Speaker 1: Check it on Man Down Man Thursday morning, Sepcember Beating
Speaker 1: the Book Podcast. It's Gil Alexander Mega Pod Week three
Speaker 1: the National Football League with the return of the rotating guests.
Speaker 1: I like that first of all, the staples of the show.
Speaker 1: On my right, the conciliarity Derek Stevens over there at
Speaker 1: the Circus Sports Operation, he is the vice president of operations.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, it's Mike Palm. How you doing, Mike,
Speaker 1: A little bit of a head called a little bit
Speaker 1: of a sore throat, Gail. But we're here for you.
Speaker 1: Might be mono, mono nucleosis. By the way, I'm thinking pneumonia.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that. You sound pretty excited about it. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe maybe a pneumonia. If I had mono,
Speaker 1: I'll be out of five weeks. Like Donald, I can't
Speaker 1: afford that. Well, you're not playing a contact sport. Your
Speaker 1: spleen won't be in jeopardy. I think you can still.
Speaker 1: By the way, I had mono in college. It's exhausting,
Speaker 1: the whole things exhausting. I don't know how Donald got it.
Speaker 1: It's like a freshman in college. That kid. Anyway, that's
Speaker 1: Mike Palm. On my left, Ladies and Gentlemen, the star
Speaker 1: of the Showtime docu series Action and Wednesday Staple on
Speaker 1: a numbers game at Visa every Wednesday morning, seven and
Speaker 1: nine Pacific, tend New and Eastern Ladies and Gentlemen, Todd
Speaker 1: wishing that Hello Toddy? Hey, uh, Todd? Could you recap
Speaker 1: how you did last week again on the show that
Speaker 1: was your Best Bets? How do you do on the
Speaker 1: Megapod last week? I think I was one in two.
Speaker 1: I had the Jacksonville plus eight, and I lost the
Speaker 1: Bears minus two and a half in the vic Bangio
Speaker 1: Bowl and the uh and then of course I had
Speaker 1: the over and the Saints game and Drew Breeves got injured,
Speaker 1: so that was kind of painful. I lost my teeth
Speaker 1: because of Carolina. Yeah, I lost my tease. Also, I
Speaker 1: went one in two. I did the same record week
Speaker 1: two as I did week one, neither of which is good.
Speaker 1: One and two on the Best Bets, and I blew
Speaker 1: the teaser because of Carolina. Mike, how do you do
Speaker 1: three and two? And so ka? But one and two
Speaker 1: on the megapod narrowing it down to three, so that sucks.
Speaker 1: I was three and oh with the best bets uh
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Buffalo and under in the Bears Denver game,
Speaker 1: but blew the teaser with by a point with the
Speaker 1: Baltimore I buried the headline three and oh from Mike Palm.
Speaker 1: You are pretty hot in baseball too, aren't you. Right now,
Speaker 1: we're doing okay. We were looking forward to some end
Speaker 1: game today, but one of the major providers is struggling
Speaker 1: to uh to give that option. William Hill, for I
Speaker 1: will say what Mike will not. William Hill not really
Speaker 1: providing in games today technical issues they have. According to
Speaker 1: William Hill, ladies and gentlemen, he is our rotating guests
Speaker 1: often on the megapod. He is always our first of
Speaker 1: the year and this is no different this year from Vison.
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Speaker 1: won a super contest back in Tleven with his son
Speaker 1: SUSI team. It's our friend Brady Cannon. What up, Brady?
Speaker 1: How are you? Man? Uh? You know, I appreciate you
Speaker 1: having me on to lead off I found a pretty
Speaker 1: comfortable place for myself as the leadoff man. But you know,
Speaker 1: usually week one and I always say, you know, I
Speaker 1: can make a few bone head picks and nobody cares
Speaker 1: because it's week one. You know, you're dealing with a
Speaker 1: lot of unknown and expectations are pretty low. Now you
Speaker 1: have me on in week three, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I have to sound a lot smarter. Well, no, you
Speaker 1: just be yourself as always, no matter what. I greatly
Speaker 1: appreciate you being your Rickey Henderson. Thank you you are
Speaker 1: my Ricky Henderson. By the way, when I mentioned that
Speaker 1: you were a Super Contest winner and I mentioned the
Speaker 1: year eleven, would you prefer that I no longer mentioned
Speaker 1: the year. No, No, that's a great year for me.
Speaker 1: I also won the member guest at Red Rock Country
Speaker 1: Club that year, So two thousand and eleven is uh
Speaker 1: forever etched in my personal resume. All right. You know
Speaker 1: Richard stand who won, He wants me to just shut
Speaker 1: up about the year. So because it was you know,
Speaker 1: it's old school back then and fewer contestants, so he said,
Speaker 1: it sounds has much more gravitas when I just say
Speaker 1: Super Contest winner. So okay, new format. Brady, you are
Speaker 1: familiar with the new format. We start out with thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Thursday night game today, another barn burner, Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, another barn burner on a Thursday night. Uh,
Speaker 1: Tennessee is at Jacksonville. Tennessee is a one and a
Speaker 1: half or two and a half point favorite, somewhere in
Speaker 1: that pocket. Let me give you the consensus right now.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that it's a two point consensus across the board.
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville. Gardner Minshew Uh starting for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: And this really weird thing where Jalen Ramsey wants out
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville, has demanded a trade, but will yet play
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville tonight. In fact, Adam Schefter reported there was
Speaker 1: another NFL team that called the league and said, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: if he plays for Jacksonville Thursday, can he played for
Speaker 1: us on Sunday? And the league was like, no, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. So Brady, let's start with you. You're
Speaker 1: the guest. You get honors. Any thoughts, any pre flop
Speaker 1: play on this game tonight, No free flop play. I
Speaker 1: made the Jaguars actually a one point favorite here, so
Speaker 1: I lean taking the points with him. And let's also
Speaker 1: note you guys know there's not that much of a
Speaker 1: difference between a one point favorite and a one and
Speaker 1: a half point underdog, So uh not like my line
Speaker 1: was way off. But division game, you know, the first
Speaker 1: few weeks of the season, division games typically the dog
Speaker 1: affairs pretty well. Plus the dog is at home, obviously,
Speaker 1: I think the home team tends to have an advantage
Speaker 1: on a short week. Now, there's film out on Gardner Minshew, now,
Speaker 1: so he could regress. But I think this kid is
Speaker 1: pretty good. And you know, look at the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: Mike Leach has turned out out at Washington State, Luke
Speaker 1: Falk Minshew, I wouldn't be surprised, uh if we never
Speaker 1: see Nick Foles as the starter again in Jacksonville. I
Speaker 1: think this kid is gonna be pretty good. But like
Speaker 1: you alluded to, Gil, probably a pretty typical ugly, dumb
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Um but I lean with the Jags.
Speaker 1: No play just uh just observed asition this evening, while
Speaker 1: we while we go through the in game opportunities on
Speaker 1: the green zone on Visan By the way, there you go,
Speaker 1: which is when give the hours that will be six pm?
Speaker 1: Pacific nine pm Eastern. We're on for four hours. Would
Speaker 1: go through all the in game opportunities in both baseball,
Speaker 1: college football and the Thursday night game tonight all right,
Speaker 1: VISA in the Vegas Stats and Information Network for those
Speaker 1: tuning in for the first time, Serious XM channel two
Speaker 1: oh four. UM, I am totally treating this game tonight
Speaker 1: as I did Monday Night's game, which is play it
Speaker 1: in game. It turned out to be a nice in
Speaker 1: game fest on the Browns uh and for those who
Speaker 1: went under e under, over and over on end games,
Speaker 1: was a good in game fest on Monday night. So
Speaker 1: I'll watch and I'll bet accordingly. Maybe I might throw
Speaker 1: Jacksonville into a tease because it goes through the three
Speaker 1: and the seven, maybe, although that's not going to be
Speaker 1: involved in my teaser of the week. Or maybe it
Speaker 1: will Mike anything for tonight, Flop, I'm going to take
Speaker 1: the same attitude as you, Gil. I'm gonna watch the
Speaker 1: game play out and look for an end game opportunity.
