Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefronts. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Christophinee and Hazel and this is the Keep It Positive
Speaker 1: Sweetie Show. Welcome to another episode of The Keep It
Speaker 1: Positive Sweeties Show, a safe space where we heal, love
Speaker 1: and grow together. I'm your host Christophinee Hazel, and I'm
Speaker 1: super excited about this episode because I get to talk
Speaker 1: to one of my new favorite people, Lee Vassie. Lee
Speaker 1: is a triple threat singer, songwriter, and actress who is
Speaker 1: shattering genre barriers with her unique blend of Christian and
Speaker 1: R and B music. The incredibly talented singer songwriter actress
Speaker 1: Lee Vassi hails from Faetteville, North Carolina, beginning her career
Speaker 1: in entertainment at the age of nine years old on
Speaker 1: Broadway as Young Nalla and the Lion King. Lee has
Speaker 1: since released multiple singles, making her one of Christian music's
Speaker 1: most exciting new stars, and Amazon Music naming her as
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Artists to Watch Guys. I am
Speaker 1: so excited she's here. Welcome Lee, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having you.
Speaker 1: Look beautiful.
Speaker 2: I feel great. How you feeling, I'm good?
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah. It has been a long week. We
Speaker 1: just finished your fashion week? Yes, that was my first one.
Speaker 1: Was that your first one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my first one.
Speaker 1: Girl. When I say exhausting, girl's not built that.
Speaker 2: I got to get back at there. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We really had to, like, like the same way you
Speaker 1: get ready for tour. I feel like you had to
Speaker 1: be prepared for fashion because it is a marathon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a whole production. Rachel. I loved it.
Speaker 1: How was your first experience?
Speaker 4: You know it was it was full of surprises. I
Speaker 4: had no expectations, but it was great. I got to
Speaker 4: meet people like you and it was awesome. I'll definitely
Speaker 4: do it again, is yours?
Speaker 1: It was amazing. But the first day we got there,
Speaker 1: Delta lost my luggage. So yes, all my day one
Speaker 1: looks were left in Atlanta. No, yes, you should have
Speaker 1: seen this girl. We were literally a shan and I
Speaker 1: we landed and the guy came out and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm only seeing six bags and we were like, well
Speaker 1: there was definitely seven. And so as we're we like,
Speaker 1: we we're running close on time cause I had press
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta for BT, so I hot on a
Speaker 1: plane on had like maybe three hours before Sergio Hudson's show.
Speaker 1: Got in the car. I was like, we s we
Speaker 1: have to head towards the hotel. So I I'm literally
Speaker 1: in the back of on top of suitcases, unzipping to
Speaker 1: see what made it cause I didn't know what my
Speaker 1: silence or my assistant Herman had put into each suitcase,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's not in here. We opened it,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not in here. I was like,
Speaker 1: we got one more and then if not, we gotta
Speaker 1: figure this out. So the pivot is it's powerful and
Speaker 1: we Shan ended up calling a girl at burgdor from
Speaker 1: Sergio hudsd and we went. She literally threw it in
Speaker 1: the car as we were driving past Burgdorf held it
Speaker 1: to the hotel to get ready. Ah.
Speaker 4: I love the d honestly, I love the drama of
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you can't beat a good memory.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, thank you. So yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I've met a lot
Speaker 1: of amazing people like you, Like this is my first
Speaker 1: time meeting you. I was first introduced to your music
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Okay, we had a bar moment with GPS,
Speaker 1: which I absolutely love that song. I feel like everybody
Speaker 1: was posting and I was like, Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: love this girl. And then when someone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's one of my clients, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I was super excited to meet and happy that you
Speaker 1: are on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I want to know more about you because it's our
Speaker 1: first real chit chat, because everything in New York was
Speaker 1: like so like hey girl, hey girl, but I won't
Speaker 1: really learn more about you and your journey. So you're
Speaker 1: from Faybville, North Carolina, I am Yeah. How was that
Speaker 1: growing up? Isn't that where Jake Color is from?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm a huge like j cole fan, definitely
Speaker 4: was hometown here growing up. But yeah, originally from North Carolina,
Speaker 4: but also kind of spent a lot of time in
Speaker 4: New York as a kid, chasing my dreams and you know,
Speaker 4: doing things.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I'm from Faybville.
Speaker 1: And then you did Broadway. I did in New York.
Speaker 2: I was nine.
Speaker 4: I was nine when I booked it, and I did
Speaker 4: it until I was eleven.
Speaker 1: And was Nala your first was that your first role?
Speaker 4: It was my first professional role, but I was definitely
Speaker 4: theater kid growing up. I started performing with my siblings
Speaker 4: actually at the local theater when I was seven, and
Speaker 4: my brother actually used to get me ready for auditions.
Speaker 2: Oh and he actually found.
Speaker 4: The Lion King audition and I ended up booking it
Speaker 4: off an open call. I didn't have an agent or
Speaker 4: anything at that time, and so yeah, pretty quickly it
Speaker 4: turned into you know, my career and when I.
Speaker 1: Was pursuing so and I'm always interested like what is
Speaker 1: it as a child, because I know Broadway can be
Speaker 1: a very rigorous schedule, demanding, and it's not as glamorous
Speaker 1: as people think it. Right, you get the TV and film,
Speaker 1: you have hair styles and makeup artists and you're just
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there learning your lines. And it's still
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work. But with Broadway you have
Speaker 1: to do everything. It's not like you don't have like
Speaker 1: the team of people. How was that at a very
Speaker 1: young age?
