1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: This is John. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: This is your og Okay Storytime podcast hosts, and we have. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 3: Some rocking stories for you coming up. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: But before you rock out with your socks out, I 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: got a quick chum in an ad break from a sponsors, 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: keeping the show rocking and rolling. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 4: My sister has always been the golden child. Our parents 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 4: only care about her achievements. 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: She's just better. 10 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: She's just better. I have five siblings, an older brother thirty, 11 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 4: two older sisters twenty seven and twenty two, a younger 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: sister twenty and a younger brother eighteen. My second oldest sister, 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: I'll call her Biebie is a year apart from me 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 4: and has always been the golden child. Not to say 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 4: that the rest of us were skitcoats. By the way, 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: this comes from Naikuku on the Okay Storytime Separate. So 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 4: Bibe did everything. She kept straight a's through school, was 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: always MVP or champion on her sports and academic teams. 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: Our parents kept a bunch of shells for her trophies 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: and medals, and it was always filled. They kept having 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: to add more space. Since the rest of my siblings 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: and I also did athletics and such. We all also 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: got shelves for our trophies, but they were never as 24 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: filled and never as successful as Bebees. Dang. She was 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 4: competitive and always a winner. The only sport we ever 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: equals in was soccer because we played on the same team, 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: but she always got MVP. There was a little resentment, yeah, 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: but I knew it had to be benched Bhebe didn't 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: have an ego or anything. She was just good at 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: what she did and it wasn't her fault that our 31 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: parents recognized it. 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: We got along really well. 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 4: We both go to school near to our parents' place, 34 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: but they've been in the process of moving houses and 35 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: doing remodels, so neither of us have been able to visit. 36 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 4: I know that Beebe continues to do sports, and actually 37 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: is most of her college paid for by sports scholarships. 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 4: Oh wow, our parents remodels were finished, and we both 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: came down to celebrate. They gave us the tour and 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: in the living room they have a huge shelf of trophies. 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: I figured they had consolidated all the trophies, but later 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: on I went down while everyone was out on the 43 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: deck and read the name plates. They are all bbs. 44 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: I could understand if my parents had maybe gotten rid 45 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: of my older sisters. Most of her were we're participation. 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: He's like, who cares if they got rid of her 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: my sister, Yeah, but mine, that's where I draw the line. 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: But my brother was really successful with the cross and 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: I did good at soccer and swimming. My younger sister 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: had numerous academic accolades. My younger brother is a really 51 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: talented weightlifter and wrestler. The fact that they got rid 52 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: of all of our trophies for bebies is insulting. 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: That is kind of crazy. 54 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could like they got trophies too, You had shelves, 56 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: You got five shelves, you got five kids. Boom boom 57 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: boom boom boom. 58 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 4: Everyone gets one shelf and if you can't fit it 59 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: all on one shelf, then goes to storage. 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Yep, but that's crazy, BBeB. Maybe you better be in 61 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the Olympics. I would do this for my kids. They 62 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: were in the Olympics. Yeah, and then we sold our 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: house and went to a museum and they got to 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: see that show. 65 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: I saw there was this one like parent of an 66 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: olympian who posted kind of just like a oh I 67 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: love my children post on Instagram, and the first post 68 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 4: was like, I'm so proud of my children. I can't 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: remember which olympian was, but it was like, I'm so 70 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: out of my daughter, she's a gold medalist Olympian. And 71 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: then I'm so proud of my son he graduated seventh grade. 72 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm assuming ours are either in storage 73 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: or the garbage because they're not up anywhere else in 74 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: the house. Our parents have never treated us any differently. 75 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: They love and appreciate us equally, but I guess not. 76 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: I just feel insulted. I was always vocal about how 77 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: much I love soccer and how important it was to me, 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: and when I moved on to college, I kept with it. 79 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: Sure I was never the best, but I was good 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: and I got trophies and medals. They just got rid 81 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: of them all for Beebe. I don't know how to feel. 82 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: Am I just being petty? What could I even say 83 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: to my parents right now? All I want to say 84 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: is screw you guys, But I feel like that's unreasonable 85 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: for a twenty one year old. Is there anything I 86 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: can say to them? Seriously? Is this just me being petty? 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Nah? 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: Better, you just need to go harder at these sports. 89 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like you're just a failure. But I 90 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: have to live with that for the rest of your life. 91 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think you're I think you could have 92 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: a conversation with your parents and either say like, hey, 93 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: can I where did you put my medals? Can I 94 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: have them? Or just like, hey, it seems like you 95 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: guys are really only focusing on BB and the rest 96 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: of us are feeling a little left out. And also 97 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: talk to your siblings about it, see how they're feeling. 98 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Talk to BB to BB, what do you think about this? 99 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Maybe B and then use that against your parents and 100 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: she gives you if they're like, oh, I think it's 101 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: all fair. I think it's all equal. M m, maybe 102 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: you're crazy. It's not. 103 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: No, get all of the siblings united, and then go 104 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: after the parents. 105 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: Here's the knife. Yeah, in between the ribs, you get BB, 106 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: you say it's unfair. 107 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. You say yeah, you all go up to 108 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: the parents, and then Bbe steps up as you're representative 109 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: and says, hey, I've noticed that I've been getting a 110 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: lot of attention and that's not all fair. And they're like, oh, Bybee, 111 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: that's so nice of you. We should make it an even 112 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: bigger shelf for you. There's an update. So I spoke 113 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: to Bbe the night I wrote my post. I pointed 114 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: out that it was only her trophies on the shelf 115 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: and it wasn't my favorite interaction. I think being away 116 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: from her for so long definitely changed my perception of her, 117 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: and I didn't really notice that she had changed, especially 118 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: her ego. 119 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: Babe nuts, she's a monster. 120 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: What's much? I showed her each trophy and name plate, 121 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: and she went, well, of course, through my trophies. When 122 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: was the last time you got better than a bronze 123 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: bb bb BB? I asked her if it didn't upset 124 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: or that the rest of ours were basically hidden, even 125 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: though we've had a lot of dedication to our activities, 126 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: and she said, no, dedication doesn't make you a winner. 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: Bbe told me I was wasting her time, told me 128 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: to grow up and get over myself. Then she went 129 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: to go hang out with our parents, and I think 130 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: I finally got it. She was the golden child and 131 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: we were the scapegoats. The entire time I've been there, 132 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: they'd been hanging out with Bebe, and I was there too. 133 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: I felt so upset, and admittedly I self imploded. Having 134 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: my own sister that I looked up to and admired 135 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: treat me like that was just a slap in the face. 136 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Our older siblings were so far in age from us 137 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: that we really got close and relying on each other. Later, 138 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: I got my parents separated from Beebee and asked. They 139 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: pretty much echoed her, telling me I hadn't earned my 140 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: spot on the shelf and that my trophies had gone 141 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: in the garbage because they didn't impress any anybody the 142 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 4: way that Bebe's did, and said that I was an 143 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: adult and I should basically just suck it up. I've 144 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: never been more hurt by anything. 145 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, your parents and BB sucked low contact, literally. 146 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: Low condoct maybe no conduct until they freaking figure out 147 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: that they were monsters. I don't think I fully realized 148 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: the scope of it when I was younger, but it 149 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: clicks now. My game was on the same day as Bebe's. 150 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: They went to hers. They brought snacks to Bbe's competition, 151 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 4: but not mine. Everything for BB was hosted at our house, 152 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: but nothing for the rest of us. I pushed so 153 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: much of it aside and called all my suspicions jealousy 154 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: because my relationship with my sister was more important, but 155 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 4: it didn't matter half as much to her. Her ego 156 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: had gotten stroke for years and years, and they finally 157 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: let it come out and rear its ugly head. I 158 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: was just flat out offended, especially that they thought everything 159 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: out as though we didn't matter as much as Bebe. 160 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: They'd thrown it all out. I was just so mad 161 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: that I ended up leaving and my parents yelled at 162 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: me for causing drama. 