WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 5 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:07.720 It is Thursday happy Sinco de Mayo. This is check 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:12.559 Bars Happy Hour. And now a woman who's willing could 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.360 be a sideline reporter at your football game or wedding 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.400 or birthday or Raymond Hearing ashlyns some of them. Is 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.279 it so bad that I work hard and ask for 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.840 opportunities and everyone wants to give me crap about it? 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.720 Thank you, Jeff. It's gonna give me somewhere someday. Look, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.600 the more reps you can get, schlenn than you're a 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.440 perfect example of take every opportunity you can get, even weddings. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.440 So yes, you can call me. Thank you, Joe. Welcome 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.280 to hearing in there too, like give me a break. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:46.920 That might be one of your best job. I gotta 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.800 say that good. Yeah, that was good? All right, high praise. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.080 Don't give him any more, ammo. He loves this, especially 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.440 when I'm hosting. He says, it brings me a humble 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.280 That's good. It's good. He loves to bring me down, 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.160 you know, I mean. Welcome to Jaguars Happy Our Atten 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.200 ten Xcel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. J P Shotter 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.040 coming to say all of these things. That happy hour 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.360 is on JP is on a very much well earned vacation. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.040 He has earned it. After draft coverage and Jeff, we 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.800 had a lot to talk about today we do. It 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.520 was what one week ago today that the draft was 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.240 kicked off and Travon Walker was the first overall pick 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.480 of the draft. So at uh an exciting. Always the 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.759 draft always represents hope and uh and for a franchise 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.120 that has had difficulty, as this franchise has it, this 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.039 is the time of year that you like to have 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.080 hope restored because you have all these prospects coming in 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.440 and that's the beauty of the draft. For years, it 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.840 was the only thing that teams had to look forward 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.560 to to improving with. I mean, can you imagine that 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.000 not having free agency? Like back in the day, there 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.120 used to be no free agency, and so the draft 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.880 represented the only hope at getting better. Yeah, the Jaguars 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.680 certainly need free agency, especially on the offensive side of 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.240 the ball. That leads us to what's coming up on 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.000 Jaguars Happy Hour. It's a draft recap. Five out of 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.960 seven draft picks. On the defensive sides, we'll talk all 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.639 about that and what this defense is gonna look like. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.320 Moving over to offense, Cam Robinson got a contract extension 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.560 this week. What does that mean for the offensive line 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.639 and how good do we feel about it? Outside linebacker 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.120 coach Bill Showey will be joining us here in the 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.160 studio in a matter of minutes. Going to talk to 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.000 him a lot about that number one overall pick Trayvon Walker. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.560 That's for sure breaking news again this week, the Denver 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.720 Broncos and the Jacksonville Jaguars will be playing in London 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.840 Halloween weekend the season. Very cool matchup between Russell Wilson 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.919 and Trevor Lawrence. And finally we go around the NFL 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.160 and let's go back to recapping the NFL draft. Five 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.720 out of seven players drafted on defense, like we said, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.919 and very happy Mike Codwell this week, that's for sure. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.280 Defensive coordinator and coach Peterson said, Yeah, this three four, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.960 it's going to be fun to scheme against. When I 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.960 scheme defense, you know, the three four becomes a little 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.120 bit of a challenge to to go up against. It 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.280 becomes a little harder to run the football, it becomes 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.760 some protection issues. And then so for me, that's as 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.720 the head coach, that's what I want on defense. I 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.160 want complexity, I want complexity, but at the same time, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.240 it's simple for the players to learn if if that 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.480 makes sense UM, and so I wanted I wanted that 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.760 for our defense and guys that Um have had success. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.760 I mean, he just came off of a World championship 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.000 in Tampa and he's he's seen it at a high level. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.080 He's worked under some really good coordinators, Todd Bowles, Jim Johnson, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.560 he played for a Jim, the late Jim Johnson and 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.800 and guys like that. So you know, for me, it 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.600 was an easy, an easy plug and play with Mike 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.760 to come in and start that process. I was head 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.400 coach Doug Peterson on this defense and what will look 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.280 like as they start to scheme now that they have 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.880 the personnel set in place. Five editions on the draft 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.200 on defense, Mike call Well was a gidey man going 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.400 down the hallway as he should be. Well, I think 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.280 it's interesting and that Uh, sometimes I think we all 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.680 can get a little ahead of it sometimes, so sometimes 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.360 you gotta kind of slow down and say, Okay, what 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.320 can they do? Because they did add a lot of 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.600 different pieces in the draft with Travon Walker and Devin Lloyd, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.840 Chad Movement and those three guys on defense out of 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.760 the first four picks that they had, and these guys 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:26.080 are expected to be starters and some capacity uh Luke, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:31.080 Fortner and uh Connor on offense, expected to be contributors 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.800 on offense maybe in some capacity. But but obviously when 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.080 you have three out of the top four picks on 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.040 the defensive side of the ball and you didn't expend 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.840 a ton of resources and free agency on that side 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.279 of the ball, this is where the improvement is expected from. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.760 And and coach Peterson talked about complexity and trying to 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.839 be multiple and do different things on defense, and that's great, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.400 and that's that's I think what you would like to 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.640 beat down the road, because at first you need to 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.440 do a couple of things. One, you need to install 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.560 a completely new defense so you you can't get overly complex. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.599 And then you need to find out, most importantly, what 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.800 these two players do best. And you're not going to 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.600 find that out. I mean, you've got a pretty good 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.719 idea from watching them on college film, but in a 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.800 lot of cases, once you get to the National Football 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.840 League level, because it's a different game, you actually have 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.719 to see them do it before you can trust it 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.480 as a coach before you say, okay, we can put 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.680 him in possession in position X to do X because 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.520 we've seen him do that. And so that's I think 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.240 gonna take some time. And with young players, sometimes you 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.440 get there, sometimes you don't. And so I think it's 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.320 gonna be an interesting process because it's always a process 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.920 when you're talking about the young players being inserted into 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.040 the lineup. Yeah, and a plan is great, but we 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.200 always hear, hey, we have to execute that plan, and 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.719 we'll ask Bill should we this outside linebackers coach, But 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.640 all the talk is, Okay, Trayvon Walker's over stile, that's 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.840 so great in college, but now you want to get 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.279 him good at one position, and everyone's asking, okay, well, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.920 what's that position going to be? Well? And it was 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:13.559 interesting to me watching all the pressers after the pick 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.680 and then the press conference when Trayvon Walker was introduced 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.960 to Jacksonville and you had Trent Balky and Doug Peterson 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.200 up there at the at the podium with him, and 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.400 so you're you're listening, you're trying to to to search 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.640 for keywords of what they say. You know, is he 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.440 gonna be in a two point stands? He's he gonna 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.240 have his hand in the ground. He's gonna be a 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.520 defensive end, he's gonna be an outside linebacker. And it 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.560 was interesting in that I thought that I heard Trent say, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.880 you know, two point stance, okay, And then I've heard 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.760 travon Walker asked about what he thinks he does best 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.000 and he said five technique okay, Well five techniques in 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.760 a three point stance and that's not a two point stand. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.159 So I think it's gonna be interesting to see where 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.280 home is gonna be for him. I think he can 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.279 be very good at a lot of different positions and 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.960 is he a A lot of people say, well, why 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.840 do you want somebody who may take time to develop? Well, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.600 the reality is is that you're looking and projecting a 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.800 player no matter what you do, whether the player is 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.360 considered safe or not, You're you're projecting everything. You're you're 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.280 trying to figure out where he's gonna be and what 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.240 he can be. And with Walker, I don't think it's 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.360 any different now. Early on, I think you're gonna want 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.480 to make sure that you get him comfortable in one position, 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.160 and then once he gets comfortable in one position, then 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.080 then you say, okay, let's open up some more things 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.720 for him to do because we know that he can 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.840 do it because he did it at Georgia, right, And 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.320 everyone's saying, do you feel as though, like, yes, he 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.440 can do all of these things, but say he we 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.520 tryhimout that one position, he's really good at it. Do 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.640 you sleep him there and don't bother with it? Well 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.560 you can, But I mean, first of all, the one 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.200 thing I will say Achelon about the picks, and especially 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:56.440 Travon Walker and and Lloyd, these two guys are our 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.800 top end individuals. There's no arguing that. That's not a debate. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.920 We can debate where they should have been picked and 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.000 how good they're gonna be and how good they were 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.040 at their prospective colleges, but the reality is these are 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.480 a plus people and so you always have a chance 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.440 when you have a plus people. And that's the most 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.280 important thing. Good families, good background, and now that you 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.320 bring somebody in, okay, let's get them comfortable. And then 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.840 the more hard working, the more dedicated they are, the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.680 better the person is. I think the more complexities or 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.680 the more things you can ask them to do because 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.960 they're dedicated to their craft, and I think that's something 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.960 that's been a little bit different than we've seen here 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.760 in the past. And I'm not trying to be a jerk, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.800 so I mean under previous years we have seen some 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.880 players that have come in here that have probably not 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.400 been properly vetted. And when you're picking somebody with of 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.319 that magnitude when I say the magnitude, when you're picking 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.560 somebody high, you want to make sure that they're a 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.680 number number one quality people first and and and I 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.600 think that Trent Balky put a premium Doug Peterson put 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.319 a premium on this in this draft because from everything 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.480 that I have read, everything that I have heard, these 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.920 are top end individuals. Yes, we had them in the 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.920 building Friday and Saturday, and they were fantastic, so easy 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.120 to work with. Their families were great. See that's always 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.800 and they're always great because they're so excited. But you 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.480 definitely can sense what a person is like that first 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.520 day and they were both so awesome. And you mentioned 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.480 Devin Lloyd. Trent Bulky on Sirius XM Radio explained why 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.720 they traded up to get that. Devin Lloyd was way 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.960 up on our board. We felt he was one of 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:41.120 the top fifteen players in the draft, and you know, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.840 we were having a little bit of trouble getting back in, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.240 but I can't remember. I think at twenty three's when 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.520 we decided. Actually was twenty two, I believe we when 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.840 quay Walker went off the board, we just didn't feel 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.720 that Devin was going to make it the thirty three 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.160 and we fell to we needed to get back in. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.120 If if we didn't get back in, we're gonna have 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.160 to go another direction. Really didn't want to go another direction. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.000 To did what we could to get up in there. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.760 Trent Back he told us in his post draft presser 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.280 that they were a little worried about the New England 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.640 Patriots with the twenty one pick, and once Lloyd got 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.080 past that, all it took was just looking at Doug 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.040 Peterson and Doug said, yeah, let's do it. I love 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.960 what you bring up the Patriots. And then what did 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.600 the Patriots do? They drafted a guard from some small 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.520 school and everything. What did they do? That's why let's 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.640 go hurry up? Yeah. So so I look, I really 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.600 like the selection of Lloyd. When you watch the film 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.280 on him, he can do anything that any linebacker can do. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:48.000 He can be a run stuffer, he can be an 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:53.280 athletic blitzer. He can cover, he can run sideline the sideline. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.920 He's got great energy, and I think the best thing 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.680 that I like about him is his leadership. When you 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.280 listen to him talk, you just listen and you you 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.719 kind of gravitate towards him. And those are the kind 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.600 of people that you want. Those are the kind of 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.760 people that you want in front of the huddle, which 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.520 linebackers are in front of the huddle. So from that 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.080 aspect and what he meant to the the program of 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.439 Utah this past year with some of the things that 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.080 went through, uh, it is pretty amazing. And so kudos 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.280 to him as an individual and looking forward to him 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.680 be a leader. Yes, another one that seems like a 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.160 really just great person overall. For sure, you gotta have 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.520 character counts, and when you're trying to to change a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.320 culture so to speak, and we've heard that term a lot, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.079 it takes people of strong character to change culture. And 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.000 so I think with the first two picks, they've hit 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.360 hit it right home. Totally agree. Home runs coming up 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.680 on Jaguars Happy Our outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey joins 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.320 the program. Stay with us here on the Jaguars Digital Network, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.600 A live look at the new football facility. Is crazy, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.000 How my this has changed even in a week. I 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.440 swear I leave the building every day and something else 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.840 is going up. This is moving really quickly, and everyone 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.199 is excited, especially coaches, and especially this coach. Outside linebacker 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.199 coach Bill Shoey joins us now on Jaguars Happy Hour 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.120 on ten ten, exelling Jaguars dot Com coach, thanks for 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.600 joining us, Thanks for having yeah, and that football facility. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.640 We're excited about that, right, we are. We're very excited 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.079 about the football facility that You're right. The progress is 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.400 happening fast and never fast enough, but we're we are exciting. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.360 It's good to see, uh, good to see the guys 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.439 out there working. So you talk about exciting times, Uh 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.920 come in, you're a new coach in Jacksonville and you 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.079 get a couple of picks that are pretty high in 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.760 the draft. That's got to be pretty exciting. Yeah, it's 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.400 very exciting, must be living, right, you know, But yeah, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.719 we're excited, uh excited to having new new guys come in. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:50.840 You know. Obviously you've got a couple of weeks here 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.079 until they can come in. So but we're looking forward 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.719 to that here in a few weeks, get them on 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.280 the field and get them acclimated with the team. I 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.440 think one of the question that I've gotten asked the 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:06.280 most since the draft has happened is, Jeff, where do 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.280 you see Travon Walker lining up at? And And my 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.840 honest answer is I don't know. And that's my question 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.000 to you, is where do you see him lining up? 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.120 I mean, you've got two first round picks. One of 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.360 them was a linebacker, the other one played so many 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.600 different positions. That seems to be the question of the 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:27.000 last week. Am I allowed to answer. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.040 But as he mentioned, I think he mentioned it that 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.720 you know, we're gonna try to let him settle into 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.559 one spot and then from there. Obviously, the versatility is important. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.640 It's part of the reason why we drafted him, and 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.760 we're gonna try to utilize that to our advantage at 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.840 some point in time. But you know, early on, we 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.040 wanted him to be able to get comfortable and and 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.560 get in one spot and he'll start it outside linebacker 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.400 and then we'll move from there. And Uh, Coach Carl Wells, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.760 you know, he's he's got a lot of plans as 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.160 we move forward, but you know, out of the gate, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.559 he'll he'll be an outside linebacker. Is very excited about 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.040 this draft. I talked to him, he was like it. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.360 He talking about the five picks he got and you 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.720 mentioned that outside linebacker. So say, Trayvon Walker kills it 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.960 and he's really good an outside linebacker. Is that it 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.280 does he stay there and that versatility we might not 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.439 see all of it. No, I think at some point 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.840 in time. Again, I don't want to speak from Mike, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.000 but at some point in time I I would guess 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.320 that we're going to use every ounce of versatility that 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.760 he has. I mean, but but it's all going to 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.440 be in due time, and part of that's gonna be 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.280 on him. The faster he gets acclomated, the more we 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.320 can kind of spread things out for him and and 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.119 put him in matchup situations that might be to his advantage. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.800 Until then, it's gonna come down to the mental grind 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.600 of the game and of the position and learning the 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.760 fundamentals of playing on the edge on a on a 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.320 regular basis. And you know, as as soon as he 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.160 can get up to speed on that, the more we 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.240 can kind of utilize his versatility. The draft process is 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.680 so much more involved than what it was twenty years ago, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.640 to where you have combine interviews, you have players coming 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.880 into your building to talk to them. And I'm sure 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.000 that you guys took advantage with both of these opportunities 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.920 with your two first round picks, because when you sit 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.800 there and you look at what I was talking about 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.480 before we went to a break, before you came on 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.400 about character counts and these two guys, these seem to 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.200 be two individuals that I'm sure you're looking very much 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.920 forward having the ability to coach. Yeah. So, uh, they're 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.080 very you know the guy from what I can what 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.200 I know about Devon, which I don't know him as well, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.240 because coach Gilbert he'll you know, he'll he's got versatility 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.240 as well, and that's gonna be a key. We have 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.320 a bunch of guys on this defense, not just that, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.840 not just the two young guys. You know, you think 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.880 about Smooth, you think about Art and Key amongst others. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.160 But the versatility is going to be interesting for a 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.640 coach callwell, how he's gonna move guys around and make 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.520 it hard for offenses to try to I D people 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.080 and and know who might be coming, who might not 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.640 be coming in pressure situations and those type of things. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.280 But from Treyvon standpoint, you know, the character was an 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.960 important thing, you know, but there was this this draft 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.960 was loaded in the edge position. The guys I talked 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.760 to there were a lot out of really good character guys. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.960 I mean, that was something. It was. That's part of 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.680 what I enjoy about making the trip to Indian talking 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.440 with the guys. You get to know a bunch of 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.400 a bunch of the players. You go to pro days 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.360 and and you you kind of you get a relationship 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.280 started with some guys and then and then at that 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.560 point it may stop and you might just see him 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.080 before the game or after a game, or what it 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.560 might be. In other cases, I trave on and he 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.000 gets drafted here and now I get to you know, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.960 get allow that relationship to grow deeper in the trust part, 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:29.680 but you want to get started with that as soon 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.120 as possible. And he seems like a very high character guy, 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:39.560 humble guy um confident though, humble but confident, and and 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.280 and a guy that it seems really willing and eager 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.840 to get to work. That's a very good balance humble 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:50.080 and confident, not arrogant, right, exactly exactly. You mentioned the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.200 combine and it was interesting General manager Trent balky Kemp 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.600 mentioning it in his post scape or his press conference, 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.400 is how the coaches were so involved in this pre 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.600 draft process. So how were you involved beside the combine 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.480 and all of this? Yeah, they Yeah, I believe he 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.280 used the word transparent a lot as well, you know, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.600 and and the process. You had a lot of people 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.440 involved in the process, and so, uh, you know, I've 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.919 been I've been coaching for a long time, and you know, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.760 I've been blessed to have many years in the NFL. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.760 This is my third NFL team, and this this was 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.680 a very transparent process, and you know it was there 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.360 were many meetings, many conversations, and so you know, I 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.520 I felt involved in the process, and you know I didn't. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.840 It doesn't mean that decisions are always easy, but it 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.000 was good to see everybody kind of come together on 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.919 on on their thoughts. Didn't mean that it was always 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.440 you know, there was It's good when you have a 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.240 healthy debates sometimes, but then as the as the process 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.440 goes on, it's good when everybody you have healthy debates 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.600 and then everybody gets on the same page. And I 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.440 thought that was good with the procedure here and Trent 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.879 led that off with with Doug and and Mike, and 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:53.679 you know, I thought it was very it was a 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.480 very good process. There's so many different pieces that that 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.239 make a puzzle, and what we're talking about here is 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.760 the new pieces. But there's some pieces that are already here. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.160 And you've had the opportunity to talk and to work 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.720 with some of these guys already. What are some of 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.119 the impressions that have been made upon you with the 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.919 guys that are here. The guys that are here are 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.560 very eager to get going, you can tell. You know, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.399 it's been a couple of rough seasons down here and 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.400 and and it's it's not something that's kind of swept 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.439 under the rug like it's out in the open. Guys 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.240 talk about it. They're using it I think as fuel, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.120 as motivation. They're open to new ideas. I think they 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.960 also understand, like one of the things we try to 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.760 get accomplished in the outside back room is we I'm 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.320 looking for their ideas. I want their thoughts. I want 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.240 them to challenge some things. You know, trust has earned 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.680 over time, you know, trust is gonna be earned when 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.520 when when they're taught something and they get six they 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.960 success shows up on the field based off of those 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.439 techniques fundamental as a scheme, um. So that back and 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.439 forth that we have in the room, you know, these 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.320 are grown men. They're young men, but they're grown men. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.000 It's good to have that die log. You know. The 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.879 flip side of that is when you're talking a bunch, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.880 you know, sometimes the efficiency of the meetings go down 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.320 because you're back and forth a lot. So at the 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.359 end of the day, there's a chain of command. But 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.200 I think the dialogue is healthy. I think it's good 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.480 when they're talking because they're asking questions and and you 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.640 probably know, like the best defenses that I've ever been 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.040 around are the ones that are usually most vocal. And 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.320 how important was it for this pre draft process and 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.480 this this draft as a whole to get Josh Allen 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.159 some help. Yeah, well, you can never have enough or 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.360 too many good players. And uh, and I think that's 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.520 what's great, you know, from this draft adding a guy 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.280 like Trayvon we you know, we'll have an undrafted freeging 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.520 added to the room. And you already have talented guys 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.439 like Josh there, and Josh is working hard, Calevan is 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.600 working hard. You have Jordan's in there, and then Jamir 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.040