Speaker 1: But mostly I'll prob to be watching Flaherty and Hendricks tonight.
Speaker 1: Me too. I'm all about Flatty and Henders. Are you
Speaker 1: on Flaherty? I am on Flaherty. I'm heavy on Flaherty
Speaker 1: first five. Yeah, I'm first five and full on that
Speaker 1: tonight Todd. Anything on Thursday Night Football? Uh, not really.
Speaker 1: I think you guys have have you know said it all.
Speaker 1: I like Gardner Minshoot as well. You know. That's why
Speaker 1: I took back from the last week. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. But yeah, I think this is
Speaker 1: just a an in game type of opportunity. I'll be
Speaker 1: watching the college football as well as Flaherty the college
Speaker 1: football as well, Houston and tu Lane. Are you ad
Speaker 1: Eric King? Guy Todd? Do you like Derrek King? I
Speaker 1: do like Derek King. I think he's pretty good. Alright
Speaker 1: to Lane, favorite by five in that game tonight in
Speaker 1: college football as well, and the Cardinals a slight minus
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's call it minus one thirteen favorite
Speaker 1: full game against the Cubs, first of seven between those
Speaker 1: two teams, and l Central Race wild card implications for
Speaker 1: the Cubbies as well, very tight in the National League.
Speaker 1: All right, Brady, best bets? What is your number one
Speaker 1: best bet of the week, sir? Let's go to lambeau
Speaker 1: Field guilt for the Denver Broncos visiting the green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: And first off, I like a desperate oh and two
Speaker 1: team facing a two and o team. I made this
Speaker 1: line seven and a half, and early in the week
Speaker 1: you were still able to catch eight and a half
Speaker 1: with Denver still plenty of seven and a half's out there,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's bad on a neutral field.
Speaker 1: I give Green Baby edge by three and a half points. Now,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the Packers have one of the strongest
Speaker 1: home field advantages in football, and I think that can
Speaker 1: range anywhere from three to five points, probably a greater
Speaker 1: edge later in the year when the weather is more
Speaker 1: of a factor. So now still in September, let's say
Speaker 1: that home field is probably worth three or three and
Speaker 1: a half, meaning this line should be right around seven
Speaker 1: by my calculations. So I felt eight or eight and
Speaker 1: a half was a pretty good bargain, you know, better
Speaker 1: than a touchdown there. And secondly, I like the fact
Speaker 1: that Green Bay has played two straight division rivals in
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Vikings, and now they face an
Speaker 1: out a conference opponent um with a Thursday night game
Speaker 1: on tap next week and Week four against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: So I believe the scheduling spot is advantageous for Denver.
Speaker 1: Also in that Vikings game last week for the Packers
Speaker 1: again against Minnesota, very good defense, Green Bay was shut
Speaker 1: out in the second half and in second halves this
Speaker 1: season two games the Packers have only scored three points Denver.
Speaker 1: Now they bring a good defense to town two. And conversely,
Speaker 1: Denver has really kind of found its stride in the
Speaker 1: second half, scoring sixteen points against the Raiders in Week
Speaker 1: one and eleven points in the fourth quarter against Chicago.
Speaker 1: And you know, like Tod mentioned, that really should have
Speaker 1: been a w but it ended up being a loss.
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably good for us to here
Speaker 1: this week. We're probably getting an extra point two our uh,
Speaker 1: an extra point or two of value this week in
Speaker 1: the line because that did end up in the lost
Speaker 1: column for Denver. And finally, the Denver Broncos, you know,
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb von Miller, this defense is yet to record
Speaker 1: a sack this season. So I have to believe Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio is well aware of this and is putting an
Speaker 1: emphasis on getting pressure on Rogers this Sunday. And Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: he happens to be one of the leaders in the
Speaker 1: league as far as being sacked. He's been dropped seven
Speaker 1: times already this season, and this will be the third
Speaker 1: straight defensive power that he faces Chicago, Minnesota and now Denver.
Speaker 1: Broncos are currently ranked as the fourth best defense and
Speaker 1: football against the pass. And if I think they can
Speaker 1: maintain that, you know, that ability to defend the pass
Speaker 1: and also get a few sacks on Rogers, I think
Speaker 1: they can definitely stay within this number and possibly win
Speaker 1: the game. Out Right. I'm gonna even give you the
Speaker 1: seven and a half on this, Brady, because it looks
Speaker 1: consensus seven and a half. Uh, so you get the
Speaker 1: extra hook on this. I don't hate it. I will
Speaker 1: say this. Broncos left tackle Garrett Bowls, the team's top
Speaker 1: draft pick, in whistled for holding a career worst four
Speaker 1: times against the Bears. That gives him an NFL high
Speaker 1: thirty four flags in thirty four career starts. That is
Speaker 1: not good the rest of the NFL. That's right. There
Speaker 1: were two hundred I counted two hundred and fifty six
Speaker 1: penalties that were accepted this past week in the NFL. God,
Speaker 1: it's just so unwatchable. By the way, I'm gonna set
Speaker 1: up a camera in your house Brady while you're watching
Speaker 1: this game, because I want to get your face when
Speaker 1: you first see the Joe Flacco face on Sunday and
Speaker 1: you realize and you realize, God help you that you've
Speaker 1: been on the broncos of this. I don't hate the
Speaker 1: pick though, Mike Palm Mike. By the way, speaking of Denver,
Speaker 1: did you happen to catch me and Todd Wishnev talking
Speaker 1: about the two point conversion rules yesterday on the Numbers Game?
Speaker 1: Did you catch that? I? I I caught it, and Todd
Speaker 1: was not accepting of the rule. That's right, that's Todd.
Speaker 1: Todd was not very appreciative of the actual National Football
Speaker 1: League rule. I still don't. I still don't accept the rule.
Speaker 1: To clarify for those who missed it, and you could
Speaker 1: go to Visa dot com and watch the replay on
Speaker 1: Wednesday's The Numbers Game. But essentially was curious if the
Speaker 1: referees had actually spotted the ball correctly for what ended
Speaker 1: up being Denver's go ahead two point conversion at the
Speaker 1: time with less than forty seconds left in the game.
