Speaker 1: It is Thursday happy Sinco de Mayo. This is check
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Speaker 1: perfect example of take every opportunity you can get, even weddings.
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Speaker 1: coming to say all of these things. That happy hour
Speaker 1: is on JP is on a very much well earned vacation.
Speaker 1: He has earned it. After draft coverage and Jeff, we
Speaker 1: had a lot to talk about today we do. It
Speaker 1: was what one week ago today that the draft was
Speaker 1: kicked off and Travon Walker was the first overall pick
Speaker 1: of the draft. So at uh an exciting. Always the
Speaker 1: draft always represents hope and uh and for a franchise
Speaker 1: that has had difficulty, as this franchise has it, this
Speaker 1: is the time of year that you like to have
Speaker 1: hope restored because you have all these prospects coming in
Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of the draft. For years, it
Speaker 1: was the only thing that teams had to look forward
Speaker 1: to to improving with. I mean, can you imagine that
Speaker 1: not having free agency? Like back in the day, there
Speaker 1: used to be no free agency, and so the draft
Speaker 1: represented the only hope at getting better. Yeah, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: certainly need free agency, especially on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. That leads us to what's coming up on
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. It's a draft recap. Five out of
Speaker 1: seven draft picks. On the defensive sides, we'll talk all
Speaker 1: about that and what this defense is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: Moving over to offense, Cam Robinson got a contract extension
Speaker 1: this week. What does that mean for the offensive line
Speaker 1: and how good do we feel about it? Outside linebacker
Speaker 1: coach Bill Showey will be joining us here in the
Speaker 1: studio in a matter of minutes. Going to talk to
Speaker 1: him a lot about that number one overall pick Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 1: That's for sure breaking news again this week, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos and the Jacksonville Jaguars will be playing in London
Speaker 1: Halloween weekend the season. Very cool matchup between Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. And finally we go around the NFL
Speaker 1: and let's go back to recapping the NFL draft. Five
Speaker 1: out of seven players drafted on defense, like we said,
Speaker 1: and very happy Mike Codwell this week, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator and coach Peterson said, Yeah, this three four,
Speaker 1: it's going to be fun to scheme against. When I
Speaker 1: scheme defense, you know, the three four becomes a little
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge to to go up against. It
Speaker 1: becomes a little harder to run the football, it becomes
Speaker 1: some protection issues. And then so for me, that's as
Speaker 1: the head coach, that's what I want on defense. I
Speaker 1: want complexity, I want complexity, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's simple for the players to learn if if that
Speaker 1: makes sense UM, and so I wanted I wanted that
Speaker 1: for our defense and guys that Um have had success.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just came off of a World championship
Speaker 1: in Tampa and he's he's seen it at a high level.
Speaker 1: He's worked under some really good coordinators, Todd Bowles, Jim Johnson,
Speaker 1: he played for a Jim, the late Jim Johnson and
Speaker 1: and guys like that. So you know, for me, it
Speaker 1: was an easy, an easy plug and play with Mike
Speaker 1: to come in and start that process. I was head
Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson on this defense and what will look
Speaker 1: like as they start to scheme now that they have
Speaker 1: the personnel set in place. Five editions on the draft
Speaker 1: on defense, Mike call Well was a gidey man going
Speaker 1: down the hallway as he should be. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting and that Uh, sometimes I think we all
Speaker 1: can get a little ahead of it sometimes, so sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of slow down and say, Okay, what
Speaker 1: can they do? Because they did add a lot of
Speaker 1: different pieces in the draft with Travon Walker and Devin Lloyd,
Speaker 1: Chad Movement and those three guys on defense out of
Speaker 1: the first four picks that they had, and these guys
Speaker 1: are expected to be starters and some capacity uh Luke,
Speaker 1: Fortner and uh Connor on offense, expected to be contributors
Speaker 1: on offense maybe in some capacity. But but obviously when
Speaker 1: you have three out of the top four picks on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball and you didn't expend
Speaker 1: a ton of resources and free agency on that side
Speaker 1: of the ball, this is where the improvement is expected from.
Speaker 1: And and coach Peterson talked about complexity and trying to
Speaker 1: be multiple and do different things on defense, and that's great,
Speaker 1: and that's that's I think what you would like to
Speaker 1: beat down the road, because at first you need to
Speaker 1: do a couple of things. One, you need to install
Speaker 1: a completely new defense so you you can't get overly complex.
Speaker 1: And then you need to find out, most importantly, what
Speaker 1: these two players do best. And you're not going to
Speaker 1: find that out. I mean, you've got a pretty good
Speaker 1: idea from watching them on college film, but in a
Speaker 1: lot of cases, once you get to the National Football
Speaker 1: League level, because it's a different game, you actually have
Speaker 1: to see them do it before you can trust it
Speaker 1: as a coach before you say, okay, we can put
Speaker 1: him in possession in position X to do X because
Speaker 1: we've seen him do that. And so that's I think
Speaker 1: gonna take some time. And with young players, sometimes you
Speaker 1: get there, sometimes you don't. And so I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting process because it's always a process
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the young players being inserted into
Speaker 1: the lineup. Yeah, and a plan is great, but we
Speaker 1: always hear, hey, we have to execute that plan, and
Speaker 1: we'll ask Bill should we this outside linebackers coach, But
Speaker 1: all the talk is, Okay, Trayvon Walker's over stile, that's
Speaker 1: so great in college, but now you want to get
Speaker 1: him good at one position, and everyone's asking, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what's that position going to be? Well? And it was
Speaker 1: interesting to me watching all the pressers after the pick
Speaker 1: and then the press conference when Trayvon Walker was introduced
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and you had Trent Balky and Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: up there at the at the podium with him, and
Speaker 1: so you're you're listening, you're trying to to to search
Speaker 1: for keywords of what they say. You know, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be in a two point stands? He's he gonna
Speaker 1: have his hand in the ground. He's gonna be a
Speaker 1: defensive end, he's gonna be an outside linebacker. And it
Speaker 1: was interesting in that I thought that I heard Trent say,
Speaker 1: you know, two point stance, okay, And then I've heard
Speaker 1: travon Walker asked about what he thinks he does best
Speaker 1: and he said five technique okay, Well five techniques in
Speaker 1: a three point stance and that's not a two point stand.
