1 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Bally BTT, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. You are your hosts, 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's do a live on a Monday initiative, 7 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely bo Z is off, 8 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: but he will join momentarily from the beaches of South Florida. Look, 9 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: this is certainly two hours ago, not the show we 10 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: were anticipating doing. 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: But life changes. 12 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: It comes at you quick and are certainly aware of 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: the trade request of Miles Garrett the quote. As a 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: kid dreaming of the NFL, all I focused on was 15 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl, and that 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: goal fuels me today now more than ever. My love 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: for the community of Northeast Ohio and the incredible fan 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: base of the Cleveland Browns had made this one of 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: the toughest decisions of my life. These past eight years 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: have shaped me into the man I am today. While 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: I've loved calling this city my home, I desire to 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: win and compete on the biggest stages won't allow me 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: to be complacent. The goal was never to go from 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland to Canton. It was always been to compete for 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: and win a Super Bowl. With that in mind, I 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: requested to be traded from the Cleveland brown obviously from 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: the Browns perspective. We've seen this from various beat writers. 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: We've seen it from some of the national folks as well. 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: The organizational stance on this is what Andrew Berry said 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: last week, not trading Miles Garrett. That's it. That's the list. 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: So you're at a bit of an impasse here. As 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: this trade request for Miles Garrett hit about two hours ago, 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: there was some consternation around this towards the end of 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: the season. Miles had his availability at the end of 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: the season, obviously, ab he had his as well, and 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: the feeling kind of had was that there must have 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: been some sort of an agreement that was reached or 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: at least an understanding, and this one does come out 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: of nowhere. I did not see this one coming so 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: much so that we and I hate to do this. 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: You take time off, you deserve your time, but it 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: does seem when you go to Florida, my friend, big 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: things tend to happen. I don't know what it is 44 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: with that. It's crazy. I don't think I've overstepped with 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: anything from my vantage point. Obviously, this is pretty shocking 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: to come out eleven o'clock on the Monday before the 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, very surprising, to be honest with you. You know, Miles 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: was just down at the Pro Bowl representing Melley himself 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, and so yeah, they get this kind of 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: a week Monday of Super Bowl week was certainly a big, 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 4: big surprise because you were kind of I heard what 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: you were saying earlier there that you know, you had 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: Miles at the end of the year, you know, and 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: there was some concernation about this, you know, towards the 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: end of the season, and Miles kind of had hinted 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: at it but said, you know, you need to go 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: talk to them, hear their plan. And then if you 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: remember on Hard Knock they interviewed him, he said basically 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: that he had talked him that the Browns are a 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: lot closer than people think, and he felt good about that. 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: And so that was kind of the last image that 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: you really had seen publicly talked about. It was Miles 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: saying that and so you kind of thought, okay, well, 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: it seems like they're they're on the same page there, 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: and then obviously you get this announcement here today. And look, 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: Andrew Barry was adamant down at the Senior Bowl when 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: asked would he trade Miles Garrity said no, And that's 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: the Browns position right now. Miles still under contract for 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: two more years, and I think that's their position. So 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: how this plays out, I don't know. You would have 72 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: loved to have had something like this never be in 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: public per se, because I know that it helps anybody involved. 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: But you know, there's always parts of negotiations that happen 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: and something still sometimes people you know, want to negotiate 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: in public because it gives them more leverage. And certainly 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine that the Cleveland Browns would have 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: usurped the Super Bowl on Super Bowl Week, and yet 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: here we are because of the demand of Miles Garet, 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: who is, you know, the best edge defender in the league. 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year last year, could be Defensive 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: Player of the Year again this year. And so yeah, 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: this is one that you know, kind of rocks it 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: to its its very foundations. But as we've been talking 85 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: about all along. We've had Miles, we had you know, 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Joe Thomas, all of those guys in their prime. And 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: the reasons this organization has not been able to do 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: what Miles wanted to do, which is play for a 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: super Bowl, is because they have not gotten the quarterback 90 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: position right. And that is something that they are going 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: to have to do and have to do very quickly. 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: And I've spent some time and we'll talk about when 93 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: I come back Wednesday, but you know, watching the top 94 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: quarterbacks in this draft, and that are definitely our guys 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: that are certainly capable of turning it around here with 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. So I think that's that's still the 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: overarching thing. And now this is we didn't think it 98 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: would kind of as one of your things, you know, 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: second may as well be eighth. We thought that any 100 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: other kind of offseason news would be second be an 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: eighth relative to get in the quarterback. But now files 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: making this public declaration that you know, that becomes a 103 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: pretty close second. 104 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: It does. And the. 105 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: You know, as you're going through your positional reviews, which 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 2: which we've done over the course the last couple of weeks, 107 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: and one of the things that that you can't help. 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: But notice is that there's a lot of things that 109 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: need to be addressed roster wise, that in we haven't 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 2: necessarily got old Quick, but we kind of got old quick, 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: and and we've we got expensive and old quick kind 112 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: of all at the same time. And so you know 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: the thing that we don't know. And look, they're not 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: gonna front office is not gonna tell us this. This 115 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: is because it doesn't do them any good to But 116 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: what we don't know is what their approach to this 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: offseason is. Because you can say whatever you want publicly, 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: but behind closed doors maybe it's different. 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: We don't know if this is a. 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Not tear down to the studs, but a real remodel 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: of this of this home, or if this is gonna 122 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: a couple of get a couple of coats of paint. 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: I think the former is probably required. If you're going 124 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: to inevitably chase down a Super Bowl, is that you 125 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: probably need a remodel here. Code of paint is not 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: going to do it. And there aren't quarterbacks that are 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: available in the Canna paint world, that's remodel world. So 128 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: you've gotten a lifeline with this number two pick in 129 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: the draft, and now a ranch kind of thrown in 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: that publicly, at least with the trade request for Miles 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: and you've reiterated, I reiterated what Andrew Barry had to say, 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: We're not trading him. You call me with this hang 133 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: up whatever. 134 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: All of that. 135 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: If they are to get back in the fold with him, 136 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: and if they are, if ab is a man of 137 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: his word, he's not going to trade him, which we 138 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: have no reason to believe that he would. 139 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: What does the path to that look like? 140 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: You draft the right quarterback at number two? 141 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: Period? Right? 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I really think that's it as we sit 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: here today. And that's why I keep saying this asset 144 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: has got to be a real shot at a quarterback. 145 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 6: Now. 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: You could push that into next year, but I think this. 147 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: You know, I've watched a bunch of shore standers on 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: the way down. I've got Cam wore queued up and 149 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: watched a little bit of him, and we'll watch more 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: on the way back. These are guys who there are 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: players in this draft at that position that you can 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: win with. And you are set up with Kevin Stefanski, 153 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: the two time Coaches of the Year, with Tommy Reach, 154 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: with Bill Muskrave to put a quarterback or a young 155 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: quarterback in a good environment to get the most out 156 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: of their talents. And I think that's the that's the 157 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: only path, isn't it, to get that position right. And 158 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: that's why it has been number one. It has to 159 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 4: be the overarching thing. And while Miles is a critically 160 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: important piece of what you do, and you want to 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: keep the best edge defender in the league with you 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: with that young quarterback, the only way that you're going 163 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: to be able to do that is to draft that player. 164 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: And so perhaps you still have that opportunity, as we 165 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: thought all along, perhaps this is a way. You know 166 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: that for Miles and the Browns is just saying, okay, look, 167 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: if we're doing this long term together, let's get that done. 168 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: Let's see what that looks like. And perhaps it's getting 169 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: more expensive, but you want to have that in place 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: because it's still the overarching goal of this organization has 171 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: to be to get a quarter that you truly believe 172 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: can compete with Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow and Patrick 173 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: Mahomes and Josh Allen. Because until you get somebody of 174 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: that ilk, you're not winning the Super Bowl. Now again, 175 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: there are ways to go about be ten and seven 176 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: every year, and that would certainly be a lot more fun, 177 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: but eventually that gets old when you don't win a 178 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. The goals to win a Super Bowl quarterbacks 179 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: still has to be the top priority. And you'd love 180 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: to be able to get a rookie to pair with 181 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett because that's how that makes those things feasible. 182 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: And you saw what a remodel can do, and you 183 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: saw it, I think in not only in Denver with 184 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: bo Nix, you saw it certainly in Washington with Daniels, 185 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: and I think New England, who kind of really did 186 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: rip it down to the studs, feels pretty good about 187 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: where they are with Drake May. Atlanta feels pretty good 188 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 4: where they are with Michael Pennock. So you've got to 189 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: be able to get that guy. And you have an 190 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: opportunity at number two to do that, you know. 191 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: And this our great friend the Hoff Miles like you 192 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: think about guys of that, you know, first ballot Hall 193 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: of Fame guys, right, And the reality is is Miles 194 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: was as good this year as he was. 195 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: Last year, and we went three and fourteen. So if you. 196 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: Don't have offensive weaponry. If you do not have the quarterback. 197 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: The rest of this stuff, they're building blocks, they're foundational pieces, 198 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: but there's a hard ceiling on how far you can 199 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: go that way. You have got to score points in bunches, 200 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: and you've got to have elite quarterback play, and. 201 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: You got to have weapons. So that's it. 202 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: That's what this whole off season has to be about it. 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: It's not even more complicated than that. 204 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, this doesn't change that. This just gives you a 205 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: closer number two priority than perhaps you would expect it. 206 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: Yes, what do we. 207 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: And look, you and I are in This is a 208 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: difficult spot, right we do Cleveland Browns daily. I'm sitting 209 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: in the facility at the moment doing it. You're on vacation, 210 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: which I hate bugging you on the vacation, and we'll 211 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: get you out of here quickly. Just in terms of 212 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: trying to if let's just entertain the rest is it, 213 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: how difficult is it to trade him? Because I'm looking 214 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: at some of the stuff of these folks who talk 215 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: about like the cap I guess there's always a way 216 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: around those things, but it seems like this is a 217 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: very difficult even if they wanted to entertain it again. 218 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: Andrew Berry is saying no chance, and I take him 219 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: at his word. 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: No chance. But even if they if they've tried to 221 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: flip that, I don't even know how. I think it's 222 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: a very difficult thing to try to do. 223 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 4: I think that they'd be able to get takers. It 224 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: just is going to come with costs to the Browns 225 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: thirty six million in dead money. So because they've restructured 226 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: him to push money forward so they can load up 227 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: the roster around him, you know, those are That's some 228 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 4: of the things that makes it. It's not like, oh, 229 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: you're at the part of his contract that's not guaranteed anymore. 230 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: It's just an easy send across. No, it's not because 231 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: of the dead money that you would come associate with 232 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: it now. That is again small potatoes. I think that 233 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: they could. They they they're very good working around the cap. 234 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: And again, when you have the quarterback and it feels 235 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 4: like the only guy that would solve that would be 236 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: a quarterback on a rookie contract. That's going to make 237 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: things a lot easier for you. You're going to come 238 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: free of the Deshaun Watson money in a couple of years, 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: but you still have the ability to put together a 240 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 4: very good football team right now. The key is the quarterback, 241 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: and that's where all eyes are going to go, not 242 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: only in free agencycause I think it's a two pronged approach, 243 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: but the big home run swing obviously is likely to 244 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: come via this draft. 