WEBVTT - Conversations About Media 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Wash up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.960 Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:14.120 low blasses, Malone. We know goddamn well. Any time the 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.160 media banned somebody, that person is probably somewhat decent for 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:23.560 people historically until they've been one serial killer. Don't do 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.080 no interviews, no more on on on on this motherucker 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.360 to murder a thousand months they could be eating. They 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.200 did an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer because he was eating 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.800 human beings and they were doing interviews with him. They 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.319 didn't ban him from the media. You mean to tell 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:44.639 me Trump, it's worse than Jeffrey Dahmer. Pete still one 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.640 of the funniest people I've ever heard have conversations in 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.720 my life. People with my headphones on, my girl be 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.280 looking at me crazy while I'll be laughing when he'd 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.960 be I don't know why people hate still so much. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:05.440 The man said he's selling so for fifty million for 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:13.760 five christ I'm to fifth grand I'll give him a 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.320 whole comma. You ever seen the episode of The Simpsons 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.200 with Barton didn't believe in selling his soul, and he 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.039 sold his soul the meal House for five dollars and 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.000 it was time to crossover purgatory to that to that 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.600 to heaven. And it was a robot and you was 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.600 you is like in the middle and like you're you're 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.119 rocking your soul. It's you and your soul and both 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.520 of y'all floating backwards. And you're gonna be that motherfucker 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.400 floating in the circle because you don't think your soul 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.760 is real. You already like in theory, part of the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.120 rose Gold community. So it's a question about the lack 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:53.240 there is of set such subject. So I don't understand 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.800 how you play with it there. I mean, it's a 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.880 lot of conversations. I mean, I think it's and propagated 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.360 by south Park. They kind of like Scott Timmerman. You know, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.240 there's a lot of questions about the rose Gold community. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:14.320 Proper terminology, it is the rose Gold community. You feel 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:19.080 me in the lack there is a soul. You guys 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.239 have monopolized soul at the expense of alre even being 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.600 able to have a soul in general. That is true. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.160 But you know what, whenever people talk about soul, they 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.040 speak about it in the darkest sense of the time, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.880 like the darker you're told is and last he sees 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.280 with so much soul, or if your food is a 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.920 little darker, it's just soul food. It's just but like 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.680 soul in that context when usually when people talk about 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.840 their soul it's kind of morbid and negative, like the 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.360 great beyond and death and all that ship. But like, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.000 you guys have a positive if you have soul, it's 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.880 like a positive or it's like if you have a soul, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.959 it's like a bare minimum. You know. For me, it's like, oh, yeah, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.280 you're not gonna stop on a bunch of kittens. But 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.680 you guys have soul. It's like, oh man, they that 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.480 guy's got so that's great. Speaking of media, I think 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.519 that is the soul. And don't I'm not an atheist. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.960 I'm a religious person, but I think the soul and 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.320 the marketing of your soul, this whole heaven and health concept, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.800 all of it is just marketing. It's just good marketing. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.359 I just honestly believe it's all good marketing that we've 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.280 been sold because like, what is the like, what is 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.360 the soul? What is your soul? That's my personal question. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.960 I just feel like it's marketed. Is like this this 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.720 inner being like the force kind of. Instead they just 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:47.600 call it soul. I've been on this podcast and noted 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:53.920 to say that the greatest marketing meeting ever was the 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.880 gathering you know, the Counsel of Nicia UM. I don't 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.960 know if you know what that is, right TPS. It's 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.560 when all the different popes and spiritual and religious men 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:11.920 came together in Europe and decided how Christianity was going 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.280 to proceed. At that point, it's like look it up 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:20.400 once we jump off hundreds of men that came together 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:25.120 and decided how we would view Jesus Christ and Christianity. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.200 So when you're saying that, it's not like a new 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:33.080 idea that a lot of the ways we view because 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.159 religion is definedest just a belief in God. But we 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.240 talk about different disciplines as if they are religion when 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:45.520 reality they're just more practices and ideas. Um. But the 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.120 counsel and I see how I've been on records saying 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.760 it's the greatest marketing meeting in the history of mankind 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.920 because determined how billions of people would live their life, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.840 you know, I mean per per per generation, not at 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.760 like at that time, you gotta think we're talking we're 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.320 talking about this point. We might be talking about hundreds 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.080 of billions of people that have been on this earth 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:20.360 right and somehow came through Christianity, Christianity and Catholicism. Yeah, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.719 says the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental or Orthodox Church, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.839 Assyrian Church of the East, Ancient Church of the East, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.159 the Anglican Communion, and Lutheranism all accepted the whatever it 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.640 came from this conference. That's that's like, that's like a 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.960 supreme unification of Like that's almost like the NFL getting 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:46.000 the AFL. And and they met for like weeks. It 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.560 wasn't like, you know, a convention for like a couple 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.440 of days. It was like weeks to decide this. And 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.159 one of the main stories is one of the first 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.840 people to establish a mass gathering of Jesus Christ was 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:06.120 a priest out of Africa, priest arias right, so priests 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:12.280 aria excuse me, priest Arias and um. He believed in 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.320 theory almost all of the same ideas except he believed 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.760 God was by himself and Jesus was his son. And 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:25.760 the separation between where he had his mass following, believing 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.640 in and practicing versus where the Council was heading. The 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.359 Council was heading into what we call the Holy Trinity, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.400 where the Holy Spirit, God and Jesus are of one entity, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:43.560 one energy, and they actually kicked him out and actually 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.919 put out horrible media on him to kill. His following 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:53.040 were the African followers of areas called the Arians Loki. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.360 It's important that you know that see something that they 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.880 actually were. They were called Arians. It's some of this 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.919 ship that these people flip around like the Nazi symbol. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.479 It's a lot of spiritual belief or religious base to 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.000 what's going on. People just don't know. That's why you 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.680 gotta be real careful what you fuck with and what 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.000 you say and what you respond with. No seilings g 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.360 low a man Peter Boss in his spits not and 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:25.200 I got my partner um almost like a resident guest. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.720 Even though he's not always on. We have to use 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.080 him a lot more this season. Man t p J 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.440 from one of my favorite podcasts. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.200 But he's such a brilliant man, so I don't want 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.840 to condemn him to just the sports. He has a 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.640 wide range of views on multiple things. So thanks for 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.200 fucking with his TV. No Man thank you for inviting 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.120 me on. I actually I enjoy listening to the conversations 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.720 you guys have because, um, I just like how pointed 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.160 they are. You know, um, usually it's you guys are 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.200 sticking on one subject versus a lot of the people 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.040 they jump around. So I like, how you know in 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.400 that y'all conversations are and and a lot of the 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.920 times I wind up thinking about the stuff you'll talk 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.200 about afterwards, just because it was so heavily focused on 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.680 one thing. And I don't know if you'll understand it, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.080 but like it because you all focused on my subject 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.480 every episode, it's always points were afterwards, I'm like, that's interesting. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.320 I might live with that conversation for a day. So 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.520 shout out to you. That's appreciate that a lot. Say 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.840 that again, Pete, I said, that's very cool. I appreciate 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.880 it a lot. Shout out the big still even though 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:33.760 he ain't here because people cut. It's funny because still 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.240 like so when he first got in the podcast right 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.040 and started to taking on his journey and media like 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.840 he was talking to me about it in two thousands, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.080 I didn't even know what podcast bold. I'm like, first 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.360 of all, I don't want to be a part of 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.840 the media, Like I don't like that part of you 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.400 know what I mean? Like I respect media because I 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.040 think it's a still position requires a lot of research, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.240 a lot of work. But obviously we were in today's 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:06.160 time there. Motherfucker just started YouTube and they aren't considered media. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.719 For mean, I was just reading and ship it's been 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.840 popping up, popping up over the last month. You know 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.920 where party B food, this lady named Tasha because I 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.640 guess the statement she's making about Party B was slanderous 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:31.400 and untruth and hilarious claims. What's the claim? So I 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.920 didn't I didn't see the claims, So you gotta tell 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.000 me what in around about nature? She she didn't like 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.560 the story she was posting about her, and she felt 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.360 like they were selacious in nature and damage into her business, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.360 and that's why she suited her. Which is the interesting 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.440 part about America and marketing and media because journalists usually 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.320 are like kind of kept out of that whole like 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.360 lawsuit thing in terms of suing for like slander and 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.400 stuff like that. But now with these logs and these 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.120 bloggers acting like personalities, now, it kind of like makes 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.280 it way easier for them to get suthed with what 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.080 they say, because your account it's not really like they 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.200 I guess the celebrities were arguing, like, well, your account 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.000 is not really an account, it's really like your your 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.000 personal brand and feelings. If you're reporting these things about me, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.679 it's not true and you're harming my brand. I'ssuing you. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.600 But I honestly think all this stuff is her trying 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.120 to make an example out of her and scare everybody 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.560 else that might want to post anything that might be 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.800 negative about her. What what were they do? You know, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.560 the claims peak the claims in the article that we 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.600 read that they were malicious defamation claims that she was 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.400 a processute, she used cocaine, and she had herpes. Now, 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:47.079 the first two don't seem particularly like they had the 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.000 metal to hold up in court. The third one you 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:57.000 can't bring because of hip hop, you could you can't 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.800 be compelled to bring medical documentation into a courtroom of 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:07.040 any kind, regardless of the accusation. So yeah, I mean, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.720 it's strange also that she's a YouTuber section to thirty 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.760 of that federal law you know, protecting YouTube. Being serious, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.520 she couldn't go for the big bucks you can't sue YouTube, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.600 but you can sue YouTuber, which is, yeah, it's weird. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.560 I used to manage YouTube is I used to work 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.360 at a media company called full Screen. It's no longer round, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.800 but I managed thousands of YouTubers and influences over over 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.360 the years. And um, I remember when like, uh, you know, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.400 people don't remember this, but there was a time on 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.920 YouTube where you know, these prank channels were really big. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.960 So a lot of these guys, these white guys, started 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.640 doing a bunch of like racist pranks. But I helped 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.079 to like build with this with like the software engineer 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.079 who's like a mathematical genius or whatever. Helped him to 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.719 build this algorithm in our network, along with some other 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.400 people that are like surface the videos that are popping 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.680 in our network so we'll be able to talk to 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.760 our creators when the videos pop. Right, all these do 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.000 start doing these crazy racist pranks, all of those ships 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.480 started popping. As the manager, we were all like, yo, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.439 take these down, because like you don't want to get 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.240 sued by the people in the video because usually they 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.080 didn't blur their faces out and all the all the 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.560 other kind of stuff. So it's funny that like We 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.319 were saying that back then about just like the performing 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.240 pranks on people, But people spend their time on YouTube. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.280 I do it too with the basketball stuff. We just 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.319 talked about these guys for hours on end, and they 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.480 can't say anything about it. I don't think they should 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.960 be allowed to sue us, But I do think that, like, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.080 there is a responsibility that comes with having a platform 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.360 that a lot of people in media don't realize because 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.760 they just think it's like a social media page. For sure. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.760 I mean, there was a Supreme Court case that had 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.280 to do with the you know, the public figure clause, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.640 so to speak um with you like somewhat familiar with 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.840 where you if someone's public form, you can kind of 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.360 say whatever it's it's It's a much higher standard than 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:04.080 the you know, like my neighbor was spreading rumors around 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:08.960 the building about me, you know, like that's easy. Yeah, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.400 But I think a lot of it cuts down to 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.679 the fact that like Pasha k doesn't have you know, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.120 Disney money, that somebody on ABC News has to yeah, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.000 drag it out and morton take the action out of 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:29.440 the room. You ain't got a conglomerate behind it. Yeah, Okay, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.720 let's say let's go back to Cardi B stripper days. Mhm. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.559 Let's say some guys said, hey, Cardi B, I got 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.480 two rags for you, let me take you home. So, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:51.400 in other words, we're discussing a normal shift. Well, I 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.320 don't know if it's normal. I'm not gonna just gonna 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.679 whoop your as if they if you start calling them 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:05.600 all prostitutes whatever. I know, I'm aware that club, and 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.560 I know damn well that at one thirty in the 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.079 morning when that big tipper comes through, that big money 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.680 comes up, and that's that's happened, and they brag about it. Hey, look, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.120 just don't say it was five for her, because it 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.360 was five thou As long as you line up about 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.760 the value of the pussy, they're not going to complain. Okay. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.400 So let's say, right one of these nights, Cardi B 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:33.640 took the two thousand, and let's say Tasha finds the guy. Right, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.760 Tasha finds the guy who paid her two thousand, Yes, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.080 and then she gets him to come to court. Is 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:47.360 the case dismissed. No, because you can't technically disproved that 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.880 she didn't use coke or that she has her face. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.320 But okay, what if what if you have a video 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.000 of maybe she's at a party and she did a line, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.600 can't do the herpoes. Yeah, I don't know if they 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.480 would let that slide. But how do the courts know 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.840 she was not a prostitute and she's never done a line? 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:17.520 Burden of proof, So it's up to you to prove it. Yeah, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.720 it's up to you to prove that she didn't because 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.200 you're essentially the accuser at that point. So if you 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.080 don't have the proof, whether she did or not, you 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.280 don't have the proof, which is why if you didn't 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.200 do that ship, you're like, Yo, what the fund is 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.640 wrong with you? Yeah, but I don't think that if 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.400 you didn't do it, I don't think that's in particular situation. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.840 I mean, also, I'm not gonna lie somebody claiming I 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.880 got diseases. Gee, you might have to see me too. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:46.400 I'm sorry. You know what. I think we're just saying, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.880 like fun all of the other ship, Like that's like 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.560 fucking medical business out of this ship, and then we 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.120 won't have no problems with media. Remember, I agree, right, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.920 But I I think we're living in the space that's 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.880 a weird space for you know. Um, they're not millennial today, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:10.560 what are they today? Okay, generation zoo right, because as 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.400 wild as a motherfucker right, like where they feel like 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.880 they can say what they want to say and have 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.240 no accountability, Like I witnessed it privately where I'm dealing 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.320 with younger people or people that's on the internet and 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.960 they like seeing anything, right, they'll say whatever, like any 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.080 type of disrespect. And they grow up in this realm 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.080 right where the medium makes them, where the media makes 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.120 them think it's okay. It's like, well, they're told if 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.760 you don't put your hands on somebody, I mean, they 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.880 can't do nothing to you. And that's just silly. That's 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.360 the one. But this is we also had his argument 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.800 all time, because you do things where you know you're 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.080 gonna get a reaction out of it. And I understand 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.280 that there's a certain level of respect that people should 0:16:55.320 --> 0:17:00.120 operate with, but let's not act like you didn't. You 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.120 didn't like you know, you didn't, you didn't done some 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.720 stuff in your career for marketing purposes that was gonna 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.560 piss people off. Half of y'all, half of these conversations 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.440 you do because you know they're gonna piss people off. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:15.840 So people, but it's certain last people shouldn't cross like 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.320 the personal distance hect. I haven't seen people make physical 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.560 threats towards you, So I feel you on that. But 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.320 a lot of the times, you know, you don't get 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.320 a reaction when you tweet that. Yeah, but in my line, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.760 is that the point though? That's always the point out 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.760 of it? If I say Pete, right, if I say Pete, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.440 you're white, and Pete is like, fuck you. You You know 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.840 I didn't want you to tell people I was white, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.320 Like it's not obvious? Am I really big? You know 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.760 how I do what I do? Right? Asked? And I 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.680 understand why media covers what I do. You know why 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.760 because my job right as a West Coast gangster rapper 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.399 is to tell the truth unapologetically. Right. You have a 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.520 huge sector of hip hop that's just telling lies, right, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.240 and they're leading people down the wrong path because they 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.800 have no idea what the funk they're talking about. And 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.520 then you have glasses low right and glasses alone. It's like, Hey, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.160 this is the truth. Hey, this is how Tupac got 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.840 dot this is how Tupac died. This is the mind 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.800 state of the people involved in the situation here it 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.320 is directly the truth. Like I'm not altering it. I'm 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.360 not giving your perspective. I'm not doing anything to even 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.920 make you go wild to where we come from. So 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.399 like that because you you this is see, this is 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.240 what this is part of the issue because you're saying 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.640 that undermines your intelligence when we know that you're not unintelligent. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:46.160 So you can't make how does it undermine Because because 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.720 you don't how the truth doesn't mean that you aren't 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:54.080 using them for marketing purposes to help disseminate your message 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.280 through the media that you know gonna report on the 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.320 stuff you say. But isn't the truth? But but ain't 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.560 that the whole point of the truth? Right? But everybody 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:08.080 can say that it's the truth, the truth. Everybody can't 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.520 say it's the truth. Everybody it's the truth. It can't 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.080 be a troll if it's the truth. It can be 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.320 definitely can be a troll. That's the truth. It's definitely 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.440 could be a troll, only if you're kicking the dead 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:28.480 only if you're kicking a dead horse. But trolls liars. Yes, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:33.200 trolls are liars, every last one of them, or they're stalkers. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:41.000 They might be yes, not necessarily listen. I've never been 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.080 on the internet and contempeted someone in life, like I'm 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.560 not going to tweet you more than once. You have 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.680 to tweet me like, I'm not gonna But it's still 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.040 the truth. Though, if they if they tweeting you, if 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.240 they say your glasses, I don't like, I don't like 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.120 anything you do, but they tweet you that all day, 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.720 they might be trolling you, but it's still their truth. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.560 And they're doing it because they know that people are 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.120 gonna see it and react to it, and then nobody 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.760 something something people to follow that person, and I'm going 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.080 to retreat it so everybody can see it. I'm gonna 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.520 give the ship that they want. But you also know 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.120 it's good marketing for you. Like my brand, my our 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.239 basketball brand was built off of making people angry at 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.560 what we say because all you have to do. My 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.160 brand is rooted in telling the truth because everybody wants 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.720 to avoid the truth. But that's not everybody. And that's 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.760 the part of the problem with the media is not 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.600 everybody's brand is rooted in truth. Some people just want 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.679 to see you out here funked up. I don't want 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.200 to see nobody fucked up. Yeah, but if you're going 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.399 out also listening reactions all the time, you also know 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.920 that you're gonna get some reactions. Yeah, but if it's 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.399 the truth, what do you want? What do you want 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.960 a human being to do? Right? If he can't tell 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.800 the truth, it's okay. Do you have to go on 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:02.560 the internet? Though you say I said all the time 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:06.359 in the barbershop, I'll say it in person. I said 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.439 on Twitter, like there's no place I won't say it 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.359 like it usually come from the barbershop. The funk up 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.919 part is everything that I made content about, right, and 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.399 that the media reports on the conversation that happened in 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:26.440 the barbershop. Great problem Not only is you know it's 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:31.280 it's a level of art that makes comfortable people uncomfortable 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:35.159 and it brings comfort to the uncomfortable. It also is 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:40.120 very much private conversations and urban communities held publicly. Like 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.919 somebody could say I'm trolling Kim Kardashian, right because I 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.320 made the song Kanye should have never married that bitch, 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.280 or they can say you're trolling Kanye. No, this is 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.800 the conversation that T PJ is having in the barbershop. 