft Knight and family messages.

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Speaker 2: We got a little bit of everything here. But Drake

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Speaker 2: May's brothers had a message for him once he was

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Speaker 2: drafted third overall the Patriots, and it was hilarious.

884
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: You expect like emotional things.

885
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: His first brother pretty boy, next one overrated, and final

886
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: a beach.

887
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: I like, you know, I made that a little.

888
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: PG, but he just starts hysterically laughing, which he said, which.

889
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: Is hysterical because Drake May is not little.

890
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: And then you had Caleb Williams mom's message and he's

891
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: just like I was crying watching it, Like it was

892
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: just the emotion everything around this night and this moment

893
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: and what it means for all these athletes, Like I

894
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: was crying the next day, like watching all their hype videos,

895
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: like with them being drafted and then like the momage

896
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: of all their top plays.

897
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: I adore that, And honestly, that's why I really like

898
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: Drake May because he's the youngest of all those boys,

899
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: and so you know.

900
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: That he's like he can take.

901
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: He's been a punching back his whole life.

902
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: All right, I've got it, don't Okay, But it's like

903
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: a positive don't don't doubt your friends. Because the Vikings

904
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: put out a video after they traded up to get

905
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: Dallas Turner. Yeah, and it's a close shot of Kevin

906
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: O'Connell's face and it says and Questy's coming over and

907
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 5: Questy dopaments o their general matters coming over and he's saying,

908
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: we're getting him Turner, and Kaos just looks He's like really,

909
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: and the smile spreads across his face, his eyes get

910
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 5: super wide. It's the most memorable thing I've ever seen

911
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: in my whole life. But like, these guys work so

912
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 5: well together, and I'm getting to cover them as a

913
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: joy because it really does seem like Quissy and KOs

914
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 5: are in lockstep, and so Kevin O'Connell is just so

915
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 5: thrilled about this. I love that, and I'm like, why

916
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 5: did he even doubt? Don't don't, don't doubt, Quissy, no

917
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 5: doubt he got him. Now that they have, they got

918
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: their quarterback taken away or you know, squared away. So

919
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: now they went out and got one of the best

920
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: offensive players in the draft.

921
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Speaker 4: It was wow, good job, Viking. That was great.

922
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Speaker 3: Okay, do match your shoes to your car.

923
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but Luca pulled

924
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: up in a sixty eight Camaro matching his Jordan's. They

925
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: were this pink and purple swirl vibe our love, and

926
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Speaker 2: the car had like a little like Jordan like emblem

927
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Speaker 2: on the back of it.

928
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Speaker 3: It was so swaggy, so beautiful.

929
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 4: We love a white boy with swag, we do, we do.

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00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: I just love all kinds of swag because swag is confidence.

931
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Speaker 2: And if you got confidence and swag, like, we're fine,

932
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Speaker 2: everything's gonna be all right. Okay when we come back.

933
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Speaker 2: Six quarterbacks went in the top twelve. But who will

934
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Speaker 2: succeed and who will fail?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna break that down. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our two Fox Sports Saturday and Alex Curry

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Speaker 2: alongside Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live Entire dot Com

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Speaker 2: studios in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: They thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Krmee

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Speaker 3: and me.

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Speaker 2: We've got Lions reporter Danny Rodgers joining us live from

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Speaker 2: Detroit in about thirty minutes and happy NFL Draft weekend.

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Speaker 3: You guys.

944
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: I got to start out by giving a mad shout

945
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Speaker 2: out to the Rams for absolutely crushing the vibe.

946
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

947
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: Here in LA they built a full football field on

948
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Speaker 2: the beach in our town of Hermosa Beach, and kids

949
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: have been like playing on it all week.

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Speaker 3: They're keeping it up through I think like Tuesday or Wednesday.

951
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't realize.

952
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: Next week they had their like draft party, like where

953
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: they were actually making their selections.

954
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, at one of the top party houses in Draft House.

955
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: They do a draft house every year.

956
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: I mean I've reached there, like they have.

957
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Speaker 2: They throw some of the best parties in town.

958
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: I love that.

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: Oh Yeah, I liked like the Rams take full advantage

961
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: of being in La slash like southern California, and I

962
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 5: like that there they were highlighting like different areas.

963
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Malibu last year than they did her Mosa

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00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: Beach this year.

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Speaker 3: Stand to the beach town which like.

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Speaker 5: I was taking my walk and down the beach and

967
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 5: I on Wednesday and I was like I smelled something.

968
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: I was like, what does that smell? And then I

969
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: turn and look over and they're painting the turf.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, they have like full turf on the

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00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: beach here.

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Speaker 4: We just had a ton of activations on a a.

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Speaker 3: Job that's beautiful. They absolutely crushed it.

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Speaker 3: We do now comen.

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Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of crazy things go down this

988
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: week weekend during the draft, fourteen offensive players went before

989
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: a single defensive player. Bill Belichick so on showing some

990
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: personality on the Pat McAfee show. I don't know if

991
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: you saw that.

992
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: It was like a lot it was.

993
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: It was the most like personality. It's it's like what

994
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: he's been holding back the whole time.

995
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: He could have been fun.

996
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: He could have been I mean there was the dog

997
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: like during the COVID. Yeah, like you saw that. I'm like,

998
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: all right, well he must have more personality. Yeah, then

999
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: we're giving him credit for.

1000
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: We also saw Roger Gondell dropping hints that he would

1001
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: like to replace a preseason game with a regular season game.

1002
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: Bringing it to eighteen games.

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00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time. I mean, stuff like

1004
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 4: that ends up happening.

1005
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was.

1006
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: One of the first to respond, saying, so like two

1007
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: bye weeks, but then that would put super Bowl to

1008
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: President's d a weekend, giving everyone that Monday off after

1009
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl, which, like.

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Speaker 4: I don't, I don't hate that idea as long as

1011
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 4: you did.

1012
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 5: You would have to put it in two bye weeks

1013
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: at this point because now with the bye weeks getting

1014
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 5: later and later, it's some teams are going fourteen weeks without.