245 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Diana Russini with this, while the my I just want 246 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: to kind of you got a triple verifies you know. 247 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Diana Russini with this. While Miles Garrett's public trade request 248 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: is the story of the week already, it wasn't a 249 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: surprise to the Cleveland Browns. They've known about this request 250 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: for quite some time. That is from Diana Russini reporting 251 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: that that the Browns have been aware of this for 252 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: quite some time. I can't speak to that or not. 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: She's reporting it. She's pretty dialed in, So take do 254 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: with that what you will. So they've I wonder if 255 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: they knew about it. Did they know about it when 256 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: AB spoke down? And I would leave me to believe 257 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: based on her reporting that she's that they knew about 258 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: this when AB was available last week at the Senia Bowl. 259 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: And so perhaps that was more than a talking point 260 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: to other teams that could have been a public at 261 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: the time, we didn't realize it a public talking and 262 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: this is a public response, which I could see that 263 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: and that actually knowing if that timeline makes sense, it 264 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: makes a little bit more sense some of the wording. 265 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: I think maybe that Miles used because maybe he felt 266 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: like ab saying that at the Senior Bowl definitively was 267 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: more than what we knew it was at the time. 268 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would that would add up. And then 269 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: this is this is the player's public response to that. 270 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. 271 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: Look, I think I feel confidence they're going to work 272 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: it out. He's, as I said, under contract for two years. 273 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: Here Andrew Barry says they're not trading him. They're under 274 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: no obligation to trade him. We've seen people make trade 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 4: requests in the past that were not you know, remember 276 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: David Njoku made a trade request that I want to 277 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: be traded and they said, well, you're not getting traded. 278 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: And they've worked it out and he's had a very 279 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: prosperous career with the Cleveland Brown So I think that 280 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: it's sometimes these things are more you know, negotiation impostering. 281 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: Otherwise it wouldn't be done in the public. So it's 282 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 4: you know, take it with a grain of salt, and 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: remember that. I think the focus and number one over 284 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: every thing is getting a quarterback. That and if you 285 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: get a quarterback, Miles Garrett, everybody wants to play here. 286 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: So that is should be what what everybody's focused on, 287 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: because that is the key to everything. 288 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's pretty simple, folks. It's the winning. People 289 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: like winning. 290 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: You win, and you have quarterbacks, and and that's the 291 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: way all of those things go. 292 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: Uh hey, be safe down there. Watch out for the birds. Yeah, 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: lots of birds everywhere. 294 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, god. 295 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: No, Literally, get yourself a retriever something to go run 296 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: a little uh you know, a little interference on those 297 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: then yeah, yeah. 298 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just kind of flap my arms around and 299 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: kaka and there they go. 300 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: Well, well, guard miss k with your life and we'll 301 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: talk to you and the rest of your vacation. 302 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: By the way, don't ever go to Florida again. 303 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: I know, I told her. 304 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: I said, it's off Arizona. We've always had great, great luck, 305 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: great weather, no big news Florida though, it's been left 306 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: and right. Every time we come down here. 307 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: You get left and right. You got birds everywhere. We 308 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: got breaking news every time you come. All right, buddy, 309 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: enjoy it, alright, I see just so the audience who 310 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: I mean, and certainly some of you who listen, uh 311 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: and and watch loyally will recall this. Pretty sure Zigura 312 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: was in Florida for Jarvis Landry being released. Pretty sure 313 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: he was in Florida for the signing of Jadavian Clowney. 314 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Pretty sure he was in Florida at the beginning of 315 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: the pursuit of Deshaun Watson. 316 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: So like he goes to Florida, this is this is 317 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: what comes with it? 318 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: Uh? 319 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: Is this? 320 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Look there these things, this is this is now it's 321 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: a public Diana Rossini, I have no reason to not 322 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: believe she's very very good, well sourced. The idea that 323 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: the Browns knew about this according to her reporting for 324 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: quite some time is is noteworthy. I think I think 325 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: that does make Miles comments publicly today even the public 326 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: shot back across the bow is is what that is? 327 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: And then certainly you've seen the reporting in terms of 328 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: of our response to this, of being very steadfast in 329 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: the notion of not trading Miles. I think the Russina 330 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: reporting gives you context on what Andrew Berry said last 331 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: week down in Mobile to the respect of Hey, he 332 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: was according to Russini, he would have been aware that 333 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: this trade request had been made, and that that was 334 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: his response to the league, which was essentially, I'm not 335 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: taking calls. 336 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: We're not moving him. 337 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of the way that that goes, 338 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: and I think that does make a little bit more 339 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: sense with the way that trickled out yesterday. A lot 340 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: of layers to this, obviously, the official layers of the organization, 341 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: the official comments for Miles, and then all of kind 342 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: of the offshoots of this thing via how this roster 343 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: gets shaped, what part of that Miles can be sold upon? 344 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: If and you take Andrew Berry's word, we're not trading 345 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. So then the question becomes, how do you 346 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: shape this roster to make him happy. 347 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: He's difficult to trade. You can figure it out. 348 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to take on some costs, as he 349 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: put out, if you were able to trade him. But again, 350 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: they have no interest in trading him. They've made that 351 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: abundantly clear. That being said, this now being out there 352 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: in the public sphere allows for teams to start calling 353 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: them about him. So there's that part of it that's 354 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: out there as well. And so how do you convince 355 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett to be locked in, to be the face 356 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: of the organization, to not be interested in playing somewhere 357 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: other than Cleveland, and to take back his trade request. 358 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: Quite simply, you build a winner very quickly, So you 359 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: need to hit on a quarterback somehow, free agency, draft, 360 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: one way or another, and you need to get this 361 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: thing flipped around very quickly. They have a lot of picks, 362 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: they have a lot of assets, They have a lot 363 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: of things that need band aids on them. So this 364 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: was a critical, critical off season to begin with, critical 365 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: off season in terms of the draft, in terms of 366 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: redoing some contracts to make the cap work. And now 367 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: this is just another layer on top of it. The 368 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: official trade request of Miles Garrett, which became public today, 369 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: but again according to the reporting of Diana Rossini, was 370 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: not something that's surprised the Browns, although a very big 371 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: surprise to the rest of us. As we kick off 372 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Week, we will get into how what this 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: would look like financially. We will hear from some of 374 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: the pre eminent luminaries in the sport their reactions to this. 375 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: You will hear from Abe down at the Senior Bowl too, 376 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: his thoughts on Miles, the ones we've alluded to many 377 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: many times. You have that to look forward to. Chef 378 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: he was on RBS this morning. We'll have that for 379 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: you as well. Second hour of the program, Seciliano will 380 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: join right at two o'clock and then at two thirty 381 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: Dan Graziano will join as well. 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Hello, Gibbe, Hi, how are you. Oh, 396 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: I'm great, I'm great. 397 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: Sun's not out. 398 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: No, it is warm. 399 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it is warm. That's good. Yeah, what a day. 400 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: We literally had a rundown put together. And at about 401 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 5: quarter to eleven, g Man looked at me and he goes, 402 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 5: so Miles just requested a trade that I just threw 403 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 5: it away and said, good news. We'll start all over. 404 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 405 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: And again to reiterate the stance of the Cleveland Browns 406 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: is what Andrew Berry said at the Senior Bowl, what 407 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: he said in his postseason press conference. Is it which 408 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: is they're not trading Miles Garrett, save your time, don't 409 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: call us that being said, it obviously is the story 410 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: of the day. And I was just trying to think 411 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: from the perspective of like this town and the sports 412 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: legends in it, what is it? What is a similar 413 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: to this? Like Lebron never demanded to ask for a 414 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: trade or a question to trade, there was none of that. 415 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: He held the league hostage, but he didn't necessarily say 416 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: I would like to be moved. 417 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: I don't think a. 418 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: Baseball guy from like the nineties Indians that would. 419 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 5: Have I don't think anybody requested like Ceci got traded right, 420 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: but that wasn't him willingly uney to be on. 421 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: Oh hell, Kyrie was going to say the closest thing 422 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: would be Kyrie, but Tyrie's miles ahead of that. 423 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: No pun intended. 424 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kyrie, that was, and that was probably quite honestly, 425 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: the Kyrie. It's funny the Wretch. Retrospectively on that, a 426 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: lot of people said, oh, yeah, I saw this coming, 427 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: but I don't remember anybody writing it, because when that 428 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: came out of it felt like it was out of nowhere, 429 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: like hold on. And then after he requested it, then 430 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: it became oh yeah, I saw this coming. Well, nobody 431 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: wrote it until after, nobody talked about it until after 432 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: this one. There were rumblings at the end of the season, 433 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: and so much so that Miles was asked about it 434 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: on Hard Knocks about it if he was happy be 435 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: where the organization was heading, to the point where Andrew 436 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: Berry's been asked about it twice, so like there was 437 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: some conjecture that this potentially could be the case for 438 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: Miles here, So there's a little bit of. 439 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: That in it. 440 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: So this is from our good friend Jake Trotter, go 441 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 5: ahead one year ago, Yep, talk to Miles Garrett, and 442 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 5: I want to make sure I get the context right 443 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 5: from Trotter. This is what Miles Garrett told me a 444 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 5: little over a year ago, and he said, I'm not 445 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: judging or trying to demean anyone else on their journeys, 446 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: but for me, being with the team that drafted you 447 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 5: your entire career, winning a championship with them is the 448 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: most special thing you can do in your career. That's 449 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: why I'm always going to be committed to this. As 450 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 5: long as they have me. I'm going to be here 451 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 5: to do my best to elevate this team, elevate this 452 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 5: community and the city and bring it all home. And 453 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: I you know, can this get worked out? Absolutely? He's 454 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: under contract, like you said, for two years, and by 455 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: the way, there's franchise tags, there's things like two years. 456 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 5: The next few months is going to be very interesting 457 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: to see how this all gets worked out. 458 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: I think we got to get to a I think organizationally, 459 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: what you got to do though, at this point is 460 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: is you've got to You can't let it get to there. 461 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: You gotta And if Diana Verssini's reporting and she's locked in. 462 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't believe. 463 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure she's accurate on everything she says. But if 464 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: her reporting is accurate, and I believe that it likely is, 465 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: and that we've known about this for a while, then 466 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: all of this does start to make more sense. Andrew's 467 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: comments at the Senior Bowl started to make more sense. 468 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: Obviously. Miles line in. 469 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: Here the goal is never to go from Cleveland to Canton. 470 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean that is a direct line that ab used 471 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: in his press conference post. I mean in the in 472 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: the in the was it in the Real Sports or 473 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: the the HBO Hard Knocks Hard Knocks? He used that 474 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: exact line there used in the press conference. So it 475 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: clearly is Miles picked up on that and put that 476 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: in his statement. So that's all there. This is all 477 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: being done publicly now. The organization knew about it. They've 478 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: made their stance abundantly clear. We're not trading him the end. 479 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: In fact, if you're if you don't believe me on this, 480 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: here was ab keV do we have this? This was 481 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: ab last week at the Senior Bowl on Miles Garrett. 482 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 7: So if someone sees you get dinner today and it 483 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: says we're getting two points. 