1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two, episode two 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: of DOS Daily's Eight Guys for November twenty one, two 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen. My name is Jack O'Brien, a k 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Young Jackfruit, and I am joined by my co host, 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Yes, Hello, it's your boy, your boy 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: kusama and shout out to Doug Gibson on Twitter for 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: the kind words and reviews. And we are thrilled to 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat. This is gonna be 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the first time our third seat is remote. He is 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: a hilarious writer who currently writes for SNL. He was 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: one of the co writers of the David S. Pumpkins 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: sketch from last year, among many great sketches. Please welcome 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Streeter Siddel. What's up, guys, Thanks for having me and 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: SNL is Saturday Night Live, Right, That's yeah, that's correct. Okay, 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure we were talking about the 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: same show. Okay, we're doing a real Michael Barbara from there. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: From the other day, there's this New York Times Daily 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: podcast where the guy just assumes like absolutely no knowledge 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: on the part of his listeners. He's like, now, SNL 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: is is that Saturday Night live is that he's like 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: and Saturday, Saturday is a day of the week, right exactly. Uh? So, Street, 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: or what's something uh that you have searched in the 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: not too distant past that is revealing about who you 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: are as a human being. I searched cough, cough, red 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: bumps back because I have an eighteen month old and 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: he was coughing and he had red bumps on his back. 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not They're really not much to it 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: than that, But I was like, I guess, out of context, 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: this is a pretty weird phrase. It seems like hard 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: red bumps back. And I mean that's just one of 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I would say hundreds of strange like medical like my 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: medical words combined in various ways. I've been searching for 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: the past year and a half. Yeah, because these kids, 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll say, some of these kids, they're always sick. These kids. 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. Street and I, uh sons 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: were born right around each other. Are you searching for 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff? I'm just realizing what a luxury 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: it is to be married to a doctor, because I 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: never really worry about that ship because I'm just like, 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: literally deal with it. Hey, doctor, what's going on? Right. 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm married to a physician assistant. But 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: she's like, I don't know, She's like, I do allergies. 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what this stuff is. I think that 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: it might just be me being a worse father because 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I just assumed my wife would like notice if anything 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: was wrong. Maybe I'm being a worse husband not trusting. Um. 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Do you find yourself as new fathers? I guess is 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: to the both of you? Do you find yourself googling 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of things to try and like under stand 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: the new life form that you're taking care of constantly? Yeah, 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: i'd say quite a bit. And also like what he 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: should be doing at any given time, and like what 53 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I should be doing? And yeah, and just googling, Hey, 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: what do I do right now with my baby? And 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: he's like, we need more context answer this ques A 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of it for me is like in that I mean, 57 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: it's like I'll call it google ease or whatever, like 58 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: the language that you search things in of just being like, 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, boy, when talk, you know, boy, when when 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: draw circle? It's a lot of like, is is he um, 61 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, on track to be a genius? Because if 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: he's not, I don't know what I'm gonna do while 63 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: he's drawing circles already. That's well, he calls them circles. 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: They're kind of scribbles. Well, the fact that he can 65 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: call it anything, it's pretty good. Come on, Jack, what 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: would you? What's I gotta go? I gotta go, I 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: gotta go. My kids already doing sacred geometry, sob we'll 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: catch up, streeter Or what's something you think is overrated? 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: All right? Father? This is being thanksgiving time. Well, in 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: terms of fatherhood, the first three months of fatherhood are 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: very overrated my experience. Yeah, they're really bad and not 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: fun and very not rewarding. I mean, just a lot 73 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: of work and um, very little pleasure or thanks. Your 74 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: only reward is just that you're keeping the thing alive 75 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: because there's no and it's like you're keeping your wife 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: alive by like bringing home food. Who's keeping who's doing 77 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: all the work? Um, but for some reason, you have 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: to stay awake? Two is what I noticed. Like she 79 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: would just wake me up and you know, be like 80 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: the baby's crying and I need to breastfeed him. So 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: you you're gonna wake up too, right, Okay? Because I'm 82 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: just sitting here. Um, so I found that and then uh, 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, very quickly that goes from being overrated to 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: underrated and you're like, oh my god, this is the 85 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: best thing in the world. But man, those first three 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: months really stink. Don't don't. Don't believe anybody who says 87 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: that they loved it. They're lying their liars. Um. But 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: it really doesn't get better and better. Yeah, get older 89 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: and as they get older. But also I think overrated. 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Is that jumb dog show that's on that's on every Thanksgiving, 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: The dumb Dog, you know, the Westminster Kennel Clubs. People 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: act like this is a cool thing that they look 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: forward to. I'm like, do you really are you interested 94 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: in competitive dog breeding or whatever whatever they're being judged on. 95 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: I don't even know. It's just but I find it 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: to be pretty boring to be I think the best 97 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: thing to come out of that, I think is best 98 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: in show the movie. Yeah, they should just show that 99 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: movie instead, because that's great, right. I just don't know, 100 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: like how you compare. Like I get it if it's like, Okay, 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: it's all Labrador retrievers and we're gonna judge them against 102 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: each other, But like you're putting like a a massif 103 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: up against the ship, Zo up against the docks, and 104 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, how what how can you compare these two creatures? 