Speaker 1: And I went through a whole thing about how the
Speaker 1: refs actually got it right when they re spotted the
Speaker 1: ball for the Broncos at the one yard line after
Speaker 1: Brandon McManus missed the extra point attempt, but the Broncos
Speaker 1: were flagged for encroachment, and it was a whole lengthy thing,
Speaker 1: but um essentially, what it gets down to is in
Speaker 1: a two point try, it's not officiated like a normal
Speaker 1: football play. And so whatever happened on the previous play,
Speaker 1: the fact that the Broncos committed a delay of game
Speaker 1: penalty and then ended up choosing to kick what ended
Speaker 1: up being a thirty eight yard extra point on the encroachment,
Speaker 1: even when Brandon McManus missed it, they don't just get
Speaker 1: the ball back at the three and a half yard
Speaker 1: line from what would have been the two point conversion
Speaker 1: line of seven of the seven yard line. They get
Speaker 1: to respot it where it was before the first sequence,
Speaker 1: so they actually were corrected spotting the ball for the
Speaker 1: Broncos at the one yard line. They get the two
Speaker 1: point conversion, and as we know, thanks largely to a
Speaker 1: Bradley Chub roughing the passer penalty that was very controversial
Speaker 1: to say the least, three plays later or four plays later,
Speaker 1: uh Mitchell Trobiski was able to convert a fourth and fifteen,
Speaker 1: they stopped the clock with one second left, and Eddie
Speaker 1: Pinniro did his thing in the Bears one by two. Anyway, Mike,
Speaker 1: your best bet of the week. Kil it would have
Speaker 1: been interesting to see what Fannie Pack Fangio would have
Speaker 1: done from the three and a half, though it really
Speaker 1: really would have been right because he would have been
Speaker 1: forced to make a decision. Yeah, by the way, Fannie
Speaker 1: Pack Fangio, which I was saying on a numbers game,
Speaker 1: he's like the guy at a museum with a Fannie
Speaker 1: Pack that walks around a museum from painting and painting
Speaker 1: with his hands classed behind his back. I hear Bill
Speaker 1: Simmons is calling Fannie Pack VIC two, which I guess
Speaker 1: is easy because he doesn't wear his stuff like a
Speaker 1: Fannie Pack during the game. So we've all come to
Speaker 1: the Fannie Pack. Okay, I'm gonna give my uh first
Speaker 1: best bet. I'm gonna lay six with the Eagles against
Speaker 1: the Lions. I think there's a big coaching mismatch, in
Speaker 1: a big quarterback mismatch in this game, and if you
Speaker 1: can lay less than a touchdown, there's value here the Lions.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, we're out played for three and a
Speaker 1: half quarters against San Diego, and as Todd says, the
Speaker 1: Chargers did charge your things for the during the whole
Speaker 1: second half in order to not put that game away,
Speaker 1: in order to give up the lead, and in order
Speaker 1: to not convert on the final drive, missing field goals,
Speaker 1: not running on third and two to give the Lions
Speaker 1: that game. Their first week performance was absolutely pathetic and
Speaker 1: letting a rookie quarterback score on four consecutive drives. I'm
Speaker 1: not impressed with this Lions team. They come in undefeated
Speaker 1: at one oh and one, but I still think they're
Speaker 1: by far the worst team in the NFC Central. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the Lions defense can hold the Eagles
Speaker 1: under twenty seven in this game, and I don't see
Speaker 1: the Lions getting above seventeen. I'm willing to lay just
Speaker 1: under a touchdown. Here is my number one play. I
Speaker 1: will not waste anybody's time. Normally I will go to
Speaker 1: Todd next. That is my number one best bet as well,
Speaker 1: Mr Palm, They you very much everything you said. Lions
Speaker 1: favored by six. This is even down a bit from
Speaker 1: where it opened. I don't get that at all. I'm
Speaker 1: all about the Eagles here, I've got the Eagles on
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You're right, the Lions are one oh
Speaker 1: and one. But for all the reasons you stated snatching
Speaker 1: a tie from the jaws of victory week one and
Speaker 1: having no business winning that game last week, Chargers doing
Speaker 1: Chargers things. To quote Todd, I am on the Eagles
Speaker 1: as well as my number one best bet Todd. Sorry
Speaker 1: to jump the line, but just had to echo that
Speaker 1: I want to go with the Indianapolis Colts minus one.
Speaker 1: I see minus one, one and a half. What do
Speaker 1: you see consents that their minus one on the Colts.
Speaker 1: It is minus one, Yes, okay, so I'll take Indie
Speaker 1: minus one. All I have to do is win the
Speaker 1: game here at home against the team that I feel
Speaker 1: is like Florida State and was like the Browns, one
Speaker 1: of those talented teams that does dumb things. The Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons had the game one against the Eagles last week
Speaker 1: and almost gave it away when Matt Ryan threw the
Speaker 1: tip and absolutely unthinkable interception in the end zone to
Speaker 1: keep the Eagles in the game. Had Nelson Aguilar not
Speaker 1: dropped the touchdown on the last possession by the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they may have lost it out right. I am not
Speaker 1: impressed with Atlanta ever since their Super Bowl run. I
Speaker 1: don't like what's happening coaching there. And Frank Wreich to
Speaker 1: me as an excellent coach. I mentioned on a Numbers
Speaker 1: game how I loved fourth and inches from his own
Speaker 1: thirty five with about two twenty to go on the
Speaker 1: other team with two time outs, he decided to go
Speaker 1: for it up nineteen seventeen. I thought that was a
Speaker 1: Belichick type move. I try to go for the kill
Speaker 1: right there. I think it's a coaching mismatch as well.
Speaker 1: All I have to do is win the game here
Speaker 1: and I'm at home in the Dome. Uh in the
Speaker 1: minus one. Yeah, And the Colts last week seven of
Speaker 1: fourteen on third downs, which, if you recall, was a
Speaker 1: staple with the Eagles when Frank Reich was there along
Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson, and it was a staple with Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck and the Colts last year under Frank I himself
Speaker 1: so again setting themselves up for good third down yardage
Speaker 1: and converting at a high clip. That is always high
Speaker 1: leverage situations, the sort of runners in scoring position of football.
Speaker 1: So you have that going for you and uh, Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette coming off a win over the Titans. Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: had retired with a perfect eleven and OH record straight
Speaker 1: up against the Titans. Jacoby Brisette picking up last week
Speaker 1: where he left off Indianapolis one point favorites over the Falcons.
Speaker 1: This week, Todd on the Colts. So the best bets
Speaker 1: Number one Brady on Denver catching the points at Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Mike and I both on Philly giving the points against Detroit.
Speaker 1: Todd taking the Colts against the Falcons giving just a point.
Speaker 1: Number two best bet Brady going with another OH and
Speaker 1: two team versus a two and O team. I think
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good situation, and if you check the
Speaker 1: history on that, I think the O and two team
Speaker 1: is pretty good against the spread in a desperate situation
Speaker 1: like that. And this one, the Pittsburgh Steelers visiting the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers San France. Cisco, of course
Speaker 1: gets the win over Tampa Bay, greatly aided by the
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston picks six is the hammer Cincinnati for seventeen uh.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh gets hammered by New England and then keeps it
Speaker 1: close and lost to Seattle, even without Big Ben for
Speaker 1: most of the game with Roethlisberger. I made this game
Speaker 1: one and a half in favor of the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: And I heard Kenny White on Follow the Money on
Speaker 1: Visa and yesterday with you Mike uh say that his
Speaker 1: adjustment for Mason Rudolph is about three and a half
Speaker 1: or four points, and I would agree with that. So
Speaker 1: by my numbers, uh, that makes San Francisco about a
Speaker 1: five and a half point favorite here with Rudolph, I
Speaker 1: was able to get seven, you can still get six
Speaker 1: and a half. And I think this is the typical
Speaker 1: fallen hero theory. Right star quarterback goes down, team rallies
Speaker 1: around the new guy. And and I don't think the
Speaker 1: new guy is very bad at all. You know, I've
Speaker 1: watched this guy a little bit in relief of Roethlisberger,
Speaker 1: and I think he looks like a pretty good Arab parent. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to deal with the forty Niners pass rush,
Speaker 1: which is very good, but otherwise San Francisco is a
Speaker 1: pretty average defense versus the past, and the Steelers in
Speaker 1: two games have only given up two sacks. So I
Speaker 1: think if Rudolph, uh, you know, is able to maintain
Speaker 1: that protection, uh, he should be able to have some success.
