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Speaker 2: sitting down with Alexandra Guilio. She is a celebrity makeup

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Speaker 2: Today. I am sitting down with Alexandra Guilio. She is

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no brainer. I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: It took you, It took you a while to get here, girl, girl.

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Speaker 1: I have to act like you already have it. You

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Speaker 1: So I started working with male athletes first, and that

437
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: was just random word of mouth. I had done a

438
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: shoot with Carmelo Anthony probably like my god, twelve years ago,

439
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: maybe a little longer than that. Ye did something with

440
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: Derek Cheter Joe Namath, who is like a big Jets.

441
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: Guy Jets you know, you know that guy Broadway Joe Nope. Deal.

442
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: So I was in the world of athletes already. And

443
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: then I got a job at Bumble and Bumble doing

444
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: makeup for a lot of their campaigns.

445
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Speaker 3: And they had partnered.

446
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Speaker 1: With Ali Creeker, Yes, our girl, Our girl, and we

447
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: had a two day shoot with them, and we I mean,

448
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: when you're doing makeup for someone, it's such like a intimate.

449
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: I know, I can't wait to dive into this with you,

450
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: but continue, I mean, you're seeing them with no makeup.

451
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: Some people are comfortable with that. Some people, aren't. You know,

452
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: Once you become someone's makeup artists, you're in their home,

453
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: you're around their family, like you're it's like a very private,

454
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: vulnerable space. And I feel like this is why I

455
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: end up being friends with all of my clients, because

456
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: it's just such like a personal experience and I like

457
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: to hold a safe space for them.

458
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I had met Ali this is probably

459
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: like eight years ago maybe, and then ever since that.

460
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, do the wedding makeup

461
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: and come with me here and do this and do that.

462
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: So she was the first female athlete I worked with,

463
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: like a few track track olympians before that. Yeah, but

464
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: she was the first athlete to really like want glam. Yeah,

465
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: and because not all the athletes want glam. They want

466
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: like something very soft, very natural, and I'm known for

467
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: a more natural look, but Ali was like, let's go glam.

468
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Speaker 1: So once I started working with her kind of opened

469
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: the doors and it was like, oh, you know, she's

470
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: friends with Pino and she's friends with Subird, and you

471
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: know Subird friends with Brianna Stewart and Brianna Stuart's friends

472
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: with Niara, and I just it just started to have

473
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Speaker 1: this ripple effect, you know, and just connecting with like

474
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Speaker 1: agents and becoming friends with people, and you know, working

475
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: with Mallory Swanson and doing her wedding makeup.

476
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Speaker 2: I do.

477
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Speaker 1: We do a lot of weddings. I have a bridal

478
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: aspect of the business as well. You know, we did

479
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Lindsay Harand's wedding. And We've just entered the space of

480
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: female athletes and I feel so inspired by them and

481
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: I feel so excited to work with them. I love

482
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: that they're so on time, because no one really is.

483
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: They're so on time, they're so determined, they're so motivated,

484
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: and it inspires me. So I'm like, I want to

485
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Speaker 1: continue to work with female athletes as much as possible

486
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: because it's so fun and so inspiring, so inspiring.

487
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Speaker 3: Were any of these people on your vision board? No?

488
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Speaker 2: So when I say that back to you and you

489
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: think about what it is that you're doing, now, how

490
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: does that make you feel?

491
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Speaker 3: Well? I'm trying to think.

492
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Speaker 1: I did have sports on my vision board when I

493
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: think about it, but it wasn't like a specific athlete.

494
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: But I think it's because I mean, I played softball

495
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: growing up. I played for thirteen years and I really,

496
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Speaker 1: I still want to get back into it, like a

497
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: woman's leek. I can join, but like when do we

498
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: have the time for that? But yeah, I did have

499
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: sports on my vision board, so it's funny to like

500
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: reflect on that. Yeah, but now I just feel like

501
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: so in it now, Like I'm so in it right,

502
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: it's been eight years.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. It's incredible, Yeah, and I love it

504
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: for you. You mentioned the intimacy that comes with doing

505
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: people's makeup. The first question for that is, have you

506
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: ever arrived in a moment and realized just like how

507
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: much of the weight of it or how big of

508
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: a moment It was, like, have you ever been so

509
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: kind of thrown off your game arriving into a setting?