484 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: Great, you can put that on record, correct, you can 485 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: put that on record. Yep, yeah, Okay, it's on there. 486 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's there. 487 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a in terms of there's other reverberations of 488 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: this too to pay attention to, because I don't know 489 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: if it was we knew that there was a window. 490 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you drafted all these guys. You start with 491 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: Miles and Denzel and Shubb and Bake, and all those 492 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: guys are drafted around the same time. They were added 493 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: to a team that had Betonio, and then you acquire 494 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Teller and you start to get pieces around and you're 495 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: building a roster out. The acquisition of Jack Conklin was 496 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: a huge acquisition. The drafting of Jeremiah Susi Cormo and 497 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Grant Delpit and Martin Emerson and all this stuff, right, 498 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: it was all part of this big piece that you 499 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: were putting together. But as we were going through the 500 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: positional rankings, like Zie and I last week, one point, 501 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: I said, boy, we got you start to say, like 502 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: we need in this room, we need in this room, 503 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: we need in this room. So what the onus will 504 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: be on From Andrew Berry from organizational standpoint two, Miles 505 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: will be here's how we are going to be back 506 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: to being a Super Bowl contender quickly. When Miles said 507 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 2: those comments to Jake, there was so much hope that 508 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: you would get a healthy Deshaun Watson playing in a 509 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: shotgun offense and all the things that came with that. 510 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: There was all this hope that Nick Chubb would be 511 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: able to come back in relatively short order and be 512 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: some version of himself. Well, those things didn't happen. Unfortunately, 513 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: of no fault of their own. Deshaun went down with 514 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: an achilles injury. Nick got injured again for the season 515 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: and so was never able to get to full speed. 516 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: So from Miles perspective, you're looking at this, You're going, boy, 517 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: we're a long ways off. Meantime, Andrew Barry ownership may 518 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: have a stance of going, actually, we're not. We're a couple. 519 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: We're a pick here or a pick there. You look 520 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: at Jayden Daniels in Washington. Where was that organization a 521 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: year ago? But they hit on that kid. He was great, 522 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: turned it or validated it, and all of a sudden 523 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: they were in the NFC Championship game. So it can 524 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: flip very quickly. I think the one thing that And 525 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: this is me talking obviously not organizationally. You just would 526 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: like this from now on, whatever goes forward here to 527 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: be handled behind closed doors and privately, and the mending 528 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: of the fences between Miles and the front office and 529 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: the staff and all of it to convince him that 530 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: this is where he can win a Super Bowl. 531 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: That's the job. Yeah, and actions will speak maybe louder 532 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 5: than the words. 533 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 534 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got to hit on picks. You've got 535 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 5: to have a really good free agency. You have to 536 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: make the most of your cap space. You've got to 537 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: fill holes. Andrew said it, I think at the Senior 538 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: Bowl or in his final end of the season presser 539 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 5: actually last week of the Senior Bowl. The goal is 540 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 5: to have all of the holes filled so then you 541 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: could just go out and get talent in the NFL Draft. 542 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 5: There's a lot there are some holes to fill on 543 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 5: this football team, and this front office and this coaching 544 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: staff has been tasked with over the next three months 545 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 5: taking care of that and plugging the holes and finding 546 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: the right people. Can you you know Miles is under contract, 547 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 5: Can that the next three months show Miles, hey, you 548 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: want to be here? 549 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is. 550 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 5: What we're doing. It's going to be fascinating to watch. Yeah, 551 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: I mean it really is. 552 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's a lot way to go. 553 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: I mean it is, by the way, February third, twelve weeks. 554 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, you're a long way from from draft. 555 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: You're a long way from some of the things. Free 556 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: agency is kind of that you got the combine and 557 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: then free agency. That's just kind of chronologically how it works. 558 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: All right. 559 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: Just from let's hear from Mike Garrafalo. He had this 560 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: on NFL Network shortly after the Miles Garrett trade demands 561 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: were made public. 562 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: Here as Mike. 563 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 8: Brown's general manager, Andrew Berry has said that there would 564 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 8: be no stops in between, that he intended for Miles 565 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 8: Garrett to be drafted at Cleveland Brown and to end 566 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 8: his career as a Cleveland Brown. That has been the 567 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 8: stance of the organization. Go back to the trading deadline, 568 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 8: we reported that teams were interested in possibly trading for Garrett, 569 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 8: and the Browns were adamant they were not going to 570 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 8: trade him. They would not entertain offers, and they didn't 571 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 8: at the time. My understanding is, despite this statement, the 572 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 8: Browns are sticking to their stance and they do not 573 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 8: intend to have any conversations or trade Garrett I was 574 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 8: told that this morning in light of that statement that 575 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 8: has been released. 576 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: So just if you're curious, and you ought to be, 577 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: because this is a curious topic, what compensation looks like 578 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: of trading a star defensive end. The most recent one 579 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: of these to be traded was Khalil Mack and he 580 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: was traded at age twenty seven and Miles is twenty nine, 581 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: so Miles has two years on him, Miles more accomplished 582 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: at the time of the trade. Khalil max a stud 583 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: absolutely and I believe it was three ones for Khalil 584 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: Macks or was it two? It might be two ones, twos, threes. 585 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: Most of the stuff that I see if in terms 586 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: of starting this off is two ones or one multiple 587 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: twos and threes, that's kind of the compensation that you're 588 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: looking at. 589 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: So the Bears gave up two first round picks, okay, 590 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: a third round pick and a sixth round. 591 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: One six, one third and two ones. 592 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: Hold on right, Yeah, a potential trade comp This is 593 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: from Adam Schefter when twenty seven year ol Kalil Mack 594 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 5: was traded from Oakland to Chicago. The Bears gave up 595 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: two first round picks, a third and a sixth. They 596 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 5: also they got mac They got a second round pick 597 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: back and a conditional fifth, so they got additional assets 598 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 5: the Bears did, the Bears did. Yeah, So I mean 599 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: you're talking about multiple assets exchanging hands if you were 600 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 5: going to make that move. 601 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you've. 602 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 5: Got to figure out if if something were to happen, 603 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 5: And right now, as of one thirty one on Monday, 604 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 5: February third, it's not happening. But if the trade happens, 605 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: what do you do with the dead cap? There's a 606 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: big you can maneuver around the salary cap, but that's 607 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: a big number right there. 608 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. This is from sport Track Trading Miles Garrett. 609 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: New team acquires nineteen point eight non guaranteed in twenty 610 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: twenty five. I have twenty five million non guaranteed in 611 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. A dead cap the Browns would hit 612 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: of thirty six point two and he will be seeking 613 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: a deal. So there's that part of it as well. 614 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Currently projecting four years, one hundred and thirty seven million, 615 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: so there's a restructure. There's also a new contract part 616 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: of it that could be in play for Miles. 617 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 5: And that's part of the big picture of all this. 618 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: You know, is it Miles wanting to be the highest 619 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: paid non quarterback in the NFL or the highest paid 620 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: player in the NFL. 621 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot. 622 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't know. We're flying blind on that. 623 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 2: I don't You don't know what the motivation is. And 624 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: that's it goes back to with these guys, whether it's 625 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: Miles or look, anybody, anybody in front office, anybody in life. 626 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: What it comes down to is what's your why. I 627 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: don't know what makes Miles tick. I don't know. If 628 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: it is more money in a new contract with the Browns, 629 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know if it's if 630 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: you take it at his word in the statement and 631 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: that he wants to go chase a super Bowl. Look, 632 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: this isn't This isn't any shocking amount of information or 633 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: shocking statement. 634 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: We're not a super Bowl contender. We're not. 635 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: We went over this, we went through we went three 636 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: and fourteen. Like you are what your record says you are. 637 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 2: And in order to get back to anywhere in that vicinity, 638 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: you've got to have a dude at quarterback, have to 639 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: there's no way around it. 640 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: If you don't have that, you don't really have anything. 641 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: So you got to land that piece first, and then 642 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: once you land that piece, then the rest of the 643 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: things kind of fall into place. But it's currently constructed, 644 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: not now that can all flip with the number two 645 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: pick in the draft. It's not going to flip in 646 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: free agency. There are no free agent quarterbacks that are 647 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: going to paratroop in here and we're going to sit 648 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: in here going, oh yeah, super Bowl contender. 649 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: That ain't it. There's there's in terms of trading for them. 650 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: That's why the bounty for Deshaun Watson is what it 651 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: was because at the time of his acquisition, this guy 652 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: was the number one quarterback in the NFL. He led 653 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: the NFL in passing at the time you acquired him, 654 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: So that's why it costs what it cost to get him. 655 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: And you weren't alone. 656 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: There were other teams in the mix too, because you 657 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: had this team that was all coming together all at 658 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: the same time, and all you needed was a franchise 659 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: quarterback who was a top five to seven player in 660 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: the league at the position, and that's what Deshaun Watson 661 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: was at the time of acquisition. So that's how you 662 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: get where you are now. And the reality is the 663 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: only way to get out of this from a organization 664 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: standpoint is to land that quarterback. And Nathan's been saying this, 665 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: and I think he's the way he says, it's the 666 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: perfect way to say it, either directly at two or 667 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: the number two overall pick. Asset has to met you. 668 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: The quarterback solution for the next five years has to 669 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: that's the job. 670 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: No, you don't have a choice. No, yeah, I mean 671 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 5: it's I go back to this is interesting. John Dorsey 672 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 5: when he sat down with us at the NFL Combine, Yeah, 673 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 5: his first NFL combine top five positions quarterback, edge rusher, 674 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 5: wide receiver, shutdown corner, yep, offensive tackle, in no particular order. 675 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: He said, those are the five. Yeah, you gotta have 676 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 5: those five. Well, I mean that's you've got one in 677 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: your building. Yeah, you don't have to let him go out. 678 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: No, you don't know. 679 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: For the next two years he's in your building. You 680 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: have a shutdown corner in Denzel Ward. You do you 681 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 5: know Jerry Judy pretty good? Wide, pretty good. I think 682 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 5: he's a number one now, you know. Andrew Berry said 683 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 5: it himself gotta look at the tackle position, got some 684 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 5: things to figure out there. 685 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: And the quarterback, big Thanos can do it if he's healthy, correct, 686 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: Like he looks like a one if he's healthy. But 687 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: then it all comes back to the last one. And 688 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: the only thing I would push back on doors when 689 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: he said that, And he probably would have punched me 690 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: if I had, but I would have just said, that's 691 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: fine on those five. But one is one and seconds eighth. Yeah, 692 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: like eight through twelve is everything else and one is quarterback, 693 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: and it's a gap between them. And if you don't 694 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: have the first one, and then the rest of it 695 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: is minimal. 696 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: It goes back to the conversation we had last week 697 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 5: we played you know, Florio and Sims talking about Jamar 698 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: Chase compared, would you rather have Jamar Chase or would 699 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 5: you rather have this, you know, quarterback? This quarterback? No, 700 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: the answer is quarterback every time, every time, because without 701 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 5: the quarterback, nothing else matters. Now in this day and age, 702 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: in the NFL, nothing else matters now. 703 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: It's that simple. You got to you gotta have it. 704 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: So in terms of what what's next, this will be 705 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: really loud today and then it will die out and 706 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: you'll give into Super Bowl Week and you'll move on 707 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: and then into at least publicly, and then behind closed 708 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: doors conversations will have probably already been being having taken 709 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: place between Miles's leadership and the folks that represent him 710 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: and the Browns, and they will work out things behind 711 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: the scenes. It's possible that there will be more public 712 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: flare ups when you request a trade like this one 713 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: thing that you've kind of always I always get the 714 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: sense that if you are whatever league you're in, if 715 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: you request a trade, you you're if you do that publicly. 