WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What Went Wrong vs. GB? 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.920 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.800 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.160 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.520 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:26.639 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:31.360 Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October eight, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.440 episode number fifty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.879 live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.319 and we got a lot, Man, we got so much 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.440 to talk about today. The Cowboys lose. They are now 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.400 two and three on the season. They lose a game 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.239 to the Green Bay Packers that just I don't know, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.199 It just seems to be more of the same from 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.599 the standpoint of how they match up against these Packers. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.600 We talked about it all last week, Dave, you and Nick. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.880 I think I can't remember who exactly started saying that 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 God was coming to town, but I will I won't 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.600 call him God, but I will say the dude is 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.319 about as close to that as you would get on 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.880 a football field. Um, Aaron Rodgers just I mean, it's 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.560 just amazing what he does with the football, especially in 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.440 crunch time. Yeah, I think that was that was Nick 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.640 that coined that, and it was kind of facetious, I 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.119 feel like. But uh no, Nick, facetious, I know, right, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.880 Uh but yeah, I mean that's that's the night, you know. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.840 I hate to say I told you so, but that's 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.959 more or less how I saw that thing playing out. Sorry, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.759 uh yeah, I mean what else do you want? I mean, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:41.240 that's I'm unbelievable the things he can younger version. Yikes, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:46.920 that's terrifying. That's terrifying. No, you said it, right, I 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.000 mean you said that. I mean they probably should be 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.120 scared of him, and and they they weren't as scared 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.440 as they probably should have been because they, you know, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.920 at some point in the game, they still you gotta 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.320 go stop him. And that's why I don't have any 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.840 really any issues with how the game kind of played 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.440 out from the Cowboys. I mean, he could have done 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.000 a few plays here and there, but they went out 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.920 and they put it on their defense to stop the 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.960 guy for a minute, and they couldn't do it. I mean, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.600 that's just as simple as that. I don't know why 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.920 it's really we shouldn't over oversimplify it. They had the game, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.400 they went out there, they were to go nine minutes 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.240 with the ball eight forty three on a drive, I 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.040 mean one thirteen to go. What else can you ask for? 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.560 Thirty or forty more seconds? That's running, I mean running 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.840 thirty or more, sorry, four seconds off the clock. It's 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.639 a Monday morning, and we will get to I will 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.079 say this to Get today afternoon, we're going to get 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.040 We're going to get to those details, and I think 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.639 they're worth discussing. Um. And I do want to give 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.560 you a chance to kind of sound off, because I 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.440 think you had picks all over this board. One of 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.600 them obviously had to hit right. It's a good point. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.320 I mean, like, I'm glad you didn't let her sweet Oh, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.720 I'm not let lie that I was. I was talking 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.760 to her all about it yesterday. I'm not letting this 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.280 lad on this, you know. I mean, I get that 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.720 people are mad at the result of this game, and 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.520 so am I. But at the same time, I'm like, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.160 are you really surprised with the outcome of this game? Now? 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.359 I was telling Nick after towards the end of the game, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.760 right after the game. I think it was. I'm like, well, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.680 there's some positive side to it. He's like, what kind 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.520 of positive can you find out of this? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.320 that's that's exactly not what I said. Yes, you did. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.480 You did say that. I absolutely didn't say that. We're 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.560 about to do our first word and you said there's 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.800 a lot of positives, and I did not say a lot. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.640 And I said, but just don't bring him up on 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.640 the air because nobody wants to hear about him. I didn't. Okay, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.280 I think Derek gave me the floor to talk right now. Yeah, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.960 thank you very much. Misunderstood me with it. No, you 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.040 did say that. I'm like, okay, whatever, Nick, But you know, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:57.280 I the the positive things. Did you say some positive 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.280 things there? I did? I did, and I think I agree. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.080 I actually agree with both of you guys. I think 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.600 there are some positive things. I don't think fans really 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.600 care about it. Oh, I know, I know. I mean, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.880 at the end of the day, they still lost. What game? 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.360 What positives? What are we talking about? You want to 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.560 get to the positive. I think that what they did 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.560 in the fourth quarter offensively, I look at that and say, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.600 maybe there is a sign that this offense is can 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.200 actually start to run the ball. Now, what flips that 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.480 on his head is the first three quarters they couldn't 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.520 run the ball for anything. So you kind of wonder 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.640 which was really the truth of the matter in that game. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.680 But they certainly in the fourth quarter they got the 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.800 running game going, and you would think that was a 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.280 time in the game when the Packers should have been 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.320 throwing everything at stopping the run, and they were able 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.719 to run effectively. If the only positive I'm willing to 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.320 concede from this entire game is that Dak is the dude, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.640 Like he's awesome. I'm really even you know, there's things 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.679 you can criticize him for. There always are win or lose, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.760 but I'm not worried about like a sophomore slump or 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.240 whatever you want to criticize him for. I thought he 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.520 played phenomenally, and I also don't care because they lost, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.800 so right, Yeah, that's that's exactly what I said, is, yes, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.680 there were some things that you can point to and 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.960 say I liked this particular thing about that game, but 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.880 at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.960 they lost the game. That's about as much as I'm 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.440 willing to concede though, like I don't. I don't care 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.400 that they got the running game cranking in the fourth 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.880 quart right, we all, I just said, it doesn't matter. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:29.640 It doesn't make a more consistent offense from the Cowboys, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.960 did you not? I thought it looked it was the 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.719 same thing as last week. No, really, we got we 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.520 got to see Jason wit and more involved would definitely, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.440 which definitely helped them. We got to see Cole basically 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.240 involved two touchdowns from him. Yea, So we did see 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.440 them do different things that clearly helped him. They moved 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.719 the ball on and off, they struggled to run, and 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.800 they found it. They had more success, arguably in the 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.320 second half than the first fourth quarter, even first three. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.840 It's yeah, I mean, I I get your point. I 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.719 guess they were a little more consistent. I think the 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.800 quality of the defense probably has a little bit to 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.080 do with that. Um, I mean it. Yeah, it doesn't 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.760 change well, it doesn't change the result. And it wasn't 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.160 drastically different enough that I'm that it really made me 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.200 like sit forward in my seat. You know, it didn't. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.640 It didn't. It wasn't drastically different enough to where you 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.240 think it means something of the future. Is that what 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.040 you're kind of saying, Yes, right, all right, let's dive 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.240 into some of the No, let's dive into some of 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:27.800 the details, because I do think there were a lot 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.800 of different details we need to hit in this game. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.200 And I want to start first with with the coaching decision, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.560 because I think that's something that's probably being talked about 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.400 by more fans, and even Jerry talked about it after 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.240 the game. You got basically, it's a minute twenty four 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.680 left in the fourth quarter, Cowboys have the ball, second 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.000 and one on the Green Bay eleven, and they make 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.200 the decision that they want to pass on that play. Now, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.679 obviously they throw the pass. It's incompletely stops the clock. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.599 By the way, Green Bay still has a time out left. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.080 The thinking there is, if you run the ball, even 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.919 if you don't get in the end zone there, you 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.440 at least for screen Bay to take that final time out. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.160 Without that final time out on that last drive, it 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.120 maybe changes what they're able to do. They were able 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:14.560 to run the ball a couple of times, and one 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.720 of the runs they actually needed a pretty good game. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.160 Maybe they don't do that if they don't have a 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.000 timeout because they don't feel like they have enough time 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.440 to do it. I want to get your opinions around 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.600 the table. What do you think of that coaching decision. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.760 Do you think it was a big blunder for them 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.440 or do you think it really didn't matter at the 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.000 end of the day. Let's start first with you, Nick. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.080 It mattered. It definitely mattered at the end of the day, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.360 you know. But at the time, I mean, you are 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.119 trying to score. I mean, there's you can't get cute 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.680 down there, so you have to score a touchdown one 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.000 hundred percent. Everyone knows that. And so you can we 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.240 look back now and go, oh, the way it played out, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.480 the way Dak ran it in for you know, eleven 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.880 yards or whatever. You're like, man, you sure would have 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.960 liked to have thirty more seconds off the clock and 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.520 their time out gone. So yeah, I don't know if 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.880 I wouldn't of throwing it on second down, there's no way. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.520 First of all, it's not a high percentage pass. It's 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.960 just not anymore. I mean, it's not a play. It's 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.800 a high percentage just to run the ball, get the 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.320 first down and do that. So yeah, I mean, I'm 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.760 not gonna sit there and crucify them because they have 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.200 to score a touchdown and they scored a touchdown. So 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.800 that's number one goal is to score touchdown and they did. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.040 And after what's his name dropped the ball Terrence Williams, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.960 they're gonna get to that too. That's one of those others. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.760 But after that that huge play, if anyone says, you 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 know what, they're gonna go seventeen plays, eighty four yards, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.439 they're gonna take off nine minutes of the clock and 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.400 they're gonna leave Aaron Rodgers for a minute thirteen to 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.160 go win the game. It's a lot, it's a lot 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.920 of time, but still but you're like, a I'll take that, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.959 and they did it. So they went and scored. I 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.720 don't know how you can really fault them. They scored, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.960 all right, Amber, I mean, I agree with nick. I 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.840 don't even want to get into days because it's gonna 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.640 be a man here. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be heated. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.200 But I agree with nick I Again, if you see 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.640 an opening, you're gonna run. You can't blame Dad. Now, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.000 I would have maybe done differently on the second down, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.040 but scoring the touchdown, and that's something that a lot 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.839 of people have been talking about on Twitter and all that. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.880 Like he said after, can you guys hear me? I 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.160 can't hear myself anyware. Okay, sorry, guys. Like Dak said 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.200 himself in the press conference, it's like their main goal 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.720 is to score a touchdown. They can't play around. That's 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.680 like playing with fire. That's what he said. You can't 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.960 play around and get like Nick said, cute with it. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.280 And the defense, they get paid to do their job, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.040 so you would expect this defense to be able to 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.800 get the job done, even though we know what this 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:49.080 defense is. And at the end of the day, you 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.720 just you just have to kind of trust them a 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.440 little bit and not put everything on the offense. But 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.800 the hold, I'm just saying I want to make a 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.360 distinction here because I want to be clear there are 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.920 two different areas here that we're talking about. I specifically 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.440 was talking about the play, the decision to throw the 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.960 ball on second down, and you introduced also the idea 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.079 of maybe Da going down rather than scoring. I think 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.440 those are two different things because one of them I 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.640 think is kind of ridiculous. To even think that Dad 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.400 should just go down to me is dumb because if 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.719 you do that and then the next play, you get 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.400 a penalty. Now you're back. Let's say you get a 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.600 holding call. Go back and look at the Rams game 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.240 when Frederick, they're on the goal line, gets a holding call, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.439 Like it happens. You get a holding call, you're back 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.440 at the eleven, and now you're putting in jeopardy your 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.960 ability to score. So I don't think that's even a question. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:37.960 You score when you have an opportunity to score. What 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.160 I'm specifically talking about here, though, is the decision that 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.600 they wanted to throw on second down. I think that's 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.040 one that is debatable. So on that one, do you 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.480 think that that was a big deal or not? Well, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.160 it clearly was. I mean I think Dad would have 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.840 definitely helped cut down some you know, trimmed down some 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.000 of that time that was left on the clock. But again, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.679 the coaching decision decisions that they make during game days, 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.120 everyone can get into it and not agree, not fully 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:14.400 agree with what they decide on there. So it's I'm 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.960 not I'm not gonna start talking crap about Jason Garrett, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.040 but some of their decisions, it's kind of like but 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.680 at the same time, I'm not in his position, so 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.840 we can judge all we want from the outside, but 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.480 we don't really know what's happening down there and what 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.600 they're going through. Dave nik a deep breath, let's go. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.400 First of all, I would I have not and would 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.560 not advocate for Dak Prescott to take a knee on 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.400 an obvious touchdown run. I don't, I don't. That's not smart. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.880 Um Having said that, that was catastrophic failure of coaching 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.120 decisions in the red zone in a situation like that, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.480 and one second down, yea, well, well the whole s 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.240 the whole thing. But yeah, the second down throw for sure. Yeah, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.120 you a minute twenty four left. Even if you just 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.559 run the ball into the line and try to get 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 a first down, you can take that down to forty seconds. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.360 You could presumably get them to burn their time out 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.200 or not if they want to hold it. For Aaron Rodgers, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.559 that's fine. The clock needed to be under forty seconds 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.240 when you scored that touchdown if you were going to 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.720 win that game. And I even I posted the tweet 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.480 last night on Twitter, Aaron Rodgers said his thought process 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.560 when he saw how much time was left was I'm 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.920 thinking touchdown. I'm thinking we're gonna win this game. We've 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.679 got the time, we've got the timeouts. Even if you 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.560 take it down to forty seconds, you can probably force 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.480 him to think field goal instead of touchdown, which changes 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.560 everything even just again just by running the ball, and 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.720 then you can still do your read option if you 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.160 want to and try to score. But I don't understand 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.440 why you're trying to pass right there. It's and I 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.440 get it. I get it. The object is to score. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.360 But you are playing the guy that we just referred 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.680 to as God. And it's okay to keep that in mind. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.520 It's okay to think about that. It's okay to say 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.320 I don't like this. For our defense, if we're giving 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.400 this guy that much time, we have to burn more time. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.800 And Nick is right to a point that it's hard 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.040 to ask for much more seventeen plays, eighty four yards, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.319 whatever it was in this situation against this guy. You 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.200 got to ask for more. You got to because we 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.400 have a game worth of evidence in this on this 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.440 particular afternoon, not to mention a month worth of other 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.800 evidence that this defense probably is not up to the task. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.800 I'm sorry if that's harsh. I know you Amber said, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.400 you know you have to trust your defense at some point. Why, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.360 why would you in any circumstance want to trust these 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.520 guys to stop one of the best to ever do it? Okay, 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.080 Dave ever do it? And sorry, one more one more point, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.040 which is, and you know this is hindsight if you 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.679 want to call it Monday morning quarterbacking. I'm oh so 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.040 serious when I say I'd rather lose that game twenty eight, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.240 twenty four trying to manipulate the clock and score on 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.800 my terms rather than put that game on the defense 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.120 against that quarterback. I'm dead serious because and you can 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.040 attest to this because I was standing right next to you. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.560 As soon as they scored that touchdown, I looked up 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.320 at the clock and I said, yeah, they're gonna lose 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.720 this game. And they did because they managed it that poorly. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.680 And it's it's not fair because that drive was a 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.360 thing of beauty. And you would like to think that 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.120 your defense is up to that challenge, but they're not. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.840 And you have to know that with every decision that 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.120 you make down there, you have they had to win 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.200 that game by bleeding that clock. You can't just hope 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.280 for the best against one of the best quarterbacks to 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.120 ever play. You have to know your team. You have 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.760 to knowing this defense. I don't think there's anything that 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.360 we've seen that suggests that this defense is going to 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.560 stop him, and that speaks, in my opinion, way more 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.040 to who Aaron Rodgers is as a player. Absolutely defense 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.000 is not I'll be the first person to tell you 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.440 that I don't think the defense is as bad as 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.000 they probably get credit for. But they're not up to 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.880 stopping Aaron Rodgers. It only made be three or four 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.000 defenses exactly that in that scenario would stop Aaron rod 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.440 You're the Seattle Seahawks by all means. Put it on 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.080 your defense to get a stop, and you might be 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.080 able to. But you might be able to. What have 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.240 you seen from the Dallas Cowboys defense really anytime in 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.800 the last five years that would give you confidence that 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.360 they're going to win? That I had none, and my 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.240 lack of faith was justified as it clearly turned out. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.760 So let's say the Cowboys did kill some time but 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.280 failed to scar a touch. Though I can live with 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.040 that easier knowing you can, you can live with it. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:32.080 Everyone would be pissed right now, I would. People are pissed. No, no, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.320 but hold on, but hold on. I think there's you're 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.400 assuming that by throwing the ball that that's going for 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.720 a touchdown, and running would mean you're not going for 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.800 a touchdown. I think if you run the ball, you 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.120 probably are still we don't know what would have happened, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.040 right You don't, You don't, But but all I'm saying 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:47.760 is I think that I think if you would have 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.960 lost trying to run the ball after by the way 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.040 in that drive and really in the fourth quarter, you'd 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.600 been running the ball right through them. I think if 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.720 you lost the game at that point, there would be 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.880 a certainly would be upset fans, But I think this 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.680 discussion would be different. The discussion would be your running 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.720 game felled you at the end, it didn't do anything 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.720 for the first three quarters, they got going in the 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.000 fourth quarter, and then when you needed it in crunch time, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.680 it failed you. That would be the discussion. But I 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.880 don't think it would be a discussion of mismanagement. And 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.920 I think that's the discussion now, is that people are 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.000 saying they mismanaged that. Finally, what is the phrase? And 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.880 I went back to this a lot last night, what 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:24.800 is the phrase that Jason Garrett loves to use about 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.920 his team hah, well, scratch crawl bye, say scratched. All 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.880 of these things are true. He wants to put his 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.000 players in the best position possible for them to succeed. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.120 He didn't do that yesterday. Whether it was his call, 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:43.240 Scottlandhan's call, whatever, I believe. I said this. I've said 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.080 this more times than I can count. The strength of 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.800 this team is their offense. They're only going to be 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.120 as good as their offense and specifically their running game, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.360 which did take a while to get going, but was 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.640 doing everything it wanted to by the end of that game. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.080 The strength of your team is not your defense. Against 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.120 a regular team, Trevor Simeon looked great against these guys. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.720 Why are you putting them out there hoping that they 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.119 can make it work against what I think is the 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.879 best quarterback in the NFL right now. That's not putting 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.520 them in a position to succeed. That's putting them in 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.080 a position to fail. And I get your point, and 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.680 hindsight is always twenty twenty, but I would rather take 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.119 my chances putting it on the strength of the team, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.679 the unit that's going to be the reason why the 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.600 Cowboys are successful, rather than asking the defense to pick 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.680 up the slack. Okay, well, then if that's really true, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.680 then this is a huge problem that goes a lot 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.399 deeper than this, because if your defense can't go and 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.080 do it in a minute ago, Jason Garrett should not 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.480 be faulted for putting given his team the lead with 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.199 a minute thirteen to go, if the defense is not 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.119 capable of doing it, then you've got the wrong coordinator, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.600 you've got the wrong personnel, you've got the wrong GM 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.080 or putting, you know, putting the players out there. I mean, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.439 what how many guys have to score touchdowns in the 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.560 AFC to think, all right, why are we've got why 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.760 do we have these players on the field if they 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.440 can't stop them for a minute thirteen? That is a 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.840 valid argument. It's a completely valid argument. It's a different 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.080 conversation though, because once you're inside the lines of this 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.000 game and you know what you're dealing with, well, and 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.960 let me let me back up to let me let 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.800 me just to clarify here, they don't need a different GM. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.680 They got a GM. Let's let's make sure we say 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.320 that the right way. But the decisions that they you know, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:28.480 we can talk about that later on because you know, look, 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.679 at the inactive yesterday, and you can realize that they 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.760 they've made some pretty bad decisions back in March. But 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.560 we'll talk about that at another time. But I just 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.200 think that one of those details. Yeah, you've you've got 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.439 I mean, I'm with you on second down. I mean, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.679 I don't I don't like to throw. I didn't I 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.640 didn't like the throw. Then I didn't like it. I mean, 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.360 I saw it all stems back to that, though. I'm 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.320 I'm not criticizing dak for not going down on the 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.919 obvious touchdown right and joy that whole drive. You can 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.280 say what you want about whatever went wrong, but there 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.520 was only one play, in my opinion, that was a problem. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.640 That was a decision to throw the ball, and that 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.120 decision I think changed the complexion of that game because 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.000 it would have taken some time off the clock. It 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.199 would have probably taken their last time out, and that 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.119 changes what Aaron Rodgers would have been able to do. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.680 It's quite possible Aaron Rodgers still could have driven the 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.080 field one hundred or down because that's Aaron Rodgers, or 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.119 kicked the field right. But the fact of the matter 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.199 is you had to give your your I agree with 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.720 you Dave. They had to give their team the best 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.520 chance to win, and giving them the best chance to 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.800 win mint taking it as taking that clock as far 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.240 down as they possibly could. And to me, that's about 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.159 not throwing that pass on second and one. It's it's grading, 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.240 it's graading on a curve, playing and simple and ideally, Yeah, 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.840 your defense should be able to stop Aaron. You hope, 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.560 so you would hope your defense with a minute and 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.960 fourteen can do the job. But I knew that they couldn't. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.320 And I would argue seventy five percent of the people 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.159 in the building saw that coming. It doesn't take a 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.399 rocket scientist to think, oh, man, one, fourteen and a 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.520 time out, Aaron Rodgers, that's trouble. Who's that twelve? Yeah, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.960 who's that number twelve? Guy? He's pretty good. It's pretty good. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.280 So if I am just a you know, a slappy 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.320 who stopped playing football in grade school, and I can 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.000 figure that out, I'm I just it wasn't good enough. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.240 It was really good, and that's the unfair thing. It 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.119 was really good, but it wasn't good enough from a 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.600 play calling or an offensive standpoint, whatever you want to say. 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.400 All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.760 we still do need to talk about the offense we take. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.120 We will talk about Dak's today, we'll talk about Zeke. 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.479 We need to talk a little bit about Terrence Williams 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.959 and what's going on with him and maybe how his 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.919 play yesterday affected this outcome. 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Right now, we're dissecting this 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.480 game and uh and everything that went wrong for the 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:48.320 Cowboys yesterday too. Again, what TiO going to the Giants? 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.719 I don't know. They got some issues. We're gonna talk 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.760 about that tomorrow. But but the Cowboys have issues of 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.359 their owns. Let's talk about the offense though, And I 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.720 do think Dave, going back to what we were talking 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.600 about in that first segment, I think Umber kind of 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.800 started it off. I do think there were some positive things. 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.440 And you mentioned Dak Prescott. He was twenty five or 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.320 thirty six yesterday, sixty nine percent completion percentage, which is 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.360 much closer to what we saw him do last year. 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.879 Two hundred and fifty one yards, three touchdowns, one pick, 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.000 But that one pick I don't think was his fault. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.600 He could put the ball where he needed to put it. 