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Like clearly they're both their own kind of monster that 106 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: we made, so you know, I don't know anyway, Yeah, 107 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: overrated in my opinion. I feel like it would be 108 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: more interesting if they if you could like mix up 109 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: breeds and like have a St. Bernard's sized Chitzue or something. 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Where's the Mutt show at? I'm I'm I'm ready for 111 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: the mut show because I think most people in this 112 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: day and age we rescue dogs who typically are mixes 113 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: of many different dogs. I'm down to see like what 114 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: the most out there, like Mutt is. I would almost 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: go the other way and say I'm ready for like 116 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: the freak dog show, like who can make who bred 117 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: the biggest dog? You know, like that kind of biggest 118 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: largest head. Yeah, just like like short like I have 119 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: docks ins were docks in family, and so just like 120 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: shortest legs, Like let me see the dog with the 121 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: least leg basically looks like a caterpillar with four legs. Yeah, 122 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Like I guess that I would watch that because that 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: at least would be kind of interesting to be like, 124 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, look at that monstrosity that just trotted 125 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: out here. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated? Well, 126 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: I think rotissory chicken. Not as I was coming up 127 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: with my things, I realized they're almost all food. Um, 128 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: but like nobody really gives it up for rotissory chicken, 129 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: especially now Thanksgiving. It you know, turkey is the start 130 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: of the show. Turkey stinks. It's not good. It's dry, 131 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: it's huge, it's like okay when it you know, when 132 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: it's hot, and then it just becomes like eating Chalk'll 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: just read chicken. On the other hand, tender, delicious, much smaller, easier, 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: easier to manage, and I feel like it should be 135 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: more popular than it is and it's not. Well, I 136 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: remember like when Boston Market came out, that was like 137 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the that was like a game changer for the protisserie chickens. 138 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's great, my family eats. Now it's chicken 139 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: also maybe underrated. If we're talking like birds, we eat duck. 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: Duck is definitely the best one. Oh yeah, really it's not. 141 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean I think so it's like, yeah, it's not dry, 142 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: it's really good. But I don't know, people just like 143 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: aren't into eating duck for whatever reason. They're like, give 144 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: me this dry turkey. I agree with the turkey thing, 145 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: and every time I've complained about it, there's always been 146 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: some foodie present who's like, you've just not had the 147 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: right way. Yeah, you just have to have turkey. I 148 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: mean you could probably say that about almost any food 149 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: that kind of stinks. So I'm sure an amazing chef 150 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: could do something wonderful with it. But you know, no 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: one in my family is that. One year, my mom 152 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: like salted the living ship out of it, so it 153 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: was like real like it had like almost like a 154 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: salt crust on it, and it was actually fucking that sounds, 155 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: but it preserved your insides after one night, exactly, I 156 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: have not since also underrated. I'll just throw this one 157 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: out there. I don't know if you guys watched this show, 158 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: The Great British Bake Off. I have heard great things 159 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: about that, and every fantis thing I've heard about it 160 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: has not convinced me to watch it, because it's just 161 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: they're just like, it's so boring, but like in a 162 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: great way, and it's just it's not boring, not I 163 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: find it not boring. I mean, look, there's no steaks, 164 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Like I don't even think they win anything. They just win, 165 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: like the they just get win. That's it. I think 166 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: there's like a cash prize. No. The thing that really 167 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: drew me in is that like how the English is 168 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: treat each other, Like on an American reality contest show, 169 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: it's like cutthroat, fuck you, like I'm gonna hide ingredients, 170 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: and like on The Great British Bake Off, they're like 171 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: they're so kind to each other. They're helping each other, 172 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: supporting each other, And to me, that was like one 173 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: of the most entertaining things, Like, wow, I love watching 174 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: I guess my new form of entertainment is just watching 175 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: people treat each other with respect and kindness I think. 176 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's so nice about is like I'm 177 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, especially now, it seems just like everyone is 178 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: just immersed in nastiness and awful things all the time. 179 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: So like I just put on this stupid, stupid British 180 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: show where were these like friendly, quaint little British people 181 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: in a tent making cakes. Um, and it's just a 182 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: real nice palate cleanser. You're like, oh, I guess there 183 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: are still just a nice people in the world out there, 184 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and they admit when they did a bad job, which 185 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: is ready for a reality each other, they're just like, ah, yeah, 186 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's it's it came out. I'm sorry. It's 187 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: like it's rubbish, Like who does that on a on 188 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: a show you're trying to win, right, we just lie 189 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: American our mistakes over here. I mean, it's offensive. It 190 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: almost sounds like it could be its own genre of 191 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: reality show where it's people who treat each other well 192 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: as opposed, because that does seem to be just an 193 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: unspoken rule of American reality shows is that you just 194 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: hate each other and will lie and cheat until like right, 195 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: even if there is no object, like the object is 196 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: to like talk shit about someone the moment they leave 197 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: the room, like, because I think reality producers have just 198 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: assumed that, like that's how you create drama or something 199 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: like that. Um, but yeah, I would just say that again. 