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be interesting to see where
Speaker 1: home is gonna be for him. I think he can
Speaker 1: be very good at a lot of different positions and
Speaker 1: is he a A lot of people say, well, why
Speaker 1: do you want somebody who may take time to develop? Well,
Speaker 1: the reality is is that you're looking and projecting a
Speaker 1: player no matter what you do, whether the player is
Speaker 1: considered safe or not, You're you're projecting everything. You're you're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where he's gonna be and what
Speaker 1: he can be. And with Walker, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: any different now. Early on, I think you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you get him comfortable in one position,
Speaker 1: and then once he gets comfortable in one position, then
Speaker 1: then you say, okay, let's open up some more things
Speaker 1: for him to do because we know that he can
Speaker 1: do it because he did it at Georgia, right, And
Speaker 1: everyone's saying, do you feel as though, like, yes, he
Speaker 1: can do all of these things, but say he we
Speaker 1: tryhimout that one position, he's really good at it. Do
Speaker 1: you sleep him there and don't bother with it? Well
Speaker 1: you can, But I mean, first of all, the one
Speaker 1: thing I will say Achelon about the picks, and especially
Speaker 1: Travon Walker and and Lloyd, these two guys are our
Speaker 1: top end individuals. There's no arguing that. That's not a debate.
Speaker 1: We can debate where they should have been picked and
Speaker 1: how good they're gonna be and how good they were
Speaker 1: at their prospective colleges, but the reality is these are
Speaker 1: a plus people and so you always have a chance
Speaker 1: when you have a plus people. And that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing. Good families, good background, and now that you
Speaker 1: bring somebody in, okay, let's get them comfortable. And then
Speaker 1: the more hard working, the more dedicated they are, the
Speaker 1: better the person is. I think the more complexities or
Speaker 1: the more things you can ask them to do because
Speaker 1: they're dedicated to their craft, and I think that's something
Speaker 1: that's been a little bit different than we've seen here
Speaker 1: in the past. And I'm not trying to be a jerk,
Speaker 1: so I mean under previous years we have seen some
Speaker 1: players that have come in here that have probably not
Speaker 1: been properly vetted. And when you're picking somebody with of
Speaker 1: that magnitude when I say the magnitude, when you're picking
Speaker 1: somebody high, you want to make sure that they're a
Speaker 1: number number one quality people first and and and I
Speaker 1: think that Trent Balky put a premium Doug Peterson put
Speaker 1: a premium on this in this draft because from everything
Speaker 1: that I have read, everything that I have heard, these
Speaker 1: are top end individuals. Yes, we had them in the
Speaker 1: building Friday and Saturday, and they were fantastic, so easy
Speaker 1: to work with. Their families were great. See that's always
Speaker 1: and they're always great because they're so excited. But you
Speaker 1: definitely can sense what a person is like that first
Speaker 1: day and they were both so awesome. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. Trent Bulky on Sirius XM Radio explained why
Speaker 1: they traded up to get that. Devin Lloyd was way
Speaker 1: up on our board. We felt he was one of
Speaker 1: the top fifteen players in the draft, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were having a little bit of trouble getting back in,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember. I think at twenty three's when
Speaker 1: we decided. Actually was twenty two, I believe we when
Speaker 1: quay Walker went off the board, we just didn't feel
Speaker 1: that Devin was going to make it the thirty three
Speaker 1: and we fell to we needed to get back in.
Speaker 1: If if we didn't get back in, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go another direction. Really didn't want to go another direction.
Speaker 1: To did what we could to get up in there.
Speaker 1: Trent Back he told us in his post draft presser
Speaker 1: that they were a little worried about the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots with the twenty one pick, and once Lloyd got
Speaker 1: past that, all it took was just looking at Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and Doug said, yeah, let's do it. I love
Speaker 1: what you bring up the Patriots. And then what did
Speaker 1: the Patriots do? They drafted a guard from some small
Speaker 1: school and everything. What did they do? That's why let's
Speaker 1: go hurry up? Yeah. So so I look, I really
Speaker 1: like the selection of Lloyd. When you watch the film
Speaker 1: on him, he can do anything that any linebacker can do.
Speaker 1: He can be a run stuffer, he can be an
Speaker 1: athletic blitzer. He can cover, he can run sideline the sideline.
Speaker 1: He's got great energy, and I think the best thing
Speaker 1: that I like about him is his leadership. When you
Speaker 1: listen to him talk, you just listen and you you
Speaker 1: kind of gravitate towards him. And those are the kind
Speaker 1: of people that you want. Those are the kind of
Speaker 1: people that you want in front of the huddle, which
Speaker 1: linebackers are in front of the huddle. So from that
Speaker 1: aspect and what he meant to the the program of
Speaker 1: Utah this past year with some of the things that
Speaker 1: went through, uh, it is pretty amazing. And so kudos
Speaker 1: to him as an individual and looking forward to him
Speaker 1: be a leader. Yes, another one that seems like a
Speaker 1: really just great person overall. For sure, you gotta have
Speaker 1: character counts, and when you're trying to to change a
Speaker 1: culture so to speak, and we've heard that term a lot,
Speaker 1: it takes people of strong character to change culture. And
Speaker 1: so I think with the first two picks, they've hit
Speaker 1: hit it right home. Totally agree. Home runs coming up
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy Our outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey joins
Speaker 1: the program. Stay with us here on the Jaguars Digital Network,
Speaker 1: A live look at the new football facility. Is crazy,
Speaker 1: How my this has changed even in a week. I
Speaker 1: swear I leave the building every day and something else
Speaker 1: is going up. This is moving really quickly, and everyone
Speaker 1: is excited, especially coaches, and especially this coach. Outside linebacker
Speaker 1: coach Bill Shoey joins us now on Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on ten ten, exelling Jaguars dot Com coach, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, Thanks for having yeah, and that football facility.
Speaker 1: We're excited about that, right, we are. We're very excited
Speaker 1: about the football facility that You're right. The progress is
Speaker 1: happening fast and never fast enough, but we're we are exciting.
Speaker 1: It's good to see, uh, good to see the guys
Speaker 1: out there working. So you talk about exciting times, Uh
Speaker 1: come in, you're a new coach in Jacksonville and you
Speaker 1: get a couple of picks that are pretty high in
Speaker 1: the draft. That's got to be pretty exciting. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very exciting, must be living, right, you know, But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're excited, uh excited to having new new guys come in.
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously you've got a couple of weeks here
Speaker 1: until they can come in. So but we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to that here in a few weeks, get them on
Speaker 1: the field and get them acclimated with the team. I
Speaker 1: think one of the question that I've gotten asked the
Speaker 1: most since the draft has happened is, Jeff, where do
Speaker 1: you see Travon Walker lining up at? And And my
Speaker 1: honest answer is I don't know. And that's my question
Speaker 1: to you, is where do you see him lining up?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got two first round picks. One of
Speaker 1: them was a linebacker, the other one played so many
Speaker 1: different positions. That seems to be the question of the
Speaker 1: last week. Am I allowed to answer. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But as he mentioned, I think he mentioned it that
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna try to let him settle into
Speaker 1: one spot and then from there. Obviously, the versatility is important.
