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Speaker 1: coming to say all of these things. That happy hour

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Speaker 1: He has earned it. After draft coverage and Jeff, we

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Speaker 1: had a lot to talk about today we do. It

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Speaker 1: was what one week ago today that the draft was

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Speaker 1: of the draft. So at uh an exciting. Always the

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Speaker 1: draft always represents hope and uh and for a franchise

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Speaker 1: certainly need free agency, especially on the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. That leads us to what's coming up on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. It's a draft recap. Five out of

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Speaker 1: seven draft picks. On the defensive sides, we'll talk all

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Speaker 1: Moving over to offense, Cam Robinson got a contract extension

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Speaker 1: coach Bill Showey will be joining us here in the

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Speaker 1: him a lot about that number one overall pick Trayvon Walker.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure breaking news again this week, the Denver

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Speaker 1: Halloween weekend the season. Very cool matchup between Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: and let's go back to recapping the NFL draft. Five

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Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator and coach Peterson said, Yeah, this three four,

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Speaker 1: top end individuals. There's no arguing that. That's not a debate.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're gonna love this guy. He's such a

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Speaker 1: good guy. But he he really is a breath of

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Speaker 1: fresh air in this building. And everyone says how relatable

433
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Speaker 1: he isn't It's funny. I was walking down the hallway

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Speaker 1: the other day and he's talking to Brandon Sheriff about

435
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Speaker 1: turkey hunting, and it's just like he's just such a

436
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Speaker 1: normal person who's just a really good football coach. It seems, well,

437
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's great to be a good football coach.

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Speaker 1: It's important to have good people around, and that's part

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Speaker 1: of the culture, and that was part of the high

440
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Speaker 1: character guys that we drafted. And you and you hear

441
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Speaker 1: those themes and they just it's the world is around,

442
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Speaker 1: and it's it's cyclical and and good people, good coaches,

443
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, good players, hopefully good results and and that's

444
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Speaker 1: that's the thought process, with a lot of hard work

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Speaker 1: in between and and some of that back and forth

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Speaker 1: that we talked about too, you know, and and uh,

447
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Speaker 1: you know, iron sharpen's iron, But you've gotta be able

448
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Speaker 1: to you gotta be able to stretch and pool and

449
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Speaker 1: and grind and sweat and all that other stuff that

450
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Speaker 1: you know goes into and a good football team. Okay,

451
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: so iron sharpens iron. But boy, the weather certainly does

452
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Speaker 1: make it feel a lot better when you're doing all

453
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Speaker 1: of that. So last year you in Chicago right as

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Speaker 1: a coach, and now you got your family down here

455
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Speaker 1: in Florida and Jackson all they gotta be loving it. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: obviously the weather is great. And were the one thing

457
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Speaker 1: Coach Towns and I, who were in Chicago last year

458
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Speaker 1: as well as Chris Jackson was in was in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and Coach Towns and I were saying that the one

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Speaker 1: thing we're not going to do this year. Is complained

461
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Speaker 1: about the heat, so you can hold me too that

462
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be I'm sure I know that's going to

463
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Speaker 1: be the case. I know I'm naive by saying that,

464
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Speaker 1: but but after being in Chicago, and I love Chicago

465
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Speaker 1: is a great city and a great team. I love

466
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Speaker 1: the players there and everything. But great restaurants, great food,

467
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Speaker 1: just like Philadelphia by the way, and uh, you know everything.

468
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Speaker 1: But we're looking forward. The family is looking forward to

469
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Speaker 1: a fresh start. I'm looking forward to a fresh start.