200 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: You guys are trying to sell me on this and 201 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: the adjectives you're using our stupid quaint uh tent no steaks. Uh. 202 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: So it's just I don't quite get it. I'm gonna 203 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: watch it one of these days. But I just don't 204 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: let me throw in one more, just pitch for it 205 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: in that they have some true weirdos making cakes and 206 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: stuff in there. I mean some some real care I 207 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: do like weirdosas welcome in my world. Um, all right, 208 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: let's get into format. So we're trying to take a 209 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: sample of the ideas that are out there changing the 210 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,239 Speaker 1: world whether we're looking or not. We talked about politics 211 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: and the president and the news, but we also talk 212 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: about movies, uh and supermarket tabloids because those affect the 213 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: ideas people have. The covers of tabloids still get into 214 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: millions of people's minds every day because people still need 215 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: to buy milk and mostly they have eyes. And the 216 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: tabloids are all run by a weird Trump worshiping c 217 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: from New York named David Pecker. So we're trying to 218 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: just take a temperature of what's affecting the national shared consciousness. 219 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: And one of the things we like to do to 220 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: start things off is ask our guest if there is 221 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: any sort of myth that's out there in the zeitgeist that, 222 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: based on their personal like life experience, they would like 223 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: to correct for the audience. All Right, you know, I 224 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: brought up before we start recording, I brought up a 225 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: different one, but now here's one I just thought of, 226 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: Um that because I'm from Connecticut, which is a you know, 227 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: tried and true blue state, I think it's reputation is 228 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: as like a very rich, little liberal enclave, um, and 229 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that it's it has this very kind of like liberal 230 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: mindset and whatever. And that is very true along the 231 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: coast sign. But the myth that there are no conservative 232 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: is like deep South conservatives in the Northeast, I I 233 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: have to say, is sadly untrue. It is like anywhere 234 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: in the Northeast. That's not just Connecticut, anywhere in upstate 235 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: New York and Massachusetts. Um, there are just it's basically 236 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: Kentucky in a lot of places, like rebel flags flying, 237 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: people like running around like for real, yeah, which is 238 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: so funny to me. So I'm like, you you realize 239 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: that this part of the country uh went the other 240 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: way out that Civil War, right you guys, you guys 241 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: know how that went down, right, Um? But just like yeah, 242 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: like true kind of and they I think they even 243 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: talk with a weird Southern accent like I grew up 244 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: with kids in my like you know, little liberal town 245 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: where I grew up. Who who kind of would be like, hey, yeah, man, really, 246 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: what part of Connecticut are you from? Where you're you're 247 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: getting a little twang on it um And you know, 248 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: so just as there you always hear about these kind 249 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: of like Austin for instance, and Texas has this little 250 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: blue um you know, this this little blue beacon in 251 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the middle of this deep red state. It goes the 252 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: other it definitely goes the other way to or there's 253 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: just like just as many kind of like rednecky, uh, 254 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of backwards thinking folks up in the rich liberal 255 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: coastal spots. So I guess it's my plea to or 256 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: any of your southern, deeply, deeply right wing listeners to 257 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, don't don't hate on us so much. There's 258 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: your kind of people up there too. Yeah. Uh, Connecticut's interesting. 259 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: So in your town, do people root for the Red 260 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Sox or the Yankees. That's a fascinating question because we 261 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: are my town where I grew up as the last 262 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: town in in the in New Haven County, which is 263 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of where the New York influence ends. Yeah, and 264 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: then from their east it's all kind of New England 265 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: e like very Red Sox patriots. It's very kind of 266 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: like Boston centric. And then from their west is all 267 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: New York centric, so it's a it's like a split 268 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: town divided. There's a really interesting article or a book 269 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: called the Eleven Nations of America where this guy basically 270 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: broke down, uh, these eleven regions of America based on 271 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: like the who settled them, and he pointed out that 272 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of the values that came over with 273 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: them from their country are still there. And Connecticut's really 274 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: interesting because you can actually like see there's like a 275 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: dividing line, and below that dividing line people are like 276 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Giants and Yankees fans, and above that dividing line it's 277 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Red Sox and uh, but they have like completely different values. 278 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: The guy's argument is that if America were drawn along 279 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: the same lines of Western Europe, we would be eleven 280 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: separate nations, uh, you know, with Yankee dum and like 281 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: Massachusetts and all those places being one country. And then 282 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: I forget what he calls. It's basically like Dutch people 283 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: settled in New York and southern Connecticut, but um, I 284 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: always grew up with a much more kind of New 285 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: York leaning attitude, even though I was like right on 286 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: that line of like half my friends were all just 287 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of just like half of them moved to Boston 288 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: and I was just not interested in Boston. Still not 289 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: interested in Boston. Yeah, Boston. Speaking of northern rednecks, Boston 290 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: is probably like, and you hear this from athletes who 291 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, have to play in Boston say the Boston 292 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: like the most racist city in the country essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 293 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I don't have any firsthand experience. 294 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: They're they're pretty nice to white people. Um, from what 295 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: I could tell just from going down there, no one, 296 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: no one was ever really racist to me there. But 297 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: that's I've I've definitely heard. I mean, look, the Boston 298 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: tea party was like it was a very Boston thing 299 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: to do, like kind of dress up in these like 300 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: offensive costumes and like you know, wreck some property and stuff. 