Speaker 1: The other thing, you know, I think from kind of
Speaker 1: an emotional angle, this is San Francisco's home opener, and
Speaker 1: the fans are gonna be all raw raw, you know,
Speaker 1: look at us. We're two and oh a little, a
Speaker 1: little bit fat and sassy to quote one of your
Speaker 1: former megapod colleagues, skill And on the other side, you've
Speaker 1: got that desperate O and two team. Like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Steelers get this their ten and seven in games
Speaker 1: without Big Ben there twenty six, fourteen and one against
Speaker 1: the spread and games when they come in with a
Speaker 1: losing record, and the Niners are just one and seven
Speaker 1: against the spread coming off of back to back spread winds.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a good situation for Pittsburgh. You know,
Speaker 1: typically we do see some line value when you have
Speaker 1: the star quarterback, the star player, what have you go down,
Speaker 1: and I think it's that very next game where you
Speaker 1: can kind of catch a riled up dog. Um. I
Speaker 1: think this forty Niner team is real solid, but I
Speaker 1: don't think this is the right spot for them this week.
Speaker 1: Are you since you bring up fat and sassy, are
Speaker 1: you sprinkling a little on the money line as well?
Speaker 1: I did spreck sprinkle. I have a new policy this year.
Speaker 1: I play, you know, of my bet when I bet underdogs.
Speaker 1: I played of my bet on the UH with the points,
Speaker 1: and then I put ten percent on the money line.
Speaker 1: Well done, all right. The Niners, by the way, did
Speaker 1: that thing between their game against Tampa Bay at Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay and then at Cincinnati where they stayed out east.
Speaker 1: Stayed in Youngstown, Ohio, which is uh Eddie de Bartelow's
Speaker 1: old hometown. Uh. They are back on the West Coast
Speaker 1: for the first time since the season began. By the way, Mike,
Speaker 1: paulm and I also have the Niners to win the
Speaker 1: NFC Wests pre flop before the season started. We both
Speaker 1: are simpatico on that. What is your number two bet, Mike,
Speaker 1: Gil did you bet them to make the playoffs as well? No,
Speaker 1: I just bet them to win the NFC West at
Speaker 1: plus three. Yeah, I got three seventy five, but I
Speaker 1: also got plus one to make the players. It's a
Speaker 1: good start with two road wins, Yes it is. I
Speaker 1: hope they win, but I hope they win by they
Speaker 1: win by four. For you, Brady, Okay, we'll take that take.
Speaker 1: Was that offered at circle. By the way, Mike that
Speaker 1: on the playoffs, it was yes, No, we're also offered
Speaker 1: at circle. All right, Our our second bet won't be
Speaker 1: the same, Gil, I'm gonna go with a total here
Speaker 1: the Jets and Patriots under forty four. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to have New England score forty five to
Speaker 1: get over this total. The Jets, I know they're missing
Speaker 1: the linebacker, but the Jets, the Jets defense is not awful.
Speaker 1: Um and as evidenced you know on Monday night when
Speaker 1: the offense couldn't get a first down and backed up
Speaker 1: every drive, and and Cleveland was getting field position at
Speaker 1: at the at their thirty or better all night and
Speaker 1: holding them to twenty three points. I think Falk here,
Speaker 1: they're gonna treat him with baby gloves. This is probably
Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. In New England. They'll
Speaker 1: try to run the ball. Bell played very well. I
Speaker 1: was very impressed with Bell on Monday Night. He played
Speaker 1: hard in that loss, even when the game was out
Speaker 1: of reach. I think you'll see heavy dose as a
Speaker 1: Bell in the short passing game that that suits at
Speaker 1: Washington State quarterback. And I think you'll see a heavy
Speaker 1: dose of the running game from the Patriots as well.
Speaker 1: I just think the New England's gotta get over forty
Speaker 1: to put this game over, so we'll go under in Foxboro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those when you do the whole total
Speaker 1: conflation thing with the spread and again to historic spreads,
Speaker 1: New England twenty two point favorite consensus over the Jets
Speaker 1: right now as we do this show, and of course
Speaker 1: Dallas twenty let's call that twenty two as well right
Speaker 1: now favorites over Miami. Those right now would be the
Speaker 1: sixth highest spreads in modern football history. I'm talking taking
Speaker 1: it all the way back to the seventies when they
Speaker 1: took record of these things. So there's only five games
Speaker 1: with larger spreads than that. By the way, the first
Speaker 1: time that two of these is existed in the same
Speaker 1: week since the strike game in seven when the Niners
Speaker 1: and Cowboys were both spreads of this size. But to
Speaker 1: your point, New England, if you do the conflation with
Speaker 1: the total, they would have to win this game about
Speaker 1: thirty three to eleven, right to be right on the
Speaker 1: number and the total itself, and you don't see the
Speaker 1: Jets scoring at all. Is basically the handicap there. Todd
Speaker 1: your number two picks, sir. Yeah, I was gonna say, Mike,
Speaker 1: do you like under ten and a half team total jets.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume you're gonna say, yeah, I love that, Todd,
Speaker 1: I love it. That's what I That's what I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna say too. I like that too. Um Okay,
Speaker 1: my second pick is going to be the under in
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears Washington Redskins game. I've seen enough of
Speaker 1: Mr Trobinsky to realize that he is abhorrent, abhorrent on
Speaker 1: the football, abhorrent. Yes, I just don't know how to
Speaker 1: describe him. I know that Naggie's gonna just keep bubble
Speaker 1: wrapping him all season, trying to make sure he doesn't
Speaker 1: blow the game for them. I still think the Bears
Speaker 1: defense is fantastic. They played amazing against Denver, as I
Speaker 1: thought they was that week. Uh that in that travesty
Speaker 1: of justice game in in Denver until maybe the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: But even in the fourth quarter, they had a fourth
Speaker 1: and ten and a fourth and three that Denver had
Speaker 1: to get in order to you know, get the game
Speaker 1: to almost tied or whatever happened at the end there.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking the Bears can hold Washington to fourteen
Speaker 1: to seventeen points. I don't think our boy Trabinsky can
Speaker 1: get us more than seventeen to twenty even against a
Speaker 1: Redskins defense and doesn't look real good. So maybe like
Speaker 1: seventeen game or something like that, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: we end up going under the what do you have
Speaker 1: as the prevailing number there? Forty one, forty one and
Speaker 1: a half one on the U, forty one on the button.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go under forty one in Washington and
Speaker 1: the Bears. Yeah, Redskins were without Darius Guice last week,
Speaker 1: without Jordan Read, without Jonathan Allen, without Quentin Dunbar, so
Speaker 1: they're already a mash unit Chicago Washington another primetime barn burner. Uh.