1015
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: A buy, which is nuts.

1016
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1017
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 5: And I get that you get the mini bue if

1018
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 5: you play Thursday, and if your team does it, it's

1019
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: it's not the same. And it puts undue pressure on

1020
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: these guys, especially now that we're having a Christmas game

1021
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 5: on why.

1022
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry about that.

1023
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 4: I'm just never gonna see my family for a major holiday.

1024
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 4: It's nime no.

1025
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: But but you're going in sports like I like knew

1026
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: that going in. I was like, hey, I'm gonna miss weddings.

1027
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss But you don't celebration.

1028
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 5: Christmas every single year because you figure that if Christmas

1029
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: falls on a Wednesday, I don't know.

1030
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: I can go on and I in studio, I've worked

1031
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, Christmas the last.

1032
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Speaker 4: Oh I've done. I do it all the time.

1033
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: But you just you think that maybe maybe a couple

1034
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 5: of years you get actual time with your.

1035
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: Family psych not in sports.

1036
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: Well, so yeah, athletes, you've got to be going on something.

1037
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 5: I have already fired us today about the Pennix Junior.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

1039
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, we're about to get into that like kind of

1040
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: again because the other crazy thing is we saw twelve

1041
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: quarterbacks go in the top twelve. That was the most

1042
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: ever taken. So we're going to go through and explain

1043
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: who we think is going to succeed or fail and why.

1044
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: So let's start at the top. Number one. Caleb will

1045
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: going to the Bears. I think this will work. They're

1046
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: taking a completely different approach to their offense this season,

1047
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: instead of putting all the pressure on a rookie quarterback

1048
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: just like hey, go figure it out, which was kind

1049
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: of what happened to justin Fields. It was like there

1050
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: was a kidski before him, and yeah, they're giving him

1051
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: some weapons and surrounding him with pieces that will help

1052
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: him succeed.

1053
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 3: And we saw that Thursday night with the number one pick.

1054
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Instead of getting the edge rusher, as they said off

1055
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: the top of the show, they went and got a

1056
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: top weapon for Williams with rome A Donsay, And like

1057
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: obviously they added Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, they have DJ

1058
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Moore that there's more of an offensive focus for this

1059
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: Bears team than we have ever seen this.

1060
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: Literally in my entire lifetime. I want to give Ryan

1061
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: Holes a flowers because this was a very curated, intentional

1062
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: plan that he put in place as soon as he

1063
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 5: got to the Chicago people act like they lucked into

1064
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: the first overall pick after trading with Carolina, if you

1065
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: don't think that Ryan Poles was taking stock, because first

1066
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: of all, the Bears had multiple offers and moved down

1067
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 5: last year from the number one overall pick, which they

1068
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: earned down to number nine, which ended up being with

1069
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 5: the Panthers, because there was multiple offers, and Ryan Poles

1070
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: looks at the Panthers and goes, yeah, I could bet

1071
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: that they're gonna have a high first round pick, and

1072
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 5: sure enough, they got him the number one overall pick.

1073
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 5: So much so that the Bears having the number one

1074
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: overall pick and Caleb Williams going to the team picking

1075
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: first overall was such an incredibly unique situation because the

1076
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 5: Bears did not Yes, the Bears did.

1077
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Speaker 4: Not warrant the number one overall pick.

1078
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 5: They have a better roster than most teams picking number

1079
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: one overall have, so this was an opportunity to take

1080
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 5: advantage of having an actual environment to develop a young quarterback,

1081
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: which the Bears have never had.

1082
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned before, the Bears have never had that guy.

1083
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: They've never had a guy throw more than four thousand

1084
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: yards in a season they've.

1085
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: Been in a quarterback, They've never set that guy.

1086
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing is, they never set a guy up

1087
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: for success to do that. Ever, that I'm.

1088
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 5: Talking about franchise history, talking experience here where this entire

1089
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 5: franchise has had a defensive identity for the last five

1090
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: in the past, Mass.

1091
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: Good luckman is the last guy that you can hang

1092
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: your hat on as the Chicago Bears quarterback.

1093
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 5: And that was so long ago that the game has

1094
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: completely changed. So now you get the fun, you get the.

1095
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: Flashy football and kaylab Williams is the definition. We talked.

1096
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: We talked about it, you know, last Hour is the

1097
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: definition of fun and flashy and on paper this should work.

1098
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the show, Chicago Bears. Good job, Ryan,

1099
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: feel like you have finally arrived. Good job Bryan Polls

1100
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: to the new NFL. Okay, let's go to the second

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00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: quarterback taken Jaden Daniels to the Commanders, the Heisman winner

1102
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: out of LSU. This is a lot of new for

1103
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: the Commanders. You got a new owner, a new coaching staff,

1104
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: new head coach, new offensive coordinator, new.

1105
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: Quarter a lot of new guys on the roster.

1106
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: It's a lot of new now they did pick up

1107
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: some new familiar faces, if Austin Eckler, if he can

1108
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: stay healthy veteran presence, which is great. But this one's

1109
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: tough for me because there is so much new. It's

1110
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: a lot of positivity, there's a lot of hope, but

1111
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: because everything is so new, I feel like I need

1112
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: to wait a month and see, like, just is it jelly?

1113
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 4: So yes, yes, this is great.

1114
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Keep expect temper expectations, different different expectators.

1115
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: Is by no means the same. This is not the

1116
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: same at all. CARNI, I am not allowed.

1117
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: High expectations for the Bears and Caleb Williams, I don't like.

1118
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: This is new owner, new coaching staff, new quarterback, a

1119
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: lot of new faces on this roster.

1120
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's so old it is rebuilt.

1121
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: It is and I appreciate.