301 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: That's not that out of character for like you know, 302 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: some Bruins fans or something. After a game like that's 303 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: not crazy, right, all right, we're gonna take a quick 304 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: break and when we get back, we're gonna get into 305 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: the news. And we're back. So we wanted to get 306 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: into uh some of the just torrants of bad news 307 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: that that we're being pelted with these days. Uh, it 308 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: seems like the f c C is planning on repealing 309 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: net neutrality. Uh, Miles, you want to explain what that 310 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: means to people? It basically requires our internet service providers, 311 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: in these telecoms companies, to treat all of your web 312 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: traffic equally, so it doesn't matter what site it's from 313 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: or what the content is. That the information flows, you know, 314 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: unobstructed and there are no uh pay walls to get behind, 315 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: and it's just like basically like you know, it's like 316 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: a utility. It's like water, you know, just let it flow. 317 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I was announced today that basically that 318 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: the FEC is going to vote to roll back basically 319 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: all the Obama era rules around net neutrality, which obviously 320 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: is like a huge celebratory moment for telecoms providers because 321 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: they're hiding behind arguments like well, you know these regulations, man, 322 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: they really kept us from investing and whatnot. But for 323 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: people who are really big proponents of net neutrality, and 324 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: I think every single person listening should be, is that 325 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: this can lead to a very very slippery slope of 326 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: if if now the telecoms companies can decide, you know, 327 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: how our information is moving or what sites. Uh, you know, 328 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: if if it's possible to throttle data to certain sites, 329 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: that's like that will be the beginning of like sort 330 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: of corporate sanctioned censorship of our information. So you know, 331 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: like one thing would be like, you know, like telecoms 332 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: coming you could like block certain websites, so if you 333 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: wanted to, you could go to the websites that they 334 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: own for like a free price or no paywall, or 335 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: they'd be like, hey, how about you pay a little 336 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: more and now you can access political or you can 337 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: access the post, or you can access whatever the website 338 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: is that you you like, um and the other and 339 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: the other thing to worry about is like the idea 340 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: of like fast lanes too, because that's another idea that's 341 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: been thrown around, is that, uh that these telecoms providers 342 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: can actually create a fast lane stuff like your Netflix. 343 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: They're like, well, if you want your data to get 344 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: to your users quicker, you can pay to be in 345 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: our fast lane. That's way. That way your video loads 346 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: quick enough. But that would also be tremendous disadvantage to 347 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: like companies that don't have that kind of financial capital. 348 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: So again, this isn't like the end of it like, 349 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: but at the very least, this is the very beginning 350 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: of a possibly troubling uh movement to like you know 351 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: and net neutrality, which would be pretty tragic because I 352 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, we've all benefited 353 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: from the open the open Internet, and we need to 354 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: keep it open because yeah, along with all the shitty 355 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: things that happened on the Internet, this free flow of information, 356 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: aside from like convincing yourself you have cancer on web md, 357 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: there are other really good things that happened. So yes, 358 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I think people need to I think once this debate begins, 359 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: people need to really be on top of this to 360 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: make sure you know that we keep our internets free 361 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: and open. Yeah. I mean, I am only have a 362 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: career because I've started a website that would definitely not 363 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: have existed if it if you know, the Internet operated 364 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: like the rest of businesses, and you know, you needed 365 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: uh a shipload of capital just to start a website, 366 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: which it sounds like could be the direction things are headed. 367 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but more so in the sense of like, 368 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: like the way you want the data to be served. 369 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you can start a website for a 370 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: little money, but then if you know, if you want 371 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: people to go to that web, if there are no 372 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: if these regulations are you know, it turns into the 373 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: wild West crazy stuff. I mean, like the nightmare scenario. 374 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Could yeah be that, like it would be very hard 375 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: for you to have any kind of exposure. Yeah, I 376 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: feel like we have Like the more I more research 377 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: I do into our country, the more it seems like 378 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: we have way too many barriers to entry and like 379 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: artificial like doors being closed. Last week, on the the 380 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: FCC voted in a three to split to limit the 381 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: program called Lifeline, which basically funds internet access for low 382 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: income communities. It was three Republicans to two Democrats. But yeah, 383 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: it's all part of the fccs this new fccs idea 384 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: that internet is not you know, a given right, uh 385 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: or something something that we all need access to. Well 386 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: not so. So it's like an attack on people of 387 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: color to like, most of the people that benefit from 388 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: this are people of color. And also this affects people 389 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: who live on tribal lands. And it's just crazy to think, 390 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, this was a program that was started by 391 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan and eight five because he felt like a 392 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of people just didn't have a phone and thought 393 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: that was probably a problem. Uh. And then over time 394 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: it evolved like under Bush two and two thousand five, 395 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: I used to cover cell phones. Uh. And then last 396 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: year in is when the FCC added broadband to lists 397 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: of services that were covered under lifeline. The reason that Reagan, 398 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: the guy who invented like hating government is, was like, man, 399 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: it's still crazy that low income people, some low income 400 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: people don't have access to phone lines, so we need 401 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to give them access to online so that they can 402 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: just have normal, modern lives. And now they're they're backing 403 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: away from that CC because they're bad people. Agit Pie 404 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: bad dude, the dude with the worst Reese's Peanut Butter 405 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: oversized coffee mug we've ever seen. He has like a 406 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: running bit where he just at every press conference he 407 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: brings out a giant coffee mug and it's like it's 408 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: like the Shinai a bit and I heart Huckabees. It's 409 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: like his one joke that he goes to every time. Yeah, 410 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's it's it's it's I mean, it's a 411 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: tricky thing. Like, first of all, disclaimer, I do work 412 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: for Comcast. I guess technically I think they don't cut 413 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: my check. But um that said, I'm a Spectrum customer 414 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: at home. So um. But it's like, you know, on 415 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: the one hand, you don't want uh government and regulation 416 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: of the Internet because it was precisely not that that 417 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: made the Internet great to begin with. You know, it 418 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: was just the company's decided to treat all traffic equally. 