1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefronts. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Christophinee and Hazel and this is the Keep It Positive 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Sweetie Show. Welcome to another episode of The Keep It 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Positive Sweeties Show, a safe space where we heal, love 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: and grow together. I'm your host Christophinee Hazel, and I'm 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: super excited about this episode because I get to talk 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: to one of my new favorite people, Lee Vassie. Lee 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: is a triple threat singer, songwriter, and actress who is 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: shattering genre barriers with her unique blend of Christian and 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: R and B music. The incredibly talented singer songwriter actress 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Lee Vassi hails from Faetteville, North Carolina, beginning her career 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: in entertainment at the age of nine years old on 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Broadway as Young Nalla and the Lion King. Lee has 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: since released multiple singles, making her one of Christian music's 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: most exciting new stars, and Amazon Music naming her as 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Artists to Watch Guys. I am 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: so excited she's here. Welcome Lee, Thank you so much 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: for coming. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for having you. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Look beautiful. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: I feel great. How you feeling, I'm good? 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah. It has been a long week. We 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: just finished your fashion week? Yes, that was my first one. 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Was that your first one? 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my first one. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Girl. When I say exhausting, girl's not built that. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: I got to get back at there. You know what 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: We really had to, like, like the same way you 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: get ready for tour. I feel like you had to 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: be prepared for fashion because it is a marathon. 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a whole production. Rachel. I loved it. 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: How was your first experience? 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: You know it was it was full of surprises. I 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: had no expectations, but it was great. I got to 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 4: meet people like you and it was awesome. I'll definitely 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: do it again, is yours? 39 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: It was amazing. But the first day we got there, 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Delta lost my luggage. So yes, all my day one 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: looks were left in Atlanta. No, yes, you should have 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: seen this girl. We were literally a shan and I 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: we landed and the guy came out and he's like, yeah, 44 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm only seeing six bags and we were like, well 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: there was definitely seven. And so as we're we like, 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: we we're running close on time cause I had press 47 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta for BT, so I hot on a 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: plane on had like maybe three hours before Sergio Hudson's show. 49 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: Got in the car. I was like, we s we 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: have to head towards the hotel. So I I'm literally 51 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: in the back of on top of suitcases, unzipping to 52 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: see what made it cause I didn't know what my 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: silence or my assistant Herman had put into each suitcase, 54 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's not in here. We opened it, 55 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I was like, it's not in here. I was like, 56 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: we got one more and then if not, we gotta 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: figure this out. So the pivot is it's powerful and 58 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: we Shan ended up calling a girl at burgdor from 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Sergio hudsd and we went. She literally threw it in 60 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the car as we were driving past Burgdorf held it 61 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: to the hotel to get ready. Ah. 62 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: I love the d honestly, I love the drama of 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you can't beat a good memory. 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, thank you. So yeah, it was fun. 65 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I've met a lot 66 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: of amazing people like you, Like this is my first 67 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: time meeting you. I was first introduced to your music 68 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Okay, we had a bar moment with GPS, 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: which I absolutely love that song. I feel like everybody 70 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: was posting and I was like, Oh my gosh, I 71 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: love this girl. And then when someone was like, oh, 72 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: she's one of my clients, I was like, oh my gosh. 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: I was super excited to meet and happy that you 74 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: are on the show. 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thank you for having me. 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: I want to know more about you because it's our 77 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: first real chit chat, because everything in New York was 78 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: like so like hey girl, hey girl, but I won't 79 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: really learn more about you and your journey. So you're 80 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: from Faybville, North Carolina, I am Yeah. How was that 81 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: growing up? Isn't that where Jake Color is from? 82 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 83 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm a huge like j cole fan, definitely 84 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: was hometown here growing up. But yeah, originally from North Carolina, 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: but also kind of spent a lot of time in 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: New York as a kid, chasing my dreams and you know, 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: doing things. 88 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: So but yeah, I'm from Faybville. 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: And then you did Broadway. I did in New York. 90 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: I was nine. 91 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: I was nine when I booked it, and I did 92 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: it until I was eleven. 93 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: And was Nala your first was that your first role? 94 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: It was my first professional role, but I was definitely 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: theater kid growing up. I started performing with my siblings 96 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: actually at the local theater when I was seven, and 97 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: my brother actually used to get me ready for auditions. 98 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Oh and he actually found. 99 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: The Lion King audition and I ended up booking it 100 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: off an open call. I didn't have an agent or 101 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: anything at that time, and so yeah, pretty quickly it 102 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: turned into you know, my career and when I. 103 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Was pursuing so and I'm always interested like what is 104 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: it as a child, because I know Broadway can be 105 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: a very rigorous schedule, demanding, and it's not as glamorous 106 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: as people think it. Right, you get the TV and film, 107 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: you have hair styles and makeup artists and you're just 108 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of sitting there learning your lines. And it's still 109 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: a lot of hard work. But with Broadway you have 110 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: to do everything. It's not like you don't have like 111 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the team of people. How was that at a very 112 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: young age? 113 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: Well, so I actually did have hair and makeup. Yeah, 114 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: there's your way, because it's also very intricate makeup and hair, 115 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: like they attach a thing to your hair, like it's 116 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 4: this whole thing for young nallas. So I did have 117 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: a great makeup and hair team and dressers and everything. 118 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: So you know, I love the production of theater. 