1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Growing pile of allegations against him, from allegations of sexual 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: misconduct and alcohol abuse, as well as alleged financial mismanagement, 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: to say nothing of heg SA's extremist views about things 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: like the medieval crusades and what The New York Times 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: describes as hegsas quote praise for the brutal religious military 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: campaigns of the past, which, according to The Times, HeiG 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: sesses as quote a model for today. So it was notable, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: and after days of remaining conspicuously silent on the fate 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: of hegsas nomination, today Donald Trump weighed in on how 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: quote Pete Hegseth is doing very well and how quote 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Pete is a winner in all caps, but what Donald 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Trump is doing outside of posting on social media is 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: a very different story. Washian Post reports this quote. Hegseth 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: has been told not to expect Donald Trump to apply 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: pressure to Republican senators to get him over the finish 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: line for confirmation next month. That is, according to two 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: people familiar with the discussions who spoke anonymously, meaning Donald 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Trump appears to be unwilling to spend any of his 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: own political capital to save hegset preferring what looks like 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: a hunger games may the odds be ever in your 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: favor approach a sink or swim gambit that could prove 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: politically risky, given that after four straight days of a 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: want to be charm offensive on Capitol Hill, heg Seth 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: still doesn't have the votes to be confirmed. The Hill 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: crunch those numbers, Hegseths can only afford three Republican defections. 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: But quote, a Senate Republican aid told The Hill that 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: as many as eight Republican centers are prepared to vote 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: against Hegseth, most of them not willing to call publicly 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: for Hegsets are resigned because they don't want to be 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: criticized by Trump's MAGA allies. One Republican senator put it 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: a little more bluntly, telling The Hill this quote, I 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: think most people do not expect Hegsets to make it. 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: There's seven or eight Republican votes against him. It's a 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: matter of time. Heg sas nomination is on death watch. 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: End quote, and the hurdles heg Seth still has to 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: clear are formidable. Arguably, one of the most influential Senate 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Republicans in terms of heg sess nomination. Senator Jonie Ernst, 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: who yesterday told Fox that she is not yet a yes, 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: has no plans to meet with Hegseth again today. Next week, 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Hegseeth is expected to sit down with Republican Senator Susan Collins, 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: who has stated that the charges of impropriety against Hegseeth 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: are exactly why cabinet picks ought to be subjected to 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: FBI background checks. In other words, anything could happen. 44 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: Buckle up. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 45 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: There's not got a free shot. All these network's lying 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: about the people. The people have had a belly full 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: I know you've tried to do everything in the world. 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: To stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 51 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: It's going to happen. 52 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: And where do people like that go to share the 53 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: big line? Mega media? 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: task and what is my purpose. If that answer is 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: to save my country, this country will be saved. War 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: room use your host, Stephen k. 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 5: Ban. 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: It's Friday, sixth December, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: You're in the war room. Thank you for tuning into 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: our late afternoon early evening show. We're going to get 63 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: into it. Pete Hegseth, what is Nicole Wallaceay? 64 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: Buckle up and get ready. We'll look. 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: We know the tide is turning. The inside baseball is 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the tide is turning for Pete Hexath. 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: People know that. 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: One of the reason is Pete's a very charismatic individual. 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: President Trump has seen the you know, President, I'm not 70 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: going to work the phones. 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: He doesn't have to work the phones. Pete Hexath has 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: a responsibility go up there. 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: And make his case to these folks in the Senate. 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: He's making this case. 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: He's charismatic, he's got good ideas. People are supporting him, 76 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: and I think. 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: This is going to come down. 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: I think when Joni Earn says, hey, I support Pete Hexath, 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: and Pete Hexa is gonna fine. We're gonna get this 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: thing done. And I think the key thing for right 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: now for Senator Ernest is we got to find an 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: off ramp for her. Right she's a little bit out 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: there in a limb. She didn't want to be primaried 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: in UH. You know in this she's in cycle. You 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: know you don't want to You don't want to have 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Maga all over you in Iowa. 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: No need to do that. 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: Very unnecessary, particularly for a guy like Pete Hexath, who 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: can be a UH and will be a great Secretary 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: of Defense U, especially in the time we're in the 91 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: early years of the kinetic part of the Third World War. 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in somebody knows him very well 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: from the Article three project, Mike Davis. We've got Mark Lucas, 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: who's one of Mike's partners over there. 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: Mark. 96 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: You've got a long history with Pete. 97 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: Can you walk us through. 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 6: It, sir, Yes, thank you, Steve. I've known Pete Hegseth 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: for over ten years and we served together in the 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 6: thirty fourth Infantry Division. He was in the Minnesota National Guard. 101 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 6: I was in the Iowa National Guard is the famous 102 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 6: Red Bull Division. AR motto is attack, Attack, Attack, and 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: I've also served with Pete with Concerned Veterans for America. 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 6: Pete was my predecessor, and I was able to see 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: what Pete was able to accomplish with CVA, I inherited 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 6: his executive team, his strategy, and Pete Hegseth, along with 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 6: President Donald Trump and myself were able to usher in 108 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: some of the most historic victories in the history of 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 6: the v We were able to pass the VA Accountability 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 6: in Whistleblower Protection Act and also the Mission Act. And 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 6: Pete understood the VA inside and out. He's got incredible pedigree. 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: He went to Harvard, he went to Princeton and Steve, 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 6: You're absolutely right. Pete is so charismatic. He connects with 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: people all across the country. I brought him to my 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: home state of Iowa. We live broadcasted my Iowa caucus 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: in Iowa City, and you should have seen the love 117 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: that people had for Pete. Normal caucus goers absolutely love him. 118 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 6: He can communicate to the grassroots, but he can also 119 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 6: hold his own in serious, in depth policy conversations. And 120 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 6: that's the one thing that Pete was so helpful for 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 6: me too, was that when it came to reforming the 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 6: bureaucracy the VA, we're looking forward towards the DoD and 123 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 6: understanding the threats inside the building, but also the threats oconus. 