419 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: And then it seemed like that just kind of happened 420 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: very naturally, you know, um, because there weren't any just 421 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: massively powerful Internet companies yet. And then I think during 422 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the Obama era they realized, like, oh uh, we better 423 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: like enshrine this this kind of level playing field in policy, otherwise, 424 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of giant companies and telecoms could 425 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: kind of take over, you know. Um. So it's it's 426 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: it's weird because like, I also don't think you want 427 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: the government saddling uh telecoms with like a billion regulations. 428 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, like the one regulation is treat all traffic equally, 429 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: and that seems perfectly fine. Um. So like I get 430 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: I get the argument from the other side. I don't 431 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: think the argument is real. I don't think you know 432 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: that those those net neutrality rules were stifling innovation or 433 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: whatever they're saying. Um, but like they also don't. I 434 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: don't trust telecoms to treat all traffic equally, even though 435 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: they claim that they will. It's like, well, you know, 436 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: why would you when you have shareholders who demand a profit, 437 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, if there's this free way to make a 438 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: profit pretty much to just go all right, well we'll 439 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: just charge Netflix more whatever because they're eating up half 440 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: of the bandwidth every single night. Um, what's to stop 441 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: them from doing that? You know? And also like what's 442 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: to stop Netflix from paying it? They will right need 443 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: to make money to you know, like it just it 444 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: kind of just sucks. It's like, Oh, we had this 445 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: great kind of open, cool thing, and then it's like 446 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: when the band you like get's famous and it's like, oh, 447 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: now now ever everybody's like scrambling to it. Now the 448 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: concerts suck. Yeah, It's like, oh I can't, like I 449 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: used to be able to just kind of like show 450 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: up and get a ticket, and you know, now I 451 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: gotta like now I'm like buying one on stub however, 452 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm in the nosebleeds, so I don't know. 453 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, part of me has faith that even even 454 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: if they do roll this back, there's going to be 455 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: some kind of maverick company, some like Elon Musk type 456 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: who's like, guess what, I built a new like infrastructure, 457 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna, like, if you sign up with 458 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: my company, I'm not gonna throttle anything. I'm not going 459 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: to charge more for anything. So I feel like they 460 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: might regularly like go after the profit so aggressively that 461 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: they're could end up just killing their own business, if 462 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: that make sense. Yeah, although yeah, I do feel like, 463 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: you know, those massive companies seem to always find a 464 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: way to like block out other companies without government regulation. 465 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: And I mean the Internet is already being sort of 466 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: gobbled up by enormous like monopolies like Google and Facebook 467 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's not like the Internet currently is 468 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: this utopia. Uh you know. I I just think that 469 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: adding this on top of the already you know, dominant 470 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: monopolies would just be like one tangle too many too 471 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: sort of untangle eventually. To me, the bigger thing is 472 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: that like at this point in time, in this day 473 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: and age, to say that, you know, broadband access and 474 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: and an internet access is not a utility seems crazy 475 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: to me, Like, you know, so much of everything is 476 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: run off this technology that it's like, I mean, you know, 477 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: not declassifying it as a utility seems incorrect. I'll put 478 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it in wrong. All right, we need to get into 479 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: our uh sex crime watch or men Ghazi as we've 480 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: been calling um because the updates keep the updates keep coming. Uh. So, 481 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Rose has been fired by CBS now um. And 482 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: it was actually a big story on on the internet 483 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: yesterday that Wes Anderson might have called this. All the 484 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: way back in the Royal tannin Bombs, there was a 485 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: clear Charlie Rose corollary. Um. And during the sort of 486 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: montage where Gwyneth Paltrow's character is like shown hooking up 487 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: with all these different guys, they cut to her on 488 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a book tour with this Charlie Rose character and he's 489 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: like fondling her backstage while she just like sits there 490 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: looking unhappy. UM So, I don't know, it does seem 491 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: like maybe he was he was onto something there, but 492 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: he is Charlie Rose himself is is officially out that 493 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: that's fired, fired, fired fired, Yeah, he gone. Um. John Lasseter, 494 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: who I think is the director of the Toy Story 495 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: films and the cars uh franchise or some of the 496 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: cars franchise. Pick guy just took a leave of absence 497 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: for uh miss steps, I think is how they're putting it. 498 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: John Conyers, Michigan Congressman. He apparently like settled uh to 499 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: just kind of keep this quiet. But it seems like 500 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: through this, like I guess, these these legal documents leaked, uh, 501 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: and it revealed kind of what sort of how sort 502 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: of backwards the whole processes of trying to sue a 503 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: congressman or someone in on Capitol Hill when they've harassed you. Yeah, 504 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: it's just the reporting process is terrible. And uh, that 505 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: podcast we were making fun of earlier, The Daily, actually 506 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: has a really great episode today that talks about this 507 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: that uh just goes through the process of what it 508 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: takes to report somebody on Capitol Hill for a sexual 509 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: harassment or sexual assault. And um, so when somebody tries 510 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: to report, especially a congress person, for sexual harassment, they 511 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: have to go into months of counseling with the person 512 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: who they're accusing. So the accuser and the accused need 513 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: to like sit down together and with a mediator who 514 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: like tries to mediate the problem, which is just like, uh, 515 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: just a nightmare for any victim of sexual assault. Um. 516 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: And then if for some reason they're able to like, 517 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, have the insane amount of courage and stamina 518 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: to keep their accusation up after like sitting in meetings 519 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: with this person for months and having to repeat their 520 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: allegations over and over again. Uh, then like if it 521 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: goes to court, eventually the senator themselves gets legal support 522 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: paid for by the taxpayers, and the accuser gets no support. 523 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: So so it's a it's a system made to protect 524 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the predators, right and make it as uncomfortable as possible 525 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: to report anything like this. It's like it's like a 526 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Nathan for You kind of like episode idea of like 527 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, you want to accuse someone, go 528 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: through all these hoops right with the gas station rebate 529 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: episode of Nathan for You, It's like, yeah, we'll sell 530 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: you dollar gas at a dollar seventy five, but to 531 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: get the rebate, you have to climb up a mountain, 532 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: answer all these riddles and stay overnight until you can 533 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: find the rebate box. Like essentially to just dissuade anybody 534 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: from actually falling through. So it's I think that's that's 535 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: another thing that I think people need to sort of 536 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: preaginning to put their attention on. It's like that there's 537 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: not even a real humane way for people to report 538 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, especially if you're working on the hill. 539 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: That's very typical government, like just making everything as hard 540 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: as absolutely possible. That's why we're fans of the Koch 541 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: brothers here at the Daily like were government. They are 542 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: the best. I love the real the real slap in 543 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the face is legal is legal fees paid by the taxpayer. 544 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: That's just a real like come on, that's I mean, 545 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, I understand like taxes funding certain things for 546 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, our elect were elected representatives since they're theoretically 547 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: working on behalf of of their constituents. But legal fees, 548 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: come on, yeah, not that that. Yeah, don't make me 549 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: complicit in your shitty behavior. Don't make me financially liable 550 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: for your shitty behavior. I mean, to go along with this, 551 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: there's even more news about Roy Moore, uh, the Senate 552 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: candidate in Alabama who's you know, an accused pedophile and 553 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: there's many, many accusations that I seem to confirm these allegations, 554 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: But the most recent one was a story about how 555 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: he met his wife, and it's it's fucking insane, like 556 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: apparently they met when she was twenty three and he 557 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: was thirty seven. Just real quick, like when you here, 558 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Like this has been a thing that they've put out 559 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: in front of him, like, look, he has this wife. 560 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: He has this like very normal marriage. You know, she 561 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: is like speaking now more than he is, because that 562 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: they want that message to get across. He has a 563 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: wife who is not like a preteen, So obviously this 564 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: guy must be normal in the logic of roy More supporters. 565 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, this story is amazing. So he's saying when 566 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: he was deputy, I'll just read this quote he was. 567 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: This is a recent interview he he talked about how 568 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: he attended a dance recital at Gadsden State Junior College 569 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: and said, Wow, when I was deputy district attorney, many 570 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: years before we got married, I saw her at a 571 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: dance recital and I was standing, oh, at the back 572 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: of the auditorium, and I saw her up front. I 573 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: remember her name, it was Kayla Kaiser kk. I never 574 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: did meet her then and I left. It was eight 575 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: years later or something when I met her, and when 576 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: she told me her name, I remembered KK and I said, 577 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: I haven't I met you before? Of course she was younger, 578 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: and she said I don't think so and brushed it off. 579 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: And then I told her and identified it was the dance. 580 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: It was something I had never forgotten. So he's saying 581 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: that they met when she was twenty three and he 582 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: remembers her from eight years before that, when she was fifteen. Yes, 583 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: was when he actually like headed his love at first 584 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: sight moment. Yes, I mean that's a that's a very 585 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: sweet story if he was exactly, But the problem is, 586 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: at best he was maybe twenty nine. Yeah, I don't 587 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: know what what what was he doing at that dance recital? Yeah, exactly. 588 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: That's that's never a good look to be the thirty 589 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: year old dude at a dance recital where they're minors. Like, 590 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: just like, as a fan, what do you say, like, oh, 591 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm a patron of the arts. That's funny. I guess 592 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: if if your daughter is like her son is dancing 593 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: in it, you're gonna want to get their support your kids. 594 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 1: But I think if like, you know, if you're there 595 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: supporting your kid and then you look over there's some 596 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: like thirty year old dude rolling solo who's not a y. 597 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: Does he need to be here because of his duties? 598 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: Is he like handing out? No? No, it's just he's 599 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: like got popcorn. He's just like make sure everything's on 600 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: the up end up. I want to make sure these 601 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: are legal dances that are happy. Who knows, I mean Alabama, 602 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: there might have been some like was this some foot 603 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: loose type of dancing in town? Like they're not doing 604 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: the hot potato? Are they? No? No boogie music done? 605 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: You have this weird feel I remember feeling this way 606 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: about Trump, Like in the run up to the election. 