1122
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: You know, Jayden and Daniels was responsible for all of

1123
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 5: LSU success last year because that defense was horrendous. So

1124
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 5: Jane Daniels had to go put up forty to fifty

1125
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 5: points every single game, and I watched him do it

1126
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 5: very impressively. He's gonna fit right into Cliff Kingsbury's offense. Yeah,

1127
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: he never went under center at LSU. Jane Daniels didn't,

1128
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: and Cliff Kingsbury doesn't ask his quarterbacks to go under center,

1129
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: so that's great. But yeah, he's gonna have Daniels kind

1130
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 5: of still pushing the ball down the field with the

1131
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 5: remnants of that air raid offense that Cliff Kingsbury used

1132
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 5: in college, which he took some of that to go

1133
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 5: to the NFL. The one concern I have is Cliff

1134
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: Kingsbury trying to make Jade and Daniels into Kyler Murray.

1135
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: They are two different players, and I think Jayden Daniels

1136
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: absolutely scrambles. He is not a running quarterback. That is

1137
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 5: the differentiation is not He knows how to scramble and

1138
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 5: he will do it. Yeah, but you like he's not

1139
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 5: big enough to at the NFL level to design runs

1140
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: for him like this. This kid is like I know,

1141
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 5: he weighed in at the combine like over two hundred

1142
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: pounds and that was like soaking wet after probably drinking

1143
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 5: two gallons of water. Like, there's no like, he doesn't

1144
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: weigh that much and he's very small. So we're going

1145
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: to have to have a good offensive line that can

1146
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: protect him. Now, granted, Jane Daniels can't get himself out

1147
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: of trouble. He's done that. But yeah, he has a

1148
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: tendency to look down when he's scrambling and doesn't necessarily

1149
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 5: see guys open down the field. So that's something you're

1150
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: gonna have to coach him up on all that other stuff.

1151
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 5: I just don't want him to I don't want Coff

1152
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 5: Kingsbury to make try to make Jane Daniels t Kyler Murray.

1153
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see so succeed or fail.

1154
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: I Jerry the jury, right, I hate I'm a glad

1155
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: of tempering expectations.

1156
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: Are you kidding? Okay, let's see how this all goes.

1157
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: Let's go to number three, Drake may to the Patriots.

1158
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: First reaction, I was a little surprised they didn't trade

1159
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: down for a haul, because yes, they needed a quarterback,

1160
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: but they need so many other things too. They don't

1161
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: have star receivers, star weapons and protection.

1162
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: They're online ring twentieth.

1163
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: Last season, defense was middle of the pack, fifteenth in

1164
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: points allowed per game. Once again, a lot of new

1165
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: new head coach and Jared Mayo who's never been a

1166
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: head coach before. It feels kind of like a similar

1167
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: situation to Jones of like this. I think Drake May

1168
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: is in the toughest rookie situation.

1169
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's basically Bryce Young from last year.

1170
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think this is And.

1171
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 5: Like I get so, John Mayo was promoted from within.

1172
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: This was the succession plan. Apparently all along he had

1173
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 5: language written into his contract that he would succeed Bill

1174
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 5: Belichick when he.

1175
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: Was gone, So you have some continuity when that happens.

1176
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was begging the Patriots to have a

1177
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: little bit more self awareness for all of those reasons

1178
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 5: that you just mentioned, not to mention when the stuff

1179
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: that we heard from the Vikings after picking JJ McCarthy,

1180
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: it very much reading between the lines, sounded like they

1181
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: were prepared to give the Patriots both of their first

1182
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: round picks this year and next year's first.

1183
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1184
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: So to turn down three first round picks to then

1185
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 5: take Drake May who was now coming into a terrible

1186
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 5: situation under so much pressure.

1187
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: I know of Drake May no protection.

1188
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 5: I don't think Drake may is the project that people

1189
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 5: were making him out to be in the last couple

1190
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 5: of weeks. I think that was more to get him

1191
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 5: to fall. I think he is a great quarterback, with

1192
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 5: an even higher ceiling. Yeah, but you are not setting

1193
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: him up for success in the one. I tweeted right

1194
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 5: after this happened that I was bummed, and this is

1195
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: the reason, because I want to see Drake may set up.

1196
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: To succeed, because I think that he could.

1197
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: Be one of these incredible caliber quarterbacks. But only so

1198
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: much of what determined success in this league.

1199
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: For a quarterback.

1200
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 5: The supporting cast is the supporting cast, and what situation

1201
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 5: they go into and New England just doesn't.

1202
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: They don't even need the bare bones, they don't have anything.

1203
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: They need so much, they need so many a haul,

1204
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: they needed.

1205
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: All and they didn't get down three for cos I

1206
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: don't know.

1207
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1208
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: Okay, let's move on.

1209
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: We don't have number with so many quarterbacks get there.

1210
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: I know we've okay, we've already talked about this one

1211
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: a bit. At number eight, Michael Pennock Junior going to

1212
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: the Falcons.

1213
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: This was the biggest w started.

1214
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: Again situation for most Atlanta fans, But it happened. So

1215
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: let's dive been a little bit because two things can

1216
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: be true in this situation against me. Now, this could

1217
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: actually be a great learning situation for Pennix to develop,

1218
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: even though it's an awkward situation for Kirk Cousins. Okay,

1219
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that Pennix was a top pick. He's

1220
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: a pure pocket passer. He has great accuracy. He's got

1221
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: a beautiful throw and spin on the ball. The weird

1222
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: part of this whole situation is that the Falcons just

1223
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: paid Kirk Cousins one hundred and eighty million dollars over

1224
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: four years with one hundred million guarantee, and he didn't

1225
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: get the heads up that they were taking a quarterback

1226
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: until they were on the clock. That is the uncomfortable,

1227
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: irresponsible miscommunication.

1228
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 5: Part of this whole situation is irresponsible. So thing is irresponsible.

1229
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm not gonna let you have this without

1230
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 5: challenging it.

1231
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will challenge you right back, because now

1232
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: they have two great quarterbacks at the most important.

1233
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: Position you can't play in the league. You can't.

1234
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: But you also have Kirk Cousins, who's an older, coming

1235
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: out order quarterback coming off of the biggest injury that

1236
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: you can come off of late in his career. He

1237
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: hasn't played a game since and this is this is insurance.

1238
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: As we heard them say Kirk Cousins is our quarterback. Now,

1239
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: Penis is Insurance. This is not a top ten pack.