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: Pete understands all of that so I think that Pete 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 6: Hegseth is going to be one of the stars in 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: the cabinet for President Trump, and I believe that he 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 6: will sail through with the confirmation. 128 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I want to go. 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Back by the way, you know, when you get when 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: you're accepted as an undergraduate at Princeton, I would argue 131 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: even more than Harvard and Yale, my beloved Harvard and Yale, 132 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: that it is and I was in the graduate school. 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: There are the trade schools I'm talking about at the 134 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: college level. Princeton I think is that Stanford level is 135 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: the hardest to get into. 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the most selective. 137 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: So if you're you're at Princeton, you're you're you're bringing 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: some heat intellectually. But I want to go back to 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: the thirty fourth Infantry Division. Yesterday we had a tweet 140 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: that that Pete put up in Denver, if he'd be 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: so kind, had the battlefield cross on it, and Pete 142 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: had tweeted it out about his experiences. Talk to me 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: about the formative the formative years of Pete Hegseath in 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: yourself as as combat vets. 145 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: Walk me through that. 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: What were the lessons he learned and why is that important. 147 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: We keep pushing the fact that we've had enough. 148 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: Older guys, we had enough. You know what we need now. 149 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: Clearly there's an issue with field grade officers, some of 150 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: these generals and admirals of being woke. What were the 151 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: lessons you guys took from the battlefield and why are 152 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: they important for application in the Pentagon today? 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: Sir well p is a war fighter. First, he's a 154 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: true pipe hitter. We're both infantry platoon leaders. He served 155 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: in Iraq and Afghanistan. I was an infantry platoon leader 156 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 6: along the Afghan Pakistani border in twenty ten. In twenty eleven, 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 6: it was the deadliest period of the war. We had 158 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 6: more kas at that point than at any other point 159 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: in the war. So Pe understands what it means to 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 6: take fire. Washington, DC is not going to scare him. 161 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 6: He was a door kicker. He saw real combat, and 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 6: that's part of the reason why these guys in the 163 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 6: Pentagon are nervous. He never became a colonel or a 164 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,239 Speaker 6: general officer. He never worked within the military industrial complex. 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 6: He comes from a junior officer mentality, which means he 166 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 6: cares about his soldiers. 167 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 7: I introduced him to some. 168 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 6: Young enlisted soldiers here in Iowa, and he could cut 169 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 6: it up with them like he was one of the guys. 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 7: And yet he could go to the Pentagon. 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what, Steve, I don't care what 172 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 6: ranked these guys are. I don't care how long they 173 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 6: spend Washington. They will not be able to keep up 174 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 6: with Pete Hegseth. So with his formidable years experiencing IEDs 175 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: and calling in close air support, he understands what it 176 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: takes to win, and he is not going to give up. 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 7: He's going to fight. 178 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: And I was so happy to see him this week 179 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 6: start talking with the media, engaging them, because the best 180 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 6: defender of Pete Hegseth and the best defender of the 181 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: new direction that we need to go at the Pentagon 182 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: as Pete Hegseth. 183 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: Let me talk about that direction for a second. 184 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: Besides the budgets and material, I mean, you guys are 185 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: over there were fighting these two wars. They take twenty 186 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: years combined if you leave the contractors, and the contractors 187 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: are all just former enlisted in junior officers. But you've 188 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: got almost ten thousand, I think Kias you've got another 189 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: fifty thousand. 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,239 Speaker 3: You know, wounded casualties. 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: I've heard I think the numbers another fifteen thousand contractors 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: who were all former military guys. And you look back 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: in those years, do you think what you guys went 194 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: through would inform his decisions of when we actually commit 195 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: combat troops to a situation? 196 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: Sir, absolutely, you know. I joined the military after nine 197 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: to eleven. I remember that morning very vividly. It left 198 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 6: a lasting impression on my life, and I wanted to 199 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: go over there and get some to be quite honest, 200 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 6: I wanted to take the fight to these radicals who 201 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 6: are willing to kill Americans, innocent Americans, and that's why 202 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 6: Pete and I joined. But I didn't get to Afghanistan 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: until twenty ten, nine years after the initial attack. And 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 6: what I learned when of my boots hit the ground 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 6: was we had no strategy to win. My men and 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 6: I we did not lose a single fight. I told 207 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: my men that we were going to be the dominant predator. 208 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 6: We were going to be the most ruthless people the 209 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 6: enemy's ever seen. But we were also going to be 210 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 6: the most compassionate to local populace. And so we were 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 6: surging forces under General Portraeus nine years after the initial invasion, 212 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 6: year after year, their new strategy after new strategy. And 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 6: I was young, I was in my twenties, but I 214 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 6: quickly realized that this wasn't about winning. 215 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 7: There was no plan to win. It was all about. 216 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 6: Having a recurring revenue stream for the big military industrial complex. 217 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 6: That's what it was all about. So Pete understands that. 218 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: And because we had to endure this combat, because we 219 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: know what the true cost of combat entails, we will 220 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 6: be will ensure that when we dedicate forces overseas that 221 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: is the right thing to do. Because we learned from 222 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: Iraq and from Afghanistan. We were duped once. We're not 223 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 6: going to be duped again. This is so important. I 224 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: think this is what the thing itself is. I want 225 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 6: to go back over this. 226 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: Because you're concerned, Pizza conservative, you're a Republican, you're a patriot. 227 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to volunteer. I'm going to sign up. I'm 228 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: gonna go and. 229 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: You get there in twenty ten, you wake up call. 230 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: In seventeen, President Trump tasked me originally to be to 231 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: let's get everything on the table about how do we 232 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: wind down Afghanistan. 233 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: This is seven years later. 234 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Seven years later, and the Pentagon and the apparatus, the intelligence. 