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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October eight, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number fifty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star,

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Speaker 1: and we got a lot, Man, we got so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. The Cowboys lose. They are now

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Speaker 1: two and three on the season. They lose a game

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Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Packers that just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It just seems to be more of the same from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of how they match up against these Packers.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it all last week, Dave, you and Nick.

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Speaker 1: I think I can't remember who exactly started saying that

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Speaker 1: God was coming to town, but I will I won't

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Speaker 1: about as close to that as you would get on

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Speaker 1: a football field. Um, Aaron Rodgers just I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just amazing what he does with the football, especially in

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Speaker 1: crunch time. Yeah, I think that was that was Nick

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Speaker 1: feel like. But uh no, Nick, facetious, I know, right,

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Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, I mean that's that's the night, you know.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say I told you so, but that's

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Speaker 1: more or less how I saw that thing playing out. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean what else do you want? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's I'm unbelievable the things he can younger version. Yikes,

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Speaker 1: that's terrifying. That's terrifying. No, you said it, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean you said that. I mean they probably should be

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Speaker 1: as they probably should have been because they, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's just as simple as that. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: it's really we shouldn't over oversimplify it. They had the game,

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Speaker 1: they went out there, they were to go nine minutes

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Speaker 1: mean one thirteen to go. What else can you ask for?

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Speaker 1: Thirty or forty more seconds? That's running, I mean running

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to those details, and I think

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Speaker 1: I was telling Nick after towards the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: I think Derek gave me the floor to talk right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It mattered. It definitely mattered at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: Like he said after, can you guys hear me? I

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Speaker 1: can't hear myself anyware. Okay, sorry, guys. Like Dak said

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Speaker 1: All right, we're talking about the cowboys lost yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: lose thirty five to thirty one to the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Panel got it there. Now they are now two and three,

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Speaker 1: sitting in a third place in the division, the only

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Speaker 1: lost record of the OD five New York Giants. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all that tomorrow. Right now, we're dissecting this

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Speaker 1: Cowboys yesterday too. Again, what TiO going to the Giants?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They got some issues. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about that tomorrow. But but the Cowboys have issues of

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Speaker 1: their owns. Let's talk about the offense though, And I

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Speaker 1: do think Dave, going back to what we were talking

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Dak Prescott. He was twenty five or

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Speaker 1: thirty six yesterday, sixty nine percent completion percentage, which is

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Speaker 1: much closer to what we saw him do last year.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty one yards, three touchdowns, one pick,

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Speaker 1: But that one pick I don't think was his fault.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and five quarterback rating all in all, I

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Speaker 1: think it was a really good day for him, and

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Speaker 1: but for that last drive by Aaron Rodgers, today Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott would be the talk of the town. Everybody would

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Speaker 1: be saying how great of a game he played, But

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't enough for a win, the talk of

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Speaker 1: the town is Aaron Rodgers. He played like an absolute

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Speaker 1: beast man. Jerry Jones actually said after the game he

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Speaker 1: thought it might have been his best game of his career.

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Speaker 1: And there's certainly a few that you could point to

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Speaker 1: and argue, but like, it's certainly up there. You were

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Speaker 1: being nice. That was not his fault at all. That

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Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was a bad play by Terrence Williams.

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Speaker 1: That is not on Dak Prescott. He evaded pressure. He did.

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Speaker 1: He did some more magician stuff. Whether it was rod Smith,

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Speaker 1: whether it was Bryce Butler. He got, as Amber said,

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Speaker 1: he got Beasley and Witten involved after a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks where they were struggling to be part of the offense.

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Speaker 1: He found he freaking. He found Keith Smith on a

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Speaker 1: third and one just he was lights out, And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know it's a testament to it's on the NFL's unfair.

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Speaker 1: You can play that great and not get the win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the defense could make one play out

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Speaker 1: there and get off the field and win the game,

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Speaker 1: he's your best quarterback of the day. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking with one thirteen to go. But

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Speaker 1: then I was like, well, you know, they could all

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Speaker 1: change here if he go drives down and scores. But

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Speaker 1: I mean he was. I mean not not that Rogers

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Speaker 1: But it's actually it's and Green Bay ran the ball

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Speaker 1: way better than I ever would have thought that would

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Speaker 1: That was atrocious, But rookie's pretty good. Well yeah, they

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Speaker 1: made him look good. Baron Jones um Rogers through for

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Speaker 1: what like two twenty or something like that, Like it's

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Speaker 1: he was not a typical Rogers day, but as soon

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Speaker 1: as he needed to he twenty one. Yeah, that means

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Speaker 1: he was sitting at like what one sixty one he

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Speaker 1: won seventy five he did not. It was not a

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Speaker 1: big throwing day for him, but every time he needed

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Speaker 1: it, it it was just like and three touchdowns. So I

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Speaker 1: mean when it when it counted, he making the throws

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Speaker 1: that need to be made, you know, yep, But I

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the running game. The running game took

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Speaker 1: some time to get going, but I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the second the first and second quarter against

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Speaker 1: the Rams was kind of like, well, this is what

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Speaker 1: the Dallas offense is supposed to be that, even though

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Speaker 1: it ended forty seconds too soon, that fourth quarter drive

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Speaker 1: was what you want the Cowboys to be. Shorten the game, methodical,

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Speaker 1: not really looking for big plays. You're just finding the

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Speaker 1: open man, moving the chains, gashing him with the run.