119 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: I love you know, the pace of it, and you 120 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: have to be on it's live, it's you know, eight 121 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: shows a week. 122 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: So so Tyler, he comes from the theater world, so 123 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: I understand, like we have one shot to get the take. 124 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: What is that pressure like day in and day out, 125 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: known that you're performing from the live audience and you 126 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: gotta get it right in that one shot. 127 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: Well, so I think something that I really love about 129 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: theater is the preparation that's required because you're doing the 130 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: same show every night, right, and so you get to 131 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: a point where it's kind of in your muscle memory. 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: Obviously you have to improv, and you know there's different 133 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: things that come up every night, you know, maybe. 134 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: A technical difficulty or what have you. 135 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: But it really just kind of lives in your in 136 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: your body at a certain point. And so for me, 137 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: especially as a kid, it really wasn't pressure because I 138 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: just felt so prepared and I loved it, you know, 139 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: I was really just having so much fun. 140 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: What was like, can you remember what was a moment 141 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: where it was like whoa, Like you had your first 142 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: technical difficulty or you had to improv where you were 143 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you kind of like what's happening? Did you kind of 144 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: have to learn like how to pivot or was that 145 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: something that just came naturally. 146 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: So, actually, the first technical difficulty I had was not 147 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: in The Lion King. 148 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: It was when it was in my first show. 149 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: I did The Wizard of Oz Wow and one yeah, yeah, 150 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: well in my local theater. So that was my first 151 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: show and I was a munchkin, and you know, we 152 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: were wearing these huge uh you know, munchkin land shoes 153 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: and myne one of mine came off in the middle 154 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: of us, like ring around the rosy situation, and my 155 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 4: sister was also in the show with me, and my 156 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 4: sister kind of just kicked the shoe off off stage 157 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: and so uh and I was just so happy to 158 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: have my sister there for me in that moment because 159 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: that was my first time. 160 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I was seven. 161 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do, but you know, you 162 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: keep going, you keep rolling with it. So yeah, so 163 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: that that definitely was like a core memory for me 164 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: to just keep swimming, you know, see him going going. 165 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a moment like that my first pageant. 166 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't as young as you. I was probably like 167 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: thirteen and I did my first pageant and I was 168 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: such a time boy growing up. Okay, but you know 169 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: how like they do like the parade where all the 170 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: girls walk out, all the contestants, and I literally lost 171 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: my shoe and I had to like stand on the 172 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: hip like on my TV toes on one foot and 173 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: had to keep going and make it work. My friend 174 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: she was behind me, and she kicked the shoe out 175 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: of the way, like similar to yours. So that is funny. 176 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: But that's good that you had the wherewithal I just 177 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: keep going. 178 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's life, man. 179 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is something you can literally take with 180 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: you for the rest of your life. Just keep going. 181 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 182 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: I love that you ended up. How long did you 183 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: continue this pursuing this career as you got older? 184 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: I kind of like never stopped. I just shifted my focus. 185 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: So when I was in the Lion King, I became 186 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: interested in songwriting, okay, and I was like a huge 187 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: like music nerd since before I can remember. 188 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: And so I used to watch all the MTV. 189 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: VH one like behind the you know music, like those 190 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: kind of episodes, and I'm a huge Maria carry fan. 191 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: I was really big on Neo growing up too, and 192 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, they're songwriters, so I need to 193 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: learn how to write songs. And so I asked for 194 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: a guitar for my tenth birthday and I got one 195 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: and I started writing songs on my guitar when I 196 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: was ten, and so that kind of opened the door 197 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: for me really just thinking about music is what I 198 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: wanted to pursue, because before, you know, I was really young, 199 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: so you know, the world was kind of my oyster 200 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: and I was like, I could do theater, I can 201 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: do movies, and you know, music. 202 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to do all of it and still do 203 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but I really started. 204 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: Focusing on music when I was sixteen, and I was like, Okay, 205 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: this is this is the one thing I'm going to 206 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: focus on for now before I branch out, you know. 207 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's dope. You talked about how once 208 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you got a little older you took a hiatus from everything. 209 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: What prompted that ship to be like I need to 210 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: take a beat. 211 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: Life just started life in and I didn't know how 212 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: to manage it right. And I think that because I 213 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: was so young in this constant pursuit right of my 214 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: goals and of these visions that God had really shown 215 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: me about what my life would look like. You know, 216 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: I got kind of lost in that at a point, 217 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: and you know, God didn't show me all the mess No, 218 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: I haven't, right, And so you know, I was at 219 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: a really tough place with my mental health. 