163 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: What your parents, SOB, You madeb Be sad? 164 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: You maybe be sad? 165 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Please? 166 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Bbe won't eat anything. Now it's your fault. 167 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: Byby's like, I'm so upset that p would be so 168 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: jealous of my accomplishments and her parents like, baby, no, Bybe, 169 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: what you did to b B. Look what you did 170 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: to Bebe? 171 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 5: Apologize to BB. 172 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: But you know what always has drama us. You can 173 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: join us live every week to have through PMPSD on YouTube, 174 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: Facebook and TikTok to see all of that juicy juicy drama. 175 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: Just tap her profile and there is a little bit left. 176 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: But uh dang dang, BBeB fell from grace. She was 177 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: so cool, she had it all. She was nice. She 178 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: was talented and now she's just a monster. 179 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what it's like to be a golden child. 180 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, no, but it is, you know what. 181 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: It is really annoying when like, people who are really 182 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: good at stuff are horrible, Oh horrible people. 183 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 184 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, why are you so talented? You know? 185 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: And they know they're talented too. 186 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm not humble about it. It's like rub it in 187 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: your face. 188 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, I'm talented. I deserve this. 189 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I having a good sportsmanship. 190 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: If you're not humble, what are you doing? 191 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Exactly? 192 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: But uh, there is a little bit left to this. 193 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: I told my siblings about what had happened because I 194 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: thought they had a right to know that their trophies 195 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: got removed, and I did try to sound unbiased. It 196 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: didn't really work, because my whole family is in a 197 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: dramatic sinkhole. My younger brother called her parents sobbing. My 198 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: oldest sister has been playing passive aggressive and just flat 199 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 4: out aggressive phone tag with Biebe, and my little sister 200 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: was so upset she just called me bawling. All I've 201 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: been trying to do damage control, but everyone else is 202 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: just mad. For what's happened. We all got a text 203 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: from Biebe that basically read like, I'm sorry, I'm better 204 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: than you, but I deserve our parents love more than you. Bybe, 205 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: You're crazy, which naturally got everyone riled up again and 206 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: just caused more problems. This has been basically the worst 207 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: week of my life and I hate it. So, yeah, 208 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: there's my update. My family won't speak to one another 209 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: and we're all in a big dramatic mess something. 210 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Like Iron Calls. 211 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 212 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Also, I found out the sad part about Iron. 213 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: Cole that it's even sadder and that more siblings passed away. 214 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had like another sibling passed away. 215 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: That movie is devastating. 216 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, yeah, this is modern the modern modernization 217 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: of ironclore. H. 218 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: This is sad. This is sad. Bybe, You're you're stupid. Yeah, Opie, 219 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: I think you just stick with your other siblings and 220 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: you let BB pass you by. Maybe can have your 221 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: parents and you can have all of your other siblings. 222 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: And it sucks, but maybe that's the way it needs 223 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: to be for some time. 224 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Bacs backs Fax Facs. 225 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: But that is the end of that story. 226 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: My daughter is upset with me because I paid for 227 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: her sister's weddings. 228 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: And not hers. 229 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a double standard here. Am I the a 230 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: hole for only paying for one of my daughter's weddings 231 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and down payment? So I fifty mail have three kids, 232 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Sarah thirty five female, Jessica twenty five female, and Ben 233 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: twenty three mail. My wife and I had Sarah when 234 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: we were both sixteen. It wasn't easy, but with our parents' support, 235 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: we could finish college while we raised her. By the way, 236 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: this comes from practice complete one on the r slash 237 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay story Tom subur So. When it was time for 238 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: her to go to college, we didn't have money to 239 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: help her, so she took out loans and paid for 240 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: them herself. We learned from our mistakes and started saving 241 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: for other siblings Jessica unbin, who got around a one 242 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: hundred K fund for college and had no debt. Through 243 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: all of this, Sarah never complained. She finished her education, 244 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: got a fantastic job, and could repay the loans in 245 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: just three years, while staying with us to save as 246 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: much as possible. She has also helped us a lot 247 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: with babysitting her younger siblings and has always been selfless 248 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: and helped out in any way she could, maybe even 249 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: to a fault. 250 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy. 251 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: So when she told me five years ago she was 252 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: getting married, I talked to my wife and told her 253 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: how bad I felt that we never did anything for her, 254 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: and that I wanted to give her the inheritance I 255 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: got from my grandmother, which was around fifty K, to 256 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: help her pay for the wedding and down payment on 257 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: the house. Luckily, my wife agreed, and even though she 258 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't really need it, I know it meant a lot time. 259 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: Okay. I was so worried that the title meant like, oh, 260 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 4: he was going to pay for the younger daughter and 261 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: not for this older daughter's wedding. But this makes so 262 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: much more sense than I think. That's very fair. 263 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: So right now, Yeah, Sarah has gotten a fifty k 264 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: for wedding and house. 265 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 266 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: And Jessica and Ben have gotten one hundred k each 267 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: for the college. 268 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, and Sarah had to spend all of 269 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: her money on college, had. 270 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Paid it off and saved a lot. 271 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: And yeah. 272 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: The issue is this, Jessica is getting married next year 273 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: and had assumed we would plan a similar gift for her, 274 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: which she was quite surprised when I told her we 275 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: never discussed such plans and even if we wanted to, 276 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have the budget for her. She just told 277 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: us it wasn't fair that we paid for her sister 278 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: but would not do the same for her. I tried 279 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: to explain the situation, telling her that in the long run, 280 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: we spent twice as much on her and her brother 281 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: as we ever did on Sarah. However, she insisted that 282 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: Sarah was already well off, noting that Sarah and her 283 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: husband had paid off the house and were doing extremely 284 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: well financially. I told her that this had nothing to 285 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: do with how much money her sister had. This was 286 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: us finally being able to do something for her oldest child, 287 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: who had to sacrifice so much because we had her 288 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: at such a young age. She didn't take it well, 289 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: left angry and won't speak to us. My wife thinks 290 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: we should maybe take out a small loan and give 291 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: her the money, because she isn't used to not talking 292 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: to her kids and is sad she is left out 293 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: of wedding preparations. She is even afraid of us not 294 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: getting invited to the wedding. But I have to put 295 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: my foot down and won't budge because she is not 296 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: entitled to our money. Yeah, yeah, agreed. 297 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: No, I think I think you could have a conversation 298 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 4: with her and say, hey, like, if you're having money troubles, 299 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: let's try, Like, let's try, and I will help you 300 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: try and figure out a budget, or will help you 301 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: try and get your own loan. But like, we can't, 302 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: we can't give you that money now. 303 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Even Sarah is saying that this is getting out of 304 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: hand and even offered to pay half because of the money. 305 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: But personally, I'm at a point where I'd rather burn 306 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: the fifty k than give it to her. Sarah and 307 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: my wife think that it is not worth destroying our 308 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: family over, but I think that giving in will only 309 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: make her more entitled in the long I think so. 310 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 5: I think. 311 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: So Sarah's got nothing, and Sarah's doing the same thing 312 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 4: that she's done her whole life, which is giving up 313 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,359 Speaker 4: stuff to help her family out, being selfless, being selfless, 314 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: And if Jessica can't realize that, then that's her own problem. 315 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I want to see more red flags. I want to 316 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: see what else in this world has happened. Yeah, we 317 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: have an update. Thank you all for the fantastic comments. 