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Speaker 1: It's it's impressive to watch when it's clicking. Yep. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about and one other thing I will point out

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Speaker 1: that I liked about his game, and really the game

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Speaker 1: he's had the last couple of weeks. He's starting to

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Speaker 1: find good opportunities to run. Yesterday had four rushes for

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Speaker 1: thirty seven yards and the touchdown there for the go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And it's I think when he is when he's using

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Speaker 1: his legs, and we've talked about this the last several weeks,

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Speaker 1: when he's using his legs, and that doesn't mean running regularly,

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Speaker 1: it means finding those moments in the game when the

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Speaker 1: team needs it and when defenses have basically left the

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Speaker 1: field wide open for him to be able to make

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Speaker 1: a play. Using his legs in those moments makes a

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Speaker 1: big difference for this team. We saw the same thing

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Speaker 1: on the reverse side yesterday for Rogers. Rogers only ran

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Speaker 1: four times for thirty two yards, but they were thirty

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Speaker 1: two major yards for them. And that's where I think

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks can add something to their team, is just knowing

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Speaker 1: that right moment to use their legs and letting that

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Speaker 1: help their team move the ball. Not to mention, I

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Speaker 1: think the play action and the boot, you know, that

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Speaker 1: worked about as well as it has all year for him.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday he found witting on a couple of those where

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Speaker 1: you know, the action before the play gets the tight

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Speaker 1: end or the receiver moving in space before the play

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Speaker 1: even really gets going, and just looked like he had

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Speaker 1: more time on those throws than he has for most

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Speaker 1: of the season. Let's talk about Ezekiel Elliott yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the first here was the interesting part. In the first

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Speaker 1: three quarters of the game, he had sixteen carries for

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Speaker 1: thirty one yards, had an average of one point nine

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Speaker 1: yards per Carrie Nick, I remember I told you, like

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Speaker 1: right when we were in the fourth quarter, I told you,

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Speaker 1: did you realize these stats? And we both were amazed

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Speaker 1: because it didn't seem like his average was that low.

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Speaker 1: I know he hadn't broken the big one, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't seem like his average was that low. And then

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Speaker 1: I think it was a play or two after that,

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Speaker 1: here's the twenty five yard and that's when they got

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Speaker 1: the running game going. In the fourth quarter, he had

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Speaker 1: thirteen carries for eighty five yards. That's one quarter of

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Speaker 1: work eighty five yards six point five average, which you

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Speaker 1: think is more likely to be what we're seeing in

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Speaker 1: the future. Do you accept the fact that in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter they finally found it and now you expect

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Speaker 1: that to continue, or do you think that what you

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Speaker 1: saw the first three quarters indicates the Cowboys are still

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Speaker 1: having some significant issues when it comes to being able

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Speaker 1: to sustain the running game. Well, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of both. First of all, you've got to

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Speaker 1: stay in the game and long enough so you could

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Speaker 1: run the ball in the fourth quarter. And so typically

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Speaker 1: if you've got thirty nine yards going into the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be in a position where you

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Speaker 1: can keep running it. But that's just kind of the

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Speaker 1: way the game unfolded. And I think it was just

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Speaker 1: a case of them leaning on him, leaning on him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they figured it out as much as

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Speaker 1: it is they they they just kind of kept kept

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Speaker 1: it going, kept the grind, and he was able to

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Speaker 1: really turn out some some tough yards. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was some really tough running, um you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: unfortunate that they lost it, but it had they won

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Speaker 1: the game. You know, first of all, Skycam would get

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Speaker 1: a game ball and and Corey Miller running the board

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Speaker 1: he was able to throw it out there, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to do it on the goal line

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Speaker 1: do it on fourth and in inches like that, you

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Speaker 1: right and it gets down, Yeah, it gets knocked out.

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Speaker 1: So you got to have the armstring to do that,

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Speaker 1: and the just the vision and and awareness of and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a great play that he did that.

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Speaker 1: But and he even said after the game, he's like

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Speaker 1: I think that may have been the only time in

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Speaker 1: my career that I've ever done something like that. But

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Speaker 1: he said, I had to get the first down and

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Speaker 1: that was my way to get the first down. Awareness

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Speaker 1: on his part. Another twenty one running back did that

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Speaker 1: and he got cut for it. Yeah, and other things

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Speaker 1: that was let's say, I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: it was just that it was. I was just gotten

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Speaker 1: I might have gone. I might have gone the rest

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Speaker 1: of my life without ever thinking about that again. But yeah,

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00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: still think you do well, not not just not Joseph Randall,

642
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: but Joseph Randall's like pension for sticking the ball out

643
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: like that. It wasn't what you remember out of him.