235 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: They just want to tap you along, they want to 236 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: completely tap you along. We didn't get out until Biden's 237 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: watched in the NF fiasco in twenty years. This is 238 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: why Pete hexath in the angle of attack that Pete 239 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: Hexas has and how it's his formation as a combat 240 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: leader will be so important when you're sitting there and 241 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: having to make those decisions. Not in the Pentagon, I'm 242 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: talking about over the National Security Council and the Kennedy 243 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: you know, the Kennedy conference room, your thoughts, thoughts, Mark, No. 244 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, you know. 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 6: I also volunteered to go to South Korea at the 246 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 6: height of the crisis with Kim Jong un, and what 247 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 6: I saw during that experience was how much of a 248 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: disruptor President Donald Trump was in foreign policy, and Pete 249 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 6: heggs At shares that mentality. I thought we were destined 250 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 6: for war. I remember going over there. I worked in 251 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: a bunker every day, I was looking at high resolution 252 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 6: imagery of North Korean soldiers. It was getting very serious. 253 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 6: But Donald Trump completely challenged the status quo, and he said, well, 254 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 6: why don't I talk to Kim Jong Nuin. I think 255 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 6: it's good to talk to people with nuclear weapons, and 256 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 6: I saw President Trump's leadership completely change the dynamics on 257 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: the peninsula, and the American people don't understand it would 258 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: have been one of the most mass casualty events in 259 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 6: the history of the world. I don't think people would 260 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 6: be prepared for that. Pete Hegseth shares that same mentality. 261 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 6: He's not going to go along with all these policy 262 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: think tank policy wongs who say, oh, we have to 263 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 6: do this or we have to do that, because. 264 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 7: We've been doing it for generation after generation. He's going 265 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 7: to challenge things. 266 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 6: He's gonna be fully aligned with President Trump, and that's 267 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 6: gonna be refreshing. 268 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: Mark, hang on for one second. We'll hold you through 269 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: the break. 270 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: Natalie Winner is going to join us. You're gonna be 271 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: writing a shotgun. We've got a lot to talk about. 272 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: Some of our favorite folks over the White House trying 273 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: to get themselves some blanket preemptive pardons. Whatever in the 274 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: hell that is some of the folks in back of 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: these color revolutions. Short commercial breaker return. We got Mark 276 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: Lewis from article three talking about his buddy Pete Hegseth short. 277 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 8: Breaknate Mind, we see. 278 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: Pew's your host, Stephen k Man. 279 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 280 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Mark Lucas from article three joins us to this morning. 281 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: If you caught the Morning show, we started this morning 282 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: with the eclip from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece nineteen fifty seven, 283 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: Paths of Glory and the famous scene where Kirk Douglas 284 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: is about to lead his troops. It's a French army 285 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: about to lead their troops over the top into no 286 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: man's land. As we told you, it was fixed van 287 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: NEETs on defense of Pete Hegsath and Cash Pateel and 288 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: Tulci Gabbert and Bobby Kennedy, because if you don't, if 289 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: we don't have the backs of these folks, they're going 290 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: to pick them off one a time Lynsky like. And 291 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: Pete was looking a little grim yesterday, and I think 292 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: President Trump was seeing what Pete could do, the resilience 293 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: of Pete. What President Trump likes is resilience, the ability 294 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: to take a punch and to respond to a punch, 295 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: pick yourself up off the mat and punch back. And 296 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: you're seeing that from Pete Heexas, and I think we've 297 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: turned this thing around one of the reasons we've done 298 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: that or how we've done it is, Mark, tell us 299 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: about the I want the Article three Action Center. 300 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: What do you guys have over there? 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: Because it's we're looking for as many touch points as possible. 302 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: We got Bill Blaster, you guys had the Action Center. 303 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: We want people engage as possible. The war Room Posse 304 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: throws a big punch. People know that got a lot 305 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: of media attention today on our open and quite frankly, 306 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: this blocker. 307 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: Shows at Real America's Voice in the morning. 308 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: The two hours of war Room, two hours of Charlie Kirk, 309 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: one hour Jack Basoba, kind of five hours with a break, 310 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: and then back to another two hours of the war Room. 311 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: That has Pete's back into making a priority because Jack 312 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: and I are former military knowing how important this Secretary 313 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: of Defense is. So tell me about the action center. 314 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: What can people do now to help Pete out? 315 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: In the audience? 316 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Steve, if you remember Cash Patel was supposed to 317 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: be dead on arrival, but you quickly went the defense, 318 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 6: so had Mike Davis. The Article three Project launched our 319 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: action alert to encourage the US Senate to confirm Cash 320 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: patl and we had over twenty thousand messages lobbed in 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: to US centers all across the country. And because of 322 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 6: you doing your shaping operation, Steve on war Room, because 323 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: of the grassroots efforts from Bill Blaster and also from 324 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: the A three P Action Center, Cash went from being 325 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 6: doa to he's need a speedy confirmation. And even Jonie Ernst, 326 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 6: my home state senator who's experienced some speed bumps with 327 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 6: Pete Hegseth, she came out strongly in support of Cash 328 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 6: Patel and with Pete Hegseth. We just launched our action 329 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 6: alert yesterday, just a little less than twenty four hours ago. 330 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 6: We've been able to recruit close to three thousand activists 331 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 6: who have taken close to six thousand actions. So if 332 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 6: you go to A three P action or the article 333 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 6: number three project dot org, you can click on our 334 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 6: action center and you can contact both of your US sanders. 335 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: You can email them, you can tweet at them, you 336 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 6: can even call them. You can conduct all those actions 337 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 6: in less than two minutes. So go to A three 338 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 6: P action dot com and I think Jony Ernst is 339 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: going to become a yes on Pete Hegseth. We's got 340 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 6: to let her know that the grassroots support Pete hegseeth, 341 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: they support President Trump, and I believe she'll come along 342 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 6: just like she did with Cash Betel. 343 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: And look I. 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: Agree with like women in combat. I mean, Moe went 345 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: to West Point, served in Iraq. I disagree with Pete 346 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: on some stuff a lot of you know, you're not 347 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: going to agree on everything. You know, Pete's an open, 348 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: open minded guy, and Senator Ernst is a combat vet. 349 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 3: You know, she's a colonel attendant Colonel. 350 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: I want to go back because another hit on Pete 351 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: is that he's on the curveycount on weekends and he's 352 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: never run anything more than an organization with five people. 