Speaker 4: Well, so I actually did have hair and makeup. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's your way, because it's also very intricate makeup and hair,
Speaker 4: like they attach a thing to your hair, like it's
Speaker 4: this whole thing for young nallas. So I did have
Speaker 4: a great makeup and hair team and dressers and everything.
Speaker 2: So you know, I love the production of theater.
Speaker 4: I love you know, the pace of it, and you
Speaker 4: have to be on it's live, it's you know, eight
Speaker 4: shows a week.
Speaker 1: So so Tyler, he comes from the theater world, so
Speaker 1: I understand, like we have one shot to get the take.
Speaker 1: What is that pressure like day in and day out,
Speaker 1: known that you're performing from the live audience and you
Speaker 1: gotta get it right in that one shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, so I think something that I really love about
Speaker 4: theater is the preparation that's required because you're doing the
Speaker 4: same show every night, right, and so you get to
Speaker 4: a point where it's kind of in your muscle memory.
Speaker 4: Obviously you have to improv, and you know there's different
Speaker 4: things that come up every night, you know, maybe.
Speaker 2: A technical difficulty or what have you.
Speaker 4: But it really just kind of lives in your in
Speaker 4: your body at a certain point. And so for me,
Speaker 4: especially as a kid, it really wasn't pressure because I
Speaker 4: just felt so prepared and I loved it, you know,
Speaker 4: I was really just having so much fun.
Speaker 1: What was like, can you remember what was a moment
Speaker 1: where it was like whoa, Like you had your first
Speaker 1: technical difficulty or you had to improv where you were
Speaker 1: you kind of like what's happening? Did you kind of
Speaker 1: have to learn like how to pivot or was that
Speaker 1: something that just came naturally.
Speaker 4: So, actually, the first technical difficulty I had was not
Speaker 4: in The Lion King.
Speaker 2: It was when it was in my first show.
Speaker 4: I did The Wizard of Oz Wow and one yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: well in my local theater. So that was my first
Speaker 4: show and I was a munchkin, and you know, we
Speaker 4: were wearing these huge uh you know, munchkin land shoes
Speaker 4: and myne one of mine came off in the middle
Speaker 4: of us, like ring around the rosy situation, and my
Speaker 4: sister was also in the show with me, and my
Speaker 4: sister kind of just kicked the shoe off off stage
Speaker 4: and so uh and I was just so happy to
Speaker 4: have my sister there for me in that moment because
Speaker 4: that was my first time.
Speaker 2: I was seven.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do, but you know, you
Speaker 4: keep going, you keep rolling with it. So yeah, so
Speaker 4: that that definitely was like a core memory for me
Speaker 4: to just keep swimming, you know, see him going going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a moment like that my first pageant.
Speaker 1: I wasn't as young as you. I was probably like
Speaker 1: thirteen and I did my first pageant and I was
Speaker 1: such a time boy growing up. Okay, but you know
Speaker 1: how like they do like the parade where all the
Speaker 1: girls walk out, all the contestants, and I literally lost
Speaker 1: my shoe and I had to like stand on the
Speaker 1: hip like on my TV toes on one foot and
Speaker 1: had to keep going and make it work. My friend
Speaker 1: she was behind me, and she kicked the shoe out
Speaker 1: of the way, like similar to yours. So that is funny.
Speaker 1: But that's good that you had the wherewithal I just
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's life, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is something you can literally take with
Speaker 1: you for the rest of your life. Just keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that you ended up. How long did you
Speaker 1: continue this pursuing this career as you got older?
Speaker 2: I kind of like never stopped. I just shifted my focus.
Speaker 4: So when I was in the Lion King, I became
Speaker 4: interested in songwriting, okay, and I was like a huge
Speaker 4: like music nerd since before I can remember.
Speaker 2: And so I used to watch all the MTV.
Speaker 4: VH one like behind the you know music, like those
Speaker 4: kind of episodes, and I'm a huge Maria carry fan.
Speaker 4: I was really big on Neo growing up too, and
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, they're songwriters, so I need to
Speaker 4: learn how to write songs. And so I asked for
Speaker 4: a guitar for my tenth birthday and I got one
Speaker 4: and I started writing songs on my guitar when I
Speaker 4: was ten, and so that kind of opened the door
Speaker 4: for me really just thinking about music is what I
Speaker 4: wanted to pursue, because before, you know, I was really young,
Speaker 4: so you know, the world was kind of my oyster
Speaker 4: and I was like, I could do theater, I can
Speaker 4: do movies, and you know, music.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do all of it and still do
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but I really started.
Speaker 4: Focusing on music when I was sixteen, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is this is the one thing I'm going to
Speaker 4: focus on for now before I branch out, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's dope. You talked about how once
Speaker 1: you got a little older you took a hiatus from everything.
Speaker 1: What prompted that ship to be like I need to
Speaker 1: take a beat.
Speaker 4: Life just started life in and I didn't know how
Speaker 4: to manage it right. And I think that because I
Speaker 4: was so young in this constant pursuit right of my
Speaker 4: goals and of these visions that God had really shown
Speaker 4: me about what my life would look like. You know,
Speaker 4: I got kind of lost in that at a point,
Speaker 4: and you know, God didn't show me all the mess No,
Speaker 4: I haven't, right, And so you know, I was at
Speaker 4: a really tough place with my mental health.
Speaker 2: I kind of was ending up.
Speaker 4: In toxic relationship after toxic relationship. You know, things got
Speaker 4: tough in my career and I just didn't really know
Speaker 4: what was next.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I was kind of on this.