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.960 This is the conversation Pete is having in the barbershop. 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.920 Glasses is just telling Kanye West, Hey, this is what 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.560 we think in the barbershop. Hey Kim, this is what 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.439 the marketing campaign but through a marketing campaign. People in 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.040 a barbershop don't need a marketing campaign. They just speaking 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.359 the truth. I don't have a marketing campaign. I just 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:18.639 dropped a song and it's marketable. The truth, it's marketable. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.520 You don't think the cover played into the marketing of 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.600 the song. Sure, I thought I thought it was PG 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.120 that you that would have been ray J's It could 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.600 have been ray J's penis. But this is the But 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.879 this is my point with you. You know it it's 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:45.199 somebody's pence or it's a cartoon of similarly complexion person 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.399 sucking at eggplaning g like you know that's gonna garner 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.840 a reaction and also the marketing behind it, a reaction 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.880 from you getting somebody to make this ship. So did 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:02.000 a reaction, which it actually has been. That's but that's 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.639 not But you didn't that the name that song is 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:09.840 that actually happened? Is it not true? That's your opinion, 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.879 though anything you wanted at that time, you chose that 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.720 what do you know it's it's not it's again. Listen, 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.840 I'm being to understand the song is not about that. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.440 The song is the song title. As with the Tupac, 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.560 song is a conceptual piece. It's really meant to make 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.160 you think. And then when you listen to the song, 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.720 it's all right, cool, I I get. It's a different 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.040 message than what the title of the song is. No, 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.119 no give You have just named that song that bitch, 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.320 and nobody would have thought anything about it. But you 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:45.600 wanted to start a conversation through I wanted to pass 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.960 a message at the highest levels. See my my ideas 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.560 start off as simple ideas. Right, this is all I've 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.760 been doing since I got in the hip hop right, 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.920 And the relationship with what I do in media is 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.640 I could tell the same exact or ten times I've 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:06.040 told the same gang banger cautionary tale. Ten times. I 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.320 told a story with me and Jay rockets in the 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.000 song and I got killed. There's a song you would 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.920 go look at the video on YouTube. It's called no Sympathy. 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.400 I get killed and somebody in Jay Rock gets revenge 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.080 for the fact you were just giving false helpe to 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.920 the haters. And then you burst their bubble when you 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.320 show up on the internet the next day. I just 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.920 think people are looking at it like again, first reaction, 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.359 they're they're they're not listening to what's going on. The 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.000 art is too much, right, just like looking at the 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:44.480 Mona Leasta thinking it's art. Just because I don't concede 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.720 to the two people who look at things surfacely doesn't 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.080 mean that my intentions is to fool them. My intention 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.720 question is why is your art too much? Like it's 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.200 not too much? It's perceived in the manner in which 0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.359 you wanted to be perceived, because you orchestra rated it 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:04.720 to to to evoke that sense of truth that you 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.639 say it is like, I mean, see if like you 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.080 just made a song, you uploaded it, and then somebody 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.480 gave the song that name. But once you made the 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.920 song and you gave the song that name, and then 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.840 you made the album cover, the piece of art that 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.200 you wanted to subject people to was gonna inherently make 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.320 them want to dive really deep and think about it. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:33.760 And I think so. But I'm gonna tell you why 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.280 I disagree with that. Right And even the media helps 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:43.240 people misunderstand because they're all intellectually lazy, like two Popmas 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.000 Die is about the mind state of the person you're 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:50.040 watching a video through eyes. Nobody really pays attention to that, 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.080 so everybody felt like that was just listen. Everybody's like, 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.400 all you're trolling or he's click bait. They're not realizing 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.199 the person who's watching the video. I'm putting you in 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.359 the mind. I'm letting you see the world from their eyes. 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.400 That's why the video is shotting first person. Again, the 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.880 depth of my content is confusing, but this is the 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.320 only way I can still be deep and make something 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.320 that the regular average person can get a bar of, 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.920 because if if not, I'm going to make something entirely 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.480 too deep, it's going to skip past the media, so 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.840 the media doesn't have to report on it, which means 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:32.800 the fans miss it. Point you are a master marketers. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:40.040 It is market but it's not marketing, like just no, 0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.680 he's marketing to you right now. No, but but he's 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.240 not marketing what Kanye does right, specifically to the media. 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.240 He understands he's a complex person who wears his emotions 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.360 on his sleeve. Right, so when he's not releasing content, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.480 he's not talking to you. He's not allowing you to 0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.960 hear his thoughts. He's not. He's not even going back 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.760 and forth with you. Right. When he starts to make 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:08.440 pieces of content, shoes, art, anything, he allows you into 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:13.439 his mind. That's what great artists do. He's not really 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:17.919 like marketing, like literally he's taking so normally he blocks 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.440 you away from all of this ship he's thinking all 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.480 the crazy ship cousins thinking. He blocks the media away, 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.959 keeps the paparazzi away from his house because he doesn't 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.080 want that. Then, so then that's why spells go without 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.720 No Kanye, right. But then when it's time to release 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.520 Donda two, he allows you into his mental space, which 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:43.760 is not it's marketing. It's not. It's amazing marketing. It is. Listen, 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.240 it's marketing. You just show up one day and be 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.640 like yo, I'm back on Twitter and in a tweet. 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.840 It's not marketing. You all here from me for another 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.920 three years. It's not marketing. To me, it's not marketing, 0:27:54.960 --> 0:28:00.480 it's market a bowl. Marketing, right, is a much a 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.600 preconceived idea, right in order to gain people's interests. Right, 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.840 you want to gain people interest in something. That's what 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.399 marketing really reflects right. Promotion is me telling you whatever 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.280 the story about what I'm talking about. Publicity is somebody 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.240 else telling your story. Advertising is paying for the story 0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:20.240 to be told. Kanye literally just moves the gate as 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.320 he's about to release content and the things he do, right, 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.600 it's marketable. So Tupac must die, right, I put you 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.480 in the face, right, I put you in his head. 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.880 I'll let you see how it is to be one 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.960 of us. That was his mind state once he got jumped, Right, 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.960 That's why he thought Tupac must die. It's not like 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.440 it's it's more than marketing. Right, marketing I could I've 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.400 read books on marketing for like six months, and you 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.400 know what, I realized it really was telling the story. 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.800 So the thing is, do I know little things? Sure? 