220 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: I kind of was ending up. 221 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: In toxic relationship after toxic relationship. You know, things got 222 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: tough in my career and I just didn't really know 223 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: what was next. 224 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: I just felt like I was kind of on this. 225 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: Downward spiral that I couldn't see the end of how 226 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: to stop it, you know, And so I had to 227 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: like make a decision to take a beat. And it 228 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: was tough to kind of come to that place of like, 229 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: you know what, this isn't working out. 230 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: But but God used it. And so yeah, there was 231 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: a just kind of like a whirlwind just. 232 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Mess demon sharing because I liked for our audience to 233 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: see that, like, we are just like them. A lot 234 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: of times they see us in the spotlight and things, Oh, 235 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: they don't go through anything. Are you comfortable to sharing 236 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: anything that you were going through that moment that may 237 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: help someone else? 238 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Sure? 239 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was really just a combination of honestly 240 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: like being naive I was young really like when I 241 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: was when I went to college, is when everything kind 242 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: of just fell apart, you know. And and I think 243 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: that I also in the midst of all of these things, 244 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: you know, happening in my family life, like things you 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: know that were really traumatic happening in my family, and 246 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: then me you know, falling in love for the first 247 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: time in my life and maybe falling in love with 248 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 4: the really wrong people to fall in love with. 249 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: You know. I was just I didn't. 250 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: Have the tools spiritually to like understand that what I 251 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: was going through with spiritual warfare and and and I 252 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: needed help with it. And I was at an age 253 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: where I thought I knew everything and nobody can tell 254 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: me nothing. 255 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: You know, girl. 256 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I got it, like don't huh. 257 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 2: And so yeah, so there were. 258 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: There was there were some tragedies that happened in my 259 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: family that I kind of leaned into partying to try 260 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: to figure out how to cope with. And then that, uh, 261 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: you know, the world that I was in led to 262 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: some really toxic and abusive relationships and it just became 263 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: a cycle and it started to kind of normalize in 264 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: my life, and I was like, okay, like this is 265 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 4: just being grown, you know, right, And you know I 266 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: kind of accepted that as truth until I just couldn't 267 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: accept it anymore. 268 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: You know. 269 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: So my question, did you have like an upbringing where 270 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: you're you're raising a church where you because a lot 271 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: of times, like for me, I was raising a church. 272 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: My mother was a pastor. We were there every time 273 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the doors of the church opened. Got to college and 274 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: I was buck wild, like rebelled, you know, I was 275 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: the prodigal daughter, okay, you know, and I literally like 276 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: same thing, partying, drinking. When I got to college with 277 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the wrong guys. You know, it was just like down 278 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: this path of destruction. Was there a moment in your 279 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: childhood where you had something to reach back to, knowing 280 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: like I got to get back to the foundation. 281 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 282 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my parents definitely gave me that foundation. We weren't. 283 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: I wasn't a church girl, you know, like we would 284 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: kind of be in and out of church at different 285 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: times growing up. But when I was fourteen, I did 286 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: do the alter call at a Bible study and I 287 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: gave my life to Christ. But I did it kind 288 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: of out of fear because I didn't want to go 289 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: to Hell. 290 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. You know. 291 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: I didn't do it because I really like understood who 292 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: Jesus is, or like even maybe at that point even 293 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: really cared to know who Jesus is. But I just 294 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: didn't want to go to Hell. And so I was like, Okay, 295 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this alter call. I'm gonna be saved, 296 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 4: and that's cool. But I, you know, then went into 297 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: high school and went into college and wavered. 298 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: And as a kid, I. 299 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: Wouldn't say I wouldn't say that anything kept me restricted. 300 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: But me, I was so focused as a kid. 301 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: And so rigid towards myself, had a lot of. 302 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: Negative self talk because I was so just goal oriented 303 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: and I didn't I didn't party in high school. I 304 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: didn't have a huge social circle, like I was just 305 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: at the house. 306 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: I would go to school and go home and songwrite 307 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: and that was it, you know. 308 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: And so I think for me, then when I got 309 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: to college, I was like, okay, well I did the 310 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: thing like I'm you know, I'm back in New York, 311 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: and I'm you know, pursuing what I want to be pursuing, 312 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: you know, And and and I went a little I 313 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: went wild, you know. And it wasn't because of necessarily 314 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: a rebellion from the church, but I think I was 315 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: rebelling against like myself. Yeah, Like I was tired of 316 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: being so structured and I wanted to know what it 317 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: felt like to just kind of like be free, I feel, 318 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, and ended up thinking that all of these 319 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: things that were keeping me free or making me free, 320 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: I came to realize these are actually. 321 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Bondage, you know. 322 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: And so I do thank my parents that they gave 323 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: me the foundation of Jesus, you know, because then a 324 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: couple of years later, when I was like I need 325 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: to just completely. 326 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Reset and deconstruct or reconstruct, who I ran to was Jesus. 327 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: And at that point that's when I figured out what 328 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: a relationship with the Lord is and who the Lord is. 329 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, people often think that a relationship with Jesus 330 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: is just so cookie cutter, and it is far from that. 331 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: It is ever evolving. Is that like when they say 332 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: the daily bread, it is literally like you die daily 333 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and wake up for it. It's literally like every day 334 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: every day. And there's seasons where you go through spiritual warfare. 335 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: There are seasons where you're really locked in there are 336 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: seasons where you're knocked off your rocker. And for me, 337 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: I know I can. I've been very vocal about my 338 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: walk and sometimes Christians aren't the easiest to be open with. 339 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, God knows the truth, So 340 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: why am I gonna fake it for y'all? No, And 341 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I was very honest about moments where I backslid, you know, 342 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: And now I'm on the path where I'm really, really 343 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: in tune and intimate and really pursuing that int relationship 344 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: with God. And some people just don't get it. They're 345 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I had somebody ask me, like, 346 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you've been doing it, like like why now? 347 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Like why would you just stop doing I'm like, because 348 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: the Bible says like once you realize you're going, don't 349 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: you turn away from that? You don't keep going down 350 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the path of destruction? Like what sense does that make? 351 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: And I feel like where we are now just the 352 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: state of the world. I feel like God is pulling 353 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: his children near and pulling his clothes. Have you noticed that? 354 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Like every conversation you have for me, every conversation I've 355 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: had since the beginning of twenty twenty five, Jesus has 356 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: come up at some point, like it just ran like 357 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really kind of stay away 358 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: from the topic of God and don't really want to 359 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: like step on any feet or like rough any feathers. 