1240
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: I think this will not.

1241
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 4: A top ten pack.

1242
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: I'm going to say this is going to work.

1243
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: No, I'm going to say this is going to be horribly,

1244
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: horribly wrong. And I'm so sorry to Michael Pennix because

1245
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: this is not his fault. It was not his choice,

1246
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 5: and I wanted Michael Pennix to start right away.

1247
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: He is ready to start now, and I am.

1248
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 5: I am so much in favor of giving guys time

1249
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 5: to ease into the NFL. So a bridge quarterback to

1250
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: the Michael Pennock junior era in Atlanta would have been phenomenal.

1251
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: A plus love that this is not that you do

1252
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: not pay a bridge quarterback one hundred million dollars guaranteed.

1253
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 5: That is not the thing here. And to create a

1254
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: quarterback competition for both, He's going to be a Dutchman

1255
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: to both. There is no way that you did not

1256
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 5: make things worse for Kirk Cousins by drafting Michael Pennock junior.

1257
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 5: And there is no way that you playing Michael Pennock

1258
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 5: junior without something bad happening to Kirk Cousins or taking

1259
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: something away from Michael Penick Junior later on down the line.

1260
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 5: It's completely like the cap hit that Kirk Cousins has.

1261
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: Even if Michael Penix Junior plays in two years, that's

1262
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 5: gonna affect him.

1263
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 4: Like this is just I don't even have words.

1264
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: I know you don't think it's going to succeed.

1265
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the next quarterback at number ten,

1266
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy to the Vikings.

1267
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: This was the first trade up.

1268
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: One spot, just one little spot.

1269
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: But I could see this working. He's a national champion

1270
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: who's coach. Like Harbad had been raving about him.

1271
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: He's coming into a situation that will help him succeed

1272
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: with a lot of good pieces in place. They have

1273
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver death, they have a good O line. They

1274
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: were twelve last season. The only hesitation is the NFC

1275
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: North is now a stacked division. The Lions proved they

1276
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: are the top team last year. Packers and Jordan Love

1277
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: did well, Bears getting the number one pick in Caleb Williams.

1278
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: Vikings did sign Sam Darnald this offseason.

1279
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 3: So is there a world where they sit JJ.

1280
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: Yes behind Sam? Or is it a straight up quarterback

1281
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: competition here?

1282
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, You're not doing that again with

1283
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: a first round, top ten pick. What you're doing is

1284
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: you're bridging the Kirk Cousins era with the JJ McCarthy era,

1285
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: and you are letting Sam Darnald be the guy to

1286
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: start so you can ease JJ in because JJ does

1287
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 5: need reps, he needs development. He is the project, but

1288
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 5: he has the traits that Minnesota really liked.

1289
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 4: And he's coming into a situation.

1290
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 5: Where you have a former quarterback and head coach, a

1291
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: former quarterback as your quarterbacks coach.

1292
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: You also have tons of weapons justin Jefferson, Jordan Madison,

1293
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 4: T J. Hockinson, Aaron Jones.

1294
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 5: Now you have a good offensive line and you got

1295
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: a defense that could potentially be top five, especially with

1296
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: the addition of Dallas Turner. Now, so you can ease

1297
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: him into this situation when you feel like he is ready.

1298
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: This is the exact situation in Minnesota. Is what you

1299
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 5: want for your young rookie quarterback, you could I think

1300
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: that that situation is even better than the Bear situation.

1301
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 5: The Bear situation is the best a first overall pick

1302
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 5: has come into. Yeah, the situation in Minnesota is the

1303
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 5: best situation of a rooking.

1304
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: Quarterback team to help him succeed.

1305
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is the best of the of this draft.

1306
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 5: This is the best situation a quarterback is coming into

1307
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 5: is in Minnesota. I think this is absolutely going to work,

1308
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: and I think it's going to take a little bit

1309
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: of time, but in the long haul the Bikings. Bikings

1310
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 5: are going to be better for it because while they

1311
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: may there was rumors they want to drink may while

1312
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 5: they may not have gotten their ideal quarterback, they got

1313
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 5: the ideal situation when they got to get J. J.

1314
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: McCarthy and Dallas Turner that now opposite hit of Jonathan Grenard.

1315
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 5: That the who they got from the Texans this offseason

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 5: in free agency. Twelve and a half sacks last year.

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Speaker 5: So now you're gonna pair another guy on the other

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Speaker 5: side of him, another first round pick, potentially the first

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00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: you know, the best defensive player in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I love it so much.

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 7: With John Bacon.

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Speaker 2: One more at number twelve, Bonix to theos. Now, this

1323
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: was one of Carmens if you were listening in the

1324
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: first hour WTF moments, because she does not believe that

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00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: Bonick should be a top twelve quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Will he succeed.

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: I think yes, he has the most college experience out

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: of any quarterback prospect this year sixty one games. In

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: his last season at Oregon, he was second in passing yards,

1330
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: most passing touchdown, a Heisman finalist, and Sean Payton now

1331
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: has his guy. Boenicks fits the offense that Sean Payton

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: likes to run. And this is Sean Payton's chance to

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: show and prove he can do what he came to

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: Denver to do a lot of contents between Bow and

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, which is Peyton's.

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00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: Bread and butter.

1337
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: If he could be even a fraction of what Breeze was,

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: I think they will succeed.

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00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he can, if he can, if he can't.

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00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: So his experience in college, though, I also feel like

1341
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 5: works as a detriment to Sean Payton. Wants to mold him.

1342
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 5: Sean Payton wants to make him into the next Drew Brees.

1343
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: Sean Payton has the ego to think that he can

1344
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 5: do so well. Now Bonis is going to have to

1345
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 5: unlearn things from college and realize them under Sean Payton.

1346
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and its like, isn't that what like any college

1347
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: quarterback is doing?

1348
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: Once you get to the NFL like it's a different.