Speaker 4: Downward spiral that I couldn't see the end of how
Speaker 4: to stop it, you know, And so I had to
Speaker 4: like make a decision to take a beat. And it
Speaker 4: was tough to kind of come to that place of like,
Speaker 4: you know what, this isn't working out.
Speaker 2: But but God used it. And so yeah, there was
Speaker 2: a just kind of like a whirlwind just.
Speaker 1: Mess demon sharing because I liked for our audience to
Speaker 1: see that, like, we are just like them. A lot
Speaker 1: of times they see us in the spotlight and things, Oh,
Speaker 1: they don't go through anything. Are you comfortable to sharing
Speaker 1: anything that you were going through that moment that may
Speaker 1: help someone else?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was really just a combination of honestly
Speaker 4: like being naive I was young really like when I
Speaker 4: was when I went to college, is when everything kind
Speaker 4: of just fell apart, you know. And and I think
Speaker 4: that I also in the midst of all of these things,
Speaker 4: you know, happening in my family life, like things you
Speaker 4: know that were really traumatic happening in my family, and
Speaker 4: then me you know, falling in love for the first
Speaker 4: time in my life and maybe falling in love with
Speaker 4: the really wrong people to fall in love with.
Speaker 2: You know. I was just I didn't.
Speaker 4: Have the tools spiritually to like understand that what I
Speaker 4: was going through with spiritual warfare and and and I
Speaker 4: needed help with it. And I was at an age
Speaker 4: where I thought I knew everything and nobody can tell
Speaker 4: me nothing.
Speaker 2: You know, girl.
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I got it, like don't huh.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so there were.
Speaker 4: There was there were some tragedies that happened in my
Speaker 4: family that I kind of leaned into partying to try
Speaker 4: to figure out how to cope with. And then that, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, the world that I was in led to
Speaker 4: some really toxic and abusive relationships and it just became
Speaker 4: a cycle and it started to kind of normalize in
Speaker 4: my life, and I was like, okay, like this is
Speaker 4: just being grown, you know, right, And you know I
Speaker 4: kind of accepted that as truth until I just couldn't
Speaker 4: accept it anymore.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So my question, did you have like an upbringing where
Speaker 1: you're you're raising a church where you because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, like for me, I was raising a church.
Speaker 1: My mother was a pastor. We were there every time
Speaker 1: the doors of the church opened. Got to college and
Speaker 1: I was buck wild, like rebelled, you know, I was
Speaker 1: the prodigal daughter, okay, you know, and I literally like
Speaker 1: same thing, partying, drinking. When I got to college with
Speaker 1: the wrong guys. You know, it was just like down
Speaker 1: this path of destruction. Was there a moment in your
Speaker 1: childhood where you had something to reach back to, knowing
Speaker 1: like I got to get back to the foundation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my parents definitely gave me that foundation. We weren't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't a church girl, you know, like we would
Speaker 4: kind of be in and out of church at different
Speaker 4: times growing up. But when I was fourteen, I did
Speaker 4: do the alter call at a Bible study and I
Speaker 4: gave my life to Christ. But I did it kind
Speaker 4: of out of fear because I didn't want to go
Speaker 4: to Hell.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. You know.
Speaker 4: I didn't do it because I really like understood who
Speaker 4: Jesus is, or like even maybe at that point even
Speaker 4: really cared to know who Jesus is. But I just
Speaker 4: didn't want to go to Hell. And so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this alter call. I'm gonna be saved,
Speaker 4: and that's cool. But I, you know, then went into
Speaker 4: high school and went into college and wavered.
Speaker 2: And as a kid, I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't say I wouldn't say that anything kept me restricted.
Speaker 2: But me, I was so focused as a kid.
Speaker 3: And so rigid towards myself, had a lot of.
Speaker 4: Negative self talk because I was so just goal oriented
Speaker 4: and I didn't I didn't party in high school. I
Speaker 4: didn't have a huge social circle, like I was just
Speaker 4: at the house.
Speaker 3: I would go to school and go home and songwrite
Speaker 3: and that was it, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I think for me, then when I got
Speaker 4: to college, I was like, okay, well I did the
Speaker 4: thing like I'm you know, I'm back in New York,
Speaker 4: and I'm you know, pursuing what I want to be pursuing,
Speaker 4: you know, And and and I went a little I
Speaker 4: went wild, you know. And it wasn't because of necessarily
Speaker 4: a rebellion from the church, but I think I was
Speaker 4: rebelling against like myself. Yeah, Like I was tired of
Speaker 4: being so structured and I wanted to know what it
Speaker 4: felt like to just kind of like be free, I feel,
Speaker 4: you know, and ended up thinking that all of these
Speaker 4: things that were keeping me free or making me free,
Speaker 4: I came to realize these are actually.
Speaker 3: Bondage, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I do thank my parents that they gave
Speaker 4: me the foundation of Jesus, you know, because then a
Speaker 4: couple of years later, when I was like I need
Speaker 4: to just completely.
Speaker 2: Reset and deconstruct or reconstruct, who I ran to was Jesus.
Speaker 4: And at that point that's when I figured out what
Speaker 4: a relationship with the Lord is and who the Lord is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, people often think that a relationship with Jesus
Speaker 1: is just so cookie cutter, and it is far from that.
Speaker 1: It is ever evolving. Is that like when they say
Speaker 1: the daily bread, it is literally like you die daily
Speaker 1: and wake up for it. It's literally like every day
Speaker 1: every day. And there's seasons where you go through spiritual warfare.