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.400 I know some things, right. I know you want to 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.160 draw a line in the sand and throw rocks at 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.400 everybody on the other side. But I'm not throwing rocks 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.280 at Kanye. I'm not throwing rocks at Chloe. I'm not 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.280 marketing to you. I'm giving you a cultural listen. I'm 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.720 telling you the truth. I'm not bushing. I'm giving you 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.880 a cultural lesson. In West Coast hip hop, that you 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.240 can't turn a hole into a housewife. And then I 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.239 told the most important person in the culture because he 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.800 tried to turn a hole into a housewife, that's marketable. 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.160 I'm not marketing ship to you. I'm giving you something 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.880 marketable because you know it's true. You know Kim as 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.080 a whole and you know Kanye try to turn her 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.120 into a housewife. Now, whether you agree or not on 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.360 the cultural lesson of West Coast gangster rap and hip 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.000 hop that you can or can't turn onto a hip 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.160 hop Some people think you can, but that's the point. 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.280 Some people don't think it's right to be a crib 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.960 and may have to take a life to survive. You 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.760 know where we're at. That's the point of it. I'm 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.360 introducing you into culture further, and I'm passing the information 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.760 right to the most successful people that's in the culture 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.120 because I think they were avoided. So me one last 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:16.640 question on that. When you finished my question is all right, cool, 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.200 So you change if you change the name of the 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.080 song to something that does not have his name, Like 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.760 I said, you just name the song that bitch, right, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.480 Do the same lessons that you're trying to get across 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.440 still come across No, listen, No, that's what they do. 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:38.920 They do. But but the specific markets behind what you 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.600 did was like, I'm gonna give asking me questions, I'm 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.400 gonna answer the question. Go ahead, you said, it's the 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.480 same lessons there. Yes, but it's not marketable if you 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.840 just name it that bitch that again, it is marketable, right, 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.960 is it as marketable? No, because you know why you're 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.200 passing information and onto deaf ears. Nobody knows who you're 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.880 talking about. Nobody knows who's a hole. You're not even 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.320 separating who's a whole and who's not. At that point, 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.640 everybody is left to speculation. And this song, specifically with 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.959 that title, I told you who the biggest hole in 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:22.520 the game was that somebody tried to wipe Now again right, 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.720 a whole don't mean it's a prostitute. So no disrespect 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.960 to Kim. I'm sure she still feels disrespected. I'm sorry 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.360 this is his wife. But again, brother, this is an 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.320 important and it's a cautionary tale. What's happening. The reason 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.640 you're going through all this ship with this lady, with 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.240 this white lady, you feel me, is because of this ship. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.440 It's because she already weaponized her vagina. That's what makes 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.959 her a hole. And she's weaponized her vagina to the 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.640 highest level that we've ever seen in our lifetime. And 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.480 on top of that and that she is now completely 0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.000 degraded the name Pete at bringing a Pete into the equation. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:06.000 This funk up the whole situation for my life. For 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:10.520 no white dude named Pete at this moment, no disrespect 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.760 disrespects has been taken Pete. Right now, white Pezza is popping. 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.600 And by the way, y'all win in y'are not losing 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:24.040 white pizzas popping? Yeah, but honestly the honestly yes, y'all 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.360 are how you eat going to war with a comedian 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.880 you will never win period. But now every other person 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.360 in the city has white Pete must die as the 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:40.200 song blaring in their car. No, it's not true. Nobody 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.440 actually nobody outside of Kanye wants anything to happen to Pete. 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.520 But maybe not that Pete. This Pete has a target 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.560 is back for the past fifteen years and by some 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.600 other random Pete. But now the media is making it 0:32:54.680 --> 0:33:00.920 sweet to be a white Pete and not you the victim. 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:05.960 Now you are in and they keep talking about that 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.280 white man Dick's eye, no kind of crazy said you 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.200 might get some pussy. You might need to say past 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.920 the pussy I've ever gotten in my life was just 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.600 out of curiosity on the half of the other woman. 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.400 So now that's going to be four times the opportunities 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:25.560 thanks to the media reporting on white Pete, White Pete Jr. 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:31.640 Because you're the first white Pete. He's not from anybody 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.800 else in the media at this point. But I again, listen, 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:41.720 do I think is again? Do I think Kanye is marketing? No? 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.719 I think Kanye is marketable, and I think Kanye allows 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.400 himself to be pure Kanye so you can market it. 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.160 That's the thing, Like you know what you were saying, 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.719 You think I'm I'm marketing right, and I'm not. What 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.520 I realized was the only way you can really make 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.720 your more in hip hop right and have the media 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.720 support you is to be the purest version of who 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.560 you are. When I'm saying sure, I mean sure, like 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:17.759 unapologetically sure glasses no whoever I am like when the 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.280 cameras off, I have to be that version in front 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.919 of the camera. So I got a real I think 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:32.200 it's the true, Like I'm gonna say that I can 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:33.959 take us down a rabbit hole, but I'm not gonna 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:38.600 do that. But go ahead real quick. Um, I was 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.719 on a call. I'm muted by stuff. I don't want 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.640 to participate it, but I was glasses of fifty today 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.919 we're on the phone, but like a half hour talking 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.240 about stuff that fifty made some really good points about 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.279 hip hop. He was saying, like when you know all 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.719 three or whatever, when his first album came out, you know, 0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.480 he got super famous just being himself, a guy from 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:06.799 the hood, from Queens with the all of it, and 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.960 he goes the thing he learned about all the like 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.520 all the suburban white fans liked his music along with 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.600 everybody else from the Queens, and the choice of the 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.880 world that did as well. Was like he was the 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:25.360 embodiment of taking risks that people who has something to 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.960 lose wouldn't take. You you couldn't rationalize taking the risk 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.680 that he would take, you know, as most people in 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:36.080 a random audience, it's a general curve of the population distribution. 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.560 That was pretty pretty a stupid to pick up on that. 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.279 It's true, and I agree with you that a lot 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:47.200 of hip hop is about being like unapologetically willing to 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:53.560 just go pursue regardless of risk or consequences, and a 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.799 lot of that there's a lot of controversy built into 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.240 that because it's it's an abnormal, um, you know, behavior 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.520 for the relationships. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Like 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.080 I mean, even with our podcasts like we were, we 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.680 were the first YouTube podcast on the sports channel. We 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.080 have a YouTube channel with one point five billion views 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.319 and one point nine million subscribers. And I remember when 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.480 I was working at a job still, while I was 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.839 working on it, as it was like getting taken off, 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.760 people were like telling me that I was like crazy, 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.000 and I was just like, no, I'm not crazy. Like, bro, 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.400 you're on the internet, you're screaming, you're cursing, and you're 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.759 drinking beer, and you're still working in corporate America. I said, yeah, 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.799 but is the work not done? You need me to leave? 