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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: It looks live on a Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: Merely bow the great ze. Quiet, weekeed for you?

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, not much going on, brother, look at you

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Speaker 3: the champion. It all happened, It all happened. It was

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Speaker 3: from Afar. Gibby and I talked about it yesterday. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: and I can't wait to listen to that.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday on my DVR, and I

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Speaker 2: bet it is. It is, and but it was one

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Speaker 2: of those things from Afar, knowing how much this has

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Speaker 2: been a part of your life, to get too truly

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Speaker 2: live out a dream in a way that you, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure never thought possible.

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Speaker 3: It's very well said and very accurate. I mean it literally.

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Speaker 3: When we kind of conceived of the idea and what

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Speaker 3: was going to happen, you know, I got very excited,

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Speaker 3: and as I do with everything, I take things very

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Speaker 3: very seriously, and I prepared my butt off. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the idea that I would wrestle a match in my

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Speaker 3: life was very far fetched, right, The idea that I

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Speaker 3: would be in the ring with a two time Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer, twelve time world champion, living legend, a guy

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Speaker 3: who's been in the business for thirty seven years in

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Speaker 3: Jeff Jarrett. That that's who I would be starting off

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Speaker 3: and squaring off with in the ring. That I'd be

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Speaker 3: in there with a giant seven foot four, four hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty pounds legit stotanham Singh. I would be body

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Speaker 3: slammed by a giant. I would be nearly decapitated with

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Speaker 3: a clothesline by a giant. That it was wild. And

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Speaker 3: then then with members only two young guys who wanted

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Speaker 3: it and had a chance to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: really be in the spotlight. And I don't like them,

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Speaker 3: but I do respect them now. And they gave me

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Speaker 3: a wicked three D like that was gnarly.

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Speaker 4: I got a few. I have a few.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, look at that shot.

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Speaker 3: There a few bumps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty solid for those watching on the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good I got.

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Speaker 3: Some stuff across here, some stuff, Yeah, I bet you do.

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Speaker 3: I got quite a bit going on, but it was, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a dream come true and it

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Speaker 3: was awesome and everybody involved couldn't have been better and

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Speaker 3: it couldn't have gone any better. I'm so thankful for

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Speaker 3: for aiw for John Thorn for letting me do this,

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Speaker 3: and for you know, Wadsworth on commentary, my teammates Josh Bishop,

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Speaker 3: Tom Lawler, Hardway Holloway. It was so really. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I have my oldest friend the world who's in studio

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Speaker 3: with us right now, Vince Cannie flew in from California.

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Speaker 3: I had people flying from Georgia, Florida, New York, Like,

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of people there.

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Speaker 2: Gibbet was in the house in there were a ton

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Speaker 2: I mean, he put out a triumphant photo of you.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's very nice of my triumphant of you.

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Speaker 2: It was probably the nicest thing he's ever done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it means a lot because I know that.

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Speaker 3: It's like when my dad. I got a text from

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Speaker 3: my dad that night. My dad watched it and he

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Speaker 3: was like, Wow, he goes, you were great. He goes,

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Speaker 3: that was so entertaining. He watched it. He's like, I

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Speaker 3: watched it twice. I love, so he came around. So

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Speaker 3: if I was like, if my dad said I did

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Speaker 3: a good job, then I know it was. It was

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Speaker 3: pretty good, but it was. It was very cool after

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to peel back to curtain too much,

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Speaker 3: but it was my goal in doing this was obviously

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Speaker 3: one to live out the dream too, to see like

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Speaker 3: could I do it? Could I stand there and take

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Speaker 3: a guitar shock? Can I stand there and have a

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Speaker 3: giant clothesline me? Could I take the physicality of the

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Speaker 3: match and survive it all? Because people, anybody out there

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Speaker 3: who wants say wrestling is fake is look at my

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Speaker 3: bi look at my body. And I wasn't in a

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Speaker 3: hardcore match. I wasn't in I was jumping, jumping off

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Speaker 3: my life and the respect I have for everybody who

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Speaker 3: And I think it was it was awesome. I got

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Speaker 3: a shout out to Global wrestlewear guy made my gear.

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Speaker 3: He makes gear for stuff. He makes gear for Broski,

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Speaker 3: for mac Cardona, for AJ Styles, lots of guys in

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Speaker 3: the w w E and a wh I Definitely my

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Speaker 3: my top definitely had an AJ Styles vibe to it,

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Speaker 3: and you might see I probably wasn't AJ Styles prototype

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Speaker 3: that ended up being uh mine, but it it was magical, man.

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Speaker 3: And to share that with my family and my kids

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Speaker 3: being there and they were so proud, and and you know,

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Speaker 3: my mom was there and Kale and all my friend

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Speaker 3: it was it was pretty wild, dude. It was like

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Speaker 3: it's one of those highs that is tough to put

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Speaker 2: We've reached an age men in our forties where these

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Speaker 2: type of things in most instances, you resign to the

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Speaker 2: fact that you're not going to have these things anymore.

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Speaker 2: Like there was a point where and whatever you do,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've talked about playing you know, flight football

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta or whatever athletic thing that you did, you know,

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Speaker 2: pick up basketball, whatever, and and it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: You know, people will scoff, oh, pick up basketball, city

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Speaker 2: league whatever. Like to get competitive juices, full flowing is

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Speaker 2: something that we chase for a long time, but then

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Speaker 2: you reach a point that outside of golf, pick a ball,

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Speaker 2: tennis and things like that, you can try to get

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Speaker 2: a little bit of that juice. But we've resigned to

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Speaker 2: the fact that you're not going to anymore. You reach

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Speaker 2: an age, so you're at our age to be able

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Speaker 2: to have a moment like that is something that it's

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Speaker 2: It's truly probably a once in a lifetime thing that happened.

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Speaker 2: I do want to.

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Speaker 3: You'll be happy to know that I meant the like

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Speaker 3: ninety nine point hard nine nine nine percent that that's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that. I think no. I can see

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Speaker 2: it right back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: It would happen to be something the mix very unique

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Speaker 3: or special with like a friend, how would you I mean,

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Speaker 3: I wrestled a legend.

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Speaker 2: I understand, but I you know, you get the itch,

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Speaker 2: you start to scratch. You know, I can see it

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Speaker 2: next summer.

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Speaker 3: If you would have seen me Sunday just.

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Speaker 2: Laid out, that's a bigger bruise than I you bruises.

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Speaker 2: Here here here this ahead to my last next Sunday,

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Speaker 2: My next question, how would you like to address the

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Speaker 2: fact that you, sir, are a liar? And here's what

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Speaker 2: you lied about to me. You said Suttenham Sing was

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Speaker 2: not getting his hands on you, and he did more

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Speaker 3: So he'll be honest with.

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Speaker 2: The hell out of you. You told me, you gave

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Speaker 2: me your word that you would not be anywhere near him,

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Speaker 2: that any sort of physicality would not happen.

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Speaker 3: I tried every problem ignore this. I have no problem

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Speaker 2: I get I'm looking Saturday night and I'm going, my god,

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Speaker 2: what is going on?

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Speaker 3: This was not in the brochure.

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Speaker 2: So this is not what was supposed to happen.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those things where you're in the

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Speaker 3: moment and I will say, like, one of the things

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Speaker 3: that was wild to me is you know Karen Jarrett

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Speaker 3: slapped I mean, I'm bruised on this side of my

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Speaker 3: she slapped the taste out of my mouth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 3: But when you're in there, it doesn't hurt. It's more

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Speaker 3: like it stings and it it adrenaline wakes you up.

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Speaker 3: It's like you're like, oh yeah, all right, Like let's go.

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Speaker 3: So the way that I ended up getting tangled in

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Speaker 3: with Sodom Sing was I'd thrown three straight hip tosses

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Speaker 3: right on over it. And you know, you're feeling pretty

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Speaker 3: good about yourself and you're like, let's go okay. And

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Speaker 3: instead of running out of the ring, which I should

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Speaker 3: have done, I did that. He comes in. I try

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Speaker 3: he ain't clubs me, and the next thing I know,

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Speaker 3: I'm ten feet in the air in his hands and

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Speaker 3: he slams me to the mat. Body slam me no,

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Speaker 3: the towards the finish. Karen Jarretts goes to slap me again.

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Speaker 3: I ducks, she hits Jeff jarrett kick to the gut,

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Speaker 3: pull him in. I'm gonnaive him a razor's edge. And

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Speaker 3: then I feel a I can't even say a hand

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know what a pit a

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Speaker 3: paw grabs me, turns me around, he grabs my right wrist.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at him. He pushes me away from him

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Speaker 3: I mean Stiffy McGhee crushed me with a clothesline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crushed me.

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Speaker 3: Like I went from looking out being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: it felt like he knocked like my chest, like out

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Speaker 2: What hurt the most? Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Sunday? I actually couldn't turn my head this way at all,

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Speaker 3: So that was concerning. It was basically this region and

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Speaker 3: we knew its Saturday night too when when we were

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Speaker 3: we went out afterwards at a great time. But basically

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Speaker 4: Was there?

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Speaker 2: What? Which which maneuver caused?

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Speaker 3: Type of my the three D? So the three D

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Speaker 3: on that. Oh yeah, I mean he got me hooked

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Speaker 3: and I knew that that hurt a great deal in

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Speaker 3: the moment, and pretty much nothing else really hurt in

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Speaker 3: the moment, Jarrett. When Jared was stomping me, giving me

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Speaker 3: the Ronnie Garvin stomps, those hurt, he was. Those hurt

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Speaker 3: quite a bit. But at the three D at the end,

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Speaker 3: which hurt. But then I knew. I was like, I

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Speaker 3: was like, okay, I I I kicked out kind of

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Speaker 3: But then I kind of they kicked me around and

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Speaker 3: But that's yeah, it's it is such a cool sport

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Speaker 3: No, because fortunately for all of us, right, they have

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Speaker 3: been so successful that they're not Their net worth is

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Speaker 3: not tied solely to this franchise. They made a tremendous

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Speaker 3: amount of money or very successful with Pilot and the

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Speaker 3: things that you was working on, and so they're in

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Speaker 3: a position where they're they will spare no expense to win.

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Speaker 3: That's all they that is their singular focus is winning.

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Speaker 3: They don't necessarily have to balance the books of course

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Speaker 3: they want to make money in these NFL teams do

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Speaker 3: make a great deal of money, and the Browns are

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Speaker 3: very efficient in that way, and they the haslms demand it,

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Speaker 3: but they will do whatever it takes on the football

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Speaker 3: side to win. And that I think is we are in.