318 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. I haveter reading the comments, I 319 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: feel even more convinced that I was in the riot. 320 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: So I sat down with my wife to talk. Following 321 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: many of your suggestions, I showed her the posts and 322 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: asked her to read it. She wasn't happy, especially when 323 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: she saw how many people had read it, but she 324 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: was also really curious. This has been on her mind 325 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot lately, and she wanted to know while all 326 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: of you were thinking, she had a few issues with 327 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: my comments. She believes that when I said I would 328 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: rather burn the money, it indicates that I need to 329 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: change my approach to problem solving. While it might be 330 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: easy for people on the internet to suggest that parents 331 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: cut off contact with their child, she is not ready 332 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: to lose her little girl. Additionally, she thinks my statement 333 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: of doing my duty and wanting to take care of 334 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: her myself comes across as selfish and not something as 335 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: a parent should say. 336 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: I think that if they keep acquiescing to what you 337 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: know when Jessica wants, then she's just going to keep 338 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: demanding more and more. 339 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there. 340 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: Is going to come a time when she's like, well, 341 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: you don't do this, I'm going to cut you off, 342 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: and she's going to keep using that as an excuse 343 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: to get you guys to come back and do what 344 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: she wants. 345 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: She believes there is a reasonable compromise. Instead of giving 346 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: her the full fifty K, we can offer for half 347 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: of the wedding. This way, she can cover most of 348 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the expenses from our savings, borrow the rest from Sarah 349 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: if needed, and pay her back within a year. I 350 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: told her right away that I am not going to 351 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: do that. I told her that we could separate our 352 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: finances and that she could return to full time work 353 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: to help Jessica pay for the wedding. However, made it 354 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: clear I was done as selfish as it may seem. 355 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't feel obligated to Jessica anymore, and I want 356 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: to enjoy my life while I still can. She replied, 357 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: as she always does, that I'm stubborn and that she 358 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: would need to take that step if it meant keeping 359 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: the family together. I told her it was fine, but 360 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: not to come to me complaining about her health. When 361 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: she went back to work full time a couple of 362 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: days ago, she came to me and said that she 363 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: agreed with my proposal. We made a plan to open 364 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: a joint bank account where we would deposit our monthly expenses. 365 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: After that we can use our personal money however we like. 366 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: We decided on an amount to keep our savings account 367 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: for emergencies and agreed to split the remaining funds fifty 368 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: to fifty. I even agreed to cover sixty percent of 369 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: the money needed for our joint expenses. This is the 370 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: first time we will have more than one bank account, 371 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: so I am a bit nervous about how it will 372 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: turn out. I also believe she mentioned talking to her 373 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: boss about working more hours, but I want to avoid 374 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: getting involved in that discussion. But we have discussion every 375 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: weekday at three pm PSD. We need to join us 376 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: live on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. Come along, Tap a profile, 377 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: tap it. The wife believes, yes, making her daughter happy 378 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: is for her to work, and yeah, just her to 379 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: work a full time job, but to work over time. 380 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: Apparently yeah, And apparently her daughter's totally fine with that, 381 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: which is so so. 382 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Did you see that TikTok trend of 383 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: the guy The girl was like, hey, paye, I can't 384 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: pay the mortgage for this month, and the guy's like, Billy, 385 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I can't. He's like, well, can you 386 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: work over your time on the weekend. It's crazy, Like 387 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to work. I don't want to have 388 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: to work a job. But it was fake. It was fake. Yeah, 389 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: So like that was like, oh my gosh. 390 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's rage bait things. 391 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what's happening here. 392 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 393 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: I can't imagine asking my parents to work hard like now, 394 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: not when I you know, different, When I was a child, 395 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know about that. But now, as in a 396 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: you know, new adult, I guess to ask them to 397 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: work more hours to pay for something in my life. 398 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: That's crazy, That is crazy absurd. Yeah, no, this is ridiculous. 399 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: I do, however, think that it is a good decision 400 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: to have a separate account, because it is. 401 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 6: It is. 402 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of unfair for regardless of whether 403 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 4: I think it's a good decision or not, Op's wife 404 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: is allowed to make certain monetary decisions for herself, even 405 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 4: if they're bad ones, and so I think that having 406 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: their separate accounts for them to make whatever decision they 407 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: want is a good idea because then it just it 408 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: won't breed resentment where one party is like, well I 409 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: don't want to use that money that way, and the 410 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: other person's like, I don't want to use that money 411 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 4: that way. Now you both have your own accounts, you 412 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 4: can do whatever you want with them. 413 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: I spoke with Sarah and express my concerns about giving 414 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: Jessica any money, which I believe is a bad idea. However, 415 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Sarah insists that she wants to help. She mentioned that 416 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: while she agrees with my viewpoint, she doesn't want their 417 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: mom to return to work full time. She clarified that 418 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: her decision to help was aimed at supporting their mom 419 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and not Jessica. I told her that this was her 420 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: money and she could do as she pleased, but like 421 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: her mom, I wouldn't involve myself in the situation any further. 422 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Right before I wrote this post, I sent an email 423 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: to Jessica expressing my feelings for her. I clarified where 424 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: I stood and mentioned that she could decide how involved 425 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: I would be in her wedding. I don't expect to reply, 426 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: but now I have to wait and see what happens. 427 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: We got neded, what does Jessica get to say? 428 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: Jessica's definitely going no contact. Yeah, no, I. 429 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: Didn't want to see you. And you're not invited to 430 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: my wedding anymore. Too bad. No one cares. Sarah's Wedding's 431 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: going to be better than yours. 432 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, and you're gonna be mad and 433 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: sad about that. 434 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 5: Yeah. 435 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: I realize now that I didn't explain something clearly. My 436 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: wife wants to pay twenty five K for the wedding, 437 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: which she and Sarah have agreed to split. She believes 438 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: this is a reasonable compromise, but I disagree with her. 439 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: Uh freakin' Jessica gets what she wants because she's a 440 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: little brat. 441 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: Just because twenty five What is Jessica doing? Imagine me 442 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: complaining to my parents about you want. 443 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: To get married? Can you give me money? 444 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 7: Moon? 445 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: I that's so unfair. Also, the fiance of Jessica, Oh 446 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: my god. 447 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you thinking? Is can his family pay 448 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: or they just make it pay? 449 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? I'd like to understand that situation. And what would 450 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: he do if he knew about this information? 451 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 452 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 5: I would in Is he part of this? 453 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 454 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 4: Oh it's the back of the hand. Thank you appreciate it. 455 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: That's the end of that story. 456 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: My monster mother said, I'm too impure to wear white 457 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: at my wedding. She's no longer invited. You can wear 458 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: red cause you're the freaking devil. Thirty female. I got 459 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: engaged a few weeks ago. I am incredibly excited. We're 460 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: excited for you too. We actually already have a beautiful, happy, 461 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: and inquisitive four year old daughter together. We've been living 462 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: together since my daughter was born and have been together 463 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: for seven years now, so it already feels like we're married, 464 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: but we want to make it official before we start 465 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: trying for a second. By the way, this comes from 466 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: Environmental Legal seventy eight on the OK storytime Separate. 467 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 5: So. 468 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 4: I met my fiance Joey thirty three male my first 469 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 4: year of law school. We started dating, and in the 470 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: fall of my last year of law school, I found 471 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: out I was pregnant. I was only twenty five at 472 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: the time, was getting ready to start my career, and 473 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: wasn't married or engaged, so it was a terrifying experience. Luckily, 474 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: Joey was supportive of me. He said he'd respect whatever 475 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: decision I made and that he'd support me no matter what. 476 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: His parents were terrified and definitely thought I should terminate 477 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: when we first told them, but they were also kind 478 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: and understanding. Initially, I was going to terminate the pregnancy 479 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: and went to the clinic twice, but I couldn't go 480 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: through with it. I come from an ultra conservative Christian family, 481 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: and my mom especially doesn't think people should have spicy 482 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: sleep before marriage. My two older sisters got married in 483 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: their early twenties and are now stay at home moms. 484 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm the only sister who graduated from college, is no 485 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: longer religious, and has career goals. When I told them 486 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: I was pregnant, my parents were devastated. My mom cried, 487 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: called me used goods and asked how I could allow 488 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: this to happen. They said Joey and I needed to 489 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: get married since we were having a child together, and 490 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: I explained that we didn't want to rush into that. 491 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: My mom called me selfish and said neither of us 492 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: were putting our baby first. They didn't speak to me 493 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: until my baby girl was born because they were so 494 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: upset that I got pregnant out of wedlock and then 495 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: didn't marry Joey before the baby arrived. I see them 496 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: a few times a year, and they certainly love my daughter, 497 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: but I'm definitely a huge disappointment to them. Your family 498 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: freaking sucks. I'm sorry. My future in laws, on the 499 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: other hand, were extremely kind and helpful during the pregnancy. 