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.960 You want me to leave? No? We good? All right, 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.040 then keep doing what you're doing. But with that also, 0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.600 I think the best marketers usually don't have to think 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.759 about it. They just marketed. Like I think, I think 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.080 even when we talk about like religion and stuff, like, 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.600 I think people that are good inherently at disseminating a message, 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.879 don't have to focus on disseminating their message because their 0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.000 message is constant. It's like me, like, if you know 0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.640 me personally, you know what I'm out and I don't 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.800 have I don't walk around saying I work hard on 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.680 the hardest, working in the room whatever. People just see 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.600 me work and they see the outfit of how it 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.680 goes and they're like, yo, this is who you are. 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.200 But that's a part of my brain and it's not marketed. 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.600 It's just genuine. But my brand is loud, is being 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:19.600 a loud, brash and working hard. Yeah. But but but 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.800 that But that's my point. And I think again, like 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.640 because because I have been somebody in media has said that, 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:36.520 do do I think that? Um? Do I think that 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.600 I'm I'm I'm going too far for attention And I'm like, 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:47.000 I'm just being me like anybody who knows me, whether 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.680 it's a mic or not, this ship is pretty one 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.600 hund I don't do nothing extra when this ship come on. 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.040 If if if we're talking sports right and I'm on 0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.640 your podcast right participating from a media perspective, and I'm like, yo, 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.680 uh Zayon Williamson is huge, Like his his so big, 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.040 his jersey looks like a g unit tank top. Like, bro, 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.080 look at his jersey and then you'll be like, yo, 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.279 it does for me. Now, I'm not saying I'm not like, oh, 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.160 he's a fatast nicky. I'm not like, even when I 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.680 made Tupac Must Die, I never said, Yo, this dude 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.839 is a buster or fucking bitch. I didn't say none 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.240 of that with with Kanye should have never married that bitch. Honestly, 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.719 I didn't really say anything crazy about Kim. Really. The 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.480 whole song addresses Kim to some degree, but it's all 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.200 pretty much thing she did. It's all the facts she 0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.080 does have plastic surgery, it's all the fact she is 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.759 weaponizing the vagina. It is the fact that, yea, she 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.960 did all of these things before you, and it's gonna 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.479 be hard to change who she is. And it's very 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.680 much exactly what it is. Like, I'm not saying that's 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:57.080 why I don't get like you have a hundred rappers 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.399 who media support, Right. I was looking at it because 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.399 I just dropped Kanye should have never married that bit, 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.839 and my whole plight with media and and and so 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.799 when you put out a song, right, TP like a playlist. 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:13.680 Playlist thing is referred to as editorials right, and editorials 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.920 is pretty much one of the top three ways people 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:23.839 discover music today, right, playlist, editorials. Right. So I went 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:28.040 to people and I pitched the song for editorials. Some 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.399 people was like, man, I want to get involved because 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.840 I don't want you to be mad at me or 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.560 yaker trip, this, that and the third. For me again, 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:42.360 it's like wearing a space to where everybody scared to 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:46.040 just be pure. They won't let hip hop be pure. 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.840 And it was always like that. N w A stayed 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.160 out account, I mean, for the police didn't get support. 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.719 It's a lot of times it didn't get support, and 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.000 a lot of the different content initially didn't get support 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.920 because people were scared. But that's what great hip hop was. 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.000 And now hip hop is being presided over by people 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.719 that are comfortable. See when hip hop first in this inception, 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.560 you know, the eighties and early nineties, it was still 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.160 people in the culture of all you know, a part 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.600 of it, so they didn't mind taking the risk. Now 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.960 we're in two thousand and twenty two. I had a 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.520 dude say, man, I want to interview you write a 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.600 media man said he wanted to interview me, but he's 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.839 worried about the LGBT lashback because of the tweet outbreak, 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:29.680 or that he didn't call it out. But he said 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.520 the tweet exchange I had with with a little nos 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:38.120 X I talked about because I talked about being authentic 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.440 and men your true self. We had an argument on 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.000 the phone about that. I said, what if that's just 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.560 his true self? But you don't like it because you 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.399 feel like it's marketing. No, it's it's not, it's not 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.279 it's not his true self. See. The thing is, when 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.799 something is real, you can sniff it and see. This 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.240 is the thing about my gifts. It sound crazy. Everybody 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.080 don't have it. That's why I could tell you YEA 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.520 is not trying. I can sniff it, you could feel it. 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.239 It's something you could feel. Little Nozas realized he had 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.399 hits and took advantage of it. That's why his music 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.200 is coming across. That's why his music is coming across. 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.080 Corny at times. See the Little Brother not a corny person. 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.759 He understands people like corny. He understands that you can't 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:22.080 condemn art because of your speaking his truth. Well, it's 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.359 it's not a truth, right, it's a it's also a 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.600 thing made to sell records. It's also a thing made 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:32.280 to rally people behind you. But Pete, this is my question. 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.359 I want, I want to ask Pete this question. But 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.399 because obviously we know what he thinks. Do you think 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.560 that little nos X is sheerly marketing and none of 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.920 that is his truth and it's all the marketing campaign 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:47.600 or do you think that the marketing campaign is supplemented 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.560 by what is actually his truth? Because we saw the 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.160 version of him where he claims it wasn't his truth, 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.799 which gave you the one of the biggest songs to 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:01.080 ever live. Then he completely changes his marketing and goes 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.960 to living his truth, and now it's perceived as marketing 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.640 what you're saying, as I asked Pete Glasses. I asked 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.840 Pete because I want to know what you think about MMM. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.279 I think that that guy, you can be honest, I 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:26.160 don't have so no truth, no truth. I think there's 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.480 some more so the bigger that he gets. But I 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:37.160 think that truthfully, yeas he becomes like having his critical masks, 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.120 he's like too big to fail us a little bit 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.080 you get a little bit more of it, but to this, 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.719 to that point, to get there, he was just like, 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.759 I'm just saying whatever I gotta say. However I gotta 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:52.239 say it. Okay. That's unfortunate because then it means he's 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.520 stuck in the world of being like a media whatever 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.719 because he gotta do whatever. The media is is looking 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.920 at us being hot. Which is the interesting part for 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.200 me about media with all these young artists, and I 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.600 could get why editorial person might not say that, but 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.279 also this is part of the thing, like I know 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:11.799 in your glasses, I would have thought you would have 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.840 thought about the editorial before you name a song. Kanye 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:16.960 should have never married that bitch. Of course I did. 