Speaker 1: It's part of the reason why we drafted him, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to utilize that to our advantage at
Speaker 1: some point in time. But you know, early on, we
Speaker 1: wanted him to be able to get comfortable and and
Speaker 1: get in one spot and he'll start it outside linebacker
Speaker 1: and then we'll move from there. And Uh, Coach Carl Wells,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's got a lot of plans as
Speaker 1: we move forward, but you know, out of the gate,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be an outside linebacker. Is very excited about
Speaker 1: this draft. I talked to him, he was like it.
Speaker 1: He talking about the five picks he got and you
Speaker 1: mentioned that outside linebacker. So say, Trayvon Walker kills it
Speaker 1: and he's really good an outside linebacker. Is that it
Speaker 1: does he stay there and that versatility we might not
Speaker 1: see all of it. No, I think at some point
Speaker 1: in time. Again, I don't want to speak from Mike,
Speaker 1: but at some point in time I I would guess
Speaker 1: that we're going to use every ounce of versatility that
Speaker 1: he has. I mean, but but it's all going to
Speaker 1: be in due time, and part of that's gonna be
Speaker 1: on him. The faster he gets acclomated, the more we
Speaker 1: can kind of spread things out for him and and
Speaker 1: put him in matchup situations that might be to his advantage.
Speaker 1: Until then, it's gonna come down to the mental grind
Speaker 1: of the game and of the position and learning the
Speaker 1: fundamentals of playing on the edge on a on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. And you know, as as soon as he
Speaker 1: can get up to speed on that, the more we
Speaker 1: can kind of utilize his versatility. The draft process is
Speaker 1: so much more involved than what it was twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: to where you have combine interviews, you have players coming
Speaker 1: into your building to talk to them. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: that you guys took advantage with both of these opportunities
Speaker 1: with your two first round picks, because when you sit
Speaker 1: there and you look at what I was talking about
Speaker 1: before we went to a break, before you came on
Speaker 1: about character counts and these two guys, these seem to
Speaker 1: be two individuals that I'm sure you're looking very much
Speaker 1: forward having the ability to coach. Yeah. So, uh, they're
Speaker 1: very you know the guy from what I can what
Speaker 1: I know about Devon, which I don't know him as well,
Speaker 1: because coach Gilbert he'll you know, he'll he's got versatility
Speaker 1: as well, and that's gonna be a key. We have
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys on this defense, not just that,
Speaker 1: not just the two young guys. You know, you think
Speaker 1: about Smooth, you think about Art and Key amongst others.
Speaker 1: But the versatility is going to be interesting for a
Speaker 1: coach callwell, how he's gonna move guys around and make
Speaker 1: it hard for offenses to try to I D people
Speaker 1: and and know who might be coming, who might not
Speaker 1: be coming in pressure situations and those type of things.
Speaker 1: But from Treyvon standpoint, you know, the character was an
Speaker 1: important thing, you know, but there was this this draft
Speaker 1: was loaded in the edge position. The guys I talked
Speaker 1: to there were a lot out of really good character guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was something. It was. That's part of
Speaker 1: what I enjoy about making the trip to Indian talking
Speaker 1: with the guys. You get to know a bunch of
Speaker 1: a bunch of the players. You go to pro days
Speaker 1: and and you you kind of you get a relationship
Speaker 1: started with some guys and then and then at that
Speaker 1: point it may stop and you might just see him
Speaker 1: before the game or after a game, or what it
Speaker 1: might be. In other cases, I trave on and he
Speaker 1: gets drafted here and now I get to you know,
Speaker 1: get allow that relationship to grow deeper in the trust part,
Speaker 1: but you want to get started with that as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. And he seems like a very high character guy,
Speaker 1: humble guy um confident though, humble but confident, and and
Speaker 1: and a guy that it seems really willing and eager
Speaker 1: to get to work. That's a very good balance humble
Speaker 1: and confident, not arrogant, right, exactly exactly. You mentioned the
Speaker 1: combine and it was interesting General manager Trent balky Kemp
Speaker 1: mentioning it in his post scape or his press conference,
Speaker 1: is how the coaches were so involved in this pre
Speaker 1: draft process. So how were you involved beside the combine
Speaker 1: and all of this? Yeah, they Yeah, I believe he
Speaker 1: used the word transparent a lot as well, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the process. You had a lot of people
Speaker 1: involved in the process, and so, uh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been coaching for a long time, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to have many years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: This is my third NFL team, and this this was
Speaker 1: a very transparent process, and you know it was there
Speaker 1: were many meetings, many conversations, and so you know, I
Speaker 1: I felt involved in the process, and you know I didn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that decisions are always easy, but it
Speaker 1: was good to see everybody kind of come together on
Speaker 1: on on their thoughts. Didn't mean that it was always
Speaker 1: you know, there was It's good when you have a
Speaker 1: healthy debates sometimes, but then as the as the process
Speaker 1: goes on, it's good when everybody you have healthy debates
Speaker 1: and then everybody gets on the same page. And I
Speaker 1: thought that was good with the procedure here and Trent
Speaker 1: led that off with with Doug and and Mike, and
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was very it was a
Speaker 1: very good process. There's so many different pieces that that
Speaker 1: make a puzzle, and what we're talking about here is
Speaker 1: the new pieces. But there's some pieces that are already here.
Speaker 1: And you've had the opportunity to talk and to work
Speaker 1: with some of these guys already. What are some of
Speaker 1: the impressions that have been made upon you with the
Speaker 1: guys that are here. The guys that are here are
Speaker 1: very eager to get going, you can tell. You know,
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of rough seasons down here and
Speaker 1: and and it's it's not something that's kind of swept
Speaker 1: under the rug like it's out in the open. Guys
Speaker 1: talk about it. They're using it I think as fuel,
Speaker 1: as motivation. They're open to new ideas. I think they
Speaker 1: also understand, like one of the things we try to
Speaker 1: get accomplished in the outside back room is we I'm
Speaker 1: looking for their ideas. I want their thoughts. I want
Speaker 1: them to challenge some things. You know, trust has earned
Speaker 1: over time, you know, trust is gonna be earned when
Speaker 1: when when they're taught something and they get six they
Speaker 1: success shows up on the field based off of those
Speaker 1: techniques fundamental as a scheme, um. So that back and
Speaker 1: forth that we have in the room, you know, these
Speaker 1: are grown men. They're young men, but they're grown men.