360 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like everyone he's like tugging on everyone. 361 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: And the other night we had like this really bad 362 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: storm and I literally thought God was back. I was like, 363 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Lord is right. I was like yes, 364 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: like and I was like, why am I scared? You 365 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it was such an high moment. 366 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, girl, Like I don't want to 367 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: be scared. I want to be like, thank you, come on, 368 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: wrap me up, let's go. Like I didn't want to. 369 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, oh my God. And 370 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: I recently just like God had been convinced me on sex. 371 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: And as I was reading, I just talked. I posted 372 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: something the other day about every time I read the 373 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Bible sexual immorality was just like literally jump off page. 374 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Lord, I get it. Yeah yeah. And 375 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: when that happened, and I was thinking about the next 376 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: day after the storm, and I was like, I don't 377 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: want to be somewhere where my legs caught back and 378 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: God come down? Can you imagine? And then be like 379 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: hold on Lord? Right, No, you keep that same energy 380 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: over here. 381 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: You know. 382 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't want like it was real. It's like when 383 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: you put into that perspective because like my parents were like, 384 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: think about it, like when God comes back, what do 385 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: you want to be doing? And it's not until this 386 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: big age where I was like taking it. What do 387 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: I want to be caught doing? Like people don't think 388 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: about it, like I feel you. When that thunder roar 389 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the other night, I said, oh no, he is he here? 390 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I was like, legit scared and I don't want to 391 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: be scared. I don't want to be like let's go. Yeah, 392 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't need no bags. I'm ready, you know, like 393 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I want to be ready. So yeah, I feel you. 394 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: I've definitely had those moments where I like wavered and 395 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: just it's it's ever evolving. Yeah, And I wish people 396 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: understood that, you know, because it's not perfect, and he 397 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: doesn't expect us to be perfect exactly. 398 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has grace for it. Yeah, right, he has 399 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: expectations of us. He has his children, like he doesn't 400 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: want us to live righteously, but I think that as 401 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: I've come to know the Lord for myself more, it's 402 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: like he wants us to live righteously because he loves 403 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: us so much and is trying to protect us from 404 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: all of these things, you. 405 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: Know, like that we think. 406 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: Like how I used to like this is where my 407 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: liberation is. 408 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: No, that's your bondage, baby girl, that's the bondage. 409 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: And he gives us. 410 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: These you know, uh, these these commandments right not to 411 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: restrict us, but to protect us and to prepare us 412 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: for when he comes back, and also to like live 413 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: well while we're here. 414 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't. 415 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: We're talking, but. 416 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: I feel you. 417 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: I've been there, like literally with sex, also with alcohol. 418 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Okay, right, so that's the next thing he working on me, 419 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you girl, girl. I took a sip of some wine 420 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: the other day, and when I tell you that sharp 421 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: pain went up to my head. I said, what was that? Yeah, 422 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: I like my little wine. Now you can't take everything away. 423 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: From me, right, Well, so for me, like I was, 424 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: I was using alcohol as a cry, yeah, and I 425 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: was using it as a number, you know. And I 426 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: think also just kind of you know, I was introduced 427 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: to alcohol like when I went to college was it 428 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: was it was binge drinking, like it wasn't just like 429 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: a cute little glass of wine in there, right, And 430 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: the Bible is really specific about. 431 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: Like drunkenness, and you have to find that balance, right, yeah, 432 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: because I really don't think there's anything wrong with drinking. 433 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: It's just the consumption and being responsible. Because there again, 434 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: that's a boundary that he put in place to what 435 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: protect us. You know, if people follow that, we wouldn't 436 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: have the car wrecks and that people getting killed from 437 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: junk driving or even the diseases that come from. 438 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: That, and just like being unfocused and the choices you 439 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: made right. 440 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: And the regret and the shame, Like ID don't want 441 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: us to live like that. 442 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: He does us to be like comfy and have a 443 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: good day and not think about what we did last night. 444 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: And you know, and so I experienced connection with that. 445 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: How are you on with that now? Because we just 446 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: think about like we we teetered the line of like 447 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: cold and Christianity. We're around it, but we're not consuming it, 448 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I feel like my 449 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: church we call like what is your street that God 450 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: has pitching on? Like our street is the street of 451 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: arts and entertainment, where we take God's life into those 452 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: spaces where he's normally not talked about. But like, do 453 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: you ever feel like when we're like out in the 454 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: clubs and so, like you got to go to these 455 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: places and meet these people to build these relationships, does 456 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: your spirit ever feel convicted? 457 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: So I don't drink anymore. 458 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: You cut it out. 459 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: I stopped. 460 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: That's good. 461 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: I stopped. 