353 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: So and the Pentagon is the most complex industrial entity 354 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: institution in the world. So you know this guy for 355 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: a long time, and you particularly know him in a 356 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: professional How. 357 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: Is he going to scale up? 358 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the leadership style here that people going 359 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: to feel comfortable that Pete Heggs's can come from a 360 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: Saturday morning you know, talk show hosts where they're cooking 361 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: pancakes and having run a small veterans organization to actually 362 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: enforce his will into what they call the building, sir. 363 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's this misnomer that concerned Veterans for America 364 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 6: was just a complete train wreck. 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 7: When Pete Heggs Seth left. 366 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 6: Well, I became the CVA executive director after Pete left, 367 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: and I retained his top staff. He had three people 368 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: in particular that are just incredible, some of the brightest 369 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 6: policy minds, and also he had a grassroots army. And 370 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 6: so before I joined CVA, I worked for a group 371 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 6: called Americans for Prosperity, and we're very well known in 372 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 6: state capitals for being effective in passing tax cuts, reducing 373 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: spending and regulation. But we really struggled in DC and 374 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: we had conversations do we just kind of take a 375 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 6: step back and focus on state capitals. Well, when I 376 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 6: went to CVA, it was completely a different story. Pete 377 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 6: had cva's grassroots army ready to deploy once President Trump 378 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 6: got elected. He had a shaping operation that was unbelievable 379 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: on Capitol Hill with the VA House Committee and the 380 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 6: Senate Committee. And so when I came into CVA, I 381 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 6: saw an incredible leadership team. I had an incredible plan 382 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 6: I took from Pete Hegseth, and we were able to 383 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 6: pass two of the largest reforms in the history of 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 6: the VA because of Pete Hegseth and those grassroots volunteers 385 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 6: all across the country. It's not easy to wrangle those guys, 386 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 6: and so Pete has the leadership experience. 387 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 7: But he also has the vision. 388 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 6: So I was able to brief President Trump on cva's plan, 389 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 6: which was Pete Hegsath's plan, and I was able to 390 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: tell President Trump that the CVA plan will help him 391 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 6: achieve all of his objectives, the ten objectives he had 392 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: on the campaign trail when he campaigned for president on 393 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 6: helping our vets. 394 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 7: And we were able to implement that in two quick years. 395 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 6: And I see that Pete Hegseth understands the vision, but 396 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 6: he also knows how to put together a team. And 397 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 6: I know that because I inherited this team and it 398 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: was world class. 399 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know over at MSNBC, which we break down 400 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: every night with CNN, you know, brother Chris Hayes, Lawrence 401 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: O'donald Joyane read the whole crowd over there. I thought 402 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: CVA was a complete train wreck. 403 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: I thought it was destroyed. 404 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: I thought he ran everybody off, either he made passes 405 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: that the women or got drunk in front of the 406 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: guys and everybody's repulse. So there was nothing, are you 407 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: you're breaking some news here. You're actually saying that you 408 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: relieve the watch in a real organization, and we're actually 409 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: able to take that organization. Go brief President Trump, and 410 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: that was one of the foundational elements of the big 411 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: VA changes President Trump made his. 412 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: First term absolutely and I remember when I briefed President 413 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 6: Trump on the VA plan. It was the VA Accountability 414 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 6: and Whistleblower Protection Act, and I was really pushing the 415 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: President and his staff in the room that they need 416 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 6: to put that bill on Mitch McConnell's desk in the 417 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 6: first hundred days. And I was able to also leverage 418 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 6: Pete Hegseth because I told President Trump that he was 419 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 6: my predecessor, and President Trump's eyes lit up. 420 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 7: He said, you know, Pete, I love Pete. 421 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 6: I wanted to hire him, but he said that my 422 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 6: staff is telling me he's better for me on Fox, 423 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 6: which was kind of true because Pete was able to 424 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 6: come down from time to time, part time on his 425 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: own time to help us with some serious policy conversations 426 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 6: along with other veteran service organizations. And so Pete Hegseth 427 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 6: is really responsible along with President Trump for some of 428 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 6: those big reforms that delivered those key victories Steve that 429 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: you remember early on in his first term, when you know, 430 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: Paul Ryan and those guys in Congress are trying to 431 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 6: figure out who's President Trump, and we couldn't get tax 432 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: reform done quicker enough because Congress in the way. Pete 433 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: Hegseth and his vision for the VA was the biggest 434 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 6: and earliest policy victory for President Trump in twenty seventeen. 435 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: No, this was the twenty seventeen then the tax cut 436 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: because Paul Rnning the guys did a face plant on 437 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: the Obamacare Mark, where. 438 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: Can people get you? 439 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: I think you're going to be doing a lot of 440 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: media here because here's the thing is shocking, and we 441 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: getting Natalie here in a second. If you watch the 442 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: mainstream media, literally they say Pete haiks hath destroyed both 443 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: veterans groups. And here we got Mark Mark Lucas who said, 444 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: now he didn't destroy it, turn it over great. I 445 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: was able to go to President Trump and this was 446 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: one of the big This is one of the foundational 447 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: elements from President Trump's wins in twenty seventeen. It just 448 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: shows you the complete lies and how they spend things. 449 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: So I want to make sure the sport gets out 450 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: that Hexas is the real deal. 451 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 6: And Steve also, I'm putting my name in my face 452 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 6: on all of this. I'm not doing anonymous sources. I 453 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 6: volunteered the this morning to testify in front of the 454 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 6: Senate Armed Service Committee to be a character witness for 455 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: peace nomination. My good friend Mike Davis, who I've known 456 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: since college, who is the expert on confirmations. 457 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 7: Article three project. 458 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 6: Is all in on Pete Haig Seth and you can 459 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 6: go to Article three project dot org. I'm not quite 460 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 6: as hot on Twitter or ex or getter as my 461 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 6: friend Mike Davis. I'm not nearly as angry or as irish, 462 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 6: but you can follow me at Lucas Iowa on all 463 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 6: those Shannons. 464 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Hangovers ide with Lucas When when when Davis first came on, 465 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: he was the nice, calm guy like you. 466 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: Now he's the Viceroy, he's a he's a whole thing. 