470
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Speaker 1: There's good people down here on the staff and so

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Speaker 1: um you. We're excited, and the palm trees and the

472
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Speaker 1: beach always helped to I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: about that heat thing again about August. That's okay, it's

474
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Speaker 1: terrible times. We're gonna hate it. It It gets hot for

475
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Speaker 1: a while. Once you get into September. You know, you're

476
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Speaker 1: so used to that fall, that hint of fall. It

477
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Speaker 1: ain't happening in September. About October, it's gonna happen, all right,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be together. Yes, we make it work somehow, Someway, coach,

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Speaker 1: look in Join us at the bank this season as

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Speaker 1: head coach Don Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence leave the

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Speaker 1: Slash tickets are called nine oh four six three three

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Speaker 1: two thousand. The front offering. You know, the coaches kind

488
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Speaker 1: of wanted to keep, you know, some of whose staples

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Speaker 1: around just to kind of build around and kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, start started to form that what we want

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Speaker 1: to ultimately get done here so long. I mean, I

492
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Speaker 1: think it's just a great thing that's keeping guys around,

493
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Speaker 1: and we brought in kind of home grown um by Pharaoh,

494
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Speaker 1: Josh Ship, whoever else we decided to keep around. Left

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Speaker 1: tackle Cam Robinson a very happy guy this week, getting

496
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Speaker 1: a contract extension very well and earned. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Are on ten ten Excel and Jaguars dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan and Jeff Logman here with you this week.

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Speaker 1: JP Shatterck kind of much during vacation and Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: big news, Jeff. We saw this coming. It was a

501
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Speaker 1: work in progress and we were wondering, Okay, what's taken

502
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Speaker 1: to the long one? Is it gonna happen? Finally happened.

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Speaker 1: You have your guy, your set, and now there's some

504
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Speaker 1: key peace down the offensive line. You feel pretty good about. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were kind of curious

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Speaker 1: as to what would happen with Cam and would that

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Speaker 1: impact what the Jaguars do with that first overall pick

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Speaker 1: and so um I said this a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: that the the starting point for Cam had to be

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Speaker 1: the franchise number this year, plus what the expected increase

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Speaker 1: was gonna be with franchise TAGA next year. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of where you were starting that from a guaranteed money standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a fair deal for both sides.

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Speaker 1: When I say that that, uh, many people were expecting

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Speaker 1: the market to climb much higher for left tackles this offseason,

516
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Speaker 1: but it really didn't. With the Armstead deal not being

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Speaker 1: as lucrative. I think that that brought some of the

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Speaker 1: reality down for the Cam Robinson contract. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good contract for the team. And uh, it

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Speaker 1: gives them stability as far as Okay, we know who

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Speaker 1: are left tackle now is going to be and now

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Speaker 1: we have two guys that are going to compete on

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Speaker 1: the right side, and then we'll just figure out how

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Speaker 1: things work out from there. So that's the way you

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Speaker 1: wanted though them. You know, you keep hearing coaches, including

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Speaker 1: Bill should We, who we just had in the seat

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Speaker 1: right here, talk about iron Sharpen's iron, and that's when

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Speaker 1: you get more competition in the room. It makes everybody better.

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Speaker 1: And so bringing Cam back, even though many people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you just move on, you put Walker a little in

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Speaker 1: the left tackle and go find it right tackle. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's all easier said than done. Sometimes it's better to

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Speaker 1: keep some of the components you got, continue to add

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Speaker 1: to it, allow the competition to work it out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that was a point that Doug Peterson made to

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Speaker 1: us at the combine, and he was like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: get the narrative, and I get the narrative is the

538
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Speaker 1: Jaguars at times don't keep good players. They train them

539
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Speaker 1: away or they don't get to that second contract. And

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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm trying to change that narrative. And

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Speaker 1: he talked to us about Cam Robinson and Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: at the combine. So you're kind of seeing this trend start,

543
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Speaker 1: like they're recognizing talent and saying we got to keep

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Speaker 1: it in this building. Well, and Cam still has to

545
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Speaker 1: get better, and I mean this is not a I

546
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Speaker 1: don't think he's a finished product. I think he can

547
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Speaker 1: still get a lot better. I think his technique and

548
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Speaker 1: some of his fundamentals need to get better. And I

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Speaker 1: think his new offensive line coach is gonna be I