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Speaker 3: That's helpful for us against maybe some of the legacy

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Speaker 3: owners who's whose full net worths are created by the

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Speaker 3: fact that they own an NFL team for a long

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Speaker 3: time in their families.

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Speaker 2: It's liquidity.

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Speaker 3: It's liquidity, right, which is why I think you're seeing,

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Speaker 3: you know, some of that talk about private equity coming

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. I guess is those they're going to

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Speaker 3: pair with some of these people for you know, cash

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Speaker 3: infusions and all of that.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. I mean, you've seen it. You've seen

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Speaker 2: it with that Fenway group, and you're going to see

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Speaker 2: it with more and more and more that group that

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Speaker 2: owns the Washington Commanders now and so you will see

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Speaker 2: more and more of that going forward, just because you

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Speaker 2: need to have a great deal of cash to circumvent

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Speaker 2: a system that wants parody across the board. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: is Jose, I could go Manny. Okay, it's Manny. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Well you know what you don't I think Manny should

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Speaker 2: just be Manny Manny. I think he's more known as

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Speaker 3: Should probably just say, Joe, Montana is all you you

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Speaker 3: just need. That's all you need. There. Notice there's no Young.

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Speaker 2: There is no young, No no you, no no only.

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Speaker 3: No a yeah, just Montana.

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Speaker 2: I assume that's not the entire state. But rather Joe,

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Speaker 2: look at this guy. What does he have?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Baby, what does he got? What those oh my victory cigars?

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's got some cigars. That was a pack of

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Speaker 2: that was It was a robust pack of robustos.

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Speaker 3: It looked like one of those like T shirt cannons.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just like really was loaded up just shooting cigars around.

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Speaker 2: Did you have one center?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I did not. That actually would have been a great

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Speaker 2: You're like me though, right, like you're not crazy about

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Speaker 3: I didn't need to be in any worse shape the

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Speaker 2: your spot today, we have a trade request or demand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're all requests right there. They are all requests. They're

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Speaker 2: only in demand. If you say I'm never going to

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Speaker 2: play for you again. Yeah, right, well that's a demand.

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Speaker 3: And we've had trade requests be made here. One of them,

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Speaker 3: famous David Njoku said, Nope, request denied, request denied, and

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Speaker 3: it's worked out great for everybody. So, uh, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Brand Ayuka is very, very talented. He led their team

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Speaker 3: in receiving last year. You know, maybe he's mad that

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Speaker 3: he kind of plays second, third, fourth, maybe even on

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Speaker 3: their offense. Think about Christian McCaffrey, what he does you

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Speaker 3: think about? They did that Receiver show and that featured

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Speaker 3: Debo and Kittle, not Ayuk, So maybe he's he wants

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Speaker 3: to be shown a little bit of respect.

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Speaker 2: You know, respect is usually best shown in football by money,

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Speaker 2: money money, yep, And it sounds like they're far apart

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Speaker 2: on their side.

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Speaker 3: Now, if I was the Niners and I realized Deebo

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Speaker 3: does a lot of electric things and is more versatile

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Speaker 3: in the ways in which he can be deployed, but

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Speaker 3: he's a little bit older. His style causes him to

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Speaker 3: take a little bit of a beating. Ayuk is a

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Speaker 3: pure good number one wide receiver. So I'm surprised that

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't rather maybe get a little younger and you know,

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Speaker 3: stay with with Ayuk. Now, I'm sure they're going to

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Speaker 3: want to work it out. Kyle's no dummy, neither is

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Speaker 3: John Lynch, but he is an interesting That's an interesting name,

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Speaker 3: I think to a lot of teams, that could be

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Speaker 3: a very interesting name. It sounds like, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how much you've seen of this, but it

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Speaker 3: sounds like DeVante Adams is not playing for the Raiders

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it certainly seems that way from the

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Speaker 2: receiver show. Has there been any sort of demand for

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Speaker 2: them this summer where he's like, I'm not showing up

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Speaker 2: or No.

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Speaker 3: Rogers said something at the at the celebrity event that

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Speaker 3: you know how great it would be to play with

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Speaker 3: Davante Adams again.

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Speaker 2: Well didn't he say, I can't wait to play with

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Speaker 2: him again?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And then you had Orlovsky today was saying that

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Speaker 3: he believes he's going to be a Jet now. If

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Speaker 3: the Jets go out there with Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams,

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, and Mike Williams with Breese Hall in the backfield,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they might have the best and I don't

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Speaker 3: even know, but they might have the best eleven personnel collection.

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Speaker 4: In the league. Do you.

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: What would but what would the Niners get back in

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Speaker 2: that that would have that would make any sense?

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Speaker 3: The Raiders?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sorry the Raiders. I'm sorry the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Would they get back in that would make any sense

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Speaker 2: for them? Like they're going with Minshew like so picks.

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Speaker 2: I guess I still think it's kind of a punt

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Speaker 2: on the season for them.

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Speaker 3: I still think the craziest thing that happened this offseason

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Speaker 3: is and I realize it's also says you know why

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Speaker 3: there was no market for justin Field, But if you're

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, the idea that you wouldn't take a gamble

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Speaker 3: on Justin Fields and you would go with Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 3: and the guy is you're Often's cornea was Field is

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Speaker 3: oftense corner, which tells you why it says no, I

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Speaker 3: don't want him, yeah, much more emphatically than oh we

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Speaker 3: prefer Minshew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's it's wild to me, that is very, very wild.

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Speaker 2: It is it's absurd that I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 2: It speaks to the deficiencies Fields obviously has also speaks

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Speaker 2: to I think the other thing that's issuing about Vegas

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Speaker 2: is they can and I don't know who you would be.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a Caleb Williams type. I could see people

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Speaker 2: falling in love with Quinn Ewers over the course of

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Speaker 2: this season if he plays well at Texas, because he

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Speaker 2: has a rocket and he's got some juice to him.

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Speaker 2: So I could see people falling in love with him

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Speaker 2: this season if he plays really well. But I would

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Speaker 2: also say that what the point I was going to

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Speaker 2: make is because of because they're not in Oakland anymore,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty easy for the Raiders to tank now totally

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Speaker 2: like who in Vegas is holding their feet to the fire.

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Speaker 2: Nobody They're going to sell out that stadium, no what,

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Speaker 2: No matter what, whether their own fans are some Ara.

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Speaker 3: Eduication, it's team right. Every road trips.

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Speaker 4: Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Vegas is on the schedule.

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Speaker 3: We got to go to Vegas. I been telling you guys, great,

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Speaker 3: very cool.

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Speaker 2: I think the the reality is that if they want

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Speaker 2: to play that game and they want to on a

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Speaker 2: season and start a rebuild, this would be the time

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Speaker 2: to do it. Accumulating assets would be a smart way to.

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Speaker 3: Do it, no doubt. I think you're exactly right about that.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, what did he think he was

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Speaker 2: getting into.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, but he's he's vicious on that.

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Speaker 2: He thought he was like, it was going to be

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Speaker 2: with Derek Carr forever. Is that what he thinks the

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Speaker 2: whole thing? Yeah, I think so it's like, I'll go

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Speaker 2: play with my buddy Derek Carr and that I guess

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Speaker 2: that's it's who's hoping.

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Speaker 3: For State produced another pro sense. I mean, Derek Carr

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Speaker 3: and DeVante Adams in one draft is pretty incredible. Like

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they've even produced. Has anybody else

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Speaker 3: got t.

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Speaker 2: Carr brother I mean David was number one overall at

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Speaker 2: of Fresno and then his brother was a second rounder

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Speaker 2: and Adams is the second round. Sure, yeah, David is

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Speaker 2: I put David in the same ilk as Couch. No chance,

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Speaker 2: No chance in those scenarios. I was trying to think,

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Speaker 2: is there anybody else? I think I think their coach

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Speaker 2: just quit. Actually yesterday I think it was former Cow

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Speaker 2: coach Jeff Tedford was the coach there and just stepped down.

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Speaker 2: I want to say that that just happened yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: you know, the other thing I understand about them, as

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Speaker 2: a side note, is they have that V on the

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Speaker 2: back of the helmet, which means I think it means valley.

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Speaker 2: It just looks ridiculous if you don't know. They have

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Speaker 2: a red they're red and blue and white, and they

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Speaker 2: have a bold aug of old helmet. But then they

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Speaker 2: have a V on the back that I think stands

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Speaker 2: for valley, like a green bee.

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Speaker 3: What are they in the San Fernando? Where is what

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Speaker 3: valley would they be in?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We're two Cali kids over here.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. I don't know, but I think that's what

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Speaker 2: it's for.

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Speaker 3: People aren't flying to California, fres now.

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Speaker 2: No, a lot of a lot of like fruit farms

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Speaker 2: and like carrot farms and stuff there right.

654
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Speaker 3: Which makes me the San Fernando Valley. Yeah, by the way,

655
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: quick aside, I think this is because I did a

656
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: good job wrestling.

657
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: But we.

658
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at that thing, look at that functional.

659
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm using it right now.

660
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: Watch hello, Oh my goodness, gracious, oh baby, I don't

661
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

662
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: We need one more for you. We need one more

663
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: for you.

664
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. And what you need to mount? Well,

665
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: what you're right, we need to get a mount so

666
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: that it's here. Yeah, you've got a lot of realized here. Brother,

667
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: But I d where's he is?

668
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: He's still here there, job that we've.

669
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: Very good job out of him.

670
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: All right?

671
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: The uh what else we have here?

672
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah?

673
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: The college football twenty five game dropped?

674
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 3: So oh man, look at that.

675
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah there it is? Well, how about it?

676
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 4: How about it?

677
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: So technology is amazing. I went to I worked yesterday

678
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: and had some stuff was running around. Finally settled down

679
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: around eight o'clock and I went to the interface on

680
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: the Xbox and I bought it. I bought that you

681
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: get the Madden in this for like one forty or

682
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: one thirty or something like that, and you get all

683
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: that nonsense that they like with the points and stuff

684
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: so they can make guys whatever. So I did it.

685
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know what all that does, but apparently

686
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: they get a kick out of it. So we did

687
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: that and it was downloaded in about twelve minutes. How quick.

688
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: I could not believe how quick it was. It was

689
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 2: downloaded in about twelve fifteen minutes, and I fired it up.

690
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: I put it on Social I fired it up with

691
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: Beamsy and Bootsy sitting next to me, and that was there.