462 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: And it's God's grace because so what what God actually did? 463 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: Because he knows me and I'm still I still gotta 464 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: work on being a little stubborn. But so God put 465 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: me on a TV fast in three he was like, 466 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: and we had gone to church and the pastor was like, 467 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 4: asked the Lord to reveal to you, like things that 468 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: are that are that you're keeping in your life, that 469 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: are keeping you from what. 470 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: He has for you. And this was right before I started. 471 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: To release my Christian r and b wow, And I 472 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: asked the Lord, you know what that thing was for me? 473 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: And he told me TV, like you watching too much TV. 474 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: Stop watching TV for twenty one days, right, only consume 475 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: like Christian podcasts or Christian content. Yeah, And so so 476 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: I stopped. I stopped watching the TV and started watching 477 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: Christian podcasts. And I'm watching Christian podcasts and I would 478 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: get my you know, drink watch these Christian podcasts and. 479 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, like, that's not what I told you to do, right. 480 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: But because God knows how to talk to me, right, 481 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: It's like, because He I had taken all the distraction 482 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: out from all these other sources and I was only 483 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: taking in content that was reminding me of Him. Naturally, 484 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: my spirit started to be convicted right and naturally, oh, 485 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: after twenty one days like that habit started to become 486 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: a thing that I recognized was keeping me from Him, right, 487 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: And it's a personal conviction thing, right for everybody has 488 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: to go on their journey with it. 489 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: But so I stopped drinking alcohol in. 490 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: September of twenty twenty three, and I watched my life change. 491 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: That is beautiful and. 492 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: The biggest, the biggest thing of it for me has 493 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: been just focused right, like God knew. And it's so 494 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: funny because the pastor's question was about, like, what is 495 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: there that's keeping you from what. 496 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: God has for you? 497 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know what God had for me on 498 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: the other side of that obedience, but I just did 499 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: it and I watched, I was like. 500 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Oh, crazy, you know how like when you literally surrendered. Yeah, 501 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: and like before your eyes you're like, oh, I was 502 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: just telling what was the other day? I was like, man, 503 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: I said, ever since I like surrendered sex to God, 504 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: Like literally I see doors, doors that were shut. It's 505 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: just like now it's multiple options. Like I'm like, God, 506 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: that's how that's how he works. Yeah, it's crazy. And 507 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: wait until you experienced it, you don't really understand it. 508 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: But you're right, you don't know what's on the other 509 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: side of that, of the obedience. 510 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so now you know. 511 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: And I did wonder like I was like, Okay, how 512 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: am I gonna you know, how like who am I 513 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: out without drinking? 514 00:22:59,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Right? 515 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 4: Because I started to become a young adult and be 516 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: the version of myself that I knew like drinking, right, 517 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: I was like, so, who am if I don't drink? 518 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: Do I can I still go out? Can I you know, 519 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: go to events or you know? And I really did 520 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: have a season where it was just really quiet in 521 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: my life and it was really just like going home, 522 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: doing by work and talking to God, you know, and 523 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: didn't feel like I could I could have the self 524 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: control or the discernment, you know, to to keep up 525 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: what God had called me to and so but now 526 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: I can right like now, it's not a temptation for me, 527 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: you know, and it is something that I'm seeing, like 528 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: what it means to. 529 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: Grow in the fruits of the spirit. 530 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: Yes, because I'm like, oh wow, like I don't I'm 531 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: actually not tempted in this space in a place where 532 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: I thought I had to become a shell of myself 533 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: or a hermit. 534 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, because he wants he doesn't. 535 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: Want exactly exactly. And I love like, girl, I'll go 536 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 2: get a good macktail. I love me a good macktail. 537 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: I love a little vesty macktail, you know. 538 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: You know, like you can't still go live your life 539 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 4: and you know, and have fun and just represent him 540 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: wherever you go. 541 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it's yes, that's it. I think that's the part 542 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: that we miss. I used to always say. People think 543 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: being a Christian is born. It's not, you know. And 544 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: when you really follow him, you can still have a 545 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: sense of humor, a clean sense of humor, you know, 546 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: And there's ways to do it where He's still like 547 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: that is honible my side, you good, you know, and 548 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: the ways for us to spread his word and his life, 549 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: you know. And I remember like last year I was 550 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: going through like a really big season of spiritual warfare 551 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: where people close to me who had like this really 552 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: good relationship with God it literally would irk me because 553 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: like I'm like, yes, I believe in Him, Yes, but 554 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: you're doing too much, you know, like calm down, like 555 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: everything got to be Jesus, Jesus, jes Jesus, Jesus. And 556 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: in this season on life, I'm realizing that was the devil. 557 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: He was literally like he knew what God was trying 558 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: to work in me. And I was like, no, like 559 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, tetering that line and entertainment, 560 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: like trying to figure out where I fit in and 561 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: how does this work and how do I keep everything 562 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: going but not lose myself? And guys like, you're not 563 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: going to lose yourself if you would me, you know, 564 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: because that's where the authentic true you comes out. Come 565 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: on ding ding ding Ding. 566 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: I was really going to say that. 567 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: I was like, because you who you are and him 568 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 4: is the real youth, yes, right, and we think that 569 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: when we go to him that we're gonna well, okay, yeah, 570 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 4: we do lose ourselves, but we're supposed. 