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.879 But my nuts is bigger than everybody else. I respect that. 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.440 So that's that's why I'm telling you it's not marketing 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.759 because I knew what I would sacrifice and editorials and 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.680 kick back when I did. To problem must die every 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.360 time I tell the truth. I understand what comes with it. 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.960 That's why I know I'm not marketing. For me, it's 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.920 no marketing because I know for sure I'm going to 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.800 lose something in publicity. I had the last two songs 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.439 I released, I haven't been able to run ads on them. 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:53.600 It won't even let me advertise them. I know this 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.799 is going to happen. I know when I make the 0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:00.839 cover of Kim eating a egg plant, right, they're not 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:02.840 going to let me advertise that. I know when I 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.359 make two pop mus die, They're not going to let 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.920 me advertise that. I know I'm going to lack in 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:12.040 editorials in a publicity space. I know media, certain radio 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.080 stations are going to rally against me. I'm not marketing 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.399 the fact it's marketable because it is the truth. Polarity 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:30.600 creates power. I'm a I'm a powerful human being, period. 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:35.200 So when I start to generate my art, true art right, 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.799 it's powerful. But I'm not marketing because I know I'm 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.359 cutting everything off. I'm cutting a lot of ship off 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:46.799 and I know it, and you knew. I knew it 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.720 because I could tell you. I said when we talked 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.759 about Kanye should never married that, But I said, I'm 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.960 not gonna be to run ads on this when I'm like, 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.680 I'm like, they're not going to take certain at a toilet. 0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:02.560 That's not my job. My job is to create devastatingly truth, 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:09.160 devastating truth reflecting art right at the highest levels. Rooted 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.520 in the culture that I have the most information and 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.040 wisdom in right, which is this West Coast gang banging 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.200 street life I have. I'm an expert at this ship. 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.000 I've literally studied it and kept my wits on the 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.680 smoke sham. I got all the brain cells how to 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:29.319 smoke weed, ain't drinking no alcohol. I saw it all 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.680 and asked questions of it all. So what I didn't 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.000 understand about other people, I figured it out because I 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.919 asked them enough times. My job is to generate that 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:42.600 to the media into the public. Are they going to 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:47.040 accept it? No? Can I make something to accept? Hell? Yeah, 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.480 I can make something that good. They accepted it. I 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:56.919 knew exactly they would. We we we Me, DJ Head, 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:03.799 Tommy Gunns, jymnays Peru, Todd Dollarson, C. Baling contrived that 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.759 whole idea and knew we could make the public move 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:11.320 to that. It became my biggest song period. That was 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.359 good marketing. That's mark we marketed then. And I didn't 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.319 know ship about marketing. I just knew people like pussy, 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.799 and if I made a song about getting pussy, it 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.960 would make sense. Now, A quick question. You you called 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.240 me one day and you said time, I've been studying 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.000 music and I figured out what I need to, like, like, 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.480 what's the next evolution? Because we were just talking and 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:32.680 he was like, and what I need to do with 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.719 my art? And I'm trying to basically saying that. How 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.759 he was moving in a different direction. So it's your 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.359 new concept now to only be living in truth and 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:45.120 be anti marketing to market what again? Because you still 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.520 want some level of marketing, you still want people to 0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.680 see it. So is now is it just the point 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.239 of I'm gonna be so brash, you're gonna see it, 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.640 and and like, I don't know, does that make sense? 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.040 I feel like people feel that we two of its 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.760 movies where they're like, I like watching them, but sometimes 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.680 people will argue against them being gratuitous. But sometimes the 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.360 filmmaker is using the gratuitous nature of murder or whatever 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:15.359 it may be to prove a point. No, right, So 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.200 so there's a little part of that that makes sense, 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.320 But the main part of it, let me just wrap 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.279 that whole ship up right, because it is a relationship 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:31.120 with the media, right. The reality is traditionally West Coast 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.480 hip hop a k a. Gangster rap has only worked 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:40.200 when it's been truthful and unapologetic. When it's been pure like, 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:44.160 when you're being purely you, that's your greatest chance to 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.360 be successful. So what you see me doing now was 0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:53.080 being purely me, purely like no cuts. Yeah in my 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.759 top five love yea with all my heart. Have no 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.520 problem with Kim, no personal problem outside of the fact 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.400 she's one of the worst role models for the women today. 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.680 You know what I'm saying, Like generally, but I wouldn't 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.040 make a song like fun Kim Kardashian or fuck Chloe. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.160 I'm not. I'm not vested in them holes like that. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.600 Just not what I realized that day is I needed 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:21.480 to be purely myself, concentric nigga like vanilla, extract, concentrate 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.640 to where this is the only place you can get this, 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.400 And the more I purify it, the more when somebody 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.200 comes looking for it, they can only come here to 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.920 get it because nobody else is gonna do that. In 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.759 two thousand two, nobody in hip hop is gonna do that. 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.080 In two thousand and twenty, can't nobody beat me because 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.719 it's only one met and at that point, fear me. 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:48.360 People come looking for you, they're tired of and listen 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.400 this is the second time, right, I've pretty much I know, 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.919 I pretty much piste off somebody in my top five. 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.520 The first time was Rick Ross, Right, the second time 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:04.640 is Kanye West. It's okay. I'm not saying anything to 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.720 to to take light off of them brothers. I'm talking 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.000 about the relations and how my progress is and I 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.839 related to whatever somebody, whatever the material is. If I'm 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.400 talking about being a drug dealer Rick Ross, I'll explain 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:19.560 the difference in the type of drug dealers we are, 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:23.080 the type of music. That part can be offensive, but 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.239 it's what it is. Same thing with you. If I 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:27.960 talk about how we deal with women and how he 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.440 deal with you women is going to be different. So 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.520 I don't mind what I'm saying. I have to be 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:38.120 the purest version of me, right, And eventually media understands, Hey, 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.120 if you want that pure, they're gonna tell everybody go 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:44.400 right there because this is the only motherfucking town with it, 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:51.080 the only motherfucking town with it. That's the relationship me 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.000 and media has to have. We have to have this 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.319 that's pure. He don't give a funk if you're not 0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.960 gonna support him. He don't give a fuck what you think. 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:04.560 This is pure. So when they're writing and they're telling people, Hey, 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:09.600 but that right there is unapologetically that this is the 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.640 closest thing that you'll ever get to Ice Q to 0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.320 Snoop Dogg too, this is the closest because this is pure. 