644
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Not really, No, I remember a lot of other stuff. Uh,

645
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: it's three time Tuesday, I mean is that Yeah, we

646
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: can talk about old Joe. Okay, I think everyone could

647
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: have a story about his departments of gee. Um yeah,

648
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick. I mean, I'm starting to think

649
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: they are what they are. Which it's it's again for

650
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the second week in a row. I'm flabbergasted that I'm

651
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: not impressed by the running game because they ran for

652
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty yards, but you know they have

653
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: it in them to do it. And they can do

654
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: it consistently at times, but I just I don't know

655
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: that they can do it at will the way they

656
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: did last year. I mean, I think somebody put it

657
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: out toward the beginning of the game last night that

658
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: last last week or last year they were averaging five

659
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: point five yards per carry on first down or something

660
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: like that, and this year it's more like two and

661
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: a half three. And yeah, like Nick said, they were

662
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: still in the game, so they were in a position

663
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Speaker 1: to run the ball in the fourth quarter. And that's great.

664
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Speaker 1: But typically if your offense is built around the run

665
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: and you can't run the ball successfully for the first

666
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: three quarters, that's going to spell trouble for you in

667
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: a lot of games. So it's it's definitely it's not

668
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it still

669
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: has to be a concern, I think. So transitioning to

670
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: the next topic you want to talk about, Actually, I'm

671
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: just seeing the play on TV here. They showed the

672
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: interception by Dak and the ball basically hitting Terrence Williams

673
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: hands and bouncing off and then it's intercepted for a touchdown.

674
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: What would you like to say about that? Well, I'll

675
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: make the I'll make that point. The last one I was.

676
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking just now that how weird football can

677
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: be sometimes. I mean, in a game like this when

678
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: when you think about, you know, one of their best,

679
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, offensive lineman is Travis Frederick, and two weeks

680
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: in a row he's had a holding penalty done of

681
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: this last one didn't really affect the outcome. They were

682
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: still bit able to go. But still you're not expecting

683
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: him to do those things. He's one of your best

684
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: line minutes. From a technique standpoint, he gets none of

685
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: the primty Jordan Lewis. He's your best cornerback on the

686
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: field right now. In my opinion, I don't care about

687
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: the veteran. He is the best cornerback playing right now.

688
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: He gives up the game winner. It seems a little

689
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: bit unfair of that. It's also unfair the seventeen plays

690
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: for eighty four yards is not enough. It's not long enough,

691
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, and you didn't take up enough time. It's

692
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: also weird that the guy that's getting a body catcher

693
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: drops a pass another one, and this one he's trying

694
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: to catch with his hands. I mean, he can't do

695
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: it right. So we can talk about Terrence. I mean, yeah,

696
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: that pass was a little bit behind him, but the

697
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: past sometimes that's how the ball is supposed to be

698
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: because if it's in front of him, then he gets

699
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: helmet to the face, so it's supposed to turn his

700
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: body that way, and he drops it and just plays

701
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: volleyball with it. It's two weeks in a row now,

702
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I think he could have made

703
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: it more of a play on the deep ball to

704
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: on that on that free play. Yeah, he's just it's

705
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: just like just kind of waited for it to It's like, no,

706
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: I want it here, I want it here for a touchdown. Okay,

707
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't always go like that stop turn, especially if

708
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: you slow down and you get run into. That's a

709
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: pass interference every time. But he just I don't know

710
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: what it is. He's just not playing with confidence right now.

711
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on. He didn't talk after

712
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: the game in this question on Twitter in regards to

713
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams, would you guys have wanted the Cowboys to

714
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: not spend on money in free agency and spend it

715
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: on Burry Church instead of him? Remind me of his

716
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: contract because I don't remember it's a one year deal.

717
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: It's not a big money no, no no, no, no, you're

718
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: thinking of Bryce Butler. No Scott four seventeen point five

719
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: with nine point five guaranteed over the first two. I

720
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: think what what happened there is Terrence Williams, his agent.

721
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: They thought he was going to get a lot more

722
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: more than this, and the Cowboys kind of thought that too.

723
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I think that they thought that just looking at the

724
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: market value. The others all spring telling fans that he

725
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: was probably gone. They thought it was in a range

726
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: of six to seven and four for seventeen. You know,

727
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: that's a little over four. So they looked at it

728
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: as a bargain. I said at the time, I would

729
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: have taken Tarrell Prior's eight million one year eight million.

730
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean you could if you signed him a little

731
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: bit more than one year, you wouldn't have been eight million.

732
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: You could get Arl Prior in the five to six range.

733
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I would must jeff forget au Shan Jeffery. You know. Oh,

734
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: he was on like a one year I remember it

735
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: was a short term deal. Wasn't doing a lot? Not fourteen?

736
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Is it? I want to say one for ten, but

737
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Off the top of my head, one

738
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: for nine to five days. Do you think that? Do

739
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: you think that was a bad decision, even though even

740
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: though the number ended up being much smaller than most

741
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: people thought it was going to be. For Terrence william

742
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: do you think it was a decision? I mean, I

743
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: you think it was a bad decision to resign him

744
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: for that much money? Yeah. What I and I've said

745
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: this thousand times, what I don't like about Terrence Williams

746
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: is the combination with him and Deaz. I mean, I

747
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: think Terrence can be a good receiver for other teams

748
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: other with with another number one a little bit more dynamic.