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.560 One hundred and five quarterback rating all in all, I 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.560 think it was a really good day for him, and 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:29.040 but for that last drive by Aaron Rodgers, today Dak 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.240 Prescott would be the talk of the town. Everybody would 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.159 be saying how great of a game he played, But 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560 because it wasn't enough for a win, the talk of 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.119 the town is Aaron Rodgers. He played like an absolute 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.119 beast man. Jerry Jones actually said after the game he 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.240 thought it might have been his best game of his career. 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.479 And there's certainly a few that you could point to 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.680 and argue, but like, it's certainly up there. You were 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.439 being nice. That was not his fault at all. That 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.760 was Yeah, that was a bad play by Terrence Williams. 0:24:55.880 --> 0:25:01.040 That is not on Dak Prescott. He evaded pressure. He did. 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.359 He did some more magician stuff. Whether it was rod Smith, 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.400 whether it was Bryce Butler. He got, as Amber said, 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.920 he got Beasley and Witten involved after a couple of 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.240 weeks where they were struggling to be part of the offense. 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.480 He found he freaking. He found Keith Smith on a 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.760 third and one just he was lights out, And uh, 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.119 you know it's a testament to it's on the NFL's unfair. 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.440 You can play that great and not get the win. Yeah, 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.880 I mean, if the defense could make one play out 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.960 there and get off the field and win the game, 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.240 he's your best quarterback of the day. I mean, that's 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.080 what I was thinking with one thirteen to go. But 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.040 then I was like, well, you know, they could all 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:38.960 change here if he go drives down and scores. But 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.199 I mean he was. I mean not not that Rogers 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.520 was playing poorly before that, just he would have outplayed him. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.960 But it's actually it's and Green Bay ran the ball 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.920 way better than I ever would have thought that would 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.639 That was atrocious, But rookie's pretty good. Well yeah, they 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.960 made him look good. Baron Jones um Rogers through for 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.400 what like two twenty or something like that, Like it's 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.840 he was not a typical Rogers day, but as soon 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.520 as he needed to he twenty one. Yeah, that means 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.159 he was sitting at like what one sixty one he 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.280 won seventy five he did not. It was not a 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.240 big throwing day for him, but every time he needed 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.439 it, it it was just like and three touchdowns. So I 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.680 mean when it when it counted, he making the throws 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.480 that need to be made, you know, yep, But I 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:26.120 I mean, yeah, the running game. The running game took 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.600 some time to get going, but I mean, and you know, 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.440 I think the second the first and second quarter against 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.119 the Rams was kind of like, well, this is what 0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:37.280 the Dallas offense is supposed to be that, even though 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.639 it ended forty seconds too soon, that fourth quarter drive 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.720 was what you want the Cowboys to be. Shorten the game, methodical, 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.480 not really looking for big plays. You're just finding the 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.880 open man, moving the chains, gashing him with the run. 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.680 It's it's impressive to watch when it's clicking. Yep. Let's 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.040 talk about and one other thing I will point out 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.720 that I liked about his game, and really the game 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.639 he's had the last couple of weeks. He's starting to 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.040 find good opportunities to run. Yesterday had four rushes for 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:08.040 thirty seven yards and the touchdown there for the go ahead. 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.080 And it's I think when he is when he's using 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.160 his legs, and we've talked about this the last several weeks, 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.520 when he's using his legs, and that doesn't mean running regularly, 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.320 it means finding those moments in the game when the 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.439 team needs it and when defenses have basically left the 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.640 field wide open for him to be able to make 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.600 a play. Using his legs in those moments makes a 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.360 big difference for this team. We saw the same thing 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.800 on the reverse side yesterday for Rogers. Rogers only ran 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.720 four times for thirty two yards, but they were thirty 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.480 two major yards for them. And that's where I think 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.960 quarterbacks can add something to their team, is just knowing 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.840 that right moment to use their legs and letting that 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.760 help their team move the ball. Not to mention, I 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.879 think the play action and the boot, you know, that 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.560 worked about as well as it has all year for him. 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.879 Yesterday he found witting on a couple of those where 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.760 you know, the action before the play gets the tight 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.040 end or the receiver moving in space before the play 0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.560 even really gets going, and just looked like he had 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.560 more time on those throws than he has for most 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.879 of the season. Let's talk about Ezekiel Elliott yesterday on 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.080 the first here was the interesting part. In the first 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.040 three quarters of the game, he had sixteen carries for 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.200 thirty one yards, had an average of one point nine 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.159 yards per Carrie Nick, I remember I told you, like 0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:17.879 right when we were in the fourth quarter, I told you, 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.480 did you realize these stats? And we both were amazed 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.760 because it didn't seem like his average was that low. 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.919 I know he hadn't broken the big one, but it 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.840 didn't seem like his average was that low. And then 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:28.560 I think it was a play or two after that, 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.720 here's the twenty five yard and that's when they got 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.919 the running game going. In the fourth quarter, he had 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.679 thirteen carries for eighty five yards. That's one quarter of 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.560 work eighty five yards six point five average, which you 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.080 think is more likely to be what we're seeing in 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.800 the future. Do you accept the fact that in the 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.080 fourth quarter they finally found it and now you expect 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.800 that to continue, or do you think that what you 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.000 saw the first three quarters indicates the Cowboys are still 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.800 having some significant issues when it comes to being able 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.880 to sustain the running game. Well, I think it's a 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.640 little bit of both. First of all, you've got to 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.320 stay in the game and long enough so you could 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.080 run the ball in the fourth quarter. And so typically 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.640 if you've got thirty nine yards going into the fourth quarter, 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.720 you're not going to be in a position where you 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.880 can keep running it. But that's just kind of the 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.080 way the game unfolded. And I think it was just 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.520 a case of them leaning on him, leaning on him. 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.480 I don't think they figured it out as much as 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.120 it is they they they just kind of kept kept 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.680 it going, kept the grind, and he was able to 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.200 really turn out some some tough yards. I mean, it 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.320 was some really tough running, um you know, and it's 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.760 unfortunate that they lost it, but it had they won 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.400 the game. You know, first of all, Skycam would get 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.000 a game ball and and Corey Miller running the board 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.800 up there it gets you know, and the fact that 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.680 he was able to throw it out there, I mean 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.600 that that was a really great play. And also it's 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.120 it's one thing to do it on the goal line 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.480 because once you put it in a touchdown, but to 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.600 do it on fourth and in inches like that, you 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.000 could get the first down and it gets knocked down, 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.000 right and it gets down, Yeah, it gets knocked out. 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.600 So you got to have the armstring to do that, 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.000 and the just the vision and and awareness of and 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:06.800 I thought it was a great play that he did that. 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.840 But and he even said after the game, he's like 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.520 I usually do they say, as a matter of fact, 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:11.800 I think that may have been the only time in 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.560 my career that I've ever done something like that. But 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.160 he said, I had to get the first down and 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.120 that was my way to get the first down. Awareness 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.120 on his part. Another twenty one running back did that 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.440 and he got cut for it. Yeah, and other things 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:25.600 that was let's say, I don't know if it was 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.080 it was just that it was. I was just gotten 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.959 to start and talking to If it would have been Randall, 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.160 I might have gone. I might have gone the rest 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.920 of my life without ever thinking about that again. But yeah, 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.960 still think you do well, not not just not Joseph Randall, 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.800 but Joseph Randall's like pension for sticking the ball out 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.280 like that. It wasn't what you remember out of him. 