Speaker 1: It's good to have that die log. You know. The
Speaker 1: flip side of that is when you're talking a bunch,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the efficiency of the meetings go down
Speaker 1: because you're back and forth a lot. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, there's a chain of command. But
Speaker 1: I think the dialogue is healthy. I think it's good
Speaker 1: when they're talking because they're asking questions and and you
Speaker 1: probably know, like the best defenses that I've ever been
Speaker 1: around are the ones that are usually most vocal. And
Speaker 1: how important was it for this pre draft process and
Speaker 1: this this draft as a whole to get Josh Allen
Speaker 1: some help. Yeah, well, you can never have enough or
Speaker 1: too many good players. And uh, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what's great, you know, from this draft adding a guy
Speaker 1: like Trayvon we you know, we'll have an undrafted freeging
Speaker 1: added to the room. And you already have talented guys
Speaker 1: like Josh there, and Josh is working hard, Calevan is
Speaker 1: working hard. You have Jordan's in there, and then Jamir
Speaker 1: in the outside back of room. We've had smooth moving around,
Speaker 1: a little bit alre and key moving around. You've got
Speaker 1: guys been moving around. So all that stuff is good.
Speaker 1: Um and and iron sharpens iron, and the more the
Speaker 1: more you can create competition within within your own building,
Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's IMPOSI position group, within the position group,
Speaker 1: from position group to position group, within the defense, in
Speaker 1: the offense and the defense. As long as everybody's moving
Speaker 1: in the same direction, I think it's a positive to
Speaker 1: talk about the relationship that you have with Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: There's a little familiarity going back a few years, isn't there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know it's I was a young intern when
Speaker 1: Doug was signed by Philadelphia, so I started on My
Speaker 1: first internship in Philly was in so um I intern
Speaker 1: Doug was was the quarterback there, which he probably doesn't
Speaker 1: remember me at that time, but I remember him coming
Speaker 1: in and then and then you know, I I I
Speaker 1: was afforded some opportunities. I worked hard, afforded some opportunities
Speaker 1: by coach read in Philadelphia to stay there for ten years.
Speaker 1: And through that. Through those ten years, I had a
Speaker 1: couple of different jobs and moved around and just continue
Speaker 1: to work work with some really really good coaches, learned
Speaker 1: a lot one of us Mike call Well um. But
Speaker 1: but Doug also was one of those coaches that came
Speaker 1: in after he retired when in you know, coaching, and
Speaker 1: then got in to the NFL, and so Doug was
Speaker 1: Doug was coaching on offense when I was coaching on
Speaker 1: defense there for a couple of years and we overlapped.
Speaker 1: It's funny, everyone says when when he first got hired,
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're gonna love this guy. He's such a
Speaker 1: good guy. But he he really is a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air in this building. And everyone says how relatable
Speaker 1: he isn't It's funny. I was walking down the hallway
Speaker 1: the other day and he's talking to Brandon Sheriff about
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, and it's just like he's just such a
Speaker 1: normal person who's just a really good football coach. It seems, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's great to be a good football coach.
Speaker 1: It's important to have good people around, and that's part
Speaker 1: of the culture, and that was part of the high
Speaker 1: character guys that we drafted. And you and you hear
Speaker 1: those themes and they just it's the world is around,
Speaker 1: and it's it's cyclical and and good people, good coaches,
Speaker 1: you know, good players, hopefully good results and and that's
Speaker 1: that's the thought process, with a lot of hard work
Speaker 1: in between and and some of that back and forth
Speaker 1: that we talked about too, you know, and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, iron sharpen's iron, But you've gotta be able
Speaker 1: to you gotta be able to stretch and pool and
Speaker 1: and grind and sweat and all that other stuff that
Speaker 1: you know goes into and a good football team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so iron sharpens iron. But boy, the weather certainly does
Speaker 1: make it feel a lot better when you're doing all
Speaker 1: of that. So last year you in Chicago right as
Speaker 1: a coach, and now you got your family down here
Speaker 1: in Florida and Jackson all they gotta be loving it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously the weather is great. And were the one thing
Speaker 1: Coach Towns and I, who were in Chicago last year
Speaker 1: as well as Chris Jackson was in was in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and Coach Towns and I were saying that the one
Speaker 1: thing we're not going to do this year. Is complained
Speaker 1: about the heat, so you can hold me too that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be I'm sure I know that's going to
Speaker 1: be the case. I know I'm naive by saying that,
Speaker 1: but but after being in Chicago, and I love Chicago
Speaker 1: is a great city and a great team. I love
Speaker 1: the players there and everything. But great restaurants, great food,
Speaker 1: just like Philadelphia by the way, and uh, you know everything.
Speaker 1: But we're looking forward. The family is looking forward to
Speaker 1: a fresh start. I'm looking forward to a fresh start.
Speaker 1: There's good people down here on the staff and so
Speaker 1: um you. We're excited, and the palm trees and the
Speaker 1: beach always helped to I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: about that heat thing again about August. That's okay, it's
Speaker 1: terrible times. We're gonna hate it. It It gets hot for
Speaker 1: a while. Once you get into September. You know, you're
Speaker 1: so used to that fall, that hint of fall. It
Speaker 1: ain't happening in September. About October, it's gonna happen, all right,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be together. Yes, we make it work somehow, Someway, coach,
Speaker 1: We thank you so much for joining us on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Slash tickets are called nine oh four six three three
Speaker 1: two thousand. The front offering. You know, the coaches kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to keep, you know, some of whose staples
Speaker 1: around just to kind of build around and kind of
Speaker 1: you know, start started to form that what we want
Speaker 1: to ultimately get done here so long. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's just a great thing that's keeping guys around,
Speaker 1: and we brought in kind of home grown um by Pharaoh,
Speaker 1: Josh Ship, whoever else we decided to keep around. Left
Speaker 1: tackle Cam Robinson a very happy guy this week, getting
Speaker 1: a contract extension very well and earned. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Are on ten ten Excel and Jaguars dot Com.
Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan and Jeff Logman here with you this week.
Speaker 1: JP Shatterck kind of much during vacation and Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: big news, Jeff. We saw this coming. It was a
Speaker 1: work in progress and we were wondering, Okay, what's taken
Speaker 1: to the long one? Is it gonna happen? Finally happened.