749
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: I think pairing him up with a guy like Antonio Brown,

750
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, that type of guy. I like him there.

751
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: But him and Daz, you know, I feel like you're

752
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: missing a lot of speed, and so I don't like

753
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: those two combination. For that reason, I probably wouldn't have

754
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: done it. But I will say, to the point of

755
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: the question, Barry Church signed a deal big enough in

756
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Jacksonville that I don't know that not signing Terrence would

757
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: have would have given you the funds to keep him

758
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. Yeah, I said all along that

759
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I would have been perfectly fine, amicably parting ways with

760
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: him and addressing that position in the draft. They didn't.

761
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: And the thing. The other thing is you don't have

762
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: to keep him through the four years of his deal,

763
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: but the way it's structured probably means he's here through

764
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So that's a that's a bed that they made,

765
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: at least in the short term, for better or for worse. Yeah,

766
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: And it's tough because you got Bryce who I mean,

767
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of he's a similar kind of player. He

768
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: can be good at times, but Bryce can have his

769
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: moments when he's inconsistent. I think that's the issue with Terrence.

770
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: Terrence can be good at times, but he's not consistent enough.

771
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: He has too many moments when it's like he should

772
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: have made that catch and he doesn't. And and so

773
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: you've got two of those guys. One of him is

774
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: on a four year deal, one's on a one your deal.

775
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: And you probably ought to be, like you said, Dave,

776
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: you probably ought to be looking into draft to see

777
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: if you can get younger at that position. Maybe Noah

778
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Brown steps up to become that guy for them. Well,

779
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: let's not you know, forget they gotta They got decisions

780
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: to make at the at the big spot too. With Dez.

781
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean DZ is supposed to get about twelve and

782
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: a half million next year, so I mean that will

783
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: be talked about at the end of this season, if

784
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: not before that, about what they do at receiver. I'm

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna. I mean, you can try to

786
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: restructure if you want to, but that's only making in

787
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: situation worse. So I mean they'll they'll have a lot

788
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: of decisions to make it receiver. And like Dave said,

789
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if Terrence Williams really will be one

790
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: of them this year. I will say that, you know,

791
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: I think people on Twitter argue for for Bryce to

792
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: cut into Terrence's reps, you know, I mean, maybe give

793
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: him a bump. I'd still be surprised to see if

794
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: that happens. You know. Garrett's more of the positive reinforcement

795
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: type of guy. He'll tell you that Terrence does a

796
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: lot of stuff off the ball, like block and all

797
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: those good types of things. They're big fan block. I

798
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: just remember the long run by Zeke. That's that's definitely

799
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: it's definitely not lip service like he does. Bring those

800
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: elements to the game. But I mean he's he's good

801
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: for a bone headed mistake like that about once per game,

802
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: or well maybe once every other game. I mean it

803
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: happens with some regularity to the point where you know,

804
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna try as hard as

805
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: I might have at one point to defend him to fans,

806
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: because the you know, your resume is laid out for

807
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: you right there. I was, you know, I was thinking

808
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: about that last night, like even going back to like

809
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: his rookie year. I remember in San Diego, I think

810
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: he tried to stretch to turn a play into a

811
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: touchdown and it fumbled. It. Uh, the resume is lengthy

812
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: at this point, but I would still be surprised, knowing

813
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, to see them do anything drastic. I think.

814
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're second, third receiver. You know they're both

815
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: out there, you need them both. I mean I don't

816
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: I think Rice does kind of cut into terrences just reps.

817
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean you see him a lot in two receiver

818
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: routes with Dez and that he's the option out there.

819
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's healthy, I mean a

820
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: healthy rotation there. I don't know the Switzer was providing

821
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: anything for you right at a They did receiver, They

822
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: did do a couple of they did a couple of

823
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: ten personnel looks with Beasley and Switzer on the field

824
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yesterday. Nothing really came out of it,

825
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: but kind of got me and a couple of times

826
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: and they had to tight end off the field. Yeah,

827
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, And that was kind of surprising me.

828
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: They didn't have a running back or tight end on

829
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: the field. Was all receivers. And I hadn't seen them

830
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: do that before because primarily because I didn't think that

831
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: they would take eighty two off the field. But they

832
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: bet it was time with that. I bet it was like, yeah,

833
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired, I need to come off the field.

834
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. All right, let's take

835
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: our final break when we come back. We still do

836
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: have a couple of small things we need to hit

837
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: from that game, one of them being Nolan Carroll and

838
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the fact that he was inactive yesterday and Cowboys are

839
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: looking at their cornerback situation. And I'll have the question

840
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: for you, guys, do you think that was a wise

841
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: decision or does this just speak to the fact that

842
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,719
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Speaker 1: lose yesterday Lucid the Green Bay Packers thirty five thirty one.

886
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of different topics on this game.