1349
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 5: Oh, lets you get a guy like JJ McCarthy who

1350
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 5: is very, very raw and needs and needs reps and

1351
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 5: is actually mobile like mold double there it is moldable

1352
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 5: five times fast. I like Bonix as a quarterback. Please

1353
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 5: do not get me wrong. He is a good quarterback.

1354
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 6: Game.

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Speaker 4: This was two years ago.

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00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: He would have absolutely been probably the first quarterback taken

1357
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 5: off the board. But I just can't get on board

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00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 5: with him being a top twelve pick and also being

1359
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 5: asked to be the guy in Denver because who else

1360
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 5: do you have?

1361
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson. That's that's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yikes, yikes.

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00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no, I don't think it's gonna I

1364
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna give Sean Payton the benefit of doubt

1366
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 2: and say, yes, all right, we're gonna take a quick

1367
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: break here, but when we come back. Is a Lakers

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: playoff run done?

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Speaker 3: Tonight?

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Speaker 2: We'll explain more next on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry alongside Carbon Vitally.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from Tar dot Com Studios in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Such a hype up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for spending Saturday afternoon with us, because we

1376
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: know there are so many things going on right now

1377
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: between the draft, baseball, playoff basketball, and we've talked about

1378
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: it all today.

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Speaker 3: Oh we sure have literally everything.

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Speaker 2: Except for what playoff basketball that's coming up next.

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Speaker 5: Now also coming up right after the show. Yeah, our

1382
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 5: podcast will be going up cool. If you missed any

1383
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 5: of today's show, be sure to check it out to

1384
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 5: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and

1385
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 5: be sure to follow, rate, subscribe, do all of those

1386
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 5: wonderful things and review the podcast. Just search Fox Sports

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 5: Radio and you'll see the show posted right after we

1388
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 5: get off the air. Alex and I will absolutely post

1389
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: it to our social media. Follow us to wonderful producers

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Speaker 5: getting it up right away.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well guys, let's get let's get to some

1393
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: basketball because I feel like tonight might be the last

1394
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: time I get to cheer on my Lakers because the

1395
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: Lakers are cooked.

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01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: Denver's that team like the West runs through Denver. Now.

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: They are the defending chain with the best player in

1399
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: the league and the joker, the best one two punch

1400
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: with the Joker and Jamal Murray and the Lakers have

1401
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: had leads in all three of their losses. You guys,

1402
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: they blew ten point leads in each game, led by

1403
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: twelve and game one, led by twenty, in Game two,

1404
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: led by twelve, and Game three. But the nail in

1405
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: the coffin was Murray's buzzer beater in Game two in Denver,

1406
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: with eighty falling into their celebration on the bench.

1407
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: That deflated That deflated the Lakers.

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: You could see it in their postgame presser to be

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: up by twenty in Denver, and if they were able

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: to bring the series back home tied one one, that's

1411
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: a completely different series, a completely different series. But it's

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: just the vibe in the locker room is off. I

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: talked to Lakers reporter, my friend Niki Ka, who told me,

1414
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: you know, they weren't pissed, which when you're down three

1415
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: games in a series you should be. It was more

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: of an acceptance that they know how much better Denver

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: is than them, And to me, that alone, right there

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01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: is a death sentence. But right now, let's check in

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01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 9: Milwaukee Bucks point Guardamian Lillard diagnosed with a Grade one

1421
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 9: Achilles strain. He's doubtful for Game four of the playoffs

1422
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 9: tomorrow at Indiana. The Patriots lead the series two games

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 9: to one, Cavaliers at the Magic at Game four of

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 9: the four or five series in the East, Orlando one

1425
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 9: eleven to eighty nine series now tied two games apiece

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01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 9: with Franz wagnerho had thirty four and thirteen rebounds in

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01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 9: that At the end of overtime, the Carolina Hurricanes and

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01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 9: New York Islanders still tied to a piece. They're moving

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 9: into the second overtime now with nine minutes forty two

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 9: seconds left in the first period, the Panthers trailing the

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 9: Lightning one to nothing.

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 7: Florida with a three to zero lead in that series.

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Speaker 9: Overall, the Jets have traded a defensive lineman, John Franklin

1434
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 9: Myers to Denver in exchange for a twenty twenty six

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Speaker 9: sixth round pick, less than a week after trading quarterback

1436
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson to Denver as well, and in the NFL

1437
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 9: draft the sixth round winding up right now, we had

1438
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Speaker 9: two different a few different placekickers get drafted right now,

1439
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 9: most recent one from Arkansas. Cam Little is now a

1440
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguar. Kamal Hayden, cornerback from Tennessee is now a

1441
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 9: Kansas City chief and Boston College offensive guard. Christian Mahogany

1442
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 9: a member of the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 7: Alex Carmen back.

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Speaker 3: To you guys, Thank you Martin.

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the tire

1447
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: dot Com studios in Los Angeles. Now, we talked about

1448
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: this off the top of the show. Just the vibe

1449
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: in Detroit, right with over two hundred and seventy five

1450
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: thousand they have attendance.

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: Now they have the all time record for all of

1452
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 5: the rounds. The governor of Michigan came out to announce

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 5: the Lions sixth round or fifth round pick and said

1454
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 5: that they now have seven hundred thousand in attendance accounting

1455
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 5: for all three days offt Oh, my gosh, Detroit is right.

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01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: Where do you football town?

1457
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 6: Like?

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: Where do you put all of those people?

1459
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about because they had a lot of

1462
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: legends passed and present in Detroit coming together for this draft. Megatron,

1463
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders, Eminem Jared kaff out there like they like

1464
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: those they brought out everybody. And the Lions had a

1465
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: legendary season last year, the first time in thirty two

1466
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: years that they won a playoff game. So how do

1467
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: you see them repeat and keep pace with the rest

1468
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: of the division with all those heavy hitters, because.

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Speaker 4: They've gotten better.

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Speaker 5: And I was very curious to see how Brad Holmes

1471
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 5: was going to approach the draft this year because of

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Speaker 5: the fact that in the last couple of years the

1473
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 5: Lions have needed everything. Yeah, and Brad Holmes is now

1474
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: infamous for taking best player available. You saw him and

1475
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 5: like his guy to not necessarily like anybody else's.

1476
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: Best player available.

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, last year you saw him take a running back

1478
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 5: in Jamiir Gibbs in number twelve, followed by a inside

1479
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 5: linebacker in Jack Campbell at number eighteen. Those two positions

1480
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: in particular almost never go in the first round. This

1481
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: is something that you can see you see teams get

1482
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 5: value for later on in the draft. Yeah, but it

1483
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 5: worked out because both Jamiir Gibbs and Jack Campbell are starters.

1484
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 5: Not to mention there the two second round picks after that,

1485
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 5: Brian Branch and Saan la Porta also starters, so he

1486
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 5: was able to take whoever was there that they liked.

1487
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 5: Now you don't have as many holes. Yeah, and I

1488
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: was like, okay, So now is Brad Holmes going to

1489
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: change up his draft strategy a little bit where he's

1490
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 5: going to go after the positions that he needs. And

1491
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 5: sure enough, that's what we've seen. They've traded up multiple

1492
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 5: times now I think three four times at this point,

1493
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 5: but even in the first everything, so they have corners.

1494
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they drafted.

1495
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 5: Multiple defensive backs because that was their biggest issue last

1496
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 5: year and the year before. They thought they addressed it

1497
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 5: going into last season, but then you get guys that

1498
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 5: are getting hurt.

1499
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 4: You had CJ.

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: Gardner Johnson go down after the second game of the season,

1501
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 5: and now you realize you have to insulate that position

1502
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 5: at all costs. So they went out and they got

1503
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: Terry on Arnold, who was arguably the best corner.

1504
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: In the draft.

1505
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 5: And then you keep going with this position group and

1506
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 5: sure enough trading up to get their guys. So it's

1507
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of a departure for Brad Holmes. I

1508
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 5: still think it's going to work and com Hell or Highwater.

1509
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 5: Destroit is going to field a complete secondary this season

1510
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: because that is not going to be what keeps them

1511
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 5: out of a Super Bowl run.

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01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, well, but let's look at the NFC North like

1513
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: in general, because I think it's shaping up to be

1514
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: one of the toughest divisions this season with some big

1515
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: new names. Obviously, Detroit like made their presence known last year,

1516
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: they are the team to beat in the NFC North,

1517
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: but like Green Bay and Jordan love like, I think

1518
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: surprise everybody with how great of a first full.

1519
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,959
Speaker 3: Season he had with this team.

1520
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: And then you have the Vikings getting JJ McCarthy, Caleb

1521
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: Williams going number one overall to the Bears.

1522
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: How do you see this division shaping up next season?

1523
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: That's why I you know, I asked Shook about it

1524
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 5: because last hour, he is in Cleveland, he's grown up

1525
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 5: a Browns fan.

1526
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 4: The AFC North was the toughest.

1527
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: Division last year for all the reasons that he mentioned,

1528
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 5: but the NFC North is coming for them this year. Yeah,

1529
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 5: because there are obviously the two obvious ones are Detroit

1530
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 5: who won the division last year, Yeah, and then green

1531
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 5: Bay who made it to the divisional round.

1532
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 4: With the youngest team in the league.

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 5: By the way, these guys are creating a foundation for

1534
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 5: sustained success. That's what Green Bay does very very well.

1535
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 5: They know how to build their teams. They've been doing

1536
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: it the same way for the last three decades. That

1537
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 5: is a tried and true method, and clearly Brad Holmes

1538
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 5: has a track record now too. These teams are now

1539
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 5: they've gotten the taste of winning. They know what it's like,

1540
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 5: especially in the Packers case, so they're gonna be tough outs.

1541
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 5: But then you have the newcomers in the Chicago Bears,

1542
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 5: who aren't used to recent success, but on paper have

1543
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 5: one of the most complete teams in the league right now.

1544
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 5: I don't know how that's gonna go in practice, which

1545
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 5: is why I want to temper expectations. And then no

1546
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 5: one's giving the Vikings a shot either, which I think

1547
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 5: is hysterical given the fact that you have the best

1548
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 5: receiver in football and Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, who was

1549
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 5: a breakout rookie last year, TJ. Hockinson, one of the

1550
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: best tight ends Aaron Jones now in your backfield. By

1551
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: the way, inner division.

1552
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 4: Was what the Packers was.

1553
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 5: They released him, Vikings picked him up, got a good

1554
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 5: offensive line, and now you've got a unit on the

1555
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 5: defensive side that could potentially be a top five team too.

1556
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 5: So I don't want to discount the Vikings because if

1557
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 5: this all goes according to play with JJ McCarthy and

1558
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 5: they're able to develop him by the halfway mark of

1559
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 5: this season, they're going to have a real push to

1560
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 5: make maybe sneak in the wild card.

1561
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1562
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put and expectations on the.

1563
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: Meme, but I'm gonna say top to bottom.

1564
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: Like looking just I have all the divisions up in

1565
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 2: front of me right now, top to bottom, NFC North,

1566
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: AFC North, it's gonna be. It's gonna be like every

1567
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: other division has like one to two teams that you're like,

1568
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: those are betting games, you know.

1569
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 4: You hear, I'll tell you what the Houston Taxans have. Yeah, And.

1570
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 3: But it's not.

1571
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: But it's not like there's a lot of top to bottom.

1572
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: It's still not top to bottom. Now, Okay, Day three

1573
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: is almost done with the draft. We've had a lot

1574
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: of legends come out of these late rounds. We kind

1575
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: of mentioned it, right like a Tom Brady who was

1576
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: a sixth round. We're currently in the sixth round right now.

1577
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: Do you see is there any big names that like

1578
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: you're kind of watching, like a late rounder that wasn't

1579
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: maybe a Day one that you're kind of keeping an

1580
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: eye on, thinking like this is someone to watch out for.