510
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: Me and Marita, who's Ali's hairstylist, we walked into the

511
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: New York Stock Exchange and we were like, oh my god,

512
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: we're the New York Stock Exchange. And we were there

513
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: at Nasdak ringing the bell. We were up there ringing

514
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: the bell and I was like, why are we here?

515
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: But like we're part of the crew, you know, like

516
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: of course you have to come up here, you know,

517
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: being in Times Square, Ali hosting the ball drop on

518
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. I always said, I was like, you

519
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: can never pay me to be in Times Square New

520
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: Year's You Well, I guess I could be bought.

521
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: I can be bought.

522
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, Like there's been some really like crazy moments

523
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: for like us at the Emmy Awards or US wasn't

524
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: that Amy Wards yet, I think it was Emmy Awards.

525
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: You know, SP's haven't done.

526
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: SPI's which isn't done and the only reason why is

527
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: because I've just been booked with other things.

528
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: But hopefully next year he'll be there.

529
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, like also traveling the world, like

530
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: going to Spain, we went to Bilbao, Can been to Can. Yeah,

531
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: I've like I've really traveled the world with these girls,

532
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and Can was so fun. For Sport Beach,

533
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: we did Alex Morgan's glam we did Jen we did Ali,

534
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: like we just we had.

535
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: So much fun.

536
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just it it's like a pinch me moment.

537
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe this is what I get

538
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: to do.

539
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: I need to know, what's the craziest thing you've seen

540
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: inside of someone's home before.

541
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: The craziest thing that I have seen going into someone's

542
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: home is probably a club. No, like an actual like

543
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: party club.

544
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

545
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: Like they had an elevator that took you downstairs and

546
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: it opened up into a club with like all of

547
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: the lights and the sound systems and a DJ booth.

548
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: And I remember just thinking I was so confused. I

549
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: was like, is this like open to the public or

550
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: is this just this person's like their own club in

551
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: their house. Yeah, they had a club.

552
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the house itself was very large. It

553
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: was large. Yes, it was a large house.

554
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Well I want to pivot a little bit

555
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: and talk about how you get makeup to stay for

556
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: hours on end. You're working with a lot of individuals,

557
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: whether we're talking about getting ready before a game and

558
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: going out for play or going to events. These are

559
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: people that need their makeup to last. So give me

560
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: the rundown. What is the secret?

561
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a pretty good mix of skin

562
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: prep but also strategy, like knowing what we're doing and

563
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: what look we're trying to achieve, right, and athletes they

564
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: need makeup that is going to move with them and

565
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: going to stay and work with them and not against them.

566
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: So I focus heavily on skin prep and barrier repair

567
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: and red light therapy and hydration, and we do a

568
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: little bit of facial massage, ice rolling lymphatic drainage before

569
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: we even touch the makeup part. So I just feel

570
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: like it's all about layering in a way that's breathable

571
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: and making their skin look like skin, but also something

572
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be long lasting. So I'll definitely use a

573
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: setting spray that will cater to the look that we're

574
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: doing on them. I'm not huge on powders, but if

575
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: I need to use a little bit of powder, I

576
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: will Wait, what is it that we have against powder?

577
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: I personally love a hydrating, glowing look, and I feel

578
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of people can go a little overboard

579
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: with the powder. So if I do use powder, I

580
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: will use it on what I call like a microbrush,

581
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: so something that's small, like an eyeshadow brush, and just

582
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: really hit the hot spots where it's a little bit

583
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: oily or shiny, so maybe in the middle of the

584
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: forehead or on the sides of the nose or the chin,

585
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: and just with the smallest amount of powder, just hitting

586
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: those hot spots. But I feel like with the proper

587
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: setting spray that's going to give you a long lasting result.

588
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: I also think the biggest hack per SE is teaching

589
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: my clients how to maintain their look throughout the day,

590
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: so utilizing like all touch ups or like maybe there's

591
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: little blotting papers. For me personally, it's knowing that less

592
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: is actually more. So I always want the goal is

593
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: for their looks to be long lasting, but I don't

594
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: ever want it to feel like overdone or heavy, if

595
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense.