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Speaker 1: think a big help to him, because coaching matters, and

551
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Speaker 1: the more discipline, the fundum mentals and footwork become. To

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Speaker 1: give you an example, Ashland years ago, when I was

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Speaker 1: playing defensive end and was a young defensive end. I'll

554
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Speaker 1: never forget going against an older Mike Ken of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, and Mike was in your eighteen or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. I mean it was a lot of one eighteen,

557
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Speaker 1: but it might have been. I mean it was long,

558
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, long tooth and uh. And I just remember

559
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: looking at the physical abilities of Mike at that time

560
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: saying I got him, Yeah, you know, I got him.

561
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Speaker 1: But Mike was impeccable about every step that he took

562
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: was so disciplined and so where it needed to be

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Speaker 1: that his sets and his fundamentals cut off a lot

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Speaker 1: of possibilities for you as a defensive player just because

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Speaker 1: he was on point, not because he was big, fast, strong, tough,

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Speaker 1: because his fundamentals were there. And I think that that's

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Speaker 1: something that Cam needs to strive to get words. Because

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Speaker 1: he has the athletic ability, he has the physical makeup,

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Speaker 1: he's a good run blocker, he's tough as nails, but

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00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: the fundamentals need to get better for him to take

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Speaker 1: that next up. And I think he can take that

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Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, I think they said that's when you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why they franchise taged him as they saw potential

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Speaker 1: and they saw he could get there. So it's definitely interesting.

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Speaker 1: And then they draft Luke Fortner and it was funny.

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Speaker 1: We had Tyler Shatley on Jaguary's Drive Time a couple

577
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago and Tyler Shatley, I go to the

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Speaker 1: same gyms. We see each other all the time and

579
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: every time I see me go to Ashland, you bench

580
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Speaker 1: pressed with him and everything. Yeah, we've bench about the same,

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Speaker 1: So we've really been training together. And he tells me

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Speaker 1: at the gym. He's like, I'm training because what if

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Speaker 1: a draft pick comes in, Luke Fortner comes right on,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm really curious how that shakes out. I'm

585
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: pulling from my gym buddy. But Luke Forwartner seems to

586
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: have that upside too well. He's first team All SEC

587
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Speaker 1: at the Powerhouse University of Kentucky, Okay teammates a former

588
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: teammates with Josh Allen. The reality is is that he's

589
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: a good football player. I think he's got to work

590
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Speaker 1: on some things when it comes to getting to that

591
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: second level. Some of that stuff is not as easy.

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Speaker 1: But a good in line blocker and uh, I like him.

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00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: He's got size, but he's got a lot to work on.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's hard to overcome experience when you're a

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Speaker 1: young player like that. And Tyler Shatley is a good

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Speaker 1: football player. He is a good football player, and he

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00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: has starting caliber abilities and uh, he's been around the block.

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00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: He knows all the tricks of the trade. And by

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: the way, Ashley, you're not bench pressing with him because

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Speaker 1: one of the strongest guys that there is in the

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Speaker 1: weight room he is he is ye know, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the strongest guys. Now he's you know, he's a big,

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Speaker 1: strong guy. So so I think it's gonna take a

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00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: little time for partner. But again that's good for the room.

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Speaker 1: Competition is good, make everybody better. Yeah, you mentioned competition,

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Speaker 1: and this is the question I had for you. Um

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Speaker 1: with Chad Muma and I was talking to him and

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Speaker 1: he and he really it's the doubt how intelligent he

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Speaker 1: is in his communication skills. And he brought up so

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Speaker 1: many examples of when he wore the green dot in

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Speaker 1: different situations. In my head when I'm talking to him

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Speaker 1: like all right, that's your starter, that's that's your play collar.

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Speaker 1: And then I was talking to John and Brian like

614
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: not so fast. I don't know if he's starting right away.