467 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: So we'll go to watch the arc. 468 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: Of you over at over at Article three. You guys 469 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: do amazing work. And I think this center that's Mike 470 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: is known as the pros pro for these confirmations. So 471 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: it's so, it's so I think powerful and necessary for 472 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: President Trump to have outside groups like yourself that really 473 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: know the ins and outs of this. 474 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: So really, thank you. 475 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Do you have once again, do you have personal Twitter? 476 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: Can we get that up? 477 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: What is it? 478 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 7: Yes, it's at Lucas, Iowa. 479 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: And be sure to also go to the Article three 480 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: project's website to take action to let Joni Erst and 481 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 6: every US editor know that we need to support Pete Hagsath. 482 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 6: So thank you so much Steve for having me on. 483 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, appreciate you. I'll tell you what I'm 484 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: gonna do. Whatever, I'm gonna hold Natalie. I want to 485 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: play her cold open and I'll bring her in there. 486 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in Natalie Winter is going to join 487 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: us for the next block. We got a lot to 488 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: talk about some of the folks that Natalie focuses on 489 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: on Color Revolution and some of her investigator reporting, you know, 490 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: where they're spending their time. They're spending their time over 491 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: the White House burning the Midnight Oil because Cash Betel, 492 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Natalie Winners, Mike Benz, Darren Beattie had been picking on them, 493 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: had been picking on Fauci and you know, picking on 494 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: these people Hot and Julie Kelly been been picking on 495 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: these people, Jack Smith. 496 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: They're over there looking. 497 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: For They're working on a new concept, a new contract. 498 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Take your number two pencil out. We have some nomenclature, 499 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: A blanket preemptive pardon, A blanket preemptive pardon for any 500 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: known or unknown crime now or anywhere, at any time 501 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: in eternity or back to the beginning of time, or 502 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: even beforehand, in any part of the universe. 503 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: How about that? Natalie when is going to join us. 504 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: At a short commercial break Birch Gold dot com slash 505 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: bannon get the end of the dollar Empire. Also get 506 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: direct access to Philip Patrick and the team. We're going 507 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: to go through a little turbulence France. The government fell 508 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: because trying to, you know, cut these budgets and they're 509 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: trying to put the burden on working people. The Front 510 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: National or a National Assembly I think they call themselves 511 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: now said no, I'm not going to do that. 512 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: So government fell. 513 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: Find it about gold is a hedge Birch Gold dot 514 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: com slash bannon short commercial break. 515 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: Natalie Winters joins us. Next in the war room, terror 516 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: an each sip at an each sun. 517 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 9: Having handled tax and weapons cases over my many years 518 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 9: as the defense lawyer, nobody else not named Biden would 519 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 9: have been prosecuted for these tax peccadillos. Certainly the no 520 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 9: jail plea which was agreed with the government would have 521 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 9: been proper. Hunter Biden is at risk of being persecuted 522 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 9: by a coming Trump administration. The former president and incoming 523 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 9: future president, as Sadie, would target the Bidens. So the 524 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 9: larger logic of justice says the apartments proper, whereas when 525 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 9: you look at other worthy people who are targets of 526 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 9: likely persecution, like mister Cohen, they'd serve their sentences. So 527 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 9: I think this was a start, but I hope the 528 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 9: White House will proceed. President Biden will proceed to in 529 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 9: the name of justice, pardon others as. 530 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 10: Well, doctor Bonham's case in England. And it's still true today. 531 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 10: And there's another limitation on the president's pardon power. Nobody 532 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 10: thinks the president could take bribes to issue pardons. So 533 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 10: if the president were to act corruptly, for example, if 534 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 10: you were to pardon Michael Flynn or Paul Maniford or 535 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 10: Donald Trump Junior in order that the president himself avoided 536 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 10: being implicated by those individuals if they testified at their trials, 537 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 10: that would be a corrupt pardon. 538 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: Depends on the breadth of the wording. 539 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: And that's why folks like me will sit and Wordsmith's 540 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 5: some of these things if President Biden decides to do them, 541 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 5: because they want to insulate these preemptive pardons from challenge. 542 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: But Jose, a preemptive pardon is not without its own dangers. Remember, 543 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: if you pardon someone, you're removing their criminal exposure in 544 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: the past, I mean for their past actions, and that 545 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: means they can't invoke the Fifth Amendment, for example, with 546 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 5: respect to that conduct. 547 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: If they're called upon to. 548 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 5: Testify and other criminal proceedings are even before Congress, that 549 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: would mean if Joe Biden were to preemptively pardon, for example, 550 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: Jack Smith and others on his team, he would also 551 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 5: be subjecting them to lengthy congressional hearings, potentially at which 552 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: they could not say, I invoke the Fifth Amendment. They 553 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: may have other privileges, including the attorney client privilege that 554 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: applies to their work for the Justice Department, but it 555 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: could expose other people to having to talk add nauseam 556 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: about what they have done and of course subject themselves 557 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: to future charges for perjury if they're found not to 558 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: be telling the truth. 559 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Natalie Winners, Oh my god, thank you guys. 560 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: Great cuts. 561 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: Let's say the first one, one of your nemesis, norm Isisen. 562 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: Explain the audience who he is and why is he 563 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: becoming such a big deal. 564 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: He wrote a huge op ed in Newsweek magazine. 565 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: He's becoming a major player in the I want people 566 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: to get the number two parncils out, blanket preemptive pardons. 567 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: This is what the Biden regime is spending their time 568 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: on in the in the closing days. 569 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: Of the regime, Normalizen? 570 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: Who is he? Why is he important? And why is 571 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: he become such a player in this process? 