692
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: I just filmed them as we as we put it up. YEA,

693
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: to me, it was really cool. It occurred to me

694
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: that it's truly a game they've waited their entire lives for.

695
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: They've never had it. They have no other than the

696
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: fact that I had an Xbox three sixty with the

697
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen game. And during the pandemic, I would because

698
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: we don't anything to talk about, I would do Ohio

699
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 2: state seasons and then talk about the gate like. That

700
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: was something I did at that time.

701
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 3: It was big. It was big barlay they did.

702
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: They did it with Tennessee. I did with Ohio State,

703
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: and I downloaded the new Ohigh State I played with

704
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Fields and all those guys, and so I did it.

705
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: But then we got shortly thereafter you got the Red

706
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: Ring of Death on the Xbox three sixty. So they

707
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: haven't played in four years that game, so they were

708
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: eagerly anticipating it. It's totally immersive. It is very much

709
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: everything that made the other game I think better than

710
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: Madden is all still there. They have all the pageantry

711
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: that you want, all the rivalry stuff. The thing about

712
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: a college football game, at a big game on campus

713
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: is they're these intricate little details that each stadium has

714
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: that differentiate them from the others. Most of them are

715
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: old buildings. A lot of them are old buildings, whether

716
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: it's chants or songs or entrances or war eagle or

717
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: whatever that the NFL just doesn't have. The NFL is

718
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: a much more sterile. It's not sterile in terms of

719
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: the noise, but most NFL stadiums feel kind of similar.

720
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: There's a similarity to them. College they pick up on

721
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: all of that. So it checked all of those boxes.

722
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: I haven't really played it much. I played for about

723
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: a quarter against Bootsy and that was about it. They've

724
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: played at NonStop. I had to have a seven am,

725
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: no playing until seven am. I needed an hour of

726
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: piece this morning before they started on it. And they

727
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: were like horses in the gate at the Kentucky Derby.

728
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: When's it's seven?

729
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: Dad?

730
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 2: Is it seven yet? Is it seven? And then they

731
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: sprinted down to do it now. Of course they're jerks,

732
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: and instead of just playing the dynasty like any sane

733
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: human would do, they do the creat a guy nonsense.

734
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: So then you got to go through the recruiting process.

735
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Who do you want to sign with? What type of

736
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: tape do you have on your shoes? All this nonsense

737
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: o'clock before any of them ever played a game, they

738
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: were building guys all morning. So they love that.

739
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: So what are the modes in the game.

740
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Uh, dynasty dynasties. Pretty I haven't gotten into that yet.

741
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they're very involved.

742
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't think the servers were up for it last night,

743
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: so I didn't. And again I only played for a

744
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: quarter their version of my career. I don't know what

745
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: it's called. What. Yeah, So then like they all did that,

746
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: so they created their guys and then you go through

747
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: recruiting process, and then you's like do I want to

748
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: go to Ohio State and be the third string quarterback

749
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: for this year or do I want to go to

750
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: Michigan State and start right away? So like you have

751
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: to make those decisions on how you want to go

752
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: about it. To Michigan State ball and transfer transfer. Yeah,

753
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: that's and now you can so like the portal's in there,

754
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: and I l's in there, Like all of that stuff

755
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: is in there that you get, like text messages if

756
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: you're out too much and the coach suspends you, like

757
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it's completely immersive and maybe like

758
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: a road to the champion, road to the College Wall playoff.

759
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Maybe is there any.

760
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Like for Ohio State do they have is the only

761
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: team that you can play as Ohio State is this

762
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: year's Ohio State Or is there like an Ohio State

763
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: Best of team?

764
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: No, there's not an Ohio State Best of team. There

765
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: are there are like what are they doing mad and

766
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: when you get like the old guys, Yeah, some legends

767
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: legends cards, so there are I think there are legend

768
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: cards in the game. We didn't get into that, but

769
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: I think there are legend cards.

770
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: So there's like my Team version of it.

771
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what the boys are doing. That's in that

772
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: my team world. Yeah, you can do that. But I

773
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: didn't see like now, to be honest, I didn't have

774
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: time to look, but like I didn't see like could

775
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: you go play with the fourteen Ohio State team. I

776
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: didn't see that cool.

777
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: Or if they just had for each one like the

778
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: best the ultimate Ohio State Team, the ultimate you know

779
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Clemson team, the ultimate the U team.

780
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: I think the idea of trying to get those people,

781
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: all of those people licensed, juxtaposed to what they had

782
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: to do to get this done, Yeah, it just seemed overwhelming.

783
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they have actually for a while in Madden

784
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: they had a thing like that where you could be

785
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: they picked what it is like eight teams Camping's Legends,

786
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: and it was a mode where you could play as

787
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: like the best used of Ohio State Team, orus, the

788
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: best Cleansing team or whatever. But I think it's because

789
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: all the guys that were in that were already licensed

790
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: for Madden.

791
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Sure, And that's the problem. The problem, yeah is you know,

792
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: like what are you gonna're gonna get? What are you

793
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: gonna track down Chick Harley? Right, Like what are you

794
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do? What are you gonna find where?

795
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Where's hop along Cassidy's family? How are we gonna get

796
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: him in there? So I think that's the thing that

797
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: makes it so difficult. The other thing, I just think

798
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: it such tremendous. I don't know how they got it done.

799
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: I think it's remarkable that they got it done in

800
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: an era of nil. I am concerned that it could

801
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: be a one and done situation because I think they

802
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: said a very dangerous precedent with Arch Manning. I think

803
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: paying somebody sixty thousand dollars to do an ad reportedly

804
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: for the game allows for like if next year, I'm

805
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Julian saying, who's the I've start kid at Ohio State.

806
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: Who's the California kid who's gonna be the quarterback next year?

807
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Julian saying, what's stopping you from saying

808
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: I need fifty grand or you can't put me in

809
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: the game? Like so they to me they should have

810
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: held firm on Arch and said you can get the

811
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: six hundred like everybody else, yeah, or nothing, but by

812
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: paying him the fifty or sixty. Now, so you open

813
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: this can of worms, like you're gonna have guys wanting

814
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: more everywhere, like, where.

815
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: Does it stop? He's not even the starter.

816
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: No. I think it's gonna be really difficult going forward

817
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: to manage it. I think because here's the thing you do, Madden.

818
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: What are you dealing with the NFLPA? Yep, there is

819
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: no PA, right, So you gotta go individually to every

820
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: kid every team. Think how monumentous that is ye to

821
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: try to track all that down?

822
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean so many people per teams, more

823
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: so many more teams.

824
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's they got one hundred and twenty

825
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: teams on the game. They got some FBS teams in

826
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: the game, Like, no, it's crazy. Yeah, the scope of

827
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: it is enormous. And there's kids that missed out, Like

828
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: there's Jttmolowow, who's could be a first round pay out

829
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: of Ohio State defensive end. He's not in the game.

830
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: And one of there's like there's three or four O

831
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: High state guys starting left tackles not in the game.

832
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: So I saw this from me a last week and

833
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: they said that there were some guys who you who

834
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: won't be in it, some of it just because of choice.

835
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: They didn't want the money, didn't want their names, image

836
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 2: and likeness out there.

837
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: Why not? I don't know, and college? Can I get

838
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: to be in this plane?

839
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: Come on?

840
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

841
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: And then the other thing was I stopped. Then the

842
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: other thing was some kids just missed the deadline. They

843
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: said that some kids just missed the deadline like it

844
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: got lost in email. Yeah, and just just missed the

845
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: deadline on it. This is something that I didn't consider

846
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: until last night, you know how, And we've talked about

847
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: my boys playing FIFA. How they know Imbape, Holland PSG,

848
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Byron enter Ac all of it, right, they know all

849
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: of it of European soccer, and they know it because

850
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: of FIFA. What I didn't consider to last night was

851
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: there's a generation of kids who did not know the

852
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: depth of college football because of this game not being there.

853
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Like how many kids know? Like if you talk to

854
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: like if I were talk to my kids about like NBA,

855
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: they could probably give you the top seven on every

856
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: team in the league because they play two K in

857
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: NFL because of Fantasy and Matt and Matt Fantasy and

858
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: the Show and FIFA and all of this. So like

859
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: they didn't have the depth of knowledge of college football

860
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: because they but now they will like there's a running

861
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: my beams. He was like dad, who's just running back

862
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State? Who's in ninety eight? And then now

863
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 2: they know who that is, Like Boots he was playing

864
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: with Nebraska's how do you say this guy's name? Well,

865
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Royola. He was a number one quarterback in the

866
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: country a couple of years ago, and he's Nebraska. There's

867
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: a legend there in terms of his dad played there,

868
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: and so all of that's how that happened. So I

869
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: do think that there will be unity for these players

870
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: that are in this game to capitalize even more because

871
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: they will be now more known than they were even

872
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: tostly total and my kids. Yeah, so yeah, it's pretty cool.

873
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: It's it's very very cool.

874
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: So what are you? Are you going to roll? Are

875
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: you the new Buckeyes? Are they the best team in

876
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: the game right now?

877
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: Georgia I think is number one? They're too the one

878
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: or two. Yeah, Georgia, Texas, Oregon, theyre the top four

879
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: overall talent. I don't know, I don't know. I'm at time.

880
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: I'd like to play a little bit, but I always

881
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: like taking the team a little off the grid that

882
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: throw it a lot. So I always got a soft

883
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: spot in my spart in my heart for SMU. I

884
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: like those helmets, I like all the criminal enterprises that

885
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: they do in Dallas. I feel like I could thrive there. Yeah,

886
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: throw some money around. I actually did. I'm doing twenty

887
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: most interesting programs down South and SMU is last Friday.

888
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how. I'm sure most of our audience

889
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: has no point of reference on this. They are playing

890
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: in the Atlantic Coast Conference this year. Okay, they are

891
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: doing so for no money that I knew. So they

892
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: punted on the television ship. They're getting nothing. Their boosters

893
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: are making up the difference just to be in a conference.

894
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: They said, just let us in, We'll play for free. Okay,

895
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: So they're paying that out of pocket. Last year, Texas

896
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: A and M was number one in the country in

897
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: terms of money raised to their booster club in NIL

898
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 2: for football. It was like one hundred and thirty six

899
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty four million something like that. SMU

900
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: in its first year in the ACC raised one hundred

901
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: and fifty nine million. Yeah, so they're gonna They're gonna

902
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: be good soon. It won't take long. No, it will

903
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: not take long they be good before. I mean they

904
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: won national championships. They're the number one teams in the

905
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: country in the early eighties. Like, it's there, and they

906
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: raised that kind of money.