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Speaker 1: That's another position group where it's it's really interesting how

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Speaker 1: this is going to shake out. Yeah, and just to

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Speaker 1: explain the green dot because some people don't know what

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Speaker 1: that means. In the NFL, a defensive player or an

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Speaker 1: offensive player, if it has a player to coach communication

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Speaker 1: set in the helmet, that's what the green dot signifies.

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Speaker 1: So lets people know that this guy has that communication ability.

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Speaker 1: And so green dot typically for on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: of the ball as a linebacker, and he's the guy

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Speaker 1: that's calling plays in front of the huddle, so he's

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Speaker 1: a leader and he can get people lined up. He

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Speaker 1: can handle handle the added responsibility. And that's what Muma

627
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: has been in college. He's been a very highly productive player.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a prototypical linebacker, shoulders square, uh, tough

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Speaker 1: when he gets there. He knocks Pete back. I think

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Speaker 1: that was the one thing that really stood out on

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Speaker 1: film with him is that when he struck people, he's

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Speaker 1: big and strong. Now when he's big and strong, he's

633
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: knocking people back. But he's athletic. He can play multiple downs,

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Speaker 1: I think in the National Football League. I don't think

635
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Speaker 1: he's a natural blitzer like a like a Lloyd is,

636
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Speaker 1: but but I think he's he can be a three

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Speaker 1: down linebacker. Where he plays at, I think it's gonna

638
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: be interesting as far as where a lou Khan is

639
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna be, where Lloyd's gonna be, where Mum is gonna be,

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: because typically you got two inside positions, okay, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and in the outside guys who were talking Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and a smooth and a Travon Walker. So uh, I

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Speaker 1: think It's gonna be interesting to see how they line up.

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Speaker 1: It is it options are a great thing coition and

645
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: and the other thing, look if if if he's not starting,

646
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Speaker 1: they and he will be a significant backup and a

647
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Speaker 1: contributor on special teams, which is a big part of

648
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Speaker 1: winning to getting your special teams better. And what do

649
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: you think of Snoop Connor? This was that's you know,

650
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: he's a guy that doesn't put it this way when

651
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Speaker 1: he gets into the open field or he sees that

652
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, or you see him get in the open

653
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: field what we perceive as the open field. And right

654
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: there we just saw where he made a defender number

655
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Speaker 1: eleven miss. He doesn't do that a lot a lot

656
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: of times. He is just a power guy. And what

657
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: I love most about watching him is that when you

658
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: hand him the ball and you need a yard or two,

659
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna get you a yard or two. He and

660
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: he's a very strong finisher at the goal line, very

661
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: strong finisher in short yardage. And you have two running

662
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: backs already in the room that are really good or

663
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: expected to be good. Because et N still hasn't proven

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Speaker 1: it at the National Football League level because he missed

665
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: the entirety of his rookie year. We know j Rob

666
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: can do it, but both of these guys are coming

667
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: off significant injuries, So how is that going to affect

668
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: them this year? So adding to that room I think

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00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: was was gonna happen. I didn't know how it would

670
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: happen what had happened as a draft pick or an

671
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. But I'm glad they added to it.

672
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that doesn't have a lot

673
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Speaker 1: of miles. Okay, mileage matters when it comes to running backs.

674
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: You don't want to have a guy that that has

675
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on the odometer and hasn't had

676
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: the old changes and all the upgrades throughout his existence.

677
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Speaker 1: And he's getting to you like damage goods. This is

678
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: a guy that was in a rotation and he's gonna

679
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: be fresh and ready to go. Yeah, just like my car,

680
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Just like my jeep, I don't take it in for

681
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: oil change. My dad gets so mad. He's like, oh

682
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: my god, it's been five thousand miles. You don't want

683
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: that guy. No, you don't want that guy. And and uh,

684
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: and he's a physical back, and and one thing you

685
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: always look at a lot of these young players that

686
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Speaker 1: come out of college and they come in the National

687
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Football League and you say, Okay, now they're playing with

688
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: grown men. I'll never forget when I made the jump