716 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: Once you do that, you kind of it's kind of 717 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: a the gloves are off moment, and you have to. 718 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: Say to yourself. 719 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: If you're the agency and you're representing, you almost have 720 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: to say, like okay, like this beeB ready, this is 721 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: going to get ugly, and you've got to be able 722 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: to kind of handle that. Now there's a great relationship 723 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: between Miles and everybody here in the organization, and hopefully 724 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: this can all be buttoned up rather quickly and he 725 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: can be happy again, and all all can go good 726 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: and well, and you won't have to You'll be able 727 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: to take Andrew Berry as his word and you won't 728 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 2: trade him no matter what. Let's hope that's the case. 729 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: But if they are steadfast in this, if Miles's group 730 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: is steadfast in this, is he represented by Clutch. I'm 731 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: pretty sure he's clutch. You check Miles's clutch. Yeah, okay, 732 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: so he's represented by Clutch. So they have in that 733 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: league been experts and finding a way of getting guys 734 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: homes away from where they were experts in this and 735 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: to do that, you got it, sometimes play in the 736 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: deep end of the pool, and they're willing to do that. 737 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: So hopefully this all goes smoothly. He gets all on 738 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: the same page. He believes with the plan that Andrew 739 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: Berry and the organization is put in front of him, 740 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: and you can get him to come back into the 741 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: fold and be happy and be back on his way 742 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: going from Cleveland to Canton. But if he digs in 743 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: the other side of this can get ugly. 744 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. Andrew Brant, Andrew Brant, who we've had on before, Yeah, 745 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: the Business of Sports. Yeah, had this tweet earlier two 746 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 5: hours ago. Garrett is a superstar NFL player, but he 747 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: is still a level below a star NBA player. NBA 748 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: superstars can basically trade themselves NFL superstars cannot No, he said, 749 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 5: remember when Aaron Rodgers wanted out of Green Bay in 750 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, the packers basically said, that's cute. 751 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: No, yep, no, yeah, that's it like it's it is 752 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: not the NBA. You can't do it that way. If 753 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: that's Hopefully all of that can be avoided though, because 754 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: that's the thing that you can't have, is you cannot 755 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: have you don't I guess, let me rephrase, you don't 756 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: want this with the most beloved player. I mean, you 757 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: guys go to the stadium, We go to the stadium, 758 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 2: you're there of your game. He is the loudest ovation 759 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: every single week. He's the most popular player on the 760 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: team for right Greason, Him and Nick. You know, but 761 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: Nick's been hurt the last couple of years, so it's 762 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: been Miles has been He's been the face of the organization. 763 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: You do not want this to go it publicly negative with. 764 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 5: Him, correct that it needs to it needs to be 765 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: handled behind closed doors. Hopefully both sides can do that. 766 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 5: And yes, uh you know, we'll see how it all 767 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 5: shake out. Yeah, I mean, we're gonna be really popular 768 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 5: at the combine buddy, God be a lot going on. 769 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: Its gonna be a lot going on there, Bro. 770 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 5: We're gonna need upgrades to the presidential suite that week. 771 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So that's where you stand on that, 772 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: and that's where we are at the moment. Coming up next, 773 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: some more context on this from a league perspective. Chefty 774 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: joined RBS earlier today. We will have that conversation for 775 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: you coming up nextualist to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by 776 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: bally Bet, official sports betting partner Cleveland Browns on a 777 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN. 778 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official 779 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight to 780 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: fifty esp and Cleveland. 781 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: Who's your Game Day this season with the bally Beat 782 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: sportsbook at Please your first bet at twenty five or 783 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: more than you eet one hundred and fifty back and 784 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 2: bonus bets Badly Beat, official sportsmanning partner of Your Cleveland Brown's. 785 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: Nice job by RBS this morning. Right before we got on, 786 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: they were able to mobilize quickly get Adam Schefter on 787 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: the program. Let's go ahead and dip in and have 788 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of listen to Chefty with RBS from 789 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: earlier today. 790 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 9: How shocked were you, Adam at this in the timing 791 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 9: of it right now? Did he come to you and 792 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 9: give you this information. 793 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 10: No, this was a statement that he released to various 794 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 10: members of the media, Okay. And I don't think it's 795 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 10: surprising that he's requested a trade. I think he's been 796 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 10: unhappy and he wants to win and it's important for 797 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 10: him to try to in a Super Bowl, and he 798 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 10: doesn't feel like they're making progress now. And I think 799 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 10: that the people that spoke to him throughout the season 800 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 10: recognized and sensed is frustration. This is not new. I 801 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 10: think the fact that it came up today, okay, we 802 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 10: can make a little bit of a case. Yeah, that 803 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 10: that's a surprise. But since the matter is he's felt this, 804 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 10: he just verbalized it and publicized it today. He could 805 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 10: have waited to the start of the combine, he could 806 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 10: have waited until Super Bowls. He could have done it 807 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 10: any time. But I think from his standpoint, he wants 808 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 10: to get the ball rolling. He wants people to know 809 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 10: he wants out. He's not waiting, and that's how he 810 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 10: is approaching this. 811 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: Adam Tony GROSEI here, do you think, oh Tom, that 812 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 3: he has told the Browns this privately before he issued 813 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 3: the statement. 814 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 10: This is. I do not believe this is a surprise 815 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 10: to them. I think that they were aware of his feelings. 816 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 9: Because they got back to us Adam and said that 817 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 9: they have no plans of entertaining offers for Miles Garrett. Now, 818 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 9: obviously that could change, and maybe that's what they have 819 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 9: to say at this time. But at the end of 820 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 9: the year he said he would talk to the Browns 821 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 9: about their offseason plans. Am I to assume that he 822 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 9: talked to them and didn't like the plans if he 823 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 9: came out with this. 824 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 10: Now, No, I wouldn't say that that's the case at all. 825 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 10: I don't know how we got from there to here. 826 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 10: I don't know the steps along the way that leads 827 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 10: him today to say this. I'm just guessing. I think 828 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 10: he says to them what he says. I think they say, 829 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 10: we're not trading you, we have no interest in trading you. 830 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 10: I think there's dialogue, and I think he feels like 831 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 10: he's at the point where he has to publicize this 832 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 10: to try to move it along. That's my guess. I 833 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 10: don't know that. 834 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 9: I saw your tweet about the klo Max situation. How 835 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 9: this is similar. How many teams do you think will 836 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 9: be interested in Garrett? What do you think the Browns 837 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 9: can get for him? 838 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 10: I would say that there will probably be about thirty 839 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 10: one other teams interested in Al Garrett. 840 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 9: If I had a guess, they want to go to 841 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 9: a contender at I mean, this is a move to 842 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 9: you know, he said he wants to play in a 843 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,479 Speaker 9: Super Bowl, So I mean, I know the Browns aren't 844 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 9: in a great position right now, but there's another a 845 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 9: lot of teams that are not. And then what about compensation? 846 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 9: Is this like an automatic two number one thing for 847 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 9: us or not? 848 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 10: Well, a couple of things. First of all, I think 849 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 10: the Browns and Andrew Berry have been very clear that 850 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 10: they're not treating Miles Garrett. And Andrew Berry was even 851 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 10: asked we can trade him for two number ones and 852 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 10: he said no, that wouldn't change my stance. So I 853 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 10: think we're at something of a stand up here. We 854 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 10: got a team that says it's not trading at star player. 855 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 10: We got a player who says he wants to be traded, 856 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 10: And now I think it's a question of what happens 857 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 10: from here. Do the Browns go to him and say, hey, 858 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 10: here's what we're doing. Who do you want to bring in? 859 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 10: Here's a new contract. Do they appease him in that regard? 860 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 10: How far are they willing to go to appease him? 861 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 10: Or is Miles Garrett willing to sit? Because if he's 862 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 10: willing to sit and be hardline on this, then he 863 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 10: can make life uncomfortable and that wouldn't be good for 864 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 10: the team. So who's going to give in on their stance? 865 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 10: Is Mob's going to give in on the moves that 866 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 10: they make and what they do? Or is he not? 867 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 10: Is he dead set? Dug in? Like again, we've hear 868 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 10: plenty of players request trades before nothing ever happens. Okay, 869 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 10: So I think the key part here is how each 870 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 10: side handles it from here. But I think when a 871 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 10: player goes public, he feels like that's the last resort 872 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 10: to making it public and to try to help the 873 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 10: process along. 874 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 11: Adam in your experience with the NFL, because we know 875 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 11: in the NBA, when a guy requests the trade, especially 876 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 11: a star, it usually means he's gone. What percentage of 877 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 11: the time you know, do you think that it's it's 878 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 11: like recoverable or what percentage of the time do you 879 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 11: think the guy gets dealt? 880 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: Just off the top of your head. 881 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 10: Well, again, I'll go to the forty nine ers. The 882 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 10: last couple of years, Deebo Samuel requested a trade two 883 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 10: years ago, wasn't traded. Brandon Ayuk requested her trade last year, 884 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 10: wasn't traded. So I mean there's two examples. Yeah, he uh. 885 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 10: Every situation is different, and I would not make a 886 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 10: generalization other than player requests in the NFL don't seem 887 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 10: to be store fire a recipe out of there as 888 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 10: it is in the NBA. 889 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 9: I love when you're probably looking at your phone and 890 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 9: still trying to talk to us. I follow you for 891 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 9: I know you don't know me, but I know you 892 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 9: so well I could tell that lad answer you were 893 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 9: looking at your phone. 894 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 5: Adam Schefter is Peters. 895 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: I guess he's. 896 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 9: Got one more minute, Schefty. What do you think now happens? 897 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 9: What's the next move here? Well, the Browns try to 898 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 9: meet with him. Do you think he's steadfast? What do 899 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 9: where do you see the showdown going? 900 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 10: Those are good questions, and if I'm the Browns, I 901 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 10: try to sit down and say, Miles, we're not going 902 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 10: to trade you, We're going to keep you here, and 903 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 10: we'd like to resign you and make you a Brown 904 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 10: for life. What is it going to take to do that? 905 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 10: And I would keep on him for that, and at 906 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 10: some point if he's dug any, he tells him, Guys, 907 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 10: I don't care what you offer me. You could offer me, 908 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 10: you know, half of the city of Cleveland, the Cleveland Flats. 909 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 10: I'm not coming. I'm not resigning and I'm not going 910 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 10: to be there. Like again, That's why I come back 911 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 10: to how far is he willing to push this, how 912 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 10: hardline is he? How dead set is he on this? 913 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 10: Obviously he feels pretty strongly now, but it's February second 914 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 10: or whatever today is Is he going to still feel 915 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 10: the same way on March second or April second? And 916 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 10: that's what we can't answer right now. 917 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: Adam, appreciate your time. No, you got to run. Thank 918 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: you very much. 919 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, chefty on with RBS from 920 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: earlier today, there's that part of the two long time 921 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 2: contract extension, Brown for life. 922 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 923 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 2: This is the difference is we assume all of those 924 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: conversations were taking place behind closed doors. This statement for 925 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: Miles today now puts it out into the public sphere, 926 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: and so that's what. 927 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 3: Changed it today. 928 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 2: The reporting from Chefty right there with RBS, and then 929 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: from Diana Rossini's at the Browns in the front office, 930 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: and everybody knew as known about this for a while. 931 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 2: Miles Desires probably also knew about it when Andrew Berry 932 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 2: made those comments down at the Senior Bowl about put 933 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: it on the record, we're not trading him. All of 934 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 2: those things are known, and now hopefully things go back 935 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: kind of behind the scenes and they come up with 936 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 2: a solution that makes everybody happy, with that solution being 937 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett remaining in Cleveland brown for the entirety of 938 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 2: his NFL career. 939 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 3: We'll get some perspective on this. 940 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano is going to join us at two o'clock. 941 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: We'll do a little Super Bowl with him as well. 942 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: Dan Graziano going to join us coming up at two thirty. 