Speaker 1: You have your guy, your set, and now there's some
Speaker 1: key peace down the offensive line. You feel pretty good about. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were kind of curious
Speaker 1: as to what would happen with Cam and would that
Speaker 1: impact what the Jaguars do with that first overall pick
Speaker 1: and so um I said this a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: that the the starting point for Cam had to be
Speaker 1: the franchise number this year, plus what the expected increase
Speaker 1: was gonna be with franchise TAGA next year. That's kind
Speaker 1: of where you were starting that from a guaranteed money standpoint.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a fair deal for both sides.
Speaker 1: When I say that that, uh, many people were expecting
Speaker 1: the market to climb much higher for left tackles this offseason,
Speaker 1: but it really didn't. With the Armstead deal not being
Speaker 1: as lucrative. I think that that brought some of the
Speaker 1: reality down for the Cam Robinson contract. And I think
Speaker 1: it's a good contract for the team. And uh, it
Speaker 1: gives them stability as far as Okay, we know who
Speaker 1: are left tackle now is going to be and now
Speaker 1: we have two guys that are going to compete on
Speaker 1: the right side, and then we'll just figure out how
Speaker 1: things work out from there. So that's the way you
Speaker 1: wanted though them. You know, you keep hearing coaches, including
Speaker 1: Bill should We, who we just had in the seat
Speaker 1: right here, talk about iron Sharpen's iron, and that's when
Speaker 1: you get more competition in the room. It makes everybody better.
Speaker 1: And so bringing Cam back, even though many people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you just move on, you put Walker a little in
Speaker 1: the left tackle and go find it right tackle. Well,
Speaker 1: that's all easier said than done. Sometimes it's better to
Speaker 1: keep some of the components you got, continue to add
Speaker 1: to it, allow the competition to work it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was a point that Doug Peterson made to
Speaker 1: us at the combine, and he was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: get the narrative, and I get the narrative is the
Speaker 1: Jaguars at times don't keep good players. They train them
Speaker 1: away or they don't get to that second contract. And
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm trying to change that narrative. And
Speaker 1: he talked to us about Cam Robinson and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: at the combine. So you're kind of seeing this trend start,
Speaker 1: like they're recognizing talent and saying we got to keep
Speaker 1: it in this building. Well, and Cam still has to
Speaker 1: get better, and I mean this is not a I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a finished product. I think he can
Speaker 1: still get a lot better. I think his technique and
Speaker 1: some of his fundamentals need to get better. And I
Speaker 1: think his new offensive line coach is gonna be I
Speaker 1: think a big help to him, because coaching matters, and
Speaker 1: the more discipline, the fundum mentals and footwork become. To
Speaker 1: give you an example, Ashland years ago, when I was
Speaker 1: playing defensive end and was a young defensive end. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget going against an older Mike Ken of the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, and Mike was in your eighteen or whatever
Speaker 1: it was. I mean it was a lot of one eighteen,
Speaker 1: but it might have been. I mean it was long,
Speaker 1: you know, long tooth and uh. And I just remember
Speaker 1: looking at the physical abilities of Mike at that time
Speaker 1: saying I got him, Yeah, you know, I got him.
Speaker 1: But Mike was impeccable about every step that he took
Speaker 1: was so disciplined and so where it needed to be
Speaker 1: that his sets and his fundamentals cut off a lot
Speaker 1: of possibilities for you as a defensive player just because
Speaker 1: he was on point, not because he was big, fast, strong, tough,
Speaker 1: because his fundamentals were there. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: something that Cam needs to strive to get words. Because
Speaker 1: he has the athletic ability, he has the physical makeup,
Speaker 1: he's a good run blocker, he's tough as nails, but
Speaker 1: the fundamentals need to get better for him to take
Speaker 1: that next up. And I think he can take that
Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, I think they said that's when you know,
Speaker 1: that's why they franchise taged him as they saw potential
Speaker 1: and they saw he could get there. So it's definitely interesting.
Speaker 1: And then they draft Luke Fortner and it was funny.
Speaker 1: We had Tyler Shatley on Jaguary's Drive Time a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and Tyler Shatley, I go to the
Speaker 1: same gyms. We see each other all the time and
Speaker 1: every time I see me go to Ashland, you bench
Speaker 1: pressed with him and everything. Yeah, we've bench about the same,
Speaker 1: So we've really been training together. And he tells me
Speaker 1: at the gym. He's like, I'm training because what if
Speaker 1: a draft pick comes in, Luke Fortner comes right on,
Speaker 1: and so I'm really curious how that shakes out. I'm
Speaker 1: pulling from my gym buddy. But Luke Forwartner seems to
Speaker 1: have that upside too well. He's first team All SEC
Speaker 1: at the Powerhouse University of Kentucky, Okay teammates a former
Speaker 1: teammates with Josh Allen. The reality is is that he's
Speaker 1: a good football player. I think he's got to work
Speaker 1: on some things when it comes to getting to that
Speaker 1: second level. Some of that stuff is not as easy.
Speaker 1: But a good in line blocker and uh, I like him.
Speaker 1: He's got size, but he's got a lot to work on.
Speaker 1: And it's it's hard to overcome experience when you're a
Speaker 1: young player like that. And Tyler Shatley is a good
Speaker 1: football player. He is a good football player, and he
Speaker 1: has starting caliber abilities and uh, he's been around the block.
Speaker 1: He knows all the tricks of the trade. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Ashley, you're not bench pressing with him because
Speaker 1: one of the strongest guys that there is in the
Speaker 1: weight room he is he is ye know, he's one
Speaker 1: of the strongest guys. Now he's you know, he's a big,
Speaker 1: strong guy. So so I think it's gonna take a
Speaker 1: little time for partner. But again that's good for the room.
Speaker 1: Competition is good, make everybody better. Yeah, you mentioned competition,
Speaker 1: and this is the question I had for you. Um
Speaker 1: with Chad Muma and I was talking to him and
Speaker 1: he and he really it's the doubt how intelligent he
Speaker 1: is in his communication skills. And he brought up so
Speaker 1: many examples of when he wore the green dot in
Speaker 1: different situations. In my head when I'm talking to him
Speaker 1: like all right, that's your starter, that's that's your play collar.
Speaker 1: And then I was talking to John and Brian like
Speaker 1: not so fast. I don't know if he's starting right away.
Speaker 1: That's another position group where it's it's really interesting how
Speaker 1: this is going to shake out. Yeah, and just to
Speaker 1: explain the green dot because some people don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. In the NFL, a defensive player or an
Speaker 1: offensive player, if it has a player to coach communication
Speaker 1: set in the helmet, that's what the green dot signifies.
Speaker 1: So lets people know that this guy has that communication ability.
Speaker 1: And so green dot typically for on the defensive side,
Speaker 1: of the ball as a linebacker, and he's the guy
Speaker 1: that's calling plays in front of the huddle, so he's
Speaker 1: a leader and he can get people lined up. He
Speaker 1: can handle handle the added responsibility. And that's what Muma
Speaker 1: has been in college. He's been a very highly productive player.
Speaker 1: He's kind of a prototypical linebacker, shoulders square, uh, tough
Speaker 1: when he gets there. He knocks Pete back. I think
Speaker 1: that was the one thing that really stood out on
Speaker 1: film with him is that when he struck people, he's
Speaker 1: big and strong. Now when he's big and strong, he's
Speaker 1: knocking people back. But he's athletic. He can play multiple downs,
Speaker 1: I think in the National Football League. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a natural blitzer like a like a Lloyd is,
Speaker 1: but but I think he's he can be a three
Speaker 1: down linebacker. Where he plays at, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting as far as where a lou Khan is
Speaker 1: gonna be, where Lloyd's gonna be, where Mum is gonna be,
Speaker 1: because typically you got two inside positions, okay, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and in the outside guys who were talking Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and a smooth and a Travon Walker. So uh, I
Speaker 1: think It's gonna be interesting to see how they line up.
Speaker 1: It is it options are a great thing coition and
Speaker 1: and the other thing, look if if if he's not starting,
Speaker 1: they and he will be a significant backup and a
Speaker 1: contributor on special teams, which is a big part of
Speaker 1: winning to getting your special teams better. And what do
Speaker 1: you think of Snoop Connor? This was that's you know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that doesn't put it this way when
Speaker 1: he gets into the open field or he sees that
Speaker 1: you know, or you see him get in the open
Speaker 1: field what we perceive as the open field. And right
Speaker 1: there we just saw where he made a defender number
Speaker 1: eleven miss. He doesn't do that a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of times. He is just a power guy. And what
Speaker 1: I love most about watching him is that when you
Speaker 1: hand him the ball and you need a yard or two,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get you a yard or two. He and
Speaker 1: he's a very strong finisher at the goal line, very
Speaker 1: strong finisher in short yardage. And you have two running
Speaker 1: backs already in the room that are really good or
Speaker 1: expected to be good. Because et N still hasn't proven
Speaker 1: it at the National Football League level because he missed
Speaker 1: the entirety of his rookie year. We know j Rob
Speaker 1: can do it, but both of these guys are coming
Speaker 1: off significant injuries, So how is that going to affect
Speaker 1: them this year? So adding to that room I think
Speaker 1: was was gonna happen. I didn't know how it would
Speaker 1: happen what had happened as a draft pick or an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. But I'm glad they added to it.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of miles. Okay, mileage matters when it comes to running backs.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have a guy that that has
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on the odometer and hasn't had
Speaker 1: the old changes and all the upgrades throughout his existence.
Speaker 1: And he's getting to you like damage goods. This is
Speaker 1: a guy that was in a rotation and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be fresh and ready to go. Yeah, just like my car,
Speaker 1: Just like my jeep, I don't take it in for
Speaker 1: oil change. My dad gets so mad. He's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's been five thousand miles. You don't want
Speaker 1: that guy. No, you don't want that guy. And and uh,
Speaker 1: and he's a physical back, and and one thing you
Speaker 1: always look at a lot of these young players that
Speaker 1: come out of college and they come in the National
Speaker 1: Football League and you say, Okay, now they're playing with
Speaker 1: grown men. I'll never forget when I made the jump
Speaker 1: from college to pros, and the biggest thing that I
Speaker 1: noticed was we had some guys that were big physically
Speaker 1: in college at Virginia, and then you go to the
Speaker 1: locker room in the National Football League or any locker room,
Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god. I mean, like, the
Speaker 1: best of the best that you had in college are
Speaker 1: now everywhere in your locker room in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and so you expect guys to take some time to develop,
Speaker 1: continue to develop physically. Okay, this young man Connor is
Speaker 1: walking in the building and guys are gonna go, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Yeah physically, oh yeah, he's great
Speaker 1: to hear. He's ready to go. Exciting draft five at
Speaker 1: a set in defense, but some key contributions on offense
Speaker 1: as well. When we come back on Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: around the NFL, lots to talk about a lot of
Speaker 1: drama going on this week, we'll be back. One of
Speaker 1: one of my first UM meetings really was with with
Speaker 1: our our London team and and meeting meeting all the
Speaker 1: all the folks that are involved with the trip, and
Speaker 1: so we we have our our plan in place and
Speaker 1: and we're we're ready for you know, for for the
Speaker 1: trip and obviously the game October. And so you know,
Speaker 1: it's something you do have to spend some time and
Speaker 1: thinking about the travel and getting all your guys and
Speaker 1: gear and equipment and the technology over there, um, you know,
Speaker 1: as an organization, and and you gotta do it early.
Speaker 1: And so we've done that with our plan in place,
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of waiting on the week to
Speaker 1: get here. Hey, Coach Doug Peterson discussing the big news
Speaker 1: this week. The Jaguars will play the Broncos in London
Speaker 1: this season coming up October thirty, Halloween weekend in London.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour ont t Excelling,
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, Ashland Sullivan and Jeff Logerman here with
Speaker 1: you this week. This is gonna be a really cool game.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson versus Trevor Lawrence talk about an incredible competition
Speaker 1: for Trevor. Well, first of all, Trevor had great success
Speaker 1: there last year, big win and beat the Miami dofense
Speaker 1: and the first rookie to ever win over in London.
Speaker 1: So I think that this is a football team in
Speaker 1: the Jaguars that organizationally has the experience of going over there.
Speaker 1: That helps a lot for for the Denver Broncos. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a little new because I think this
Speaker 1: is the first I think that this year, after the
Speaker 1: completion of this year, with all the games that will
Speaker 1: be over in Europe, that every team in the league
Speaker 1: will have been to Europe. That's at some point after
Speaker 1: this year and the first game of the year, I think,
Speaker 1: what is Tampa in Seattle and that's in Germany, I guess,
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a nine thirty games East Coast.
