Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is
Speaker 1: dj en Vi, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God. We all
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club got a special guest in the building,
Speaker 1: d Man the math Man. And I'm surprised you're here
Speaker 1: because I read all. I didn't read it. I saw
Speaker 1: the interview with a Post Live and you said you
Speaker 1: don't like doing interviews with hip hop outlets because they
Speaker 1: take things out of context a lot. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: ain't your hip hop right, absolutely not. This is the
Speaker 1: right place to do a lot. But it don't matter anyway,
Speaker 1: and stuff I say a lot of things. This is
Speaker 1: very true. So Matthew got a lot going on right now.
Speaker 1: Obviously we know you're here for the movie train Wreck
Speaker 1: and needs a lot of people in the John Cena, Lebron, James, Tilda,
Speaker 1: She's though, Tilda Swinton, she's good in the movie. Colin Quinn,
Speaker 1: how long has it been since y'all heard that name? Man?
Speaker 1: Like Yo, he's dope in the movie too, He's like
Speaker 1: spot on Norman Lloyd. This dude has been around since,
Speaker 1: like Charlie Chaplin and Amy Schuman. She wrote it, Amy
Speaker 1: wrote it, and it comes from a real place, and
Speaker 1: they say that the best comedy comes from the darkest places.
Speaker 1: So what is trainwreck about? Basically? You know what your
Speaker 1: females do? What you wait, huh, what you females do?
Speaker 1: What we do? Train wrecks? Man, you see it on
Speaker 1: reality TV all the time. You guys are in that case.
Speaker 1: Y'all are training Rex as well. So you are not
Speaker 1: all females, but a lot of females and a lot
Speaker 1: of guys too. Yeah, you're right, you're right, yea. They're
Speaker 1: trying to save you from them taking a headline, taking
Speaker 1: somebody contact. Got to be real careful with my words now, man,
Speaker 1: you offend anybody and everybody. Man. Yes, Judd Apatol joint
Speaker 1: um Well, Judd directed it, and he's what can I
Speaker 1: say that? Man, it's like a genius. He could take
Speaker 1: a comedic moment, turn it real serious and then turn
Speaker 1: it back to comedy without missing a beat, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then the transitions are good, like
Speaker 1: I mean, for example, with this is forty, when Leslie
Speaker 1: Man's characters talking to Paul Rudd, they're in the bed
Speaker 1: and it's like the serious conversation going on, and she's
Speaker 1: like letting them know, like I'm at this age now
Speaker 1: when I'm having these feelings and you know, and it's
Speaker 1: very serious between the two of them, and then you
Speaker 1: know it's silence and then he just foughts, that's real
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, yeah, that's I remember Dutch ovens uch Oven. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now this wasn't the first one you tried out forward Jodavatar.
Speaker 1: Nah I tried out for Funny People with him and
Speaker 1: Richard got that part. Did that piss you off a
Speaker 1: little bit? Nah? I was happy for Risarm. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: at least one of us got it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then, um, did y'all tell each other like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going out for to do this try for the No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we had different agencies and agents at that time. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, he had an agent. I didn't. I was
Speaker 1: just walking in on the auditions like, let me get that.
Speaker 1: But um, I just told myself. I promised myself that
Speaker 1: if I ever got the opportunity to work with jud again,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a grip holding the boomstick whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step up and do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that if you reached out to him
Speaker 1: and know him personally, He would love to work would
Speaker 1: have loved to work with you anyway. Well, he did
Speaker 1: say that he wants to His goal is to put
Speaker 1: a Wool Tang member each Woo Tang member and at
Speaker 1: least one of his freaking movies. So wow, did you
Speaker 1: and Rizz ever talk about that when you're always coming
Speaker 1: up like, yeah, we're gonna get into Hollywood and do
Speaker 1: the acting thing, nah Me or Rizzle? Really, well, you
Speaker 1: don't talk to Z talks to you even at this
Speaker 1: stage in the game. Rizz is like he's what can
Speaker 1: I say? Like, he's he's an intriguing person like he
Speaker 1: when he speaks a lot of people listen because he
Speaker 1: makes sense. And uh, I don't know, I can't even
Speaker 1: put a finger on it. He just has that magnetic
Speaker 1: thing that attracts people. Soon. But that doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: always agree, No, that doesn't mean we always agree. But
Speaker 1: I mean he brought nine individuals together for one common
Speaker 1: cause and it worked for a long time, still working. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did it get difficult moving as the unit with Wu
Speaker 1: Tang as y'all got old then more successful, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it was difficult from day one because Richard
Speaker 1: had a lot of When we went out on the
Speaker 1: first tour, Richard still had a lot of obligations to
Speaker 1: finish up solo albums and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: Dirty made the show was that Dirty wanted to make.