943 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: At some point on the program. 944 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 5: I know it's big, heavy news day, but the NBA 945 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 5: got a real drunk over the weekend, it did. 946 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot going on, by the way, 947 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 2: I mean, as if my days aren't more packed. I 948 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: spent three hours this morning identifying the fact that Ryan 949 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: Day has to hire a new offensive coordator, defensive coordator, 950 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: and offensive line coach. 951 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: All of that has to be done as well. 952 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: So, yes, it was a for a for the first 953 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: non non NFL weekend since July. It was all reloaded, loaded, baby, 954 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: all relatively well, it's all relevant. 955 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 3: Brother, There's so much going on. 956 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so lots to react to on all 957 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 2: of this in the sports world, and certainly here with 958 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: the Browns, with the public trade request of Miles Garrett, 959 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: will continue to do so. 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He is the play by play 971 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: voice of your Cleveland Browns. Andrew Siciliano, Buddy, how did 972 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: when you hear this news this morning? What what tracks 973 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: through your mind? 974 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 7: I think, hi bo, hi, buddy, let out. I think 975 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 7: it was pretty early in the morning here. I was 976 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 7: just actually sitting down with my first cup of coffee 977 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 7: for the day, and it just went. 978 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, there's a look. We know the organizational 979 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: stance on this of we're not trading him. Put it 980 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 2: on the record. That's well known, and we understand, certainly 981 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 2: from the reporting from Schefter and Rassini that among others, 982 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: that that, hey, the Browns have known about this, They've 983 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: expected this. 984 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: This is the public side. 985 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 2: There's a billion different parameters and angles to this in 986 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: terms of is this contract related, is a change of 987 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: scenery related? 988 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 3: Who knows? 989 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 2: But now it's been out in the public sphere, and 990 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 2: now you've got to deal with a little bit in 991 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: terms of you've been around the league a long time 992 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: in terms of major players of this nature requesting this, 993 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: what's your sense on precedent and what is your sense 994 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: on to mend the fences? 995 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: What does that. 996 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 7: Look like I think a couple of things. Number one, 997 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 7: Always you know, I am always a fan of keeping 998 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 7: things behind the scenes. My first reaction was, this reminded me. 999 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 7: It's a very different situation. But this reminded me of 1000 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 7: arriving in the combine a couple of years ago on Monday. 1001 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,479 Speaker 7: Again here super Bowl week, Monday. This was Combine week 1002 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 7: Monday when Kyler Murray's representative, Eric Burkhart released the statement 1003 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 7: demanding that Kyler get his full contract extension immediately as 1004 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 7: in yesterday kind of thing like, all right, well, the 1005 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 7: new league year doesn't even open for two and a 1006 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 7: half more weeks. What is this or this is very 1007 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 7: very different? And I think the question is here the 1008 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 7: timeline is, you know, did Miles as you mentioned, Diana, 1009 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 7: but at Albert Breer, a friend of the program report 1010 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 7: of the same thing, that this had been communicated before 1011 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 7: it was made public. I guess the question is why 1012 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 7: they need to make it public. Talking to some front 1013 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 7: office people from around the league, not in Borea, but 1014 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 7: from around the league today, everyone agrees, you know, if 1015 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 7: you truly truly had to trade him, you get at 1016 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 7: least two number ones. I guess my question would be 1017 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 7: what this does if you had to trade him to 1018 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 7: your leverage. I don't think it helps, but I think 1019 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 7: Miles would be again if you go down that route, 1020 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 7: one of the rare players where making it public actually 1021 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 7: could spark a bidding war. You know the Lakers, Yeah, 1022 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 7: Luca and nobody else was in on it. And I 1023 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 7: think you were listening to Windy or everyone else on 1024 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 7: Saturday night. Their reaction was, wait a minute, I'm hearing 1025 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 7: from gms around the league saying, why couldn't have I 1026 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 7: had a crack at that. 1027 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 3: No, that's it. 1028 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said there in terms 1029 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 2: of the I think the one thing you have to 1030 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 2: remember from the when you go public with it from 1031 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: and this is from Miles perspective, and you know we're 1032 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 2: in This came out at eleven o'clock and I'm doing 1033 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: the show from the team headquarters here, so I mean this, 1034 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: it's there's a challenge to all of this. 1035 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 3: But I think when you decide. 1036 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 7: Watching man like what would see in Florida? 1037 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: Like I mean again, every time he goes it's crazy. 1038 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 2: It's like every time it's something huge like this, I 1039 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,919 Speaker 2: told him he's not you go anywhere else, just not there. 1040 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: But when you do something like this publicly, you do 1041 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 2: there there is a sense and whether it were more 1042 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: you most used to this in the NBA world than 1043 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: we are in the NFL world. But when you go 1044 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: publicly like this, usually presentations back answer back to the 1045 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 2: athlete is we can go public, but if we do, 1046 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 2: this can get messy. This can now get pretty loud 1047 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: and pretty messy. And I've seen a lot of people 1048 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 2: thinking that could go that way as well. I know 1049 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 2: that's not the intent of the organization. The organizations to 1050 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: stuff this out quickly, make sure that Miles is a 1051 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown for life, and the absolute premium is on 1052 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: winning right now and not a rebuild, but a quick 1053 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: flip into being competitive next year. They have the assets 1054 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 2: to do at the end, the number two pick in 1055 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: the draft to be able to do it. How do 1056 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 2: you how do you put this genie back in the bottle? 1057 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: If you're Andrew Berry in ownership and and get this 1058 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 2: and get get Miles. And by the way, he's under 1059 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 2: contract for two more years. They're they're they're not required 1060 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: to trade him. It's not like that at all. How 1061 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: do how do you make how do you kind of 1062 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 2: make this right again between him and the organization, the 1063 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 2: way it was so right for so long. 1064 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 7: A couple of things. Number one, it is two more years, 1065 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 7: but this year's number is only twenty. So clearly twenty 1066 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 7: is far below market value for a guy of his 1067 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 7: credentials dpo Y last year, and you know I made 1068 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 7: the case over the weekend, and I made it last 1069 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 7: week as well, that you know his advanced metrics say 1070 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 7: he should be DPOY two years in a row. Although 1071 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to win the award. I 1072 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 7: think there are two ways. A give him the new contract, 1073 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 7: which AB has said publicly, and this is not necessarily 1074 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 7: as you guys know something that he generally does that 1075 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 7: he wants to give him the new contract. And then 1076 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 7: B you show him the path forward with this is 1077 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 7: our quarterback and this is what we're doing now. Listen. 1078 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 7: You can't make your best player your assistant GM, then 1079 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 7: you are the NBA. That said, I think Miles has 1080 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 7: earned at least a spot near the table. Maybe not 1081 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 7: at the table, but near the table. You want to 1082 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 7: make him happy, clearly, you want him to spend the 1083 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 7: rest of his career there. There are plenty of players 1084 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 7: who have requested trades in the last few years. Heck Deebo, 1085 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,919 Speaker 7: Sam Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, they're wide receivers. They're not Hall 1086 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 7: of Fame defensive ends that ended up not getting traded. 1087 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 7: This doesn't mean the end, and I think that's what 1088 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 7: Browns fans need to realize. It does not mean the end. 1089 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 7: It's it's not a positive development, but it does not 1090 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 7: mean the end. But yeah, a new contract and a 1091 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 7: way forward would certainly help he you know, he's going 1092 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 7: to say it's not about the money, it's about the winning. 1093 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 7: The contract's going to be wherever he ends up, he 1094 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 7: wants to win. So it's hard. How do you prove 1095 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 7: to a player that we're going to win next year. 1096 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's infinitely more hard when you have uncertainty a quarterback, right, 1097 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,479 Speaker 2: because there aren't there's not a free agent. This isn't 1098 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 2: somebody's not hitting the market, right, We're not this in 1099 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 2: the NBA. You're clearing cap space because Patrick Mahomes is 1100 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: going to be a free agent and that ain't happening. 1101 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 2: These guys don't become available, which is why when Watson 1102 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: became available, the Browns jumped on it because it was 1103 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: a guy who led the NFL in passing yardage, who 1104 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: went thirty three touchdown seven picks. It was a three 1105 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 2: time Pro bowler at the age of twenty five. And 1106 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 2: when somebody like that becomes available, even with the off 1107 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: field stuff that you knew that was there, you take it. 1108 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 2: And there were four teams that round on him at 1109 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: the end, but there were probably thirteen who made calls 1110 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: on Watson and wanted to know what do we got 1111 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 2: to do to get this guy? So that's not out there. 1112 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: So you do have one thing that is, and that's 1113 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: the number two pick in the draft. And Nathan's coined this. 1114 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 2: I think it's the best way to put it, either 1115 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 2: directly at number two or number two via a trade 1116 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 2: somewhere else has to bring back the quarterback solution. And 1117 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 2: this comes back to Miles as why doesn't it We 1118 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 2: don't know what is? 1119 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: Why is? We know what is? 1120 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he said to win the Super Bowl and 1121 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure he likes to be compensated per market value 1122 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 2: of his position. So those two things will please him. 1123 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: You can do one. I don't know how you do 1124 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: the other until you see what number two, what the 1125 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 2: return in is on number two, whether a pick directly 1126 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: or compensation for that pick. 1127 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 7: I truly believe why is to win. I'm gonna take 1128 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 7: it at face value there. I think he's made that clear 1129 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 7: over the last number of years. Whether you guys have 1130 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 7: the Fouler quote, he said it on the record plenty 1131 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 7: of times. His why is to win. He's gonna get 1132 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 7: paid wherever he goes, either the Browns are gonna write 1133 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 7: him a big track or the team that trades for 1134 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 7: him is going to write him a big check. He 1135 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 7: wants to win. Now, what's the best way to win. 1136 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 7: There's no Hey, we're going to trade you here and 1137 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 7: we guarantee you with Super Bowl and that just doesn't happen. 1138 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 5: He knows that. 1139 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 7: I think the Commanders are the perfect example of a 1140 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 7: team that went from four wins to one game from 1141 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl, that it can happen with any team. 1142 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 7: I also, you know, this is just me thinking out 1143 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 7: loud here. If this were a Caleb Jaden Daniels one 1144 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 7: two top of the draft, would he feel differently? That's 1145 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 7: what my question would be like. If this was a 1146 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 7: there is a blue ship answer at the top. Now, 1147 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 7: did people think Jayden Daniels was the blue chip answer 1148 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 7: for the commanders at two. No. No, people didn't think that. 1149 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 7: People thought it was really good. But remember there was 1150 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 7: a debate right up to draft day. Well do you 1151 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,720 Speaker 7: take Drake May? There isn't Drake May the better answer 1152 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 7: then Jaden Daniels. Drake May still, by the way, a 1153 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 7: very good answer. The Patriots got him and they're happy 1154 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 7: with them, and they should be sure. Right, I'm sure 1155 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 7: the Browns would take Drake May and this draft sitting 1156 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 7: there at number two, they'd be happy. They'd turn in 1157 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 7: the card right now. But you can turn it around 1158 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 7: if I if I would say to Miles, thought experiment, Miles, 1159 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 7: I'll give you Gino Smith, Kirk Cousins, let's go crazy. 1160 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 7: Let's say Aaron Rodgers, let let's go super crazy, and 1161 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford. But even if the Rams were to trade him, 1162 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 7: the Browns couldn't give him. He wants fifty million a 1163 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 7: year and they can't do that. So let's say I'll 1164 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 7: give you one of those guys. I will give you 1165 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 7: a dual Carter to play opposite you at two, and 1166 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 7: i'll give you Traveon Henderson at thirty three. Mm hmmm, 1167 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 7: and your new contract. What do you think? 