887
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: One other thing I did want to talk about. Nolan

888
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: Carroll yesterday was inactive for the game. He has been

889
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: out ever since he had the concussion, but there was

890
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: I think most of us agreed that he was healthy

891
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: enough to play yesterday. Now, again, this is all with

892
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: the caveat. We don't know that because there could be

893
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: the possibility that the team still has not gotten a

894
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: clearance for him. They won't. They haven't said that one

895
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: way or the other. I don't think you guys may

896
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: have heard something different. So I asked. I asked Garrett

897
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: what carroll situation was, and he said he practice all week.

898
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: And I specifically said, so he's out of the concussion

899
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: protocol and he said, well, he's practiced fully all week.

900
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: He just repeated him, So he didn't really say yes

901
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: or No, did anyone ask was he cleared to play? Well?

902
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't get down there in time

903
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: to talk to Garrett at all last night. Yeah, because

904
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones talked for a half hour or so so

905
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: about what stuff? I don't think so. And like I

906
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: said last night, I'm reluctant. I'm reluctant to classify somebody

907
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: as healthy when a head injury is involved. But he

908
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: practiced full three days in a row, so it certainly

909
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: looks like he was a healthy scratch. I mean that's

910
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: the appearance. And until we hear more as far as

911
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: whether he has actually been clear to play or not,

912
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: we can't say that for sure. Yeah, and I guess that.

913
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: But that leads back to the question, assuming that he

914
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: was healthy enough to play and he was inactive, does

915
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: this signal something bigger about what the Cowboys think of him,

916
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: about what the Cowboys think of their rookies? I mean

917
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: at this point with Cheeto Bay, I mean, he gets

918
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: another hamstring injury in that game, So it doesn't seem

919
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: like they certainly can can can afford to not have

920
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: Carol because they don't know what they're gonna get from Cheetah,

921
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: from week to week. If Cheeto had played four quarters

922
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: and with six tackles and was completely healthy, then I'd

923
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: be way more willing to entertain this conversation. I see

924
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: where you're trying to take it, But what are you

925
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna do with Nolan Carroll if one of your rookies

926
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: that you're leaning on can't stay on the field. Be clear,

927
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: it's Cheetah. That's the one way, yes, because the other

928
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: one's on the field all the time, and he's playing

929
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: quite well balling out. I don't even like Nicks. I

930
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: don't even care that he gave up the game losing

931
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he broke up the play just

932
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: before that. They went right back to it, and I'm

933
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: sure Rodgers like this rookie. I'm gonna I'm gonna use

934
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: this rookie a little bit. If you're if you're not

935
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: impressed by what Jordan Lewis has done to the point,

936
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I think you're dumb. He's playing really good football, guid Nick,

937
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Can I get the just the first four letters of Carroll? Like?

938
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: Can I just have that hat? How do you come up?

939
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: I want it? I don't want the last three. That's

940
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: who I want it. I don't want Brendan Carr. Yeah,

941
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't iron horse, that's who I mean, we we all,

942
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: I think all of us agreed at the time that

943
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: if you were going to keep one guy from this

944
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: secondary coming into this year, that you keep I mean

945
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: I I I'm actually gonna have to change my tune

946
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: on that, because, if I remember correctly, I was kind

947
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: of like I think I was just more with the

948
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: relax on the fans going nuts on losing some of

949
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: these guys, especially Brandon Carr, which is ironic because everyone

950
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: hated this guy till he leaves, you know, and so

951
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: I kind of thought, well, let's you know, let's wait

952
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: and see, you know, how it goes. But um, it's

953
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: not gone well. And Carl cars getting interceptions and what

954
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: he got two interceptions too, Yeah, unless he got one

955
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: yesterday and he still plays games. I mean that's kind

956
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: of what he does. So, I mean, when you think

957
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: about what you've done by signing Nolan Carroll, since since

958
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: you signed him, he has had a d WI. He

959
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: has played pretty bad. At training camp. He played okay

960
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: against the Giants receiver core that didn't have Odell Beckham,

961
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: then he played pretty bad against Denver before he got

962
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: knocked out of the game, this two or three game

963
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: then comes back and they feel like Ben a been

964
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: wickery and Cheeto and his hamstring and issues are still

965
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: better than to have him on the field. So what

966
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: we're doing here hadn't been a good start as a cowboy, hasn't.

967
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Not no, not ideal, not ideal. But there's no recourse,

968
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: as you were saying, like, right now you look at

969
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: this and you're like, we we can't trust that Cheeto

970
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: is going to be healthy. This hamstring has been consistently

971
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: a consistent problem for him. And I'm gonna sound like

972
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: Brian brought us for a second, and I apologize, but

973
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I think apologize the front office wanted these rookies to

974
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: push him out of a job at training camp, and

975
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: injuries kept that from happening. And like I said, I mean,

976
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: we could sit here and have this big hypothetical conversation

977
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: about whether no One Carroll's worth a roster spot if

978
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: everybody was healthy and you could trust that you had

979
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: enough cornerbacks to get through a game, But right now

980
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: you don't. And to go back to Nick's next point

981
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks ago, the more of this

982
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: keeps happening with Cheeto, the more I'm just like, you

983
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: just give this guy some time, stop trying to stop

984
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: trying to nurse it back, you know, and get him

985
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: out there as quickly as possible, and just give him

986
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the time he needs to recover, because he's already behind

987
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: the eight ball as it is. He missed the second

988
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: half of training camp. He's played in, He's played in

989
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: five quarters of football maybe, I mean the full Giants

990
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: game got hurt on the second and last play of

991
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: the game, was out by midway through the second quarter

992
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: of the Denver game. And I mean how many plays

993
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: was he in against against the Packers, like, I think

994
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: probably the second quarter. I mean, it hasn't been a

995
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: lengthy rookie season for him by any stretch, yea. And

996
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean at this point they do it. It's clear.