572 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: Ma'am? 573 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 8: Well, Normalizen is a complete and utter hack, and I 574 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 8: think you see it on full display right there. But 575 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 8: I think you have to contextualize this moment, particularly of 576 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 8: the sort of democracy protectorate class which Normalizen is one 577 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 8: of the leading voices of. You know, the same people 578 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 8: who sit up there and say that, well, we can't 579 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 8: have Pete Hegseth because he tarnished the reputation of an 580 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 8: organization that advocated for veterans I'm sorry, what has Normizen 581 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 8: or frankly any senator done in the past to actually 582 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 8: help American veterans, You know, absolutely nothing, right, It's selective 583 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 8: outrage and it's performative. I wish these senators would audit 584 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 8: the what is it trillion dollar black hole that the 585 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 8: Pentagon has with the same level of intensity and scrutiny 586 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 8: that they're going after pete Hegseth's character. But I think 587 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 8: that you can sort of extrapolate out that critique and 588 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 8: just frankly, the double standard bs performatism, performative activism coming 589 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 8: from these people all the way to like I said, 590 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 8: the sort of democracy sect of people of which Normizen 591 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 8: has been one of the leading voices, the people who 592 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 8: pushed for months, for years saying that, you know, Donald 593 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 8: Trump is the largest existential threat to American democracy. He's 594 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 8: Hitler two point zero. If anything, He's probably worse. Remember 595 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 8: this is the same Norm Eisen who quite literally wrote 596 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 8: the Color Revolution textbook playbook for the Brookings Institution, talking 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 8: about how in countries abroad, like Hungary particularly, it's interesting 598 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 8: it's the countries that they always like to invoke in 599 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 8: the mainstream media of the sort of think tank Washington, 600 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 8: DC groups to draw parallels to President Trump here domestically, 601 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 8: because they're trying to bridge that gap so they can 602 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 8: lay the pretext to roll out similar color rebelution. 603 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: Tactics here at home. And why Normalizen is so. 604 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 8: Important, right, He's the chosen lackey to hit the airwaves 605 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 8: on CNN to defend these blanket preemptive pardons. We're not 606 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: even talking about just run of the mill partons. We're 607 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 8: talking about the fantastical creation of an entirely new form 608 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 8: of pardon derived for what the most innocent people who 609 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 8: I only ever hear them say, you know how they 610 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 8: never committed any crimes, yet they have to create an 611 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 8: entirely new form. 612 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: I mean it is next level gas lighting. The carbon 613 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: footprint of it, it would make the environmentalist mad. But the 614 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: most wild. 615 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 8: Part of it, Steve, is that clip that I played 616 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 8: after and maybe people were able to tell that it 617 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 8: was from twenty seventeen because he didn't have the like 618 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 8: Victorian Lady white powder makeup on. 619 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: Like he did for CNN. But in that exact. 620 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 8: Clip for I'm Really making you laugh for a c 621 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 8: for the Brookings Institution, he literally says that Trump cannot 622 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 8: pardon his son. And you know, we love receipts here 623 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 8: in the war room, So I'll remind Norm who loves 624 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 8: Norm so much he probably created his name to be 625 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: named after it. But he tweeted then in December twenty seventeen, 626 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 8: and I quote why Trump can't pardon himself at all? 627 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 8: Or Jared Don Junior and others. He literally said that 628 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 8: Trump could not pardon his family members. And he went 629 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 8: on an entire social media and think tank care about 630 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 8: why they couldn't do this. But besides the obvious top 631 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 8: line hypocrisy, how easy it is to dunk on Norm 632 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 8: for this double standard, it's something much deeper, right, And 633 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 8: this goes all the way back, like it always does, 634 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 8: to the Transition Integrity Project, which was of course that 635 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 8: Soros even Chinese Communist Party funded operation to steal the 636 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 8: election from Donald Trump in twenty twenty. 637 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: And what was so interesting. 638 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 8: About this was that they actually had an entire section 639 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 8: in the memo where they were gamed out all the 640 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 8: ways that Donald Trump, and if Denver wants to put 641 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 8: the picture up on screen, you can see it how 642 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 8: they thought that President Trump was going to go on 643 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 8: a pardoning spree. They had a whole entire section called 644 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 8: pardon Everyone, and almost every transition integrity project scenario team 645 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 8: Trump executed or prepared for the pardon of relatives, campaign associates, 646 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 8: and himself. In other words, you can't get a more 647 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 8: clear example of projection. 648 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: And just to cap this all off. 649 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 8: Because again, like I said, you talk about seizing the 650 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 8: institutions right now, this is also about dominating the narrative 651 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 8: against these people who have bashed us over the head 652 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 8: with the word democracy. They can't get through a sentence 653 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 8: without saying it twenty seven times that these are the 654 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 8: people who are now quite literally using the same tactics 655 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 8: in playbook that they have written Soros funded white papers 656 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 8: on about how countries and Eastern Europe and countries that 657 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 8: have taken up the populace mantle the same tactics that 658 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 8: they have used that they call corrupt so much so 659 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 8: that normalize them. Back in twenty twenty one, see you 660 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 8: felt the need to write an entire New York Times 661 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 8: off ed. We can toss the headline up on screen 662 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 8: the problem with Trump's own pardon of Steve Bannon. 663 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: Wow, Norm, thank you, Hey. 664 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: I want to play Natalie Hanger for one second. If 665 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: never could play the lawyer at the second part, because 666 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: I want you to when she talks about, hey, these 667 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: pardons aren't free, because then you take back to Fifth Amendment. 668 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: Listen to what she talks about of what will happen 669 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: these people. 670 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and can we play that again? 671 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 5: Depends on the breadth of the wording. And that's why 672 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 5: folks like me will sit and wordsmith some of these 673 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 5: things if President Biden decides to do them, because they 674 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 5: want to insulate these preemptive pardons from challenge. But Jose, 675 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 5: a preemptive pardon is not without its own dangers. Remember, 676 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 5: if you pardon someone, you're removing their criminal exposure in 677 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: the past, I mean for their past actions, and that 678 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: means they can't invoke the Fifth Amendment, for example, with 679 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 5: respect to that conduct. 680 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: If they're called upon to. 681 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 5: Testify and other criminal proceedings are even before Congress. That 682 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 5: would mean if Joe Biden were to preemptively pardon, for example, 683 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 5: Jack Smith and others on his team, he would also 684 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: be subjecting them to lengthy congressional hearings, potentially at which 685 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 5: they could not say, I invoke the Fifth Amendment. They 686 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 5: may have other privileges, including the attorney client privilege that 687 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 5: applies to their work for the Justice Department, but it 688 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 5: could expose other people to having to talk ad nauseum 689 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 5: about what they have done and of course subject themselves 690 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: to future charges for perjury if they're found not to 691 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 5: be telling the truth. 