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.240 Not really, No, I remember a lot of other stuff. Uh, 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.960 it's three time Tuesday, I mean is that Yeah, we 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.920 can talk about old Joe. Okay, I think everyone could 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.200 have a story about his departments of gee. Um yeah, 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.000 I agree with Nick. I mean, I'm starting to think 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.240 they are what they are. Which it's it's again for 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.960 the second week in a row. I'm flabbergasted that I'm 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.920 not impressed by the running game because they ran for 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:14.000 one hundred and sixty yards, but you know they have 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.680 it in them to do it. And they can do 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.040 it consistently at times, but I just I don't know 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.040 that they can do it at will the way they 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.760 did last year. I mean, I think somebody put it 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.120 out toward the beginning of the game last night that 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.600 last last week or last year they were averaging five 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.000 point five yards per carry on first down or something 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.680 like that, and this year it's more like two and 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.440 a half three. And yeah, like Nick said, they were 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:38.960 still in the game, so they were in a position 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.880 to run the ball in the fourth quarter. And that's great. 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.600 But typically if your offense is built around the run 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.560 and you can't run the ball successfully for the first 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.400 three quarters, that's going to spell trouble for you in 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.760 a lot of games. So it's it's definitely it's not 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.800 bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it still 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.080 has to be a concern, I think. So transitioning to 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.200 the next topic you want to talk about, Actually, I'm 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.040 just seeing the play on TV here. They showed the 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:07.480 interception by Dak and the ball basically hitting Terrence Williams 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.440 hands and bouncing off and then it's intercepted for a touchdown. 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.840 What would you like to say about that? Well, I'll 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.000 make the I'll make that point. The last one I was. 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.120 I was thinking just now that how weird football can 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.080 be sometimes. I mean, in a game like this when 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.560 when you think about, you know, one of their best, 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.120 you know, offensive lineman is Travis Frederick, and two weeks 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.880 in a row he's had a holding penalty done of 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.720 this last one didn't really affect the outcome. They were 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.720 still bit able to go. But still you're not expecting 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.360 him to do those things. He's one of your best 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.320 line minutes. From a technique standpoint, he gets none of 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.280 the primty Jordan Lewis. He's your best cornerback on the 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.120 field right now. In my opinion, I don't care about 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.360 the veteran. He is the best cornerback playing right now. 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.800 He gives up the game winner. It seems a little 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.840 bit unfair of that. It's also unfair the seventeen plays 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.200 for eighty four yards is not enough. It's not long enough, 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.080 you know, and you didn't take up enough time. It's 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.800 also weird that the guy that's getting a body catcher 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.880 drops a pass another one, and this one he's trying 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.520 to catch with his hands. I mean, he can't do 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.480 it right. So we can talk about Terrence. I mean, yeah, 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.160 that pass was a little bit behind him, but the 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.520 past sometimes that's how the ball is supposed to be 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.360 because if it's in front of him, then he gets 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.040 helmet to the face, so it's supposed to turn his 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.240 body that way, and he drops it and just plays 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.320 volleyball with it. It's two weeks in a row now, 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.240 and I don't know. I think he could have made 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:32.640 it more of a play on the deep ball to 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.520 on that on that free play. Yeah, he's just it's 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.840 just like just kind of waited for it to It's like, no, 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:41.680 I want it here, I want it here for a touchdown. Okay, 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.240 it doesn't always go like that stop turn, especially if 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.600 you slow down and you get run into. That's a 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:53.080 pass interference every time. But he just I don't know 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.520 what it is. He's just not playing with confidence right now. 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.960 I'm not sure what's going on. He didn't talk after 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:02.800 the game in this question on Twitter in regards to 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.040 Terrence Williams, would you guys have wanted the Cowboys to 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.120 not spend on money in free agency and spend it 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.400 on Burry Church instead of him? Remind me of his 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.120 contract because I don't remember it's a one year deal. 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.879 It's not a big money no, no no, no, no, you're 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:21.080 thinking of Bryce Butler. No Scott four seventeen point five 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.120 with nine point five guaranteed over the first two. I 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:29.800 think what what happened there is Terrence Williams, his agent. 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.839 They thought he was going to get a lot more 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.359 more than this, and the Cowboys kind of thought that too. 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.520 I think that they thought that just looking at the 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.200 market value. The others all spring telling fans that he 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.799 was probably gone. They thought it was in a range 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.960 of six to seven and four for seventeen. You know, 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.680 that's a little over four. So they looked at it 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.399 as a bargain. I said at the time, I would 0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.520 have taken Tarrell Prior's eight million one year eight million. 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.319 I mean you could if you signed him a little 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.920 bit more than one year, you wouldn't have been eight million. 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.239 You could get Arl Prior in the five to six range. 0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.640 I would must jeff forget au Shan Jeffery. You know. Oh, 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.279 he was on like a one year I remember it 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.280 was a short term deal. Wasn't doing a lot? Not fourteen? 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.600 Is it? I want to say one for ten, but 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.560 I don't remember. Off the top of my head, one 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.880 for nine to five days. Do you think that? Do 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.279 you think that was a bad decision, even though even 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.560 though the number ended up being much smaller than most 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.560 people thought it was going to be. For Terrence william 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:29.719 do you think it was a decision? I mean, I 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.520 you think it was a bad decision to resign him 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.359 for that much money? Yeah. What I and I've said 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.200 this thousand times, what I don't like about Terrence Williams 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.880 is the combination with him and Deaz. I mean, I 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.560 think Terrence can be a good receiver for other teams 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.239 other with with another number one a little bit more dynamic. 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.280 I think pairing him up with a guy like Antonio Brown, 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.319 Odell Beckham, that type of guy. I like him there. 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.200 But him and Daz, you know, I feel like you're 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.880 missing a lot of speed, and so I don't like 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.239 those two combination. For that reason, I probably wouldn't have 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.600 done it. But I will say, to the point of 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.320 the question, Barry Church signed a deal big enough in 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.520 Jacksonville that I don't know that not signing Terrence would 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.480 have would have given you the funds to keep him 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.200 for whatever that's worth. Yeah, I said all along that 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.680 I would have been perfectly fine, amicably parting ways with 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.080 him and addressing that position in the draft. They didn't. 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.319 And the thing. The other thing is you don't have 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.120 to keep him through the four years of his deal, 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.680 but the way it's structured probably means he's here through 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.040 twenty eighteen. So that's a that's a bed that they made, 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.640 at least in the short term, for better or for worse. Yeah, 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.399 And it's tough because you got Bryce who I mean, 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.640 he's kind of he's a similar kind of player. He 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.239 can be good at times, but Bryce can have his 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.800 moments when he's inconsistent. I think that's the issue with Terrence. 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.359 Terrence can be good at times, but he's not consistent enough. 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.239 He has too many moments when it's like he should 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.200 have made that catch and he doesn't. And and so 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.480 you've got two of those guys. One of him is 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.480 on a four year deal, one's on a one your deal. 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.960 And you probably ought to be, like you said, Dave, 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.919 you probably ought to be looking into draft to see 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.959 if you can get younger at that position. Maybe Noah 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.200 Brown steps up to become that guy for them. Well, 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.360 let's not you know, forget they gotta They got decisions 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.920 to make at the at the big spot too. With Dez. 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.800 I mean DZ is supposed to get about twelve and 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.160 a half million next year, so I mean that will 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.600 be talked about at the end of this season, if 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.520 not before that, about what they do at receiver. I'm 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.160 not saying they're gonna. I mean, you can try to 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.640 restructure if you want to, but that's only making in 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.359 situation worse. So I mean they'll they'll have a lot 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.040 of decisions to make it receiver. And like Dave said, 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.000 I don't know if Terrence Williams really will be one 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.279 of them this year. I will say that, you know, 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.239 I think people on Twitter argue for for Bryce to 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.520 cut into Terrence's reps, you know, I mean, maybe give 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.239 him a bump. I'd still be surprised to see if 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:56.319 that happens. You know. Garrett's more of the positive reinforcement 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.600 type of guy. He'll tell you that Terrence does a 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.239 lot of stuff off the ball, like block and all 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.640 those good types of things. They're big fan block. I 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.840 just remember the long run by Zeke. That's that's definitely 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.600 it's definitely not lip service like he does. Bring those 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:17.160 elements to the game. But I mean he's he's good 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.000 for a bone headed mistake like that about once per game, 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.200 or well maybe once every other game. I mean it 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.640 happens with some regularity to the point where you know, 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.520 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna try as hard as 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.720 I might have at one point to defend him to fans, 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.600 because the you know, your resume is laid out for 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.799 you right there. I was, you know, I was thinking 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.440 about that last night, like even going back to like 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.120 his rookie year. I remember in San Diego, I think 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.080 he tried to stretch to turn a play into a 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:47.640 touchdown and it fumbled. It. Uh, the resume is lengthy 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.040 at this point, but I would still be surprised, knowing 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.560 this coaching staff, to see them do anything drastic. I think. 