Speaker 1: That's a six thirty game in Seattle. Up. Yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's uh And I like the nine start, which
Speaker 1: I wish every week. Yeah, so I like the morning
Speaker 1: football games. I don't know if I'd like the sixth
Speaker 1: be am games for the Seattle Seahawk fans, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a great matchup because the Denver Broncos. I mean,
Speaker 1: the way you look at the Denver Broncos now with
Speaker 1: them having Russell Wilson has completely changed. Now you look
Speaker 1: at them as a contender. Yeah, I mean you really
Speaker 1: crazy offseason for them, So I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great matchup. I think it's gonna be UH and
Speaker 1: hopefully Trevor takes a big jump this year, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to play well at the quarterback position to
Speaker 1: be able to have a chance to beat a Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson led football team. Because he's that good. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: to mention he hasn't Daniel Hackett, who are very familiar
Speaker 1: with and he's yeah, he's so. I was talking to
Speaker 1: the Broncos broadcast department this morning to the podcast about
Speaker 1: this London game, and I was like, how much do
Speaker 1: you love them? And They're like, don't even get me started, Like,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love working with him. One of
Speaker 1: the greatest film room segments that that I've ever had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a part of was with Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett when we did the UH. I think it was
Speaker 1: the r p O stuff, the read options stuff, and
Speaker 1: he took us on the grease board on all the
Speaker 1: things that can happen and the abilities that you can
Speaker 1: have with the with that stuff and UH and it
Speaker 1: was awesome and I learned so much from him and
Speaker 1: if he if he has, and that's the thing I
Speaker 1: think that's very unique about Nathaniel Hackett is that he's
Speaker 1: got a very unique ability to teach in a very
Speaker 1: easy way of of making things understandable, which is all
Speaker 1: about coaching. That's what you're trying to do is get
Speaker 1: players to understand what you're trying to accomplish. And so
Speaker 1: I think he'll be very successful. I think Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and from what I've read, Russell Wilson loves him, and
Speaker 1: so looking forward to seeing him there and looking forward
Speaker 1: to the matchup because I think it's a really good matchup,
Speaker 1: especially for h for the people and the fans over
Speaker 1: there in London. Yeah, it's um. They were doing a
Speaker 1: social media segment with Nathaniel hacking. You mentioned how good
Speaker 1: he is about being on the film room and everything,
Speaker 1: and they got going on him explaining a play and
Speaker 1: I swear because I watched your film rooms and they're
Speaker 1: fantastic and I learned a lot. He was seriously speaking
Speaker 1: in another language. He is. He's like a wind up
Speaker 1: toy as a broadcaster because you know, you'll always want
Speaker 1: to ask the right question and with with Nate. It's
Speaker 1: very rare that you don't ask the right question because
Speaker 1: he's just he's got a he's got a gift and uh,
Speaker 1: and it's fun to listen to and you know, he
Speaker 1: comes from a football family and he football has been
Speaker 1: his life and uh. And one of the most disappointing
Speaker 1: moments I ever had here was when when Doug Morone
Speaker 1: fired him as the offensive cord and I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, just for us, keep on, you know, so, yes,
Speaker 1: very much. So let's go around the NFL. A lot
Speaker 1: going on this week, that's for sure. I want to
Speaker 1: start with something I saw on Twitter that absolutely cracked
Speaker 1: me up. Yesterday's a fan put out about Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: and improving his play and they said, man, what if
Speaker 1: he's got this jump pass next season? Like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan retweets this who is with the Titans as
Speaker 1: announcements A stir is help and hope not well. Taylor
Speaker 1: Lawan is is quite the personality. They what's the podcast
Speaker 1: stuff that he does? Oh, it's something with the what's
Speaker 1: it called. It's they're in a bus help me out.
Speaker 1: They have a couple of different guys with the boys
Speaker 1: busting with the boys. Yeah, and uh, and it does
Speaker 1: a good job. And so anyway, it's a great response,
Speaker 1: so you know, because somebody wrote that and he responds
Speaker 1: to it because obviously the Titans being in the division.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's as he is when you watch Teller
Speaker 1: Lawan play football on game day. He is so overly dramatic. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, and that's why he has a podcast. And
Speaker 1: so I mean he's a natural fit for getting in
Speaker 1: front of a microphone or from the TV camera. I
Speaker 1: mean that's uh, he's gonna have an easy second career.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, yes, And let stick with
Speaker 1: the Titans because I'm part of the problem because I
Speaker 1: put this in the rundown and I have to talk
Speaker 1: about it and we have to talk about it. But
Speaker 1: I saw it at first what happened with Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you do not know, he was
Speaker 1: talking about coaching up his rookie quarterback and he said,
Speaker 1: that's not my job to coach him up. We're fighting
Speaker 1: for a job here and I'm not here to mentor
Speaker 1: young quarterback. I'm here to be the starter for the Titans.
Speaker 1: Huge backlash, like is always on the worst guy in
Speaker 1: the world. I kind of agree with him, but now
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's not a big deal, Like why
Speaker 1: people making such a big deal of this, and now
Speaker 1: we're talking about it on this show, so I'm part
Speaker 1: of the problem. Well, Ryan Tannehill is right, it's not
Speaker 1: the starting quarterbacks job to mentor that's why they pay coaches.
Speaker 1: And is it the starting quarterbacks job to be a
Speaker 1: good teammate? Yes? And will you help if asked? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: But I understand his response in his response if you,
Speaker 1: if you would, if you could have said it a
Speaker 1: different way, he could have probably what what went ahead
Speaker 1: and said, hey, look, the first job that I need
Speaker 1: to worry about is getting myself ready to play, because
Speaker 1: that's my responsibility. I get paid to be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: I need to get ready to be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: If I can help him along the way while I'm
Speaker 1: doing all of that in preparation for my responsibility, than great.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the way you answer it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's Ryan Tannehill is not a bad guy. He's not
Speaker 1: trying to he's not trying to shun a draft pick
Speaker 1: just because he plays the same position of him, and
Speaker 1: he's worried about this young quarterback coming in and taking
Speaker 1: his job. That's not what the response was all about.
Speaker 1: I think one of the more interesting things that Ryan
Speaker 1: Hill Ryan Tannehill said and part of this press conference,
Speaker 1: was that he had to get psychological help from the
Speaker 1: playoff loss that they experienced last year against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: That's a hard admit right there, and for starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in the National football to be so forthright and to say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I had a really hard time. I was in a
Speaker 1: dark place. I needed to get help to help get
Speaker 1: over that loss that we had. And I think he
Speaker 1: had three interceptions in that game or something like that
Speaker 1: in the Tennessee Titans ended up losing that football game.