Speaker 1: And I mean people got used to it after a while,
Speaker 1: but I mean it gets to a point where, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, they said Batman, I think it
Speaker 1: was he said, you lived long enough to see yourself
Speaker 1: become the villain. Yeah, that happens. We've been in the
Speaker 1: game a long time, so you know it's going to
Speaker 1: be flaws and mishaps and mistakes and things said. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just grateful that we've been doing it
Speaker 1: this long. I remember early on it used to be
Speaker 1: difficult because it is nine people trying to make flights,
Speaker 1: nine people trying to get places on time, and one
Speaker 1: person would come, whoever was first would say, oh, nobody
Speaker 1: else is here, and then they would leave and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's but that's only that's a lobby call. That's what
Speaker 1: anybody you know, if you're the first down for lobby
Speaker 1: cole when it's time to go to the show, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody else down there. All right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back up for him minute when everybody else downstairs, because
Speaker 1: you don't want to be the first man because you
Speaker 1: never know, Like the notoriously late dudes is killer ye
Speaker 1: coming downstairs late ghosts. But Ghost has his reasons right medically,
Speaker 1: Yeah like that, and uh, that's it really. The rest
Speaker 1: of the dudes are pretty young. Point. We got to
Speaker 1: find Jissers sometimes right, but he'd be right there soon
Speaker 1: the showtime show up out of nowhere, boom right there,
Speaker 1: and sometimes Dirty would just pop up out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and Dirty be in the crowd watching the show, chilling
Speaker 1: it first, and then they had come up and do
Speaker 1: the sh There was any pressure because you were the
Speaker 1: first artist to go solo from the war, well at
Speaker 1: first year? At first was there any pressure first because
Speaker 1: everything was riding on how successful your project was. Ignorance
Speaker 1: is bliss. I didn't see it at that level, but
Speaker 1: it was more or less like going out on the
Speaker 1: road by myself because I hadn't done that. I was
Speaker 1: always out with the crew, so that was like my
Speaker 1: little shield and stuff. So it got to a point
Speaker 1: where I was like, well, I'm just gonna bring a
Speaker 1: couple of block dudes with me, and I'm familiar with
Speaker 1: so I can be comfortable. And most of my shows
Speaker 1: was with Big, so you know, I was very comfortable.
Speaker 1: Right after like two or three shows, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh I got this and only had three, so we'll
Speaker 1: bring the pain or to bring the pain method man
Speaker 1: method man, And it was one more. No, not that
Speaker 1: because over the songs that we did. After I did
Speaker 1: my three songs and then we would do Wu Tang
Speaker 1: songs and then I would bring people on stage the
Speaker 1: free Stun and it would get crowded and I would disappear.
Speaker 1: You know, if the truth that they wanted your album
Speaker 1: to come out even before the Wu Tang project, No, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even a thought. We all started that goal
Speaker 1: like monopoly. You know, whoever gets boardwalk, whoever gets there first.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was, man. We all start at
Speaker 1: the same point, and just some dudes prospered or seeing
Speaker 1: the the bigger picture a little bit faster than others,
Speaker 1: or maybe the opportunity knocked for this person before knocked
Speaker 1: for that one. But I mean, as far as my crew,
Speaker 1: all of us is dope. Man. I heard once that
Speaker 1: really charged you. One hundred dollars to get on protect
Speaker 1: your next. No, it was no, no, it was you
Speaker 1: know it was real though. You know it was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: bring one hundred dollars to the studio. You know, we
Speaker 1: gotta pay for the studio time and we're talking about
Speaker 1: nine people. Well it was eight eight then you know
Speaker 1: that's eight hundred dollars that paid for a studio session.
Speaker 1: And everybody Ron was ready, I mean were doing that
Speaker 1: for free anyway in his house, seven peroi was good.
Speaker 1: And you're the youngest one right out of everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they ain't a lot a lot. That's like she bar
Speaker 1: Ain't that low real? Now, you was one of the
Speaker 1: few mcs. You might be the only MC to actually
Speaker 1: record with Biggiempop while he was alive. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not with Pop though Pop came home out of jail.
Speaker 1: He was in jail when we recorded that song that
Speaker 1: was for the Dog Pound album and uh Rage and
Speaker 1: Deck was on it. So when Pop came home, like
Speaker 1: a family supposed to do, they gave him everything they
Speaker 1: had so he can put some material out. Quit California
Speaker 1: Love was a song they gave it to Pop. That
Speaker 1: song that I'm on I got made up, they gave
Speaker 1: it to pop, and I was, you know, salute by
Speaker 1: all means, because I was still a fan of pop
Speaker 1: regardless of what was going on with him and Big
Speaker 1: and stuff and me and Big was cool, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I don't judge anybody by what
Speaker 1: beast they had because I wasn't there, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So however they went, however it went down,
Speaker 1: or however you know pop perceived big and Big perceived pop,
Speaker 1: that wasn't none of my business right there. I had
Speaker 1: love for Big and I had love for pop. So
Speaker 1: that why Rebel Lion? That's it, says Rebel Lion. That's
Speaker 1: at the end of that track. Yeah. I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: it out out for a year. I'm like, did he
Speaker 1: produce it? What happened? He was on it? He was,
Speaker 1: he said a four verse, but I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: You gotta ask Dass Dylan Jo about that one. Oh Dad,
Speaker 1: I gotta hear that, Dass. Yeah, whatever, how did music
Speaker 1: slow down for you? Because at one time you was
Speaker 1: on everything, every movie, every video, every song, and then
Speaker 1: it just slowed down? Was it? The label was? What
Speaker 1: wasn't it was the process. It was like I was
Speaker 1: doing too much. And I tell a lot of artists,
Speaker 1: I mean, last person I told that too was too change, like, y'all,
Speaker 1: keep some of that for yourself, stop giving you away,
Speaker 1: keep some of that for yourself. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if he listened, because he's still on everybody, you know.