997
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: I think they have three cornerbacks that are better than

998
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll. So if you if you can get Cheeto

999
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: back and you feel I've been Wickerrea is okay, He's

1000
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: a guy. It gives you some depth. Then it does

1001
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: create a situation where it's like, how do you fit

1002
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: Carroll in? I think those other three guys, those top

1003
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: three guys I think are clearly better than Carol. Don't

1004
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: sell my guy Xavier Woods short either. He looked He'll

1005
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: drop down a nickel back to right exactly. So you've

1006
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: got options, I guess, is the point. But that does

1007
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: get to do they make a bad decision or did

1008
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: they actually did it actually play out the way that

1009
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: they wanted to play out. He was a bridge guy,

1010
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: like you said, they wanted the rookies to take push

1011
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: him out of a job, And it seems like, at

1012
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: least in the case of Jordan Lewis and Xavier Woods,

1013
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: they have you could I mean, you could certainly argue

1014
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: that you made a bad decision in the sense that

1015
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: a guy that you gave ten million dollars to is

1016
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: is having the season that he's having. But again, I

1017
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: mean you go back to that, and it's like, Okay, well,

1018
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: they needed a body, they needed a guy with some

1019
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: experience whatsoever, and it's certainly not somebody that they're married

1020
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: to having as a key component of their defense. So

1021
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: I just look at it as whatever. I you know,

1022
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: I didn't overreact to the signing when it happened, and

1023
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not overreacting the fact that he's not having

1024
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: a good year right now because the long term plan

1025
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: was for the rookies to be the guys anyway, So

1026
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: it certainly hasn't even lived up to whatever modest expectations

1027
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: you could have had. But I don't think that's the

1028
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: end of the world. All right, Let's get to some questions.

1029
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Speaker 1: You guys give us a call or hit us on

1030
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Speaker 1: one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.

1032
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Let's start with a question from Twitter. With the bye

1033
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: week up on us, are we going to see a

1034
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: change in the secondary workout some free agents? Do you

1035
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: guys see them? I wouldn't be surprised. No, I definitely

1036
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: would expect them to bring in some guys just for workouts.

1037
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: But that just because they have the ability to do that,

1038
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't always mean that you sign them. You just

1039
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: want to see who's out there out there. Sometimes it's

1040
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: a favor to the agent too, because once you put

1041
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, once you put a workout out there, it

1042
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: goes through the whole wire. So his name goes out.

1043
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: They'll do that. But who Okay, no one carell We

1044
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: just talked about him, But like, whose job are you

1045
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: trying to take away in the secondary? Again, I don't

1046
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: think it's a matter of taking jobs away as much

1047
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: as it is seeing what's out there in the event

1048
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: you sustain more injury Cheeto, and right now, the cornerback

1049
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: position has been a position where you've had a lot

1050
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: of injuries so far. I think you would be smart

1051
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: to probably do some some reconnaissance on the offensive on

1052
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: offensive linemen that are out there. You know your tackle

1053
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: has a back problem. You know that you've had injuries

1054
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: with Chaz Green and probably will continue to have injuries

1055
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: with Chaz Green. So you know, just looking to see

1056
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: what's out there in the event you get into the

1057
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: second half of the year and you start getting some

1058
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: injuries at some of these positions that make it to

1059
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: where you need to bring in a guy. If you

1060
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: had four more games at the end of the season

1061
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: for Cheetoh, if he got to play four games at

1062
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: the end, would you think that that would be enough

1063
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: so we would go into his second year and go, Okay,

1064
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: he's got some good experience under his belt. Because but

1065
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: are you saying so that you'll have enough to cut

1066
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: n Carol? Is that I'm not talking about Carol. I'm

1067
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: talking about trying to talking about IR. I'm trying to

1068
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: fix this problem. I got this hamstring problem. But I

1069
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: don't really want to want to just kill his rookie

1070
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: season either. Um, so I think if you think a

1071
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: month would be plenty, yeah, I mean him down. Yeah,

1072
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at it. You can say,

1073
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's put him on IR. That's seven games

1074
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: because you get the buy a week. You put him

1075
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: on IR, now eight weeks to return, you're gonna miss

1076
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: seven games. But you're having a cornerback inactive every week anyway,

1077
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: So why not just be him and then if he

1078
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: can come back in a month or so I was

1079
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think you need to put him on

1080
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: I make him inactive. Well you got I mean, they

1081
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: have two weeks until they need they play another game,

1082
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: and then you can probably carry him as an inactive

1083
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: for two or three weeks after that. I'd still at

1084
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: this point be surprised if he's on it. Yeah, I

1085
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: just wonder, you wonder what the what the situation is

1086
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: with the hamstring. I don't even know the same hamstrings

1087
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: before I didn't have it. You know that, like if

1088
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: for anybody that doesn't know losses. It's it's hard to

1089
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: get information after a loss because people are to find people,

1090
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: people are piecing the hell out of there. I mean,

1091
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Garrett press conference lasts like five minutes.