907
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: There's a good thirty for thirty on them, isn't there.

908
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite ones, other than the ones

909
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: that are tier jerkers like Once Brothers and two Escobars,

910
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: Like those things are emotional. But aside from that, pony excess.

911
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, pony Access is just spectacular.

912
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah about everything they were doing and now everything that

913
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: they did and got trouble for is all legal.

914
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: Totally do whatever I want legal. It's it's the only way.

915
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: It's the law of the land, the only way to survive. Yeah.

916
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: Like Eric, people think it's funny there's that image of

917
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson driving that gold trans am and they think

918
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: he got it from SMU. He actually got it from

919
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. He had Texas A and M,

920
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: but I him a gold trans Am and then the

921
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: next day he signed on signing day with SMU, and

922
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: then he kept the trans amat because what's A and

923
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: M gonna do? Hey, wait, we need that back.

924
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: Well, why does he have it right? How do you

925
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: get it, you give it to me. It feels like

926
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: a violation.

927
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: It's like a violation.

928
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: So he just took it.

929
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: Is legend. Are coaches in the game, Like, No, it's

930
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: not that I saw it was because when I when

931
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: the boys were committing this morning, like, none of the

932
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: coaches I saw were in the game, so like and

933
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: they didn't know Ryan da No, No, I needed to

934
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: get again. Maybe the boys haven't played with Colorado yet,

935
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: so I don't know. But in the little bit that

936
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: I played, I didn't see them ever take an image

937
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: of a coach anytime they did it. You know, in

938
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: the Madden Game, they'll take a coach shot. In this game,

939
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: they didn't. It was always flavor, it was students, it

940
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: was co ed's, it was mascots, that type of stuff.

941
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: It's what it was. What is this here? Many college

942
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: footballs are playing the game themselves, most notably should Ar

943
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: Sanders Travis Hunter played the game. Both players played as Colorado.

944
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: Sanders defeated hunder by forty in their live stream playing

945
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: the game utter through the Colorado offensive lighter.

946
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: The buzz thing.

947
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: The old line is realistic. They can't block for nothing.

948
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: She's Travis that programs it didn't.

949
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: He's gone after this year.

950
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: It's good. Yeah, I don't think they're going to have

951
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: a great year this year.

952
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: I had a guy. I asked a guy about them

953
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: last week and he said, look, everybody knows what's going on.

954
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: He used them, they used him. The guy was like, look,

955
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: we were on game day. We were on this for

956
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: a month straight. Ten million people watched our games, ten

957
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: million people saw that campus, which is as beautiful as

958
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: any you're going to see. And the enrollment was through

959
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: the roof in terms of the applications. So like they won,

960
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: they won two. Like he used them. They were the

961
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: worst power five in the country when he got there.

962
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: They're still not great.

963
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna be rough this year.

964
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: I think they'll be better than they were. Like last year.

965
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 2: They won four games. I think they could get Bowl

966
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: eligible with just six just because they're not in the

967
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Pac twelve. They don't have to play sc they don't

968
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: play Oregon, they don't play Washington, so like Utah that

969
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: they'll benefit from that. So I think they have a

970
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: chance at being Bowl eligible. But after that, he's gone

971
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: and then they're starting over again.

972
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: Where do you think he goes anywhere?

973
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: Because he's not going to go to Well, that's why

974
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: I was surprised he went to Colorado to begin with.

975
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: Like to me, he was at Jackson. To me, he

976
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: should have been at Mississippi State or Auburn or something

977
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: like that, even u C F USF something in the

978
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: southeast where he had infrastructure and rep and all of

979
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: those things, like trying to build it out of the

980
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: clear blue sky in the middle of the Rocky Mountain region.

981
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: Is with no recruiting. No, no, Norvell's undefeated last year,

982
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: then they have no interest. They're not happy with him. No, no, no,

983
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: because they show up to longtime defensive coordinator there pretty

984
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: inside baseball. But Mickey Andrews past and Dion was supposed

985
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: to be like the keynote speaker. He didn't show up

986
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: for the funeral. So like people there were like, fine, yeah,

987
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: that's that. Yeah, across the line, all right, oh, we

988
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: got gibbe.

989
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: We might want to just roll, keep rolling for a

990
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: few minutes.

991
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 4: We'll do let's take a break preview. Yeah, we'll move

992
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: everything back.

993
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll get you set for tonight. We'll

994
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: get you set for tonight.

995
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: Come out one more nil note for you give it

996
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: to me courtesy of our in studio guest Monsoon. Phil

997
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: Knight has said Oregon football now has unlimited nil.

998
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: So they do, he does. They've done it in recruiting

999
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: and they've done it in the portal. They just beat Bama.

1000
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Oregon are the most mobilized teams in

1001
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: the country right now with nil other than A and M.

1002
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: A and M is selling something else. But there's billionaires everywhere,

1003
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: of course, like all these programs have for sure at

1004
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: the top. It's just a matter of do you want

1005
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: to write the check?

1006
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: What are people in your mind these billionaire benefits? Like,

1007
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: what are they getting out of? Like I understand a

1008
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: billionaire in the NFL. You own the team. You're the

1009
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: owner of the football team.

1010
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: You see blue chips. Yeah, that's what they're getting. Okay,

1011
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: remember hap, I own you, Bud, I own him, I

1012
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: own him. I own him. That's what they're getting. Chesty

1013
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: chess Chestey. Yeah, hey man, how'd you get that quarterback?

1014
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: He ay man?

1015
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: I bought that kid, that's what. Yeah, I bought him.

1016
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, look into that's it.

1017
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: That's how it goes.

1018
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or we had the homer in Derby

1019
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: last night, All Star Game, Tonight, the open, we had

1020
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: an anthem. We'll get into all that coming up next.

1021
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: Let's stay Cleve The Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

1022
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley Bed

1023
00:46:51,600 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

1024
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: Both are my friends at Jim Beam would do sports

1025
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: and Jim Beam having common both are better when enjoyed

1026
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: with others. Grab a bottle, gather your friends, enjoy the game,

1027
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: because with Jim Beam you come his fans and leave

1028
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: his family. Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey forty percent alcohol by volume,

1029
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: copyright twenty twenty four, James B. Beam Distilling Company, Claremont,

1030
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: Kentucky Drink Smart Home Run Derby was last night. Did

1031
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: you see any of this?

1032
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 4: I did that.

1033
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: I didn't either.

1034
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: I did not.

1035
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: It's I will watch tonight. I like the pomp and

1036
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: circumstance of the starting lineup, and I want to see

1037
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: Skeens pitch against the top of the American League.

1038
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: So that's the only thing that's intriguing to me because

1039
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: i've it's guy's because Skeens has become mythical, like almost

1040
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: a mythical creature and my limited baseball watching in terms

1041
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: of when you're on social if anytime he pitches, he

1042
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 3: dominates social media. Yeah, I don't know that I could name.

1043
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: I want to say five, but maybe ten is a

1044
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: better number of participants in the Major League Baseball All

1045
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 3: Star Game.

1046
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm probably close to that.

1047
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: And I'm starting with skeens.

1048
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know our guys.

1049
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Mike Trout.

1050
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if Trout is or not, but you know,

1051
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez, Kwan Ramirez. You got those guys. You get

1052
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Earlie day La Cruise is in the mix. What about

1053
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: the closer class in the mix? Yeah, you got him,

1054
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: uh Otani Otani, Bryce Harper, Yeah, okay, Aaron Freeman, Aaron Judge.

1055
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: Judge, Juan Soto, we know, I don't know what move together.

1056
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know if he made it

1057
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: or not, but it would seem like he would be

1058
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: in the mix. I don't know. It's it's just become

1059
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: so regionalized that you care about. Like we're seeing with

1060
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: the Guardians right now, they're an incredible first half, they're

1061
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: in first place, all of it. They've definitely been one

1062
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: of the stories of the summer around here. But if

1063
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: you're not here, I don't think you're following this team.

1064
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: You follow your team only. It is the most of

1065
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: the professional It was the first one that went ultra

1066
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: regional where you only even like on Sunday Night Baseball,

1067
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: they'll try to throw up Yankees Red Sox. Nobody cares. No,

1068
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: it's done on that side, but people in those towns

1069
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: still care. But you don't care about teams that are

1070
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: out of market. And that's it's just what's happened over

1071
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: the years with Major League Baseball. But I will I'm

1072
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: interested to see Skans go against the one two three four,

1073
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: the one two three probably the American League, and Kwan's

1074
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: gonna get a shot because he's leading off, so he

1075
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: goes first against Skiens. Do you know Paul Skeen's his story?

1076
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: Do you know what's happened?

1077
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: No?

1078
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: Oh, not a high school.

1079
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: In my mind, it sounds like he has a zero

1080
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: point zero era and strikes everybody out.

1081
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: He's the nastiest dude to come in, probably since Carrie Wood.

1082
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: In terms of his debut, there's a little for nondomnia

1083
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: to it. If you're of a certain age. But so

1084
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: he goes out of high school, he's a California kid,

1085
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: signs with the Air Force Academy out of high school,

1086
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: plays two years at air Force, enters the transfer portal,

1087
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: goes to LSU, wins National Player of the Year, SEC

1088
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, set a record for strikeouts that

1089
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: went back to Ben McDonald, who was the number one

1090
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: pick in the early night again LSU. LSU, Yeah, because

1091
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: he was at cause Skens went to LSU. They win

1092
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: the national championship and he starts dating Livy Dunn. Then

1093
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: he goes number one overall to the Pirates and he's

1094
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: been up for a month and is basically unheatable. So

1095
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: he's had an eighteen months the likes of which no

1096
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: one seen legendary. Yes, yes, wow, okay, yeah, so he

1097
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: goes he'll go tonight, and I am quite intrigued by that.

1098
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: Wow.

1099
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's what I'm gonna see. By the way,

1100
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw this. I just

1101
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: just came across mine. I think like a half hour ago.

1102
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: We were talking about the national anthem last night, which

1103
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: was not great. Yep, so pote it was ingrid and

1104
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: dress is the one who's a four time Grammy.

1105
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: Do you know who she is?

1106
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: I've never heard of her. Yeah, but she said she

1107
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: posted about a half hour ago on it looks like

1108
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: on Instagram. Okay, I'm not gonna be as y'all. I

1109
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: was drunk last night. I'm checking myself in the facility

1110
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: day to get the help I need. That was not

1111
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: me last night. I apologized the MLB, all the fans

1112
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: in this country I love so much for that rendition.