689
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: from college to pros, and the biggest thing that I

690
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: noticed was we had some guys that were big physically

691
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Speaker 1: in college at Virginia, and then you go to the

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Speaker 1: locker room in the National Football League or any locker room,

693
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Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god. I mean, like, the

694
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: best of the best that you had in college are

695
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: now everywhere in your locker room in the National Football League,

696
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: and so you expect guys to take some time to develop,

697
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: continue to develop physically. Okay, this young man Connor is

698
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: walking in the building and guys are gonna go, oh yeah,

699
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Yeah physically, oh yeah, he's great

700
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: to hear. He's ready to go. Exciting draft five at

701
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Speaker 1: a set in defense, but some key contributions on offense

702
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Speaker 1: as well. When we come back on Jaguars Happy Hour,

703
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: around the NFL, lots to talk about a lot of

704
00:34:52,440 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: drama going on this week, we'll be back. One of

705
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Speaker 1: one of my first UM meetings really was with with

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Speaker 1: our our London team and and meeting meeting all the

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Speaker 1: all the folks that are involved with the trip, and

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Speaker 1: so we we have our our plan in place and

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Speaker 1: and we're we're ready for you know, for for the

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Speaker 1: trip and obviously the game October. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's something you do have to spend some time and

712
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: thinking about the travel and getting all your guys and

713
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: gear and equipment and the technology over there, um, you know,

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: as an organization, and and you gotta do it early.

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Speaker 1: And so we've done that with our plan in place,

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Speaker 1: and we're just kind of waiting on the week to

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Speaker 1: get here. Hey, Coach Doug Peterson discussing the big news

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Speaker 1: this week. The Jaguars will play the Broncos in London

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Speaker 1: this season coming up October thirty, Halloween weekend in London.

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Speaker 1: Very cool. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour ont t Excelling,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, Ashland Sullivan and Jeff Logerman here with

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: you this week. This is gonna be a really cool game.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson versus Trevor Lawrence talk about an incredible competition

724
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Speaker 1: for Trevor. Well, first of all, Trevor had great success

725
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: there last year, big win and beat the Miami dofense

726
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Speaker 1: and the first rookie to ever win over in London.

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Speaker 1: So I think that this is a football team in

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars that organizationally has the experience of going over there.

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Speaker 1: That helps a lot for for the Denver Broncos. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a little new because I think this

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Speaker 1: is the first I think that this year, after the

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Speaker 1: completion of this year, with all the games that will

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Speaker 1: be over in Europe, that every team in the league

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Speaker 1: will have been to Europe. That's at some point after

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Speaker 1: this year and the first game of the year, I think,

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Speaker 1: what is Tampa in Seattle and that's in Germany, I guess,

737
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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a nine thirty games East Coast.

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Speaker 1: That's a six thirty game in Seattle. Up. Yeah, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's uh And I like the nine start, which

740
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: I wish every week. Yeah, so I like the morning

741
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: football games. I don't know if I'd like the sixth

742
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: be am games for the Seattle Seahawk fans, but I

743
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: think it's a great matchup because the Denver Broncos. I mean,

744
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: the way you look at the Denver Broncos now with

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: them having Russell Wilson has completely changed. Now you look

746
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: at them as a contender. Yeah, I mean you really

747
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: crazy offseason for them, So I think it's gonna be

748
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: a great matchup. I think it's gonna be UH and

749
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: hopefully Trevor takes a big jump this year, because you're

750
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Speaker 1: gonna have to play well at the quarterback position to

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Speaker 1: be able to have a chance to beat a Russell

752
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Wilson led football team. Because he's that good. Yeah, not

753
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: to mention he hasn't Daniel Hackett, who are very familiar

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Speaker 1: with and he's yeah, he's so. I was talking to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos broadcast department this morning to the podcast about

756
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: this London game, and I was like, how much do

757
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: you love them? And They're like, don't even get me started, Like,

758
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love working with him. One of