1092
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Dak talked for three minutes. But but I will see

1093
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: if the team was out of the locker room by

1094
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: the time we got in there. And we talk about

1095
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: the guys that usually you know they're out immediately after

1096
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: a loss. Sometimes we do need to at least tip

1097
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: the cap to those that are willing to stand up

1098
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: and all the time. And Jason Witten right up there

1099
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: with him, Jason Zeke stood there, and Zeke last week

1100
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: and this I in there and and take the tough questions.

1101
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: Zeke deserves a lot of credit because the talking point

1102
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: around him is that he's young and immature. But two

1103
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, he stood right there and answered

1104
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: all you know whatever. Last week he wasn't a great

1105
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: conversation for him, like sure, yeah, And he stood there

1106
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: and he answered the question yesterday after the game, after

1107
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: giving up that game winner, Jordan Lewis, he stood there

1108
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: and he took the questions after not a great game.

1109
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith stood there, took the question. So there are

1110
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: some guys in this locker room that are stand up

1111
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: guys that are willing to stand up and do what

1112
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I think is their responsibility and talk to the fans

1113
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: through the media even after they've lost or even after

1114
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: things haven't gone their way and have a good day. Yep,

1115
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Let's let's get another question. Should

1116
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Mary New he call up more blitz packages to help

1117
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: his personnel? Um, you know he did call some blitzes

1118
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: and and they don't They just don't get home. I mean,

1119
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know in a situation like this,

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: And I kind of said that to you on the

1121
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: field at the end of the game, like I would

1122
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: have blitzed him now a back shoulder fade. I don't

1123
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: think a blitz really matters about that. Um, I would

1124
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: have done a little bit more pressure at the end

1125
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: of the game there, because I would have just because

1126
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: how much a sack is, how important it is, because

1127
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: he knows he can't take a sack, he's gonna hold

1128
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: onto the ball just a little bit less. So I

1129
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: think if you if you blitzed and pressured him there.

1130
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: But to the question in general, Um, I don't know.

1131
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if the pass rush was how much

1132
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: of a problem was it. I mean they kind of

1133
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: got after it a little bit like him, like irving

1134
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: on the nose, but that was when they they usually

1135
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: got after him when they had a four man front,

1136
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: and at that in that last drive, they're primarily doing

1137
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: three man front, and so I I personally feel like

1138
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: and that that goes back to just you know, if

1139
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: you when you're in those kind of situations, saying we're

1140
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: just gonna keep everything in front of us. I think

1141
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: with a quarterback like that, you keep coming at and

1142
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: playing your bass defense. I do, and I know a

1143
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: lot of people may different. I just think I'd rather

1144
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: go down saying I played my defense that I know

1145
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: can get pressure and kind of cover, rather than saying

1146
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: we're just gonna throw everything back and not really worry

1147
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: about the pass rushes. I think more often than not,

1148
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: I really like the three man front cloggin cover idea,

1149
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, he's gonna get rid of the ball quick,

1150
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: he's smart. You're probably not going to pressure him into

1151
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: a huge mistake or a sack. Because of again, who

1152
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: you're playing. If you were playing Blake Bortles by all means,

1153
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: but you're not so I think I'd rather just concede.

1154
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather just conceive that I'm not going to get

1155
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: to him and have as many guys trying to rally

1156
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: to the ball carrier as possible. But I don't feel

1157
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: super strongly about it. I mean, yeah, but I think

1158
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: as you saw yesterday and as you'll probably see him

1159
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: most games where he's where you're playing a quarterback like that,

1160
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: like if you give them, if they've got time, I

1161
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: don't care how how many guys you got there back

1162
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: there trying to cloth things up. They're gonna find an

1163
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: open receiver because he's very good at buying extra time,

1164
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: and its receivers are very old good when he's buying

1165
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: extra time to be able to find a way to

1166
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: get open. It's almost as if when you're playing a

1167
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: quarterback of that caliber, you should do everything possible to

1168
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: keep the ball out of him from having the ball last.

1169
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: That's I think Brian's gut feeling. Like we write up

1170
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: a review of how we thought the game win, and

1171
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: Brian was like, you just knew whoever had the ball

1172
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: last was gonna win. I was like, well, you had

1173
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: a chance to have the ball last, and you passed

1174
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: on it. I think that's an overstatement. I don't think

1175
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: they had a chance to have the ball last. They

1176
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: had a chance to decrease the amount of time Rogers,

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00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say that that's true. That is true.

1178
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: They did have them. But we didn't even talk about that.