Speaker 1: But it gets to a point where people get no,
Speaker 1: I won't say tired, but it's like, damn, it's like
Speaker 1: it's too much, you know, and then you gotta take
Speaker 1: a step back in. And what I didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to do was step back and home my craft.
Speaker 1: It was just like I was jotting most of those
Speaker 1: years because it was always a new project coming up
Speaker 1: once I finished one project, and then you got dates
Speaker 1: you gotta make and and things of that nature. So
Speaker 1: I mean I was really like Sleep Albums one through three.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, at one point, I mean, at one point
Speaker 1: of you, it seemed like you were the hottest artist
Speaker 1: in the game. This lyrically, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would call that sleep. No. I mean no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And I mean like it wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't to the caliber that I knew that I
Speaker 1: could get to even my first album, most of the
Speaker 1: material got washed out the flood and Rizzar's basement if
Speaker 1: y'all remember that history right there. So I had to
Speaker 1: record while Wu Tang was on the road, and this
Speaker 1: was our first tour, so we're getting booed every f
Speaker 1: and night, So that emotion was coming out in those records.
Speaker 1: I guess the people felt that second album. I didn't
Speaker 1: even really have Rizzard in the studio with me for
Speaker 1: the second album. It was it was yeah, yeah, no
Speaker 1: Judgment Day, and it was mostly True Master, you know
Speaker 1: Fourth Disciple. I even produced one of the joints on
Speaker 1: the air. And now you still to this day work
Speaker 1: with True Master and Fourth Disciple. No a True Mass
Speaker 1: I'm not no no Fourth Disciple. Yeah, four Fourth, it
Speaker 1: is my man, but True Masses. Um he had camp.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you got locked up. Yeah he said it.
Speaker 1: I mean I forgot about that in Bootcare Kendrick. Kendrick
Speaker 1: created a lot of hommedy to do you on SNL
Speaker 1: with the I guess that the anniversary of Judgment Day,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go real, I'm gonna change my whole in acular.
Speaker 1: I liked it that you did I liked it. No,
Speaker 1: but I met Kendrick before. He's a cool little dude.
Speaker 1: He's um focused smart. I like that. I like that
Speaker 1: a lot. It's like Public Enemy was to us, but
Speaker 1: a little more less than what Public. I mean, nobody
Speaker 1: can do what Chuck did. I mean, Chuck taught me
Speaker 1: who Marcus Garvey was. Even Malcolm Max. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because up to that point, the schools I
Speaker 1: was in didn't teach us about Malcolm Max. But um, Kendrick,
Speaker 1: he definitely got his thumb on the pulse of a
Speaker 1: black culture. Now. You were also one of the last
Speaker 1: artists to join social media. I remember when you joined Twitter.
Speaker 1: What made you decide to do that? Because you didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do because somebody was on there trying
Speaker 1: to get Coach under my name, so we took it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you got dumb ladies,
Speaker 1: I mean, let me stop. No, ladies, No, it's just
Speaker 1: the line of question and it's going in that direction.
Speaker 1: That's that's all it is. Um. Yeah, I mean some
Speaker 1: dude was on the impersonating the kid try and get Coach,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any women really fell for that.
Speaker 1: There we go there, we go. We're smarter than that. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And we were talking about you know you you were
Speaker 1: holding your music, you were doing so much stuff and
Speaker 1: then when did you stop because we just missed you
Speaker 1: for a period of time. I didn't stop, you know
Speaker 1: what it was? My mics was off the radar, guest
Speaker 1: because because I mean, you think about it. After the
Speaker 1: second album came the Blackout album, another Wu Tang album,
Speaker 1: then my next you know what it was, It was
Speaker 1: so much time in between time. I'm on that doctor
Speaker 1: Drake and he adopted Dred to be putting four and
Speaker 1: five years and now how many years has it been? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a long time, a long time, and you can't
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I remember Leo Cohen told me
Speaker 1: that he was like, um, I love Onix, but you
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with ONIXT They take too long to
Speaker 1: make albums. And I didn't believe him at that point
Speaker 1: because Onyx was on fire. It took him like four
Speaker 1: years to make that next album, which I thought was
Speaker 1: a dope album. But people weren't like that. That's a
Speaker 1: whole presidential term. You're going from mate graduated high school.
