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Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.

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Speaker 2: So you're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion

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Speaker 2: who talks back.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a

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Speaker 1: new episode that We Talk Back and show dedicated to

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Speaker 1: you dreamers and chases Niggas in you house. Yea, it's

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Speaker 1: your co host, AJ Holliday. What's up, tam Bam.

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Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's tam ma'am. I love y'all. I love

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Speaker 2: you AJ. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I love you more? I am well, y'all. I am

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Speaker 1: uh still waking up in the morning. Gotta thank God.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Losing weight, There is no

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Speaker 2: finish line to this ship. There is is a marathon.

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Speaker 2: Now you never win. You never win this race. You're

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Speaker 2: running forever.

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Speaker 1: You could follow funk off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm like, I took a couple, like a

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Speaker 2: couple of days off and I got on the scale

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Speaker 2: and the scale was like, oh hey, here go a

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Speaker 2: pound or two back on my god damn all weekend.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, like, because something clicked in my head

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Speaker 1: the last couple like after my little bath, I tried

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Speaker 1: to wash a lot of things down the dream after

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Speaker 1: my last spiritual bath, so some shit clicked in my head.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekends, I've been going kind of hard, but

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Speaker 1: you can't eat shit. And then when I actually subscribe

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Speaker 1: to my fitness Powder's time too, because that has helped

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Speaker 1: me to pass, like logging your calories and shit like that.

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Speaker 1: And then also this dude on Instagram had like a

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Speaker 1: whole old formula, like a very simple formula for losing weight,

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Speaker 1: like how much you need to eat, like your macros

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you know, my fitness power

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Speaker 1: tracks that shit. But yesterday was like, you didn't eat enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm not either, because next thing I eat, as soon

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Speaker 1: as I eat something, I'm a gaining the couple pounds.

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Speaker 1: I don't lost that exactly. Man, Shit, you can't eat,

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Speaker 1: you can't drink, you can't do shit.

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Speaker 2: Just sitting in the house and stuck down water. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Now. I have been making some lime water because you

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Speaker 1: know that helped burn calories too, you know, So I've

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Speaker 1: been putting line in my water.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing like apple cider vinegar.

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Speaker 1: I took up that tears my stomach up. Really, I

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Speaker 1: mixed it.

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Speaker 2: With water drink that down, take my beat my d

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Speaker 2: three vitamins. Then I go back with some SSS tonic.

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Speaker 2: That shit nasty as, but it's so good for you.

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Speaker 2: It's iron. I needed my iron below mm hmm. And

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Speaker 2: there's some chlorofy it seems.

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Speaker 1: Like the I do chloropho every day too, pussy bee

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Speaker 1: m while y'all over there with all them suppositories, y'all

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Speaker 1: be sticking up, y'all, ship just get your water, we mermaids,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you smell a little fishy, you need

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Speaker 1: some clean water, like because that ship. Them suppositories don't

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Speaker 1: get rid of in fact, and stuff like that, Like people,

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Speaker 1: what kind of stuff to a sign of those those

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Speaker 1: boric acid positories.

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Speaker 2: Listen, if things get a little randy down there, I

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Speaker 2: will shoot one of them up there.

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Speaker 1: Hello, What what kind of word was that your mama

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Speaker 1: be saying that?

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Speaker 2: Actually I used that word completely incorrectly. Rand is like aroused.

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Speaker 1: Oh they ran dad, that's some old shit, Helen. You know, y'all,

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Speaker 1: this past weekend was the morre of day weekend? What

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Speaker 1: you had going on? Tom, They're all.

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Speaker 2: I looked at my bank account and they said stay home, right,

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Speaker 2: So Friday night I went outside a new bar opened

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Speaker 2: up right across the street from my house, and I

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Speaker 2: went to it for that grand opening. It's cute. It's

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Speaker 2: like a little hookah spot. It's really small. I hung

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Speaker 2: out there on Friday night just for a minute because

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Speaker 2: someone was like, hey, pull up, so I went there.

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Speaker 2: But then Saturday and Sunday and Monday, God said, stay home, baby,

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Speaker 2: where it's free. So I went. I got a rooftop

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Speaker 2: pool and it was kind of like a club up there.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was up there drinking, you know, having We had

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Speaker 2: like a little my homegirl got like a portable plastic hookah.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect for the pool because you're not supposed to

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Speaker 2: have glass up there. So we was up there smoking

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Speaker 2: the little hookah, having our drinks and swimming and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It was a good time. And I did that all week.

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Speaker 2: And if it's free, it's for me.

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Speaker 1: Period. Man, were saving money all twenty twenty four. What

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Speaker 1: you just got got responsibilities? Let me see. So did

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Speaker 1: I go out Friday night?

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Speaker 2: My mama said, what you're doing for your birthday? Set

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Speaker 2: trying not to be homeless?

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Speaker 1: That part part, that part, because like my birthday is

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Speaker 1: next Saturday. A bitch got bills Okay, right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pay my bills for my birthday. I might get a

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Speaker 1: bird or a cat. I'm still the vigging, so.

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Speaker 2: That's no, get a bird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because I do want another dog.

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Speaker 1: But dogs are like high meetenance, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like birds, you can beat that bitch in the cage.

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Speaker 1: Cats really be fitting for themselves. Dogs you gotta damn

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Speaker 1: to take that nigga with you.

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Speaker 2: Listen, with a bird, you gotta make sure you temperature

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Speaker 2: control that house though, because you don't want to be

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Speaker 2: like Gina and my Mama bird.

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Speaker 1: No, you gotta make sure the fans ain't knowing if

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Speaker 1: that nigga be out. You know what I'm saying, Your

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Speaker 1: bird be that flew up in the fan. Ooh, nine

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars down a dream just that week. Damn bird,

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Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars. I'm like, how long has this nigga

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Speaker 1: been in the store?

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Speaker 2: What kind of bird? Nine dollars?

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Speaker 1: A sun conyr parakeet, That's what I want. They're a

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Speaker 1: little bit bigger, but they loud as hell, though talking

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Speaker 1: it's the only thing so but but they do talk.