500 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: They helped cover my medical care and even rented an 501 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: apartment for me and Joey to live in after the 502 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: baby was born. Since we didn't start working for a 503 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: few months. 504 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 5: After we graduated. 505 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 4: While I was studying for the bar exam, Joey's mom 506 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: did a ton of babysitting and was always there to 507 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: help if I needed a few hours to myself. I'm 508 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 4: so grateful to them, and feel even closer to Joey's 509 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: mom than to my own at this point. When we 510 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: told Joey's parents about the engagement, his mom cried and 511 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: said how happy she was for us and our daughter. 512 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: She also said she was so proud of us because 513 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: we stuck together and made the most of things when 514 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: life didn't go as we planned. She offered to help 515 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: with the wedding, but we said we wanted to pay 516 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: for it ourselves. We want a very small ceremony with 517 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: our immediate families, a few close friends, and our daughter. 518 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: We really wanted to be about celebrating our family and 519 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: our little girl and don't need a huge ceremony. I 520 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: told my parents the news last night since we got 521 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: into town for Thanksgiving and they didn't seem excited. Of 522 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: course they're not. Of course they won't be. This is 523 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: your parents, they saw. 524 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna flip flop, flip flop, flip flop. 525 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy because that's the whole like, that's 526 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: exactly what they wanted. My mom asked if we were 527 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: having a religious ceremony, and I said no. I explained 528 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: that we want a small, low key wedding and now 529 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: we're just getting eager to get married and make it official. 530 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: My mom then turned to my fiance and said he 531 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 4: clearly wasn't too eager since he got me pregnant and 532 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 4: lived with me for four years before asking me to 533 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: marry him. Joey explained that he's known he wanted to 534 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: marry me for years, but we were focused on our daughter, 535 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: our careers and getting out loans paid off, and have 536 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 4: been treading waters since we graduated from school. They didn't 537 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: have to to get married. 538 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were so freaking busy that they were getting 539 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: that sauce in the education. 540 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 4: My mom then told him that she's ruined her dreams 541 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: of her daughter getting married since the event has been 542 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: spoiled now that we've been living together and already have 543 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: a child. 544 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: Dou dang bad. 545 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: There are your dreams in the first place. 546 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: Dude're literally not your dreams. 547 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: You have other kids who are fulfilling your dreams. 548 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, done twice. 549 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. She told me I can't in conscious wear white 550 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: to my wedding since I'm not a virgin and have 551 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: continued to sacrifice my purity. 552 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: No, guess what, you were not invited to the wedding. 553 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: You don't have to wear anything to our wedding because 554 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: you're not gonna be there. 555 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 556 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't invite these people. 557 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in law. I think the dad's just in 558 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: the corner, like in his rocking chair, like mm. 559 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: The mom is like, don't you agree? 560 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: How to you? 561 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: And he's like yep, And she's like, and you shouldn't 562 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: wear white to the wedding, don't you agree? And he's 563 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: like muh. Typically I laugh off my mom's comments, but 564 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: I started crying. I told my mom that I've tried 565 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: my best in life and don't need her constant judgments. 566 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: My mom said, I'm clearly ashamed of my life choices, 567 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: and that's why I'm crying. Oh boy, maybe she's crying 568 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: because they were freaking telling her that she's not pure 569 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: enough to wear white to her wedding. I asked how 570 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: anyone could be ashamed of my life choices when I 571 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: have such a beautiful little girl. My mom said that 572 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: we should have gotten married years ago for our child, 573 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: and that we're clearly not committed to her or each other. 574 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 4: I told my mom that I no longer want her 575 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: at my wedding because she's been nothing but cruel since 576 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: I got pregnant, and I only want people who love 577 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: and support us at the celebration. My dad said he 578 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: wasn't going if my mom wasn't included, and I said 579 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: that's fine with me. I cried myself to sleep, and 580 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 4: Joey was furious that my mother was treating me so terribly. 581 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: He also told me that he called and asked my 582 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: dad's permission before he proposed, and my dad was rude. 583 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: He said that he say no if it weren't for 584 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 4: the fact that we have a child together. He also 585 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: accused Joey of using me for spicy sleep and not 586 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: stepping up for our daughter and marrying me sooner. Joey 587 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: didn't want to upset me, but he thought it was 588 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: relevant in light of the fact that my parents clearly 589 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: aren't warming up to the situation. Needless to say, he 590 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: doesn't blame me for not wanting them at the wedding, 591 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: and he feels uncomfortable having them there too after all 592 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: the comments they've made. Oh my gosh, Yeah, I mean 593 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 4: this is they're also casting a judgment on him as 594 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: much as they. 595 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Are not being man enough for not being a good person, a. 596 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: Good parent, a good partner. I wouldn't want them there either, 597 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: But I do want you guys to join us live 598 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: every weekday at three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok. 599 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 4: Just top our profile. But there is a little bit 600 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: left to the story. But do you have any final thoughts? 601 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Coming from a conservative Christian family household, this is not 602 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: how to handle the situation. No, even if you don't 603 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: agree with someone's morals and like the choices you make, 604 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: you still gotta love them. 605 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: Especially Yeah, it's like, this is your child who has 606 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: their own child, and you're gonna keep paid this. 607 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: And also op is doing the best they can in life. 608 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: It's not like they got pregnant and then gave up. No, 609 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: they are working hard. They are being consistent and like 610 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: trying to provide for, trying to be a good parent, 611 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: trying to be a good parent, going to law school. Like, 612 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: come on, that's not easy, oh. 613 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: Especially with a child. This morning, I got a call 614 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: from one of my older sisters. She told me I 615 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: broke our mother's heart again. 616 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 617 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: Now the sisters are like, you wrote mama's heart and 618 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: I'd be cruel not to include her in the wedding. 619 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: She also said Mom has loved and supported me and 620 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: my daughter, even though she strongly disagrees with my life choices. 621 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 4: My sister says, I've made my own choices and I 622 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: can't expect everyone to like and agree with them. But 623 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: family is family, and I should include my mother. She 624 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: also said that if my parents are included, she won't 625 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 4: be there either. Am I the able boy? 626 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: You might as well call the other sister and say, hey, 627 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: you're non invited. 628 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, think to say, okay, don't come. I don't want 629 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: you there. Yeah, this is ridiculous. You literally haven't done 630 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: anything wrong. You are just living life. Life doesn't always 631 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: turn out the way that you know other people want 632 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: you to do it exactly. But that is the end 633 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: of that story. 634 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: Hey, it's John here. 635 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick 636 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: three minute break with Aswermar sponsors. 637 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 6: My boyfriend hates my dog. He told me to get 638 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 6: rid of him. 639 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: Sounds like someone I know. 640 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 6: I'll try to keep this short, but I think it 641 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: will end up longer than I expect. I live in 642 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 6: a house with one roommate, twenty three female who is 643 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 6: also my best friend. Over the summer, two things happened. 644 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 6: Oh and by the way, this comes from a user 645 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 6: a dog Throwaway ninety one and if you want to 646 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 6: submit your stories, go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. 