Speaker 1: We don't think about it. Like that because the time
Speaker 1: is constantly moving. I mean you're on the road, you're
Speaker 1: making appearances, you're doing all that crazy doing movies, TV shows, man,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't slow down. And I mean it's all
Speaker 1: fun even when you're not working. You're going an All
Speaker 1: Star weekend, you're going to super Bowls like that. Kevin
Speaker 1: Lyles spoiled me and Red Man shout out to Kevin Lyles,
Speaker 1: And I mean, it doesn't slow down. That's why everything
Speaker 1: was a blur. That's that's what I meant by like,
Speaker 1: I would sleep through most of those albums that I
Speaker 1: was making, with the exception of the first one and
Speaker 1: the last one, Real Tool, Did you enjoy any of
Speaker 1: the moments though? Yeah, all of them. I wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 1: And that's why I can't knock these new artists down
Speaker 1: for what they're doing because we have fun. They having
Speaker 1: fun right now. Y'all have fun, man, that what everybody say.
Speaker 1: Y'all wear yours as tight as y'all fun a little
Speaker 1: for real bad. It's a whole world out there for
Speaker 1: y'all to explore. Man, and you and Red Man made
Speaker 1: a lot of money together with the movies and sitcoms.
Speaker 1: Was there ever a point with other members of Wu
Speaker 1: Tang would probably would get jealous of how y'all were
Speaker 1: moving together. It was never any jealousy and stuff like
Speaker 1: that because one off for one and one for all.
Speaker 1: There was a win for the team and everybody was
Speaker 1: free to do what they want to do as well.
Speaker 1: Now like you couldn't go out. I wasn't jealous about
Speaker 1: the team at all. Bad. It was like we was
Speaker 1: all rooting for each other, the same way we still
Speaker 1: root for Rison now with his directing stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: even Ghost Ghost was in the Iron Man movie. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't make the cut, but Ghost
Speaker 1: is good. So nobody ever got jealous. Knocked the turntables off?
Speaker 1: Are you were about to perform? Or that's Dirty acting craziest?
Speaker 1: You know what that was? Gotta tell that story because
Speaker 1: that's a funny stary because Dirty tried to take the
Speaker 1: mic from somebody earlier that night and they wasn't having it.
Speaker 1: Because this was like the fourth or fifth time Dirty
Speaker 1: had did that. He was notorious, but jumping on stage
Speaker 1: is taking the mics and rocking and show whatever. He
Speaker 1: didn't getting no love this time. People people booed his
Speaker 1: ass and all that he was a little mad at
Speaker 1: He wasn't necessarily mad at me. We was just the
Speaker 1: next act that happened to come on, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it was probably even though I
Speaker 1: was on stage, his ass was so drunk ish and
Speaker 1: just knocked the turntables down. Yeah, turntables over. But thanks Angie.
Speaker 1: I see. He was always an arguments with members of
Speaker 1: the crew. I remember the show. Everybody remembers the show. Yo.
Speaker 1: That's that's healthy. That's healthy healthy. That's why if anybody
Speaker 1: ever try and balk on me, I'm quitting the bark
Speaker 1: on them back. I know how to argue, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Remember when I first met meth walking argue.
Speaker 1: I thought he was so mean, but it really is
Speaker 1: just his He's just an argumentative person. He don't mean
Speaker 1: nothing by it. But when I first started record there,
Speaker 1: I was like, why is he so mean? But that's
Speaker 1: just how meth acts. He's not really. You gotta be
Speaker 1: on your guard all the time around people, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're a public figure, so to speak, because you
Speaker 1: know it's a lot. I mean, if the Internet is
Speaker 1: any indication of what it was back then, then you
Speaker 1: know what you know what the troll is right now,
Speaker 1: imagine those more being in the audience or standing outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your crib and like that, stealing your mail and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. Crank calling your crib. You know it's
Speaker 1: it's but how do you deal with it? Because you're
Speaker 1: the type that you will come up to somebody's crib,
Speaker 1: come to somebody's job. You've done it before. Never tell
Speaker 1: you that time meth Man. I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: get beat up by meth Man. Yeah. The story people
Speaker 1: out there listening it was. It was a situation. I
Speaker 1: used to work with Wendy Williams, and I guess Wendy
Speaker 1: had said something about Yeah, I wasn't that joking about it. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't funny man. I heard laughter. I don't know
Speaker 1: who it was in't there. But you know what, you
Speaker 1: could make good on that because she's sitting right Yeah,
Speaker 1: his wife is right here now to make good. Well,
Speaker 1: that was the whole that was before my time when
Speaker 1: when Wendy made those comments, came out and spoke to
Speaker 1: me though, Yeah I did because I because because I
Speaker 1: made him because I called when they's husband like yo,
Speaker 1: meth Man in the lobby and he was like, we'll
Speaker 1: go talk to him. I'm like, go talk to him.