571 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: To because of like the self that you're losing. It's 572 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: not you, it's not you. 573 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: And he wants so much more for you. 574 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 3: On the other side walking with him, you know, I 575 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 3: love that for you. 576 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's it's so much more peaceful, even with music, 577 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: Like I did want to evolve this past summer, and 578 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: even in that moment, I was still like struggling because 579 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: that's I had just done the crazy episode and I 580 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: talked about He's like I saw where you weren't having 581 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: safety for a marriage and I was like, yeah, that 582 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: was a season of my life. But not being mature, 583 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: I was still on some milk at that time. To 584 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the Philip mcna, I was like, I said, that was 585 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: a season. And when that this, i'mna be honest with you, 586 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: I thought that, like, okay, God, I'm gonna do it 587 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: your way. I've been doing it my way all my life. 588 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it your way. And I just knew 589 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: my testimony was gonna be y'all. I did it guys 590 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: like I gotta ring, okay, and that did not happen. 591 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so I'm sacrificing my flesh and 592 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: what I really want, and I didn't get what I wanted, 593 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: so I went back dumb. I went back to my 594 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: old ways, and it was a cycle of still heartbreak 595 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: and everything. And I realized, like when I was open 596 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: about that, the Christian fans of his podcast literally like 597 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: crucified me for being honest about my transgressions and like 598 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where I was, and it 599 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: was like an attack, and I'm like, so y'all been 600 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: perfect your whole life, Like y'all see, I'm trying, you know, 601 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just being honest about my shortcomings. And at 602 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, I'm not doing any other podcast, 603 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: and I actually cried on stage. A woman evolved telling it. 604 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I just didn't want to talk about 605 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: God anymore because and then because I knew I was 606 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: still doing things that weren't pleasing in his sight, I 607 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: didn't want to feel like a hypocrite, you know. So 608 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: I was like, I just let's not talk about I 609 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: want to have fun. Like you look at the podcast 610 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: that have millions of views. They got the alcohol on 611 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the set, they're cussing and they having fun, and it's 612 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: like you get kind of blindsided, like what's working? You 613 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, The numbers ain't numbering, Like okay, 614 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: so I need to go do this, and like God 615 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: had to work. I mean, like, Noah, baby girl, that 616 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: ain't that? Ain't he trying to run for me? And 617 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I noticed like in the season as we started filming 618 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, we want to switch I 619 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: want to switch it up on any more fun. You 620 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: say that a little risk cake, And every episode here 621 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: come Jesus working his way in. 622 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: I said, you do it. 623 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. Yeah, you are not letting 624 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: me run from you. Okay, let me stop, you know, 625 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: not a runner like that anyway, let me sit down. 626 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: But it was in those moments where I was like, 627 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: God showed me what you want me to do with 628 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: this platform because I'm trying it. I'm trying to do 629 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: what I see his working and not reinvent the wheel, 630 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: but give me the will that you want me to run, 631 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I think now I'm finding that. And 632 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: even with my music. I was telling Wes, I was like, 633 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, after that, I was so convicted. I was like, Okay, 634 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I can't curse in my music, like and I was 635 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: talking to my friend Pastor Brenda we call it BP. 636 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: We call her past peep uh be p because I 637 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: has been in power, but I call her pastor Brenda 638 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Treet hate it. And I was like, you know, I 639 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: was like just trying to figure out what to do 640 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: my music. And she's like Crystal, she goes she's major 641 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: and STEVIEE. Wonder as example. She was like, they don't 642 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: curse their music. They make great secular music, but it's 643 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: nothing derogatory. And she was like, you can still find 644 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: your lane and it doesn't have to be Christian. But 645 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, you seeking Christian music 646 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: like I was. I just was still trying to figure 647 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: out how to navigate that. So I love how you 648 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: found like a way because I listened to Karen Hawthorne's 649 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: album and that was a great album and you couldn't 650 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: really tell if it was Christian or R and B. 651 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: But then when you listen, like, oh, she's talking about God. 652 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: And I just love how she like found her lane 653 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: to within her journey to still talk about God but 654 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: make it unique to her walk right right, So when 655 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: you got to this, like when you got to that 656 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: point and you were like all right, God, I'm gonna 657 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: do it your way. And you decide to do Christian 658 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: R and B. What was that like aha moment? Like 659 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: were you just in your room like writing and God 660 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: was like write about me? Or were you just in 661 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: that space where you're like I want to write a 662 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: love letter to God. 663 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 664 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: So it was a process. So I had quit music. 665 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: I moved back to North Carolina. 666 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: I like waved the white flag. 667 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well I was wrong because I can't. 668 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: I had no peace. 669 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: And I was like, I guess all the visions that 670 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: I saw that God showed me from my life, me 671 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: on stage and you know, different things that. 672 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: I would see come to pass. 673 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I guess I read all of 674 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: it wrong. And so I went back to North Carolina. 675 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: I got my real estate license, like. 676 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: I like gave up. 677 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like okay, God, like I would 678 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: pray to him, like I want to know you, like 679 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: reveal yourself to me because something's not clicking. 680 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. I still didn't know like who God was 681 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: for myself. 682 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: I had only heard what people had told me about him. 683 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: You know, I had the Bible, so I would like 684 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: go back and read the Bible sometimes when I was like, 685 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: you know, the in. 686 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: The lowest places. 