647 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: One of my family's two dogs became very ill, and 648 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: my stepfather walked out on our family two days before 649 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: my half brother sixteen male birthday. 650 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 651 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 6: Needless to say, things got hectic, and I moved back 652 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 6: in with my family for a couple months to help 653 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 6: take care of the dog and try to provide some 654 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 6: stability for my brother. 655 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: Sick dog had to be. 656 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: Put to sleep, which was really hard. My mother also 657 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 6: had to find a new place and she could not 658 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: afford the old house on her salary alone. She finds 659 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: the perfect house, but the landlord did not allow pets. 660 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 6: My landlord does, however, and after clearing it with my roommate, 661 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 6: I decided to bring Galahad, seven male, home with me. 662 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: I've always loved Galahad, but since he's quote moved in, 663 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 6: we're pretty much inseparable. Nothing makes me smile like this, 664 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: You don dog. Roommates adore him and we often joke 665 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 6: that he is our child. My friends love him too, 666 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 6: and he is very cute and tends to charm everyone, 667 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 6: everyone except my boyfriend. It seems boyfriend was never very 668 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: keen on Galahad. I guess cordial is the best word 669 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 6: for it, if you can apply that to a relationship 670 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 6: with a dog. I always assumed it was because he's 671 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 6: a cat person. Two cats at his place. Oh there 672 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 6: is This never really bothered me until last weekend. I'm 673 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 6: planning on going to a dog Halloween party hosted by 674 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 6: the Humane Society. The roommate is going to this party 675 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 6: as well, and we are dressing up as medieval maidens, 676 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 6: and Galahad is going to be a night. I was 677 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: excitedly telling my boyfriend about these plans and showing him 678 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 6: our costumes. 679 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: When he freaks out. 680 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 6: He said Galahad shouldn't be around other dogs or even 681 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 6: range humans because of his behavioral problems. I was surprised 682 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 6: because Galahad gets along great with dogs and people and 683 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 6: has never shown aggressive behavior. 684 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: Boyfriend ranted for a while, but here's a condensed version. 685 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 6: When Galahad wants attention, like to be in someone's lap 686 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 6: or get pets, he'll lick your foot or leg almost always. 687 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Just once, John, we're gonna get back to the story. 688 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: But uh, you're old. You're as old as me now, Powell. 689 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: It might be as old as you, but I feel 690 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: like you have more wisdom. 691 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 5: I've got some wisdom in this sult noga, and you've got. 692 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: A piece of wisdom for me right now. 693 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 8: Always respect, And I think the other piece of wisdom 694 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 8: that I've learned from John is quite okay. 695 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: Story time member Chips, Yeah. 696 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: That's freaking right. 697 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: We have sixty plus hours of exclusive live streams on Monday, 698 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Wednesdays and Fridays. 699 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 8: It's only five bucks a month, so go to the 700 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 8: link in our description. YouTube dot Com, slash Okop Show, slash. 701 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: Joint, Get it, now while I'm still alive. Now back 702 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: to the story. 703 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 6: I don't mind this, but I realize not everyone feels 704 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: the same when guests are over. I tried to distract 705 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 6: and redirect him from this, but I let my guests 706 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: know it's okay to tell him not. When he hears no, 707 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 6: he will not repeat the behavior. When someone he does 708 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: not know enters the house. Galahad will bark a couple 709 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: of times. This is not an aggressive bark. It's more 710 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: like an attention bark. The only other times that he 711 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: barks is when he needs to go outside or when 712 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 6: he sees me grab the treat bag. 713 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 7: So Galahad and Iron like the same person. 714 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 6: So Galahad sleeps on my bed on a special blanket. 715 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 6: Boyfriend does not like this, so when he's over for 716 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 6: the night, I put Galahad in his crate in my room. 717 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 6: One night, boyfriend insisted that the crate be placed in 718 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 6: another room. All right, this guy just sucks. Can we 719 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 6: just be make it clear, dude, boyfriend? Actually this got boyfriend. 720 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 6: The boyfriend sucks. How can a dude be jealous of 721 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 6: a dog? I complied, but Galahad hated this and cried 722 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 6: for about thirty minutes until I brought him back into 723 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: my room. He went to sleep normally then and slept 724 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: quietly the rest of the night. Galahad likes to be 725 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: watched while he eats. This started when the other dog 726 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 6: was put down and I noticed Galahad lost a lot 727 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 6: of weight and ate very little. I had to coax 728 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 6: and encourage him to eat, which eventually turned into me 729 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 6: sitting at the table next to his bowl with him 730 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: for about fifteen minutes while he eats. Boyfriend lists all 731 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: of these as problems, including that I'm too obsessed with Galahad, 732 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 6: and ending with he thinks I need to send Galahad 733 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 6: back to live with my family. I explain to him 734 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 6: why that is not an option. He said he didn't 735 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 6: want to come to my house anymore while Galahad is 736 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 6: still here. I asked him if that was an ultimatum, 737 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 6: and he told me take it. 738 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: How I wished. This guy sucks. 739 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: This week, our communication has been the bare minimum, and 740 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: boyfriend still seems very upset with me. Roommate is furious 741 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 6: about it. I just want to smooth things over. Should 742 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 6: I take Galahad to a dog training class train him 743 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 6: to do what? 744 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 5: It'd be a nice. 745 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: I don't have the money for a personal dog trainer, 746 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 6: and I think Galahad is just being a normal DOCS 747 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 6: in for the most part, am I in the wrong 748 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 6: and it's a DOCS and he's hating on the docs 749 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 6: In update number one, I've been at to update, so 750 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: here it is. I want to thank everyone who took 751 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 6: the time to respond. I got a couple questions asking 752 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 6: if I was minimizing Galahad's behavior, and I think I 753 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 6: was mainly the barking thing. Galahad only barks a couple 754 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 6: times at people entering the house, but he is loud 755 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 6: it can be startling to people who aren't familiar with him. 756 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 5: Also, the wanting to be watched while eating. 757 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 6: I think I downplayed it because I managed to work 758 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 6: it into my routine easily, and I have a lot 759 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 6: of guilt over him dropping so much weight. This isn't 760 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 6: normal behavior, though, and needs to be corrected. With all 761 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 6: of this in mind, I decided Galahad should be enrolled 762 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 6: in a dog training class and hopefully I could address 763 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 6: his other behaviors with a professional I planned to tell 764 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 6: this to boyfriend on Halloween and hopefully it would all 765 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: work out well. 766 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: It didn't. 767 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: I texted boyfriend Halloween morning that I wanted to come 768 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 6: to his place and talk before or after the Humane 769 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: Society Halloween party. He didn't respond, so me, roommate and 770 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 6: Galahad got costumed up and went to the party. It 771 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 6: was a blast, and I could tell Galahad I enjoyed 772 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 6: some canine company. On the way back to the house, 773 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 6: boyfriend calls me and asks me to come over so 774 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: we can talk. I tell him I have to drop 775 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 6: off a roommate and Galahad first, then I would be 776 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 6: right over. 777 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: He just hangs up. 778 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 6: I get to his apartment and I can tell he's pierced. 779 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 6: He asks why I haven't gotten rid of Galahad. I 780 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 6: tell him I'm not getting rid of my dog, and 781 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 6: I tell him about taking him to classes. Boyfriend says 782 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 6: that's not good enough. We fight for a while, neither 783 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 6: of us would bend. We ended up breaking up. I 784 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 6: get back home and roommate until I've been crying, so 785 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 6: we spend the night watching Bill and Ted, drinking wine 786 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 6: and calling ex boyfriend a medieval weiener head. 787 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: I'm lucky to have such a great friend. So we've 788 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: done it. 789 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: We're atys at the finish line, this is good. 790 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this is weird. I feel if this would continue, 791 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: he would want to control other things rather than the 792 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: presence of your dog in your life. Update number two. 793 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure this is gonna be my last update 794 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 6: on this subject unless something crazy happens. Thanks for all 795 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 6: the support in my previous posts. So last Saturday, I 796 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 6: got a surprise visit from X. I asked roommate to 797 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 6: watch Galahad in another room while I talked to X. 798 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 6: He actually showed up with a box of dog treats. 799 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 6: They were for large dogs, so they were way too 800 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: big for Galahad, but it was a really sweet gesture. 