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.480 I mean, you're second, third receiver. You know they're both 0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.520 out there, you need them both. I mean I don't 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.760 I think Rice does kind of cut into terrences just reps. 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.680 I mean you see him a lot in two receiver 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.560 routes with Dez and that he's the option out there. 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.560 So I think I think it's healthy, I mean a 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.680 healthy rotation there. I don't know the Switzer was providing 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.960 anything for you right at a They did receiver, They 0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.640 did do a couple of they did a couple of 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.000 ten personnel looks with Beasley and Switzer on the field 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.200 at the same time. Yesterday. Nothing really came out of it, 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.760 but kind of got me and a couple of times 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.960 and they had to tight end off the field. Yeah, 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.360 oh yeah, yeah, And that was kind of surprising me. 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:35.960 They didn't have a running back or tight end on 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.920 the field. Was all receivers. And I hadn't seen them 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.719 do that before because primarily because I didn't think that 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.560 they would take eighty two off the field. But they 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.960 bet it was time with that. I bet it was like, yeah, 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.920 I'm a little tired, I need to come off the field. 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.040 I don't think that's the case. All right, let's take 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.560 our final break when we come back. We still do 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.600 have a couple of small things we need to hit 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.960 from that game, one of them being Nolan Carroll and 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.520 the fact that he was inactive yesterday and Cowboys are 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.160 looking at their cornerback situation. And I'll have the question 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:02.880 for you, guys, do you think that was a wise 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.600 decision or does this just speak to the fact that 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.719 they made a bad decision during the offseason. We'll do 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.480 that when come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.400 com Radio. 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All right, let's get back in. Cowboys 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.640 lose yesterday Lucid the Green Bay Packers thirty five thirty one. 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.839 We've talked about a lot of different topics on this game. 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.200 One other thing I did want to talk about. Nolan 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.399 Carroll yesterday was inactive for the game. He has been 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.000 out ever since he had the concussion, but there was 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.280 I think most of us agreed that he was healthy 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.520 enough to play yesterday. Now, again, this is all with 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.600 the caveat. We don't know that because there could be 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.920 the possibility that the team still has not gotten a 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.120 clearance for him. They won't. They haven't said that one 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:40.640 way or the other. I don't think you guys may 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.319 have heard something different. So I asked. I asked Garrett 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.879 what carroll situation was, and he said he practice all week. 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.800 And I specifically said, so he's out of the concussion 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.680 protocol and he said, well, he's practiced fully all week. 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.879 He just repeated him, So he didn't really say yes 0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.799 or No, did anyone ask was he cleared to play? Well? 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.879 I didn't get I didn't get down there in time 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.719 to talk to Garrett at all last night. Yeah, because 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.520 Jerry Jones talked for a half hour or so so 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.480 about what stuff? I don't think so. And like I 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.320 said last night, I'm reluctant. I'm reluctant to classify somebody 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.640 as healthy when a head injury is involved. But he 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.719 practiced full three days in a row, so it certainly 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.200 looks like he was a healthy scratch. I mean that's 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.680 the appearance. And until we hear more as far as 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.600 whether he has actually been clear to play or not, 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.880 we can't say that for sure. Yeah, and I guess that. 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.040 But that leads back to the question, assuming that he 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.239 was healthy enough to play and he was inactive, does 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.239 this signal something bigger about what the Cowboys think of him, 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.480 about what the Cowboys think of their rookies? I mean 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.919 at this point with Cheeto Bay, I mean, he gets 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.240 another hamstring injury in that game, So it doesn't seem 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.719 like they certainly can can can afford to not have 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.320 Carol because they don't know what they're gonna get from Cheetah, 0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.560 from week to week. If Cheeto had played four quarters 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:03.120 and with six tackles and was completely healthy, then I'd 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.640 be way more willing to entertain this conversation. I see 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.160 where you're trying to take it, But what are you 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.360 gonna do with Nolan Carroll if one of your rookies 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.359 that you're leaning on can't stay on the field. Be clear, 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.920 it's Cheetah. That's the one way, yes, because the other 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.680 one's on the field all the time, and he's playing 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.480 quite well balling out. I don't even like Nicks. I 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.279 don't even care that he gave up the game losing 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:24.719 a matter of fact, he broke up the play just 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.440 before that. They went right back to it, and I'm 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.000 sure Rodgers like this rookie. I'm gonna I'm gonna use 0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.880 this rookie a little bit. If you're if you're not 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.480 impressed by what Jordan Lewis has done to the point, 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.080 I think you're dumb. He's playing really good football, guid Nick, 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:41.080 Can I get the just the first four letters of Carroll? Like? 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.799 Can I just have that hat? How do you come up? 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.279 I want it? I don't want the last three. That's 0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.960 who I want it. I don't want Brendan Carr. Yeah, 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.399 I don't iron horse, that's who I mean, we we all, 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.560 I think all of us agreed at the time that 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:57.680 if you were going to keep one guy from this 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.839 secondary coming into this year, that you keep I mean 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.440 I I I'm actually gonna have to change my tune 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.040 on that, because, if I remember correctly, I was kind 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.480 of like I think I was just more with the 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.600 relax on the fans going nuts on losing some of 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:17.080 these guys, especially Brandon Carr, which is ironic because everyone 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.319 hated this guy till he leaves, you know, and so 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.200 I kind of thought, well, let's you know, let's wait 0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:26.040 and see, you know, how it goes. But um, it's 0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.000 not gone well. And Carl cars getting interceptions and what 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.719 he got two interceptions too, Yeah, unless he got one 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.879 yesterday and he still plays games. I mean that's kind 0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:41.560 of what he does. So, I mean, when you think 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.640 about what you've done by signing Nolan Carroll, since since 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:49.359 you signed him, he has had a d WI. He 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.480 has played pretty bad. At training camp. He played okay 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.680 against the Giants receiver core that didn't have Odell Beckham, 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.680 then he played pretty bad against Denver before he got 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.680 knocked out of the game, this two or three game 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.480 then comes back and they feel like Ben a been 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:10.680 wickery and Cheeto and his hamstring and issues are still 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.920 better than to have him on the field. So what 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.440 we're doing here hadn't been a good start as a cowboy, hasn't. 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:23.160 Not no, not ideal, not ideal. But there's no recourse, 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.480 as you were saying, like, right now you look at 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.800 this and you're like, we we can't trust that Cheeto 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.400 is going to be healthy. This hamstring has been consistently 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:35.200 a consistent problem for him. And I'm gonna sound like 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.440 Brian brought us for a second, and I apologize, but 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.400 I think apologize the front office wanted these rookies to 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.560 push him out of a job at training camp, and 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.759 injuries kept that from happening. And like I said, I mean, 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.680 we could sit here and have this big hypothetical conversation 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.000 about whether no One Carroll's worth a roster spot if 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.000 everybody was healthy and you could trust that you had 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.399 enough cornerbacks to get through a game, But right now 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.600 you don't. And to go back to Nick's next point 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:01.920 from a couple of weeks ago, the more of this 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:05.000 keeps happening with Cheeto, the more I'm just like, you 0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.960 just give this guy some time, stop trying to stop 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.960 trying to nurse it back, you know, and get him 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.600 out there as quickly as possible, and just give him 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.360 the time he needs to recover, because he's already behind 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.040 the eight ball as it is. He missed the second 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:20.200 half of training camp. He's played in, He's played in 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.560 five quarters of football maybe, I mean the full Giants 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.279 game got hurt on the second and last play of 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.560 the game, was out by midway through the second quarter 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.120 of the Denver game. And I mean how many plays 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:37.279 was he in against against the Packers, like, I think 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.719 probably the second quarter. I mean, it hasn't been a 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.319 lengthy rookie season for him by any stretch, yea. And 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.400 I mean at this point they do it. It's clear. 