Speaker 1: And by the way, as someone who uh you know,
Speaker 1: had season tickets at RFK Stadium growing up and who
Speaker 1: had the displeasure of attending games at FedEx Field, let
Speaker 1: me tell you that that place will be like a
Speaker 1: morgue on Monday night, So there will be no home
Speaker 1: field advantage, there will be no crowd that will spur
Speaker 1: the Redskins onto offensive greatness. Under for wishing number two,
Speaker 1: my number two pick is uh. Hey, look, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be boring. I'm taking the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Omaha Chiefs against the Baltimore Ravens, and I am
Speaker 1: laying the number. The Ravens first two games of the year,
Speaker 1: they crushed the Miami Dolphins. It's a throwout for me
Speaker 1: because I think the Dolphins could be historically bad. Last week,
Speaker 1: the Ravens had all kinds of trouble with Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and the Zona Cardinals. That was a field goal game
Speaker 1: late Ravens ended up winning by six. Yes, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: did make key throws in that game, but there's nothing
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs, nothing that leads me to believe that
Speaker 1: they can't cover a sub touchdown spread against the Ravens
Speaker 1: team this game at Arrowhead, give me the Chiefs. I'm
Speaker 1: laying the six. Last week, the Chiefs did not score
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, did not score in the second half,
Speaker 1: but a Doug Williams like second quarter against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: even without Tyreek Hill, they don't appear to have missed
Speaker 1: a beat, even without Kareem Hunt. Until I see the
Speaker 1: Chiefs stopped, I'm just gonna pound them into oblivion. Chiefs
Speaker 1: giving the six at home against the Ravens. That's my
Speaker 1: second pick, final one, Brady. My third game is the
Speaker 1: Chargers hosting the Texans, and I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: favorite here, Chargers minus three. Uh. It seems like we
Speaker 1: often see the Chargers have that away game, you know,
Speaker 1: early in the season when they're favored, uh in laying
Speaker 1: a you know, they come in with a lot of
Speaker 1: high hopes and and then they do something like they
Speaker 1: did last week at Detroit. And keep in mind too,
Speaker 1: if Rivers throws a touchdown instead of an interception on
Speaker 1: that last play, they win the game. So, you know,
Speaker 1: despite an otherwise pretty sloppy performance. Um. So, you know,
Speaker 1: like the Denver game with them actually ended up ending
Speaker 1: up in the lost column. The Chargers to probably some
Speaker 1: line value here too because they took a loss rather
Speaker 1: than getting an impressive win on the road. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I don't think Houston is very good. Uh. Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe one of the greatest guys uh personally
Speaker 1: in the NFL and and real joy to watch, but
Speaker 1: he's already been sacked this season ten times, and now
Speaker 1: he's going to face a Chargers defense, uh, past defense
Speaker 1: that's eighth in the league, and Houston ranks in the
Speaker 1: bottom ten in the league on defense both against the
Speaker 1: run and the pass, and the Chargers conversely are the
Speaker 1: fourth best total offense in the league. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a midst mismatch of sorts. There. Get this too,
Speaker 1: you guys, remember how the Chargers were always a thorn
Speaker 1: in the side of Peyton Manning and the Colts. They
Speaker 1: have really been a thorn in the side of the
Speaker 1: entire a f C South Division Jaguars Titans. They're sixteen
Speaker 1: and three straight up and seventeen and two against the
Speaker 1: spread versus the a f C South. They're also six
Speaker 1: and oh against the number against the Texans. I think
Speaker 1: they rebound here back home off the loss to Detroit.
Speaker 1: I think they win this one by anywhere from seven
Speaker 1: to ten points. You are a brave, brave man, Brady Cannon,
Speaker 1: betting this game here betting the Chargers. To me, by
Speaker 1: the way, at the end of the show, when we
Speaker 1: do the final two questions and what's the game I
Speaker 1: want no part of on the side, this might be
Speaker 1: my answer on this game. To your point about Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: Let's start there eighth straight game last week in which
Speaker 1: he's been sacked at least four times. Think about that,
Speaker 1: half a season, half a regular season, eight straight games
Speaker 1: the equivalent of in which he's been sacked at least
Speaker 1: four times. That ties him, by the way for the
Speaker 1: NFL record with Blake Bortle and Jeff George back in Yeah,
Speaker 1: for the longestreak of games with the least four sacks
Speaker 1: since it became an official state. Two. Laramie Tunzil does
Speaker 1: not appear to be helping Deshaun Watson was a little
Speaker 1: banged up himself. He was Deshaun Watson was sacked, for
Speaker 1: those who don't remember, an NFL high sixty two times
Speaker 1: last season. But on the Charger side, you know, like
Speaker 1: all these teams, nine penalties for seventy yards last week,
Speaker 1: two horrible turnovers, Ekeler at the one yard line. He's
Speaker 1: got a bit of a fumble problem, I think, as
Speaker 1: great as he has been. Uh, Philip Rivers another just
Speaker 1: ridiculously key interception the Chargers. And this is the most
Speaker 1: charger set of them all. Six red zone turnovers since
Speaker 1: the start of last year. Six That will just kill
Speaker 1: you time and time again. But you're on the Chargers
Speaker 1: minus three. That's the pick. They always have one of
Speaker 1: those games where they get it worked out, and I
Speaker 1: think this could be it right here this week. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: so your three picks, then once again, rattle throw mare.
Speaker 1: I've got Denver plus eight is where I got it. Um,
Speaker 1: you can still get seven and a half. Um. I
Speaker 1: took the Steelers plus seven. You can still get six
Speaker 1: and a half. And I've got the Chargers minus three
Speaker 1: minus some juice minus one twenty Joe Flacco, Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: without Big Ben and Anthony Lynn and the l A Chargers.
Speaker 1: You are you are a brave man. The poo poo
Speaker 1: platter from Cannon. Let's go to Let's go to Mike
Speaker 1: Palm pick number three from you, Mike, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the same game Brady had his his first pick
Speaker 1: up at Lambeau. But I'm gonna play this game under
Speaker 1: the forty three. I agree with him about the Denver
Speaker 1: defense and Fangio and and the need to generate a
Speaker 1: pass rush here, and also Matt Lafleur's new offense with
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Let's think about this. They've really only scored
Speaker 1: points in two quarters through of the eight quarters they've played.
Speaker 1: The Vikings have slutely shut them down for the last
Speaker 1: three quarters of that game. I think this game will
Speaker 1: be played with long, methodical drives for field goals. And
Speaker 1: I actually think this number came back awful high. I
Speaker 1: would put it somewhere around forty one. Um. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that on a grass field you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a scoring fest up there at Lambo. So third play
Speaker 1: is Packers Broncos undt Okay, So you got Philly against
Speaker 1: the number, and you're under in the New England game,
Speaker 1: and you're under in the Green Bay Denver game. Those
Speaker 1: are Those are Mike's three picks. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Fangio comment this is more to Todd's last pick if
Speaker 1: Denver excuse me, if if Chicago doesn't hit that field goal,
Speaker 1: If Eddie Panneiro misses that field goal and the Bears lose,
Speaker 1: the Bears would have been oh in two having given
Speaker 1: up twenty four total points. That would have sucked a
Speaker 1: big time. Todd, what's your final pick? My final pick
Speaker 1: is a under in the Chargers Houston game. I see
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half or forty nine. What would
Speaker 1: you put that one down? As gilt and a half?
Speaker 1: Pretty much across the board. Okay, so let's go under
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half in the Houston Texans charter
Speaker 1: the game. The reasoning being Bill O'Brien loves to run
Speaker 1: the football. The Chargers are actually a team that doesn't
Speaker 1: really score that fast. They usually go on these long
Speaker 1: seven minute drives. They run it with elo, they throw
Speaker 1: to the tight end. Um. I think that Houston as
Speaker 1: well is kind of you know, even the game against
Speaker 1: the Saints, which was a high scoring game, was only
Speaker 1: forty seven points. Had there not been those ridiculousness of
Speaker 1: the last thirty seven seconds, it would have been instead
Speaker 1: of UM. And that was of course in the Dome
Speaker 1: against New Orleans. I think these teams want to run
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think forty eight and a half
Speaker 1: is a very high number in the NFL, especially in
Speaker 1: a Bill O'Brien game. Bill O'Brien is the kind of
Speaker 1: guy will always give himself an excuse to run the ball.
Speaker 1: First intent between the tackles. Second intent, Oh, we gotta
Speaker 1: get Built back behind the stick, for he's he's inevitable
Speaker 1: with his uh, you know, two yard runs on second
Speaker 1: and ten. I think the the I just feel that
Speaker 1: this game is an under type of game. Houston played
Speaker 1: a very under ish game last week, and the Chargers
Speaker 1: played that game against the Colts that could have ended
Speaker 1: or definitely under the number had they not made Charger
Speaker 1: ass mistakes. So I'm gonna go under forty eight and
Speaker 1: a half in the Houston l a Charger game from
Speaker 1: my third pick. And what are your three in total?