Speaker 1: So I go out there all at him and Memphis
Speaker 1: like because I made comments about your lyrics, I said,
Speaker 1: you you weren't as how did you used to be? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, And and memmis came from the time. I
Speaker 1: guess Wendy exposed that his wife had cancer at the time,
Speaker 1: and that's what it was. Yeah, And so you know,
Speaker 1: you wonder how I remember when I walked down that lobby,
Speaker 1: Methals out there with two of the craziest looking mother
Speaker 1: we're seeing in my life. It was a driver and
Speaker 1: my cousin is crazy, you know what I mean crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them dudes that you know. Yo,
Speaker 1: I want you to sit downstairs in the car wait
Speaker 1: for these to come out and get them. Nah, it's
Speaker 1: if you're gonna see me, You're gonna see me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying face to face, and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as the argument stuff and stuff like,
Speaker 1: that's what my brothers. I don't argue with people in
Speaker 1: the street. That's not happening straight up and down. If
Speaker 1: I see you, it's just gonna be me and you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a grown discussion or the Ellis fight. Ever,
Speaker 1: that's it. It ain't no in betweens with that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As far as as far as
Speaker 1: old girl, I wish her the best. She's very successful,
Speaker 1: she's blessed God, blessed. Do your thing. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about that, because you know, meThe man
Speaker 1: is the reason why we have the tape interviews. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, I was doing another show and
Speaker 1: I guess we said something about Meth and Meth was
Speaker 1: quick to call and me would call and he's expressed
Speaker 1: his feelings. Remember you know what it was, no, no,
Speaker 1: no for re remembers, always calm, just like this. Those
Speaker 1: are people I'll be like, oh lord, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the fact. Okay. This was when my Space was
Speaker 1: out and I was hearing a lot of stuff coming
Speaker 1: from the radio station. So I told my fans, you know, well,
Speaker 1: they got their people calling up, and they're they're probably
Speaker 1: screening calls. You know, if you're saying something nice about me,
Speaker 1: you're not getting through. You say something meffed up, they
Speaker 1: put you on. So I had the MySpace people. I
Speaker 1: gave the number out to the station, blew it up,
Speaker 1: blue faxes and phone calls and the website. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was cool. I don't know if that's the situation you're
Speaker 1: talking about now. You call, you called, and you balked,
Speaker 1: you cursed a couple of times. It was about two
Speaker 1: hundred fifty. What they'll say, I don't remember. Of course,
Speaker 1: this is before dump Muttons and none of that. Damn
Speaker 1: you really you really think I fell off lyrically. I
Speaker 1: looked down as look, man, I'm gonna get beat up.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to be one that's not said beat
Speaker 1: nobody real. It's like, even with the with the Joe
Speaker 1: Buttons thing, people thought that I was mad because he
Speaker 1: said he better than me. No, he's supposed to say that,
Speaker 1: that's what him season supposed to. I'm better than everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My only problem with with
Speaker 1: with Joe Button was everything he said after that, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to imply had ghost riders and all the other
Speaker 1: that was just getting spulled. We we were good now.
Speaker 1: But it was like, I gotta address like that because
Speaker 1: it's not true. You know what I mean? Right is right?
Speaker 1: Wrong is wrong? And I don't with nobody. I's my
Speaker 1: business asked about me. I just quoted Shimmishima said, Matthew
Speaker 1: went from Simmy SHIMMYA to you, the one like Tracey
Speaker 1: McGrady and Messa, you know what. I respect that, but
Speaker 1: I was asking, how do you deal with everything going
Speaker 1: on now? Because now it's like you said, there's a
Speaker 1: troll so people can talk to you about you. And
Speaker 1: I was like when math Gon on Twitter because you
Speaker 1: actually tweeted me but you didn't really know what you
Speaker 1: was doing. Yeah, And I was like, math is not
Speaker 1: because he really gets like he wants to confront. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it was I did some Yeah,
Speaker 1: I DESI or Twitter, but Instagram, you know, I get
Speaker 1: into like these roaster sessions with people that try to
Speaker 1: say sideways because a lot of times just look at
Speaker 1: these people's profiles sometimes man, and you can tell what
Speaker 1: it is right, but it's not fair though, because they
Speaker 1: know all your history. You don't know these people that
Speaker 1: don't matter and snapping and snapping, you know, I say
Speaker 1: the most outlandish like you know, like you you got
Speaker 1: hobbit feeting, but you know it's like and then and
Speaker 1: then they get it, they get it and they start
Speaker 1: snapping back, and then at the end of the whole
Speaker 1: roaster session, it's like, I got a friend that affair
Speaker 1: right now. I remember a show you had called Stunk.
Speaker 1: It was you and Red Man on MTV. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the show aired once. It was funny as hell. Then
Speaker 1: I never saw it again. But then Punk came. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what the hell happened with that? That was MTV's idea,
Speaker 1: and they used me and Red Man to jump started.
Speaker 1: Now we're not to jump start it, but it was
Speaker 1: like an experiment and we were doing how High at
Speaker 1: the time, and it was some free promotion for us,
Speaker 1: So it was just the one episode thing. It wasn't
Speaker 1: never supposed to really go on and on and on.
Speaker 1: So they never came to y'all like, hey, we got
Speaker 1: to We're gonna do a punk show. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because when I saw it, Pump, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's a red show Ashton. Ashton got that off. Had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with us people trying to say MTV
Speaker 1: stole Red and Math show. No, they didn't. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: what it bothered you the most about hip hop in
Speaker 1: like the past fifteen years. Nothing? Nothing, Oh hip hop?
Speaker 1: You love it? I mean the art form. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course it's tainted, and you know, certain things could be changed,
Speaker 1: and but the overall culture, I mean, we're in a
Speaker 1: good position, especially if you can get in. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for that next great one. K Drake
Speaker 1: was one of them, and I'm just looking for that
Speaker 1: next great one that can be grounded enough to tell
Speaker 1: the truth. And you have a lot of artists in
Speaker 1: stann Island that you're putting on right now that we're
Speaker 1: not exactly putting on. I'm gonna start with my nephews.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be my first. Uh, your nephew spit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's their names? Easy Cardi and Freaky Freaky Easy and Cardi.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, those money right there, shout out too easy.
Speaker 1: He was in a car record, you know, in a
Speaker 1: coma for a minute. But he's recovering right now. I
Speaker 1: always wonder how close you and Big were, because you
Speaker 1: said Big took you out on the road. Of course
Speaker 1: y'all did. After well, Yeah, he would call me, he
Speaker 1: would call me, you know, he flew I remember one
Speaker 1: time he flew me out to North Carolina. I loved
Speaker 1: this story. Here talk to the kat and four people
Speaker 1: got shot that night, not saying Big that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a situation where flew me and
Speaker 1: my g carton Fish shout out callo. We went down
Speaker 1: to North Carolina, and you know, Big was like him
Speaker 1: to do the show with me. We get to the
Speaker 1: spot up in the spot, so Big up there performing.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to do the song yet. Some
Speaker 1: screaming and the crowd hating mans saying whatever whatever. I
Speaker 1: hear Big responding on the mic, so I guess he's
Speaker 1: saying he want to battle, because Bigg is like, what
Speaker 1: how much? You got some money to put up? You
Speaker 1: got some money to put up? And then he says
Speaker 1: something like, um, all right, if I win, you gotta
Speaker 1: strip butt neck it. So the nick I go to
Speaker 1: see what's going on, and when I get to the stage,
Speaker 1: I see b I he got his hand behind his
Speaker 1: back like this. Now I'm standing behind him, so I
Speaker 1: see what's in his hand, but he's just holding it
Speaker 1: and he talking to on the mic with the other hand,
Speaker 1: and dude is still like no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: He went to get up on that stage. Big. One
Speaker 1: of Big people snatched that from behind Big and just
Speaker 1: went the pummel in his assoop Bob chaos, didn't you
Speaker 1: hear Bob? Hey, Buddy Big was in the back with me,
Speaker 1: so I know, you know, but like four people got
Speaker 1: murdered that night. Man damn yeah, man shot. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they was murdered, but four people got shot
Speaker 1: that more good night. Why didnt y'all record my music together? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean other than him passing. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: at the time, I don't know. I never got the call.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I never got the call.
Speaker 1: I would have did it off top. There was one
Speaker 1: joint that we did, but it was posthumous, you know. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: was it difficult because you know, Ghost and Ray had
Speaker 1: to shock by it. But you know what that was,
Speaker 1: that was a little I ain't gonna even say that
Speaker 1: was a little envy. I ain't gonna even lie. That
Speaker 1: was a little envy right there. And who knows. I
Speaker 1: guess they just love nods that much. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just the time. But not for nothing. Um,
Speaker 1: when I did that joint, the biggie, what is it,
Speaker 1: the one that came by? Okay, the body joint right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a hunted. They gave it twenty
Speaker 1: five grand for that was it twenty but I didn't
Speaker 1: take the money, gave it to C. J. Big Son. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't feel right right, you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: that you spoke got about about that album. You like,
Speaker 1: you didn't like the direction of it. I just felt
Speaker 1: like a lot of those people big with another dis
Speaker 1: songs with his people agree. M You've always been a
Speaker 1: very loyal person, though when it came to being in
Speaker 1: the group other people that you've dealt with outside of that,
Speaker 1: you said, it such sucks because there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of loyalty in this business. Nah, That's why I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep your circle tight, and you got I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard. You can't trust anybody, really, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: your guard up, you know what I'm saying for me,
Speaker 1: I guess the way me and red Man have I
Speaker 1: don't know the way we're portrayed, I guess or the
Speaker 1: way we we we had amongst people and like we're
Speaker 1: like knowing from cheers, everybody just loves us. I'll be
Speaker 1: in random spots and people will be showing the kid
Speaker 1: love it where it's like you know where you at,
Speaker 1: you know, places like that. I mean, I get it
Speaker 1: because you know when you when you they just feel
Speaker 1: like we're non threatening. Were not those type of dudes
Speaker 1: that's coming to take anything from them. They when they
Speaker 1: see people like us, they think party or we're gonna
Speaker 1: get high, go party like that, you know, So that
Speaker 1: little laid back or I guess it's the same. Not
Speaker 1: comparing ourselves to Cheaching Chong, but it's that same vibe
Speaker 1: that Cheach and Chong give people. I mean, black people
Speaker 1: love Cheaching Chong. White people agent who ever seen their movies,
Speaker 1: they love them. With the weed culture, yes, ma'am, but
Speaker 1: train record will be in there. This Amy Shooman murdered
Speaker 1: that train records are greater weed too, So that was
Speaker 1: a great you ever had a bad trip on When
Speaker 1: I was younger, some of you employed the program m.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a sum of youth y'all, because I
Speaker 1: never could find my Social Security card. I thought you
Speaker 1: working in the Statue Liberty, Yeah, you didn't need one.
Speaker 1: They paid in cash. So what happened? Okay, So they
Speaker 1: woke me up in the morning. I lived on the
Speaker 1: first floor, so they knocked on the window. I was
Speaker 1: living on the first flour fifty five bow Apartment one
Speaker 1: two three. Knocked on the window. I ain't even washed nothing,
Speaker 1: closed on, jumped out the window. We on the ferry.
Speaker 1: Dudes is smoking on the ferry, were smoking joint after join,
Speaker 1: after join, mind you, I didn't eat anything. We get
Speaker 1: to Canal Street, one of the hottest days of the summer.
Speaker 1: I didn't eat anything. I'm highest, I'm like thirteen years
Speaker 1: old walking and next thing you know, I just blacked
Speaker 1: out and passed the out both damn woke up. Dudes
Speaker 1: was carrying me a little. They picked me up, woke
Speaker 1: me up and went and got me something to eat.
Speaker 1: And I was good after that. And that was the
Speaker 1: worst trip. And then I ate a weed browdy one time.
Speaker 1: Oh that You never know how powerful that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what it was. I did the dumbie
Speaker 1: because I was hungry, and I ate the whole thing, right,
Speaker 1: So I say, about fifteen minutes to a half hour later, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was going down. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to throw up. Home was spinning. I tried to sleep
Speaker 1: the dof I went to sleep. I don't know for
Speaker 1: how long I woke up still spinning. It was it
Speaker 1: was a up trip, and I'm thinking to myself, like
Speaker 1: I might die in this smoke, but I'm not calling
Speaker 1: the hospital because I can imagine what that the headlines
Speaker 1: I met the bad old D's on Brown, I will
Speaker 1: die and I will die in this night before I
Speaker 1: let the La Times get a story like that. You
Speaker 1: wanted the upper echelon weed smoker, you Willie Nelson Snoop Dog.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't die from the weed over night. But you know,
Speaker 1: I put it in the background now more than anything
Speaker 1: else because honestly, yeah, I do smoke. I still smoke.
Speaker 1: I probably smoke for the rest of my life. But
Speaker 1: I don't smoke as much as people perceived me too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Back then, Yes I did.
Speaker 1: Then you have to teach kids about the dangers of weed.
Speaker 1: At one point, back in the day, I didn't actually know.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, No, I didn't. It was I got
Speaker 1: a DUI and part of my community service was to
Speaker 1: go to high schools and uh but it was me
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other people and talk about my story,
Speaker 1: tell my story of how I got caught, and the
Speaker 1: it was of driving under the influence, you know, all
Speaker 1: but the people that I was sitting there with that
Speaker 1: actually killed people, you know, like one dude, he I mean,
Speaker 1: his community service was already up, but he was still coming.
Speaker 1: A doctor Indian guy, I remember, because he had killed
Speaker 1: somebody or the motorcycle because he was texting on his phone,
Speaker 1: you know. And another lady was drunk and out of
Speaker 1: all the cars she could have hit, she hit a
Speaker 1: DA's car. Yeah. Yeah, a few other people. They killed people.
Speaker 1: And so by the time it got to my story,
Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't really got nothing good to say.
Speaker 1: I got pulled over with some weed in the car,
Speaker 1: you know. That was it? Now, the last the last
Speaker 1: two ten album, the one that was the private one
Speaker 1: that they were selling for so much money, but when
Speaker 1: they were auctioning, that wasn't the probably one. It was
Speaker 1: um A Better than Marrow, right, No, that was the
Speaker 1: one that was free on the part of Time A
Speaker 1: Better Tomorrow came out that these albums coming out. Are
Speaker 1: you guys, are you a part of it? Or is
Speaker 1: it one of those thing where they taking versus No.
Speaker 1: I was there. I was the first one to go
Speaker 1: in because I had touring obligations to do. So I
Speaker 1: went in first and um, not gonna lie. I told
Speaker 1: Riss off Top. I was like, look, um, what what
Speaker 1: kind of feel are you going for us? I want
Speaker 1: to give him a light feelings like okay, I get that,
Speaker 1: but how much light are we giving them right now?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, as far as core fans go, they
Speaker 1: want that first album that gouttish if anything was try
Speaker 1: and do everything off their MP like that. But he
Speaker 1: was focused on what his vision was. And um, he's
Speaker 1: been right before in the past as far as I go,
Speaker 1: because I would have never put all our need out
Speaker 1: that was some personal right, but it was his idea
Speaker 1: and the label and it worked for me, So I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at it. God blessed Mary feel putting our
Speaker 1: stamp on it. Then as time went on, we you know,
Speaker 1: dude spoke to him about certain things that was going
Speaker 1: on and and you know, we're not feeling this beat
Speaker 1: or we're not feeling this beat. And there was a
Speaker 1: time when we went overseas where we were doing joints
Speaker 1: that guys were feeling the beats and all that stuff
Speaker 1: right there. And when he got it back to New
Speaker 1: York or wherever he took it to, it just changed changed.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest. I didn't like the Dune
Speaker 1: product at all. You know, I didn't like the process
Speaker 1: at all of making it. So I was pretty much
Speaker 1: out of the loop before it was even completed. You know,
Speaker 1: why didn't you like all I need? He said, it
Speaker 1: wasn't his idea to put it out. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been on the album if I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Of course, I love that song. That song,
Speaker 1: it's done a lot. That's song meant something to me,
Speaker 1: and that video just putting it out out as a
Speaker 1: as a song, you know, I think what they're there,
Speaker 1: what they were going forward, something different than what I
Speaker 1: was going for. I wrote it pure thought, pure mind.
Speaker 1: This is for my woman and that's it, a personal
Speaker 1: letter to her. And what they were going for was, okay,
Speaker 1: let's ride this way. Women like him, so let's throw
Speaker 1: this song out there and get it popping. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at their core artists that went through that. DMX
Speaker 1: had what these bitches want from it? Right? Or no? No? No?
Speaker 1: Was um I was going down? How's it going down? There?
Speaker 1: You go? Jab Rule? I mean, his catalog is what
Speaker 1: it is and stuff. You know, it's it's a pattern
Speaker 1: up there and it's it's a good pattern, especially if
Speaker 1: it works. But when it doesn't work or it fails,
Speaker 1: oh my god, who did the all I needed remix
Speaker 1: because you added some bars and to that one. Puffy okay, Betty,
Speaker 1: a lot of lawful puff. I don't get what nobody
Speaker 1: said about Puffy. Man. Puff is a trail, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He he, he kept it a hunt
Speaker 1: it with me every time I did wait a long
Speaker 1: time for my twenty five huntred for the what though?
Speaker 1: Wait that? And and um but Puff walked too with
Speaker 1: this woman we know, getting your real cold shoulder, kettle
Speaker 1: bells and everything. He din't touch that man, that man,
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. Let's be clear. None of us
Speaker 1: was in the room, so we don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: But no charges, No charges. Now you're talking about females.
Speaker 1: Was at one point where you purposely was trying to
Speaker 1: make yourself look ugly because you didn't want the sex
Speaker 1: symbol label. I think I did, I can't remember. Probably did,
Speaker 1: and like that. No, but honestly, that's that's watching rock
Speaker 1: and roll like eighties glam rock. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like you couldn't get away from that. I don't
Speaker 1: how hardcore you was with the hip hop because that
Speaker 1: you know that hair I was the kid that sat
Speaker 1: by the radio Friday Saturday to take mister Magic and
Speaker 1: bred A Lerton go back and forth through the radio station.
Speaker 1: When they first played I, um, um it's my thing EPMD.
Speaker 1: I caught it World World Premier Premier on tape. Hit
Speaker 1: that more my record. But when we watched TV, we
Speaker 1: had even on hot tracks they was playing. I mean
Speaker 1: we had Wham, we had Poison, we had Peter Gabriel
Speaker 1: sledge Hammer. Right. I don't know where that motherfucker came from,
Speaker 1: but it was like, this is these I used to us.
Speaker 1: I mean method Man came from references from Hall and
Speaker 1: notes method of monology. I don't want to get sued,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you remember your first time here and method
Speaker 1: Man on the radio. Yeah. But when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's that's that right there. One
Speaker 1: um Battle of the Beats, like they had to retire
Speaker 1: to it. It was the first time they retired a
Speaker 1: record or a Battle of the beats because everybody was
Speaker 1: picking that Method Man. It was Angie doing it. I
Speaker 1: think Angie was no, no, still it is what it is,
Speaker 1: you know, telling people about what train train rerecords about
Speaker 1: if they don't know train rerecords based about a said
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer rit wrote, Oh god, all right, I got it.
Speaker 1: Train Wrecord is a film about a a woman who
Speaker 1: cannot maintain a monogamous relationship because she believes monogamy is
Speaker 1: isn't real. She basically goes through life with the illusion
Speaker 1: that it's one night stand after one night stand after
Speaker 1: one night stand, and she believes her life is great
Speaker 1: until she's shone a different way when she falls in
Speaker 1: love with a doctor. Amy Schumer was a man in
Speaker 1: train Wreck. That's appreciate you for joining us. Shout out
Speaker 1: Muffin Schumer. Congratulations to you, sweetie. Observe breakfast Club is
Speaker 1: method man.