1168 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we don't know, right right, I mean, 1169 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: and what is that? That's what we just gave the 1170 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 2: perfect What I would say is that doesn't. 1171 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 3: Win the Super Bowl? 1172 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 7: Okay, does it get. 1173 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe? 1174 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're in a division that has Lamar Burrow 1175 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh who never loses. So like Burrow went nine 1176 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 2: to eight with a triple Crown winner receiver, they don't. 1177 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 3: But he did get to a super Bowl. 1178 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 2: Like, he's been to a Super Bowl, He's been to 1179 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 2: an AFC Championship game like, so, like there's that level 1180 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 2: of thing that you're chasing. It's such a difficult question 1181 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 2: because in this league there's there are the teams who 1182 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 2: can can ten and then there are the teams. And 1183 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: you mentioned Ginosmith and it's kind of the perfect example 1184 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: because it's gino bakes like this in Tampa, Like you're 1185 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: good enough to get in the dance, but also you're 1186 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 2: good enough to get the door slammed in your face 1187 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: before you advance very far. There's a ceiling on it, right, 1188 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 2: So it's impossible for me to know what makes Miles 1189 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 2: tick most is what makes seem because the scenario you 1190 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 2: just played out richest defensive end all of that plus 1191 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: Gino and Travion. That's a return to competitiveness right away. 1192 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 2: That's contending in the postseason nine to eight, ten and 1193 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: seven something like that. Right away, you're right back in 1194 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 2: the mix. That's no closer though, in my opinion, to 1195 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: winning a Super Bowl than you are right now. 1196 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 7: Well i'd say you're closer because you're in the tournament, 1197 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 7: but I mean. 1198 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 3: You see my point. There's there's a ceiling. There's a 1199 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 3: ceiling on it. There's a really hard sitting a. 1200 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 7: Lot better than three and fourteen. No, no, no, I 1201 00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 7: totally understand. 1202 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 2: It's just like last make sure though with Joe like 1203 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 2: you were. That was an awesome run and everybody enjoyed 1204 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 2: it. It's the most fun that you've had as a Browns fan, 1205 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: probably since you know, bake against the Jets on a 1206 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: Thursday night. But there was also you're not beating Mahomes, 1207 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: you were not beating Bills, you weren't beating those type 1208 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: of teams with that approach. So that's the hard thing 1209 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 2: is and the reality is, landing the quarterback is the 1210 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: hardest thing to do in this league. It's so hard 1211 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 2: to land that guy. We know, if you don't have 1212 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 2: one of the elite ones. 1213 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 7: You're cooked, right and look, we don't need to replay 1214 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 7: the de Shaun thing. 1215 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 3: But that's yeah, that's why you that's why it happened. 1216 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 7: Guys say this every day. It's why swing a meth. 1217 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 4: I'll take it a step further. 1218 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 7: If if I'm not trying to rewrite history, don't, don't 1219 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 7: scream back at your radio at me right now. But 1220 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 7: if it had worked, forty six million right now is 1221 00:59:54,200 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 7: below market for the quarterback. Yeah, I know I'm trying 1222 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 7: to rewrite history here, but it's actually below market if 1223 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 7: the deal it worked. It didn't obviously we know that. 1224 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 2: No, and you there was no way. That's why you 1225 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 2: took the swing though, and that's why you're in this spot. 1226 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: We've been doing these positional reviews every day and at 1227 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 2: the end of every one, Zee and I will be like, Wow, 1228 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: it seems like we need a couple of guys in 1229 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: this room. We need a couple of guys in this room. 1230 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: We need a guy in this room who knows that 1231 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 2: ja okam, you need a guy in that room. We 1232 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: need a number two receiver, like you need another tackle 1233 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 2: you need It's like, Wow, there's all of a sudden, 1234 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that you kind of need 1235 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: to replenish this roster from all of the draft picks. 1236 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, you lost a lot of picks in the 1237 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Watson deal and so you're starting to feel the effect 1238 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 2: of that from a roster standpoint. So a critical offseason 1239 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: obviously for the organization, and this just adds one more 1240 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 2: wrinkle to it that, at least publicly, I'm sure they 1241 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: wish wasn't out there. 1242 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that's the key point here. And 1243 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,919 Speaker 7: I am curious as to the timeline, like when when 1244 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 7: Miles was on a hard knocks you know, when was 1245 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 7: that shot right and good? What was said? What? Yeah? 1246 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 7: What was said in the exit interview. I was sitting 1247 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 7: there with ab and Zach and Mary Kay and Kelsey 1248 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 7: Russo last week when when they did their thing uh 1249 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 7: in mobile. You know, it wasn't as if some Giants 1250 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 7: flag was you know, it wasn't wasn't like Baker at 1251 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 7: midfield planting a flag, right, It was just Yeah, the 1252 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 7: question was asked. I was like, no, we're kind of 1253 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 7: reiterating what was said on Monday. Don't go Monday after 1254 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 7: the season, not going to trade him? You actually hear 1255 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 7: me in the background, go not even for three. I 1256 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 7: was just kind of haunting the class because you know, 1257 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 7: Zach's like, not even for two, and I'm not even 1258 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 7: for three. I don't know, maybe didn't hear me. I 1259 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 7: think you had the music blasting in the background with 1260 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 7: the senior ball practice, were sitting in the stands. But 1261 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 7: you know, I know shefter brought up Khalil Max thing 1262 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 7: this morning. Last time I clew Max twenty seven. Eight 1263 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 7: Miles is twenty nine. If you go back and look 1264 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 7: at that trade, the Raiders had to give back a 1265 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 7: two in that trade. It was not a good trade 1266 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 7: for the Raiders. They got the two number ones, but 1267 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 7: they gave back a two. Like that's absurd. So I 1268 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 7: don't know that there is a precedent for this. 1269 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 3: No, No, there was none I could think of. 1270 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: I mean around here locally, I thought of Kyrie and 1271 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 2: that that kind of came out of nowhere for us. 1272 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 2: And then but people around the Cavs said, oh, yeah, 1273 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: we thought maybe. 1274 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 3: This was possible. That's that's kind of the last one. 1275 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, but like that happened every week. 1276 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 4: They know. 1277 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Kyrie's not Miles, No, he's he's not, and. 1278 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,439 Speaker 5: I don't. 1279 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 7: The crazy thing too about this first round is I'm 1280 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 7: trying to find the last time it happened. Everyone's got 1281 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 7: their pick. There's no team with two number ones this year, 1282 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 7: which is right right, All thirty two teams own their pick, 1283 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 7: so no one can. You can't look at it and go, well, 1284 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 7: the Dolphin's got two one. Nope, they don't. Everybody has 1285 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 7: their pick and that had I'm trying to have to 1286 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 7: figure out the last time that had happened. But it 1287 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 7: has been a while. Like in twenty three the Dolphins 1288 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 7: got Doctor pick for tampering with Brady, and then back 1289 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 7: maybe seven eight years ago, the Patriots got Doc to 1290 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 7: pick that was de ere Emmanuel Agbo went. Didn't he 1291 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 7: go thirty second overall where he would have been a 1292 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 7: first round pick, but he was actually a second round pick? 1293 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah something like that. Yeah. Yeah, So there's that rarity 1294 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 3: to it. 1295 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I you know, there's there's a couple of ways this 1296 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 2: this will This is a bunch of noise now and 1297 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 2: then tonight, you know, the Super Bowl teams are they've 1298 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 2: arrived in New Orleans and the NFL will turn its 1299 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 2: attention to Super Bowl Week. This will be a topic 1300 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: of conversation at Super Bowl week. My guess is from 1301 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 2: the organization that they would want this to quiet, at 1302 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: least publicly. And who knows for Miles's side where this 1303 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 2: goes from here, but it's now out there in the 1304 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 2: public record, and it's something you're gonna have to deal with, 1305 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 2: the reality is that there won't be anything one way 1306 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 2: or another on this, either new contract or any other 1307 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 2: thing if the organization goes against what ab has said 1308 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 2: that they're not moving off of him, and I'd have 1309 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: no indication that they would ever break stance on that. 1310 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 2: You got some time here, I mean, my god, buddy, 1311 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 2: it's February third. 1312 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're a month before the start of the new 1313 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 7: league here on the twelfth. You know what I would 1314 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 7: say is this while was out publicly. I can't imagine 1315 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 7: that people around the league are that surprised. Good gms 1316 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 7: pick up the phone and ask all the time. You know, 1317 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 7: I guarantee you the phone had rang in Borea last year. 1318 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 7: I guarantee you. At rank someone called to say, because 1319 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 7: that's what GM's are supposed to do, just like you 1320 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 7: and your fantasy team, right he yep, would you ever 1321 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 7: trade that guy. That's their job. That's what they do, right, 1322 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 7: So I guarantee you someone called, and I guarantee if 1323 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 7: someone was since the season. Now it's out publicly. You 1324 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 7: question what this does for leverage. You know, most GMS 1325 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 7: would tell you this hurts your leverage. I would say 1326 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 7: that he's the rare player who is still twenty nine, 1327 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 7: who is that good? Where it might draw up interest 1328 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 7: for the few gms or the other gms that hadn't 1329 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 7: contemplated making a call. Or what it does is it 1330 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 7: makes an owner tell the GM, hey, did you ever 1331 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 7: look into that? No, I don't know that I should. Well, 1332 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 7: I think you should right that kind of thing. Yeah, again, 1333 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 7: if they were to trade him, I don't want him traded. 1334 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 7: You know, I would love to see him in his 1335 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 7: career there as well. I like the guy. What's best 1336 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 7: for him both can be true. I want what's best 1337 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 7: for him, and as a fan and organizationally, I would 1338 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 7: love to see him stay. If that doesn't happen, it 1339 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 7: doesn't happen, but it's what I want. 1340 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: It's what I would vok for you continued, I'll get 1341 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 2: you outing on this. Continue to design in the Lovely 1342 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Southern California region. When you wake up Sunday, when do 1343 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: you become aware of the Luca trade? And how's it? 1344 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, with the time, with the time, So funny story. 1345 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 7: I was watching sitting on the couch and I was 1346 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 7: watching whatever college basketball game my good friend Sean Farnhum 1347 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 7: was calling. It was a college It was background noise. Honestly, 1348 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 7: I've been watching watching some show on Apple TV. I 1349 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 7: turned it obviously. He went to ESPN and and I'm 1350 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 7: sitting there looking at my laptop and I go to bed. 1351 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 7: She had I go to BIT and I hear the 1352 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 7: play by play guy say, all right about this, Luca 1353 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 7: Donheit just got traded to the Lakers. And Farnham goes, 1354 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 7: come on, that's not no, No, that didn't happen. That's 1355 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 7: what it says. Here details coming up on Sports Center 1356 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 7: after the game, and he shut up, No it didn't. No, 1357 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 7: he didn't. And then I open up Twitter and everybody 1358 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 7: had the same reaction like he got hacked, right, And yeah, 1359 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 7: So I stayed up for an hour and a half 1360 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 7: watching the coverage. I mean, it's just absurd, like the 1361 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 7: idea that you would trade. Look, I get it. This 1362 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 7: is them saying, hey, you're fat, we don't want to 1363 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 7: pay you, and we're moving on. But the idea that 1364 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 7: you would get ADS a heck of a player. ADS 1365 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 7: probably gonna end up in the Hall of Fame one day. 1366 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 7: But a D and one number one? 1367 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 3: What it's like. 1368 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 7: I can't think of an NFL analogy, but it would 1369 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 7: be kind of like saying, hey, we don't want to 1370 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,479 Speaker 7: give Josh Allen his third contract, which he probably gets 1371 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 7: this offseason. By the way, we don't want to give 1372 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 7: Josh Allen a third contract. So let's see, Matthew Stafford 1373 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 7: has won one championship like like like AD, he's into 1374 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 7: his thirties, he's probably played his best ball probably behind him, 1375 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 7: So we'll trade Josh Allen for A and one number one. 1376 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Josh Allen for Matthew Safford in one number one. 1377 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 7: No one I would ever do that deal. 1378 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 2: No, And it's even worse than that because number ones 1379 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 2: in football are almost worth more than the back half 1380 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 2: of ones in basketball. 1381 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,600 Speaker 3: So like it. Even that doesn't do it. 1382 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 7: Just like three years from now, Yeah. 1383 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty nine, when Lucas gonna have a great 1384 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 2: team around him in LA Like, big deal. 1385 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,759 Speaker 3: You're gonna be picking twenty seventh. 1386 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean who he rates for a twenty 1387 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 7: twenty nine first round. 1388 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 2: Pick, Buddy, They've done this and this is maybe why 1389 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean you think about it. Wilt, Kareem, Shaquiel gasol Lebron, 1390 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Kobe, Magic and Worthy. We're all draft pick 1391 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 2: compensation guys where they made trades to go pick in 1392 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 2: the draft. But they've done this for sixty years, Like 1393 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 2: this is just what they do. It's just crazy to me, 1394 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 2: like to do a deal like this and not open 1395 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 2: it up to the league and say, hey, what could 1396 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 2: you offer? The only thing I can think and I 1397 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 2: don't know if any I'm sure somebody who does the 1398 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 2: NBA all the time has said this, but like, the 1399 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 2: only I can think is like Lucas folks were like, 1400 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Now they say that they didn't know anything about this, 1401 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 2: but if Lucas people were like, we will only sign 1402 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 2: an extension with the Lakers, nobody else, and will let 1403 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: it be known to anybody else you trade us to 1404 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 2: that will only sign that extension with the Lakers. 