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00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: the greatest film room segments that that I've ever had

760
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a part of was with Nathaniel

761
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Hackett when we did the UH. I think it was

762
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: the r p O stuff, the read options stuff, and

763
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: he took us on the grease board on all the

764
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: things that can happen and the abilities that you can

765
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: have with the with that stuff and UH and it

766
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: was awesome and I learned so much from him and

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Speaker 1: if he if he has, and that's the thing I

768
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: think that's very unique about Nathaniel Hackett is that he's

769
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: got a very unique ability to teach in a very

770
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: easy way of of making things understandable, which is all

771
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: about coaching. That's what you're trying to do is get

772
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: players to understand what you're trying to accomplish. And so

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be very successful. I think Russell Wilson

774
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Speaker 1: and from what I've read, Russell Wilson loves him, and

775
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: so looking forward to seeing him there and looking forward

776
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: to the matchup because I think it's a really good matchup,

777
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: especially for h for the people and the fans over

778
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: there in London. Yeah, it's um. They were doing a

779
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Speaker 1: social media segment with Nathaniel hacking. You mentioned how good

780
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Speaker 1: he is about being on the film room and everything,

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: and they got going on him explaining a play and

782
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: I swear because I watched your film rooms and they're

783
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: fantastic and I learned a lot. He was seriously speaking

784
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: in another language. He is. He's like a wind up

785
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: toy as a broadcaster because you know, you'll always want

786
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: to ask the right question and with with Nate. It's

787
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: very rare that you don't ask the right question because

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00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: he's just he's got a he's got a gift and uh,

789
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Speaker 1: and it's fun to listen to and you know, he

790
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: comes from a football family and he football has been

791
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: his life and uh. And one of the most disappointing

792
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: moments I ever had here was when when Doug Morone

793
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Speaker 1: fired him as the offensive cord and I was like,

794
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: come on, come on, just for us, keep on, you know, so, yes,

795
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: very much. So let's go around the NFL. A lot

796
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Speaker 1: going on this week, that's for sure. I want to

797
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: start with something I saw on Twitter that absolutely cracked

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Speaker 1: me up. Yesterday's a fan put out about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and improving his play and they said, man, what if

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Speaker 1: he's got this jump pass next season? Like Patrick Mahomes.

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00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan retweets this who is with the Titans as

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Speaker 1: announcements A stir is help and hope not well. Taylor

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Speaker 1: Lawan is is quite the personality. They what's the podcast

804
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: stuff that he does? Oh, it's something with the what's

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00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: it called. It's they're in a bus help me out.

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00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: They have a couple of different guys with the boys

807
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: busting with the boys. Yeah, and uh, and it does

808
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Speaker 1: a good job. And so anyway, it's a great response,

809
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: so you know, because somebody wrote that and he responds

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Speaker 1: to it because obviously the Titans being in the division.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's as he is when you watch Teller

812
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Speaker 1: Lawan play football on game day. He is so overly dramatic. Yes,

813
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, and that's why he has a podcast. And

814
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Speaker 1: so I mean he's a natural fit for getting in

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Speaker 1: front of a microphone or from the TV camera. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's uh, he's gonna have an easy second career.

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, yes, And let stick with

818
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: the Titans because I'm part of the problem because I

819
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: put this in the rundown and I have to talk

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Speaker 1: about it and we have to talk about it. But

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Speaker 1: I saw it at first what happened with Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you do not know, he was

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Speaker 1: talking about coaching up his rookie quarterback and he said,

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Speaker 1: that's not my job to coach him up. We're fighting

825
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: for a job here and I'm not here to mentor

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. I'm here to be the starter for the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Huge backlash, like is always on the worst guy in

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Speaker 1: the world. I kind of agree with him, but now

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's not a big deal, Like why

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Speaker 1: people making such a big deal of this, and now

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Speaker 1: we're talking about it on this show, so I'm part

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Speaker 1: of the problem. Well, Ryan Tannehill is right, it's not

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterbacks job to mentor that's why they pay coaches.