1113
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: I'll let y'all know how rehab is. I hear its

1114
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: super fun XO ingrid.

1115
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Oh right, that took a turn. I wasn't anticipating, mean neither.

1116
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: I saw that, and I was like, okay, I mean

1117
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: it's well.

1118
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: That explains it though, because for because Himber, it's used

1119
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: like a Grammy or a Grammy Award winning artist. I'm like, well,

1120
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: she cauld say not last night, No, but that explains that.

1121
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: I think some people would say though perhaps after a

1122
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: few cocktails they get on a karaoke mic and it's

1123
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: their best singing.

1124
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: I think in your mind it is, and.

1125
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: Your audience doesn't know. The difference.

1126
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: Fair slightly different audience than a home run derby on

1127
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: a Monday night. Yeah, that's pretty locked into the national Anthea,

1128
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: which is already one of the hardest songs to sing,

1129
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: and you got to sing at a cappella, which is

1130
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: just brutal.

1131
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, but there it is. That's what That's

1132
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: what it was.

1133
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: Did you see your boy Tiger in his press conference today?

1134
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Don't poke the Tiger.

1135
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: Baby, missus doubtfire got crushed.

1136
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: So crush.

1137
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: I talked to talk with some younger people in the

1138
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: morning and I'm like, do you guys have any idea

1139
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: who Colin Montgomery is? Oh man, no point of reference.

1140
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm Montgomery, Okay. Was one of the best European golfers.

1141
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: Callaway was huge at the beginning of Callaway but could

1142
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: never win the Open.

1143
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: In fact, what I said was is he is he

1144
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: would For probably a five to six year period in

1145
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: my mind's eye, he felt like he was the answer

1146
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: to best player to never win a major? Yes, like

1147
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: he was. He was in the top five of the world.

1148
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: It felt like for like five years he never did one.

1149
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: He never won a major. No, and he was always

1150
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: that guy. He was like, well, why has it he

1151
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: won one? What's the problem here? He's too good to

1152
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: not win a.

1153
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: Major, second at the Open Championship and O five second

1154
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: or tied for second three times at the US Open,

1155
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: second at the PGA, and his best in the Masters

1156
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: was actually tied for eighth. He's a Hall of Famer.

1157
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: He was the European Tour Order of Merit winner, which

1158
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: means the best player on their tour ninety three, ninety four,

1159
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine

1160
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: and two thousand and five.

1161
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: So there you go. So he is that he might

1162
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: honestly be. I think he probably the all time answer

1163
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: to the question of who is the best golfer to

1164
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: never win a major? So he might be that correct answer.

1165
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 3: He spent starting in nineteen ninety four, been four hundred

1166
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: weeks and the top ten players in the world. Highest

1167
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: ranking he ever reached was number two, and his prime

1168
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: was considered one of the best drivers of the golf

1169
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: ball in the world. Became a verperseise iron player, often

1170
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: able to judge the distance he hit to the ball

1171
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: exactly from long range. He came in first in the

1172
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: Volvo Bonus Pool every year, which is an extra Tronsch

1173
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: Great Word of Prize money award at the end of

1174
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: each season to regular members of the tour wh read

1175
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: the best performances of the season. So, I mean he was, yeah,

1176
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: just couldn't get it done at the Majors. Had a

1177
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 3: very like old school swing, like very upright, yeah way

1178
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: reverse sea way high. So he basically was saying that

1179
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: he was the Tiger needs to hang it up.

1180
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1181
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: He was asked, you know, it's a Scottish open. He's

1182
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: a Scottish guy. So who's doing a lot of availability.

1183
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: By the way, you listened to eight fifty ESPN Cleveland,

1184
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: a good Karmer Brands station wkn R, so he had

1185
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: he was asked about Tiger. Everyone's asked about Tiger. I'm

1186
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: gonna tell you something, Jack. You want to annoy Jack

1187
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: ten years ago? Ask him about Tiger. He couldn't wait

1188
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: to not talk about Tiger. He was so annoyed by it.

1189
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: And I think probably everybody in golf, they've had to

1190
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: do this for so long. And while they are incredibly jealous, yes,

1191
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: incredibly appreciative of him for the amount of money he

1192
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: made all of them, there is also this feeling of like, okay, enough,

1193
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: and so he's asked about Tiger at this availability, he says,

1194
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: I think he ought to think about hanging it up.

1195
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: The answer wasn't nearly as inflammatory as I'm sure it

1196
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: comes across if you if you hear it, it does it.

1197
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: It's not as bad. But Tiger was asked about it

1198
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: and went all in.

1199
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: Tiger Wood said that as a past champion, I'm exempt

1200
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: until I'm sixty, unlike Colin Montgomery, who never was too

1201
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: right now, col Montgomery did post today, Yeah, if golf

1202
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: writers want my thoughts on Tiger, please ask me directly

1203
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: rather than taking a quote from an interview out of context.

1204
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: Wishing Tiger an enjoyable and successful week.

1205
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the beef. I think he's right on that.

1206
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: I think it was taken out of context, and I

1207
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: think it was. But you know, Tiger like, he's not

1208
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: afraid to take something and use it in that regards,

1209
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: and I took that personally.

1210
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm exempt until I'm sixty. Colin's not.

1211
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that's the way that goes. All right,

1212
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: there you go. That starts on Thursday. It is my

1213
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: favorite major. I know it is yours as well. Oh baby,

1214
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I love and have you played there at Trouon? I

1215
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 2: have played Troon? Is that where they are, Yeah, Yeah,

1216
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: I played it? Is that the one you post to peer?

1217
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: Damp Truon was wasn't my favorite of the ones I played.

1218
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's more boring.

1219
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: What was it? Was it?

1220
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: Turn Bears Purism. Turn Bear is awesome, Okay, Kings Barnes is.

1221
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: Truon is pretty Trin's pretty straightforward.

1222
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: Trem's the one on like if you played it on

1223
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: one of the video games, you'd shoot forty.

1224
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, Bombit.

1225
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: Just straight, not that long. It's the wind coming off

1226
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: because most of the holes go perpendicular to the to

1227
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: the ocean or to the sea, and so you get

1228
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: huge crosswinds, and that's what makes that course challenging more

1229
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 3: so than the layout of the course itself.

1230
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so if there's no elements than THEA.

1231
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 3: Could light I'll shoot sixty. They could light it up.

1232
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: All right.

1233
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: We'll get some position previews. Are what are we doing linebackers?

1234
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: What I saw, dude? Some linebackers will do that a

1235
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: little higher lower as well. You'll listen to Cleveland Ronds

1236
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,440
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1237
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:19,160
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1244
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1245
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: little Higher Lower, presented by I keep it from Ohio.

1246
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: From the Ohio, A lot of reminds you to set

1247
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: time and spending limits when gambling. Hello, Gibbe, give it.

1248
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: I know we're doing position preview, but that's my.

1249
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I forgot about that.

1250
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: We were just moving everything back one.

1251
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: Do you want to position to breeve you now or

1252
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: higher Lower?

1253
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: Well, you teased it. I can be ready, give me

1254
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: a second in the meantime.

1255
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: Well you do that, I'm gonna that's a bad job

1256
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: out of me. I see what happened was when we

1257
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: finish a segment, I throw the paper away so I

1258
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: don't come back to it. That segment, though, we flopped,

1259
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: so we'll do position. Gave you coming up. I just

1260
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: want to say this, so this is from sec media days,

1261
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: which is going on right now while you're getting our

1262
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: higher lower in order. There is some question about whether

1263
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: the SEC is going to penalize teams for doing horns down. Okay,

1264
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: so the Texas horns down, and Oklahoma's head coach Brent

1265
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: Bennable says, I don't really have an opinion. You know,

1266
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: football is a game of emotion, intensity, passion. If they

1267
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: they say that's going to be a penalty, don't do it.

1268
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: If they say it's free for all, have at it,

1269
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: this would be And this became a thing under Tom Herman,

1270
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: who was an Ohio state assistant. He was the one

1271
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: that threw the fit about horns down is disrespectful. This

1272
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: is what I say. If you're going to do horns up,

1273
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: then they can do range down. Yes, yes, full stop.

1274
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: Yes.

1275
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: So you want to do this every time you score,

1276
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: then they can do this. When they don't.

1277
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: What's the problem?

1278
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: In what way? It's awful?

1279
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: It's this joke, it's just this and that that that's it.

1280
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: What's this?

1281
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: How's that offensive? Not?

1282
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna run around doing this and they can do this. Absolutely,

1283
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: I would take it as a compliment.

1284
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: It's like saying, like our thing's thumbs up, but you

1285
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: can't get me a thumbs down. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1286
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a really good good idea, Texas.

1287
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: The lick on the thumbs my favorite, the lick. Yeah,

1288
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: the case, I still do it.

1289
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: Every on's wrong. You suit a lot more. Oh that's

1290
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: a really good idea. Yeah, let's have dairy queen for dinner.

1291
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: That's a really good idea.

1292
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: But see, he probably hates that.

1293
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Hates it.

1294
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: Oh man, he hates That's unbelievable.

1295
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right, buddies.

1296
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: So for this week's edition of High or Lower, it

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Speaker 4: was more just reacting to the quarterback rankings between these times.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, so this is this is this is the

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: one we've been waiting for.

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Speaker 4: This is the big one.

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: This is the biggie, This is the biggie top ten quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okp.

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, all right, should we try and guess how the

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: evaluators will see it?

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01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: You are more than welcome to We are ready to

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01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: go here, all right.

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: Okay, obviously Mahomes is one by the evaluators. I bet

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01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: he isn't on pff he is number one. Oh okay,

1309
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: so that feels like a cheat to me because I

1310
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: don't think last year he was the number one PFF quarterback.

1311
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: Do you realize he was not first or second team

1312
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: All Pro Patrick Mahomes. It was Lamar and it was

1313
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: Dak Yeah.

1314
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: We also had what was it Kelsey? Kelsey?

1315
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: Kelsey was the first or second team a Pro.

1316
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: PFF says twenty twenty three wasn't Mahomes' best year by

1317
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: the numbers, but after back to backs Super Bowls were

1318
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 4: one of the least talented supporting casts. We're not even

1319
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: going to entertain overthinking. This one goes back to, hey,

1320
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: don't bet against him never again.

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01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: I picked against him once in like five years. Yep,

1322
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: and that was the time they won.

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly on a number two.

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01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 3: Gentlemen might so Mahomes is one.

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: Number two, PFF has number two Lamar Jackson. ESPN does not, okay,

1326
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, No, he's number three, number.