1405 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 3: That's the only thing I can only scenario I can 1406 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 3: come up with. 1407 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 7: But bo, he lost one hundred million dollars, I know, 1408 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 7: because of the supermax rules and then go from Texas 1409 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 7: to California with state taxes. 1410 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:29,679 Speaker 3: Crazy. 1411 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 7: He lost nine figures in the deal. Yep, nine figures. 1412 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 2: It's funny when they kept saying like, oh, yeah, he's overweight, 1413 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, was he overweight last year when he 1414 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,799 Speaker 2: led him to the finals? 1415 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 3: Was he overweight then? 1416 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 2: Because that seemed to be fine, Like that seemed to 1417 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,719 Speaker 2: work out just fine for them, Like it's crazy. 1418 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always a laker. 1419 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, yeah, and he got to the finals and 1420 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 7: never attempted to play defense. But correct me if I'm wrong. 1421 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 7: He didn't play defense. He entell you anyway, no surprise. 1422 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 7: I loved how he was getting hammered in the finals 1423 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 7: playing defense. Have you watched all year? 1424 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 3: Right? 1425 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 4: What have you been? 1426 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 3: This is who he is not going to play defense. 1427 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 2: I don't have any point of reference on a twenty 1428 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,640 Speaker 2: five year old traded in the middle of the night 1429 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 2: is a top three player in the world. 1430 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Like that's it's crazy, absolutely crazy. 1431 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 7: I mean to the point that nobody in any sport 1432 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 7: thought the report was legitimate. 1433 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 3: No, no, not even a whisper of it. Appreciate you, buddy, 1434 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 3: as always. 1435 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 7: Likewise talk to you soon. 1436 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 6: All right. 1437 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 2: There is play by play voice Andrew Siciliana joining the 1438 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 2: program on the Twisted Tea Hotline presented by Twisty hardey Stee, 1439 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 2: official sponsor of Your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Hey, 1440 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 2: get your little ones involved in the dog Pound and 1441 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: join the Junior Browns Backers. 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This's being 1458 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily that hits pretty close to home. For perspective, 1459 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 2: we had out on the Twisted D Hard iced T Hotline, 1460 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,560 Speaker 2: official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns, Dan Grasi on a 1461 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 2: great friend of the program ESPN joining us Dan, How 1462 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 2: did this news hit you were? Did you sense there 1463 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: were rumblings of this? What was your reaction and when 1464 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 2: you first heard that this was coming. 1465 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 6: So I think, you know, it's tough to really have 1466 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 6: get a handle on like sort of what the player 1467 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,720 Speaker 6: is unhappy about if it's not the contract, right, So 1468 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 6: I don't think I did have a sense of this. 1469 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 6: I think there was a sense that maybe they would 1470 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 6: talk about a contract extension this offseason, even though there's 1471 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 6: two years left on the deal. And I don't think 1472 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 6: that there have been talks that have progressed to the 1473 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 6: point where you know one side or the other would 1474 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 6: feel exasperated. So I think we can take Miles at 1475 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 6: his word that the motivation for this is I'd like 1476 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 6: to go somewhere where it feels like they're closer to winning. 1477 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 6: And so no, I did not personally have I have 1478 01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 6: an inkling of it. It's it's a situation where where 1479 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 6: obviously everybody around the league is now paying attention. What 1480 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 6: will Cleveland do they continue to say they're not going 1481 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 6: to trade him. Is it possible to keep him there 1482 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 6: and make him happy in a way that that makes 1483 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 6: the request go away? I think that we've seen it. 1484 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 6: I mean, like, this isn't the NBA, where where you know, 1485 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,800 Speaker 6: oftentimes a trade request means a sure fire trade. 1486 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 1487 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 6: In the NFL, we've seen guys make trade requests and 1488 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 6: stay put and be happy and ended up getting contract extensions. 1489 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 6: So it can be done. But it really depends on 1490 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 6: how dug In Miles Garrett is. And you know, he's 1491 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 6: a he's a unique guy. And I don't say that 1492 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 6: in any kind of critical way. He just he's a 1493 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 6: guy that has, you know, some very I think definite 1494 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 6: ideas about how he wants things to be and if 1495 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 6: they're not right, I'm just not sure that there's an 1496 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 6: amount of money, you know, that solves that. 1497 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 2: Dan organizationally here, they've you know, made a pretty clear look. 1498 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 2: We're not I mean Andrew Burry on record at the 1499 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. Yeah, lock it in, We're not traded him. 1500 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Nothing happening here obviously. I'm assuming they had no interest 1501 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 2: in this being done publicly and from Miles side of it, 1502 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 2: And when you've seen players who have done this before, 1503 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 2: and we've seen this, you know, Debo, Brandon Ayuk, We've 1504 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 2: seen this from time to time, Aaron Rodgers. Where guys 1505 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 2: demand and then you kind of go back in on it. 1506 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 2: What's the next step? What are those next steps look like? 1507 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 2: Because as you mentioned, there's there's and we don't know 1508 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 2: what Miles y is. It's hard to get in his head. 1509 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if it's necessarily Maybe he 1510 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 2: wants to be twenty million guaranteed this year, twenty millions, 1511 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 2: what his number is this year? He's pribacely and it's 1512 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 2: really underpaid. So there's that part of it too. How 1513 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 2: do we mend all of this? 1514 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 6: So it depends on again, what he wants. If what 1515 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 6: he really really wants is to not be on the 1516 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 6: Browns anymore, right, regardless of money, then then there's a 1517 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 6: couple potential pressure points, right, there's the startup free agency, 1518 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 6: which is all over a month away now, when teams 1519 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 6: are kind of making their plans and their budgets. Like, 1520 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 6: teams will be pressing the Browns at that point say, hey, 1521 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 6: what's the deal You're gonna trade them? Are you gonna wait? 1522 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 6: Are you gonna hold on to him? You know? Is 1523 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 6: there is there something we can offer you that get 1524 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 6: you interested? Uh? And then if nothing happens, then then 1525 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 6: there's the draft at the end of April, when you 1526 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 6: know you're talking about if you're serious about trading him, 1527 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 6: you would rather do it before this year's draft because 1528 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 6: you know what the picks are that you're getting back 1529 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 6: right as opposed to if you wait till May or June, 1530 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 6: you're trading for twenty twenty six picks and you don't 1531 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 6: know what those are going to exactly be. You don't 1532 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 6: know where these teams that are trading for him are 1533 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 6: going to finish. Presumably if they have Miles Garrett, their 1534 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 6: picks would be lower than if they didn't, right, So yeah, 1535 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 6: I think it's I think those are the two pressure points. 1536 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 6: And then the other thing is like it's a tricky 1537 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 6: trade for the Browns to make because of the way 1538 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 6: his contract's been restructured so much the dead money that 1539 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 6: would accelerate on him. 1540 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 2: I think we lost down there and maybe maybe cut 1541 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 2: it out on Dan there as he was going. 1542 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 6: To a player as a post June first. 1543 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 3: I think we have Dan back. We got you, but 1544 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 3: we dropped for a second. Buddy. I'm not sure Dan. 1545 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 6: When it cut off. 1546 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 3: You're right, You're good, buddy, you were. 1547 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,679 Speaker 2: You were talking about how the complication of the trade 1548 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 2: would be if they were able to entertain it's something. 1549 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 2: To this point they've said they're not willing to do right. 1550 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 6: They'd have to take on thirty six million in dead 1551 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 6: money this year and this year's cap. You can't do like, 1552 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 6: you know how they do a post June first cut 1553 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 6: where they cut the guy in March and designated him 1554 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 6: a post June first cut, and they can spread the 1555 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 6: cap head out over two years. You can't do that 1556 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 6: with a trade. You have to actually wait till after 1557 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 6: June first to make the trade. If you're going to 1558 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 6: do that, and by that point, like we were talking about, 1559 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 6: you you're dealing for pix that you don't know exactly 1560 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,640 Speaker 6: what they're going to be. So I think this is 1561 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 6: a matter of if you get through free agency in 1562 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 6: the draft and no trade has happened, then you circle 1563 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 6: back team and player and figure out, Okay, there's something 1564 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 6: we can do here to keep make you happy and 1565 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 6: keep you here. And if not, then you're talking about 1566 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 6: a training camp holdout situation. 1567 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dan, the one thing that I think we 1568 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 2: all would agree would be a kind of a panacea 1569 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 2: for all of this is if you were to have 1570 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: that franchise quarterback. Now they picked number two in this draft. 1571 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 2: You've heard a lot of people say this is not 1572 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 2: the strongest draft. Okay, I'll take them at their word, 1573 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 2: but you're gonna get a chance to get a signal 1574 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 2: caller at two if you want. There's not a whole 1575 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 2: lot out there in terms of free agency or via trade. 1576 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 3: They never are. 1577 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are hard to come by, which 1578 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 2: is how the Watson deal happened to begin with. Is 1579 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,679 Speaker 2: you get an elite talent in the prime of his career. 1580 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,480 Speaker 2: That's how that bidding war happened. What path at quarterback 1581 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 2: can they take? What are you hearing in terms of 1582 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 2: trying to make that a little bit more of a 1583 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 2: situation that would be more likable for a guy like 1584 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 2: Miles if it is indeed about winning a Super Bowl 1585 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 2: as his priority. 1586 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 6: Right, So, then you have a situation where you sit 1587 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 6: with him and you say, here's our plan for the offseason. 1588 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 6: Here's how we think it'll make us competitive in a 1589 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 6: short period of time. Maybe not twenty twenty five, but 1590 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,719 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. You could see this plan coming together 1591 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 6: and it'll work, and then you have to try and 1592 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 6: sell him on that. Right, So quarterback is essential, and 1593 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 6: the Browns, as you know, we're in a very tricky 1594 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 6: situation with regard to quarterback, considering the guaranteed money he's 1595 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 6: still left on Dashaul Watson's contract and the mystery around 1596 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,799 Speaker 6: when you're ever gonna. 1597 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 10: See him again. 1598 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 6: So do you do you draft a guy at two 1599 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 6: that you believe in it and you feel like it's 1600 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 6: going to be a franchise guy for the long term. 1601 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 6: Do you d do you draft the Penn State edge 1602 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 6: rusher at two and then trade Miles? Right now, you've 1603 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 6: replaced at edge rusher on a rookie contract, right, So 1604 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 6: there's a couple. But if you're talking about trying to 1605 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 6: keep him happy, it probably involves a significant contract extension 1606 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 6: that makes him the highest paid defensive player and keeps 1607 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 6: him there probably for the rest of his career, and 1608 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 6: you know, selling him on here's how we're going to 1609 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 6: make sure that we that we get competitive in a 1610 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 6: short period of time. I just you know, he's been 1611 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 6: there eight years. There haven't been many good ones, right, 1612 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 6: So like it seems like it might be a tough 1613 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,719 Speaker 6: sell for someone who's experienced, you know, all he's experienced there. 1614 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, talking to the great Dan Graziano ESPN. Obviously at a 1615 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 2: Super Bowl week as well, and that is that will 1616 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 2: be the headlines around the league starting into this afternoon 1617 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,440 Speaker 2: and the rest of the week. Just from a league perspective, 1618 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,639 Speaker 2: this Kansas City opportunity here, Dan, No one's done this, 1619 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 2: this three in a row thing. It's hard to wrap 1620 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,599 Speaker 2: your head around seven straight AFC championships and now going 1621 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 2: for playing in seven straight AFC Championship games and then 1622 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 2: also now going for that third straight Super Bowl. Just 1623 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 2: from a historical perspective, obviously, we've never seen anything like it. 1624 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,760 Speaker 2: What will will that be the overwhelming story this week 1625 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 2: down in New Orleans? 