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Speaker 1: And is it the starting quarterbacks job to be a

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Speaker 1: good teammate? Yes? And will you help if asked? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: But I understand his response in his response if you,

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Speaker 1: if you would, if you could have said it a

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00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: different way, he could have probably what what went ahead

839
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, look, the first job that I need

840
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: to worry about is getting myself ready to play, because

841
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: that's my responsibility. I get paid to be the starting quarterback.

842
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: I need to get ready to be the starting quarterback.

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: If I can help him along the way while I'm

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Speaker 1: doing all of that in preparation for my responsibility, than great.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the way you answer it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's Ryan Tannehill is not a bad guy. He's not

847
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Speaker 1: trying to he's not trying to shun a draft pick

848
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: just because he plays the same position of him, and

849
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: he's worried about this young quarterback coming in and taking

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Speaker 1: his job. That's not what the response was all about.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the more interesting things that Ryan

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Speaker 1: Hill Ryan Tannehill said and part of this press conference,

853
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: was that he had to get psychological help from the

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00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: playoff loss that they experienced last year against the Cincinnati Bengals.

855
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: That's a hard admit right there, and for starting quarterback

856
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: in the National football to be so forthright and to say, hey, look,

857
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I had a really hard time. I was in a

858
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: dark place. I needed to get help to help get

859
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: over that loss that we had. And I think he

860
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: had three interceptions in that game or something like that

861
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: in the Tennessee Titans ended up losing that football game.

862
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: And how he talked about how he needed help, and

863
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: then couple that with the loss of a J. Brown

864
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: Is wide receiver to Philip Delpi Eagles. Then he talks

865
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: also about that and how it impacted him. I mean

866
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: that's you know, Look, I think the one thing I

867
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: think that a lot of fans expect out of NFL

868
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: players as they expect them to be superhuman. Oh well,

869
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: he should always help out the young player. He should

870
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: always be a good teammate. Well, he is a good teammate.

871
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever said anything bad about Ryan and Ryan Tannehill ever.

872
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: It's been a great teammate and we also expect to

873
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: play it all. He's tough, tough enough, you know, cupcake,

874
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: you know take you know, move forward and get better.

875
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: Well let me look, he lost a football game and

876
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: a lot of it was in part to his performance,

877
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing to kind of bounce back from.

878
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: So I give Ryan tanney Hill a lot of credit

879
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: for being so honest and uh. And I know that

880
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans had some discussions about possibly replacing him this year.

881
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I root for Tanny Hill on game days that they're

882
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: not playing the Jaguars because I like how he handles

883
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: his business. I always have h He's been a really

884
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: good pro and and I think he's the type of

885
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: quarterback that you want to see when Yeah, totally agree.

886
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: He's gone through a lot in his career, a lot

887
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: of stops along the way and kind of the ultimate

888
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: success story making it to the Titans and now having

889
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: so much success. Because there were times growing up in

890
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: South Florida with the Dolphins, I was like, this guy

891
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: is never gonna make it and now look at him out. Yeah,

892
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: that's I like him. I think that. Put it this way,

893
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: if I'm John Robinson, who's the general manager of the

894
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, I like my quarterback Ryan Tannehill. I don't

895
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: love him. I like him and I love him personally,

896
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: but professionally, I still want to find a way to

897
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: find a franchise guy. Yeah, I get that. I mean

898
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: he's not the Mahomes, he's not the guy that he's

899
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: going to play for another ten years. But you still

900
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: got to appreciate what he is and what he does

901
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: for your franchise. But at the end of the day,

902
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: as a general manager, you're intasked with finding a franchise

903
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: tight solution and Ryan Tannehill, in my opinion, is not that.

904
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: But I appreciate it. Yeah, probably another what two years,

905
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: and then you go and try to find the next step.