Speaker 1: There are seasons where you're really locked in there are
Speaker 1: seasons where you're knocked off your rocker. And for me,
Speaker 1: I know I can. I've been very vocal about my
Speaker 1: walk and sometimes Christians aren't the easiest to be open with.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, God knows the truth, So
Speaker 1: why am I gonna fake it for y'all? No, And
Speaker 1: I was very honest about moments where I backslid, you know,
Speaker 1: And now I'm on the path where I'm really, really
Speaker 1: in tune and intimate and really pursuing that int relationship
Speaker 1: with God. And some people just don't get it. They're
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I had somebody ask me, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've been doing it, like like why now?
Speaker 1: Like why would you just stop doing I'm like, because
Speaker 1: the Bible says like once you realize you're going, don't
Speaker 1: you turn away from that? You don't keep going down
Speaker 1: the path of destruction? Like what sense does that make?
Speaker 1: And I feel like where we are now just the
Speaker 1: state of the world. I feel like God is pulling
Speaker 1: his children near and pulling his clothes. Have you noticed that?
Speaker 1: Like every conversation you have for me, every conversation I've
Speaker 1: had since the beginning of twenty twenty five, Jesus has
Speaker 1: come up at some point, like it just ran like
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really kind of stay away
Speaker 1: from the topic of God and don't really want to
Speaker 1: like step on any feet or like rough any feathers.
Speaker 1: But I feel like everyone he's like tugging on everyone.
Speaker 1: And the other night we had like this really bad
Speaker 1: storm and I literally thought God was back. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, Lord is right. I was like yes,
Speaker 1: like and I was like, why am I scared? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it was such an high moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, girl, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be scared. I want to be like, thank you, come on,
Speaker 1: wrap me up, let's go. Like I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, oh my God. And
Speaker 1: I recently just like God had been convinced me on sex.
Speaker 1: And as I was reading, I just talked. I posted
Speaker 1: something the other day about every time I read the
Speaker 1: Bible sexual immorality was just like literally jump off page.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Lord, I get it. Yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: when that happened, and I was thinking about the next
Speaker 1: day after the storm, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be somewhere where my legs caught back and
Speaker 1: God come down? Can you imagine? And then be like
Speaker 1: hold on Lord? Right, No, you keep that same energy
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't want like it was real. It's like when
Speaker 1: you put into that perspective because like my parents were like,
Speaker 1: think about it, like when God comes back, what do
Speaker 1: you want to be doing? And it's not until this
Speaker 1: big age where I was like taking it. What do
Speaker 1: I want to be caught doing? Like people don't think
Speaker 1: about it, like I feel you. When that thunder roar
Speaker 1: the other night, I said, oh no, he is he here?
Speaker 1: I was like, legit scared and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be scared. I don't want to be like let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't need no bags. I'm ready, you know, like
Speaker 1: I want to be ready. So yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had those moments where I like wavered and
Speaker 1: just it's it's ever evolving. Yeah, And I wish people
Speaker 1: understood that, you know, because it's not perfect, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't expect us to be perfect exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has grace for it. Yeah, right, he has
Speaker 4: expectations of us. He has his children, like he doesn't
Speaker 4: want us to live righteously, but I think that as
Speaker 4: I've come to know the Lord for myself more, it's
Speaker 4: like he wants us to live righteously because he loves
Speaker 4: us so much and is trying to protect us from
Speaker 4: all of these things, you.
Speaker 5: Know, like that we think.
Speaker 2: Like how I used to like this is where my
Speaker 2: liberation is.
Speaker 1: No, that's your bondage, baby girl, that's the bondage.
Speaker 2: And he gives us.
Speaker 4: These you know, uh, these these commandments right not to
Speaker 4: restrict us, but to protect us and to prepare us
Speaker 4: for when he comes back, and also to like live
Speaker 4: well while we're here.
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: We're talking, but.
Speaker 2: I feel you.
Speaker 4: I've been there, like literally with sex, also with alcohol.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, so that's the next thing he working on me,
Speaker 1: you girl, girl. I took a sip of some wine
Speaker 1: the other day, and when I tell you that sharp
Speaker 1: pain went up to my head. I said, what was that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like my little wine. Now you can't take everything away.
Speaker 4: From me, right, Well, so for me, like I was,
Speaker 4: I was using alcohol as a cry, yeah, and I
Speaker 4: was using it as a number, you know. And I
Speaker 4: think also just kind of you know, I was introduced
Speaker 4: to alcohol like when I went to college was it
Speaker 4: was it was binge drinking, like it wasn't just like
Speaker 4: a cute little glass of wine in there, right, And
Speaker 4: the Bible is really specific about.
Speaker 1: Like drunkenness, and you have to find that balance, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I really don't think there's anything wrong with drinking.
Speaker 1: It's just the consumption and being responsible. Because there again,
Speaker 1: that's a boundary that he put in place to what
Speaker 1: protect us. You know, if people follow that, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: have the car wrecks and that people getting killed from
Speaker 1: junk driving or even the diseases that come from.
Speaker 4: That, and just like being unfocused and the choices you
Speaker 4: made right.
Speaker 3: And the regret and the shame, Like ID don't want
Speaker 3: us to live like that.
Speaker 4: He does us to be like comfy and have a
Speaker 4: good day and not think about what we did last night.
Speaker 2: And you know, and so I experienced connection with that.
Speaker 1: How are you on with that now? Because we just
Speaker 1: think about like we we teetered the line of like
Speaker 1: cold and Christianity. We're around it, but we're not consuming it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I feel like my
Speaker 1: church we call like what is your street that God
Speaker 1: has pitching on? Like our street is the street of
Speaker 1: arts and entertainment, where we take God's life into those
Speaker 1: spaces where he's normally not talked about. But like, do
Speaker 1: you ever feel like when we're like out in the
Speaker 1: clubs and so, like you got to go to these
Speaker 1: places and meet these people to build these relationships, does
Speaker 1: your spirit ever feel convicted?
Speaker 2: So I don't drink anymore.
Speaker 1: You cut it out.
Speaker 2: I stopped.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: I stopped.
Speaker 4: And it's God's grace because so what what God actually did?
Speaker 4: Because he knows me and I'm still I still gotta
Speaker 4: work on being a little stubborn. But so God put
Speaker 4: me on a TV fast in three he was like,
Speaker 4: and we had gone to church and the pastor was like,
Speaker 4: asked the Lord to reveal to you, like things that
Speaker 4: are that are that you're keeping in your life, that
Speaker 4: are keeping you from what.
Speaker 2: He has for you. And this was right before I started.
Speaker 4: To release my Christian r and b wow, And I
Speaker 4: asked the Lord, you know what that thing was for me?
Speaker 4: And he told me TV, like you watching too much TV.
Speaker 4: Stop watching TV for twenty one days, right, only consume
Speaker 4: like Christian podcasts or Christian content. Yeah, And so so
Speaker 4: I stopped. I stopped watching the TV and started watching
Speaker 4: Christian podcasts. And I'm watching Christian podcasts and I would
Speaker 4: get my you know, drink watch these Christian podcasts and.
Speaker 1: You know, like, that's not what I told you to do, right.
Speaker 4: But because God knows how to talk to me, right,
Speaker 4: It's like, because He I had taken all the distraction
Speaker 4: out from all these other sources and I was only
Speaker 4: taking in content that was reminding me of Him. Naturally,
Speaker 4: my spirit started to be convicted right and naturally, oh,
Speaker 4: after twenty one days like that habit started to become
Speaker 4: a thing that I recognized was keeping me from Him, right,
Speaker 4: And it's a personal conviction thing, right for everybody has
Speaker 4: to go on their journey with it.
Speaker 2: But so I stopped drinking alcohol in.
Speaker 4: September of twenty twenty three, and I watched my life change.
Speaker 1: That is beautiful and.
Speaker 4: The biggest, the biggest thing of it for me has
Speaker 4: been just focused right, like God knew. And it's so
Speaker 4: funny because the pastor's question was about, like, what is
Speaker 4: there that's keeping you from what.
Speaker 2: God has for you?
Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know what God had for me on
Speaker 4: the other side of that obedience, but I just did
Speaker 4: it and I watched, I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, crazy, you know how like when you literally surrendered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like before your eyes you're like, oh, I was
Speaker 1: just telling what was the other day? I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I said, ever since I like surrendered sex to God,
Speaker 1: Like literally I see doors, doors that were shut. It's
Speaker 1: just like now it's multiple options. Like I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: that's how that's how he works. Yeah, it's crazy. And
Speaker 1: wait until you experienced it, you don't really understand it.
Speaker 1: But you're right, you don't know what's on the other
Speaker 1: side of that, of the obedience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so now you know.
Speaker 4: And I did wonder like I was like, Okay, how
Speaker 4: am I gonna you know, how like who am I
Speaker 4: out without drinking?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Because I started to become a young adult and be
Speaker 4: the version of myself that I knew like drinking, right,
Speaker 4: I was like, so, who am if I don't drink?
Speaker 4: Do I can I still go out? Can I you know,
Speaker 4: go to events or you know? And I really did
Speaker 4: have a season where it was just really quiet in
Speaker 4: my life and it was really just like going home,
Speaker 4: doing by work and talking to God, you know, and
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I could I could have the self
Speaker 4: control or the discernment, you know, to to keep up
Speaker 4: what God had called me to and so but now
Speaker 4: I can right like now, it's not a temptation for me,
Speaker 4: you know, and it is something that I'm seeing, like
Speaker 4: what it means to.
Speaker 2: Grow in the fruits of the spirit.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I'm like, oh wow, like I don't I'm
Speaker 4: actually not tempted in this space in a place where
Speaker 4: I thought I had to become a shell of myself
Speaker 4: or a hermit.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, because he wants he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Want exactly exactly. And I love like, girl, I'll go
Speaker 2: get a good macktail. I love me a good macktail.
Speaker 2: I love a little vesty macktail, you know.
Speaker 4: You know, like you can't still go live your life
Speaker 4: and you know, and have fun and just represent him
Speaker 4: wherever you go.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's yes, that's it. I think that's the part
Speaker 1: that we miss. I used to always say. People think
Speaker 1: being a Christian is born. It's not, you know. And
Speaker 1: when you really follow him, you can still have a
Speaker 1: sense of humor, a clean sense of humor, you know,
Speaker 1: And there's ways to do it where He's still like
Speaker 1: that is honible my side, you good, you know, and
Speaker 1: the ways for us to spread his word and his life,
Speaker 1: you know. And I remember like last year I was
Speaker 1: going through like a really big season of spiritual warfare
Speaker 1: where people close to me who had like this really
Speaker 1: good relationship with God it literally would irk me because
Speaker 1: like I'm like, yes, I believe in Him, Yes, but
Speaker 1: you're doing too much, you know, like calm down, like
Speaker 1: everything got to be Jesus, Jesus, jes Jesus, Jesus. And
Speaker 1: in this season on life, I'm realizing that was the devil.
Speaker 1: He was literally like he knew what God was trying
Speaker 1: to work in me. And I was like, no, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, tetering that line and entertainment,
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out where I fit in and
Speaker 1: how does this work and how do I keep everything
Speaker 1: going but not lose myself? And guys like, you're not
Speaker 1: going to lose yourself if you would me, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's where the authentic true you comes out. Come
Speaker 1: on ding ding ding Ding.
Speaker 2: I was really going to say that.
Speaker 4: I was like, because you who you are and him
Speaker 4: is the real youth, yes, right, and we think that
Speaker 4: when we go to him that we're gonna well, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: we do lose ourselves, but we're supposed.
Speaker 3: To because of like the self that you're losing. It's
Speaker 3: not you, it's not you.
Speaker 2: And he wants so much more for you.
Speaker 3: On the other side walking with him, you know, I
Speaker 3: love that for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's it's so much more peaceful, even with music,
Speaker 1: Like I did want to evolve this past summer, and
Speaker 1: even in that moment, I was still like struggling because
Speaker 1: that's I had just done the crazy episode and I
Speaker 1: talked about He's like I saw where you weren't having
Speaker 1: safety for a marriage and I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a season of my life. But not being mature,
Speaker 1: I was still on some milk at that time. To
Speaker 1: the Philip mcna, I was like, I said, that was
Speaker 1: a season. And when that this, i'mna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I thought that, like, okay, God, I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: your way. I've been doing it my way all my life.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it your way. And I just knew
Speaker 1: my testimony was gonna be y'all. I did it guys
Speaker 1: like I gotta ring, okay, and that did not happen.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so I'm sacrificing my flesh and
Speaker 1: what I really want, and I didn't get what I wanted,
Speaker 1: so I went back dumb. I went back to my
Speaker 1: old ways, and it was a cycle of still heartbreak
Speaker 1: and everything. And I realized, like when I was open
Speaker 1: about that, the Christian fans of his podcast literally like
Speaker 1: crucified me for being honest about my transgressions and like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where I was, and it
Speaker 1: was like an attack, and I'm like, so y'all been
Speaker 1: perfect your whole life, Like y'all see, I'm trying, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm just being honest about my shortcomings. And at
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, I'm not doing any other podcast,
Speaker 1: and I actually cried on stage. A woman evolved telling it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just didn't want to talk about
Speaker 1: God anymore because and then because I knew I was
Speaker 1: still doing things that weren't pleasing in his sight, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to feel like a hypocrite, you know. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I just let's not talk about I
Speaker 1: want to have fun. Like you look at the podcast
Speaker 1: that have millions of views. They got the alcohol on
Speaker 1: the set, they're cussing and they having fun, and it's
Speaker 1: like you get kind of blindsided, like what's working? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, The numbers ain't numbering, Like okay,
Speaker 1: so I need to go do this, and like God
Speaker 1: had to work. I mean, like, Noah, baby girl, that
Speaker 1: ain't that? Ain't he trying to run for me? And
Speaker 1: I noticed like in the season as we started filming
Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, we want to switch I
Speaker 1: want to switch it up on any more fun. You
Speaker 1: say that a little risk cake, And every episode here
Speaker 1: come Jesus working his way in.
Speaker 2: I said, you do it.
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. Yeah, you are not letting
Speaker 1: me run from you. Okay, let me stop, you know,
Speaker 1: not a runner like that anyway, let me sit down.
Speaker 1: But it was in those moments where I was like,
Speaker 1: God showed me what you want me to do with
Speaker 1: this platform because I'm trying it. I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: what I see his working and not reinvent the wheel,
Speaker 1: but give me the will that you want me to run,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think now I'm finding that. And
Speaker 1: even with my music. I was telling Wes, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, after that, I was so convicted. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't curse in my music, like and I was
Speaker 1: talking to my friend Pastor Brenda we call it BP.
Speaker 1: We call her past peep uh be p because I
Speaker 1: has been in power, but I call her pastor Brenda
Speaker 1: Treet hate it. And I was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: was like just trying to figure out what to do
Speaker 1: my music. And she's like Crystal, she goes she's major
Speaker 1: and STEVIEE. Wonder as example. She was like, they don't
Speaker 1: curse their music. They make great secular music, but it's
Speaker 1: nothing derogatory. And she was like, you can still find
Speaker 1: your lane and it doesn't have to be Christian. But
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, you seeking Christian music
Speaker 1: like I was. I just was still trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to navigate that. So I love how you
Speaker 1: found like a way because I listened to Karen Hawthorne's
Speaker 1: album and that was a great album and you couldn't
Speaker 1: really tell if it was Christian or R and B.
Speaker 1: But then when you listen, like, oh, she's talking about God.
Speaker 1: And I just love how she like found her lane
Speaker 1: to within her journey to still talk about God but
Speaker 1: make it unique to her walk right right, So when
Speaker 1: you got to this, like when you got to that
Speaker 1: point and you were like all right, God, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it your way. And you decide to do Christian
Speaker 1: R and B. What was that like aha moment? Like
Speaker 1: were you just in your room like writing and God
Speaker 1: was like write about me? Or were you just in
Speaker 1: that space where you're like I want to write a
Speaker 1: love letter to God.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was a process. So I had quit music.
Speaker 3: I moved back to North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I like waved the white flag.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well I was wrong because I can't.
Speaker 2: I had no peace.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I guess all the visions that
Speaker 4: I saw that God showed me from my life, me
Speaker 4: on stage and you know, different things that.
Speaker 2: I would see come to pass.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I guess I read all of
Speaker 4: it wrong. And so I went back to North Carolina.
Speaker 4: I got my real estate license, like.
Speaker 2: I like gave up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like okay, God, like I would
Speaker 4: pray to him, like I want to know you, like
Speaker 4: reveal yourself to me because something's not clicking.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I still didn't know like who God was
Speaker 2: for myself.