Speaker 1: Indie minus one, under forty one in Washington against the Bears,
Speaker 1: and under forty eight and a half in Houston against
Speaker 1: the chart and it is forty eight and a half
Speaker 1: consensus my three once again, My first two anyway were
Speaker 1: Philadelphia minus six versus Detroit, Kansas City minus six versus Baltimore,
Speaker 1: and my third Cincinnati catching six at Buffalo. Look, I
Speaker 1: love all the Buffalo love there. Two and oh they've
Speaker 1: beaten the Jets and the Giants, same away stadium, just
Speaker 1: a stone's throwaway from Buffalo. Good for them. I'm very
Speaker 1: happy for them. It's their first two and oh start
Speaker 1: in five years, just the third and eleven years with
Speaker 1: those wins over the Jets and the Giants. By the
Speaker 1: way they did against the Giants on the strength of
Speaker 1: three straight touchdown drives of seventy five seventy and ninety
Speaker 1: eight yards, but the Bills penalty plague nine for sixty
Speaker 1: five yards. And while the Bengals did get murdered by
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, ultimately last week, I had the Bengals
Speaker 1: at Seattle Week one catching all those points. They were
Speaker 1: catching nine points. They ended up losing by one. There
Speaker 1: is nothing here that tells me the Bills should be
Speaker 1: giving six on guessing lines. I guess this as four. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go through a key number. That six is
Speaker 1: pretty important to me. I will happily take the six points.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton forty two for three eleven in that game
Speaker 1: against the Niners last week, two touchdowns, one pick. He
Speaker 1: was sacked four times. The Bengals are gonna have to
Speaker 1: clean that up, but Tyler Boyd keeps getting it done.
Speaker 1: Ten catches a twenty two yards. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Bills stopped that connection. They did only have twenty five
Speaker 1: yards rushing for the Bengals, but that had a ot
Speaker 1: to do with them falling behind as well. Give me
Speaker 1: the points. I'll take the Bengals. That's pick number three.
Speaker 1: So it's Eagles, Chiefs and Bengals for me. My top
Speaker 1: three picks another oh and two against the two and
Speaker 1: oh to gil. That's right, another oh and two against
Speaker 1: the two and oh on the road the Brady Cannon Special,
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Speaker 1: Before we get to the teaser of the week of
Speaker 1: the final two questions. Mike Contest Update through two weeks,
Speaker 1: sir yes, um. We have two entries from the same
Speaker 1: person that are nine oh and one nine and a
Speaker 1: half points, and then a handful at nine and one.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty significant to drop off and then uh
Speaker 1: and then around close to fifty that are at eight
Speaker 1: and two. So very interesting after this week to see
Speaker 1: how many people are are within maybe two games of
Speaker 1: the lead, positioning themselves for that first September payout of
Speaker 1: a hundred forty three thousand seven. Hut, God, that is
Speaker 1: the best. I mean, look, the best part of the
Speaker 1: circum million is that's a million dollars to the winner.
Speaker 1: But other than that the quarterly prize of a hundred
Speaker 1: forty three thousand todd You're not going to win the
Speaker 1: quarterly prize, but you're six and four through two weeks,
Speaker 1: which puts you in what three d and fifty seventh
Speaker 1: place I believe it is, which is a really good start.
Speaker 1: As long as you're six, you can talk about it
Speaker 1: freely because you're doing well. You gotta be happy with
Speaker 1: your start. I would have been happier had that Vick fans,
Speaker 1: you know, not not happened in my Bears two and
Speaker 1: a half. Well, there's always that, there's always that twenty
Speaker 1: three people, twenty three entries that didn't submit picks week one,
Speaker 1: and I believe eleven in week two. I would be curious.
Speaker 1: I guess there's no way of knowing this because the
Speaker 1: people who don't submit entries immediately get the O and five.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there was anybody who did submit
Speaker 1: two weeks who just simply went oh and five or
Speaker 1: oh four and one both weeks, that would not be
Speaker 1: a good start. Gentlemen, Teaser of the week six point
Speaker 1: two teamers or if you want to go more than
Speaker 1: two teams, you're welcome to do that. To Mike was Brady,
Speaker 1: we'll start with you. Well, this is a little bit outdated.
Speaker 1: I I'm guessing, or I was guessing that Cam Newton
Speaker 1: was going to play in the line would close you
Speaker 1: know right where we see it, uh two and a
Speaker 1: half or three in favor of Carolina. But it looks
Speaker 1: like there's been some sort of announcement because now I'm
Speaker 1: seeing Arizona favored by two and a half points, so
Speaker 1: that kind of throws my theory out here. I was
Speaker 1: wanting to take Arizona as a home dog and tease
Speaker 1: it up to eight and a half or nine. Um,
Speaker 1: I made the game pick them. Uh so if I
Speaker 1: could get three or three and a half, I might
Speaker 1: like Arizona anyway. But you know, I was thinking that
Speaker 1: this line was to hold Newton was going to be
Speaker 1: cleared to play. I would like the teaser better. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that that is live anymore. Unfortunately, it
Speaker 1: looks like that's changed here in the last twenty minutes
Speaker 1: or so, so I'll have to find another leg to
Speaker 1: this teaser. But I like the Vikings on the other end,
Speaker 1: teasing them down to either two and a half or three.
Speaker 1: Still a couple of lingering eight and a half's out
Speaker 1: there on the Vikings, so you could tease it down
Speaker 1: under a field goal. I think this team is pretty
Speaker 1: darn good. Should have beaten Green Bay at least covered
Speaker 1: the number. And I think the Raiders are about what
Speaker 1: we thought. They were, not awful but probably below average,
Speaker 1: So Minnesota they should win this game. And I think
Speaker 1: being being a winner by a field goal is not
Speaker 1: asking too much I made the number eight and a half,
Speaker 1: so I'm right there where this spread is. I think
Speaker 1: altering this by six points is a big advantage. So
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Minnesota to whom on the teaser, Well, I
Speaker 1: was wanting to tease Arizona up from plus two and
Speaker 1: a half to plus eight and a half. But like
Speaker 1: I say, it looks like the favorite is flipped. There.
Speaker 1: There must be some news on Cam Newton not playing
Speaker 1: in this game. Let me ask you this, would you
Speaker 1: consider teasing Minnesota with Carolina through through the three and
Speaker 1: the seven, because do you really think there's a drop
Speaker 1: off here from Cam Newton, the Cam Newton we've gotten
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of the season to Kyle Allen.
Speaker 1: Because my whole thing is Cam Newton could not have
Speaker 1: been worse the last time we saw him, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that the Carolina Panthers are any worse without him,
Speaker 1: So for me, I almost consider that. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: hear you, and I thought about that too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love teasing uh up off of a two and
Speaker 1: a half, you know, and catching eight and a half,
Speaker 1: But I also love Arizona as a home dog, whether
Speaker 1: it's just with the points or a tease or what
Speaker 1: have you. So no that I'd have to pass on
Speaker 1: this at this point unless we change again. All right,
Speaker 1: we have a pass on the teaser. Then from Brady,
Speaker 1: Canada with the lakes got in half of it, but
Speaker 1: show here it flipped on me. That's all right, open teaser. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To Brady's point, Arizona now coming up as two and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites before the Cam Newton News, Carolina
Speaker 1: was the road two and a half point favorite. Mike
Speaker 1: Palm to team teaser. What you got doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be two teams, by the way, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a two teams, Gil through the seven and the three
Speaker 1: to two and a half, and I'm gonna use one
Speaker 1: of your best bets and tease the Chiefs down to
Speaker 1: a pick. Okay, but here's the thing. It's the teaserproof nine.