1327
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: So ESPN does not hold on.

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: No, No, he's not even top four or not even

1329
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 3: top three.

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01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: Burrow, Joe Burrow is number two on the ESPN list.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to count his injury stuff, Like,

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: just do the ESPN list for play. Indulge me for

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: a second. Sure, if you were starting a franchise right now,

1334
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: and you could pick anybody in the NFL, you would

1335
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: pick Mahomes first, Yep, right. I do not believe these

1336
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: general managers would pick Burrow second because of the injuries.

1337
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: If he wasn't hurt, then yes you would. Makes sense.

1338
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: He's the only guy to beat Mahomes in the postseason,

1339
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: him and Brady. That's it.

1340
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: But like, but he is hurt.

1341
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: But he is hurt, and that's part of it. So

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: I kind of reject the notion that that they would

1343
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: take him third because of the injury stuff.

1344
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, if I were going to make my

1345
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: own list at number two of all these guys that

1346
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: are ranked, I would put Herbert. I love Herbert, I

1347
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: just like I think Alan is a little.

1348
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: A little too wild with the football, a little reckless, yeah,

1349
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: justin Herbert's a stud.

1350
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: I think Alan should be ahead of Burrow on this,

1351
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: and I think he should be ahead of Lamar on this.

1352
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: I think Alan should be I think Alan. I love everybody,

1353
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: I mean everybody. What's on to love with Herbert? Allen

1354
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: has a lot on his plate, rolling and running and

1355
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: all that.

1356
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: They're not exactly loading him up.

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: To me, he is like the he's kind of like

1358
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: the epitome of like franchise quarterback. Like once you get

1359
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: past Mahomes, I think of Allen as like, yes man,

1360
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: they only go as he goes.

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: So ESPN he's taking him a long way.

1362
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: The precipice.

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: ESPN has Mahomes one, Burrow two, Allen three, Lamar four.

1364
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Speaker 3: Okay, your top four.

1365
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 4: PFF has Mahomes one, Lamar two, Burrow three, Allen four.

1366
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's the consensus tope top four.

1367
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go for number five. Now, number five,

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna go. I think it's gonna be

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Dak.

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Speaker 4: Is it.

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: The other people I'm considering here are Herbert, Herbert, and Stroud.

1372
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: That might be a little too high for Stroud, but

1373
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna comes, gonna be in the top ten. I

1374
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: think he's in the top ten of this list now.

1375
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go. So you went Herbert five or

1376
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: Dak or Dak five, Dak five. I'll go Hurts five.

1377
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: I can tell you p f F has justin Herbert

1378
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: number five. ESPN at number five, Matthew Stafford.

1379
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: That's a bit aggressive.

1380
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: NFL coaches, general managers and players love him, love him,

1381
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: love him now.

1382
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: Stafford is number seven on the PFF list.

1383
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 3: Herbert six.

1384
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: Stafford was really good last year with a with no crowd.

1385
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: Herbert is sixth on the ESPN one He's so good.

1386
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is sixth on the PFF O.

1387
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: Dak seven Herbert Herbert needs to take advantage of Jim Harbaugh.

1388
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: Yes now, yes, he needs to.

1389
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: He needs to get to the postseason.

1390
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: I need Harbor to take advantage what Harvard.

1391
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: Played in one postseason game that gave up them when

1392
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: Al Michaels was asleep with Tony Dungee. Yeah, I love Al,

1393
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: but they were one of the worst calls of a

1394
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: game ever, ever, ever, probably.

1395
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: Cost him the following year because NBC took him off

1396
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: the playoff game.

1397
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: Well didn't they bring him in?

1398
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: They were they were, He had an agreement that he

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01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 4: would do the playoff game, and they went with Noah Eagle.

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean he was him and but a

1401
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: lot I think some of that was Dongee too, because

1402
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: a doungee was awful, just an absolute zonk number seven

1403
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: gentlemen seven for ESPN.

1404
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mentioned PFF had Stafford at seven.

1405
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, well, that feels like a Dak spot right

1406
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: seven for ESPN.

1407
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

1408
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: C J.

1409
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: Stroud, Oh man, there it is.

1410
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Dak completed seventy percent of his passes, led

1411
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: the league in passing touchdowns, and I think he had

1412
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 3: a thirty Let's see, it was a pretty outrageous. Dak

1413
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: Prescott last year threw for forty five hundred yards, sixty

1414
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: nine point five percent completions, which was number one, thirty

1415
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: six touchdowns which was number one, nine picks, and a

1416
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: quarterback rating of one oh five point nine which was

1417
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: also number one.

1418
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: Dak has a little of there. I think Herbert and

1419
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: Dak are kind of in similar spots where now Dak's

1420
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: won a lot more than Herbert. I mean, his teams

1421
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: have won the divisions, He's got some of that, but

1422
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: like they need to do something in the postseason. You

1423
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: need to have a little run, yeah, and they just

1424
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: haven't had that and usually, I mean Herbert just has

1425
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: the one game and Dak in the postseason has fallen

1426
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 2: on his face a lot. Yeah.

1427
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 4: True, all right, both publications have the same at number eight.

1428
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: That's got to be the hurt spot then, right, is

1429
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: that Jalen Hurts.

1430
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,479
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Rogers, what.

1431
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: Do you do with him coming off the injury?

1432
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is number eight, So Dak Prescott is nine.

1433
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is number ten, is number ten in the

1434
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: ESPN poll.

1435
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: So that means Jalen Hurt is gonna.

1436
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: He wasn't on it.

1437
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna. I think it's gonna be Rock

1438
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: Party or Jared Goff.

1439
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: Party should be on these lists.

1440
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: The absolutely should be on the list. Social Jared Goff.

1441
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 4: Honestly, Jared gov is number nine on the ESPN. Rock

1442
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 4: Party is not in the top ten.

1443
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: All right, so we need nine and ten from PFF. Yeah,

1444
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: they gotta have party. They love party.

1445
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 3: No really, no, I can't believe pretty.

1446
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: Then Jalen Hurts his number nine.

1447
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh I think you said Hurts wasn't on the list, not.

1448
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: On the ESPs. This is PF and C. J. Stroud

1449
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 4: was number ten to round up PFF. Now PFF also

1450
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: had has their entire thirty two. Yeah, Rock Party was thirteen.

1451
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: They listed Jordan Love at eleven and Trevor Lawrence at twelve,

1452
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: and then perty Ihad a party. Yeah, uh Tua is fourteen.

1453
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins was fifteen.

1454
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: Wow.

1455
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: Number sixteen on PFF was GoF I mean Gough.

1456
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a little bit.

1457
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyler Murray was seventeen.

1458
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: Yes, give me GiB a or I'll invite anybody give

1459
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: me a guest. The stats on Jared Goff last year,

1460
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 3: and remember this is a team that won their division,

1461
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 3: that won that went to the NFC Championship Game, and

1462
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: quite frankly, with some maybe better decision making, goes to

1463
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

1464
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to say sixty six percent completion six forty

1465
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 2: three hundred yards.

1466
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 3: Forty five seventy five second in the NFL.

1467
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: And I'd say a three to one touchdown interception.

1468
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: Thirty and twelve. That's pretty good. Yeah, well, you're very good.

1469
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 3: That much better than Gibbe.

1470
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: But I knew he was great, But I mean that's

1471
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,520
Speaker 2: he's honest to god, he's one of the most disrespected

1472
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: players we've seen in the last decade.

1473
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 3: He's become like the mid McVeigh, the trashpreciate.

1474
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: It like, look, cousin McVeigh did the deal. I think

1475
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: it's like this big shadow over Goff. And the reality

1476
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: is is that McVeigh viewed it as I need. It's

1477
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: unfair to compare him to Stafford, is the is my issue? Yes,

1478
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: that Stafford at hit five quarterback in the league when

1479
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: he's healthy and when he's at his best, that's what

1480
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: he is. He's that type of talent, that type of

1481
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: arm talent, that type of toughness, all those things, leadership,

1482
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: all the intangible stuff Stafford has. So comparing golf to

1483
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: him is is the problem. So so that puts Goff

1484
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: in a tough spot. But the dude is won everywhere

1485
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: he's been. He's played in a Super Bowl, he got

1486
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: the Lions to the press suppific Super Bowl. Yes, he

1487
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: was great in the NFC Championship Game. Yes, So like

1488
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,440
Speaker 2: I think he's wildly disrespected.

1489
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 3: All right, here's another party, party not being in the

1490
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 3: top ten, and yeah, maybe Kyle's good, but Garoppolo never

1491
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: did this party last year. And eighty yards nine point

1492
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: six yards per attempt, okay, nine point six. Any guesses

1493
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 3: as to what second was second place?

1494
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if anyone else was in the nines.

1495
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: I would think it would be in.

1496
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 3: The eighth and a half second amongst Like, I'm looking

1497
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: at the passing leaders of the league. So people that

1498
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: are actually playing quarterback. On the first page, which goes

1499
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: all the way down to Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow actually

1500
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: had fewer passing yards last year than both Kirk cousins,

1501
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs and Joshups. He actually had fewer passing yards

1502
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: last year than Desmond Ridder. He had five hundred fewer

1503
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 3: passing yards last year than Desmond Ridder on twenty fewer attempts.

1504
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 3: Go ahead and wrap your brain around that.

1505
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: Wow, he played ten games.

1506
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean ridd Yeah.

1507
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: We're talking twenty passing times for five hundred yards.

1508
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild.

1509
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,520
Speaker 3: So brock Party average nine point six yards per attempt.

1510
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: Second in the league was two to eight point three.

1511
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: Third was c. J. Stroud eight point two. So we're

1512
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 3: talking a yard and a half per attempt that he

1513
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 3: was better sixty nine point four percent completion, second only

1514
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: to Dak thirty one touchdowns on the year, which put

1515
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: him third in the league. Eleven picks Quarterback rating actually

1516
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: had it wrong on Dat's one of five point nine

1517
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: because Perty didn't get a dash. He's at one hundred

1518
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: and thirteen. Here's the other one. Brock Perty led the

1519
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: NFL with seventy two completions of more than twenty yards.

1520
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: Brock Purty led the NFL with fourteen completions of more

1521
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: than forty yards.

1522
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: Mister Bishop in the front row, what if brock Perty,

1523
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: we're Trey Lance.

1524
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: What if brock Purty so we're Trey.

1525
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 2: Lance, second pick in the draft has done this, he

1526
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: would be he would be anointed, he would be the

1527
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 2: next grade, he'd be.

