1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Hey, Bessie's Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're popping off on the 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: biggest pop culture moments of the week with pop culture 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: anthropologist and friend of the Pod Blake Lee Thornton. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: Yes, he's giving us an all access pass to this 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: week's Wicked movie premiere. We're talking about the reveal of 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: People's Sexiest Man Alive twenty twenty four, and we're answering 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: an age old question, is it ever okay to get 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: back with your ex It's Friday, November fifteenth. I'm Simone Voice. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Danielle, it's Friday. How is your hippocampus today? Ooh, it 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: is fluffier than ever. Every time I work out now, 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: I always think about that interview that you did with 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: doctor Wendy Suzuki on the brain boosting benefits of exercise. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just think of our brains taking a 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: bubble bath, like we got to get up and get 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: move in. Which conversation stoock out to you this week? 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, I always loved chatting with Emily Oster. She's one 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: of the most knowledgeable voices in the parenting space, and 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: I know that her research has given me and a 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: lot of parents out there are so much confidence in 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: our parenting decisions. 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: I've also been thinking about our chat with Professor maury 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Ta Harripoor about negotiation. I really really appreciate her advice 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: and her ethos about just bringing your whole self to 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: the table. 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Yes, which reminds me of another guest that we had 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: on who knows a lot about negotiation, Mary Bonnet from 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Selling Sunset. We had so much fun with her. I 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: just loved hearing about the behind the scenes of the show, 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: and also I was just so moved by her optimism, 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: like she has been through a lot and she still 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: is so positive and bright. And today we're getting an 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: inside look behind the curtain of Hollywood with our guest 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: blakely Thornton. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Yep, he was at the Wicked premiere this week, so 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear all the behind the scenes 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: of that and of course pop off with him. He 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: has all the opinions. But before we do, it's time 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: to spotlight our favorite moment of the week. So we 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: all know Harriet Tubman as an iconic figure in American history, 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: and now, as of this week, she is officially a 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: general as well. Harriet Tubman was born into slavery in Maryland, 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: and then this week was posthumously awarded the rank in 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: the state's National Guard during a Veteran's Day ceremony. So 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: Governor Wes Moore, who led the ceremony, called it a 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: proud moment for the US, saying, today we celebrate a 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: soldier and a person who earned the title a veteran. 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: Tubman is synonymous with the underground railroad, which she used 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: to escape slavery in her twenties and later led dozens 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: of enslaved people to freedom. But what's less known is 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: her work as a nurse, a spy, and scout for 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: the Union Army during the Civil War. She even led 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: an expedition of more than one hundred and fifty soldiers 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: to plantations in South Carolina, making her the first woman 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: in US history to do so. That mission, by the way, Freedom, 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: estimated seven h hundred and fifty enslaved. 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: People at the time. 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: She was given the nickname General Tubman, So this honor 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: is more than deserved and long overdue. 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Amen to that all right, Danielle, be ready to pop off. 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Blake Lee, welcome back to the bright Side. 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. We've missed you and I've 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: missed you guys too. We went in a little you know, 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: European adventure together. I know buch words, but it's good 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: to be back officially in an official capacity. 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Yes, and we have so much to talk about. You're 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: such a big deal. You were named one about Magazine's 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: one hundred disruptors. 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: Oh thank you. 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: You also are an actor too. You start in a 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: new out TV series called Offshoot. You have a podcast 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: launching next year called Immediately No, which has been a 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: long time in the works. 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: Yes, it has. 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Yes, which one of these means the most to you? 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like picking your favorite child. I mean, 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: I think all of them. 81 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: I love being creative in any capacity, whether it's like 82 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: acting or express seeing myself in like long form conversations 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: like this, or even a little bit of like writing 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: and production and hosting that's coming up. 85 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Like. 