801 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: Do not feed those dog treats to the dog. 802 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 6: We chitchat about various things for a couple minutes. Then 803 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 6: X apologizes, says he misses me and that he wants 804 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 6: me back. As much as I've played tough in my posts, 805 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 6: I really love this guy and breaking up has been hard. 806 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 6: We started to talk about how we could make it work. 807 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 6: He proposed that we could hang out at his apartment 808 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 6: and if he came over to my house, Galahad would 809 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 6: be put in a different room than us. 810 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: No, we still shoe is still about goal ahead, what 811 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: like this is I need. 812 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 6: I need a clear cut reason why you literally cannot 813 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 6: stand my dog? 814 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what's going on? 815 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 7: The only thing I could be, like, I'll give him 816 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 7: it is if he's allergic, that's it. 817 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: You're right, but no an indication of that. 818 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: But he's not. 819 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 6: I told him I needed time to think and that 820 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 6: I wasn't ready to jump back into official status yet, 821 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 6: and his demeanor completely changed. He got quiet for a 822 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 6: second and then said, what the earth His voice got angry, 823 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 6: not sure if I would say raised, and then he 824 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 6: went on about how I should just accept his apology, 825 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 6: that he was doing everything to make this relationship work 826 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 6: and I was purposefully sabotaging it. I could feel tears 827 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 6: welling up, and he said, and now you're gonna effing cry. Hey, 828 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: what a great what a bunch of great evidence right 829 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 6: there as to why you shouldn't be dating this guy. 830 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: So you have a first fight. This is how he 831 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: fights you. 832 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 6: The roommate walked into the room from the living room 833 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 6: to the kitchen and went to get something from the fridge. 834 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 6: X then took this as his cue and got up 835 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 6: and left without saying anything else to me. By the way, 836 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 6: We're gonna say a whole bunch of more stuff to you. 837 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 6: When you listen to full episodes with stories like this, 838 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 6: all you have to do is go to Spotify or 839 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts right 840 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 6: and search. 841 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: Okay, story time. 842 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 6: So to pull a Taylor Swift, we are never ever 843 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 6: ever getting back together. 844 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 5: I don't like op now. 845 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: Him chat Pye. 846 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: Since then, I've blocked him on social media except Instagram, 847 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 6: where I've been posting pictures of Galahad. It's petty, but 848 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 6: it makes me feel better. In other news, I've been 849 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 6: training Galahad to eat by himself. 850 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Sorry, one second, can you see if you can find 851 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: pictures of Galahad? Thank you? 852 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 6: Okay, mixed success so far, but slow and stead he 853 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 6: wins the race. 854 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: And that is the end of that story. 855 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: My boyfriend revealed that he doesn't want to marry me 856 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: after stringing me along for five years? 857 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: What do you want? 858 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: My partner? Twenty five mel is my twenty six female 859 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: rock and I'm miss literally. He tells me that all 860 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: the time, including yesterday. We've been together for five years 861 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: and have truly a wonderful relationship, always talking, laughing, comfortable 862 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: with one another, able to communicate healthily even when we disagree. 863 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: After surviving abuse as a child and surviving and struggling 864 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: with unhealthy romantic relationships in the past, the fact is 865 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: that we love each other in a respectful way, secure 866 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: and profoundly healthy way is truly my biggest blessing, and 867 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: I wake up every day so happy and grateful for him. 868 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: He's an incredible man with so much drive, intelligence, kindness 869 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: and gifts to give to the world. By the way, 870 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: this comes from Bath Mermaid on the r slideh Owkay story. 871 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: TOMPs up about it. Abut a year and a half ago. 872 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: It came up for the first time that we saw 873 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: ourselves getting married one day. It was such a beautiful 874 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: moment and rocked my world to have been vulnerable those 875 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: words and have him say them too. Since it's only 876 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: been something incredibly happy that I get to hold in 877 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: my heart and look forward to. The subject has come 878 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: up sporadically since then, but I haven't wanted to push 879 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: it too far since we are young and it is 880 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: very much and eventually think both of our parents are divorced, 881 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: and this has come from money. He got a lot 882 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: of strong advice growing up to not marry young and 883 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: protect his assets, to see it from a more financial 884 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: view than I ever have thought of. Nevertheless, the thought 885 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: makes me happy, and we often daydream about the future 886 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: we'll build together, the little house in New Hampshire will 887 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: hope to buy, and the dogs the chickens will have. 888 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: These are conversations he participates in and brings up on 889 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: his own all the time. I want to be able 890 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: to talk casually about the marriage aspect too, go to 891 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: bed with the sleepy can't wait to marry you, or 892 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: love out my life. But for some reason, recently, whenever 893 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: the subject has come up, he's clammed up and made 894 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: it feel really serious. This accumulated maybe two months ago 895 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: with a really weird conversation in which I since he 896 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: might not have processed what marriage really means in the 897 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: way that I had, and that he wasn't ready to 898 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: be talking about this in the way that I was, 899 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: or as much as he has led on. I told 900 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: him I don't want to put a pupew to his head. 901 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: This is something that makes me happy to think about 902 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: and talk about. And I tell him everything I say. 903 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: I love him for him, and I'd wait as long 904 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: as he needed, but that I firmly didn't want to 905 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: bring up the subject again until he was comfortable discussing it. 906 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to relieve the pressure on him, and I 907 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned it since. Well. Yesterday we spent a really 908 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: lovely day getting lunch and hiking with my family. They 909 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: live far away, so we don't get to see them 910 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: very often. My stepsister and and fiance were there as well, 911 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: and of course there was a little bit of a 912 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: conversation about their upcoming wedding. My boyfriend was his usual friendly, 913 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: easy going self. I noticed he seemed quiet on the 914 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: way home and later that evening, so I asked if 915 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: he was worried about work, but he just said that 916 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: he was tired from a long day of traveling. I 917 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: made him a drink, kissed him on the forehead like 918 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: I always do, and promised we could do whatever he 919 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: wanted to relax. That night, just did what I normally 920 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: do when I see that he's stressed, try to show empathy, 921 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: take care of him. But then as I'm making dinner, 922 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: he comes over to me and drops this bomb. 923 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 5: Oh god. 924 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: He came over crying and said spending time with an 925 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: engaged couple, and even barely talking about their wedding had 926 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: sent him into a panic, and he didn't know if 927 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: he could ever see himself getting married. I try to 928 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: parse what he was saying, but it was like my 929 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: brain was stuck. Evidently, he had been locking himself in 930 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: his office at work all week and crying about this. 931 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 6: Ah. 932 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 5: See, so this is a great example of bad communication. 933 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: I kept asking him why he would say he wanted 934 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: to marry me if he didn't. He said he was lying, 935 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: basically that he wanted to give me what he knew. 936 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to make me happy. I could only just 937 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: stare at him, open mouthed. I kept trying to pinpoint 938 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: if he was saying to me, I don't think I'll 939 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: be ready to get married for a long time, or 940 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever be ready to get married. 941 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: And I really don't think he knows himself. I don't 942 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: think he has put any kind of mature thought into 943 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: marriage at all. 944 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: John, you've been dancing a lot. 945 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a live demonstration and you're gonna 946 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: see it too. 947 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 3: Show me those hips. Oh no, that is a good move. 948 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: But you know what is also an amazing move what 949 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 3: does that say becoming an Okay story dive member. Yeah, 950 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: that's freaking right. 951 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: We have sixty plus hours of exclusive live streams on Monday, 952 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 2: Wedndays and Fridays. 953 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 8: It's only five bucks a month, so go to the 954 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 8: link in our description. YouTube dot com slash Okop Show 955 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 8: slash Joint. 956 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 3: Well, let's get back to the story. 957 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 1: It was like talking to a scared child. He kept 958 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: saying stuff about not knowing where his career will need 959 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: or if we'll have money. He has a great job 960 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: extending network and he's definitely not poor. Neither of us are. 961 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: And I was just like, we're a partnership. You wanted 962 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: to be with me yesterday, you wanted to be with 963 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: me today. Do you want to be with me tomorrow? 