Speaker 1: And how he talked about how he needed help, and
Speaker 1: then couple that with the loss of a J. Brown
Speaker 1: Is wide receiver to Philip Delpi Eagles. Then he talks
Speaker 1: also about that and how it impacted him. I mean
Speaker 1: that's you know, Look, I think the one thing I
Speaker 1: think that a lot of fans expect out of NFL
Speaker 1: players as they expect them to be superhuman. Oh well,
Speaker 1: he should always help out the young player. He should
Speaker 1: always be a good teammate. Well, he is a good teammate.
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever said anything bad about Ryan and Ryan Tannehill ever.
Speaker 1: It's been a great teammate and we also expect to
Speaker 1: play it all. He's tough, tough enough, you know, cupcake,
Speaker 1: you know take you know, move forward and get better.
Speaker 1: Well let me look, he lost a football game and
Speaker 1: a lot of it was in part to his performance,
Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing to kind of bounce back from.
Speaker 1: So I give Ryan tanney Hill a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for being so honest and uh. And I know that
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans had some discussions about possibly replacing him this year.
Speaker 1: I root for Tanny Hill on game days that they're
Speaker 1: not playing the Jaguars because I like how he handles
Speaker 1: his business. I always have h He's been a really
Speaker 1: good pro and and I think he's the type of
Speaker 1: quarterback that you want to see when Yeah, totally agree.
Speaker 1: He's gone through a lot in his career, a lot
Speaker 1: of stops along the way and kind of the ultimate
Speaker 1: success story making it to the Titans and now having
Speaker 1: so much success. Because there were times growing up in
Speaker 1: South Florida with the Dolphins, I was like, this guy
Speaker 1: is never gonna make it and now look at him out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I like him. I think that. Put it this way,
Speaker 1: if I'm John Robinson, who's the general manager of the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, I like my quarterback Ryan Tannehill. I don't
Speaker 1: love him. I like him and I love him personally,
Speaker 1: but professionally, I still want to find a way to
Speaker 1: find a franchise guy. Yeah, I get that. I mean
Speaker 1: he's not the Mahomes, he's not the guy that he's
Speaker 1: going to play for another ten years. But you still
Speaker 1: got to appreciate what he is and what he does
Speaker 1: for your franchise. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: as a general manager, you're intasked with finding a franchise
Speaker 1: tight solution and Ryan Tannehill, in my opinion, is not that.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate it. Yeah, probably another what two years,
Speaker 1: and then you go and try to find the next step.
Speaker 1: You're looking right now, right, I mean that's you. You're
Speaker 1: you're already booking. That's you never stopped looking. Now. You
Speaker 1: might not expend the resources right now as far as
Speaker 1: the high end resource, but you're you're looking right now. There.
Speaker 1: Put it this way, the draft pick that they have
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. They didn't draft him with the expectation, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just going to be a backup, practice
Speaker 1: squad guy. Yeah, you know. They look, hey, look he's
Speaker 1: got a chance and hopefully he can develop and be
Speaker 1: a franchise guy and replace Ryan Tannehill. Ye one day,
Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks as is crazy us, Where the heck
Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield going to play this here? Great question.
Speaker 1: I still believe that Seattle would be a great place
Speaker 1: for him to end up. Uh. Seattle's system has always
Speaker 1: kind of been built around the foundation of a running game,
Speaker 1: and I think that Baker Mayfield is that type of quarterback.
Speaker 1: And that's not to to criticize him, but it's to
Speaker 1: be realistic and that what you know. And and the
Speaker 1: other thing too. Baker Mayfield last year what I love
Speaker 1: about him He played hurt the entire year and toughness
Speaker 1: and availability are always two traits at the quarterback position
Speaker 1: that you want to have, and UH Seattle has a need.
Speaker 1: They currently have um one quarterback under contract, Gino Smiths
Speaker 1: for I think with incentives somewhere around seven million, which
Speaker 1: is not that cost prohibited to keep you from going
Speaker 1: out and get into Baker Mayfield. So I think Acre
Speaker 1: Mayfield would be a great guy to put into that
Speaker 1: Seattle system until they can find maybe their guy, and
Speaker 1: maybe Baker Mayfield does so can develop into that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I wouldn't be happy if
Speaker 1: I was Seattle with where I'm at right now. No,
Speaker 1: it's not good enough. Another guy Carolina has got a
Speaker 1: draft pick. They got Sam Donald, who they gave up
Speaker 1: draft picks for last year and probably regret it right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that would happen, because you're Sam
Speaker 1: Donald has guaranteed money for this year. You can't let
Speaker 1: him go. If you do, you still got to pay them.
Speaker 1: So it's uh. The reality is its Seattle is not
Speaker 1: going to trade for him, and they're probably just letting
Speaker 1: him say so. Maybe Seattle just says, hey, look, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll just be patient and we'll wait until we can
Speaker 1: just get them for free. That kind of seems because
Speaker 1: that were there with a lot of talk, especially early
Speaker 1: on the draft, of thinking is this the week and
Speaker 1: everything kind of settle. When I say when I say free,
Speaker 1: I mean not like free, like they're not gonna pay
Speaker 1: like a Wendy Chicken. They don't want to give up
Speaker 1: draft picks to go get that, and then the Browns
Speaker 1: are a whole another story. Yeah, that's it's weird generally,
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson thing like, Yeah, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen there, but you know, here, here's one thing
Speaker 1: to consider too, though. The way the NFL has instituted
Speaker 1: the um what's the word the punishment system. It's changed
Speaker 1: in recent years. So the person that determines what the
Speaker 1: punishment is going to be as a person that now
Speaker 1: is jointly paid by the NFL Players Association and the NFL,
Speaker 1: so we're in the past it's kind of been all
Speaker 1: commissioner based. So now that person is, uh, what's the
Speaker 1: right way to say it, less more or less inclined
Speaker 1: to be as harsh maybe per se just because half
Speaker 1: of that checks coming from the NFL. A movie, but
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be in an interesting watch what
Speaker 1: happens there. And then the commissioner does have the ability
Speaker 1: to modify what that person decides. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: tricky language. I was reading about that just recently, and
Speaker 1: the commissioners it'll be an interesting watch. We'll just say it.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. For DeShawn Watson. Is he gonna
Speaker 1: play this year? Is he gonna be suspended? How is
Speaker 1: the fans? Are they going to embrace him in Cleveland?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's gonna play. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. And here's the thing. When he
Speaker 1: goes to other cities, they're gonna have chance get a
Speaker 1: massade to Sean. Do you think that Jacksville was crazy?
Speaker 1: Just buckle up for that. Wait till he has to
Speaker 1: go to Philly. Oh god, I'm scared for him. Thank
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