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: I just think being able to express an authentic version 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: of myself through creative outlets, no matter what they may be, 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: is what brings me joy. 89 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Hell Yeah, Blakely, I feel like you work really hard 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: on your content. I can tell how high value it is. 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: You've been kind of like known to do rolling the 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: credits at the end. 93 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: Is that what you would call it? 94 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: Yes? Roll credit, roll credits? Yes? 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: How did you think of that? Originally? 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: It originally came to me because I always like music 97 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: is a big part of what I do. Like if 98 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: you look at my stories, it's kind of like an 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: everyday playlist of what's going on in my mood. And 100 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: I always thought like I'm injecting kind of seven different 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: aspects of culture when I'm talking to be humorous, Like 102 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: there's little stories that are playing or puns or Easter eggs, 103 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: And I feel like the credits is a way to 104 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: punctuate a joke that I say, or also to make 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: it feel like programmatic content, because I feel like everybody 106 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: when you watch a TV show, when you watch a movie, 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: when the credit sholder're like, okay, the end, it's like 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: period if. 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: You're in the middle, end exactly. 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: So I feel like it's a way to like make 111 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: my stuff feel programmatic in a way that like draws 112 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: people back for it. 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Were you a big TV watcher growing up. 114 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, TGIF, Saturday Morning cartoons, movies that 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: I wasn't supposed to, Nickelodeon, Nicked Night, all the things, 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: like I was probably the only seven year old watching 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: like Dobie Gillis and Patty Duke and like the Dick 118 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: Van Dyke Show. 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: So like, well, you know what, I was right there 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: with you. 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: How about theater No, not even a little bit. I'm 122 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: not a theater gay. 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: Wait, so we have to you went to the Wicked premiere, 124 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: So what do you mean you're not a theater person. 125 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean that has been one of the most interesting 126 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: points of like my friendship with Cynthia Arriva. We are 127 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: now friends. We've traveled to France together. I've seen a 128 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: couple of her premieres, and I was just like, it's 129 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: actually beautiful to be seeing this for the first time 130 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: through you doing it. I have never heard a note 131 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: of that musical on purpose. I did not know the plot, 132 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: so I walked in completely blind seeing it. And I've 133 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: seen it twice. I've seen it before and after the election. 134 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: It hits both times. There's nuance and charm. But I 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: can say, as somebody who again is not a musical 136 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: fan in general, not a theater fan in general. I 137 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: cried four times at the screening. I cried three times 138 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: at the premiere. It is just it is guttural, visceral, 139 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: full of levels, and just like it's a true for 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: quadrant for the whole family with meaning film, like it's 141 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: one of my top five films of the year. I 142 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: left Cynthia like a drunken voice note. I was like, 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: you did it, bitch, this is amazing. And then I 144 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: literally did the same thing. I was like, my apartment 145 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: did the same thing. For Ariana Grande, I was. 146 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: Like, you're a little Lucille ball. You never changed, keep 147 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: taking risks. And then she responded, which was hilarious. 148 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: She's like super sweet, so it was nice when I 149 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: when I saw her at the premiere, I was like, Hi, 150 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: I'm Cynthia's insane friend, Like, but you are amazing. 151 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: That's funny. Okay, how about the fashion at the premiere? 152 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: Ooh, I mean they've all been eating. 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: And I think because of like my fashion commentary, which 154 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: started out as satire and has now become kind of 155 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: a real thing. I know all of their stylists, so 156 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: like I've talked to Jason Bolton about what Cynthia's doing. 157 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: We talked about it in Paris. 158 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: I was weirdly at this at the Louis Vauitton show 159 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: watching her and Jason like clock looks and like that's 160 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: good for this, this is good for that. To like 161 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: seeing that in real time was crazy. And then like 162 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: I talked to Jonathan Bailey's stylist a lot, and that's 163 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: actually how I ended up meeting him at the premiere. 164 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: She was like, oh my god, we love your videos. 165 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: Jonathan thinks so so funny. Do you want to meet him? 166 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: And I was like, uh duh, yes, please like drag 167 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: me through glass wherever it is. But I think they've been. 168 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: There's all these little references like the Tom Brown I 169 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: believe that she wore to the Mexico City premiere with 170 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: like the hands coming out of it. That was it 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: mirrored the shadow of the original mak and Witch, or 172 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: like how Jonathan Bailey's La Premieer outfit like mirror Dorothy's 173 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: red slippers and the tin man and all that. So 174 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: it was just they're they're giving us levels and I 175 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: love that the effort is there and I'm loving it. 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Who doesn't love a theme? Yea, this is just theme 177 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: dressing at the past level. 178 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask about this, but now I'm even 179 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: more curious knowing that you're friends with Cynthia Rivo. She 180 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: and Ariana Grande are doing tons of press for the movie, 181 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: and they're crying in almost every interview, and it's become 182 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: like a thing on the internet. 183 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: M M. 184 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: What do you think it is about where they are 185 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: or what happened during filming that they're so like they're 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: They're so open and so cracked open. 187 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: It seems. 188 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: I think their bond is incredibly special and like intimate, 189 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: and I think, like to go where they went with 190 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: these characters, it takes such an innate trust. Like I 191 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: was so surprised, like the performance is have the actresses 192 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: have to mirror the bond of these two women in 193 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: these two characters, and like when Arianna liked the things 194 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: she does with her physical comedy, I literally was like, girl, 195 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: you've been waiting to do this since Nickelodeon, and you 196 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: needed someone who understood you and got you and understood 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: the art and craft of like filmmaking to break you 198 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: open into a new level. I was like, I didn't 199 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: know you were a little lucial Ball. I didn't know you. 200 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know that was there because I've known you 201 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: as a pop star. But I was like, you have 202 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: your seminal film. You should be free at this age 203 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: to take all the creative risks you want because you've 204 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: done the thing. 205 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: When you say Lucille Ball, do you mean she's funny? 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: She's so her physical comedy, the thing she does, and 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: her flourish and physical choices throughout, like like cracking up, 208 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: cracking up, cracking up like a full audience, like a 209 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: hair flip, a flopping on a bed in front of 210 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: a word, like her comedic timing. 211 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: It's Oscar worthy. 212 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: And you have to have a partner that sits there 213 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: and understands and can play the straight man and knows 214 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: she's gonna like blow you away. 215 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: With like her eyes or a tear. 216 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: And you have to know each other so intensely, and 217 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: I think the process of filming crack them open to 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: each other because they're demographically so different. Cynthia is like, 219 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, gonna Egot. She's a theater actress with a 220 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: capital A like, so respected within the industry, and Ariana 221 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: comes with like a hardcore day following pop star. You 222 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: might not know she's even capable of the things she 223 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: does in this film. And I think in creating this film, 224 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: they found new parts of themselves and their relationship is 225 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: so real and I think they're going to be friends 226 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: for life. And I think when you're reminded of that 227 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: are doing this with a friend, it kind of makes 228 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: you cry. So and as someone who's like genuinely allergic 229 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: to earnestness, like I like feel it with them when 230 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: it's genuine. So you know, yeah, they're crying, but I mean, 231 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: like they mean it, I'm here for it, and I'm 232 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: so here for the tears. 233 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I think. I think celebrity culture in America has become 234 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: very like stoic and like they don't really a lot 235 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: of times when you're doing press, you feel like you're 236 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: speaking to a shell of a human you know, like 237 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: this artificial front. And what I love about this, Yes, 238 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: they're crying and practically every interview, but they're releasing it 239 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: and they're letting it out and they're showing their humanity 240 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: through it. And I actually think that their ability to 241 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: conjure up emotion so quickly and so viscerally lends to 242 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: their abilities as performers too. It allows this like free 243 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: flow of emotion to come from them. And I saw 244 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: that when I saw Cynthia Rivo on Broadway in the 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: color Purple, the best performance I've ever seen in live theater. 246 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: She just completely brought the house down and had everyone emotional. 247 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: And I just think it's clear that these are two 248 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: actors who have this ability to be in touch with 249 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: their emotionality, which I think is really beautiful. 250 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: And also like the interviewers are crying too, Like obviously 251 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: because they're the famous people in it, Like people are 252 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: cutting those and making memes of those, but like if 253 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: you're watching it, like the interviewers are, like I saw 254 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: this film, my daughter cried. Or I saw this film 255 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: and it made me think about myself. Or I saw 256 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: the film and I'm neuro divergent and it made me 257 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: feel seen, And like that's what you do it for. 258 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: Like I'm getting a little bit emotional thinking about but 259 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: like that's actually the point of art is to make 260 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: someone see themselves, to make someone understand or feel less 261 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: alone in the world, or see some kind of value 262 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: in their personal journey in a positive way. And this 263 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: film really does that, like it really, really truly and 264 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying that is again like a cynical bitchy, not 265 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: musical theater gay. I don't like musical theater energy. I 266 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: generally don't like musical theater people, but I was just like, 267 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: this is amazing. 268 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: I think you might be becoming a musical theater gay 269 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: from the likes of this segment. I think you're well 270 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: on you. You know, we're going to take a quick 271 00:12:48,120 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: break from popping off, but we'll be right back and 272 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: we're back to popping off with Blake Lee Thornton. Okay, 273 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: next up the topic that we must discuss. People this 274 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: week announced their Sexiest Man Alive for twenty twenty four. 275 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: This year, the honor goes to John Krasinski. 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: Sure, I know. 277 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: People have thoughts about this. I'm curious to hear what 278 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: you think, Blakely. I know that you thought that Glenn 279 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: Powell was gonna walk home with this. 280 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: I did because Glenn Powell is in here to be 281 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: the next Matthew McConaughey's last Tom Cruise. And this is 282 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: a part that's a feather in your cap. You need 283 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: is sexiest Man Alive because they've all done it. 284 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Do you ever think so, though? Does it really matter anymore. 285 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: I mean in a true Internet age, no, but like 286 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: who doesn't want it? 287 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 4: Like who doesn't want that? 288 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: And honestly, he dropped those pictures from Vanity Fair, the 289 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: Hollywood Issue, and I was like, y'all we're talking all 290 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: that mess about Glenn Pale. Then he freed that nipple 291 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: and everybody's life was changed in that sea through Gucci shirt. 292 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: But we're going back to John Krazinski, perfectly affable man. 293 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: When you say, like f Mary kill, He's always survived 294 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: with me, but it's always been Mary. So when we're 295 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: talking sexy, which I think about as sex, he's not 296 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: top fifty for me. But in a country where I 297 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: think we were looking for emotional stability, someone who will 298 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 3: drive a Volvo Hybrid and have a four oh one 299 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: K and treat you right and like make breakfast in 300 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: the morning and like, you know, rub your feet. That's 301 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: also sexy. It's not the act of sex. So I 302 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: think I think, like, yes, like, let's not poo poo 303 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: on John Krazenski. You know, he's not my demo. Other 304 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: other people I would have picked before I would have 305 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: picked Pedro Pascal, I would have picked a Jonathan Baile 306 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: I would have picked a Glen you know, maybe even 307 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: a Paul Mascal over him. But I get it People Magazine. 308 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: I have been so curious about the process behind this decision, like, 309 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: how does People Magazine select who the sexiest man alive 310 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: is going to be? Especially with this choice, because I 311 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: actually I love this choice. I love John Krasinski, but 312 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: it does feel odd for this year because it's not 313 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: like he's, you know, particularly in Zeitgeist that much this year. 314 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: So apparently an editor from People did an interview with 315 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: USA today and they kind of revealed a little bit 316 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: of insight into this process for how they select this person. 317 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: They said that they generally consult the conversation on social 318 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: media and in comment sections to see who people are 319 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: talking about. They said that they asked female celebrities for 320 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: their opinions or their picks, and then they say that 321 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: they also consult with focus groups. I'm just wondering where 322 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: John Krasinski was in the comments this year. I don't 323 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that I saw him myself. I don't 324 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: know if I get it. I'm sorry I made to 325 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: be rude. 326 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: I think he, like you said, sounds like a really 327 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: great guy. 328 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly, also think some of the more 329 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: Zeke Icedy kids turned it down. I think it's a 330 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: it's a pr thing. Obviously they go out to their 331 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: probably top choices. I think Glenn and Pedro and Paul 332 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: might have turned it down, so it's not as cool anymore. 333 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: And it's like, if you want to be a serious actor, 334 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: like I don't think Paul and Pedro doing gladiat or 335 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: two right now. It's like donia to go do people 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Sexiest Made aliveed? Or do you do that Ladiator too 337 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: at this point in time? Or you know, I think 338 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: like Glen pal is out here filming all these things 339 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: and is like just did Twisters and anyone but you 340 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: and hit Man? And also it's like how many covers 341 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: can you be on? Like Glenn's on the cover of 342 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: the Vanity Fair Hollywood Issue. So it's like, if I'm 343 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: an actor and I'm picking like long term lasting prestige, 344 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick Vanity Fair Hollywood Issue over People Magazine. 345 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: That's a good I hadn't thought about the fact that 346 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: they somebody could have rejected it or turned it down. 347 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: But also if you look at the old covers, because 348 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: I went back and looked at all of them. The 349 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: old covers used to just be like a stock photo 350 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: of the person and then around like maybe twenty ten, 351 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: eleven twelve, you had to do a photo shoot. 352 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: So when you go and look at like people magazine 353 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: Sexiest Made Alive from like nineteen ninety five. 354 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: It's just like a photo of Brad Pitt, or like 355 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: a photo of George Clooney. 356 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: They clearly didn't do a photo shoot for it. 357 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: And I think now that there's like a whole shoot 358 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: an interview involved, they're like, nh, no, thank you. 359 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is like me being the 360 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: eight year old that always wanted to include everyone at 361 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: the lunch table. But I don't like Sexiest Man Alive. 362 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: I think it is like prom King and Queen. I 363 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: think it's like it feels mean girl and I if 364 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: we did it to women, if we said like Sexiest 365 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: Woman Alive, the internet would be a blaze, like that 366 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: would be terrible. I don't know if we should be 367 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: doing it to men. I don't think it's cool. Okay, Well, 368 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: this next story has me thinking red flag, green flag. 369 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: I want to know which one it is for you guys. 370 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: The UK publication stylist. They just published a piece about 371 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: women who get back together with their ex after taking 372 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: time apart. In one case, the couple was broken up 373 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: for five years, and the main takeaway from the piece 374 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: is that there's no like one size fits all rule 375 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: for getting back together with an ex. But there is 376 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: a sex and relationships expert doctor Rhiann Kivitz, who says 377 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: that rekindling an old flame can bring some surprisingly positive lessons. Apparently, 378 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: exes who reunite tend to level up their communication game 379 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: and are more tuned into patterns that broke them up 380 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: in the first place. So what do you think Have 381 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: you done this before? Have you gotten back together with 382 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: an X? 383 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: Not in any I mean we've had sex, but not 384 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: any particular official capacity. But I don't think that's impossible. 385 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at like, there's a lot 386 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: of married couples that broke up a lot a long 387 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: time along the way, especially if you were together when 388 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: you were younger, like high school, college, early twenties, I 389 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: find people often break up and get back together, get married, 390 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 3: and it's like good to go. So I don't think 391 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: there's any rules in romantic relationships. I kind of agree 392 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: with that. I mean, I mean, I think obviously been 393 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: in jen are a high level example of it not working. 394 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: But I think who has been in gen problems. 395 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 4: Been in gens. There's plenty that do. So I think 396 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: it's a green flag. 397 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Blakely, I see nothing wrong 398 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: with this. I think it all depends on the context 399 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: of the relationship. Why you broke up with a toxic relationship, 400 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Like if it wasn't then. 401 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: They moved to Australia and you're like, I'm not moving 402 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: to Sydney, Like you know, something happened. 403 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Mature and be in a different life stage, and I 404 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: think you can totally make it work. I agree, how 405 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: about you, Daniel. 406 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: So I did get back together with an X one time, 407 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 2: and I think it's different for everybody. When I did it, 408 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: I had changed. It had been like a year and 409 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: a half since we had broken up, and the lens 410 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: through which I saw him had changed because like I 411 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: had been through so many experiences. I started going to 412 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: therapy and so I actually felt like I had outdeveloped 413 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: him entirely and was uninterested in the relationship in the 414 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: community style. I remember my therapist at the time saying 415 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: you should feel so grateful for this opportunity because a 416 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: lot of people don't get the experience of getting back 417 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: together with an X and feeling that type of closure. 418 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: You just are sort of left with the breadcrumbs of 419 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: the relationship. So I do feel like if you need closure, 420 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: maybe it's an interesting experiment. 421 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think sometimes it's do not resuscitate. 422 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: What would have happened if your ex had also elevated 423 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: and matured and grown and developed. Like I think it didn't 424 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: work because it was a lopsided, you know, personal growth situation, 425 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: But you never know what could have happened if that person. 426 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: And men will do anything but go to therapy. 427 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: They will go to the gym, they will do a 428 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: CrossFit training thing, maybe listen to Andrew Tate. They will 429 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: do anything but just go to a therapist. And like figure, man, 430 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: go to therapy, go to therapy. 431 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: But like I do think you have to figure out 432 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: why you broke up in the first place, because a 433 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: lot of times, like the love is still there, the 434 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: chemistry is still there, the banter is still there, and 435 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, wait, we broke up because you wanted 436 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: kids and I didn't, and that hasn't changed, and that's tough. 437 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: Right right. Yeah. 438 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: If it's something immovable like that, that's not going to change. 439 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: I think if the breakup is circumstantial, like again like yeah, 440 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: I went to grad school and this just isn't functional, 441 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: or I live in La New York, or there's some 442 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: kind of like or like you know, if each one 443 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: of you values your career and your development in that 444 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: capacity and you just know by nature of like modern life, 445 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: if you live in Australia or London or Paris and 446 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: I live it's eleven hour flight away, this what are 447 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: we doing? And I think if that is the case, 448 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: and like that is rectified, then that's cool. But I 449 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: think if it is I just don't like you or 450 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 3: your toxic or we fundamentally want different things and that 451 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: doesn't change, then it's hard. So I feel like if 452 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: it's circumstance or distance that we can change, then that's good. 453 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: If it's them, Nellie and Ashanti are going strong. 454 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: They just had a baby. 455 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: I know, I love that for them. 456 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: Shout out to Jalo again. 457 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: It's time for another short break, but we'll be right 458 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: back with Blakelee Thornton and we're back with Blakelee Thornton. 459 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna pivot and talk about a new 460 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: trend that is kind of taking social media by storm. 461 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: Celebrity lookalike competitions. So we had a Timothy Challamet celebrity 462 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: lookalike competition in New York City a few weeks ago 463 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: because it was so We've seen a Paul Meskell competition 464 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: in Dublin, Harry Styles in London, and Dev Patel in 465 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco. What is happening? I mean, I'm so curious 466 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: about where this came from. There are a few theories 467 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: about this. One is they're organized by talent agencies as 468 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: a way to promote the individual stars and their projects. 469 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: And Timothy actually showed up to his lookalike petition, so 470 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, and it didn't win, right, which is 471 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: so funny? Okay, theory number two maybe this is just 472 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, a bit of fun. People are having fun 473 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's happening organically. Or number three, is this an 474 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: anti AI protest? You know, since deep fakes are on 475 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: the rise, is this a way for humans to fight back? 476 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: Who said that? I don't think it is number three? 477 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: People that's smart. We are not an organized people, I think. 478 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: I think it's partially I think the timote was like, 479 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: he is just the Internet's boyfriend right now. He's king 480 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: of the Internet boyfriend, so that one makes sense. And 481 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: I think it's probably a combination of other people's fans, 482 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: because I think like the Harry's and the Paul's having 483 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: tense fans like that too. I think it's just an 484 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: Internet boyfriend thing. Really, It's like you can look like 485 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: the Internet's baby girl right now. Like I wouldn't be 486 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: surprised if like the boys from like you know what's 487 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: it called Menindez had Well, like Nicholas Alexander Chabe, they're so. 488 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: Cute, Danielle, which theory are you glomming onto? 489 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: I don't understand this story even know what I'm using. 490 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I just feel like people have been trying to look 491 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: like celebrities since the beginning of time, and there's really 492 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: only like six types or archetypes of people in the world. 493 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: We all sort of resemble one another. 494 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: And the Internet boyfriend is right now like these are like, honestly, 495 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: I love I call it like I don't know, Caucasian 496 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: cultural blind spots, because these are all the same. Man 497 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: in Mike like Harry Styles, Paul Mescal, Timothy Challame Like, 498 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm not care notit dev I would go to a 499 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: Depatel lookalike contest, that's cool. But the rest of them, 500 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: it's internet boyfriend and seventy five percent of them, I 501 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 3: don't care. If you put all those groups together, they 502 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: would meld into one AI like Netflix Star. 503 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: So it's fine, right. 504 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Paul Mescal's last name is so confusing to me because 505 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I immediately think Mexico. I think Mescal, but it's not. 506 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: He's Irish. 507 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: He's also younger than Timothy Shallomey. Oh yeah, he does 508 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: not read younger at all. 509 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: I am here for these celebrity lookike competitions. I think 510 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: we need more joy, more laughter. This is just like silliness. 511 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: It's fun, like let's embrace. 512 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: People got arrested at the Timothy one that they called 513 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: it a riot, So I feel like, this is why 514 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: we can't have nice things. The police will show up, 515 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: you will get it, you will have a felony charge. 516 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: Wait, who's your celebrity doppelganger? 517 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: Mine, I don't think I have one. 518 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: I'd rather I think I'll just I'd rather just become 519 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: famous and have people copy me. Oh my god, that's 520 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: the goal right now, that's the next goal, to have 521 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: a Blakelee Thorne lookalike contest. 522 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm asking chat GPT who your celebrity look alike is. 523 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: Oh my, it's gonna be It's gonna be so disrespectful. 524 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: How is chat GBT gonna know they have a picture? 525 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: Now that's oh, I don't like that. We're making terminators. 526 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: We're out here making terminators. 527 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: Don't give it his picture because then it's gonna happens. 528 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give it the wow what is 529 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: it saying? 530 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Chat GPT says you're a prominent figure in the fashion 531 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: and entertainment industry and has not publicly identified a specific 532 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: celebrity look alike. While fans and followers often draw comparison 533 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: between figures, Blake Lee Thornton is one of one. 534 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: Look at that scene. I broke. 535 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: I broke chat GPT and this this was the small 536 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: amount of joy I needed. 537 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: You are on chatptable. 538 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: I broke chat GPT. It will soon steal my soul though. 539 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: We will be on the lookout for your celebrity look like. 540 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: Coming in twenty twenty five. 541 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 3: That'll be a whole episode of immediately no, and if 542 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: you don't look like me, I'll just say immediately no. 543 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Can you do? Can you do an episode of Immediately 544 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Know where it is a Blakely lookalike content? You just 545 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: have them on his guest Okay, great, yeah, perfect sign Well, Blakely, 546 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today. 547 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me immediately immediately now. 548 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Blakelee Thornton is an Internet personality and pop culture anthropologist. 549 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: You can watch him in the new out TV series 550 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: called Offshoot. That's it. 551 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: For today's show on myny we're learning how to stay 552 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: organized during the holidays with the founders of the Home Edit, 553 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: Cleia Shearer and Joanna Teplin. 554 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: Listen and follow The bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 555 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The bright 556 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: Side is a production of Hello, Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts 557 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon. 558 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Production by Arcana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wank, Krista Ripple, 559 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: and Amy Padula. Our senior producer is it'si Kintania, and 560 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: our engineer is PJ. 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You can find me at Simone Boice 571 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok. 572 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's r 573 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: O B A Y. 574 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: We'll see you Monday, y'all. Keep looking on the bright side.