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.439 I think they have three cornerbacks that are better than 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.360 Nolan Carroll. So if you if you can get Cheeto 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.319 back and you feel I've been Wickerrea is okay, He's 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.719 a guy. It gives you some depth. Then it does 0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.080 create a situation where it's like, how do you fit 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.359 Carroll in? I think those other three guys, those top 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.399 three guys I think are clearly better than Carol. Don't 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.040 sell my guy Xavier Woods short either. He looked He'll 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.160 drop down a nickel back to right exactly. So you've 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.479 got options, I guess, is the point. But that does 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.239 get to do they make a bad decision or did 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.000 they actually did it actually play out the way that 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.919 they wanted to play out. He was a bridge guy, 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.879 like you said, they wanted the rookies to take push 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.000 him out of a job, And it seems like, at 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.440 least in the case of Jordan Lewis and Xavier Woods, 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.880 they have you could I mean, you could certainly argue 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.160 that you made a bad decision in the sense that 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.520 a guy that you gave ten million dollars to is 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.239 is having the season that he's having. But again, I 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.400 mean you go back to that, and it's like, Okay, well, 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.319 they needed a body, they needed a guy with some 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.480 experience whatsoever, and it's certainly not somebody that they're married 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.239 to having as a key component of their defense. So 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.200 I just look at it as whatever. I you know, 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.560 I didn't overreact to the signing when it happened, and 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.960 I'm certainly not overreacting the fact that he's not having 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.279 a good year right now because the long term plan 0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.919 was for the rookies to be the guys anyway, So 0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:07.080 it certainly hasn't even lived up to whatever modest expectations 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.920 you could have had. But I don't think that's the 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.920 end of the world. All right, Let's get to some questions. 0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:12.319 You guys give us a call or hit us on 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.320 Twitter the numbers two one four, eight seven two twenty 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.520 one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.520 Let's start with a question from Twitter. With the bye 0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.279 week up on us, are we going to see a 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:26.080 change in the secondary workout some free agents? Do you 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.600 guys see them? I wouldn't be surprised. No, I definitely 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:34.239 would expect them to bring in some guys just for workouts. 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.360 But that just because they have the ability to do that, 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.400 that doesn't always mean that you sign them. You just 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.120 want to see who's out there out there. Sometimes it's 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.160 a favor to the agent too, because once you put 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.759 you know, once you put a workout out there, it 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:46.839 goes through the whole wire. So his name goes out. 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.200 They'll do that. But who Okay, no one carell We 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.239 just talked about him, But like, whose job are you 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.799 trying to take away in the secondary? Again, I don't 0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:57.680 think it's a matter of taking jobs away as much 0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.360 as it is seeing what's out there in the event 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.160 you sustain more injury Cheeto, and right now, the cornerback 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:03.799 position has been a position where you've had a lot 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.680 of injuries so far. I think you would be smart 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:08.320 to probably do some some reconnaissance on the offensive on 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.720 offensive linemen that are out there. You know your tackle 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.160 has a back problem. You know that you've had injuries 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.400 with Chaz Green and probably will continue to have injuries 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.960 with Chaz Green. So you know, just looking to see 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.560 what's out there in the event you get into the 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.680 second half of the year and you start getting some 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.120 injuries at some of these positions that make it to 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.120 where you need to bring in a guy. If you 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.640 had four more games at the end of the season 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.279 for Cheetoh, if he got to play four games at 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.000 the end, would you think that that would be enough 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.600 so we would go into his second year and go, Okay, 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.040 he's got some good experience under his belt. Because but 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.200 are you saying so that you'll have enough to cut 0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.839 n Carol? Is that I'm not talking about Carol. I'm 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.239 talking about trying to talking about IR. I'm trying to 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.880 fix this problem. I got this hamstring problem. But I 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.120 don't really want to want to just kill his rookie 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.440 season either. Um, so I think if you think a 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.239 month would be plenty, yeah, I mean him down. Yeah, 0:50:58.480 --> 0:50:59.880 there's two ways to look at it. You can say, 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.600 you know, let's put him on IR. That's seven games 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.400 because you get the buy a week. You put him 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.000 on IR, now eight weeks to return, you're gonna miss 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:12.680 seven games. But you're having a cornerback inactive every week anyway, 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.680 So why not just be him and then if he 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.200 can come back in a month or so I was 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:18.440 gonna I don't think you need to put him on 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:21.759 I make him inactive. Well you got I mean, they 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.040 have two weeks until they need they play another game, 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.040 and then you can probably carry him as an inactive 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.279 for two or three weeks after that. I'd still at 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:31.960 this point be surprised if he's on it. Yeah, I 0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.279 just wonder, you wonder what the what the situation is 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.600 with the hamstring. I don't even know the same hamstrings 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.040 before I didn't have it. You know that, like if 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:44.239 for anybody that doesn't know losses. It's it's hard to 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.520 get information after a loss because people are to find people, 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.319 people are piecing the hell out of there. I mean, 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.840 you know, the Garrett press conference lasts like five minutes. 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.319 Dak talked for three minutes. But but I will see 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:56.759 if the team was out of the locker room by 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.880 the time we got in there. And we talk about 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:01.840 the guys that usually you know they're out immediately after 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.600 a loss. Sometimes we do need to at least tip 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.480 the cap to those that are willing to stand up 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.839 and all the time. And Jason Witten right up there 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:12.200 with him, Jason Zeke stood there, and Zeke last week 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.200 and this I in there and and take the tough questions. 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.160 Zeke deserves a lot of credit because the talking point 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.600 around him is that he's young and immature. But two 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.440 weeks in a row, he stood right there and answered 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.279 all you know whatever. Last week he wasn't a great 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.640 conversation for him, like sure, yeah, And he stood there 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.040 and he answered the question yesterday after the game, after 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.480 giving up that game winner, Jordan Lewis, he stood there 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.080 and he took the questions after not a great game. 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.759 Jalen Smith stood there, took the question. So there are 0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.120 some guys in this locker room that are stand up 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.480 guys that are willing to stand up and do what 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.080 I think is their responsibility and talk to the fans 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.719 through the media even after they've lost or even after 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.919 things haven't gone their way and have a good day. Yep, 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.360 I agree. All right, Let's let's get another question. Should 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.200 Mary New he call up more blitz packages to help 0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:02.520 his personnel? Um, you know he did call some blitzes 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.759 and and they don't They just don't get home. I mean, 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:09.120 it's just I don't know in a situation like this, 0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.640 And I kind of said that to you on the 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:13.800 field at the end of the game, like I would 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.799 have blitzed him now a back shoulder fade. I don't 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.200 think a blitz really matters about that. Um, I would 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:23.200 have done a little bit more pressure at the end 0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.120 of the game there, because I would have just because 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.520 how much a sack is, how important it is, because 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.080 he knows he can't take a sack, he's gonna hold 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.200 onto the ball just a little bit less. So I 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.359 think if you if you blitzed and pressured him there. 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:41.480 But to the question in general, Um, I don't know. 