1581
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 5: It's interesting because of the guys that, especially any of

1582
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 5: the not so covering the NFC North's I'm very plugged

1583
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 5: into that division in particular. It's interesting because I think

1584
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 5: that the player that is going to have the most

1585
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: immediate impact, Yeah, is the Bear's last pick, which was

1586
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 5: a punter. You had Tory Taylor out of Iowa, who

1587
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 5: was the best punter in college table and got a

1588
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 5: ton of work because I was offense was absolutely atrocious.

1589
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Tory Tory was on the field more than

1590
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 5: their quarterback. I'm not kidding, like it was just sign.

1591
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 5: I get that he has a lot of experience. I

1592
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 5: get that he's the best punter. I'm never really gonna

1593
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 5: be on board with drafting a specialist because especially with

1594
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 5: I mean the fourth round, you can get.

1595
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: But they took the punter before they got their edge rusher, right.

1596
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: That was kind of because that was something big that they.

1597
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 5: Needed but they needed and I think it might have

1598
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 5: been one of the things where they didn't want to

1599
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 5: have to give up future assets to go and get

1600
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 5: a punter. But then I'm like, like, I understand both

1601
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 5: sides of it, Like that's a huge need. The Bears

1602
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 5: were not a good punting unit last year. But I

1603
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: caution against judging these guys from their body of work

1604
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 5: in college because the pro game is so different, even

1605
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 5: from a mental standpoint, Like, I'm old enough to remember

1606
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 5: Mark kicking, and he's a.

1607
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: Good friend of mine. I know we love Marquette, we do.

1608
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 5: But he lasted a couple of years in the league,

1609
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 5: did well, but then kind of fell off cliff and

1610
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 5: then I saw him punting in the USFL last year. Yes,

1611
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 5: and then I also when he comes to punters and kickers, kickers,

1612
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 5: I almost get more because of the rule changes. But

1613
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 5: I also was part of the Buccaneers that traded up

1614
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 5: to the second round to get apparently the best college

1615
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 5: kicker ever in Roberto Aguayo. Now I get the second

1616
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 5: round is completely different than the fourth, But it's just

1617
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: it's too much of a gamble for me to spend

1618
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 5: valuable assets on. Even though this punter is going to

1619
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 5: be the one to actually affect games for the Chicago Bears.

1620
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: I just hope it works out because otherwise that's gonna

1621
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 5: be kind of a blemish on what was otherwise a

1622
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,959
Speaker 5: fantastic draft for the Chicago Bears.

1623
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: It's just so crazy because again, every draft pick is

1624
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: a gamble, Like you don't know how somebody is going

1625
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: to pan out.

1626
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 3: Once they enter the NFL.

1627
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: It is a completely different game, different speed, bigger guys,

1628
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: more intent.

1629
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 3: So it's like you hope, well, you hope it all

1630
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: works out, but you never know.

1631
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: All Right, It's been fun though, and it's still going on.

1632
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: Like again, i'd set off the top like Draft day

1633
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: just warms my heart because it's a lifetime of work,

1634
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: a dream coming true in a single moment.

1635
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's so beautiful.

1636
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna take one more break here, but

1637
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: when we come back, never give up on something that

1638
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: is yours. Listening to Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back to

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday.

1640
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 3: Welcome back to.

1641
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday and Alex carry Heer with Carmen Vitali.

1642
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tire dot Com Studios

1643
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. We've had such a like an eclectic

1644
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: group of music today. Dude, Christmas killing it last week too.

1645
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: I swear it's been he's been on it.

1646
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: Can we get like, what's the inspo?

1647
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Bin?

1648
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: What's the vibe?

1649
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 6: Like?

1650
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: Just what we're feeling each commercial break?

1651
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 7: No, I it's just whatever the vibe is.

1652
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1653
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 4: I'm right now.

1654
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, what we've gone alternative, We've gone like all

1655
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: over the place.

1656
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: But I love it.

1657
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: Literally went top thumping.

1658
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1659
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: It puts a smile on our face and anyone else

1660
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: is gonna put a smile on your face.

1661
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: Our feel good story. Great transition of the week, I know,

1662
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 3: transition queen over here.

1663
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Reggie Bush finally got his Heisman trophy back after

1664
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: fourteen years of forfeiting it, and you guys, it's about

1665
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: damn time, Like this is.

1666
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: It's about damn time. That's what you should have played,

1667
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 4: Chris Ah.

1668
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 3: It's just let it be a life lesson to people.

1669
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: Never stop fighting for what is yours and stop believing

1670
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: in yourself. Because he got punished for something that is

1671
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: now part of the nil college football landscape, and it's

1672
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: hard to punish someone for something that is now being

1673
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: celebrated and taught there's classes, students are making millions of dollars.

1674
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, off of all of this.

1675
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 5: Real ones, real ones always knew Reggie Bush as a

1676
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 5: Heisman winner and knew that trophy hadn't gone anywhere. I

1677
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 5: really appreciate though that Johnny Manziel was like, you know what, No,

1678
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,839
Speaker 5: enough is enough. I am not coming to the Heisman

1679
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 5: ceremony anymore until you get Reggie back his Heisman.

1680
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: See, that's the coolest thing is it's a brotherhood.

1681
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: Well now he gets to be part of all the

1682
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: Heisman celebration stuff moving forward because it's an elite club

1683
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: and he deserves to be there. He was the best

1684
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: of the best during his time and too, I can't

1685
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: even imagine what that feels like to have something ripped

1686
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: away from you and to live in that like but

1687
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: that like it's almost like your identity getting taken away

1688
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 2: from you for something that's.

1689
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 4: Part of it.

1690
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 5: Heisman winner is something that precludes your name whenever you.

1691
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: Are brought up.

1692
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: It's how you are introduced. Yes, it's like when you

1693
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: it's if you win an Emmy, if you're all.

1694
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 5: The super Bowl, when you have a gold jacket, if

1695
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: any of that, like that is that is right up there.

1696
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 5: You will forever be known. They always say they can

1697
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 5: never take that away from you once you get it,

1698
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 5: except they did take it away from Reggie Bush, and

1699
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 5: I hated that for him, but real ones never never

1700
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 5: lost faith. I'm just glad that he finally has it back,

1701
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 5: and I right he can he can participate in all.