906
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: You're looking right now, right, I mean that's you. You're

907
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: you're already booking. That's you never stopped looking. Now. You

908
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: might not expend the resources right now as far as

909
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: the high end resource, but you're you're looking right now. There.

910
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Put it this way, the draft pick that they have

911
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. They didn't draft him with the expectation, well,

912
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's just going to be a backup, practice

913
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: squad guy. Yeah, you know. They look, hey, look he's

914
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: got a chance and hopefully he can develop and be

915
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: a franchise guy and replace Ryan Tannehill. Ye one day,

916
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks as is crazy us, Where the heck

917
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield going to play this here? Great question.

918
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I still believe that Seattle would be a great place

919
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: for him to end up. Uh. Seattle's system has always

920
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: kind of been built around the foundation of a running game,

921
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: and I think that Baker Mayfield is that type of quarterback.

922
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: And that's not to to criticize him, but it's to

923
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: be realistic and that what you know. And and the

924
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: other thing too. Baker Mayfield last year what I love

925
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: about him He played hurt the entire year and toughness

926
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: and availability are always two traits at the quarterback position

927
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: that you want to have, and UH Seattle has a need.

928
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: They currently have um one quarterback under contract, Gino Smiths

929
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: for I think with incentives somewhere around seven million, which

930
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: is not that cost prohibited to keep you from going

931
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: out and get into Baker Mayfield. So I think Acre

932
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Mayfield would be a great guy to put into that

933
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Seattle system until they can find maybe their guy, and

934
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: maybe Baker Mayfield does so can develop into that guy.

935
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Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I wouldn't be happy if

936
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Speaker 1: I was Seattle with where I'm at right now. No,

937
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: it's not good enough. Another guy Carolina has got a

938
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: draft pick. They got Sam Donald, who they gave up

939
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: draft picks for last year and probably regret it right now. Um,

940
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if that would happen, because you're Sam

941
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Donald has guaranteed money for this year. You can't let

942
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: him go. If you do, you still got to pay them.

943
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: So it's uh. The reality is its Seattle is not

944
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: going to trade for him, and they're probably just letting

945
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: him say so. Maybe Seattle just says, hey, look, we'll

946
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: we'll just be patient and we'll wait until we can

947
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: just get them for free. That kind of seems because

948
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: that were there with a lot of talk, especially early

949
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: on the draft, of thinking is this the week and

950
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: everything kind of settle. When I say when I say free,

951
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean not like free, like they're not gonna pay

952
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: like a Wendy Chicken. They don't want to give up

953
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: draft picks to go get that, and then the Browns

954
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: are a whole another story. Yeah, that's it's weird generally,

955
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson thing like, Yeah, I don't know what's going

956
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: to happen there, but you know, here, here's one thing

957
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: to consider too, though. The way the NFL has instituted

958
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the um what's the word the punishment system. It's changed

959
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: in recent years. So the person that determines what the

960
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: punishment is going to be as a person that now

961
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: is jointly paid by the NFL Players Association and the NFL,

962
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: so we're in the past it's kind of been all

963
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: commissioner based. So now that person is, uh, what's the

964
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: right way to say it, less more or less inclined

965
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: to be as harsh maybe per se just because half

966
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: of that checks coming from the NFL. A movie, but

967
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be in an interesting watch what

968
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: happens there. And then the commissioner does have the ability

969
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: to modify what that person decides. It's kind of a

970
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: tricky language. I was reading about that just recently, and

971
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: the commissioners it'll be an interesting watch. We'll just say it.

972
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Put it that way. For DeShawn Watson. Is he gonna

973
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: play this year? Is he gonna be suspended? How is

974
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: the fans? Are they going to embrace him in Cleveland?

975
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's gonna play. I don't know.

976
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. And here's the thing. When he

977
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: goes to other cities, they're gonna have chance get a

978
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: massade to Sean. Do you think that Jacksville was crazy?

979
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: Just buckle up for that. Wait till he has to

980
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: go to Philly. Oh god, I'm scared for him. Thank

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982
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