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Speaker 1: Though they do talk. You can teach them to dance

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Speaker 1: and all the type of shit. But I went out Sunday,

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Speaker 1: so there was a whole this weekend was a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of gang shit going on in this city from

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Speaker 1: World Day weekend. And it did rain some also. It

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Speaker 1: was like acting like Miami or some shit off and

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Speaker 1: on rains for Saturday and Friday. And Saturday my Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I went to a after party for a white party,

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Speaker 1: so the majority people was in there were white on Bitch.

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Speaker 1: I came in through the white parties dressing all black

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Speaker 1: like jeezy. Okay it was and yeah, that was fun.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't been to a club in a long time,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, aside from when we went to the

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Speaker 1: Strip Club a couple of weeks ago. But I just

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Speaker 1: be feeling old as fuck in the club. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: know I look younger than them, goddamn gen Z's or whoever,

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Speaker 1: but I'd be feeling old as hell around them. Bitch,

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Speaker 1: my knee was hurting, do you hear me? Because Sunday

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Speaker 1: morning I worked out real hard, so now I got

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Speaker 1: these high ass heels on in the club and my

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Speaker 1: knee started buckling. And look my cousin when she talks

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Speaker 1: like she she's like those people that's like real touchy

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Speaker 1: when she talking and standing leaning on you, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I need a kickstand. I cannot hold up your body

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Speaker 1: weight and mine, you know, like I swear if you

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Speaker 1: hit me one more time while laughing and talking, I'm

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Speaker 1: a falling. Like I was really struggling to get the

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Speaker 1: had to sit down and rub my knee out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you was in there.

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Speaker 1: Because I did a lot of squats. Yeah, but you was.

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Speaker 2: Your knee hurting from squats mean your form might not

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Speaker 2: been a.

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Speaker 1: Good or or I haven't done any in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is, because if this ain't even

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Speaker 1: squatt on, no dick.

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Speaker 2: You doing ship you needed this year? Last night my

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Speaker 2: phone was so dry. I kept calling you like he's like,

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Speaker 2: why this bitch callow me so much? You got nobody else?

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Speaker 2: And I told you I've got no dick for you.

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Speaker 1: She did say that. I said, yes, you want loved.

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Speaker 1: I sent you to Alley Hoot once in lifetime already,

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Speaker 1: I'll like, no more dick to sent over there. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know other niggas. No more Okay, you neither neither.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's don't know. These niggas get in the scenes. Girl.

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Speaker 1: So I saw that, and I love Vivica Fox. I

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Speaker 1: think she's dope. So Vivica Fox basically says that, you know,

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Speaker 1: she thinks she's ready for a husband now. And I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure this lady has been trying to get married

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Speaker 1: over the years. I don't think that she's just been

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Speaker 1: outside her whole life ring. Just like all of us,

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Speaker 1: we'd be looking for our other half. So the headline says,

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Speaker 1: sixty year old Vivica Fox says she's finally looking for

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Speaker 1: a husband and she's taking boyfriend applications. So listen if

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Speaker 1: y'all listen to the show and got some money. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Vivica Fox looking for a husband, she said, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: She said no, she said, I'm not getting on an

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Speaker 1: app He must be fun, loves to travel, not intimidated

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Speaker 1: by who I am, and lets me spend money going shopping.

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Speaker 1: Open to all races. Okay, So Auntie is not limiting

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Speaker 1: herself to just black men only, because statistically, you'll be

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Speaker 1: dying alone. Okay. So Hair goes some tweets, and of

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Speaker 1: course Kevin Samuels pops up. You know, people were like

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Speaker 1: retreating pictures of him from heaven. Rip the Godfather. Only

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Speaker 1: one to defeat him is death itself. Is one tweet.

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Speaker 1: Another says Kevin Sagues was right about you women, damn.

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Speaker 1: And this other one said, three thousand pounds later, I

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Speaker 1: hate men. Yeah, I'm convinced women hate their boyfriends slash husbands.

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Speaker 1: Always given the worst version of themselves to those guys.

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Speaker 2: What makes that the worst version of herself? She's just older.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing that shit do scare me. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to still be out here, sixties, still looking

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Speaker 2: for love. And I'd be like I told you.

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Speaker 1: My mom and her homegirl, seventy year old cousin out here.

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Speaker 2: My mom and her homegirls, they'd be like they in

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Speaker 2: their sixties, and they'd be like, we don't even want

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Speaker 2: no man, no more a man come second to a

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Speaker 2: good book in the glass of warm milk. My mom

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Speaker 2: will say that, I don't never want to.

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Speaker 1: Be like married women want to get up out of

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Speaker 1: that too. I don't married women want to get out

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Speaker 1: of these situations and be single.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that. I want me a husband.

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Speaker 1: Forever I was in Walmart. Yes, I did go to Walmart, y'all. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was in Walmart and I was talking shit about something.

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Speaker 1: I was talking shit on the phone with my cousin

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Speaker 1: about men. I was saying something and then this lady

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Speaker 1: and her husband came on the aisle, nice looking black couple,

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Speaker 1: nice looking man, nice looking woman. And she was like, girl, sorry, girl,

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Speaker 1: I got the last good one. And I just laughed

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Speaker 1: because they were older, right, and he was a retired

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Speaker 1: police officer, and she was like, I got the last

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Speaker 1: good one, girl, Like, that's how I want to brag

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Speaker 1: on my husband in older age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, that sounds good. Yes, I got the

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Speaker 2: last good one. You're gass him up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what his smile.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like, wouldn't be gassing they mean up enough.

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Speaker 1: I know I don't, y'all Listen, I'd really be working

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Speaker 1: it through a lot of working through a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that I grew up under the reiin of a

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Speaker 1: crazy lady. And one thing I know I do is

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Speaker 1: talk shit like my mama, Like I don't got nothing

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Speaker 2: Well, I challenge you to like go up to him

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Speaker 2: I don't know what quality, but they keep one exactly.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever write down, like the things that you

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to try and manifest exactly what you

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Speaker 2: My I be twitching writing it down. My I be

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Speaker 1: Did you see this? Damn Mayor maryor chuck this girl?