1702
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 3: Did you see the Nissan commercials? There is that what

1703
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: it is?

1704
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: Oh, the Heisman House is the thing on the on

1705
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 4: Nissan commercials because Nissan sponsors either the award itself or

1706
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 4: they're just a College of Alell sponsor.

1707
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 5: So all of the guys are like in the house.

1708
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 5: Like you've got like Tim Tebow driving.

1709
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: The car that comes up like with some like cook

1710
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: and something.

1711
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 5: So yes, that's like you Now, Reggie Bush is in

1712
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 5: the Heisman House.

1713
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 8: You know.

1714
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm just so like what Reggie says.

1715
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: Personally, I'm thrilled to reunite with my fellow Heisman winners

1716
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: and be a part of the storied legacy of the

1717
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. I'm honored to return to the Heisman family.

1718
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: Because that's what it is.

1719
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: It's really like getting to be back with your family,

1720
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: your brother, and I love it there was did you

1721
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: see did I just say this?

1722
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: Did you see like the.

1723
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: Billboards around town that were like give Reggie as Heisman back,

1724
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: like they were like full pr push, which was amazing.

1725
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: But Carvin, we have one more.

1726
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: We have two feel.

1727
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: Good stories of the week here and our second one.

1728
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: It's all good vibes here. We're all ending on great vibes.

1729
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: That's what we do here. Caitlin Clark reportedly signing a

1730
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollar deal with Nike, which includes her

1731
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: signature shoe.

1732
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 3: Like again, but let's give a round.

1733
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: Of applause here, because there's a lot of shock when

1734
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: people realize how much she was going to be getting

1735
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: paid in the w NBA, Like it is shocking when

1736
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: you when you find out I found out a couple

1737
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: of years ago, like what we're actually making and I'm like,

1738
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: that's over how many years?

1739
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: What that's like not even.

1740
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: Like an NBA draft D's like signing bonus, especially for someone.

1741
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 4: Right league minimum in the NBA.

1742
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, Like this is someone who her jerseys for

1743
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: the Fever sold out in every single size on draft night.

1744
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 4: So Tayler Williams then broke that record.

1745
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 3: Taylor Williams just broke. That's Chicago fans for you.

1746
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: Sure is.

1747
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: They are ready for this new next generation everything happening.

1748
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: But these shoes are gonna fly off.

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Speaker 5: To Oh I'll be I'm gonna try to get get

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Speaker 5: a pair, but like I don't know that I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: be able to. It's gonna be like, you know, one

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Speaker 5: of those I need a plug, I need, I need

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 5: a sneakers plug first of all. I need a sneakers

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Speaker 5: plug anyway, because that's how you get any of these shoes.

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Speaker 5: But they're gonna fly. They're gonna be one of those

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Speaker 5: ones that are like sold out within minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want to get your T shirt plug

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Speaker 3: my teacher. Oh yeah, Homage you have it? Oh gup, hey, Homage,

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Speaker 3: got my girl up.

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Speaker 2: Alex Curry, Yeah, there be some cool stuff to wear

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Speaker 2: on our show, because that would be really cool.

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Speaker 4: They're wonderful to me.

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Speaker 5: I've just taken to wearing all my homage and home

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Speaker 5: field for that matter, homefield is college, homage is pros.

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Speaker 5: I've taken to wearing all these shirts on our radio show.

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Speaker 4: So there's already but.

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Speaker 3: There's already been like the Kaitlin Clark effect.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it just with most of her games are

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Speaker 2: now going to be nationally broadcast, which has and.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully this whole Kaitlyn Clark effect extends to the commissioner

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Speaker 5: of the w NBA talked about wanting to renegotiate the

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 5: media rights deal and now looking for double what they

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Speaker 5: were getting before, which will have the trickle down effect

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Speaker 5: of paying these players more, of giving it the giving

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Speaker 5: the w NBA to do it deserves and these athletes

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Speaker 5: that do they deserve. Not that it's going to necessarily

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Speaker 5: catch up to the NBA super quickly, no, but the

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 5: product has been great and hopefully yeah, like Kaitlin Clark,

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Speaker 5: the CLA. The biggest thing about the Kaitlin Clark effect

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Speaker 5: is that it hopefully means prog for the sport.

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Speaker 4: As a whole. Yeah, that is that is like this,

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Speaker 4: those are the stakes here.

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Speaker 2: Not even just the sport as a whole, but for

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Speaker 2: women's sports in general, because what it comes down to

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Speaker 2: is brands believing in the product and putting up the

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Speaker 2: money the same way that they're putting up money for

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Speaker 2: the men the men's yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And that is going to again have the domino.

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Speaker 5: Effect of like, all right, well, if these brands are

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Speaker 5: paying all this money, yeah, and then the like it'll

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 5: go both ways because if the league is more visible

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 5: and more eyes are on these players and there are

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01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 5: more nationally televised games, guess what brands are going to

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01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 5: pay more for that because that's more exposure for them.

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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 5: And it's a symbiotic relationship that can work very very well.

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Speaker 5: And Caitlyn Clark is the catalyst for a lot of this.

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Speaker 5: Not to say that she's the first person deserving of being.

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Speaker 3: Knowl she is the most.

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Speaker 2: She is the first polarizing figure woman basketball player that

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Speaker 2: is shifting the culture. She's getting people who didn't watch

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Speaker 2: I would say, maybe didn't even watch basketball, tune in

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Speaker 2: to watch her play.

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Speaker 4: And you again, like I want to go.

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Speaker 5: There are plenty of exceptional women's players that played there

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Speaker 5: for her, and it's just now kind of catching fire.

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Speaker 5: And I'm really really glad that there's such a good

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Speaker 5: steward of the game in Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 2: You know what I've noticed too, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: playoff NBA sponsored commercials now have the WNBA and the.

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Speaker 5: NBA logo'm because they're getting on the WNBA film.

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Speaker 3: This feels like there's movement, all right.

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Speaker 2: Guys, thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 2: with Carmea and me. I hope you have a great

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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday and we'll see you all next week