687 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: But I was like, I still don't feel like I've 688 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 4: ever seen your face. 689 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: I've never I don't know who you are. 690 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: And so that was my prayer for about like an 691 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 4: eight month period, and I was just you know, I 692 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 4: would go and I would watch sermons, and you know, 693 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: music was nowhere in my mind. 694 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's a thing of my past. 695 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: And so I ended up getting an opportunity to move 696 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: back to Atlanta about a year later, and I was weeping, 697 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: just tears of joy the night before I was moving back, 698 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: because I love Atlanta and I always wanted to get 699 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: here and it really does feel like home for me. 700 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: But I didn't know how it was going to work 701 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: and how I was going to get back here. And 702 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 4: so the night before I moved back, I was just 703 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: praising God for all he'd done for me, all he'd 704 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: healed me from, walked me through, and the fact that 705 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: he had revealed himself to me, and I feel like, Okay, 706 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: now I know who you are. And I was like, okay, God, 707 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: when I go back, like what do you have for me? 708 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: And this was the first time that I ever felt 709 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: redirected by the Holy Spirit in prayer, and the Holy 710 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 4: Spirit redirected me to ask the question, God, what do 711 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: you need from me? 712 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: When I go back? 713 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: What you need from And. 714 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: It was like a movie the way that I then 715 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: heard the voice of God speak to me. And I'm 716 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: here because it was right here on my left side 717 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: that I like felt and heard the voice of God 718 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: say music. 719 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: And I trembled. 720 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: Because I was like, okay, okay, okay, I just heard God, 721 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: like that was God. I know that was God, and he, 722 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: like you said music, Like I don't how, you know, 723 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: I didn't understand what that meant to do music for him, 724 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: you know, and and to you know, still stay walking 725 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: in the new life that I had, you know, because yeah, 726 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: I just I just didn't I didn't know that Christian 727 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: ARMB was an option. And so when I moved back 728 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: to Atlanta, probably like two weeks later, I reconnected with 729 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: my manager who we had met in like twenty nineteen 730 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: when I was kind of hustling out here as a 731 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: songwriter and trying to figure out, you know, the secular space, 732 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: and he now was working in the Christian hip hop 733 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: space and invited me to some events out here in Atlanta. 734 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: And so the first events I went to in Atlanta 735 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: were in this round of my time here were Christian 736 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 4: hip hop events, and my mind was blown. 737 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like completely, so everybody sober, you. 738 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: Know, this is hip hop music, this is you know, 739 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: and we're just turning up in Jesus name. 740 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: It blew my mind, yes, and so like with that exposure, 741 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, now it's clicking. 742 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Now is like I'm gonna give you the destruction and 743 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you right right. 744 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 3: And so I was like, okay, God, I see you. 745 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: And so then I got curious about all the different 746 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: things that are happening in the Christian space right obviously 747 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: Christian hip hop, Christian R and B, Christiangathon, afrobeats, Christian 748 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: Like there's all these different genres that I had never. 749 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: Been exposed to prior to that. 750 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: And so I heard him, but I was like, okay, 751 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: like I don't really, I still I was scared. I 752 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: was scared to get back to music. I was like traumatized. 753 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, I 754 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: don't know. You know, I hadn't written music in two years. 755 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: I hadn't listened to music. I wasn't even listening to 756 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: music during this time of my life. 757 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: I was quiet. It was just quiet. 758 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 759 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 4: And so then I ended up actually getting health scare 760 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: in May of that year. That really made me like 761 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: think about death in a way that I had never. 762 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Had to before. 763 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 4: And I was like, if I don't make it through 764 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 4: whatever this is, I have to go to God and 765 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 4: answer why I. 766 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: Didn't do what he told me to do. He told 767 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: me to do music, you know. 768 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: And so I ended up just going on YouTube finding 769 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: some YouTube beats because also my manager was like, you know, 770 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 4: you have to create new memories around your gifts, right 771 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: like this fear you have of it, this you know, 772 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: your gift right now is in kind of the thicket 773 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: of like you know, it's in kind of like a 774 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: clouded forest, and you have to just break out of 775 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 4: it and give new memories to your gift. So go 776 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: on YouTube, and I know how to how to record myself, 777 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: and he was so it was like, go on YouTube, 778 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: get you some beats and record yourself, write you some songs, wow, 779 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 4: and figure out that you don't you can you can 780 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 4: just do it. You don't, you don't need anybody to 781 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: co sign or you can just do it. So I 782 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: did that, and I, you know, I was kind of 783 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: finding my song with. 784 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: God, right. 785 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what my new voices 786 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: as a writer, as an artist, and I just kind 787 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: of started pouring my heart out to God. And that 788 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: became my pe from me to God because I didn't 789 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: have an audience at the time, like I was, you know, 790 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: I was. 791 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: I was in my little cocoon. 792 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: And then in September of that year, I released My 793 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: Bad and the kind of the rest is kind of history, 794 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: but it was a really organic kind of flow with God. 795 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: It's not like I set out to do Christian R 796 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 4: and B. I was just setting out to be obedient. Yeah, 797 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: I ended up in this space and it's a really 798 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 4: cool place to be. 799 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'm so proud of you. Thank you, I really 800 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: am you. Do you have you started off with acting 801 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: and singing? Is that something that you want to kind 802 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: of get back into And it's so like what roles 803 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: would you see yourself playing now? 804 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 805 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: Walk of your life? 806 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so definitely I want to I want to do 807 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 4: all of it, like I wanna. I want to act, 808 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 4: I want to write, I want to produce. I want 809 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 4: to do all of the things I want to, you know, 810 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: I want to do Broadway again. I want to, you know, 811 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: I I there was a time when I thought that 812 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: I had to give up everything. 