1528
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: On this list.

1529
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but because of he is, he is pulled

1530
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: back by where he was drafted and because of the

1531
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: way he looks. He looks like a kid.

1532
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: Have you watched the receiver at all? Yeah, he comes

1533
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: off as like like where Brady and these guys some

1534
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: of is the stars of their team. He comes off

1535
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: as the little kid that's happy to be there. But

1536
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: he's a baller.

1537
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean he throws it right on the money, That's

1538
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, if he were Lance and he

1539
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: was drafted second overall, we would be talking about him

1540
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: as an MVP. You'd he probably could have been top

1541
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: three in the NV.

1542
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: But it's crazy he is.

1543
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: He's being held back by his draft where he was drafted.

1544
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: Them not winning, like, for example, they win the Super

1545
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 3: Bowl I think it's a completely different conversation, maybe for

1546
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: him because he's from a production standpoint, vastly outdone what

1547
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 3: Brady did early in his career. I'm I mean, oh,

1548
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 3: it's a different league, I know that, but I'm saying

1549
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: relative to his peers even yes, you know what I mean,

1550
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: he is. It's not like they're hiding him. He threw

1551
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: it five hundred and seventy nine. Uh, they threw it

1552
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: a ton last year. He actually threw it four hundred

1553
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: and forty four times and threw for forty two hundred

1554
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: and eight yards Like that is crazy. Through twenty five games,

1555
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes Mahomes had one hundred fewer yards and threw the

1556
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: ball one hundred and fifty times more.

1557
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can't all be Kyle's genius.

1558
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: No, it can't be.

1559
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: And he is, but it can't all be that. Twenty

1560
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: five starts, twenty five games played, fifty six fifty four

1561
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: sixty eight point seven completions, forty four touchdowns, fifteen picks,

1562
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: nine point two and nine point two, a rating of

1563
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: one to eleven point four. Twenty five starts, twenty and five,

1564
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: twenty one and four up in.

1565
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: Front of me.

1566
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be the PF or the Pro Football Reference

1567
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: would have that.

1568
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm guessing I don't think he has more than that's

1569
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: regular season you're talking, Yeah, I don't think he has

1570
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: more than five losses because.

1571
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: He didn't twenty and five.

1572
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 3: He didn't lose in the regular season last year or

1573
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 3: two years ago. I'm sorry, all right, Brock Purdy is

1574
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: twenty one. I guess it's twenty one, starts twenty five games.

1575
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: Twenty one starts seventeen and four as a starter all time,

1576
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: four and two in the playoffs. Playoffs drops a little bit,

1577
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: sixty two point six, six touchdowns, only one pick. Quarterback

1578
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 3: rating ninety seven in the playoffs, eight yards.

1579
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: In attempt, really good, seventeen and four. Yeah, really really

1580
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 2: good guy. By the way, Huh, where's Deshaun on the PFF?

1581
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 4: Look, you want some bulletin board material for our guy,

1582
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: not that he doesn't need needed, but or not that

1583
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 4: he needs that, I should say Kyler Murray seventeen, Gino Smith,

1584
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams nineteen, Baker Mayfield twenty, Derek Carr twenty one,

1585
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson twenty two, Deshaun three.

1586
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

1587
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 4: Put that up on the Baltimoard. Well, I get it.

1588
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 4: He's got to show.

1589
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Go do it. Come on, Derek Carr comes all there,

1590
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: it's all there. Go do it, get healthy and do it.

1591
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: And you shut people up with your play pretty quickly. Yep,

1592
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: on that side of things, all right. Coming up next,

1593
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: we'll continue with our position previews. Heading into camp. We

1594
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: are in the linebacker Next to listen of Cleveland Browns

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1604
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: just must The Vegas ones must be gone. Scoop those

1605
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: up because we were doing Vegas and New Orleans. Now

1606
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: we're just doing New Orleans.

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: That's right. And listen, I've clearly I sold Vegas. You

1608
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 3: gotta sell the big easy. That's your place.

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 2: I think it's uh. It is a city that is

1610
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want it to be. You want a little

1611
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: bit of romance, except for well it is Garden District.

1612
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: You all right safe there? I think you're I think

1613
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: there's certain places. Depends on your definition of clean. That's

1614
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: not really helping with us. Were trying to sell this

1615
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: by the way, people are having too good of a time.

1616
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: Damn good a time too. It is a place where

1617
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: you can go with buddies. It's a place you can

1618
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: go with significant others. It is not a place for families,

1619
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: but everything else in between. It checks off the list

1620
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: in a very very big way. And you will eat

1621
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: as good as you can. Yeah, great music.

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: We came across, We came across.

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1624
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: You stumble into places there that we did. I remember

1625
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 2: this was right around I was down there for a

1626
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: national championship once and it was buzzing everywhere, and we

1627
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: had gone to dinner at a bou sean I think

1628
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Anyway, we come around and we stumbled

1629
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: into a place and there was kind of a decent crowd,

1630
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of buzz, and like trombone Shorty was

1631
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: playing and You're like, that's just something that only happens there.

1632
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: You know, there's places where that happens, and it's it's there.

1633
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: I think it's a really cool city. I like it

1634
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: a lot. I think it's like a lot like Vegas.

1635
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: You can gamble, you can do all that stuff, all

1636
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: the fun and for volity. It's a forty eight hour,

1637
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: two night, three days at best, flying on Friday, Friday night,

1638
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: Saturday night three Sunday get out or flying Saturday, Saturday night,

1639
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: Sunday night out, Monday, two nights is your limit. Anything

1640
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 2: other than that it gets loose, but you'll have fun.

1641
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 2: I promise you that. All right, time for a position preview.

1642
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: We are in the line back of room and for

1643
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: some details we now.

1644
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 4: Go to duck Dizzy.

1645
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: You know, I think this is a room where you've

1646
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: got a lot of continuity, but for the first time

1647
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: in a while, you actually have a little bit of

1648
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: change and continuity in the sense that it's Jason Tarver

1649
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: once again. Continuity in the sense that j Oka is back,

1650
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 3: Tony Fields is back, my mood Diabate is back. But

1651
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 3: you also have a big change, and that is the

1652
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: change of no more Anthony Walker Junior no more Sioni

1653
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: Taki Taki, two guys who unfortunately have battled injuries, but

1654
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: were very much kind of like heart and soul type

1655
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: guys on the defense leaders there. But what the Browns

1656
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 3: did is they go out and they replace them with

1657
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: Jordan Hicks. And Jordan Hicks and Devin Bush. I would say,

1658
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: but Jordan Hicks is going to be the starting Mike

1659
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: linebacker for the Browns. Is a guy who is a

1660
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion with Jim Schwartz in Philly in twenty seventeen.

1661
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 3: This is let me just run you through his last

1662
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: five seasons in the league and see if any of

1663
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: this sounds appealing to anybody here. Twenty nineteen three picks,

1664
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: six passes defense, two forced fund one and a half sacks,

1665
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty tackles, eleven tackles for loss. Twenty

1666
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: twenty also in Arizona, one pick, four passes defense, one

1667
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen tackles, eleven tackles for loss twenty one.

1668
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: In Arizona he had five passes defense, He had two

1669
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: fumble recoveries, four sacks, one hundred and sixteen tackles, seven

1670
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 3: tackles for loss. Two years ago in Minnesota, in seventeen

1671
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 3: games he had a pick. He had as well ten

1672
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: passes defense. One of the better cover drop linebackers in

1673
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 3: the league of forced fumble, three sacks, one hundred and

1674
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 3: thirty tackles. Last year in just thirteen games, he had

1675
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 3: an interception, five passes defense to force fumble, two fumble

1676
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 3: recoveries including a touchdown, a sack, one hundred and seven tackles,

1677
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 3: four tackles for loss. So five straight seasons over one

1678
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: hundred tackles. He's been a captain everywhere he's gone. He's

1679
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: one of the guys. He's elite in coverage, as I

1680
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: talked about. In the last five seasons, he's got six

1681
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: picks and he has got man thirty passes defense. So

1682
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: this is a very very good player against the run,

1683
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: sure tackler, he can blitz a little bit a couple

1684
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: of seasons, three seasons with three or more sacks, and

1685
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 3: then he is great in coverage, and he gives us

1686
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: that true three down every single play linebacker, which is

1687
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: not something that we've really had in that MIC's out

1688
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: where I'm talking about a guy that is going to

1689
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: play ninety to one hundred percent of the snaps, and

1690
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: that's what you're getting in Jordan Hicks. So you've got Hicks,

1691
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: You've got j Oka. Joka, pro bowler, last year, megastar

1692
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: in the making, and I'd say he already is a megastar.

1693
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 3: One hundred tackles last year twenty tackles for lost, the

1694
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 3: only player in the league to hit that dual threshold.

1695
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 3: According to Pro Football Reference, it's one hundred and one

1696
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 3: tackles twenty tackles for loss. He also had three and

1697
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 3: a half sacks, two picks, six passes defense, and a

1698
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 3: force fumble. Twenty tackles for lost. Third in the NFL.

1699
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: The only player off ball who had twenty or more.

1700
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 3: It was two defense, and it was Daniel Hunter and

1701
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,839
Speaker 3: Max Crosby that were ahead of him. The only players

1702
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: who have ever had the kind of numbers he had

1703
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 3: last year at the linebacker position in twenty ten was

1704
01:20:52,600 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: Luke Keikley one year and Devin White one Year's who

1705
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 3: the other linebacker there, Levonte David, Levante David one year, Yes,

1706
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: and it was Tampa linebacker Levante David. I mean, we're

1707
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 3: talking all rarefy the air that Joka was operating in,

1708
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: and so we're gonna be in two linebackers more often

1709
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: than not when you get into three linebackers. Devin Bush

1710
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 3: has joined the Cleveland Browns from her first round pick

1711
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 3: out of the Michigan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. You've got

1712
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: Diabate and undrafted free agent new year ago Tony Fields,

1713
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: who's just played better and better every year that he's

1714
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 3: been with the Cleveland Browns and actually had his best

1715
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 3: season of his career last year. Thirty four tackles. He

1716
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: scored a touchdown again because all he does, he guy

1717
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 3: scores touchdowns every year. He had the fumble recovery in Indye,

1718
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: he had the touchdown on the pick six uh in

1719
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 3: Houston the year before, so he's there. You drafted Nathaniel Watson,

1720
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: which six two two thirty five was the SEC's defensive

1721
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 3: Player of the year. The SEC's defensive player of the year.