964 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 3: Yes? He said. 965 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: I said, well that's all that matters. We have a 966 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: life we love and we'll take on the future together 967 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: when it comes. I'm devastated. He left for his mother's 968 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: house and I don't know when he'll be home. I 969 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: cannot take another sleeping pill or my heart will stop. 970 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: But I can't sleep a wink. I literally spiked a 971 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: one hundred degree fever and spent all night sweating and freezing. 972 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: I had no idea it was possible to be in 973 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: so much pain. It makes you physically sick. This person 974 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: is the bedrock of my life. We have always had 975 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: rock solid confidence that we can trust each other, be 976 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: vulnerable around each other, and be our full, authentic selves 977 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: without inhibition or fear of judgment. We share everything together 978 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: and we are best friends. He even said that over 979 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: and over as he saw that. He told me he 980 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: loved me and he didn't want to get married. Hours ago, 981 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: I had the most beautiful and solid relationship in the world. 982 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if we're going to break up. 983 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm reeling. 984 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 5: Wait what we're talking about. 985 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 6: He just said I'm through sobbing tears, that he loves 986 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 6: you but he can't get married. Yeah, so there's something there, 987 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 6: but like it's just it just seems to. 988 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 5: Be talked out. I don't know, it's weird. This is weird. 989 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reelling. I feel like I've been stabbed in 990 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: the back by my safe space. The earth fell out 991 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: from under me, and I don't even know what to 992 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: think anymore. Well, got an update, dude. I mean, I 993 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: think a nice little couple's therapy session you those would 994 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: go a long ways here, I believe. 995 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like this guy has like is in 996 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 7: his head. It's just I got two decisions here. Yeah, 997 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 7: Either keep going and just like be scared, or just 998 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 7: break it off and I'll be okay. 999 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 1: The longest short of it, he left me. I called 1000 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: him the next day asking when he would come home. 1001 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: He told me he needed a day to think, but 1002 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: he was talking like we were broken up. I asked 1003 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: him to at least tell me if we're still together. 1004 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: He wouldn't. Yeah, he just torched it pretty much in 1005 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: an instant. I had been leaning a lot on the 1006 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: kind words I received from folks who reassured me that 1007 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: one fights does not need to derail everything we built 1008 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: over the last five years. I took the perspective that 1009 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: the question of marriage was something that we need to 1010 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: discuss and seriously and hopefully through therapy to arrive at 1011 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: what both of us want. I had no idea that 1012 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: he would just abend the table with no warning, without 1013 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: ever expressing his feelings or giving us the chance to 1014 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: address it with even a single conversation. So many of 1015 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: the comments I revolved around the question, is not marrying 1016 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: him a deal breaker for you? Would it be okay 1017 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: with simply a long term relationship. I don't know. I 1018 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: would have to search my soul for that answer. But 1019 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even get the chance. He just made the 1020 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: choice for me five beautiful years and he just effing left. 1021 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: Needless to say, there were a million better ways to 1022 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: do this while honoring his fears and feelings, while still 1023 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: showing me an ounce of respect as his partner and 1024 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: someone who loves him. This owed a conversation, and even 1025 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: if we still reached the same conclusion, I would understand. 1026 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: But this, this is not what I deserve. Yeah, dude, 1027 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: now what I am like? Speechless? I'm mad myself because 1028 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 1: I gave this guy a chance. I was like, Okay, 1029 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: this guy's hurt, he's hurt inside and he's he and 1030 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to communicate, and he's gonna like 1031 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: work on that. Why Why did I fall for this? 1032 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: I did see him one night and we have been texting. 1033 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: He said all of this awful stuff about how he 1034 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 1: was just trying to tell me everything I wanted to hear, 1035 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: and how I wouldn't liked the person he really is 1036 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: underneath all his people pleasing, He's got a lot of this, 1037 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: don't talk about it, just run in his family, including 1038 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: his parents' relationship. My partner has always said he doesn't 1039 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: respect this kind of behavior and talk to vehemently about 1040 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: how his values are different, and then just did the 1041 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: same thing. Although when I wrote my original post, I 1042 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: wanted nothing more than continue living our happy day together. 1043 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: But given this entire nightmare, space is the only thing 1044 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: that can do anything for either of us. At this point, 1045 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: he has no idea what he's feeling or how to 1046 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: talk about it in a healthy way. My dad had 1047 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: the simplest take and yet said it best. He's immature. 1048 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: He needs to work on himself, and I hope he does. 1049 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: As for me, i'd be an idiot. You still want 1050 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: to marry him knowing this is the kind of thing 1051 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: he's capable of. By the way, you can be capable 1052 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: of joining us on your favorite podcast platform. Just go 1053 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: to Spotify or Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen, search up 1054 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: Okay story Tom, and you can hear more crazy stories 1055 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: just like these. 1056 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 5: Right in your ear holes. 1057 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 1: So we've got to break our least apartment hunting. While 1058 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: still rilling from this one to eighty flip of my 1059 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: life has been terrible. We moved to the city together 1060 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: and pretty much every friend I have met is through him, 1061 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: so I'm really scared. Will mean losing a lot of 1062 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: other people I love too. It's going to be expensive 1063 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: and miserable to live on my own, but I'm still 1064 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: grieving my sweet love and the life I thought we 1065 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: were going to have together. I gave five years of 1066 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: my life and so much on myself being one half 1067 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: of that partnership. I never wanted to be on my 1068 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: own again, and now i am. I still love him, 1069 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: but I can't wait around while he fixes himself or 1070 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: pine foolishly hoping one day he'll wake up and be 1071 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: ready for me. I don't want to stand on my 1072 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: own two feet, but that's just what I'll have to do. 1073 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story. Chat. 1074 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Sam. We're ready to get back to these stories. 1075 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 3: But here's three bites of ads from our sponsors. 1076 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 6: My boyfriend stole my necklace and gifted it to his sister. 1077 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 6: Serious advice needed because I am lost. I email have 1078 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 6: been with my boyfriend Adam for almost a year now. 1079 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 6: I met Adam through my master's degree in the UK, 1080 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 6: when I was a sophomore in college, I had a 1081 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 6: long term boyfriend who I'll call Kyle, who took his 1082 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 6: own life. We were together for three years, and I 1083 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 6: would never wish the pain of losing someone like that 1084 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 6: on my worst enemy. By the way, this comes from 1085 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 6: user Danielle Kay seventy two thirty eight and you can 1086 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 6: submit your stories on the r slash Okay storytime sub 1087 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 6: reread it. When we started college, Kyle gifted me a 1088 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 6: lockett with the word most engraved on the back of it. 1089 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 6: It was our thing. It meant he loves me most sappy, 1090 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 6: but it was ours. Since his passing, this has been 1091 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 6: my most valuable possession and I do not go anywhere 1092 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 6: without it. This is my last piece of Kyle. After 1093 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 6: finishing my degree and struggling the entire time, I decided 1094 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,479 Speaker 6: that I needed to get out of the town where 1095 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 6: everything happened and decided to study my master's degree in 1096 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 6: the UK, which is where I met Adam. He is 1097 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 6: the first person I've allowed myself to love since losing Kyle, 1098 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 6: and I really have loved our relationship up until this. 1099 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 6: If it's true, I will never be able to forgive him. 1100 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 6: Adam has always been insecure of Kyle, asking hypothetical questions 1101 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 6: like if Kyle was still alive, what I'd be with him, 1102 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 6: and what I prefer about him over Kyle, et cetera, 1103 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 6: et cetera. I usually just dodged the questions and never 1104 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 6: give him an answer, as I don't condone these types 1105 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 6: of questions and don't want to feed into it. We 1106 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 6: have also had to have several conversations regarding Adam talking 1107 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 6: badly about Kyle. He also dislikes if I post about 1108 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 6: Kyle on his birthday or death anniversary or have hard days. 1109 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 6: He sees this as that I don't love him and 1110 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 6: I'm still hung up on Kyle. So no matter how 1111 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 6: many years that pass and how much I love Adam, 1112 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 6: Kyle was my first and his life was cut short. 1113 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 6: He was also my best friend. I will warn him 1114 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 6: and his life forever, even if I have moved on romantically. 1115 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 6: He knows how much this necklace from Kyle means to 1116 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 6: me and how devastated I've been the last two weeks 1117 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 6: frantically searching our apartment for it. I took a shower 1118 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,479 Speaker 6: one day and set the necklace in the same place 1119 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 6: I always do, and when I came out of the shower. 