Speaker 4: I had only heard what people had told me about him.
Speaker 4: You know, I had the Bible, so I would like
Speaker 4: go back and read the Bible sometimes when I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, the in.
Speaker 2: The lowest places.
Speaker 4: But I was like, I still don't feel like I've
Speaker 4: ever seen your face.
Speaker 2: I've never I don't know who you are.
Speaker 4: And so that was my prayer for about like an
Speaker 4: eight month period, and I was just you know, I
Speaker 4: would go and I would watch sermons, and you know,
Speaker 4: music was nowhere in my mind.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's a thing of my past.
Speaker 4: And so I ended up getting an opportunity to move
Speaker 4: back to Atlanta about a year later, and I was weeping,
Speaker 4: just tears of joy the night before I was moving back,
Speaker 4: because I love Atlanta and I always wanted to get
Speaker 4: here and it really does feel like home for me.
Speaker 4: But I didn't know how it was going to work
Speaker 4: and how I was going to get back here. And
Speaker 4: so the night before I moved back, I was just
Speaker 4: praising God for all he'd done for me, all he'd
Speaker 4: healed me from, walked me through, and the fact that
Speaker 4: he had revealed himself to me, and I feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: now I know who you are. And I was like, okay, God,
Speaker 4: when I go back, like what do you have for me?
Speaker 4: And this was the first time that I ever felt
Speaker 4: redirected by the Holy Spirit in prayer, and the Holy
Speaker 4: Spirit redirected me to ask the question, God, what do
Speaker 4: you need from me?
Speaker 2: When I go back?
Speaker 1: What you need from And.
Speaker 4: It was like a movie the way that I then
Speaker 4: heard the voice of God speak to me. And I'm
Speaker 4: here because it was right here on my left side
Speaker 4: that I like felt and heard the voice of God
Speaker 4: say music.
Speaker 2: And I trembled.
Speaker 4: Because I was like, okay, okay, okay, I just heard God,
Speaker 4: like that was God. I know that was God, and he,
Speaker 4: like you said music, Like I don't how, you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what that meant to do music for him,
Speaker 4: you know, and and to you know, still stay walking
Speaker 4: in the new life that I had, you know, because yeah,
Speaker 4: I just I just didn't I didn't know that Christian
Speaker 4: ARMB was an option. And so when I moved back
Speaker 4: to Atlanta, probably like two weeks later, I reconnected with
Speaker 4: my manager who we had met in like twenty nineteen
Speaker 4: when I was kind of hustling out here as a
Speaker 4: songwriter and trying to figure out, you know, the secular space,
Speaker 4: and he now was working in the Christian hip hop
Speaker 4: space and invited me to some events out here in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: And so the first events I went to in Atlanta
Speaker 4: were in this round of my time here were Christian
Speaker 4: hip hop events, and my mind was blown.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like completely, so everybody sober, you.
Speaker 4: Know, this is hip hop music, this is you know,
Speaker 4: and we're just turning up in Jesus name.
Speaker 2: It blew my mind, yes, and so like with that exposure,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, now it's clicking.
Speaker 1: Now is like I'm gonna give you the destruction and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you right right.
Speaker 3: And so I was like, okay, God, I see you.
Speaker 4: And so then I got curious about all the different
Speaker 4: things that are happening in the Christian space right obviously
Speaker 4: Christian hip hop, Christian R and B, Christiangathon, afrobeats, Christian
Speaker 4: Like there's all these different genres that I had never.
Speaker 2: Been exposed to prior to that.
Speaker 4: And so I heard him, but I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: like I don't really, I still I was scared. I
Speaker 4: was scared to get back to music. I was like traumatized.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't know. You know, I hadn't written music in two years.
Speaker 4: I hadn't listened to music. I wasn't even listening to
Speaker 4: music during this time of my life.
Speaker 2: I was quiet. It was just quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so then I ended up actually getting health scare
Speaker 4: in May of that year. That really made me like
Speaker 4: think about death in a way that I had never.
Speaker 2: Had to before.
Speaker 4: And I was like, if I don't make it through
Speaker 4: whatever this is, I have to go to God and
Speaker 4: answer why I.
Speaker 2: Didn't do what he told me to do. He told
Speaker 2: me to do music, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I ended up just going on YouTube finding
Speaker 4: some YouTube beats because also my manager was like, you know,
Speaker 4: you have to create new memories around your gifts, right
Speaker 4: like this fear you have of it, this you know,
Speaker 4: your gift right now is in kind of the thicket
Speaker 4: of like you know, it's in kind of like a
Speaker 4: clouded forest, and you have to just break out of
Speaker 4: it and give new memories to your gift. So go
Speaker 4: on YouTube, and I know how to how to record myself,
Speaker 4: and he was so it was like, go on YouTube,
Speaker 4: get you some beats and record yourself, write you some songs, wow,
Speaker 4: and figure out that you don't you can you can
Speaker 4: just do it. You don't, you don't need anybody to
Speaker 4: co sign or you can just do it. So I
Speaker 4: did that, and I, you know, I was kind of
Speaker 4: finding my song with.
Speaker 2: God, right.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what my new voices
Speaker 4: as a writer, as an artist, and I just kind
Speaker 4: of started pouring my heart out to God. And that
Speaker 4: became my pe from me to God because I didn't
Speaker 4: have an audience at the time, like I was, you know,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: I was in my little cocoon.
Speaker 4: And then in September of that year, I released My
Speaker 4: Bad and the kind of the rest is kind of history,
Speaker 4: but it was a really organic kind of flow with God.
Speaker 4: It's not like I set out to do Christian R
Speaker 4: and B. I was just setting out to be obedient. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I ended up in this space and it's a really
Speaker 4: cool place to be.
Speaker 1: And I'm so proud of you. Thank you, I really
Speaker 1: am you. Do you have you started off with acting
Speaker 1: and singing? Is that something that you want to kind
Speaker 1: of get back into And it's so like what roles
Speaker 1: would you see yourself playing now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Walk of your life?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so definitely I want to I want to do
Speaker 4: all of it, like I wanna. I want to act,
Speaker 4: I want to write, I want to produce. I want
Speaker 4: to do all of the things I want to, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to do Broadway again. I want to, you know,
Speaker 4: I I there was a time when I thought that
Speaker 4: I had to give up everything.
Speaker 2: I was wrong about everything.
Speaker 3: And now I'm in a place where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: now I just have.
Speaker 2: To do everything huge for your glory.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know.
Speaker 4: So I want to go do all of it. I
Speaker 4: think roles, So I have some ideas of roles that
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 2: Like to create.
Speaker 1: Okay, come on, I like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I think that I would just
Speaker 4: love to I'm really big on representations of liberation, yes,
Speaker 4: and like what it looks like to be a modern
Speaker 4: liberated woman and walking with God in that. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: so I think any roles that align with that, that's
Speaker 4: where I'm That's where I.
Speaker 1: Would like to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I received it.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: Is there anything coming up that our audience can support
Speaker 1: you on and that you won't let us know you
Speaker 1: can give us a little tea on? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So obviously have new music coming out. I have a
Speaker 4: lot of new music coming out this year. I really
Speaker 4: feel like I'm making the music that sounds like my
Speaker 4: soul and how I really have always heard myself. Yes,
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to release more music and some some
Speaker 4: some creative business okay adventures as well, and definitely more
Speaker 4: live shows. I'm gonna, you know, hopefully be able to
Speaker 4: go out and you know, do some touring this year too,
Speaker 4: and really just just be with the people. I really
Speaker 4: love performing. You know, I was the theater kids, so
Speaker 4: I love to be in person. And you know, social
Speaker 4: media has been so great to be able to connect
Speaker 4: with people from everywhere.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that you have on social media? Like
Speaker 1: all the world is crazy.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's crazy, and so I would love to
Speaker 4: go see some of those places this year.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Well. Before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, I want to play a quick game
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: It's a rapid fire game and it's just this or that, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: Praise and worship or balla city.
Speaker 2: M Okay, I'll say.
Speaker 4: I'll say praise and worship, street edge or a church boy.
Speaker 5: Come on, Jesus, Jesus, am I say church boy with
Speaker 5: street edge.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm with you all that, okay, all right, we
Speaker 1: just did fashion week, so chanel or oh maybe okay,
Speaker 1: love it classic?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lemon pepper wings or caesar salad.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm gonna sylemon, give me.
Speaker 2: A right right salad?
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Balance inches and bundles or naturally stuff.
Speaker 2: These are really the questions. These are tough because I
Speaker 2: really love my natural hair.
Speaker 4: Okay, right now, I'm gonna have to say bundles because
Speaker 4: I'm in my Bojo era.
Speaker 1: I love it and it works. I love it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel you a fun night out or a quiet
Speaker 1: night in, quiet night in. I love me too, girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My home body, my social battery be draining, so fan yeah,
Speaker 1: just give me a quiet night I feel you sneakers
Speaker 1: or heels, heels, yeah, acting or singing?
Speaker 2: Singing? Yes.
Speaker 1: If you could listen to only one album for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life, not including yours, what would it be?
Speaker 2: Okay? The emancipation of me me baby right?
Speaker 1: So good? Shout out Mariah, you shout out Maria, so good?
Speaker 1: Last one your favorite Bible verse?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Psalm ninety four nineteen, When anxiety was great within me,
Speaker 4: your consolation brought joy to my soul.
Speaker 1: So good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that fir saved my life.
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That wraps up this round of rapid fire questions. Amazing.
Speaker 1: I love you and I am so proud of you
Speaker 1: for staying on this journey and finding your place in
Speaker 1: this world where you can honor God. Thank you for
Speaker 1: taking time to be with us.
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. I just want to touch agree.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you and the vulnerability that you
Speaker 4: just like so freely share with people with your journey matters.
Speaker 2: Is it's important.
Speaker 4: Don't let nobody condemn you. You're doing the Lord's work
Speaker 4: and that's all that matters.
Speaker 2: And I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having us. Of course, no pleasure. Please
Speaker 1: come back when something else come back. You always have
Speaker 1: a place on the couch. Thank you, absolutely, thank you. Wow,
Speaker 1: today's episode was so amazing. I really enjoy talking to Lee.
Speaker 1: One of my takeaways from our conversation is that your
Speaker 1: relationship with God is uniquely your own. We can inspire
Speaker 1: each other by being transparent about what we're going through
Speaker 1: in our journeys because we're all going through something, but
Speaker 1: our relationship is ours and with Him alone. So remember that,
Speaker 1: don't compare your journey or your walk to anyone else's.
Speaker 1: You can be inspired by people's journey in their walk,
Speaker 1: but your relationship with Jesus Christ is yours. Thank you
Speaker 1: all so much for spending time with me today. I
Speaker 1: hope today's conversation inspired you all to dream big, break boundaries,
Speaker 1: and be confident in your career and faith journey. You
Speaker 1: guys can follow me on all social media platforms at
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