1179
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Amazing him. You know, that was crazy, Like it's like

1180
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: the place stopped before it really stopped, Like everybody just stopped,

1181
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, because the ball still wive guys, let's

1182
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: keep going. I don't know. I think I don't know

1183
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: how the stat crew and they got thrown issues over there,

1184
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: but I think that it should be a turnover the Packers.

1185
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: And then I think Travis Frederick should have got a

1186
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: turnover for stripping the ball getting it back, um, and

1187
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then after that that something could have

1188
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: happened there when he got the ball back. But um,

1189
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I mean, okay, it's a lot of

1190
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: the thing, but it but when he when he got

1191
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: the ball there and he kind of just started running

1192
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: with it, I mean maybe if he could have pitched

1193
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: it and then they could have they could have got

1194
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: it over towards the Cowboys sideline. It was entertaining. I guess,

1195
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were down on the field. It's

1196
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: a lot of give me the mic. I mean, it's

1197
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fun being down there in that environment,

1198
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: in those types of situations, but it really hinders how

1199
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: well you see what's going on, you know, because you're

1200
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: on eye level with these guys. But it was it

1201
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: was pretty wild. Yeah, I don't know if they would

1202
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: have played it the same way, But what if that

1203
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: was Bryce streaking down the middle of the field instead

1204
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: of Beasley, you know, if if he could have Oh yeah,

1205
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: but but I I thought, just looking at it, I

1206
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: thought that the Beasley was gonna like, if he could

1207
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: have caught the ball that he was, he would have scored.

1208
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: But I think, no, I don't think he would. He wouldn't.

1209
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: But I do think then they have a shot. They

1210
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: can take one shot at the end zone. Yeah, like

1211
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: a legitimate shot. Well, I'm okay, who cares about that?

1212
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: That was never gonna work. But I'm glad you mentioned

1213
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: that because this team had the ball at midfield with

1214
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: timeouts and what like eighteen seconds on the clock when

1215
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Dak was sacked right before halftime and they just gave

1216
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: up against again, knowing that Aaron Rodgers was going to

1217
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: get the ball coming out of the third quarter. Maybe

1218
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: you can throw a ball. You have a timeout, so

1219
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: maybe you can throw a ball to the middle of

1220
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: the field and kick along field goal or may just

1221
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers have scored how many touchdowns on just bs

1222
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: hail mary's at the end of halves? I agree with you.

1223
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Just try it. You like, in my mind, was it

1224
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: twenty one six at that point or twenty one twelve.

1225
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: It's twenty one twelve, I think to twelve at halftime.

1226
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: So you're up nine and I'm just assuming Aaron Rodgers

1227
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: is going to get them points coming out of halftime.

1228
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: He's just he's gonna do it. Yeah, They're gonna have

1229
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: thirty thousand fans in the stands, and it's so, why

1230
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: isn't there more urgency to go try to get points

1231
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: on the board? Talking about throw a hail Mary, whatever that,

1232
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: But I throw along pass to get in positions for fuel.

1233
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that part. They would have quickly called

1234
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: a time out. I think they could have gotten a

1235
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: play to maybe get them into field goal range and

1236
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: then get a shot. I can tell you why they

1237
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: don't throw a hall Mary. It's because of Troy Aikman.

1238
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Troy Aitman's who are Troytman's two prominent backups in the nineties,

1239
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, Who else? Wade Wilson? Where are they on

1240
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: the staff? Yeah, they hate it. Aikman hated the hail

1241
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: Mary because he says it killed your stats because you

1242
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: got you you would get an interception for no reason

1243
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: out there, So he didn't like throwing it. He rarely

1244
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: threw it. They don't like throwing it. Wade Wilson has

1245
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: said before that they don't. They don't necessarily like to

1246
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: throw that play. I don't care about the stats, but

1247
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: they'll they'll do that so stupid. It is stupid. Well,

1248
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna say that, but I don't. But

1249
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't think the hell Mary. I don't even care

1250
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: about the hell Mary with I'm agree it's not the

1251
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: hell Mary. You had a shot with some time out

1252
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: do something over the middle. Just see what happened. He

1253
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: can kick a fifty. I mean you would try it

1254
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: for sixty yeah, right going into the half, you would

1255
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: definitely try. Aaron Rodgers is it's it's October, so Aaron

1256
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers is Michael Myers like he's just gonna get up

1257
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: and just keep coming with the big kitchen knife, and

1258
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: you have you just a kitchen knife. Yeah, you just gotta.

1259
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: You have to just almost play. Is it bad that

1260
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the defensive tackle from the two thousands back?

1261
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I actually thought of both. I thought of both. There

1262
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah, Ken knows Kin sendo movies. Wow, you

1263
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: almost have to play. You have to be afraid of

1264
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: putting your defense on the field when you play this guy.

1265
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't care who you have either, and they didn't

1266
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: in multiple occasions. Ken, It's been fifty nine minutes we've

1267
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: talked about Aaron Rodgers getting the ball to go win

1268
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: the game. You know, it's some scary thought, and you're

1269
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: just now playing that like that would have been perfect,

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Speaker 1: Yeah this Friday. Yeah, all right, guys, are ach you Johnius.

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Speaker 1: I'm about that tomorrow for Nick even Dave Hellman amber Garcia.

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