1120 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 6: It was gone, and Adam swears he has no idea 1121 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 6: where it is and it must have fallen somewhere and 1122 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,240 Speaker 6: got lost. I've been beside myself and I've spent nights 1123 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 6: and tears over losing this. Adam has a sister who 1124 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 6: we will call Jane. Jane recently celebrated her twenty first birthday. 1125 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 6: I'm in her Snapchat private store where she posted the 1126 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 6: beautiful lockett that her big brother got her for her 1127 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 6: special day. And it was the same lockett. Yeah, what what? 1128 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 6: I know it was the same because it had the 1129 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 6: same engraving on the back. 1130 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: No. 1131 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 6: No, I don't know how Adam explained that one, but 1132 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 6: he must have somehow. Me and Jane are not particularly close, 1133 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 6: and this isn't something I feel I can just confront 1134 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 6: her about casually. Oh but that's you can. You can, though, 1135 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 6: you can. I also feel silly bringing it up to 1136 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 6: Adam in case it isn't the same lockett, and I 1137 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 6: am just going insane or looking for excuses because I 1138 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 6: was careless and lost it. I don't see where else 1139 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 6: Adam would have got this lockett, as it was made 1140 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 6: for me by a small business back in the state 1141 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 6: She was local to Kyle and I and her work 1142 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,959 Speaker 6: has always been my favorite advice on how to ask 1143 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 6: Adam about this. I know if I do, he'll deny 1144 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 6: it either way, and this lockett means the world to me. 1145 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 5: I need it back update. 1146 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 6: A day or two after the initial post, I confronted 1147 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 6: Adam about the locket. He claimed he did not know 1148 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 6: what I was talking about. He couldn't believe I could 1149 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 6: be as cold as to accuse him of this. 1150 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 4: What a psycho. 1151 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 6: When asked for receipts or any proof that the locket 1152 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 6: was not the same as mine, he couldn't produce any 1153 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 6: and got angry and stormed out of our apartment. 1154 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 5: He came back that night and tried to. 1155 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 6: Gaslight me into believing I was the one who created 1156 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 6: a problem out of nothing, and even that the necklace 1157 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 6: he got his sister had no engraving whatsoever. Unlucky for him, 1158 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 6: I had contacted his mom while he was away. 1159 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 5: I just remembered a very sad, tragic tale. 1160 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: I remember when a young Samuel Donner he wanted to 1161 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: join the cool kids. But instead of labeling you as 1162 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 2: one of the cool kids, they. 1163 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 3: Called me salad boy because I ate nothing but salads. 1164 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 3: I did not trade my lunch for a lunch. 1165 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 6: He's tally. 1166 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: You know what. 1167 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 2: Community will always welcome you with open arms, Sam, and make. 1168 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: You feel like a cool kid. 1169 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 2: The great people who have okay storytime members. 1170 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 8: Oh, I heard that sixty plus hours of members only 1171 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 8: content Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 1172 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 5: You heard right, Sam, And it's only five dollars a month. 1173 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 8: To go to the link in our description YouTube dot 1174 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 8: Com slash okop show slash Joint. 1175 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 6: Now back to the story, Chom Chom stated that I 1176 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 6: had misplaced my locket and was wondering if it had 1177 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 6: accidentally been taken home by Adam when he was visiting. 1178 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 6: She got back to me pretty quickly, saying that she 1179 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 6: had found my necklace on her daughter Jane's present pile, 1180 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 6: stacked away in a corner. She said that she would 1181 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 6: return the necklace to me as soon as possible, and 1182 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 6: that herself or Jane must have mistaken it for one 1183 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 6: of her presents and put it back in the pile. 1184 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 6: So she promised me that she would keep a hold 1185 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 6: of it in her room until she got the chance 1186 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 6: to return it. Immediately after, I had confirmation that Adam's 1187 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 6: mom had the locket. I booked the cheapest flight home 1188 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 6: I could find and asked his mom for a lift 1189 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 6: to the airport that way she could return the necklace. 1190 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 6: She agreed, and after that I sat planning exactly how 1191 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 6: I would tell Adam that we were breaking up. 1192 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 5: I think you should tell him when you're already on 1193 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 5: the plane. 1194 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. 1195 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 6: I didn't need him to admit to stealing the necklace. 1196 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 6: The fact that I had enough doubt in my mind 1197 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 6: that I knew he had taken it was enough for 1198 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 6: me to know that this relationship was going nowhere. 1199 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 5: Way to go. 1200 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 6: Ope, God, I love that crystallization in your brain. I 1201 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,720 Speaker 6: just wanted my necklace back. I stayed with Adam until 1202 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 6: my flight, which was about a week ago. I let 1203 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 6: him and his mom drive me to the airport and 1204 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 6: I left the note breaking up with him, telling him 1205 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 6: that my friends would be by to pick up my 1206 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 6: stuff and move it between their flats. I took a 1207 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 6: leave of absence from university until I work out where 1208 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 6: I'm going to stay when I get back to the UK, 1209 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 6: and have contacted my landlord about taking my name off 1210 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 6: the lease. When Adam's mom gave me back my necklace, 1211 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 6: his face was priceless. He looked like a deer in 1212 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 6: the headlights. He was so angry, but he couldn't show 1213 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 6: it in front of his mom. Is that, now that 1214 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 6: I'm thinking about it, maybe that does make him look 1215 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 6: like a deer in the headlights, Like try to be 1216 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 6: angry but you can't show it. 1217 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, just uh yeah. I would also leave a note 1218 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: for the mom so he can't twist the words. 1219 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1220 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 6: I wouldn't even involved Adham at all. I would have 1221 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 6: had Adam not there, just the mom. 1222 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1223 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 6: His sister Jane hasn't once questioned the missing necklace, and 1224 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 6: it's been around two weeks now. 1225 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 5: I doubt she will ever notice. She is rather spoiled. 1226 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,439 Speaker 6: And by the way, you can be spoiled too if 1227 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 6: you want full episodes with stories like this boil Boy, 1228 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 6: do we have a treat for you, because you can 1229 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 6: go to Spotify or Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen 1230 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 6: to podcasts and just search, okay, story time in there 1231 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 6: you can listen to like up. 1232 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 5: A jillion of them. 1233 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 6: And there is a little bit of an update here, 1234 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 6: I mean, before before we finish. 1235 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: It, execute it perfectly, I'd say, I don't think i'd 1236 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,919 Speaker 1: do anything else differently yet getting out pretty quick got 1237 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: the necklace back. 1238 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 7: I think would we confront him like, all right, cats 1239 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 7: out of the bag, stop lying, where do we go 1240 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 7: from here? 1241 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 5: Or we just like it's done well. I think they 1242 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 5: did it and it was like there was nothing came 1243 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 5: of it. 1244 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 6: He just was like, I can't what, I can't believe 1245 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 6: that you do so ridiculous, saying you just like got 1246 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 6: mad and left. Yeah. So I think it's more of like, 1247 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 6: if you need the Catharsis, you should just like call 1248 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 6: him and like tell him how trash he is and 1249 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 6: that you know and you know that you don't need 1250 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 6: the reassurance or the confirmation because you literally have it 1251 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 6: in your hand. Yeah, And it was yeah, so you're trash. 1252 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 6: You need to get off your chest and then move 1253 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 6: on with your life. Put him in the review because 1254 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 6: that guy's and let that be a lesson if anyone 1255 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 6: is like insecure about the fact that you've had previous 1256 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 6: relationships to the point where they're. 1257 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: Like, what do you did you like that guy? Yeah? 1258 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 5: Why do you like me? 1259 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: Do you still like that guy who's better at me 1260 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 1: or him? 1261 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 7: Why do you bring that up? 1262 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: Huh? I don't know, so now we're all insecure. Riley. No, well, 1263 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, don't ask those questions. 1264 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 7: Why are you asking the question? 1265 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. I just give you an example of what 1266 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: questions and not to ask. 1267 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 6: Anyways, let's go ahead, and let's go ahead, and let's 1268 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 6: go ahead and keep going. 1269 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go bust out the rulers. Yes, oh yes, 1270 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 5: uh no, let's let's finished the story. 1271 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 6: I am glad to update that I am safe. I 1272 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 6: am back home with my necklace from Kyle. I am 1273 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 6: just home from visiting his grave, telling him this entire 1274 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 6: story and laughing about it. It reminded me that I 1275 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 6: should update and probably hold higher standards in men for 1276 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 6: myself Dan. And that is a tragic yet uplifting end