692 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: Natalie, talk ad nauseum about what they've done. I mean, 693 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: come on, baby, in this what we want? I mean, 694 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: I think we went either way because this is a 695 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: search for truth and a search for justice. Retribution is 696 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: going to be President Trump having four amazing years and 697 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: get you know, we get too close to the sunlit uplands, 698 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: but we can never again allow to happen what happened 699 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: over the last four years. So if they give the pardons, 700 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: they strip away their Fifth Amendment rights, and then at 701 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: both congressional hearings and other inquests, they can't hide behind 702 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: the Fifth Amendment. 703 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: Correct, So it's a we got a win win going here. 704 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 705 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 8: I mean also too, I love her admission where they're 706 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 8: saying that in the media they're going to have to 707 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 8: quote wordsmith President Biden's pardons. 708 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: I mean, what kind of collaboration is going on there? 709 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 4: I think that's an. 710 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 8: Interesting admission that I probably look forward to Lisa Rubin 711 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 8: testifying about in some capacity, but I think the sort 712 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 8: of varied lead, if not the tacit admission and everything 713 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 8: she says. I mean, she's the one that uses the 714 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 8: word and I quote expose. They're worried about testifying. What 715 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 8: do you have to hide? I mean that was what 716 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 8: they bashed us over the head with with all things 717 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 8: President Donald J. Trump, And like you said, the best 718 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 8: revenge is and always has been, you know, making America 719 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 8: great again. It's not retribution, it's actual accountability and justice. 720 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 8: So if they want to issue these preemptive pardons, then sure, 721 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 8: go ahead. I guess we'll have to just use you know, 722 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 8: other levers and mechanisms of justice to get them. 723 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: But I think the audience sho't. 724 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 8: Underestimate the extent to which they are really planning and 725 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 8: plotting on actually doing this. Right now, you're sort of 726 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 8: seeing them lay the media and narrative groundwork to bring 727 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 8: up normalize. And again it was just yesterday and Newsweek 728 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 8: that he had a long off ed pardons may be 729 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 8: key to protecting people from political persecution. And in the 730 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 8: same vein Steve, the Jonathan Martin political piece that sort 731 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 8: of broke this whole story. They were saying that they 732 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 8: wanted to pardon people who quote maybe in President Trump's crosshairs. 733 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 4: So they're playing a very very funny. 734 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 8: And cunning analytical game where they're trying to I always say, victim, 735 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 8: blame the American people. No, no, no, it's not the 736 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 8: American people or Donald Trump who has a vendetta for 737 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 8: these people. 738 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: These people brought it on themselves. 739 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 8: And I think the best evidence that you need for 740 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 8: all of this is just the fact that Hunter Biden's 741 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 8: pardon extends back so far to twenty fourteen to what 742 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 8: was going on in Ukraine with all things Brisma, because 743 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 8: the most important part in Steve Frank, I think the 744 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 8: messaging opportunity that House Republicans and James Comber really failed 745 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 8: to hit and hammer home is that Hunter Biden was 746 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 8: not an isolated incident. There were lasting, enduring ramifications that 747 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 8: we have seen to the present day that affect Joe 748 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 8: Biden's approach to Ukraine and that region more broadly. And 749 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 8: I don't think that they ever really did an effective 750 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 8: job of getting that message across. But Joe Biden did 751 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 8: just that by placing that part in all the way 752 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 8: back to the year twenty fourteen. 753 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: Natalie, hang around for a second. 754 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: We're a little jammed for time, but I want to 755 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: work some that Mike Ben's gave a great account of 756 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: himself the other day on Joe Rogan. He's got a 757 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 2: clip in there. I want to play and get your response. 758 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: Also want to talk about color revolutions for a second. 759 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: The heat on Cash that was white hot. Natalie really 760 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: has dissipated a lot right over the last twenty four 761 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: or forty eight hours. And I think because the Republicans 762 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: in the Senate understand that there are some very bad 763 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: stuff that went on, not just the FBI, but in 764 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: other places, and it has to be investigated. 765 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: I think the sea change we've seen. 766 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: Here in Cash but Tell is one of the most 767 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: important sea changes I have seen in Washington, d C. 768 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: I think as people have come to conclusion that you're 769 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: going to need somebody very focused, very tough, that knows 770 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: this and doesn't have to get it, doesn't need a 771 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: learning curve. 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Natalie Winners. 782 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: On the other side, we originally. 783 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 11: When Trump won in twenty sixteen, at the same time 784 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 11: that all these right wing populist parties who were just 785 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 11: like Trump also won between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen, 786 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 11: primarily using free speech on social media and their popularity there. 787 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 11: They argue that right wing populism was the same authoritarian 788 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 11: threat that left wing socialism, left wing communism was, And 789 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 11: so they said, well, populism is the people's ground up 790 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 11: revolt against institutions, against against government, science media, against the NGOs, 791 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 11: the experts, the academics. So what they did is they 792 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 11: argued that democracy has to be defended from demagogery. Democracy 793 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 11: needs guard rails, we need bumper cars on democracy that 794 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 11: go beyond what people vote for, because people voted for Hitler, 795 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 11: people voted for Trump. And they were doing this at 796 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 11: US government conferences, by the way, in twenty seventeen. I 797 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 11: can show you some funny ones if you're interested. But 798 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 11: they were arguing that we need these institutional guard rails 799 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 11: against people voting for the wrong person. And those institutional 800 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 11: guard rails are so called democratic institutions, which is another 801 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 11: cute rhetorical trick, because that's the CIA State Department watchword 802 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 11: for asset. When USAID, for example, goes in and funds 803 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 11: university centers, media outlets, parliamentarian groups, activist groups, legal scholars, 804 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 11: you name it. In a region, they are building up 805 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 11: their assets to exert soft power influence on that society, 806 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 11: on that government, in order to influence the passage of laws. 807 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 11: You know, the span of operations that they're doing that 808 