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:22.360 This is raw motherfucking Peruvian flake. Like them older niggas 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.200 used to say when they used to be talked about cocaine, 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:29.680 Peruvian Jimmy, that's that work. So I have to purify it. 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:33.560 Trust me, if I wanted to market I'm marketed. Dog 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.080 That good became a number one station on twenty West 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.960 Coast station. It's easy. It's easy. I know how to 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.960 say exactly what people want to hear. That's not who 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.080 I am as a human being. That's not what the 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.440 brand of glasses is. That's not what the product glasses is. Nigga. 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.720 In my lifetime, I've never said, whether it's my older 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:55.680 homies from my hood feel me, whether it's media feel mean. 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.680 I've never said what people wanted me to say. I've 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.560 always said what I actually processed, and I can definitely 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:07.200 believe that for a fact. I do got a question 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.080 for both of y'all because I know y'all I heard. 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.200 I heard y'all last episode, y'all talking about the war 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.000 in Ukraine. Um, how do you all feel the media 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:23.920 has covered this situation that they're marketing Ukraine. Yeah, I 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:31.040 mean I Russia and Ukraine are both putting out information 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.000 is true and information is false. Our media runs for 0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.680 first information. They get and run. They don't have anything, 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.640 they haven't for years, and everything they say is in 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:45.600 the favor of Ukraine. I persistently watched the marketing of 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:50.080 it all. They are literally saying, Hey, you should be 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:54.279 down with Ukraine. That's marketing. I mean, I feel like 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:58.200 strategically they kind of have to again, so we just 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.640 we're just gonna start taking of it is. I would 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.520 expect the rest of the world to be like, yo, 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.440 what y'all doing? Really, half to meet in this country 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.319 has to put up the Ukraine because they have to 0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.959 continue to play the anti Russia card, because they spent 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.960 the last five years playing the anti Russia card. So 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:19.200 my thing is that's marketing because it's not genuine and 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:23.400 it's not sincere. It's personally motivated purely, and it's not pure. 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:27.640 That ship ain't pure, that ship black. But again, man, 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.120 everybody got to play their role, they playing their role. 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:35.680 You feel me, I don't really from social media was 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.279 bad for media because I don't even see him on 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.600 media really. I might see him doing Phone Media Company 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.960 right now. Yeah, I saw that, but also saw reports 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.400 that like it's been floundering a little bit because they 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.239 had a beta launch that didn't go the way they 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.600 wanted it to. Yeah, and it's only on Apple's not 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.560 even it's not on um what do you call it? Android? Yet? 0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:01.640 So it's there there, it's a work in progress. I 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.680 was looking at like the tech behind everything that they're 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:07.920 not even there. I'm that side of it that Ye. 0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:10.399 Do you think it was bad for media to ban 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.120 him though? Like because I don't see him at all, 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.600 and obviously he's the he was on the internet a 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.000 lot of the times. But I still feel like his 0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.279 like he has kind of been banned from media altogether 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:27.200 except for the very few right wing places. Here's a 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.319 better question. Here's a better question for both of y'all. 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:34.799 Tell me the worst person they've ever been before, I'll 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:38.719 name names. They banned Martin Luther King, they banned Malcolm X, 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.800 they banned uh Muhammad Alis is a very slippery slope. 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.879 Please do never man, I go ahead. I'm just telling you, bro. 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:51.040 They never in life bad people. They've never told a 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.719 serial killer, hey, don't run the interview on that serial killer. Ever. 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.840 They send the news down their time and cover the 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:01.560 serial killer. He'll do a was an interview. Every media 0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:03.880 company in the world go cover a serial killer who 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:08.120 murdered ninety people and let him don Tad Bundy stories 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:13.600 on Netflix. They never bad. The media never banned them. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:21.919 Motherfucker's every last um corkran the interviewed Charles Manson. Yeah, 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:25.920 like the fuck we know. Goddamn well, any time the 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.920 media banned somebody, that person is probably somewhat decent for 0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:35.239 people historically until they've been at one serial killer, don't 0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.840 do no interviews, no more on on on this motherfucker 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.359 to murder a thousand months could be eating. They did 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:45.360 an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer because he was eating human 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.839 beings and they were doing interviews with him. They didn't 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.200 ban him from the media. You mean to tell me 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.960 Trump it's worse than Jeffrey Dahmer. No, I don't. I 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:59.480 think that it was the mistake for he costs of 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.719 a fortune. I think it was just bad for the 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.480 world because if he is what people say is, I 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.799 would much rather have his public thoughts available than for 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.200 him not to be able to speak at all. And 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.040 we got to worry about what the funk is he 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:14.279 doing when I'm not when I don't see him talking 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:17.640 in public, because people don't realize, especially a lot of 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.960 Americans now that he's been banned from social media and 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.600 a lot of media things like people that were anti 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.880 Ham don't see him anymore. But he's still having rallies 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:30.000 and and and campaigning and still being a politician. But 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.239 when you bann in from the media, it's kind of 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.840 like you never see him anymore. So it's almost like 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:39.879 he doesn't exist. You're not that's good. I agree, you're 0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:43.880 making him poper. It's the same conversation we just had. Yeah, 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:46.800 it's the same conversation. Where it's power in that because 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:51.280 then you're going to look for him. Right now, the media, 0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.400 they were able to discourage people, they would have to say, hey, 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.520 you know this person he said. They were able to 0:55:56.560 --> 0:56:00.399 isolate quotes and comments and you know, whatever it out 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.719 it you He has a direct pipeline of human beings 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.160 and right now, the way things are going You're gonna 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.919 run people right back into him. Oh yeah, everybody's gonna 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.320 run right back into his arms like a bad preacher 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:18.960 that came back. We all knew this Ukraine and Russian 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:22.400 ship wouldn't happen if if, if Orange was in office. Bro, 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.319 I mean they, I mean people, the some of the 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.520 media claims he was compromised by them, So it's like 0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:35.400 compromised by somebody or not at war against an unfounded claim. 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:41.920 It's like the is the urine tape real said, it's 0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:45.319 all fake fake like, I mean, it's it's fake as 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.279 a matter of court record, fake like as a matter 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:51.759 if they're taking the media. It's not literally indicting the 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:57.000 people who released the information because it was. It's almost 0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:01.319 what's craziest, it's almost as bad as that Tasha Lake 0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.920 I think the top. I think there's a greater chance 0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:07.040 that Cardi B did a line and sucked a big 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:09.960 for a couple of racks than that pitch ship actually happened. 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:17.960 Garin Kee, good looking out for tuning into the No 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.600 Sillers podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.360 and share. This episode was recorded right here on the 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.440 West coast of the USA and produced by my Homeboy 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.480 A King for the Black Effect podcast network and not 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:38.280 Heart Radio. Yeah.