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.960 I don't know if the pass rush was how much 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:45.640 of a problem was it. I mean they kind of 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.000 got after it a little bit like him, like irving 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.040 on the nose, but that was when they they usually 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.840 got after him when they had a four man front, 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.600 and at that in that last drive, they're primarily doing 0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.719 three man front, and so I I personally feel like 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.839 and that that goes back to just you know, if 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:01.839 you when you're in those kind of situations, saying we're 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:03.600 just gonna keep everything in front of us. I think 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.680 with a quarterback like that, you keep coming at and 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.360 playing your bass defense. I do, and I know a 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.600 lot of people may different. I just think I'd rather 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:12.880 go down saying I played my defense that I know 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:15.920 can get pressure and kind of cover, rather than saying 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:18.640 we're just gonna throw everything back and not really worry 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.560 about the pass rushes. I think more often than not, 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.240 I really like the three man front cloggin cover idea, 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.640 because I mean, he's gonna get rid of the ball quick, 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:32.680 he's smart. You're probably not going to pressure him into 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.080 a huge mistake or a sack. Because of again, who 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.920 you're playing. If you were playing Blake Bortles by all means, 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:42.520 but you're not so I think I'd rather just concede. 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.600 I'd rather just conceive that I'm not going to get 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.560 to him and have as many guys trying to rally 0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.080 to the ball carrier as possible. But I don't feel 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.160 super strongly about it. I mean, yeah, but I think 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.160 as you saw yesterday and as you'll probably see him 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.640 most games where he's where you're playing a quarterback like that, 0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.360 like if you give them, if they've got time, I 0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.239 don't care how how many guys you got there back 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.480 there trying to cloth things up. They're gonna find an 0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.359 open receiver because he's very good at buying extra time, 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:08.680 and its receivers are very old good when he's buying 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.080 extra time to be able to find a way to 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.239 get open. It's almost as if when you're playing a 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:16.239 quarterback of that caliber, you should do everything possible to 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.400 keep the ball out of him from having the ball last. 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.880 That's I think Brian's gut feeling. Like we write up 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:23.800 a review of how we thought the game win, and 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.439 Brian was like, you just knew whoever had the ball 0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:28.520 last was gonna win. I was like, well, you had 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.200 a chance to have the ball last, and you passed 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.120 on it. I think that's an overstatement. I don't think 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:34.480 they had a chance to have the ball last. They 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.440 had a chance to decrease the amount of time Rogers, 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.399 whatever you want to say that that's true. That is true. 0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.200 They did have them. But we didn't even talk about that. 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.719 Amazing him. You know, that was crazy, Like it's like 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.000 the place stopped before it really stopped, Like everybody just stopped, 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.520 and I'm like, because the ball still wive guys, let's 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.600 keep going. I don't know. I think I don't know 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.879 how the stat crew and they got thrown issues over there, 0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:02.040 but I think that it should be a turnover the Packers. 0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.520 And then I think Travis Frederick should have got a 0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:08.680 turnover for stripping the ball getting it back, um, and 0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:12.920 you know, and then after that that something could have 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.960 happened there when he got the ball back. But um, 0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.600 it's I mean, I mean, okay, it's a lot of 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:21.920 the thing, but it but when he when he got 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:23.439 the ball there and he kind of just started running 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:24.800 with it, I mean maybe if he could have pitched 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.359 it and then they could have they could have got 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.759 it over towards the Cowboys sideline. It was entertaining. I guess, 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:31.399 I don't know. We were down on the field. It's 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:35.080 a lot of give me the mic. I mean, it's 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.000 a lot of fun being down there in that environment, 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:41.960 in those types of situations, but it really hinders how 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.439 well you see what's going on, you know, because you're 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.279 on eye level with these guys. But it was it 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:49.799 was pretty wild. Yeah, I don't know if they would 0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.319 have played it the same way, But what if that 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.920 was Bryce streaking down the middle of the field instead 0:56:55.960 --> 0:57:00.440 of Beasley, you know, if if he could have Oh yeah, 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.319 but but I I thought, just looking at it, I 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.640 thought that the Beasley was gonna like, if he could 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.560 have caught the ball that he was, he would have scored. 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:08.680 But I think, no, I don't think he would. He wouldn't. 0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:10.160 But I do think then they have a shot. They 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:11.880 can take one shot at the end zone. Yeah, like 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.120 a legitimate shot. Well, I'm okay, who cares about that? 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.280 That was never gonna work. But I'm glad you mentioned 0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.800 that because this team had the ball at midfield with 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.880 timeouts and what like eighteen seconds on the clock when 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:27.640 Dak was sacked right before halftime and they just gave 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.680 up against again, knowing that Aaron Rodgers was going to 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.000 get the ball coming out of the third quarter. Maybe 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.040 you can throw a ball. You have a timeout, so 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.400 maybe you can throw a ball to the middle of 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:38.080 the field and kick along field goal or may just 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.760 Aaron Rodgers have scored how many touchdowns on just bs 0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.960 hail mary's at the end of halves? I agree with you. 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.080 Just try it. You like, in my mind, was it 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.640 twenty one six at that point or twenty one twelve. 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:53.920 It's twenty one twelve, I think to twelve at halftime. 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:58.320 So you're up nine and I'm just assuming Aaron Rodgers 0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:00.000 is going to get them points coming out of halftime. 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.080 He's just he's gonna do it. Yeah, They're gonna have 0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.560 thirty thousand fans in the stands, and it's so, why 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:07.640 isn't there more urgency to go try to get points 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.120 on the board? Talking about throw a hail Mary, whatever that, 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.880 But I throw along pass to get in positions for fuel. 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:15.120 I'm fine with that part. They would have quickly called 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:16.720 a time out. I think they could have gotten a 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:18.760 play to maybe get them into field goal range and 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:20.120 then get a shot. I can tell you why they 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.440 don't throw a hall Mary. It's because of Troy Aikman. 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:27.200 Troy Aitman's who are Troytman's two prominent backups in the nineties, 0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.240 Jason Garrett, Who else? Wade Wilson? Where are they on 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.520 the staff? Yeah, they hate it. Aikman hated the hail 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.720 Mary because he says it killed your stats because you 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.160 got you you would get an interception for no reason 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.440 out there, So he didn't like throwing it. He rarely 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.760 threw it. They don't like throwing it. Wade Wilson has 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.800 said before that they don't. They don't necessarily like to 0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:49.880 throw that play. I don't care about the stats, but 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.760 they'll they'll do that so stupid. It is stupid. Well, 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:54.640 and they're not gonna say that, but I don't. But 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:56.200 I don't think the hell Mary. I don't even care 0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.920 about the hell Mary with I'm agree it's not the 0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:00.880 hell Mary. You had a shot with some time out 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:03.360 do something over the middle. Just see what happened. He 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.360 can kick a fifty. I mean you would try it 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.600 for sixty yeah, right going into the half, you would 0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:13.200 definitely try. Aaron Rodgers is it's it's October, so Aaron 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.760 Rodgers is Michael Myers like he's just gonna get up 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.600 and just keep coming with the big kitchen knife, and 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.880 you have you just a kitchen knife. Yeah, you just gotta. 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.240 You have to just almost play. Is it bad that 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.880 I'm thinking of the defensive tackle from the two thousands back? 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.680 I actually thought of both. I thought of both. There 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.800 you go, Yeah, Ken knows Kin sendo movies. Wow, you 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.720 almost have to play. You have to be afraid of 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.080 putting your defense on the field when you play this guy. 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:43.680 I don't care who you have either, and they didn't 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:46.480 in multiple occasions. Ken, It's been fifty nine minutes we've 0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:48.920 talked about Aaron Rodgers getting the ball to go win 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.240 the game. You know, it's some scary thought, and you're 0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.760 just now playing that like that would have been perfect, 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:57.800 which is coming up right? Yeah, That's why I happen. 0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:00.760 Yeah this Friday. Yeah, all right, guys, are ach you Johnius. 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:02.920 We're back tomorrow nine thirty am, and we're gonna give 1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:05.320 a little bit of bigger picture view of where the 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.600 Cowboys sit in the NFC East and in the NFC. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:10.720 I'm about that tomorrow for Nick even Dave Hellman amber Garcia. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:12.840 I'm Derek Els and this has been The Break live 1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:17.320 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:20.960 production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:21.680 Football Club.