Speaker 1: So it really gets you too. Three You still want it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Okay. There's a couple eight and a
Speaker 1: halfs out there. Okay, I'm looking off shore. I don't
Speaker 1: see any but Minnesota. To whom again, Mike, I missed
Speaker 1: it to uh your Chiefs down to Okay, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like both of them. Todd. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tease green Bay down to a half from seven and
Speaker 1: a half. You know, I understand that Denver is oh
Speaker 1: and two in green Bay is two and oh. But
Speaker 1: Denver did end up covering that game in green Bay,
Speaker 1: you know, didn't look as great against Minnesota in the
Speaker 1: final three quarters. So uh, you know, I think they
Speaker 1: may come to play here against Denver. I just don't believe,
Speaker 1: you know, I watched that whole Denver Oakland Raiders game.
Speaker 1: Forget this Bears game, but the Denver Oakland Raiders game.
Speaker 1: I mean, Denver looked just absolutely horrendous against Oakland. It's
Speaker 1: not very good. So I just think green Bay can
Speaker 1: somehow come out with a win here. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take um green Bay down to a half and tease
Speaker 1: it with the San Francisco forty Niners down to a half.
Speaker 1: As we would it be one and a half, green
Speaker 1: Bay would be one and a half. Right, from seven
Speaker 1: and a half down to one and a half in
Speaker 1: San Francisco down to point five, from six and a
Speaker 1: half down to point five. I don't think the Steelers
Speaker 1: are good anymore. I didn't think they were going to
Speaker 1: be that great this year coming in even with Big Ben.
Speaker 1: I think Antonio Brown is a gigantic uh loss because
Speaker 1: I don't think Juju smith Schuster is the number one.
Speaker 1: Last week's game against Seattle is really misleading because two
Speaker 1: of the touchdowns were gifts. They got two fumbles. They
Speaker 1: gave really really short fields, one for Mason Rudolph and
Speaker 1: one for Big Ben. Uh. In order to get it
Speaker 1: even just six or the game could have easily been
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. And Jimmy g looks great to me.
Speaker 1: I love Shanahan over Tomlin. All I have to do
Speaker 1: is win the game. Give me San Francisco with Green Bay,
Speaker 1: just to win those games one and a half and
Speaker 1: minus a half. Boys, I'm taking five teaser leg so
Speaker 1: you're ready for this three point five to one pay
Speaker 1: out five team. These are the five legs I love.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the five, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick a two within that, but I'm also gonna bet
Speaker 1: the five. I like Jacksonville on the teaser tonight, cheese
Speaker 1: it through the three through the seven. Uh, that'll get
Speaker 1: you to eight. Jacksonville catching eight tonight on Sunday. I
Speaker 1: like four other teaser legs, some of which have been
Speaker 1: mentioned here. I like Kansas City obviously on the teaser.
Speaker 1: I like them A T. S. I like him on
Speaker 1: the teaser that would just basically put it at a
Speaker 1: pick them. I love the Eagles, that would take it
Speaker 1: down to a pick them as well. Against the Lions,
Speaker 1: I have m A T. S as well. Uh. San Francisco.
Speaker 1: To your point, Todd, I like teasing that down to
Speaker 1: minus half a point. They would be a teaser leg.
Speaker 1: I like and Minnesota, which Mike Paul mentioned. It is
Speaker 1: a little teaser proof because you don't get it through
Speaker 1: the three. But I do like Minnesota minus three against Oakland.
Speaker 1: I like all five of those Jacksonville, Kansas City, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Minnesota. I'm doing all five three point five
Speaker 1: to one pay out. If I had to pick two, though,
Speaker 1: I would take my two A T. S picks, I
Speaker 1: would just take Philadelphia in Kansas City and do it
Speaker 1: that way. But I'm going crazy and I'm playing all
Speaker 1: five on those final two questions. Gentlemen, final two questions.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we are gonna learn a lot
Speaker 1: about Mike Tomlin and to some extent, Sean Payton as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: With their quarterback injuries to Ben Roethlisberger and uh Drew Brees, respectively,
Speaker 1: it will be very interesting to see final two questions, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: The first of which is, of all the big favorites
Speaker 1: on the board, which in your opinion is the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose outright? And we will define these as
Speaker 1: six point favorites are greater for this week's purposes. The
Speaker 1: candidates are Green Bay giving seven and a half to
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, Kansas City six to Baltimore, Buffalo giving
Speaker 1: six at home to Cincinnati, New England giving twenty two
Speaker 1: at home to the Jets, the Vikings giving nine at
Speaker 1: home to the Raiders, the Cowboys giving let's call it
Speaker 1: twenty one and a half now at home against the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, Tampa Bay Buccaneers giving six and a half
Speaker 1: to the Daniel Jones at New York Giants, and finally
Speaker 1: the Niners giving six at home to Pittsburgh. As we mentioned,
Speaker 1: which of those, in your opinion, Brady is the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose out right? Well, you know, I like
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Broncos plus the points, and you
Speaker 1: also know in the NFL, um you know, if you
Speaker 1: can just pick the winner. Often the spread doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, those two would be on my radar.
Speaker 1: But I actually think that Giants have a chance to
Speaker 1: beat Tampa Bay out right. I made this game three
Speaker 1: and a half and we're getting nearly a touchdown here.
Speaker 1: I kind of think the team, the Giants is probably
Speaker 1: happy with the move to Daniel Jones. I think they
Speaker 1: probably feel that this is a bit of an inspiration.
Speaker 1: They knew they weren't making any progress with ELI and
Speaker 1: this gives them some hope, maybe kind of a fresh start.
Speaker 1: And who is Tampa Bay. They got rolled by the
Speaker 1: Niners and they beat to, uh, what appears to be
Speaker 1: a below average Panthers team. And if you remember last season,
Speaker 1: the Giants lost to Jacksonville and the opener, and then
Speaker 1: they lost to Dallas and then at oh and two,
Speaker 1: they went on the road and they beat the Texans
Speaker 1: in Houston. And it seems like a very similar pattern
Speaker 1: here where they go on the road at owen two
Speaker 1: and beat Tampa Bay. Uh. They also have a winnable
Speaker 1: game at home next week. I apologize Gil against the Redskins,
Speaker 1: so they have to realize that they could be back
Speaker 1: to two and two here. Real quick and have their
Speaker 1: season back. Tampa Bay. Never a bad choice, is the
Speaker 1: answer to that question, Tampa Bay giving six and a half.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Daniel Jones. I think the Giants
Speaker 1: are far better off. They should have done it from
Speaker 1: the beginning. I don't understand why they played Eli at all. Mike,
Speaker 1: same question, Big Favorite, most likely lose that right, same answer,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay. I debate between them and and
Speaker 1: Frisco San Francisco, but boy, that Steelers defense was so
Speaker 1: bad in the second half against Seattle. I think you know,
Speaker 1: they had every right to win the game with Rudolph
Speaker 1: if they'd have ever made Seattle punt the ball. But
Speaker 1: they could. I'll go. I'll go with the fact that
Speaker 1: there's a shot you get two or three turnovers on
Speaker 1: a Winston and Daniel Jones takes care of the ball.
Speaker 1: So I'll say Tampa Bay. I agree with all of that.
Speaker 1: As much as I wanted to say San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: kept coming back to the Pittsburgh defense. And for those
Speaker 1: of us who had Pittsburgh last week, we did not
Speaker 1: lose that bet because Big Ben went out. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: we did not. It was because exactly what Mike just said.
Speaker 1: They could not get the Seattle offense off the field.