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 11: touch the US embassy in the region. And so what 809 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 11: they argued is actually democracy is not about the will 810 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 11: of individuals, it's about the consensus of institutions. So if 811 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 11: there's institutional consensus building between the military, the diplomatic sphere, 812 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 11: the intelligence community, the NGOs, the media outlets, the universities, 813 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 11: that's really democracy. Those are the institutional guardrails, the people 814 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 11: who know best. That's a difficult process, by the way, 815 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 11: that's a process that takes months years. That's why there 816 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 11: are these major consensus building institutions like the Atlanta Council 817 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 11: and the Council on Farm Relations and Wilson Center and 818 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 11: the Carnegie Endowment. We have a whole suite of consensus 819 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 11: building institutions to bring together the banks, the corporations, the 820 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 11: government officials, the outside interests, so they all get on 821 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 11: the same page about a certain policy or initiative or 822 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 11: regional drive or industrial change. If at the end of 823 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 11: that process a bunch of people vote for a politician 824 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 11: because he does funny TikTok videos or he's got a 825 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 11: popular dance and throws a monkey wrench in that years 826 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 11: of those years of consensus building, that they began to 827 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 11: view as a as an attack on democracy. And so 828 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 11: they said that democracy is really about institutions. And you 829 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 11: can actually look up for example, Reid Hoffman in twenty nineteen, 830 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 11: they were doing all of these conferences where they said 831 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 11: elections are a threat to democracy. Elections corrupt democracy because 832 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 11: we can't think of democracy's elections anymore. For example, Ukraine 833 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 11: has banned elections. We still say we are providing three 834 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 11: hundred billion dollars in military to support to promote democracy 835 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 11: in Ukraine, even though they don't have elections. What's because 836 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 11: of it's controlled by US institutions. 837 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, the smartest guy's out there, Mike Benz and man. 838 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope, I hope that Mike Benz goes 839 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: in and helps President Trump to so much of Mike 840 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 2: Ben's Canadian one of the heavyweight public intellectuals out there. 841 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do is I've got I'm gonna hold 842 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: Natalie over Jack Posobic. He's going to join me the 843 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: next hour. There's a lot going on in Ukraine, but 844 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 2: in Syria, I think you may have Turkey involved. Syria's 845 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: turned into a very serious situation, not just for Israel 846 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: but for the entire region. And what we're going to 847 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: have break it all down, what's happening in Syria and 848 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: also this, you know, their favorite playpen, their favorite playbox 849 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: is a sandbox is Ukraine. With a lot to break 850 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: down about that. That's Mike Benz on Joe Rogan the 851 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: other day, and that was a masterclass. We just cut 852 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: three and a half minutes, but you can listen to 853 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: the whole thing. If you haven't, you ought to go 854 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: over and listen to Rogan. Now it's going to stick 855 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 2: with us for the six o'clock hour. I want to 856 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: make sure by the way we're putting out on Birch Gold, 857 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna come out with modern monetary theory here. 858 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: In a couple of weeks. 859 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: Make sure you go to birch Gold dot com slash 860 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: ben and get all the end of the end of 861 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 2: the Dollar Empire up until nine. I think it's seven 862 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 2: or eight installments, all free, all totally free, so you 863 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: can get it and read it and get up totally 864 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: up to speed. Make sure you go check it out. 865 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: Mike Lindell joins us. Mike tell Us sell us some 866 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: pilaser on a Friday afternoon. 867 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 12: Well, it's a special to the specials. But I want 868 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 12: to quick tell you about the flannel sheets here. Everybody, 869 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 12: they are going past. Once they're gone, they're gone. And 870 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 12: I know the war room posse it these are your sheets. 871 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 12: These all different styles of colors, but there it's a 872 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 12: very limited supply and they will be gone as Christmas gifts. 873 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 12: Ever everyone's going to love them. Your extended warranty goes 874 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 12: to our extended sixty day money back here goes to 875 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 12: March first of twenty twenty five, as low as fifty 876 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 12: nine ninety eight A set promo code war Room. 877 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: Go to the website. 878 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 12: We've got over I take three hundred products, over two 879 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 12: thousand skews. But there it is all the Christmas specials. 880 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 12: Get yourself a bed, say fifty percent, and take another 881 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 12: one hundred dollars off for the promo code warm Room. 882 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 12: There's the mattress top for gets yourself some we've got 883 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 12: you've got to be sleeping well, remember you're waking up 884 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 12: from that bend. You got your backstore. You need a 885 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 12: different input to get a different output. That's as simple 886 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 12: as that. All the slippers we just put on sale. 887 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 12: All the slippers that's going to be a very limited 888 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 12: for the warm room policy. All the slippers made out 889 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 12: of that impact shell, the bedther you wear them like shoes. 890 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 12: The most comfortable slippers in history. There's the bathrobes we 891 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 12: talked about this morning. Once they're gone, they're gone. These 892 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 12: are we got very limited supplies of those two items. 893 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 12: And then you have the things that made us famous. 894 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 12: To my pillow eighteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty eight for 895 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 12: the King and Queen. All the kitchen kitchen towels, there's 896 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 12: all them. They're on sale for the lowest price in 897 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 12: history fourteen ninety eight. So we have you guys right now. 898 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 12: Get the stuff. The planal sheets here, all these different 899 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 12: styles are of this. For the winter sheets are here 900 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 12: and we're very limited. 901 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 2: Call eight hundred and eight seventy three. 902 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 12: One zero six to two. Remember those are my They 903 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 12: work from home and we won that fight. They work 904 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 12: these across our country, moms and dads working from home, 905 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 12: taking your calls. So they love it, appreciating off to 906 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 12: be able to to promo code war rooms. 907 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 3: Let's hit it. 908 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: Let's make us light those sohones of Micha Lindell. Thank 909 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 2: you very much. We'll see you tomorrow morning on Saturday, 910 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 2: our favorite show of the week. 911 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 3: Michael Lindell join us. 912 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a short commercial breaker'n Leave with Billy 913 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 2: Strings in the Book of Revelations from Saint John the Evangelist, 914 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: When the Man comes around. Natalie Winners, Jack Pasobic, Naomi Wolf. 915 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 12: Next you partake of that last offered cup, disappear into 916 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 12: the pottet. 917 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 4: Put the man phones around here, the Trump