813 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: I was wrong about everything. 814 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 3: And now I'm in a place where I'm like, oh, 815 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: now I just have. 816 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: To do everything huge for your glory. 817 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: That's it, you know. 818 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 4: So I want to go do all of it. I 819 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 4: think roles, So I have some ideas of roles that 820 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: I would. 821 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: Like to create. 822 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: Okay, come on, I like that. 823 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I think that I would just 824 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: love to I'm really big on representations of liberation, yes, 825 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: and like what it looks like to be a modern 826 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 4: liberated woman and walking with God in that. Yeah, And 827 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: so I think any roles that align with that, that's 828 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: where I'm That's where I. 829 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: Would like to be. 830 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 831 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that it's going to happen. 832 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I received it. 833 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 5: Yes. 834 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: Is there anything coming up that our audience can support 835 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: you on and that you won't let us know you 836 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: can give us a little tea on? Yeah? 837 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 4: So obviously have new music coming out. I have a 838 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 4: lot of new music coming out this year. I really 839 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: feel like I'm making the music that sounds like my 840 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 4: soul and how I really have always heard myself. Yes, 841 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to release more music and some some 842 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: some creative business okay adventures as well, and definitely more 843 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: live shows. I'm gonna, you know, hopefully be able to 844 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: go out and you know, do some touring this year too, 845 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 4: and really just just be with the people. I really 846 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: love performing. You know, I was the theater kids, so 847 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: I love to be in person. And you know, social 848 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: media has been so great to be able to connect 849 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: with people from everywhere. 850 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that you have on social media? Like 851 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: all the world is crazy. 852 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's crazy, and so I would love to 853 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 4: go see some of those places this year. 854 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: So good. 855 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Well. Before we get 856 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: out of here, I want to play a quick game 857 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: with you. 858 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 4: Okay. 859 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: It's a rapid fire game and it's just this or that, Okay, Okay, 860 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: Praise and worship or balla city. 861 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: M Okay, I'll say. 862 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: I'll say praise and worship, street edge or a church boy. 863 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: Come on, Jesus, Jesus, am I say church boy with 864 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: street edge. 865 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm with you all that, okay, all right, we 866 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: just did fashion week, so chanel or oh maybe okay, 867 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: love it classic? 868 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 869 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lemon pepper wings or caesar salad. 870 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm gonna sylemon, give me. 871 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: A right right salad? 872 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Balance inches and bundles or naturally stuff. 873 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: These are really the questions. These are tough because I 874 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: really love my natural hair. 875 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 4: Okay, right now, I'm gonna have to say bundles because 876 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: I'm in my Bojo era. 877 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 1: I love it and it works. I love it. Yes, 878 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I feel you a fun night out or a quiet 879 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: night in, quiet night in. I love me too, girl. Yeah. 880 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: My home body, my social battery be draining, so fan yeah, 881 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: just give me a quiet night I feel you sneakers 882 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: or heels, heels, yeah, acting or singing? 883 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: Singing? Yes. 884 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: If you could listen to only one album for the 885 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: rest of your life, not including yours, what would it be? 886 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: Okay? The emancipation of me me baby right? 887 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: So good? Shout out Mariah, you shout out Maria, so good? 888 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: Last one your favorite Bible verse? 889 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: Okay? 890 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 4: Psalm ninety four nineteen, When anxiety was great within me, 891 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 4: your consolation brought joy to my soul. 892 00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: So good? 893 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that fir saved my life. 894 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you. 895 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: Thank you. 896 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: That wraps up this round of rapid fire questions. Amazing. 897 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: I love you and I am so proud of you 898 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: for staying on this journey and finding your place in 899 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: this world where you can honor God. Thank you for 900 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: taking time to be with us. 901 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. I just want to touch agree. 902 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you and the vulnerability that you 903 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 4: just like so freely share with people with your journey matters. 904 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: Is it's important. 905 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 4: Don't let nobody condemn you. You're doing the Lord's work 906 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 4: and that's all that matters. 907 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: And I'm so proud of you. 908 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us. Of course, no pleasure. Please 909 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: come back when something else come back. You always have 910 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: a place on the couch. Thank you, absolutely, thank you. Wow, 911 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: today's episode was so amazing. I really enjoy talking to Lee. 912 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: One of my takeaways from our conversation is that your 913 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: relationship with God is uniquely your own. We can inspire 914 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: each other by being transparent about what we're going through 915 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: in our journeys because we're all going through something, but 916 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: our relationship is ours and with Him alone. So remember that, 917 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: don't compare your journey or your walk to anyone else's. 918 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: You can be inspired by people's journey in their walk, 919 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: but your relationship with Jesus Christ is yours. Thank you 920 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: all so much for spending time with me today. I 921 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: hope today's conversation inspired you all to dream big, break boundaries, 922 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: and be confident in your career and faith journey. You 923 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: guys can follow me on all social media platforms at 924 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: Love christa Renee, and you can also follow our show 925 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: at Keep It Positive sweety If you want to write 926 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: into our positive Outcomes listener letter, you can send us 927 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: an email to Keep It Positive Sweetye at gmail dot com. 928 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: In the meantime and in between time, you guys already 929 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: know what to do. Keep it positive, sweeties, I'll see 930 00:41:53,080 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: you next time. Bacon Bacon