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Speaker 1: he says, Jala, you're a whole No, she's no excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Shanayah dropped to your mother's to your mother f and

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Speaker 2: Tell me your daughter to a niece to get on

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Speaker 2: I don't care how mad it lasted for several minutes.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine why they acting the way they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he don't need to be talking like that too, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Not, and know you're doing it on a public platform.

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Speaker 2: Apologize party for his family. Nigga girl, you ought to be.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said, what type of Mary gets online? And talks

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Speaker 1: him to suck his dick. No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: That is just so weird and wild for a father

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Speaker 2: Listen, I understand sometimes your kids get on your nerves

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Speaker 2: I probably deserved it. But she ain't never tell me

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Speaker 2: to eat her kouchie that like that, Like that's crazy,

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Speaker 2: that's insane for your period to ever say that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all summer is here. Okay, Juna's Juna's hair is Gemini season,

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Speaker 1: Jim and Jim and Gemini season. And if you're trying

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Speaker 1: check out this app called fly me Out. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: this is a real thing. It's an app called fly

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Speaker 2: I thought about it, but yo, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: like a dating website and obviously it's it's men flying

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Speaker 1: That's insane. Well, I didn't know the app, so I

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Speaker 2: That just sounds like a recipe for disaster. You just

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Speaker 1: We just had an episode on pimping like this is

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Speaker 1: pimping like this is like legal pimping, like setting up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it ain't just fly me out and come

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Speaker 1: White girls. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be white young girls. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I know about I know some white hoes.

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Speaker 1: We do, women do, but it just seems like men

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how this.

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Speaker 1: White men do not be concerned about the knowledge on

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Speaker 1: They just get to exist. Black women.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Black women, we might, they might get judged.

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Speaker 2: We just don't live inside their bubble and that's why

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like white men be really burrating their wife. Man, Susan,

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Speaker 1: were Jeff in college.

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Speaker 2: You were Jeff in college.

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Speaker 1: You were with Jeff in college. Oh shit, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Our topic for today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely is a great segue into this week's topic. Y'all.

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Speaker 1: I had some little things going on this weekend and

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Speaker 1: And I want to preface this conversation by saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: in the past. I'm not homophobic. Okay, you're heterophobic butt,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But it's just something that women have to

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Speaker 1: you know, I like you, but I've also dated men

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Speaker 1: in the past. Can you date a man, Tam who

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Speaker 2: Hell no, I said, hell no, And let me tell

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Speaker 2: you why, because not because I have anything against bisexual people.

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Speaker 2: Live your life, do what you want to do. Fuck

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Speaker 2: who the fuck I don't care for me is I

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Speaker 2: That's just too much. It's just too much for me.

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Speaker 2: I can't worry about it. I can't be concerned with

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the sentiment that most women have, right.

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Speaker 1: Their concern is always the man, then being promiscuous with

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Speaker 1: don't give a damn what y'all say is just levels

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00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: to this shit, right, and that is an extreme level

433
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: of cheating. But we shouldn't assume that just because a

434
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: man is gay, right, that he or bisexual, that he

435
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: would cheat with a man. He may not even be

436
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: a cheater, you know what I'm saying. He may not

437
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: cheat on you with a man or a woman. It's

438
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: just his sexual preference. He likes egos both ways, but

439
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: whenever he's in a relationship with a person, that's who

440
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: he's with. For me, I could never engage in any

441
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: relationship with a man who is openly bisexual. When I

442
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: say openly meaning you told me, thank you. I appreciate

443
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: you for being honest, because there are a lot of

444
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: men who are never going to be honest with themselves

445
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: or anybody else, and they secretly do this stuff. There's

446
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: no way for me to know. So when I say

447
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: openly gay, openly bisexual, you told me, right, I just

448
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: think that there's a different mindset for people who go

449
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: both ways, like that's just their lifestyle. It's just a

450
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: different mindset that I don't have, because I feel like

451
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: even in conversation with some men. I remember one night

452
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: my homegirl, we met up with one of her friends.

453
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Gay guy, big ass, gay guy. He like six ' five,

454
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: nice looking, he does hair like nice looking guy. He

455
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: kept asking me if I wanted to have a baby

456
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: with him, like boy, he has a son, he said

457
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: he wanted more children. I'm like no, like so then

458
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: we got then at the bar, get into a whole

459
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: conversation about why men need to tell women that they

460
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: are bisexual or that they have had sexual encounters with

461
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: men before, And he was arguing me down about how

462
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: that's not a woman's business, Why doesn't matter who the

463
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: man has been with before. Why doesn't matter who a

464
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: person has been with it matters.

465
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 2: I think it matters.

466
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Let's talk about why it matters.

467
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: But all right, hold on, here's the thing. Because if

468
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: a man asked me about my past, you the only

469
00:25:52,920 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: one my holdness get deleted. So is it for me

470
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: to say I need to I don't have to tell

471
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: my sexual history, and then require a man to tell

472
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: his sexual history. That seems like a double standard.

473
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: It is, and I'm it's just is. So there's a

474
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: lot of double standards against women. One, you can't be

475
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: a whole You're gonna get judged for it, right, that's

476
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: a double standard that we live with. There's a lot

477
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: of things that men do that we just simply can't

478
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: do without judging getting some type of public shame and

479
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: judgment about it. Right. And to me, bisexual men, there's

480
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: no such thing. You're a gay man. I don't believe

481
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: that there's such thing as bisexual men. What you're just gay?

482
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: You're just gay. And I need to know that you

483
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: have had sex with a man, because it's a different

484
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: type of mindset, like I don't want to deal with.

485
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: It just comes with other things, not just the sexual thing.

486
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: It's just the whole the way they think. Like this

487
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: man arguing me down about not he doesn't feel like

488
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: you should have to tell a woman that you've been

489
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: with a man before you. I feel like you have

490
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: to because if I ask you a question and you

491
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: tell me a lie, now you're being deceitful. Right, Why

492
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: are you being deceitful? Why do you feel like you

493
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: need to withhold that information? Because there's a reason.

494
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: The reason is because, especially I think in the black community,

495
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: why a man would want to withhold their information is

496
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: because black women don't accept you back. Once you go gay,

497
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: once you have a sexual experience with same sex as

498
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: a black man, it's hard to come back to women.

499
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: That's not true that there's a lot of women out here.

500
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: Like listen, during the pandemic, I was on a clubhouse

501
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: heavy It was so many women on there. Like in

502
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: these conversations who said they prefer bisexual women, so many

503
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: prefer a lot yes, in conversation out of the years,

504
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: like there are women out here that you could be

505
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: your self with.

506
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: I agree, but I but I you know, just based

507
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: on my experience, maybe it's in my age group, they're

508
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: not as open to bisexual men like, once you go

509
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, same sex, it's hard to come back to women.

510
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: They I won't accept you back me personally, I'm not.

511
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: And that's just my preference because I already told you

512
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: I can't deal with like you going on a boy's trip.

513
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: The fuck you going on a boys trip for a

514
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: motherfucker like I can't. I don't have time for that.

515
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: See and look, that's another double standard. And men like

516
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: to talk about us. Oh, y'all go on girls trips

517
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and y'all be eating each other a's KOUCHI that is

518
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: not happening on girls trips, okay amongst the friend group.

519
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh you Busty knows what shit. I don't know, because

520
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm never eating kouchie in the first place. I'm definitely

521
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: not eating my homegirl Cucci. So you need to tell me.

522
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: Bitches be over it. Y'all. Niggas might got some validity

523
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: with this the way tam just look, I don't know,

524
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't always, I don't know.

525
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about we're saints. I never ate

526
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: no Kouchie on no girl's trip, So.

527
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I mean maybe somebody like

528
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: somebody on the island, some other woman outside the friend

529
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: group by the eight a friend's kucci. But I had

530
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: the homegirls that's hanging out, going on a girl's trip

531
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and somebody's eating each like what.

532
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I've never done that, but I've seen it happen.

533
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: You know how they say who Richard Pryor and who

534
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: had six? It was drugs? They ah, Marlon Brando or

535
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: something like that. Yes, mm hmm, it was you know,

536
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: drugs alcoholic and those are men, That's what I'm saying.

537
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: So when my man keeps wanting to go on these

538
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: guide trips and I can't go ever, you just have

539
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: this one homeboy, you do you remember that online?

540
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: It was like a post. It was a guy that

541
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: it was a woman saying that. You know, she's asking

542
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: for other people's opinion because her boyfriend or husband you know,

543
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: was going on his little annual boy strip with his

544
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: homeboy and she demanded to go this go around. He

545
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: had his wife sitting in coach while him and his

546
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: homeboy was in first class.

547
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, So why because he didn't want her

548
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: to be there.

549
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: He didn't want her to be there like this is

550
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: his Like that's the red flag for me.

551
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, why should Demanda go? Why should demand of going?

552
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Honestly, because she probably felt she probably it's just him

553
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: and it's one other person. It's not like it's multiple

554
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: people on his boys strip. It's just her guy and

555
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: his homeboy.

556
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: But it's like, what if me and my best friend

557
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: want to go to a nice spot in Arizona or

558
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: something like that on the SPA trip and my man.

559
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: She already had reservations about him.

560
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: Okay, she has some sexual why she was.

561
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: Pushing the issue. Yeah, I mean she already felt like

562
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: he was on some little creepy shit.

563
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: But just a vacation, Just a vacation.

564
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and you are not invited, wifey, you stay at

565
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: home with the churn. But he put his wife in

566
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: coach child, and he was in first class with his

567
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: his nigga.

568
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that happens. It happens.

569
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: I just I'm not signing up for anything like that. Like,

570
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I can deal with a man wanting a woman or

571
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: cheating with women, but how do you compete when your

572
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: man is cheating with men? Like you can try to

573
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: do all the things, like you might try to introduce

574
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: anal sex. You know what I'm saying. Maybe he likes it.

575
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like, could you imagine your man being the bottom,

576
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: dough dog, This is your husband and he's the bottom,

577
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and that that's a whole nother level. Yeah, he's the

578
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: bottom for other men.

579
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I You know, that would make me

580
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: a man because now you like me, If you're taking

581
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: dick like me, then now i'm you know, And I

582
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: don't want to offend anybody with that statement, because it's like,

583
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a man if I take dick. I'm not

584
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: saying you're not a man if you take dick.

585
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we both take dick.

586
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: So now I feel like me and you on a

587
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: more level playing field. You know what I'm saying? Is

588
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: that fair? Just I would emsculate him, I would.

589
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it just depends on his demeanor, Like even

590
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: though he takes dick, he is not a masculine man.

591
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 2: If I find out my nigga took some dick. As

592
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: soon as we get into.

593
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: An argument, I thought you was working on that using

594
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: vulnerabilities against people.

595
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: Listen, that's just one of them. That's just gonna I'm

596
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: a like if I ever had that, that's an easy one,

597
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: right there for the take. It, it's right there for

598
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: the taking. I'm sorry that's fucked up, but it's true.

599
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: I'm being honest. So I couldn't do it.

600
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and I would want I need a woman on,

601
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Like I actually put a little kite out there to

602
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: see if anybody would bite to actually be able to

603
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: come on the show to talk about their their situation

604
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: and talk about you know, were you ever in a

605
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: relationship with a guy and he came out bisexual, or

606
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: did you knowingly engage in a relationship with somebody who

607
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: was honest and upfront with you about their sexuality and

608
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: you you know, maybe it was a great relationship, maybe

609
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: with other things that caused y'all not to be together anymore.

610
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Or maybe they're still together, or you couldn't.

611
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: Actively be in it. Yeah, because I don't want I

612
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: don't believe that these people can't carry on healthy relationship,

613
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because we already know it's

614
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: a lot of heterosexual men with much I don't call

615
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: it mental illness, but a whole lot of gangshit be

616
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: going on their damn minds, all right. But I feel

617
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: like some of those men who act out on women,

618
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe battling their sexuality. I feel like men who put

619
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: their hands on women are sometimes they just they like,

620
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, pussy. They like sex with women, but they

621
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: don't necessarily like women, and they probably like prefer their homeboy.

622
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. That's what I was saying to

623
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: you yesterday, is like if vagina wasn't wet, I probably

624
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: would be a lesbian, Like because I trust the counsel

625
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: of women more. I feel safer with women. I feel

626
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: like my vulnerabilities are more safe with women as of

627
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: Like I just I haven't really met a lot of

628
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: men that I could trust with my vulnerable self to

629
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: care for my heart. Yeah, I don't feel like I

630
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: meet a lot of men that I can do that with.

631
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: Where I just feel safer around women, which is is

632
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: crazy because I should feel safeer around men, right, But

633
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: I just do.

634
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: But I just don't like titties.

635
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: Flapping all over the place and kuchie all went and stuff.

636
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: You know.

637
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, listen, I know I can't be

638
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: a lesbian because I don't like nothing moist. I don't

639
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: like nothing like OUI gooky, like it's an oyster. I

640
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: like oysters you know, I eat a whole bushel of them,

641
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: but I don't, that's what and weave between my legs

642
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: like I'm cool on that ship. It's just it's just

643
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: too much. And you know another thing, I don't know

644
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: a gay couple that doesn't fight. I'm talking about two

645
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: women because they it's very volatile period up and yeah, yeah,

646
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: like so I don't.

647
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: And then I'm work with a bitch than I am,

648
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: you know, a nigga.

649
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like if a man pissed you off,

650
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: at least he can drop that dick on you, Okay,

651
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: at least he can like make you feel better that way.

652
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: Now this girl got to go get this goddamn plastic

653
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: bullshit that's bending in and it's like it's some woman

654
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: love that. How fun dick looked on here? That dick

655
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: she pulled out, that black aude at it. That dick

656
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: was from Filo, That dick came from.

657
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that cheap ass dick on head girl, If you're

658
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: gonna put that dick up, not a paper mache that

659
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: did came out the discount basket at the x X

660
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: sex Story.

661
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Nothing appealing about that dick. I don't want it at

662
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: least you can get a nice warm penis after this

663
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: man pissed you off. Meanwhile, you're in the house with

664
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: this bitch. Y'all periods, Sun SYNCD up you mad about now?

665
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Y'all fighting? Now DV charge is involved. Like that's what.

666
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know A couple that doesn't fight.

667
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: A gay couple that doesn't fight.

668
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the women that I know, they be going

669
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: at it.

670
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: My sister, my older sister, is in a lesbian Mary

671
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: and they are like two little peas in the pot.

672
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: They ain't always been like that, though, but now it's

673
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: sickening how much they like each other. You FaceTime and

674
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: stay in there singing Whitney Houston together. I'm like, y'all,

675
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: bitch is wag, I'm about to go?

676
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Is that?

677
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: Why? Is that why you want a girlfriend? I don't

678
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: want a girlfriend. I'm just saying, like, I just have

679
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: better relationships with women, but not I wouldn't want to

680
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: have an intimate relationship with a woman for real.

681
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because just yeah, because men, men are traumatizing. I

682
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: have been traumatized in every relationship I've been in. Yeah,

683
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have one relationship where I didn't.

684
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: It didn't change me, not for the better, you know

685
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, partially, you know you do, you know,

686
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: do things a little bit differently, But I do move

687
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: on to the next situation. Like I've never been hurt before.

688
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't let it like hinder me. But it really

689
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: be some internal shit you gotta work out.

690
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: That's what about to say, Like some of the shit

691
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: you just carry you unknowingly, you know, like you carry

692
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: it with you and it affects how you well. Speaking

693
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: for me, it affects how I navigate in the next

694
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: relationship some of the things. So I do take it

695
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: with me sometime and hopefully, I mean, I've been single

696
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: for a minute now, so we'll see how this next

697
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: thing go. I think I'll be a lot better with

698
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, I can be real spicy with my tongue,

699
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: but I've been trying to work on how I deliver

700
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: my assault rifle.

701
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: You just gotta get it. You just gotta get a

702
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: son of a bitch girl and they'll be okay with

703
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: your tongue.

704
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't want that by saying, because you get

705
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: a son of a bitch, she was okay with a

706
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: tongue being spicy. His tongue might be spicy too, and

707
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: then we have kids and he telling our daughter good

708
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: down on your knees.

709
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh shut up, I don't want no.

710
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: Man who's okay with that?

711
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he's wild. Well, so I found this article on

712
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: very well Mind, verywellmind dot com on relationships. It says

713
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 1: how do you cope when your spouse comes out as gay?

714
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: So even on this website, they're not calling it bisexual,

715
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: They're just like he's gay. Right. It starts off by

716
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: saying people change. I don't think that's true. I think

717
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: in this particular situation, you already knew, you know, you

718
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: just didn't let it come out right. So I don't

719
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: think you could be forty years old and then just

720
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: change to gay or bisexual. This is something you probably

721
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to experience, you probably had been experiencing. But

722
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: if you didn't experience it, you are doing it now, right,

723
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: So whatever, I don't think it was a change. Though

724
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: it says people.

725
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: Change, it's definitely a change.

726
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: If you it is a change already. That's a change

727
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: to me, Yo, big change. People take longer to find themselves.

728
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Life will always throw you curveballs you never saw coming.

729
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Finding out your partner is gay or queer is one

730
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: of those complicated situations that are both positive on certain

731
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: levels and devastating on others. It's a lot to unpack.

732
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: It says you may have had suspicions your partner was

733
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: somewhere on the Kinsey scale. I haven't looked that up

734
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: to see what a Kinsey scale is. It's probably like

735
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: the different sexual orientations. I guess it was. It says

736
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: right exactly said, lots of people are bisexual or by

737
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: curious and heterosexual relationships, and these relationships are so strong

738
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: lots of people. It's not until your partner tells you

739
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: directly that they are gay, as in they've realized that

740
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: they are more attracted to the same sex than the

741
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: opposite sex, that you may be facing a significant challenge. Okay,

742
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: so this is more talking. This is more so talking

743
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: like okay to a married and a woman is a

744
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: woman and man are married and the man says, hey,

745
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm gay, Like, yeah, I'm with you, but I actually

746
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: prefer men.

747
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: What do you don't know?

748
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: What would you?

749
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with that? How did

750
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: we get here?

751
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like what happened? Like? Were you being gay?

752
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Tod? It's kind of like, uh, the Kardashian what's her name?

753
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh, Chris Jenner?

754
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Chris, Yeah, I mean, well, but he not gay because

755
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: he don't like men.

756
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: No, he's definitely gay. Yes, the guy, the excuse me,

757
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: the girl he was dating was a trans woman. It

758
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: was a young he was dating. Excuse me, say what

759
00:41:52,920 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Jenner was dating a trans woman, which is technically like, yeah,

760
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: genetically a male. Yes.

761
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Really, I thought he only dated women. No, I mean

762
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: she Excuse me, I thought, baby, this would be hard.

763
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: It's the whole I thought it. Okay, Formerly Bruce Caitlyn

764
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: dated women, so making her lesbian.

765
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Bruce used to date women.

766
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I thought Caitly men too.

767
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: No, Caitlyn was dating and you might have thought it

768
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: was a woman, but it was a trans woman. Oh okay. Yeah.

769
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: So the next part is the article says on finding

770
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: out your partner is gay, unless your spouse shares your

771
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: sexual orientation with you, there's no way to know for

772
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: sure if they are gay or queer. So call signs

773
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: like how your spouse talks, walks, dresses, or likes are

774
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: not indications of sexual orientation, nor are sexual preferences including

775
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: oil and anal sex. Rather than making assumptions. The best

776
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: way to know for sure is to have an open

777
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: dialogue with your spouse. You'd never want to directly out

778
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: your partner, It's okay to bring up observations you've had

779
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: about them while emphasizing your love and support for them

780
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: no matter what they say. If your partner isn't ready

781
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: to talk about it, accept that truth. They will come

782
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: out to you whenever the time is right. This experience

783
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: is just hard for them, if not more as it

784
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: is for you.

785
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: I yeah, that's got to be hard to tell someone,

786
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: especially if you're in a heterosexual relationship and then you

787
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: come out and say, hey, I don't want to be

788
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: heterosexual anymore. It's got to be hard, and you know,

789
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: I'm honestly quite brave to do that if you live

790
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: a heterosexual lifestyle forever, especially for a man. I think

791
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: for women it's a lot easier because.

792
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's the standard.

793
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, because if you tell your husband like more acceptable,

794
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: guess what, baby think I was so pissy? What do

795
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: you think he be?

796
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: Like?

797
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: Shit, me too babulous, you know, but not so much

798
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: to do it the other way around, Whereas if some

799
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: men not okay with that shit either, like they're not

800
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: okay with their girls sleeping with women all the time

801
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: without them, with or without them.

802
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: Like everybody not okay with that situation, right, But I

803
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: feel like it's more okay. It would be in the opposite.

804
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: Right, and in my fear would be like, you're in

805
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a relationship with this bisexual man, like who was honest upfront,

806
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: told you you get into the thing, and then he

807
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: he tells you he wants a man. He then is

808
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: honest with you again, right and says it says, you know,

809
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: I want a man for a little bit. What do

810
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you do?

811
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you was down with it from the beginning,

812
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't see why you.

813
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: No, because you're not actively doing a thing, you know

814
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You just let me know that you

815
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: have done the thing before it Well, okay, I guess

816
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: that's actively.

817
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not okay with him being with

818
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: anybody outside of you, then okay. But if you're okay

819
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: with him like fucking a woman but not a man, well,

820
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: why'd you get with a bisexual man in the first place?

821
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: If you were only okay with him having sex with

822
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: a woman. You see what I'm saying, Like that don't

823
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: make sense.

824
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, wow. The article says, while while the following

825
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: signs may relate to your spouse's sexual orientation, they can

826
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: also be attributed to other problems in their life or

827
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: your marriage. You notice your spouse has lost interest in

828
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: sex or has trouble engaging in sex. Do you think

829
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a sign. I mean, that could be

830
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: a sign of cheating. It may not be a sign

831
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: that he's dealing with men, right, he might.

832
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: I mean, did you get fat? Did you get skinny?

833
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: Like somethingbody to change where he's just not said.

834
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: Y'all got y'all ain't got no money for the bills

835
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: like men stress about that type of shit too. I

836
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: don't want to have sex.

837
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

838
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: You notice your spouse has a sense of confusion about themselves.

839
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I wonder what that looks like.

840
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, like niggas trying to grow braids or

841
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: something out of nowhere, Like I don't know.

842
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: What a man weave.

843
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: I'm not against the man we'ves because some of these

844
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: niggas be.

845
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: You should be looking good, Yeah.

846
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: As long as you keep it up and it ain't

847
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: flapping off in the wind.

848
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: And don't be asking me to do it.

849
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: No, I'll tack your ship back down if it's coming up.

850
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: We got somewhere to be.

851
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: No, this is a big giant red flag. And I

852
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: actually have went in a nigga phone to see if

853
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I see anything like that. Yes, you know thisice pops

854
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: pop ups of gay pornography or dating sites on their devices.

855
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I've looked. I've looked through somebody's porn hub history before.

856
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: Have you I stay out of nigga's phones. I just

857
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't ruin my own good day. I never.

858
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't either. But what I'm saying

859
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: is I have. And the thing is I am capable

860
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: of going through a nigga phone and never telling them.

861
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: Men can't. They can't go through your shit and not

862
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: address what they see. I can go through a man's

863
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: phone and never mention this not me because I am

864
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: choosing to be happy.

865
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: Me choosing to be happy is not going through that ship,

866
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: because if I go through it and I see something,

867
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna show on my face. Even if I don't

868
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: say nothing like damn, what's wrong with you?

869
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Nothing? It's over. It's over.

870
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm gonna turn up at some point.

871
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: So I just don't even look Stevie.

872
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: You know what I do. I turn up when you

873
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: turn up on me. I saved my ship for those days,

874
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: and that is toxic. Yeah, they're nothing.

875
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it is my two pulling out us a joker cart.

876
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: And I took pictures of the ship. I got a

877
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: whole fucking folded for your ass. Okay, from ship from

878
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: your phone while you're trying to address some shit I did.

879
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying something.

880
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Here's another one. You notice a new group of friends

881
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: on their social media, many of whom are openly gay

882
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: or queer. Now I have definitely there is some guys

883
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: I know, and I've looked in there, like why are

884
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: you all these gay dudes following you? These are clearly

885
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: gay men, like they having spitos and shit like that

886
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: on on their page. Always got muscle, Always take a

887
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: pictures from the back, you know what I'm saying, Like

888
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: these are why why are you following these people?

889
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: If they're following Like, if someone's following you, you can't

890
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: really control. And I wouldn't say like, oh, especially if

891
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: my man is like popular or in some sort like

892
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: entertainer or something like that, and he got gay men

893
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: following them, I can't. I wouldn't be mad at that.

894
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: But if he's following a lot of gay men in return,

895
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: that ain't like friends that he grew up with or someone,

896
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: because I mean, you can't fast your nigga for like

897
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: growing his cousin gay. This is his first cousin, right,

898
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: you know, like.

899
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: What he's gonna do, right, they grew up together.

900
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's my that's my guy, you know, either way,

901
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, following a bunch of new gay people gay men,

902
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: it's wild. It's interesting.

903
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: So do mixed orientation relationships work? Mixed orientation couples are

904
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: those in which the partners do not share the same

905
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: sexual orientation. Examples of mixed orientation couples include partnerships in

906
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: which one partner is straight and the others not, but

907
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: could also include relationships in which one partner identifies as

908
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: a lesbian and the other identifies as bisexual. For example,

909
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: according to one study, there are up to two million

910
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: couples in which one member identifies as straight and the

911
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: other does not. Among these couples, when a gay or

912
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: lesbian or bisexual partner comes out, a third of the

913
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: couples break up. Immediately. Yeah, that would be me. I'm

914
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: out of there. Another third stay together for one to

915
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: two years and then split. The remaining third try to

916
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: make their marriages work. Of these, half of these half

917
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: split up while the other halfs stay together for three

918
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: or more years, so they try to work it out.

919
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: I just think that that is not something I think

920
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: that can be worked out. I think ultimately, people in

921
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: their relationships like you, Chris, Chris, Chris Jenner and Caitlin

922
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: like they are still friends. They're still friends. They like

923
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: I can't compete with that, and that's that's all I

924
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: could be with you is your friend that.

925
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think Actually, let's say being Let's say

926
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: I get with someone tomorrow and here I am fifty

927
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: four now and he says, hey, I love you. I

928
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: don't want us to split up, but I have this

929
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: desire that I've never acted on, and we're getting older

930
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: and I just want to experience this. And he's done

931
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: all the things that he's loved me. Fully, would I

932
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: be able to just walk away because he wanted to

933
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: experience a man? Yes? I would. I thought about it

934
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: for a second. Yes I would, Yes, I would. And

935
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't want like, I just listened to myself, and

936
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: I know I don't want any gay men or bisexual

937
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: men to be offended by what I'm saying, because it's

938
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: not a hatred, and we're allowed to have preference, and

939
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: it's not a judgment on anything y'all do. It's just

940
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: my preference on what I desire for my partner, and

941
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: I just don't want my partner to also enjoy dick.

942
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: That wrong, Absolutely not.

943
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: And I feel like if people would, you know, work

944
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: on themselves first before they get into relationships anyway, you know,

945
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: and you can come in the situation as your whole

946
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: self and give people all information upfront so they know

947
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: what they're dealing with, Like, give me the opportunity to

948
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: determine whether or not, you know, after I got all information, right,

949
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: I can make a sound decision based on this information.

950
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: But do not put my life in your hand.

951
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: What if you get with a nigga who don't want

952
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: to fuck with men, but he wants you to do

953
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: some seemingly homosexual things to him, like pagan or something

954
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: like that.

955
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: Some women like pagan men. I don't want a man

956
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: who likes getting pegged. I'm sorry, I'm not that but

957
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: that's not a kink of mine. Listen. I have definitely

958
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: put a finger in a couple butts, but if a

959
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: man actually wants me to strap up, I don't feel

960
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: comfortable doing that to him. I don't. And you know

961
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: I say this a lot, but I think there's a

962
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: lot more men that are gay in the mind than

963
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: have actually had sex with a man. Like they think

964
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: about it often, but they may never ever act on it.

965
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: Do you consider that I don't. I mean, you can't

966
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: consider them gay right because they've never actually engaged in

967
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the act of But those could be the people that,

968
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, fifty years old come out like, man, I

969
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: want to do it now.

970
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: What was that show, It's Black Mirror where they had

971
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: the episode of the two Homeboys. They had that virtual

972
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: reality game and they.

973
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: But it still was a woman in there. And remember

974
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: on the one scene they kiss to see if something

975
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: like the two actual men in reality kiss.

976
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was like right, and that ain't it?

977
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: They only wanted to have virtual Well.

978
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: One of them was like mm mmm, that ain't it.

979
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: I feel like both of them didn't really like each other.

980
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: The married guy was like that ain't it. The other guy,

981
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I think he liked him in real life like two men,

982
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: because remember the the married guy was the male in

983
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: the virtual reality, his homeboy was the female. That's how

984
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: the whole shit started.

985
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: But they were having like the most the best, most

986
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: passionate experience virtually and in real life.

987
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: That's just.

988
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: And she let him do it once a year, like

989
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: and it was over like his birthday. He could log

990
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: into the game and knock his homeboy down.

991
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: So all year long, you just waiting for this, this

992
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: is your moment. And she boyfriend didn't have nobody, I mean,

993
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: the homeboy didn't happen.

994
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: And then she got to go out and sheet on

995
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: him though, like did she Yeah, she got to go

996
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: out and get real dick. So that was the trade off.

997
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was the trade off.

998
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I didn't I miss that part.

999
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: That was the trade off. Which one is worse though,

1000
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: because he's not even really sexually experiencing anybody. It's just

1001
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: like a simulation where she really going to get knocked down,

1002
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: which one is Uh.

1003
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: I think that the virtual it's just it's that's really mental.

1004
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really mental.

1005
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: Like, yes, the dick live dick is is physical.

1006
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you can't catch I ain't never

1007
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: heard of AI std.

1008
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: AI baby. It's a disease of the mind.

1009
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: That's why it ain't no AI babies out there.

1010
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: So there is ye'all all right, So we're about to

1011
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: wrap this up. But this last little piece, it says

1012
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: things to do and not to do, like, if you

1013
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: find out your spouse or significant other wants to dave okay, uh,

1014
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: decide what what what you both can and cannot live with.

1015
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: I can't live with it. Accept that it takes both

1016
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: of you to make a marriage just as do Just

1017
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: as any situation where there is possible infidelity, get checked

1018
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: immediately for sexually transmitted infections, rather or not your partner

1019
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: admits to any sexual infidelity. Take care of yourself as

1020
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: you go through the grieving process. Your relationship has changed,

1021
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: try to accept the reality and move forward. And the

1022
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: last one says, do be careful about how you tell

1023
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: your children. You may need professional guidance to deal with this.

1024
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: It's important for them to love, for them to feel

1025
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: loved and secure, and to know they're not responsible for

1026
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: the state of the marriage or relationship. And then it says,

1027
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: don't isolate yourself, seek support or professional help. Don't assume

1028
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: that your marriage is over. Some straight slash gay marriages

1029
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: are happy unions. However, studies show that out of fifteen

1030
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: percent of couples who try to make it work, only

1031
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: about seven percent make it over the long term. Yourself

1032
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: for turning your partner gay. No one can turn someone

1033
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: else gay, and I think men blame that. I just

1034
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: can't hear a man saying it's your you the reason

1035
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: why I'm gay. I can hear that happening because even

1036
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: when they dick stop working, they want to blame us, like, oh,

1037
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: you're not arousing me no more. No, accept the fact

1038
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: that you might possibly have ed and go get the help.

1039
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Don't blame your woman for the penis not working anymore,

1040
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: like you're just not attracted to her anymore. Yeah, I

1041
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: know that this has happened to really girl. Depending on

1042
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: what type of person you're dealing with, nothing is ever.

1043
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Their fault, even they did nothing.

1044
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh, it's your fault. I'm just not attracted to you.

1045
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: No, you have ed, like, but maybe if it's getting

1046
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 2: up with somebody else, then it might not. It might

1047
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: be an issue between the twos. Well, it could be

1048
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: very possible.

1049
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: Anyway, you got a last last for this child.

1050
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Listen, if y'all don't want never mind, I just ain't

1051
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: got time for the hate mail. I just ain't got

1052
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 2: time for the hate mail. My last last is love

1053
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: who you love. Love is a beautiful thing, and love

1054
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 2: who you live. No, I ain't got time for that ship. Listen,

1055
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: people be rinking me over the colds after I say something.

1056
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: So I just love who you love. Used to love

1057
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: who you love. Goddamn, I'm used to it.

1058
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: So my last last would be not love who you love,

1059
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: be yourself. So who is gonna love? You can find you.

1060
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: There are women out here who are okay with bisexual men.

1061
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: You see Kendrick g. She does her little dating show

1062
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: on Instagram, And there's a lot of enough, specifically from

1063
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: Atlanta in in DC area. There are a lot of

1064
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: men who be honest, like I'm looking for a man

1065
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: or a woman like I do both, or I used

1066
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: to be with men and now I'm looking for a

1067
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: woman now. My only thing is, don't come over here

1068
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: trying to trauma dump the shit you've had going on

1069
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: with these men into my womb, Like I got a

1070
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: problem with that.

1071
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: So basically, you saying love yourself and love who you love.

1072
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, love yourself, so no, love yourself so you can

1073
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: be loved, is what I'm saying. So somebody can love

1074
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: you holy exactly who you are. You gotta be honest

1075
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: with yourself first. Don't come over here with that bullshit

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Speaker 1: and let me choose. Let the women choose, let the

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Speaker 1: men choose what they want to deal with. That's all,

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Speaker 1: you know. I just be honest with yourself. Yeah, find

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Speaker 1: some do some soul searching, and find some self awareness

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Speaker 1: before you start engaging with other human beings on any

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Speaker 1: level and any type of relationship and any sexual orientation. Right,

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Speaker 1: and if you love dick, figure out.

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Speaker 2: I don't care Tam love you anyway.

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Speaker 1: I don't not love people. I mean, but they it's

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Speaker 1: not like my it's not my job. You need to

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Speaker 1: love yourself.

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Speaker 2: I love people, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Me telling you I love you every day is knock

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Speaker 1: on to make you love yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, but some people don't hear it from nobody else,

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Speaker 2: so they get to hear from me if they listen

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Speaker 2: every week. That's how I feel like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah baby? All right, y'all listen if you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode, y'all Tune in every Thursday on the

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Speaker 1: Black Effect podcast, iHeartRadio app, wherever the fuck you get

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Speaker 1: Holiday twin Oh. On Instagrams kick a Tam.

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Speaker 2: You ain't say follow me now. If you want to

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Speaker 2: get on you always say that Yeah that part too.

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Speaker 2: Y'all's official on Instagram, I Love y'all. Remember to speak

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Speaker 2: now and never.

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Speaker 1: Hold you what hold your sexual or never holding This

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