596
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: What I'm hearing you say is that skin prep is

597
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: where it's at now. For a number of years, when

598
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: it came to athletes, we were seeing a lot of

599
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: no makeup makeup. And what I love about what's happening

600
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: right now is there's a really big synergy between makeup

601
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: companies women in sport. We're seeing Sephora sponsor Unrivaled. I

602
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: mean that's just one small example. How does this make

603
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: you feel? What are you feeling about the future collaborations

604
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: between glam and sport?

605
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: So I think that this is really exciting because I

606
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: feel like this generation of athletes understand that beauty can

607
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: be utilized as a tool. Makeup is not necessarily a mask, right,

608
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's all about controlling the look

609
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: and controlling the narrative of how you want to feel.

610
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: These athletes now they're realizing they don't have to fit

611
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: into like one box and they can be strong and

612
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: they can be feminine and that can coexist at the

613
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: same time. So glam has become a way, I think,

614
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: to take ownership of their own story and their own narrative,

615
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: especially in a space that I feel like for a

616
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: long time didn't leave a lot of room for that.

617
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: For a long time, it was like, oh, it's an athlete,

618
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna want powder and you know, lip

619
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: bomb on their lips. And it's like, no, Like, you know,

620
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: some of these women, they want glam, they want flashes,

621
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: they want some blush. They I don't think it's more

622
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: so like they want to be transformed. But I feel

623
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: like when you look good, you feel good, and it's

624
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: more about like amplifying the look and showing the world

625
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: every side of who they are. And I'm just so

626
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: for it and I'm excited about it. And it's not

627
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: just the makeup, but it's also the hair, and it's

628
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: also the wardrobe too.

629
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Speaker 3: In terms of athletes, who would you say is doing

630
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: it well?

631
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely biased because I work with, like,

632
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the most fabulous people, right, But Ali, who's

633
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, She's like one of my closest friends. But

634
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: I feel like working with her, I love her looks

635
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: like she you know, has the wardrobe, she has the hair,

636
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: she has the makeup, she has the lashes, she has

637
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But also someone like Brianna Stewart, we

638
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: love some stewing, like we've really nailed down like her

639
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: look and what she feels most confident in and comfortable in,

640
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: and what photographs really nicely and what looks good on camera,

641
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, what colors to enhance her blue eyes and

642
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: what you know, tones maybe to stay away from. So yeah,

643
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I think, but also a lot of the girls, like

644
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: there's so many players in the WNBA, there's so many

645
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: players in you know, who play soccer and fall and tennis,

646
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: like just sports across the board that are stepping into

647
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: their looks and I am just so excited and here

648
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: for it.

649
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: You mentioned the WNBA, you also talked about the end

650
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: of USL. You are the guru for these girls when

651
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: it comes to makeup. You are someone that has been

652
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: referred time and time again. Why do you think that

653
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: that is why do you think you are such a

654
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: trusted person amongst these ladies.

655
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: I definitely think that team culture across the board with

656
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: these sports is everything, and these women truly do operate

657
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: like a family, and I feel like trust in these

658
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: circles are earned and not just given. And you when

659
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: you're traveling together and competing together and showing up for

660
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: each other every day, and then you know they might

661
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: referra or someone like me, or you know, one of

662
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: the hairstylists or one of the wardrobe stylists, I think

663
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: it means something different. And I think what resonated early

664
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: on was that I I started working with athletes many

665
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: years ago, and I really understood their world, and I

666
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: respected their time and their schedules and their boundaries and

667
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: just really started to build these relationships that all really

668
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: have turned into friendships. I never came in trying to

669
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: change who someone was, or you know, also reading the room,

670
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: like if someone is really uncomfortable with a lot of makeup,

671
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: we are not going to do a lot of makeup.

672
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: If someone is comfortable who really wants to cover up

673
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: some things on her face, we're going to cover up

674
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: some things on her face. So I think it's just

675
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: having clear communication and understanding and a level of being comfortable. Yeah,

676
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like once a few of like the

677
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: key women trusted me, the rest kind of followed organically

678
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: and it's been great because I mean, these ladies have

679
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: been incredibly loyal too, which has been amazing, and we

680
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: have fun and I really try to understand, like I

681
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: don't do the same look on every single person. I

682
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: really try to sit down with them and look at

683
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: their face and see what is going to help with

684
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: making them feel the most beautiful, confident person on the field,

685
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: off the field, on the court, whatever it is. So yeah,

686
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I think that the trust is really earned. It's really earned,

687
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: and we respect each other's boundaries and I show up

688
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: and they're dedicated.