607 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: I just remember going, I think he's gonna win yeah, 608 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: And everyone was like, you're insane, there's no way. Look 609 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: at the polls and you're like, I don't know, man, 610 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: I look at those rallies and stuff. You're just like, 611 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win. Yeah. I mean the polls 612 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 1: and the immediate aftermath were I think he was down. 613 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: He was down twelve. I think it's not close to 614 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: eight or something. No, then it went to eight. Now 615 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: it's tied. Now they're neck and necking. Interesting, so hey, 616 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: he's probably the way it's trending. They say that Usually 617 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: it's uh, you won't see the immediate drop off right 618 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: after scandal because like Republicans won't respond to the polls 619 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. But this time it's just there was 620 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: an immediate drop and then he bounced right back, probably 621 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: because he was able to get his message out there 622 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: that this is all uh uh left wing conspiracy. Yeah, 623 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: so we're always cooking up those conspiracies. So the left 624 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: wing ability to go back and get that mall to 625 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: ban him back in the early eighties was I mean, 626 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: that could be the next logical jump people used for 627 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: these conspiracy Like, well, they're clearly time traveling to uh 628 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: create these these scandals after the fact. If the left 629 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: has a time machine and this is what they're doing, 630 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: that's a bigger crime than anything we've talked about so far. 631 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, low stakes time traveling. Alright, Well, 632 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: it's a time machine that only goes to Alabama in 633 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: the seventies, So good news, we do we had a 634 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: bad time travel Bad news. It's only a very specific 635 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: time and place we can go. It goes back to 636 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: early eighties Alabama. All Right, we're gonna take a quick 637 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: break and when we come back, Uh, we're gonna talk 638 00:38:52,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: about Black Friday and Thanksgiving and we're back. So I 639 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: wanted to take on a uh one of the great 640 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: cultural influencers of our time, Andy Rooney. Um he and 641 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: Andy Rooney is uh so he was a He was 642 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: basically the opinion columnist for the TV show sixty Minutes. Uh. 643 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: Sixty minutes is a what's called a news magazine on 644 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: CBS that, Uh, I don't know how young our audience is, 645 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: but uh, great show. And Andy Rooney would come on 646 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: at the end of these great shows that broke all 647 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: these huge stories and be like, I don't like toothbrushes 648 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: there they annoy me. Doesn't mean like an office it 649 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: looks like he's hoarding. Yes, he's in an office that 650 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: has like books all over the shelves, but then it 651 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: also has like a huge stack of news, like old 652 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: newspapers on it that makes it look yeah, like he 653 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: is you know, he was a crew mudgeon. He was 654 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: just was a crank and a crew mudgeon. He was 655 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: a the cartoon definition of curmudgeon. Um So, anyways, uh 656 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: sixty minutes because it is there something anniversary I think 657 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: like thirty five or something. UH is taking a look 658 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: back at old Andy Rooney segments for some reason, that's 659 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: what they're choosing to do. UH. And so this past 660 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: week sixty minutes they looked back at Andy Rooney's hot 661 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: take on the commercialization of Thanksgiving. UH. At one point 662 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: he was like, these holiday manners come falling out of magazines, 663 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: like confetti. Holiday is the new religiously correct word for Christmas. 664 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: So he was like presaging the war on Christmas, Yeah, 665 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: ahead of the birth, because this is all the way 666 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight. Somewhere Bill O'Reilly was 667 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: watching that and like writing an immediate direction, and that's 668 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: how he knew he had hit on paydirt. But then 669 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: he also comes out hard against people whose only interest 670 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: is money moving in on a nice, non commercial holiday 671 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving, because his main argument is that people are 672 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: moving Christmas decorations and things further and further forward, and 673 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Christmas is this like commercial holiday and they're only in 674 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: it for the money. And Thanksgiving has always been this 675 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: pure holiday where we give thanks to our pilgrim forebears 676 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: um for giving, you know, influenza soaked blankets, and um, 677 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: they do that. I just read a book about the Pilgrims. 678 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: They weren't really bad, you guys, I know, but they 679 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: were pretty good. They were pretty cool. In terms of 680 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: all the all the white people came to the New World, 681 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: they were among the cool lit They were definitely the 682 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: least awful. You know what, Um what what's the name 683 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: of the book called Mayflower? It's pretty good. Yeah, it 684 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: was very I was like, oh, does it talk about 685 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: the fact that like ninety five percent of the Massachusetts 686 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: Bay Indians had been wiped out like in the like 687 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: that they showed up at a post apocalyptic version of 688 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: Massachusetts Bay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that that's crazy. That like 689 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: the fact that that that detail was left out like 690 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: that what well. I was going to talk about this 691 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: on tomorrow's episode. But basically, when the Pilgrims showed up, 692 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: of the Massachusetts Bay Indians had just been wiped out 693 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: by the smallpox plague, so like before they arrived. So 694 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: that's why the pillar like Columbus came in and then 695 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: there was like this big, you know, gap before the 696 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: Pilgrims came to settle it. The reason was because the 697 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: New World was densely popul related by Native Americans, who 698 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: would have like kicked any settlers asses if they tried 699 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: to settle it. But then there was a literal apocalypse, 700 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: like the plague that swept through is like way bigger 701 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: than the Black Death that like we know about from Europe, like, 702 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: and it just basically the plague acted as a lead 703 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: blocker for all the open right, so they just basically 704 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: moved into these towns that had been built and settled 705 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: by Native Americans and like just had the easiest time 706 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: in the world. They like moved into They were like 707 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: sleeping in their homes and like using their bowls and stuff. 