1722
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: It's quite a good conference, so you like maybe what

1723
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: he can do. And then you've got some of the

1724
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: guys Charlie Thomas, Caleb Johnson, and Winston Reid battling to

1725
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 3: kind of stay in the program. I guess five linebackers

1726
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 3: make the roster, maybe six, But we talked about the

1727
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: numbers are going to be tough to come by, and

1728
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: they may opt to go with five linebackers and have

1729
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: a few on the practice squad. So that'll be interesting

1730
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 3: how it shakes out there. But Joka, Hicks, Tony Fields

1731
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: Bush probably the top four favorites, Watson, Diabat, Charlie Thomas,

1732
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: kil Johnson, Winston reprobably competing for one or two spots.

1733
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to think, well, how I guess

1734
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: he's just a thumper is probably why. But the idea

1735
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: that Nathaniel Watson falls to the sixth round and he's

1736
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: just a tackling machine, I think he's probably a two

1737
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: down player, Yeah, six two five, So that's and he

1738
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 2: can blay.

1739
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: What do you have? Did he have like ten sacks

1740
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: last year? That he had a lot of sacks as well?

1741
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: He's he was very productive.

1742
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting. That type of production in

1743
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: that conference is real. H that's a real one for sure.

1744
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: How do you how do you make sense of how

1745
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: little postseason recognition j Oka got h I.

1746
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 3: Mean, he made the Pro Bowl and was miscategorized, so

1747
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: they actually made it. He made it kind of as

1748
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 3: an edge rusher, which shows how good they thought he

1749
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 3: was that he needed to be in there. I don't

1750
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: think that he's getting as much buzz going into this

1751
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: year maybe as he should. But there's no doubt anybody

1752
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 3: who watched the game in Houston he was the best

1753
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: player on the field in a game in which the

1754
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 3: Browns were obviously beaten, But he was the best player

1755
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 3: on the field, by the way. Nathaniel Watson in twenty

1756
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: twenty two one hundred and thirteen tackles, twelve tackles for lost,

1757
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 3: six sacks and a pick. Twenty twenty three, one hundred

1758
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: and thirty seven tackles, thirteen tackles for lost, ten sacks

1759
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: and a pick. I mean that's pretty darn good in.

1760
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: The salon of production in a great league. Yeah, yeah,

1761
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 2: there's a ton of it. And you know, I'm not

1762
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: suggesting that he's.

1763
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: Got to be something with his athletic profile.

1764
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: Stiff hips probably, but sometimes you can just play like

1765
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: and I'm not suggesting that he's going to be the

1766
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: type of pick that MJ. Emerson was, But Emerson had

1767
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: some of that coming out Mississippi State. We were like,

1768
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: why is he not? Why he get a drafted higher?

1769
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: And then when he came in here, We're like, I

1770
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: remember the very first training camp practice for him him,

1771
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: Like we when we saw him right out there, like,

1772
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: who in the hell is that? Like that guy's got

1773
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: to look to him, And I'm curious to see if

1774
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 2: if Watson has a similar not suggesting that type of assent,

1775
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, no, but if sometimes people get missed.

1776
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: Yes, if he can turn into Sioni Taki Taki or

1777
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 3: even mac Wilson, who's had a very nice career that

1778
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,959
Speaker 3: is still ongoing and signed a big deal this offseason

1779
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: with Arizona, that's you know, that would be a great

1780
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 3: draft pick right there.

1781
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 2: At that point, we had Devin Bush in here about

1782
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 2: a month ago. Other than a half ago, maybe about

1783
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: as easy a guy to root for as you're gonna find. Yep, yep,

1784
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 2: incredibly likable. I think people forget because he's been in

1785
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: the league since nineteen. He's just twenty five, and he tours.

1786
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 3: His ACL was against US. I want to say Week

1787
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 3: five of twenty twenty and that Steelers blowout because rookie here,

1788
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: he had Craig Are you looking at stats right now,

1789
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull it up. He had one hundred tackles,

1790
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 3: I think as a rookie now was the guy when

1791
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: they moved up to get him, you know, when nobody

1792
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 3: wanted him. Not the biggest linebacker, he's kind of the

1793
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: opposite of Nathaniel Watson, but absolutely the guy can run

1794
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:08,879
Speaker 3: and he can make plays.

1795
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 2: So he had one hundred and nine tackles his rookie season.

1796
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,919
Speaker 2: He was third in the Defensive Rookie of the Year balloting.

1797
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Right nine tackles for loss that year, two interceptions that

1798
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 2: year he was a ballhawk, had a sack, and then

1799
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: he gets hurt in year two, yep, and then he's

1800
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: he's just never quite been the same from a production standpoint.

1801
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: But if they the fact that he's still just twenty five,

1802
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: twenty six, LEGI to believe the potentially there's a little

1803
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: bit of something that stud I mean total stuff.

1804
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: Stud. Yeah, I like the room. Obviously, we love the coach.

1805
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 3: They're gonna fly around to the ball and I think

1806
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 3: you know your your bass is your nickel. So Hicks

1807
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: and j Oka, that's a that's a darn good tandem.

1808
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: And a lot talking to a lot of people around here,

1809
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 3: they think JK is going to be even better benefit

1810
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 3: from playing next to Hicks and becoming better because Hicks

1811
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: is just so smart, especially with this defense.

1812
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think I was here the

1813
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: day that Hicks didn' Hicks come up here for an interview.

1814
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 2: You did the interview with him, but I was a

1815
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: five on the show, Like, I don't remember I.

1816
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 3: Did one with him downstairs. I don't know if we

1817
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: interviewed him in here.

1818
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 4: We did not interview him in here yet.

1819
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: I remember listening to it, whether I was here or

1820
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: on the road. I remember listening to the interview of

1821
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: being like whoa and he's an ohioan total YEP leader.

1822
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: He's a kettering altar kid. He went to Texas, he

1823
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,560
Speaker 2: was a five star linebacker and got out of town

1824
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: and one of those guys who you know, I've always

1825
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: kept up with him. It's one of those kids you fall.

1826
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: You hear his name in recruiting and you're just curious

1827
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: to see how it goes. So but everything you've always

1828
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: heard from him was leadership, leadership, leadership, like in space yep.

1829
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's a nice room with a superstar

1830
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: in the midst with Jay. Okay, you're listening to Cleveland

1831
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: Brown daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1832
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed Now

1833
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eighth fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1834
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in Cleveland, Bronze Daily, A fifty

1835
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland. Are you at all prepared for NFL players

1836
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: here next week at this time?

1837
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: No?

1838
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 4: No?

1839
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 3: In fact, I can't. Where did June and July go?

1840
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 4: Well?

1841
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Mine was spent in flyover states because I'll be in

1842
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: Indianapolis this weekend too, so that's where mine was.

1843
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I don't know it. It's we knew

1844
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 3: it though we called it. We had the I knew it,

1845
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, early June, We're like this is going to

1846
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: be gone and and and it is.

1847
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: It feels like I know, I'm sure it's the same time,

1848
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: but it feels like this is inching up sooner year

1849
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: in and year out. I feel like my first year

1850
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 2: here and even my first training camp here, it felt

1851
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: like it was like August. Let's go, Yes, but this

1852
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: is like July twentieth.

1853
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 3: Third week of July. Yeah, not even last week. I

1854
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 3: you think it used to be last week?

1855
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: Okay, July twenty seven, twenty eighth, Fine, I'll deal with it,

1856
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: but like, man, oh baby, yeah, we're rolling quarterbacks and

1857
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: rookies here on Monday.

1858
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 3: It's wild. That's wild. By the way, Paulas, Yeah, thanks

1859
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 3: for coming out on Saturday.

1860
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 4: Dude, appreciate it.

1861
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: You were fantastic. Thank you so much.

1862
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Thank you. Man, No, it was it was awesome. I

1863
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: saw on this on the socials that he was in

1864
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: the house.

1865
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1866
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: Go man, that's really nice.

1867
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's very hard.

1868
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 3: I say, thank you.

1869
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: In fact, there are the Hall of Fame game teams

1870
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: are reporting tomorrow.

1871
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Some teams have already reported.

1872
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 2: The Bears do not have Caleb Williams or Roma Dounzie signed. Really,

1873
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: unless it just happened, they may sign during the shot. Okay,

1874
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: so he signed during Caleb Williams is not signed. What

1875
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: are we doing?

1876
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 4: I thought we alleviated thisted.

1877
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: So the problem with Williams is he doesn't have n

1878
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 2: f l p A representation.

1879
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 4: So this road again.

1880
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't have nfl PA approved representation. So let

1881
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: me get the agent to the stars on the horn.

1882
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Let's go paratroop in and Simson give me some merch.

1883
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: We'll wait for that for a long time. Still on

1884
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: the wait for that. But so because of that, because

1885
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: it's the intricate stuff that only an agent would be

1886
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: easy at handling, such as like okay, like when can

1887
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: the guaranteed money be canceled? When?

1888
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 4: Where?

1889
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: When do you want your guaranteed money? Like all of

1890
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: those things they're having to work out. He has lawyers,

1891
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 2: but he doesn't have an nfl P a certified agent.

1892
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: So where they go.

1893
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Get they'll get that taken care of.

1894
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: You would think, I'm not concerned that stop screwing around.

1895
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 3: He's already been named the starting quarterback.

1896
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1897
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they get a dune' an, so that'll that'll

1898
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: alleviate some of that. So you are going on vacation,

1899
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: enjoy yourself.

1900
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, and then I'm back in your back Monday.

1901
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 3: And then that's it.

1902
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: That's it, you're done, You're done no more. Well, you

1903
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 2: got that vacation in West Virginia to look forward to.

1904
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: That'll be a nice, nice vacation, a place and it's

1905
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: America's playground, America's resort, all sorts of I mean, he

1906
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: does do a fine job of doing do you want

1907
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 2: to get in the ring with me?

1908
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 4: Brother? The girl does a fine job of enjoying himself.

1909
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 2: Give me, give me, God bless him. Has been working

1910
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: his tail off. He's been got something in the computer.

1911
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: I put a ball on a real high tee about

1912
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 2: about you going on vacation of the Greenbrier. He flipped around.

1913
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 2: It was the fastest spin to a mic I've ever seen.

1914
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: He was so ready, he was so ready.

1915
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 3: It's an outrageous action.

1916
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, I have any time. You don't have

1917
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 2: any time. We gotta go, We gotta go, no time,

1918
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 2: next level of time over under rounds played five at Cleveland.

1919
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

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01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,919
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and a fifty ESPN Cleveland