689
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: I'm dedicated.

690
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: So I think word of mouth has just been the

691
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: absolute best way to dive deeper into sport. And I

692
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: just absolutely love supporting these women and being around them.

693
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: They inspire me. We have fun together and yeah.

694
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so no two faces are the same, but do

695
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: you have like a standard process that you use.

696
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: Let me just start by saying that I absolutely love

697
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: working with Suebird. She's truly one of my favorite people

698
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: and we have the best conversations. But something that we

699
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: have developed over time is what we call the Sue

700
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: Bird method. So she basically okay, so sometimes she really

701
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want any makeup, but other times we have to

702
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: do a little bit more, like when she's on Jimmy

703
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: Fallon or is filming for a documentary or something, and

704
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: also depends on like what she's wearing and how she's feeling.

705
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: So we developed the Suebird Method, which is like level

706
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: one is essentially skincare, So it's like we're really focusing

707
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: on the skin prep, maybe a little like eyebrow grooming,

708
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: maybe you know, some clear Misscara and some lip bomb,

709
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: like something like super clean, polished, no makeup. Then like

710
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: level two adds a little bit more refinement, right, so

711
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: it's like maybe like a little bit of like a

712
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: soft definition. Maybe we do like a light brown Misscara.

713
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Maybe we do like a lip thint that's like so natural. Basically,

714
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: we have level one to level five, and like what

715
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: we call level five is like wedding glam. That's like

716
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: we're doing glam. So I think the highest we've ever

717
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: gone was a level four. I think it was on

718
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon or Kelly Clarkson maybe both were like, she

719
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: let me put a few individual lashes on her, and

720
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, we still did like very neutral tones. But

721
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: it's funny because now I use this subird method with

722
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot of my clients. So it's just hilarious that

723
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: we've like developed this like method of glam.

724
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm obsessed with this.

725
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm also a massive Suebird fan as a Yukon alumni,

726
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: so and I know each other and I think I

727
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: don't know if she knows that she used my dream

728
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: guest for Hurdle, but she's truly like I would just

729
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: lose it if I had the opportunity to sit down

730
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: with her specifically for the show. We've had the chance

731
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: to chat in person before. But if you happen to

732
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: be listening to this too, this is my love letter

733
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: to you. Let's do some glam. Let's sit down and

734
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: let's have a chat for hurdle.

735
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. Maybe we'll probably do a level one.

736
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Like glam is okay with me? Yeah, related, kind of unrelated.

737
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Do you ever get starstruck?

738
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: Never? Really, I never get starstruck.

739
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: The only time that I had a moment that I

740
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: actually felt like a little taken back was when I

741
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: met Lady Gaga. I didn't do her makeup. I did

742
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: Zane Lowe's makeup. He's my client when he's in New York.

743
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: Love him.

744
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: He is amazing. He is the best interviewer, Like he

745
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: is fantastic. He's a creative director Apple Music, and I

746
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: just absolutely adore working with him. Yeah, and we're always

747
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: in the room with super powerful people. And there was

748
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: not that many people in the room with Gaga for

749
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: the interview, and it was several hours, and he knew.

750
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my girl, Like I'm a

751
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: monster like lom Yeah, And I again did not get starstruck.

752
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: But I always said to myself, the moment I'm in

753
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: the same room as Lady Gaga is the moment I

754
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: know that like I've made it.

755
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm like, did I make it? How did

756
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: I feel for you?

757
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I was feeling like I don't know if I made it.

758
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm like living in a home renovation and like me

759
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: and my boyfriend just broke up, and I'm like, oh

760
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: my god.

761
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: I was like, did I make it? I don't know.

762
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: But it was also super exciting at the same time,

763
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: and she's like so tiny and so beautiful and she

764
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: has such a strong presence, and I'm just I mean,

765
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: it's Gaga, Like who.

766
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't love God? Who doesn't love gok you know.

767
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: But that was a really that was the only moment

768
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I can think of that I was like, again, not starstruck,

769
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: but just like what's the word.