708 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: But they were just like God's providence is great, isn't it, 709 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Brothers and sisters. But anyways, we're gonna talk more about 710 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: that on tomorrow's episode. But uh, just my my quibble 711 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: with Andy Rooney's thing is that Thanksgiving is actually the 712 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: day is determined by basically when retailers want Black Friday 713 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: to be. So I think I always thought of Black 714 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: Friday as like the day after Thanksgiving. It was just 715 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: like an accident that that happened to be a shopping day, 716 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: but they determined the day of Thanksgiving because based on 717 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: how long retailers wanted the Christmas shopping period to be. 718 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: Back in the thirties, Thanksgiving was the last Thursday in 719 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: November and then because that would have been like too 720 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: too short a shopping period. One year, because it was 721 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: like a fifth Thursday, there was a fifth Thursday in November. 722 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: It was like all the way at the end, they 723 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: just moved it up to the second to last Thursday 724 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: in November to make more room for shopping. Like this year, right, 725 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: it would be there's five Thursdays in November, right, exactly. 726 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: That's why I feel like Thanksgiving snuck up on me 727 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: this year, like it's already Thanksgiving. Yeah, so um. Thanksgiving 728 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: is always and has always been about like starting the 729 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping period. I feel like already this week or 730 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: even like even last week, you started seeing those Lexus 731 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: commercials where these impossibly happy families or somehow got a 732 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 1: new Lexus in the driveway with the bow on top, 733 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like that's already starting up. I actually had 734 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: like like a visceral reaction. I was like no, no, no, no, no, no, like, 735 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: don't drag me into this quite yet. I'm not ready 736 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: to go into Christmas quite yet, and I think that 737 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: there's something to say about like the marketing of it 738 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: happening to some. But I don't care. If you like, yeah, sure, 739 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is done and dusted. You want to start getting 740 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: in the Christs period, that's totally your prerogative, but don't 741 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: attack me with your ads so quickly. That's all I see. 742 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm I'm on the complete other side 743 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: of that because I believe that I'm a better person 744 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: at Christmas. I'm very much. And it's immediately followed by 745 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: like getting all my tax stuff in the mail, when 746 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: I become very stingy and Republican for a little while, 747 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I'm not I don't 748 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: want to pay taxes, like oh look how much money 749 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: I have to give away? So I, you know, so 750 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: that the sooner you can get me in that generous 751 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of uh, that generous Christmas spirit, the better. And 752 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: I have those ads help me get They're not really 753 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: those Lexus ones. Mostly I just think about if that's 754 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: ever actually happened when I see those, if anyone's ever 755 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: gotten Alexis, put a giant bow on and get you 756 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: guys talk Listen to you guys talk. It's almost like 757 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: you don't buy other people lexus is for Christmas or 758 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's given to you. That's some one per 759 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: center ship right there. Like I will never know Christmas 760 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: were like a fucking luxury automobile, just like chilling out 761 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: there like surprise. I've bought a car before, and it's 762 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: like a real hassle. There's a lot of paperwork and 763 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I just I just can't imagine getting 764 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: that done and getting it in the driveway and everything 765 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: Christmas morning, and then how do you hide it. It's 766 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: not like we buy something puppy or you could do SI, 767 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you gotta hide brand 768 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: in a dark box for weeks at a time, holes in, 769 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: just like a puppy. I I don't wonder though, you 770 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: know what, Maybe I'll go to Alexis dealership this week 771 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, if I buy Alexis, do you 772 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: give me the bow? Because if they don't, that's an 773 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: absolute slap in the face. Then it should come with 774 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: the bow. That would be an interesting lawsuit. Yeah, I 775 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: was led to believe there would be a bow. I'm 776 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: pretty sure I do give away giant bos damn it. 777 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 1: I mean, all right, well let's go a deep dive 778 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: all investigative journalism coming out Streeter, thanks so much for 779 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: joining us. Man, this was a lot of fun. Thanks 780 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: for having me, because what do you what do you 781 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: have to plug? Oh? Man, well, I get I mean, 782 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: I guess SNL watch SNL. You're called this is Saturday 783 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: Night Live. Yeah, it's Saturday Night Live and it's on 784 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: live on Saturday Night on on NBC the National and 785 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: that's the National Broadcasting Corporation or check Company or I'm 786 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: not sure it's one of the two. The peacock Baby 787 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: read the trades. Uh? And where where can people follow 788 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: you on on social media? Um? You can get me 789 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter street side L. I can't believe I couldn't 790 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: get street or SIDEEL, but there you go. So it's 791 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: street side L on Twitter. Awesome. Miles Where can people 792 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: follow you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram 793 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: at Miles of Great. You can follow me at Jack 794 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily 795 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist on Twitter at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We 796 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: have a Facebook fan page that is the Daily Zeitgeist 797 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: and you can check out our website Daily zeitgeist dot com, 798 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: where we post the episodes and we also post links 799 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: to every source for everything we talked about, which we 800 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: call the footnote. Uh. And that's gonna do it for today. 801 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: We will be back for one more episode on this 802 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: shortened holiday week tomorrow, so we will talk to you 803 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: then by