Speaker 1: I'll give mine in a minute, Todd, You're answer to
Speaker 1: that question, big favorite, most like to lose that, right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say
Speaker 1: that the Kansas City Chiefs. I know everyone's in love
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs. I saw a little Golden
Speaker 1: State warrior itis last week against the Raiders, especially the
Speaker 1: second half. Uh me, it looked like Mahomes was a
Speaker 1: little disinterested because they knew they could win so easily.
Speaker 1: I don't like that out of my quarterback. I think.
Speaker 1: You know, if you remember Golden State last year during
Speaker 1: the season pretty much didn't even try at all. And um,
Speaker 1: there was a little of that in the second half
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. I just did like what I what
Speaker 1: I saw there. Uh And then Baltimore. Here's why I mean.
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is a very good coach in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and you know, of course Andy Reid is as well.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I could see John Harbaugh coming
Speaker 1: in here and getting a couple of turnovers and and
Speaker 1: the almighty great Kansas City Chiefs, you know, having a
Speaker 1: little mistake against Baltimore. I like to take teams that
Speaker 1: are I consider good teams in this kind of you know,
Speaker 1: big dog spot, so I'll love with Baltimore. I feel
Speaker 1: you on the choice. I understand the reasoning for it.
Speaker 1: I am on the Chiefs, but I understand the reasoning.
Speaker 1: For me, it's either Tampa Bay or Buffalo. I noticed
Speaker 1: that none of you gravitated towards Buffalo. Feels uh feels
Speaker 1: like y'all are very bullish on the Bills. I am
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati against the spread. But the answer to this
Speaker 1: question for me is still Tampa Bay, which might be
Speaker 1: interesting to folks because Tampa Bay with Jameis Winston, I
Speaker 1: have no trust, no trust in him not throwing a
Speaker 1: key interception. So for me, I will say the Buccaneer
Speaker 1: as well. And I do expect big things from Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's nearly as bad as people made
Speaker 1: him out to be. Yes, perhaps they drafted him too early,
Speaker 1: but he I think will be a tremendous improvement over
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. So my answer would be Tampa Bay. The
Speaker 1: last question is the Bizarro question. If we lived in
Speaker 1: a Bizarro world, we had to bet a side on
Speaker 1: every single one of these sixteen NFL games this week,
Speaker 1: no buys, but we got one free pass, Brady. One
Speaker 1: game you did not have to play on the spread,
Speaker 1: what would it be? You know? For me, I don't
Speaker 1: want any part of Baltimore Kansas City, and I think
Speaker 1: I know you're on Kansas City Guild, but I think
Speaker 1: it's a sexy pick for a lot of people right
Speaker 1: now to take the Ravens and the points. But you know,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was a play by a lot of wise guys
Speaker 1: in the off season heading into Week one against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and then we saw the Raiders get a ton of
Speaker 1: attention last week, plus the points there at home, and
Speaker 1: it seems like if you play on the Chiefs as
Speaker 1: a favorite, it's being dubbed like a square play. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I don't know how square it is
Speaker 1: at all. I actually liked them in Week one, but
Speaker 1: I did not play. It didn't do anything with the
Speaker 1: Raider game either, But I do not want to mess
Speaker 1: with this team right now. Great game late in the
Speaker 1: season last year with the Ravens, and I know they
Speaker 1: have revenge here, but I'm just gonna hope that this
Speaker 1: game is is as good as it was last year
Speaker 1: and sit back and watch and not bet because I could,
Speaker 1: you know, like you kind of said, Gil, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: laying less than the touchdown. I think they can beat
Speaker 1: almost anybody in the league by double digits. But I
Speaker 1: do give Baltimore a very good fighting chance here. And
Speaker 1: to Todd's point about Harbaugh, absolutely so. Um, I can't
Speaker 1: find a real edge either way, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: watch what ought to be a good one Baltimore Kansas
Speaker 1: City Brady's game that he wants. Absolutely, Brady would rather
Speaker 1: take a side what you're saying. You'd rather take a
Speaker 1: side in the Jets New England or Cowboys Miami game
Speaker 1: either way, and those are cop out skill that's not
Speaker 1: good for the show. Well no, no, I mean would
Speaker 1: I mean I think that it's still applies right, even
Speaker 1: if the spread was seventy right, it would it still
Speaker 1: applies to this question? Yeah, no, I I don't want
Speaker 1: any part of those either, But I understand. I thought
Speaker 1: this one was kind of a more real answer that
Speaker 1: I think how many people are really going to be
Speaker 1: betting those games anyway? True that to some bookmakers on
Speaker 1: decent that they'll probably not get a lot of handle
Speaker 1: on those games. Um, this is a marquee game that
Speaker 1: I don't want to get involved with. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 1: guy that has a parlay with Alabama, I believe in
Speaker 1: Alabama and somebody else Georgia, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia. And then
Speaker 1: I think he had the Cowboys or something, Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Patriots all against the number for a four team
Speaker 1: parlay against the number for ten thousand dollars. How about
Speaker 1: that Mike game? You want no part of it? In Glendale,
Speaker 1: Arizona the Cameless Panthers against the Cardinals. I really have
Speaker 1: no feel for this game. I've thought about. Your point
Speaker 1: isn't really a downgrade. I'm I did not see a
Speaker 1: lot of that ere Zona Baltimore game. I don't. I
Speaker 1: still I guess Arizona's performed better than I thought they
Speaker 1: would to come out with a year. But this game,
Speaker 1: hovering one way or the other within two points, I
Speaker 1: want no part of it. I am going to guess
Speaker 1: that that is the least selected game in Circle this
Speaker 1: this week. That is my hunch. You're probably right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe that to be the case. Todd, What do
Speaker 1: you want no part of I don't want any part
Speaker 1: of the Saint Seattle game, because I don't know Bridgewater
Speaker 1: really is as bad as he looked in the game
Speaker 1: against the Rams, or was it just that he was
Speaker 1: thrown in there with no preparation. Which which Bridgewater are
Speaker 1: we gonna get this week? Who knows? Um? You know, Seattle,
Speaker 1: you know they won that game against the Bengals, they
Speaker 1: won the game against the Steelers. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: But mostly I don't know what I'm going to get
Speaker 1: from Bridgewater. I may end up picking Seattle in circle
Speaker 1: for the contest, but I totally will agree that that
Speaker 1: will that will be what will go rattling through my brain.
Speaker 1: Who am I against the Bridgewater from you know, the
Speaker 1: scouting reports that we went from Minnesota that we all
Speaker 1: thought was so good or whatever that was last week?
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. For me, it's Houston and
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I know that's one of your picks, Brady
Speaker 1: on the Chargers. Houston is one of these teams. I
Speaker 1: think Tennessee's the other. It used to be the Dolphins
Speaker 1: for many years, but now I have a very good grasp,
Speaker 1: as we all do, on what the Dolphins are. But
Speaker 1: I think if you were to tell me what are
Speaker 1: the what are the NFL teams through two weeks that
Speaker 1: you have so least grasp on. For me, it's Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I still don't really get their identity, and I just
Speaker 1: have no idea what I'm getting from the Texans from
Speaker 1: week to week. I just I really don't. We've seen
Speaker 1: it through two weeks also, uh. And then the Chargers,
Speaker 1: as much as I want to love them, they just
Speaker 1: are the most like no team snatches defeat from the
Speaker 1: jaws of victory as much as that team does. And
Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier. So for me, it's Houston
Speaker 1: and the Chargers. One of five afternoon games UH this week,
Speaker 1: eight early, five late. So that's better than the ten
Speaker 1: three ratio we've got last week. Thank goodness, gentlemen, appreciate it.
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