770
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 3: I mean, you're coming to terms with that.

771
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: You are literally living the life that you said hYP

772
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: like hypothetical, totally yeah, if I do this, it'll be wild.

773
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: And you're doing it. That's the thing.

774
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you you set these goals for

775
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: yourself and then you reach the goals and it's like, oh, well,

776
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I guess I got to set a higher goal now.

777
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: So it's like you just keep growing and you keep climbing,

778
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: and you keep setting these goals for yourself. And I

779
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: think it's important too, because I think, you know, it's

780
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: important to celebrate the successes and when you reach a goal,

781
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: like you know, sit with it, honor it. But I

782
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: also think when we are too stagnant for a little

783
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: too long, like it could be a little depressing. So

784
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, like hit the goal, Like now what yeah,

785
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's important to always continue

786
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: to set the standard tie yea and to continue climbing.

787
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: Was there a moment or an experience that taught you

788
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: that lesson specifically, maybe when you got okay with a

789
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: little bit of stagnation within your own life, whether it

790
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: be personally or professionally.

791
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: Not necessarily that I can think of. Then I'll flip this.

792
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Would you say that this mentality of always setting the

793
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: next goal? Yes, you said it's important to celebrate, But

794
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: would you say that this mentality of what's next has

795
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: ever been difficult or detrimental to you?

796
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

797
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: I mean there's also been times where I don't stop.

798
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And it's like that's why I'm like,

799
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: it's so important to like honor that you accomplished a

800
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: goal and honor that you like, or let's celebrate like

801
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: you've reached something big, Like let's celebrate it.

802
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: But it's like you always like think that.

803
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Your world's going to change once you hit this goal

804
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: or once you get something that you thought you wanted,

805
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: and it might feel really good for a minute, but

806
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, like it's important to do the

807
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: work inside. Yeah, it's important to like work on your

808
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: happiness and work on your mental health. I think constantly,

809
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: because then it's going to feel so much better when

810
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: you reach these goals, and then you can celebrate these

811
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: goals and then sit with them.

812
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, we got it. We gotta keep going,

813
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: we gotta keep going, We get the cycle.

814
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone might hear that and also think yes, and

815
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: isn't it tiring? Like isn't it tiring to always be

816
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: working on yourself? What do you think say when you

817
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: hear that? Well, like I've heard people like people have

818
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: asked me before. They're like, you have like so many routines,

819
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Like aren't you exhausted? Let's okay, let's pause, talk to

820
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: me about the routines, and then let's talk about exciting

821
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: at the morning routine.

822
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: Let's give the morning routine.

823
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get into the morning routine. I mean,

824
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: we love a good routine. Yeah, I feel like I

825
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: need a routine because my career is so all over

826
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: the place. And what I mean by that is like

827
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm on my client schedule, I never know I don't

828
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: even know what country I'm going to be in next week,

829
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm getting literally this morning, I woke

830
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: up to a client texting me like, can you come

831
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: to Toronto with me in two days?

832
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: Like it's it's just all over.

833
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, for me to have any kind of

834
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: like stability in my life, I have to have a

835
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: strong routine. Yea, So my morning routine really starts the

836
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: night before when I get home. I mean, I only

837
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: have red lights in my house because I'm like, I

838
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: don't need like bright lights, and like some people think

839
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: that's so weird, Like my neighbors are like, are you

840
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: a witch? Like what's going on in there? Like are

841
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: you a hooker? Like what's up with the red lights?

842
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, it's for my circadium rhythms, like

843
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: for like my nerves to be calm.

844
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: I know the benefit it's a red light, but do

845
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: you want to just like glaze over them for someone

846
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: who might not?

847
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 3: Sure?

848
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So red light therapy is very different than just

849
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: red lights in your house. The red lights in my

850
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: house is basically I don't want to be exposed to

851
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: blue light once the sun goes down, so I only

852
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: want to be exposed like amber or very like dim

853
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: warm or red lights. And that's just to basically help

854
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: the melatonin, you know, balance in your brain hole thing,

855
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: set your circadium rhythm so you're getting the most sleep

856
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: as possible, RESTful sleep. Red light therapy is a device

857
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: that was created by NASA and it uses infrared technology,

858
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: uses far and near infrared and basically what it does

859
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: is it goes through the dermis of your skin. It

860
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: targets all the mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of you know,

861
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: your cells, and it works to lower inflammation. It creates

862
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: something called ATP energy, which basically it's just renewing of

863
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: the cell. So it's really great to like wake your

864
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: cells up if there is inflammation, it's going to help

865
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: to lower any inflammation. Which is why it's so good

866
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: for skin. It's not made for skin now it is.

867
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you know, the craze is red light therapy, right,

868
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean this has been around for so many years

869
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: and you know for people with joint pain, and I

870
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: love to bring my red light to prep people's skin.

871
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: But again, because I.

872
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Work with athletes, I'm like, maybe you just want to

873
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: put this on your knee if you like hurt your

874
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: knee in a game or something.

875
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: The regenerative benefits exactly, so the night before. We're in

876
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: our home with red lights. Oh, red light.

877
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: If I am going to listen to music, it's like

878
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: those that's frequency music or classical music.

879
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: People are already like, who the hell is this woman?

880
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with classical music, like I like, I love

881
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: a classical moment, back.

882
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: Chopin, Mozart, like, give it to me, I love it.

883
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: I okay, not box Chopin or Mozart, but I do

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: listen to chill jazz in the morning.

885
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: Oka, I love that, Okay, we love it.

886
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I just love like a vibe, like I just calm,

887
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: like make me feel like I'm at the spa. Yes, okay,

888
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: So then I like, you know, get into my whole

889
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: skin carrotin, which is my ritual. Like skincare for me

890
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: is a ritual like taking my lashes off, my makeup off.

891
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I love polished choice, I love squalen oil. I love

892
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: using my micro current and just going through like the

893
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: taking my time with my shower, my skincare, the whole thing.

894
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: Like it's just a ritual that I'm obsessed with.

895
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I take my magnesium, I take my nighttime supplements, and

896
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: then I really try to not be on my phone,

897
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: like an hour before my phone goes on. Do not

898
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: to serve at seven pm. Sometimes I'm working till ten pm.

899
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: So every day is different. I try so hard to

900
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: like really get to bed at the same time if

901
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: I can. But yeah, so I try not to be

902
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: on any device for at least an hour before I

903
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: go to sleep. You and I have that in common,

904
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to do. Yeah, Like it is hard

905
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: to do, especially I feel like we're humans. We're all

906
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: so addicted to our phones. Like I really wish. I

907
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a rehab for people for their

908
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: phone addiction. Oh yeah, and I'll probably go you're probably

909
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: see be there, they're there. I also put the Wi

910
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Fi off. Yeah, like I don't need that like near

911
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: my head. No, we don't need that.

912
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: We don't. We don't have time for that.

913
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: Then you go to bed, I do my PMF map

914
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: and I read my book okay.

915
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

916
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: And I like to read, usually a biography or something

917
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: with history at night.

918
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh interesting.

919
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, during the day, I love like a entrepreneurial book.

920
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: At night.

921
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Give me all the history, give me all the biographies,

922
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: give me all the things.

923
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and then you wake up.

924
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: Then I wake up, Okay, I snuggle with my cats

925
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Obviously, my red light therapy machine.

926
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: It's right next to my bed. I'm putting it right

927
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: on my face. Wakes me right up right. Sitting there

928
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: for ten minutes, I'll do a little like you know, prayer,

929
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: meditation or affirmations, pet the girls, my cats, and then

930
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I go tongue scrape. I go drink my water. I

931
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: put my electrolytes in it. I love the SymbioticA molecular hydrogen.

932
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: You just drop it right in. It's like super hydrating.

933
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone needs to be drinking that. Do

934
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: my skincare, go to plot my plates. They have like

935
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: classes at five am, which is great. So if I

936
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: need to be in the city early, I try to

937
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: like get in if I have time to go for

938
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: a walk, I'll go for a walk just like natural

939
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: light hydration movements to start the day, and then I

940
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: feel like I can.

941
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: Get to it, get to it. So no routine is

942
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing, Like, you have nothing? Yeah, yeah, nothing nothing.

943
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's so many things that I'm skipping to. Well,

944
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: long did it take for you to get to a

945
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: place where you really felt like you dialed in on

946
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: the components of your routine as they stand.

947
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Right now, not that long like I feel like, I

948
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: mean really, it was during the pandemic when I was home,

949
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: and then when I started doing my rituals and routines,

950
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I feel really good. I'm going

951
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: to continue with this. And as I got busy, like

952
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: I just continued to be really diligent.

953
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: As you got busy, meaning that you're also no longer

954
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: always within your home to take these routines with you. Yeah, okay, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

955
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: And that's a non negotiable for you, depend it has

956
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: to be otherwise I'm exhausted.

957
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, I don't want to get inflamed

958
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: or I don't want the end of nutrious is to

959
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: come back, and I don't. I want to make sure

960
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: that I'm feeling my best also so I can show

961
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: up my best self for my clients.

962
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a beautiful pov. Okay, I have a

963
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: bunch of questions that I want to get into. We're

964
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: going to go into rapid fire for ten minutes now

965
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: before I let you go today. The first question, what

966
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: should we know about makeup while exercising?

967
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't love a lot of makeup while exercising. And

968
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: why is that because it can just clog your I

969
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: mean it can clog your pores. Like I don't love

970
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: wearing foundation at all during a workout.

971
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: It's just clogging.

972
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to do like a little miscare,

973
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: maybe a little brow fine, okay, but I think maybe

974
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: just skip it.

975
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: Three must haves for an easy everyday makeup routine. Okay,

976
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of concealer right in the inner corners

977
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: of your eyes. Don't need to like bring it out

978
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: where your crows feed are. That's where you start to

979
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: see the lines. Just a little bit darkness likes to

980
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: hide in the inner corner of the eye. So I

981
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: think just a little bit of concealer.

982
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: Blush.

983
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: I love like a liquid blush, just a little swipe

984
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: on the cheeks, just to give you a little glow.

985
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: And I love brows, like even if it's a clear

986
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: gel brow, just to like lift it up and just

987
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: lift the face.

988
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: And maybe a little eyelash. Girl, and I think we're

989
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: good to go.

990
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: You're segueing me into the question love a brow product

991
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: that makes it look like a laminated look? Do you

992
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: have any recommendations, and even better if they are sweatproof.

993
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: Oh. You know, it's funny. I always use a bar

994
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: of soap. Oh, a bar of soap, tell us more.

995
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a regular bar of soap with a

996
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: little blank, spoolly wet it and just brush your brows

997
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: up and they stay all day.

998
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Wow. That's a hot tip.

999
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: That's a hot tip. Bags under my eyes help? Okay,

1000
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: bags on your eyes? I could be from a lot

1001
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: of things. First you want to see like are you hydrated?

1002
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: Wait? I love this.

1003
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: I love that we're going to the root cause before

1004
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: you're like, and this is my favorite concealer totally yeah,

1005
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: because I'm all about like getting to the root cause first.

1006
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay.

1007
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so big on skincare, and that's also

1008
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: why I have a lot of male clients too, because

1009
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's focus on like the skin first and

1010
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 1: like the root cause of things, and then the makeup

1011
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: is gonna look fabulous. But you know, are you do

1012
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: you have contacts in too long? Maybe you're are you

1013
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: sleeping in your contacts? Are your eyes irritated from something?

1014
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: Maybe you're looking at your phone too much? Maybe you

1015
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: should get the blue blocking glasses. There could be a

1016
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: lot of reasons for under ice circles or darkness. But

1017
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: with that being said, making sure you're sleeping, making sure

1018
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: you're drinking enough water, getting your minerals, doing all the things,

1019
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: little cane. Before I get into the makeup ice rolling.

1020
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Love a good ice roller. I love a good ice

1021
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I have the skinny Confidential one. But I also I

1022
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: was traveling in London. I didn't have my ice rollers,

1023
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: so I just used cold spoons. Yeah, yeah, so I

1024
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: mean you can get real creative with it. You just

1025
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: use an ice cube if you want. Gotcha doesn't need

1026
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: to be fancy. But and then of course just a

1027
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: little concealer right now, really into the Lawless brand. Oh

1028
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard Yeah Lawless Anni Lawless, she has a

1029
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: fabulous makeup brand.

1030
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of brands of you at you recommend a hydrating,

1031
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: clean beauty lip color.

1032
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: Where we're going, I.

1033
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Think, say beauty and Lawless I think is a clean

1034
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: brand too, But say beauty.

1035
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: I love for someone who doesn't know what clean beauty is. Yeah,

1036
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 2: can you expand?

1037
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? They just they leave out a lot of nasty ingredients.

1038
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, makeup isn't the cleanest thing we as women

1039
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: and men somehow are.

1040
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: As people like to wear makeup.

1041
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the most cleanest thing, and a lot

1042
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: of them have different silicones and violate plates or you know,

1043
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: all these toxic things in them. But now a lot

1044
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: of brands are aware of this and they're starting to

1045
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: clean up the ingredient list, So there's definitely cleaner alternatives now.

1046
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: Tip to help make lipstick last on a run. Oh

1047
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: on a run. Oh we want we want to lip

1048
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: that stay baby.

1049
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that your lips are dry

1050
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: before you put on your lipstick.

1051
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: Then it's going to stay.

1052
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: If you put a lip liner on, it's going to

1053
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: stay all day if your lips are dry. I personally

1054
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: don't like my lips dry ever. Yeah, so I'm constantly

1055
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: reapplying you.

1056
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: And my best friend she literally cannot move around anywhere

1057
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: without at least one chapstick on her.

1058
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1059
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm the same way.

1060
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: Yep, best everyday tinted SPF tinted SPF. I love it Cosmetics.

1061
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Their c C cream A little bit goes a long way.

1062
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: CEC stands for color correcting.

1063
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: They do have an SPF fifty in it, and I

1064
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: absolutely love It's like one of my go to and

1065
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: I use it on a lot of my athlete clients.

1066
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: Last question here, favorite primer and favorite setting spray.

1067
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't love primer. Oh tell us why. I just

1068
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: think it makes the skin look dry, So you'll just

1069
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: do a moisturizer. I do moisturizer, a really lightweight moisturizer.

1070
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: Also depends on the skin type. People have different types

1071
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: of skin, so depending on our consult before the makeup application,

1072
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll use different things. But I very rarely will use

1073
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: a primer setting spray. I use religiously. I love the

1074
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: one size, and I like the cosmetics so much.

1075
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Yeah.

1076
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: I could go through questions with you forever, but before

1077
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: I let you go today, two more. First question is

1078
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: my girl. So many people come to your Instagram page

1079
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: now and they see a woman that's working with some

1080
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: of their favorite athletes and celebrities. But when you look

1081
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: in the mirror, what is it that you see looking

1082
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: back at you? Oh that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: What do I see? I struggled with this. Everything was

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Speaker 3: like during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I related like I always looked at myself

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Speaker 1: as Alex the makeup artist, and then when all that

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Speaker 1: was taken away during the pandemic, I was like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: who am I? But I'm also like, okay, I'm also

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Speaker 1: a sister, I'm also a daughter. I'm also an artist,

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Speaker 1: not just makeup artist, like I love art. I also

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Speaker 1: am like I just started to realize more things about myself.

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Speaker 1: So when I look at myself, I also I'm like

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Speaker 1: cheering myself on if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So you see someone that you're proud of, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's so special. I'm like, wow, look at me. Go

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Speaker 3: You've got this. You've got this girl.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

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Speaker 2: piece of advice looking back on shortly after you lost

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Speaker 2: your dad, You're in a place where you have to

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Speaker 2: grow up, as you said, quite quick, and there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of hurdles that go hand in hand with that.

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Speaker 2: Knowing what you know, now, what would you tell yourself

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Speaker 2: going through that hurdle moment?

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Speaker 1: It's all going to be okay, Everything is figure outable.

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Speaker 1: There is always light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 3: There's always light.

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Speaker 1: There is always light at the end of the tunnel,

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Speaker 1: no matter how dark, how lonely, how sad, how heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: Something can feel. It's always going to get better. It's

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Speaker 2: always going to get better, get better. I'm so happy

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Speaker 2: that you were able to come in today. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: I could wrap with you forever. Tell us how do

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Speaker 2: we keep up with you? How do we follow along

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Speaker 2: with you? Give me the details?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can just follow me along on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Alex Gale.

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Speaker 3: That's it, Alex Gale.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle conguered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.