1626 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 6: Oh? I think so? I mean, look, the Eagles are 1627 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,879 Speaker 6: they have their storylines and you know, everybody's watching. Saquon 1628 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 6: Barkley's a guy you know, people pay a lot of 1629 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 6: attention to, and I think, you know, hit him his 1630 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 6: opportunity to go for the super Bowl and the Eagles 1631 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 6: opportunity to get another shot at the chief after losing 1632 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 6: to them two years ago in a close one. But yeah, 1633 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 6: I think the dominant storyline is the Chiefs do something 1634 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 6: that's never been done anytime. It's an opportunity for something 1635 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 6: that's never happened before, right right, Like that's that is, 1636 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 6: that's front and center, and it will be. I mean, 1637 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 6: there's never been a team that won two in a 1638 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 6: row and even got back to the super Bowl the 1639 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 6: next year, So they've already done something put themselves in 1640 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 6: a position that no one else has ever been in. 1641 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean it's obviously, you know around the league, 1642 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 6: right whatever, I mean, you can hear you know, you 1643 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 6: can hear whatever. You can hear admiration, you can hear grousing, 1644 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 6: you can hear it. But I mean the fact of 1645 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 6: the matter is that they're in a zone that's one 1646 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 6: of the all time runs in sports history, and can 1647 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 6: they cash it in with a third straight? Obviously is 1648 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 6: the dominant storyline the Eagles. I think a lot of 1649 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 6: people would tell you have a better roster, but they 1650 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 6: would have said the same thing about the forty nine 1651 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 6: ers last year, and the Chiefs just sort of find 1652 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 6: a way. So can they do it again? And if so, 1653 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 6: where do we now talk about Andy Reid and Patrick 1654 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 6: Mahomes and the all time pantheon of the people that 1655 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 6: have done what they do. 1656 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that little thing with the Mahomes Brady thing 1657 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,479 Speaker 2: right where like, who knows if you'll ever get to seven, 1658 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 2: but to do something that Brady hasn't done, it's kind 1659 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 2: of the Lebron Michael thing, like winning with multiple teams 1660 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 2: versus winning with one, like it's the that's something that 1661 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 2: kind of can change that conversation a little bit if 1662 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 2: he gets three in a row. 1663 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 3: So incredible. Gonna be a fun week down there, Dan. 1664 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 2: Hope to see you at the combine, buddy, and good 1665 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:22,599 Speaker 2: luckdown in New Orleans. 1666 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 6: Maybe by the time we see it the Combine, we'll 1667 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 6: have a little more sense of where this mild Garrett 1668 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 6: thing is said it. 1669 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,560 Speaker 3: Hopefully certainly, Yeah, certainly could thanks buddy, Take care guys, 1670 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 3: all right there. 1671 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,320 Speaker 2: He is the great Dan Graziano joining us on the 1672 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline presented by Twisted t hard Iced Tea, 1673 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 2: official sponsor of Your Cleveland Browns. We'll reflect on all 1674 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,759 Speaker 2: of this, go over some of the other big sports 1675 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 2: stories of the day, but obviously today is dominated by 1676 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 2: the trade request from Miles Garrett. You're listen to Cleveland 1677 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Browns Daily. 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The news broke 1687 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 2: around eleven o'clock the statement for Miles Garrett requesting a 1688 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: trade from the Cleveland Browns. The requesting is the kind 1689 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 2: of the thing to circle there from the standpoint of 1690 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 2: he's still under contract for two more years. Correct, there 1691 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 2: is a contract extension that I'm sure he would like signed, 1692 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 2: and much of the reporting done today if he were 1693 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 2: to be traded would result in not only a trade, 1694 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 2: but then a new contract extension with that new team. 1695 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 2: We know that the Cleveland Browns is an organization have 1696 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 2: said not happening. Put it on the record. We're not 1697 01:22:59,439 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 2: trading him. 1698 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1699 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 2: There's no you call straight to voicemail. It's kind of 1700 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,720 Speaker 2: the situation that Andrew Berry described. So that's kind of 1701 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 2: the standstill of this. We've also seen a bunch of 1702 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,680 Speaker 2: reporting from Schefter and Breer and Russini about that the 1703 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 2: organization knew about this request and has for a while, 1704 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 2: and so for them this isn't much of a surprise. 1705 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 2: It damn sure is a surprise to us that it 1706 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 2: was made today, I can tell you that. And so 1707 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 2: that's where it is now. And so the question, because 1708 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 2: there's really a couple of pass if if you are 1709 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 2: to hold firm and say we're not trading him, and 1710 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 2: no reason believe that they wouldn't. If that is the case, 1711 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,400 Speaker 2: then the number one thing you have to do is 1712 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 2: men fences with Miles through his representation to get that 1713 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,759 Speaker 2: all back locked in that is that a contract extension? 1714 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 2: Is that proof of plan is that, hey, this is 1715 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,679 Speaker 2: what we're going to do. This is something that happens 1716 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 2: in the NBA all the time. It rarely, if ever, 1717 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 2: happens in the NFL where you have kind of like, hey, 1718 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 2: this is our plan. We were led to believe that 1719 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,680 Speaker 2: there would be some of that that took place at 1720 01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 2: the end of the season. 1721 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 3: Who knows. 1722 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 2: As I pressed Dan Graziano on this, and Andrew and 1723 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 2: I talked about this as well, like, really, the quarterback 1724 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,560 Speaker 2: is kind of the jumping off point, is what is 1725 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 2: the plan at that position? What we know is, yes, 1726 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson has two more years under his contract. We 1727 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 2: know that he had a second achilles injury that happened 1728 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 2: at the end of the season. We know that the 1729 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 2: timetable on that is a year at least. 1730 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:25,719 Speaker 3: It is very. 1731 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 2: Unlikely that he plays for the Cleveland Browns next season, 1732 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 2: just based on the physical limitations of that injury. So 1733 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 2: you're going to have an entirely new quarterback room. I mean, 1734 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 2: dtr could be back there, but at least two more 1735 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 2: faces maybe three going into next season. So what does 1736 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 2: that look like? Is it a band aid? Is it 1737 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 2: a band aid and the number two pick is it 1738 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 2: a band aid and we'll deal with the long term 1739 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 2: down the road. Those are all questions that need to 1740 01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 2: be kind of fleshed out. And the reality is, while 1741 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 2: they're doing the due diligence on all of that stuff, 1742 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 2: if it's a quarterback at number two, that's not until 1743 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 2: the end of April. It's a quarterback via trade, that 1744 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 2: can't be as if I understand the way Dan pointed it, 1745 01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 2: January or June first designation was kind of the thinking 1746 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,799 Speaker 2: on that. And then free agency there just isn't anything 1747 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 2: out there. I mean, you can't be in the Sam 1748 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 2: Darnold business because of what he's going to demand on 1749 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 2: the market and you don't have that type of cap flexibility. 1750 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 2: So in terms of proving your planet quarterback, that can't 1751 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 2: happen right away. 1752 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's there's lots of options and we're going 1753 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 5: to talk through them all for the next twelve plus 1754 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,720 Speaker 5: weeks until we get through the draft. Free agency will come. 1755 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 5: Before that, free agency will start. The tampering period can 1756 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 5: start March tenth, I believe, ten through twelfth, yeah, okay, 1757 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 5: and then on the twelfth you can start signing guys. 1758 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,839 Speaker 5: I mean you could agree in theory or in principle 1759 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 5: to trades, but nothing can go through. Yeah right away. 1760 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 5: So there's a lot on the table. But can they 1761 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 5: write the ship here, get everybody on the same page, 1762 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 5: and can they do it behind closed doors? Yeah, because 1763 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 5: it sounds like you neither side just wants to move 1764 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 5: right now. That doesn't mean that they can't move, but 1765 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 5: right now, you know they've dug put the flag in 1766 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 5: the sand, and this is where we're marking it. 1767 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 2: We've had in recent years, you know, deebo Ayuk Rogers, 1768 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 2: We've had a lot of guys to demand chief, Yeah, 1769 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 2: that have demanded those things or requested this is a request, 1770 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 2: not a demand, so that semantics, but there's I think 1771 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 2: a little bit of difference in tone. So we've had 1772 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,719 Speaker 2: plenty of those where a request has made, a demand 1773 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,479 Speaker 2: has been made, and then you're able to pull back 1774 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 2: and go actually we can find common ground here. Usually 1775 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 2: that common ground is in the way of extra funds. 1776 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 2: But this is the part we don't know, and you 1777 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 2: got to get in miles head to wrap your head 1778 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,759 Speaker 2: around that. We don't know what the number one driver 1779 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 2: for him is. I don't know what The number one 1780 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 2: driver is I want to be the highest paid defensive 1781 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 2: player non quarterback in the game. I want to be 1782 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,640 Speaker 2: higher than Justin Jefferson. If I don't get that, I'm not. 1783 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't have any idea. I mean, we're trying to 1784 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 2: guess what's inside someone's head or is it his word 1785 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 2: that in a statement that he wants to go win 1786 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 2: super bowls? Because we are ways away from that as 1787 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 2: currently constructed. Now, if number two elicits you a player 1788 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 2: like Jayden Daniels, then you're right back. I mean, look 1789 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 2: at Washington, they are right back. They landed on that kid, 1790 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,559 Speaker 2: and he lived up to potential, and away we go. 1791 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 2: And I always bristle when we talk about how nobody 1792 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 2: thinks these quarterbacks are have elite traits. In all of 1793 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 2: that nonsense, I don't believe that the idea that people 1794 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,599 Speaker 2: can have that conclusion made right now. Nobody thought Jayden 1795 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 2: Daniel would be Jaden Daniels a year ago. 1796 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,559 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we lived it. 1797 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 2: We were over there, we had we didn't have a pick, 1798 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,639 Speaker 2: but we still had the quarterback conversations. We had them 1799 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 2: with everybody who joined us. What do you make of 1800 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,200 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks at this draft Caleb, everybody else, big deep drop, 1801 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 2: then Jaden and Drake May. It wasn't like he was 1802 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 2: in conversation with Caleb. So like no one was right 1803 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 2: about those guys. Some people liked him more than others. 1804 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 2: You got a long time to figure this out. I 1805 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 2: don't I think cam Ward's got elite traits. I know 1806 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,799 Speaker 2: Shodor Sanders has elite traits. Toughness, accuracy, those are elite traits. 1807 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,720 Speaker 2: So you can flip it quick, and really that two 1808 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 2: pick is the only way to truly flip it y. Yes, 1809 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 2: everything else is a band aid. 1810 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 5: Yes, but this is why the NFL does everything they 1811 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 5: can do ensure that the teams at the bottom can 1812 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 5: get good quick. 1813 01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's all. 1814 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 5: About the parody. It's all about it's all about setting 1815 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 5: up everybody for success. And this is how you do it. 1816 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 5: But you got to hit on the pick, and you 1817 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 5: got to make the right pick at number two. Yeah, 1818 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 5: and what comes of that we'll be fascinating to watch. 1819 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 5: But I agree with you, I mean, don't you can't 1820 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 5: tell me that there aren't quarterbacks worth worth drafting here. 1821 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 5: And whether it's go get one at number two, go 1822 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 5: get one on day two or day three. 1823 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 2: Take two of them. Yep, yeah, sort it out completely. 1824 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 2: That figured out the rest of it. Yeah, yeah, you 1825 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,759 Speaker 2: got to get that part figured out. The next step 1826 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 2: in this I think will be a return to normalcy 1827 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 2: this week in the league. I think you're gonna get 1828 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 2: The teams have arrived. I know they were there Sunday. 1829 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 2: So I think tonight is like the press night or whatever. 1830 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the first of two, I believe. 1831 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 3: So which one's the circus? Is that tonight or tomorrow? 1832 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 5: I think they both might be. I think tonight starts 1833 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 5: at I think tonight is the night. 1834 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:21,679 Speaker 3: Okay, tonight is the circus. 1835 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 5: I think the quarterbacks will talk and you know, we'll 1836 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,600 Speaker 5: see what all that becomes. I mean, you've been in 1837 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 5: those Oh they've only gotten bigger from a circus stamp. 1838 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 2: There was a guy from LA Radio who was a 1839 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,840 Speaker 2: dressed as a Viking, names Vic the Brick was dressed 1840 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:45,679 Speaker 2: as a Viking. I remember Inez says TVs Techa quite well. 1841 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:50,920 Speaker 2: I remember another TV as Techa reporter showing up with. 1842 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 3: A binkie. 1843 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,799 Speaker 2: There was another one who legitimately proposed to Tom Brady 1844 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 2: in a wedding dress. That happened. I was at one 1845 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 2: of those. I was at one in Indy where Russell 1846 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 2: Wilson's now wife Sierra was walking around and was such 1847 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 2: a stunningly beautiful it didn't even seem like a normal 1848 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,560 Speaker 2: human being, like it felt like she was like Ai generated. 1849 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 2: And then two minutes later, Giselle Buchen was walking around 1850 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 2: and you went, well, there's another one. Where do these 1851 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,800 Speaker 2: creatures that? Where do they come from? 1852 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 3: Like this? It was nuts, absolutely nuts. 1853 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 6: No. 1854 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,840 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Media Day is a barrel of lapse. It's 1855 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,719 Speaker 2: a lot of fun, it's not utter nonsense. 1856 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,920 Speaker 5: Correct. Tomorrow, the Great Bubba Ventrone will join us in you. 1857 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 2: Get a little Senior Bowl reacts and see what he 1858 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 2: saw firsthand down there. He was kind of the star 1859 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 2: of it with all of his MC work he did. 1860 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,400 Speaker 5: He was a nice little ending to that game as well. 1861 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 5: That's a little sentimental. And then we still we got 1862 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 5: to get to everything that happened in the world of sports. 1863 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Crazy weekend, absolutely crazy weekend. Today just added to it all. Right, 1864 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 2: there you go, kids, the next level is coming up next. 1865 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, everybody. Cleveland Browns Daily presented by beally Bet, 1866 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,439 Speaker 2: official sportspinning partner near Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1867 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1868 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland