Speaker 1: Oh he's joining us now.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: He had a breakout performance in the Houston thirty to
Speaker 3: six win over the Steelers AFC Wildcard round, a career
Speaker 3: best nineteen carriage, one hundred and twelve yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Harry is the outstanding running back from the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3: Woody Marx what a How you doing?
Speaker 1: Bro? What's up? Woody? You muted?
Speaker 4: I'm doing good?
Speaker 1: What's up? Okay, We're good. That's okay, alright, So how
Speaker 1: you doing? Bro? You good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good. It's living.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that performance.
Speaker 3: You guys, you your best game of your career and
Speaker 3: you had it on one of the biggest stage stages
Speaker 3: the NFL, the wild card game.
Speaker 1: You're in Pittsburgh. You know they do a really good
Speaker 1: job against the run.
Speaker 3: Why were you guys able to have such success running
Speaker 3: the football that night?
Speaker 4: Everybody?
Speaker 2: Starting Wednesday, I knew, I knew it was gonna have
Speaker 2: a big game just Wednesday practice. When we first went
Speaker 2: out there, guys was linking up and just moving people
Speaker 2: off the ball. And then it came on to Thursday.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, it's carrying on. Then Friday
Speaker 2: is carrying on. Then we was like I was running
Speaker 2: back coach. He was like, Yeah, we're gonna have a
Speaker 2: good night running the ball. It just came to life
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: It seemed like you guys wore him down.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: They had a.
Speaker 3: Demika on the sideline he was talking about That's what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Wear him out, wear him down.
Speaker 3: And you guys seem because that last touchdown you broke
Speaker 3: like self made tap because they were just like, what.
Speaker 1: The hell with it? It's over. You broke you broke
Speaker 1: the will, you broke that spirit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure we was winning down.
Speaker 2: You kind of heard it them talking on the back end,
Speaker 2: saying like, man, we running We running straight.
Speaker 4: At your face. That's what Nick Chubb told us. We
Speaker 4: gotta do.
Speaker 2: So we coming straight at your face. They played bullyball.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play bullyball too.
Speaker 1: Hey Hey, what are you from the age? Hey? What's
Speaker 1: up Brown? Hey? Hey, Tam Tammy something.
Speaker 6: What's the biggest what's the biggest changes uh from the
Speaker 6: from the regular season to the postseason that you notice
Speaker 6: in in.
Speaker 2: The destruct it you gotta be locked in, no players off,
Speaker 2: every play matter.
Speaker 4: Points to kick off.
Speaker 2: How you were you putting the landmark at everything matters?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what? What? What high school you go to?
Speaker 3: It in?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Christian Kirk also had one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: four receiving yards. What I mean, you guys have your
Speaker 3: best day on the biggest stage when it's needed the most.
Speaker 1: I mean, could you?
Speaker 3: I mean because your offense struggled a little bit early
Speaker 3: on me, you had three turnovers, your defense kept didn't
Speaker 3: didn't be in and he didn't gett't concede anything.
Speaker 1: But you guys got it together.
Speaker 3: What was it about that week of practice that let
Speaker 3: you know that you guys had what it took to
Speaker 3: go on the road and get a very tough, hard
Speaker 3: pat victory.
Speaker 1: But you made it look convincent.
Speaker 4: Replay plays.
Speaker 2: I think we went it was our fastest on Fridays,
Speaker 2: not replay plays.
Speaker 4: Uh, so everybody was locked in, so I knew it
Speaker 4: was gonna have a great game.
Speaker 6: So yeah, hey, hey, what is like playing for DeMarco?
Speaker 6: Would he considering you know, him being a former player,
Speaker 6: and what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that? What's that?
Speaker 4: It's kind of it's this good to seeing him.
Speaker 2: He'd be over there on defense, I playing linebacker when.
Speaker 4: We on scout team, so he was he tried.
Speaker 2: He tried to break it, like you don't got no pass,
Speaker 2: so you better move out the way.
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you tell Demiko bro if I'd have
Speaker 3: been playing when you had been playing red. Yeah, look,
Speaker 3: you got a very tough opponent. You got the New
Speaker 3: England Patriots. And everybody knows what the Patriots represent. Even
Speaker 3: though Tom Brady is not there, Mike Brable played a
Speaker 3: number of.
Speaker 1: Years with them.
Speaker 3: He he brings that old school coaching kind of like
Speaker 3: you guys very physical in the run game, play outstanding defense,
Speaker 3: do not do not turn the ball over, don't do
Speaker 3: not let them have big plays. And and and the
Speaker 3: weather prediction UH is indicating that it might be snow. Now.
Speaker 3: You guys play indoors. You guys play ended, they play indoors.
Speaker 3: You play in Jacksonville. It's really nice and sunny and Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I don't know when you went to Tennessee. Sometimes Tennessee
Speaker 3: it does get cold in Nashville. But this is what
Speaker 3: you you one step away from being in the AFC
Speaker 3: Championship Game. What is your thought process? What is Demico
Speaker 3: today with your first deal of practice? If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: so no yesterday with your first deal practice. What was
Speaker 3: the what has been Demko's message.
Speaker 2: Which henna play Houston ball, little tough team, no matter
Speaker 2: the condition. When they place that ball down, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get the rocket, which is that's where we live. By offense, defense,
Speaker 2: facial team, we all get the rocket when they place
Speaker 2: the ball down. We played side, but we were football players.
Speaker 2: We don't play it in the rain before. We don't
Speaker 2: play it in the snow before. Probably not football, but
Speaker 2: we don't been outside in the snow just playing around
Speaker 2: as kids, so we know the feeling of it.
Speaker 4: When we get there, we'll be used to it.
Speaker 3: You played for Cliff Kingsbred UFC. Demico. What's the biggest
Speaker 3: difference between and Cliff?
Speaker 2: I was with Link Link most of the time. It's
Speaker 2: really not a difference. So Link kind of did the
Speaker 2: same thing be over there on scout team.
Speaker 3: But Lincoln, Lincoln he was.
Speaker 2: He was more of an offensive, offensive minded guy. Demiko
Speaker 2: he more of a defensive guy. So you kind of
Speaker 2: see the difference in between that. But both of them
Speaker 2: want to run the ball. Just hearing him say we
Speaker 2: want to run the ball. You gotta run the ball.
Speaker 2: That's that's what people been preaching to me. You got
Speaker 2: to run the ball in the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially under them condition and y'all might be under
Speaker 6: you know this this weekend and you're gonna have your love,
Speaker 6: your lunch pair ready, ready to go, have a big
Speaker 6: boy pants on?
Speaker 1: Let me who is Houston? Man? Wasn't like living in Houston?
Speaker 1: What I living?
Speaker 6: Come on, we're gonna come down there and hang out
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 4: Tell us about you've been in Atlanta before. It's about the.
Speaker 1: Same I live.
Speaker 6: I said that, man, I said, it's like a bigger
Speaker 6: It's a.
Speaker 4: Bigger Atlanta, about the same thing going. She got good food,
Speaker 4: uh m hmm.
Speaker 2: Everything what everything you got in Atlanta you got out here.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think they got a little
Speaker 1: bit more it used to live.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably got a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. Hey, you gotta spread out there,
Speaker 3: Come of me. Oh, Joe and Joe, we need to
Speaker 3: come out there.
Speaker 1: We need to talk place the place to lay ahead.
Speaker 4: We got y'all for sure.
Speaker 1: All what I'm talking about. That what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: that my homeboy for the crib.
Speaker 3: You know homeboys we go hey, we go out, you know,
Speaker 3: Grounded and Drake.
Speaker 1: That's all you know.
Speaker 3: We're gonna Uber everywhere we go. We don't need to
Speaker 3: have no ride with Uber. Yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 4: Black truck. Huh, black truck, black truck.
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, Okay, I'm all for that.
Speaker 4: Huh. It's on you though.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got I gotta, I got I gotta come
Speaker 1: that one. The hospitality, I got ya to.
Speaker 3: Damn, I got you the crib. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 3: that's good enough. That's all I beggas. Can't be choosing,
Speaker 3: you know what. You know what, would we appreciate that
Speaker 3: we were gonna we're gonna have well, we'll do that.
Speaker 1: Hey man, congratulations man, great work on Monday night. Man,
Speaker 1: carry it over you guys. Look good. Tell the Miko,
Speaker 1: I said, what something? Man, wish you the best of
Speaker 1: look good luck, bro Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Woody March, out standing young running back for the Houston Texas,
Speaker 3: had a breakout game nineteen carries, one hundred and twelve yards,
Speaker 3: one touchdown. He ran extremely hard all night long, and
Speaker 3: at the end it was that running, physical style that
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans offensive line and running backs played with
Speaker 3: that finally wore down and the levee burst and when
Speaker 3: he rocked that long. That touchdown run you could see
Speaker 3: that was the Pittsburgh Steelers. You saw something you hadn't
Speaker 3: seen from a Steelers defense in a very long time.
Speaker 3: They hung their heads because they know they had thoroughly
Speaker 3: gotten their ass kicked that night. So listen, glad that
Speaker 3: their run game and that defense, Oh that's what kept
Speaker 3: a minute.
Speaker 1: Y'all ran so hard. Hey, what are we gonna get
Speaker 1: you out of this? Though? But y'all you ran so hard. Man.
Speaker 3: Mike Thomas stepped down the next day. He said, Man,
Speaker 3: I don't want no more? Is that?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: You said that young man come in there and the
Speaker 3: other dude did that. The defense beat us like that produces.
Speaker 3: But appreciate that with him, man and joy and enjoyed
Speaker 3: this time. Man, Hey, you got something special. Go and
Speaker 3: keep it going, bro, Appreciate that, Sir. Joe Jonathan Kaminga
Speaker 3: has reportedly demanded a trade ahead of the February fifth
Speaker 3: NBA trade deadline. According to Shams and Anthony Slater, Kaminga
Speaker 3: first became eligible to be traded on Thursday after signing
Speaker 3: a contract extension during the off season. He immediately asked
Speaker 3: to be dealt excuse me, the Kings and the Maths
Speaker 3: have reportedly both shown interest in Kaminga, making them two
Speaker 3: of the most logical and likely landing spots for him.
Speaker 3: The Athletic also dropped the story that Kerr had Franz
Speaker 3: Wagner atop his wish list in the twenty twenty one draft,
Speaker 3: but team governor Joe lacam as a driving force behind
Speaker 3: the choice of Kaminga. Woh well, the clear one of
Speaker 3: burge between with Bogner and Kaminga in the league. Wagner
Speaker 3: is really good, really really good. Now that's not I'm
Speaker 3: not saying coming but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't understand this. I don't understand why they wanted
Speaker 3: to keep him. They wouldn't play him, they had him
Speaker 3: coming out the bench. He did a healthy DNP coaching decision.
Speaker 3: Coaching decision, Joe, what's going on? I mean you you
Speaker 3: played this game a number of years. You know the
Speaker 3: inner working and how the NBA is is really different
Speaker 3: than the NFL because NFL got a good player that
Speaker 3: more for a player. I don't give a damn how
Speaker 3: much money making he played. What's going on with Kaminga
Speaker 3: and Kurr, to the best of your explain when when
Speaker 3: when you have a guy who has pretty good value
Speaker 3: on to me, it don't make sense for him to
Speaker 3: sign him and bringing back. But then when you think
Speaker 3: about it, they brought him back for bait. They know
Speaker 3: a lot of teams would love to have his service,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like they would they. I feel
Speaker 3: like they.
Speaker 6: Knew they was gonna get to this point anyway. They
Speaker 6: knew they was gonna trade him. They knew they was
Speaker 6: gonna have to trade him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: He doesn't fit the system. He doesn't fit what they're
Speaker 6: trying to do. He don't fit their culture. And I
Speaker 6: feel like now they're gonna try to trade him, which
Speaker 6: is why they signed him and brought him back, And
Speaker 6: they knew they was gonna get to this point. Now
Speaker 6: they just trying to get them. They trying to get
Speaker 6: something of value for him.
Speaker 3: Well, they could have did a side and trade. They
Speaker 3: could have signed and been trading him at this offseason.
Speaker 3: Probably probably wasn't nothing out there. The market probably ain't
Speaker 3: been the great for him. If you just want me
Speaker 3: to be one hundred with you, the market probably hasn't
Speaker 3: been great for him, and they've tried to play him
Speaker 3: so he can create, you know more value for himself
Speaker 3: and I don't think that that has happened. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: now they just trying to They just trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, because I didn't understand. I mean, you
Speaker 3: sided to be bringing back. I was like, well, hell,
Speaker 3: he gonna be starting.
Speaker 1: And he starts.
Speaker 3: I think he started a couple of games then anyway,
Speaker 3: right back to the bench, playing the same number of
Speaker 3: btness and then he stopped. They stopped playing him. So
Speaker 3: the problem was he ain't raised enough. He ain't throwing
Speaker 3: enough chairs, he ain't kicking enough people in the ass.
Speaker 3: He ain't do he't raised them. He ain't raised enough. Hell,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, Joe, he ain't raised enough
Speaker 3: head Nope, nope.
Speaker 6: And look, look the honest the real thing is his
Speaker 6: game doesn't fit what the Warriors what they're trying to
Speaker 6: do because he's not like a catch and shoot guy.
Speaker 3: No, you know, he kind of likes to get down here.
Speaker 3: He's basically Jimmy Butler. There you go. He likes to
Speaker 3: get down here.
Speaker 6: But he has great size, great athleticism, and I could
Speaker 6: see the promising, you know, in in his game.
Speaker 1: So, like I said, man, it.
Speaker 6: Should be a few teams who are looking for a service,
Speaker 6: so they probably just trying to figure out the best
Speaker 6: deal at this point.
Speaker 1: But here's another thing.
Speaker 3: You knew his system, his style of play didn't fit
Speaker 3: the system. But see this is what owners always the intervening. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Steve Kurta won all these championships. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Franz Wagner in that system. The way he can shoot,
Speaker 3: he can put it on the floor, he could shoot
Speaker 3: the three, he can big body, he can post up,
Speaker 3: he can pass. Yes, yeah, I agree, but I don't
Speaker 3: think nobody knew Franz is gonna be this good neither.
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah. And the question is, and see it's easy
Speaker 3: to do that. Would he have been that with Steph Curry? Right,
Speaker 3: That's the thing. See, people like, well, look at what
Speaker 3: he's doing now, would have been that with Steph? He's
Speaker 3: getting all the shots. I mean, so I guess they
Speaker 3: said when the ball is gonna move, but he needs
Speaker 3: the ball, he's not KD. KD can be efficient with
Speaker 3: fifteen shots. He can get you twenty five on twelve shots.
Speaker 3: He can get you thirty on fifteen shots. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: two totally different players, and I think sometimes we get
Speaker 3: caught up well, we see what that guy doing over there,
Speaker 3: But Katy do that over here. When they play winning basketball,
Speaker 3: if you lose it a lot of teams. I believe
Speaker 3: it's easy to get buckets on the losing team, Joe,
Speaker 3: than it is on.
Speaker 1: A winning team. Oh.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, go you play on the winning team. They
Speaker 6: mean you playing with guys with high IQs who really
Speaker 6: know how to play the game, and they gonna make
Speaker 6: the game easier for you.
Speaker 1: You playing them losing teams.
Speaker 6: May you know, losing losing teams find a way to
Speaker 6: beat themselves.
Speaker 1: It's just what it is. And then you get just
Speaker 1: trying to get numbers.
Speaker 6: There you go, you're playing with guys who's just trying
Speaker 6: to get numbers because they trying to get another contract
Speaker 6: man correct. And that's how that's that's how the losing
Speaker 6: starts because you're exhausting all your options and then you
Speaker 6: want to pass this fireball to me with three seconds
Speaker 6: on the clock.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta go into my bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then with that man and then they looking
Speaker 3: at my average, my shooting percentage. Yeah, y'all ain't see that.
Speaker 3: There they passing me the ball at the end of
Speaker 3: the shot clock. And I had to get three of
Speaker 3: them fans off. You shoot, y'all don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about that. Y'all talking about man, I ain't shoot before.
Speaker 3: I ain't shooting forty five percent.
Speaker 6: Hey hey, hey, but look, that's why you see guys
Speaker 6: on me shooting them half courting them long shots. They're
Speaker 6: like man ship that them shots that mess up your average. Hey,
Speaker 6: you see the NBA at the at the end of
Speaker 6: the I think that at the end of the quarter,
Speaker 6: they don't count them anymore.
Speaker 3: In a quarter and a half. Yeah, like damn, I've
Speaker 3: let them go now. Yeah, yeah, he if it go in,
Speaker 3: I get the credit. If it don't, it don't harm
Speaker 3: me there you go. Yeah yeah, let me get that.
Speaker 3: Come up, give me that, give me that right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But hey boy, he used to see guys on they
Speaker 6: wouldn't shoot it.
Speaker 1: I don't care why.
Speaker 6: I don't act like they'll act like they tried to
Speaker 6: shoot it, but they weren't trying to get a thing.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing I've seen quarterbacks at the end
Speaker 3: of the they didn't want to throw the hell Mary,
Speaker 3: they throw the check down right at the end of
Speaker 3: the at the end of the you know, right before halftimes,
Speaker 3: they don't get no interception.
Speaker 1: No, they don't want to.
Speaker 3: Incompletion, I'm trying to keep my completion percentage ump and
Speaker 3: my guy wouldn't throw deep God take the check down
Speaker 3: because they don't want to. They don't want to run
Speaker 3: the risk. They want a high completion percentage ball.
Speaker 1: So you think if you checked that ball down, that
Speaker 1: bag gonna go eighty five yards. Now, he ain't got it.
Speaker 1: He ain't gotta go eighty five.
Speaker 6: But if he could get another twelve on this on
Speaker 6: what I already got that, I take that, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Do you think this situation is creating animosity between Kminga
Speaker 6: and the Warriors?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think and it's heart of hearts. I
Speaker 6: think Kaminga knew going into this season on what it
Speaker 6: would be, you know what I mean. I think it
Speaker 6: was a disdain from him and the organization this summer
Speaker 6: trying to get a new contract, and once they were
Speaker 6: able to get one, I still don't feel like he
Speaker 6: was happy. You can kind of, you know, you can
Speaker 6: look at body language and tell when guys out there
Speaker 6: playing if they really enjoying it and having fun, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Yes, Like when I watched the game.
Speaker 6: That's one of the major things. I'm looking at his
Speaker 6: body language, how you interact with your teammates, things of
Speaker 6: that sort, because that's that plays a huge dividy ends
Speaker 6: on wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think the thing is is that I think,
Speaker 3: deep down to his side, that's why he waited till
Speaker 3: the very last minute to sign this contract. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he knows. He's like, you know what, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: back in the same situation. And if I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: in the same situation, y'all gonna give me a little
Speaker 3: bit more money because all I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Do is be mad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to keep me from you know, at the donkey,
Speaker 3: give me a couple of seven eight more million dollars
Speaker 3: and shorten that contract from three years to two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I also think I also think they tried to
Speaker 6: trade him this summer too. Like I said, I just
Speaker 6: I'm not sure his value was a high so it
Speaker 6: wasn't the market wasn't where it needed to be, right,
Speaker 6: I don't think the market was where it needed to be,
Speaker 6: So they just they felt signing them would be the
Speaker 6: best thing, just bringing back and then you know, when
Speaker 6: you get to this bridge here. You know, we'll cross
Speaker 6: it when we get to it. So now they at
Speaker 6: the point they got to make a decision.
Speaker 3: You're right, they got to make a decision, and he
Speaker 3: wont that decision like yesterday, that decision in the summer,
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know where I'm going, but they
Speaker 3: anywhere be better than here.
Speaker 1: They this man been getting DMPs.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about when they've been having guys out when
Speaker 6: they needed.
Speaker 3: Him, Joe. If you think about it, look at what
Speaker 3: he did. He played really well in the postseason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he played really well, And I'm like, oh, he's showing
Speaker 3: him what he can do.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's even athletic, I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean he he'll knock down occasion on three, but
Speaker 3: his thing is based on athletics. See them getting to
Speaker 3: the rim.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I think him and courage just got
Speaker 6: to disdain somewhere. I don't know where it happened or
Speaker 6: if it's Cominga's play because you know, like he ain't
Speaker 6: really like no playmaker neither. You know, like I said,
Speaker 6: he's a downhill bandit. Obviously defensively he.
Speaker 1: Can rig have it.
Speaker 6: He can guard probably one through five, he can rebound.
Speaker 6: I think he'll be a pretty good defensive player, but offensively,
Speaker 6: he just hadn't. He just hadn't fit the system based
Speaker 6: on what they want to do. Now he might go
Speaker 6: to a system, go to another situation, Joe, where it's
Speaker 6: not as much ball movement as it is in Golden State,
Speaker 6: and it's a little bit more you know, io, and
Speaker 6: he's able to get the ball in his hand and
Speaker 6: get downhill.
Speaker 1: He might look like a superstar.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna win, right, kind of like uh,
Speaker 6: kind of like Porter Jr. For the New for the
Speaker 6: Brooklyn Next he said, he said, man, I can average
Speaker 6: twenty five to twenty six points a.
Speaker 1: Game, and he's over there doing it. Yea.
Speaker 6: Now they getting their butt, they getting they butt kicked
Speaker 6: every night. But he over there putting them numbers up. Yeah,
Speaker 6: at which a Paul lay into another big contract. There
Speaker 6: you go, there you go, But they might they might
Speaker 6: end up getting off poured over there.
Speaker 1: Who the nets? Oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: He got so much, he got so much value right
Speaker 6: now he already don't won a championship. You know, he
Speaker 6: can play with other great players. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 6: think he wanted this situation kind of for himself. I
Speaker 6: agree because he knows he was gonna be the fourth option.
Speaker 6: Murray Gordon him. Yeah, he tired of playing, He tired
Speaker 6: of playing the background.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Darren Waller went on Johnny Manziel's Glory Days podcast and
Speaker 3: told the story about how he and Mike McDaniel was
Speaker 3: talking one on one during the end of their season
Speaker 3: meeting when owner Stephen Ross walked in. McDaniel had literally
Speaker 3: just told Waller that he wants him back in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six. Ross joined their little conversation for a bit.
Speaker 3: Then the conversation got quiet and Waller got the sense
Speaker 3: that he should leave the room. He checked his phone.
Speaker 3: Twenty minutes later, and Mike McDaniel was fired. I was
Speaker 3: at the scene of the crime. The NFL is a
Speaker 3: wild business, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's how it go. It's cut through like that. I
Speaker 1: didn't look Dan Reeves.
Speaker 3: And when coach Reeves and John was having their issues,
Speaker 3: John Dan was like Tom, Coach Landry, run the football.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna put the ball in harm's way. We're
Speaker 3: gonna try to play great defense. And then Roger Starback
Speaker 3: was there. Roger would win it. Yeah, Roger to Dodger
Speaker 3: and That's why John Elway had so many That's why
Speaker 3: John had so many comebacks, because they we wouldn't do
Speaker 3: anything for quarters for three and a half quarters, and
Speaker 3: then the game would still be close and John would
Speaker 3: win it in the end. It is and it's really tough.
Speaker 3: But I've never heard a situation like this. Normally, a
Speaker 3: the owners called you to his office. The owner, like
Speaker 3: the owner walked in to the coach's office when he's
Speaker 3: doing in the end of season interviews, exit interviews. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's that's really wild. Normally, they call you into their
Speaker 3: meeting and tell you to call you into their office
Speaker 3: or the general managine, you know, they had a conversation.
Speaker 3: We're going in a different direction. But so I've never
Speaker 3: heard I've never heard of a situation like this. So
Speaker 3: they had a conversation. I think we're talking about Steven
Speaker 3: where he called John Harbaugh on the phone.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, I thought it would be a.
Speaker 3: You know, an anatomy move, like the man had just
Speaker 3: left and say turn around to meet me back at
Speaker 3: the you know, at the office in an hour, just
Speaker 3: like you know, hey, you're gonna do what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Just let hey and you know, it was tough.
Speaker 3: I mean, telling somebody is fired is not easy, right,
Speaker 3: I mean because he's had success, he's winning. His coach
Speaker 3: and the organization is only thirty years of age, but
Speaker 3: he's the you're winning his coach and the and their
Speaker 3: young tenure. You got Look, you got Lamar. So is
Speaker 3: it a very appealing job? You got Lamar? You got
Speaker 3: a quarterback, you got a two time MVP quarterback.
Speaker 1: Is this contract up up? Is he really? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, contracts not up. But they gotta do something.
Speaker 3: He got like a seventy five seventy six million dollar cap.
Speaker 3: Yet so they and Steve Bshatti has made it abundantly
Speaker 3: clear he wants Lamar. If Lamar wants that, If not,
Speaker 3: he say hey, we'll play it out and move move on.
Speaker 3: But he wants it because you know, Steve, look, Steve,
Speaker 3: very matter of fact, he laid on the table and said, look,
Speaker 3: I want to do this thing for another ten years.
Speaker 1: I'm sixty five. I said, I'm looking at it from
Speaker 1: seventy five. Now.
Speaker 3: If we had a couple of bad seasons when I
Speaker 3: met that age, I'm probably gonna sell the team. If
Speaker 3: we had a couple of good seasons, I'm probably gonna
Speaker 3: keep holding on. But anyway, he said, I'm looking to
Speaker 3: move on. He said, I'm not gonna get this thing.
Speaker 3: It's not going to my family. He said it caused
Speaker 3: too much problems. Yes, I've seen it turned families against
Speaker 3: each other, and that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I've abundantly clear. So so who you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: bring in? What's what's a good? What's what's a good?
Speaker 3: I mentioned the name Clint Kubiak. Clint Kubiak is the
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: I played with Clint's dad. I remember Clint whether.
Speaker 3: He was a kid running and shagging balls and being
Speaker 3: the ball boy on the field for us where he
Speaker 3: he couldn't have been no more than like six or seven, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe eight. His dad was my quarterback, was to back
Speaker 3: up to John and then he was my offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: So I've been knowing them, and he's really good. You
Speaker 3: see the imagination that he has with Seattle's offense. You
Speaker 3: saw what Jackson JSN did and Jigba. They run the
Speaker 3: football that West Coast system, you gotta run it. Then
Speaker 3: they play action pass and he has a quarterback. His
Speaker 3: quarterback in Baltimore is better than the quarterback that he
Speaker 3: has in Seattle. So I can just imagine with his
Speaker 3: imagination and that quarterback and that running back to be
Speaker 3: able to run the football like they.
Speaker 1: Can run it and play action off of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what Dick Henry got another year over there, got
Speaker 6: two years, two years and thirty second.
Speaker 3: He was second last year in rushing over nineteen two
Speaker 3: years ago with over nineteen hundred yards. He was second
Speaker 3: the league in rushing bitch year with like fifty almost
Speaker 3: sixteen hundred yards.
Speaker 1: He still got traid on the tire. He still got
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I'm i'm uh, they gotta but they got Hey,
Speaker 3: they gotta get the number one thing. They gotta get
Speaker 3: whoever whatever guard is available in for egency, the Baltimore
Speaker 3: got a sign it they gotta get. They gotta get.
Speaker 3: They gotta get that left that left that right guard
Speaker 3: up out of there. He killing Lamar, He killing Lamar
Speaker 3: and the running game. But and they need some defense, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they do. They can they can't.
Speaker 1: They can't.
Speaker 6: They gonna put they can put some points of the boy.
Speaker 6: They can't stop nothing, they stop nobody. They can't stop nobody.
Speaker 6: It's definitely an tightson job though. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: you know what what having Lamar and Henry back then,
Speaker 6: I'm surprised, you know, ain't no coaches jumped on that
Speaker 6: situation already?
Speaker 1: Well, I think.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe some of the coaches that they're interested in
Speaker 3: are still in the playoffs, so you can't anybody right now.
Speaker 3: You had a window the Broncos and the Seahawks, so
Speaker 3: you could interview coaches in that window, Bill Zoom, obviously,
Speaker 3: but if your team was in the playoffs, you can't
Speaker 3: talk until after your season is over. So now moving now,
Speaker 3: there will be another break in between the NFC AFC check,
Speaker 3: between the championship games and the Super Bowl, So there's
Speaker 3: a dead weekend there in which you can interview vill
Speaker 3: Zoom for a job. But yeah, I'm you got to
Speaker 3: get the right coach in this situation because you got
Speaker 3: too much at stake, you got too much riding on it.
Speaker 3: You got Lamar, Rix mcdabb in this prime window. You
Speaker 3: got Derrick Henry that has a couple more years left.
Speaker 3: You got to get this thing right. Yeah, get this
Speaker 3: thing right, because you look Drake May. Yeah, you got
Speaker 3: Josh Allen you got CJ. Stroud, you got both Nicks,
Speaker 3: you got Trouvor Lawrence. So it's not getting any easier.
Speaker 3: But they got some talent. Boy, they got some talent
Speaker 3: over there. They got some offensive talent. I don't know
Speaker 3: how much defense talent they got.
Speaker 1: They ain't got. No, they need some help defensively.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like Flowers, uh, I like their I
Speaker 3: like Henry obviously, I like Lamar. I'm surprised that what
Speaker 3: they did with Andrews because basically they're they're saying bye
Speaker 3: to lit Likely.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and yeah you're not go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gave you gave Andrews what three
Speaker 3: years forty million and then what then what he's signed for? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's you know, you're not bringing him back because somebody's
Speaker 3: gonna payhim big money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought they would let Andrews go
Speaker 3: and then keep keep uh Likely. But three years for
Speaker 3: the year, So I was, I was, I was surprised
Speaker 3: by that move. But they need defense, they need pass rushers.
Speaker 3: They need pass rushers. They need them bad too, really bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They they they gave what they were what they was
Speaker 6: in the defensive bottom defensive rad and they was near
Speaker 6: the bottom.
Speaker 1: This year, the two cornerbacks gave up the most yardage them.
Speaker 6: Boil was again smoked out there. Why but when you
Speaker 6: can't rush the pass, I mean, what what what are
Speaker 6: your what are your options? You can't hold up all day?
Speaker 6: And they couldn't rush the quarterback. They couldn't get the
Speaker 6: quarterback off its mark. So the quarterback is just back there,
Speaker 6: packed the ball, packed the ball packed the ball.
Speaker 1: Mmm. So it's tough.
Speaker 3: The Bears round playoff game and expected to be one
Speaker 3: of the coldest games in NFL history. Joe, look at
Speaker 3: this video of blither conditions happening right now coming off
Speaker 3: Lake Michigan. Uh sixty mile wins, heavy snows are leading
Speaker 3: to nearly no visitability.
Speaker 1: Man, can't nobody playing no football now?
Speaker 3: If it's like that, they're gonna be out there, they
Speaker 3: gonna be playing in then Hell yeah, man, come on, Winch.
Speaker 3: You have the expected for lange between zero and ten
Speaker 3: miles ten degrees throughout the day on Sunday win gusts
Speaker 3: up to twenty miles an hour. The Rams haven't played
Speaker 3: in the game below fifty all season, according to NFL
Speaker 3: Stats Matthew Stafford and bad weather games with the Rams
Speaker 3: cold rain or snow one in eight fifty four point
Speaker 3: six completion percentage, fourteen touchdowns, eleven interception. Oh kay, excuse me,
Speaker 3: look at it. Look at this. We're gonna turn the
Speaker 3: sound and listen to the sound.
Speaker 1: Joe, right, I'm cold. I'm cold right here. Hey, ain't
Speaker 1: no way they've been playing that. Hey, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3: You think the stand's gonna be filled up to absolutely pack?
Speaker 1: Oh no, because fans get a kick out of says.
Speaker 3: I was at that game when you played the Ice
Speaker 3: Bowl when it was twenty seven thirty. You go back
Speaker 3: and look at Cincinnati San Diego. I think that was
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one. Wind chill was like fifty nine. Go
Speaker 3: back and look at the Chargers against Cincinnati. I think
Speaker 3: the wind chield was like forty fifty degrees below Zeo,
Speaker 3: who was the wind chill?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 6: If they playing in anything close to this what I'm
Speaker 6: looking at, I got the bad.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the baths this weekend, Diah.
Speaker 3: I remember, Joe, nineteen eighty one, the Chargers played Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: win chill minus fifty nine.
Speaker 1: The man said, nineteen eighty one, I remember the game.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I told the Chargers Chargers. The Chargers
Speaker 3: had just beat the Dolphins. Kellen Winslow had a historic game,
Speaker 3: unbelievable end up blocking a field goal. They wanted to
Speaker 3: have to carry him out the field and for his
Speaker 3: his his, his herculean effort. Go to Cincinnati fifty nine below.
Speaker 3: They got thumped. I think they lost twenty seven to nothing.
Speaker 1: Fifty nine. What was the final score below? Twenty seven
Speaker 1: to seven?
Speaker 3: Okay, oh you, Oh, so that's why you don't remember
Speaker 3: you was just being born, oh.
Speaker 1: Burn in eighty one. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh you played in weather like that before?
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember that game. I'm saying, I'm saying
Speaker 3: you done played in something like that. I think one
Speaker 3: of the coldest game I played we played in Green
Speaker 3: Bay in ninety six. It was about thirteen degrees minus
Speaker 3: thirteen and we played the Chiefs in the divisional round
Speaker 3: in ninety It was in ninety eight, so it's probably
Speaker 3: January of ninety eight. What was the temperature in ninety six?
Speaker 3: It was December of ninety six.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, what it's like getting hitting that type of temperature?
Speaker 6: And that was what the ground feel like.
Speaker 3: Man, I think let gonna see men, Joe, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna lie, Joe. I'm glad back this.
Speaker 1: See me.
Speaker 3: I had construction gloves on. I wasn't oh, but but
Speaker 3: I caught the past. I caught the well plass.
Speaker 1: They throve it well.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even imagine. Huh minus seventeen in Green Bay, right,
Speaker 3: what was it? What was the the Kansas City?
Speaker 1: Hey, how the bands ain't got no dome over there? Man,
Speaker 1: you take away the advantage.
Speaker 3: Man. Man, come on, man, we don't get the soda
Speaker 3: used to but Minnesota used to play outside before they
Speaker 3: got the dome.
Speaker 1: And boys cold in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs with January of ninety it was January
Speaker 3: of ninety January.
Speaker 1: No, it was January of ninety nine. January of ninety nine.
Speaker 6: Man, under these conditions here, man, I don't know how
Speaker 6: you can get out there and play man, not not
Speaker 6: in that, not in that type of weather we just seen.
Speaker 3: And you know, hey, Joe, you know you got to
Speaker 3: go out there. We had no sleep. I had to
Speaker 3: show them. I had to show them. Guz I had
Speaker 3: that VASc lead on.
Speaker 1: The our side of the.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Hey, listen, So why white
Speaker 6: dudes be coming out there with their shirts off and
Speaker 6: all that warming up before the game.
Speaker 1: When it's like that, I don't know what them foods thinking.
Speaker 3: I ain't going out there until I have absolutely have
Speaker 3: to iop going out.
Speaker 1: There as.
Speaker 3: I'm competing against my opponent and his weather. So I
Speaker 3: am not going out there until I absolutely have to.
Speaker 3: The heart, it's easier to play in it than practicing it.
Speaker 3: It's when it's practiced when you don't have those heats,
Speaker 3: those heat is benches, and you don't have their adrenaline
Speaker 3: going right right. Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine. Boy, listen,
Speaker 3: you say, hi.
Speaker 1: Look at this. What's something? Ban fella? Tell him your name?
Speaker 3: He said, my name is Teddy Barrows.
Speaker 1: He hey, look he happy daddy home?
Speaker 3: Boy is he mad? As soon as I came through
Speaker 3: the door, man, man titles done done. Rip my Montclair jacket?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I said, boy. But uh yeah, them jokes
Speaker 3: here they he once I come home, they ain't got
Speaker 3: nothing to do with Auntie no more. He said, I
Speaker 3: got my he got my pajamas on. He say, dadd
Speaker 3: this play is my bedtie. But oh yeah, Joe, that's
Speaker 3: that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: Why you if you're a cold weather team, you want
Speaker 3: to get home field. I want the Rams? You playing
Speaker 3: that dome? Yeah yeah, played in Carolina. Well it was
Speaker 3: a little cold, but you don't know cold yet, right
Speaker 3: cho Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking about
Speaker 3: I wanted to be cold the sun and the sun
Speaker 3: come up with an overcoat on. And if they're gonna
Speaker 3: be playing in that, that's that's that's damn sure what
Speaker 3: it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see statues got overcoats.
Speaker 6: If Scully's over no man, no man, that's gonna be
Speaker 6: a tough one now, especially for the Rams.
Speaker 3: Today's Eagles general manager Howie Roseman was asked whether he's
Speaker 3: opened the trading AJ Brown, to which Roseman responded, it's
Speaker 3: hard to find great players in the NFL, and AJ
Speaker 3: is a great player. That's what we're going out looking
Speaker 3: for when we go out in free agency and the
Speaker 3: draft is trying to find great players who love football,
Speaker 3: and he's that. So that would be my answers. Uh,
Speaker 3: the question that they look, they understand it's hard to
Speaker 3: replace because I know what he is. He's a proven commodity,
Speaker 3: he's a he's a.
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl All Pro super Bowl winning player when he
Speaker 1: wants to be that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this year for whatever reason, Look, it's it's
Speaker 3: just hard. I don't I don't know. I honestly, I
Speaker 3: don't know what motivates. I don't know what happened. Because
Speaker 3: he's like when he won the super Bowl, he's like,
Speaker 3: it wasn't fulfilling. Well, if you got if you're making money,
Speaker 3: you want you You've been an All Pro, you going
Speaker 3: to Pro Bowl, you win the Super Bowl? What is what?
Speaker 3: What is what left? What is left? If I got
Speaker 3: a thirty plus billion dollar contract, I'm a Pro Bowl player,
Speaker 3: I'm an All Pro player, and I'm a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Is a for philling.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't really know what else there is.
Speaker 3: If you play a sport, Joe you, Joe, you you
Speaker 3: an All NBA All Star, you win a champion and
Speaker 3: you like, and you're making forty million dollars a year,
Speaker 3: and you win the championship and they come to you
Speaker 3: and say, Joe, how you feel.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not it's not as fulfilling as I thought.
Speaker 6: Nah, No, I ain't gonna say that, but I think
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna say that.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say.
Speaker 6: That, but I know for some guys, man, when they
Speaker 6: feel like they ain't bawling or doing their thing out there,
Speaker 6: many they won't. They want their stats over championship. Now,
Speaker 6: they may not come out and say it, but that's
Speaker 6: what they want. It's like, man, we want a championship,
Speaker 6: but damn man, they have but twenty yards and two catches.
Speaker 3: Hey go look at my Super Bowl numbers. There ain't nothing,
Speaker 3: but I got three rings. I don't pass down to
Speaker 3: each of my kids. Hey, hey, that wasn't the game plan.
Speaker 3: Didn't call for Sharton Sharp to go? Hey, why right?
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I was making good money out been a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 3: I was an All Pro. After you become an All Pro,
Speaker 3: after you become a Pro Bowl player, don't left. Just
Speaker 3: won a championship is to solidify, right, make sure people
Speaker 3: know that all those catchers and yards and everything that
Speaker 3: you was doing, well, yeah you did that, But how
Speaker 3: many games did you win? Did your stats go to winning?
Speaker 3: Look at my Look at my numbers. When I called
Speaker 3: for one hundred yards or call a touchdown, we won? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all I cared about. I want to win all
Speaker 3: the other stuff. That's why I didn't get up and
Speaker 3: look and now look back at that, said man. I
Speaker 3: could have easily gone to John and say, hey, bro, hey,
Speaker 3: I need five yards. But I ain't never asked him
Speaker 3: to throw me the ball, so you they know what
Speaker 3: I can do. I used to get up, said Joe,
Speaker 3: you know, and then I'm bull around, bull dried around.
Speaker 1: All game long.
Speaker 3: Now here come the fourth quarter, we down fourteen. You
Speaker 3: gonna ask me what I like. I like for this
Speaker 3: game to be over, so I get my ass on
Speaker 3: that buzz and get home. You should have you should
Speaker 3: have asked me this.
Speaker 1: In the first quarter. Spread it around, yeah, yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: let it. Let everybody touch it, okay, yeah, knowing what
Speaker 1: you doing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, look but like I said, you know, some
Speaker 6: catch with a ball. He look, I remember too, you know,
Speaker 6: coming down it's the last five to seven minutes of
Speaker 6: a game. Now, all of a sudden, everybody looking for you.
Speaker 6: They looking for Joe to get us up out this rut.
Speaker 6: Then what what what we've been doing the whole game?
Speaker 1: Y'all? Give me the ball? Yeah, so I understand, man,
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna run this over he were in this pit. A.
Speaker 3: We're gonna run one, Joe you at you at the top.
Speaker 5: Yeah we look we ain't ran all their game now.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I know exactly what you said. We have
Speaker 5: been reading this in the first second quarter.
Speaker 3: Man, what you're looking for? I thank your brother on
Speaker 3: the floor. Thanos. Yeah no, this is not This is
Speaker 3: not Thanos in my lap. This Teddy Beary in my lap.
Speaker 3: The Athletic released the store today on Mike Tomlin's final
Speaker 3: team meeting with the Steelers players and the surreal scene
Speaker 3: he'm surrounding it, Mike Tomlin told his team, I think
Speaker 3: it's best for I think it's best for the organization
Speaker 3: for me to step down.
Speaker 1: T J.
Speaker 3: Watt had tears welling in his eyes and keep repeating no, no, no.
Speaker 3: As Tomblin told the team. Joey Porter Jr. Was reportedly hyperventilated.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was sobbing and repeatedly saying I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: steal his player gave Tomblin a standing ovation.
Speaker 6: That's what's up, man. That's when you know your guys
Speaker 6: respect you, bro. Yep, they respect they respect the heck
Speaker 6: got that man, man and what he's done for that organization. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: and as a player, it definitely hurts you because you know, uh,
Speaker 6: you feel like you was a part of him getting
Speaker 6: out of there. Yeah, that's why those guys so hurt.
Speaker 6: They feel like, man, if we would have played at
Speaker 6: our at our highest peak, we could have we could
Speaker 6: have avoided this situation. So yeah, I can see why
Speaker 6: guys really taking it hard.
Speaker 1: I've done that.
Speaker 3: I remember as I got old, I remember seeing Coach
Speaker 3: Reeves because the gym I used to go to the
Speaker 3: church that he attend would was right across the street.
Speaker 3: And I remember I remember, like I saved you. Probably
Speaker 3: it didn't have closed it down, but anyway, and I
Speaker 3: saw him and I just I remember going up to
Speaker 3: him and saying, Coach, I'm sorry, Yeah said he said, Shannon,
Speaker 3: he's the one what it never called me by my
Speaker 3: last name, or called me or called me eighty four.
Speaker 3: You always called me Shannon. And say Shannon what he
Speaker 3: I said, Coach? I said, had I been the player
Speaker 3: that I became, maybe I could have saved the job, right,
Speaker 3: And he just told me, he says, So he said,
Speaker 3: that's nice of you to say, but you ain't got
Speaker 3: none apologize for.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm.
Speaker 3: Proud that we drafted you. I'm proud of the player
Speaker 3: that you became. Same thing with Waye Phillips. I was
Speaker 3: I was that player. I had became that player. But
Speaker 3: I did, I did all I could. I had, you know,
Speaker 3: two thousand yard receive and had like one hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty catches.
Speaker 1: Just what it just wasn't meant to be. Uh had
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy eight catch catches.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't meant to be. Joe and then Mike.
Speaker 3: But I hate because that happened on my watch. What
Speaker 3: could I have done differently? And I know for certain,
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure besides getting injured and having to
Speaker 3: take them, I want't one hundred percent had I do
Speaker 3: believe had I became the player that I later became
Speaker 3: that ended up going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
Speaker 3: I do believe I could have saved Dan's career. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I believe I could have saved them in Denver. Now,
Speaker 3: maybe at a lady didn't time mister B one. Maybe
Speaker 3: mister b just wanted to go in a completely different direction.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe so because coach Reeves had been to three
Speaker 3: Super Bowls, lost the AMC championship game.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like he was lose it.
Speaker 3: But he just wanted to go in and in in
Speaker 3: a different direction.
Speaker 1: But it's tough if you care.
Speaker 3: Now, if you don't care, some people like, hey, players,
Speaker 3: players get cut all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look at it like that.
Speaker 6: Uh hey, look my first year in Brooklyn when I
Speaker 6: got traded to Brooklyn from Atlanta, I played. Avery Johnson
Speaker 6: was our head coach. Great dude, great dude, accountability, like
Speaker 6: he gonna be on you, like he gonna ride you hard.
Speaker 1: You know, tell you what the dudes and don'ts. But man,
Speaker 1: he was a hell of a coach. Bro. I loved
Speaker 1: him as a coach. And to for.
Speaker 6: Us to get off to such a slow start my
Speaker 6: first year in Brooklyn, I think it was kind of
Speaker 6: why he got fired because it happened on the off
Speaker 6: day for us. I'm at home, I'm watching ESPN. Ain't
Speaker 6: nobody called and been like, oh, we're gonna get rid
Speaker 6: of Avery Johnson today. I'm watching on ESPN like everybody else.
Speaker 6: He come across breaking news. I'm like, damn, so yeah,
Speaker 6: I understand. As a player, bro, you take you take
Speaker 6: heart today because I'm like, yeah, he's a dope coach.
Speaker 6: Bro Dvonta Adams says he told his teammates included Pook
Speaker 6: and the Cop that they would they should never leave
Speaker 6: LA because it ain't greener than this, representing his experience
Speaker 6: leaving the Packers and being with the Raiders and the Jets.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, getting a chance to play with
Speaker 6: another great quarterback and Matthew Stafford who throwing.
Speaker 1: That peel around the way you do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think the thing is with Tay is
Speaker 3: that he wanted to get something done.
Speaker 1: He wanted to get something done before he.
Speaker 3: Got to the before and then when the season came
Speaker 3: and they didn't do anything, and then he goes out
Speaker 3: and has a monster season, all of a sudden, he's like, nah, y'all,
Speaker 3: donne risk made me put this on the line. Y'all
Speaker 3: knew what I could do, and y'all make me go
Speaker 3: through this. And I think I think a part of him,
Speaker 3: a part of if pride, was hurt because they didn't
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Now he goes to the Raiders, his.
Speaker 3: College teammates there, so it's not like he doesn't know
Speaker 3: what he's getting into Yeah, but after one year they
Speaker 3: let his qualit, they let his teammate go. Yeah, he's stuck.
Speaker 3: And then he goes to the Jets and that dysfunctional organization.
Speaker 3: And even though he got Aaron Rodgers, wasn't the best Nope, nope.
Speaker 6: And he even got over there to the Rams. I'm
Speaker 6: talking about done a number the offensive.
Speaker 1: Mind.
Speaker 3: You got a quarterback, you're in a controlled environment because
Speaker 3: think about who you play. You got the Cardinals, they
Speaker 3: play inside. Yeah, so that's not of your games right
Speaker 3: there that you're gonna be in seventy two degrees m
Speaker 3: Now you mess right to get somebody in the alc
Speaker 3: and get a couple of more games. That's a that's ten.
Speaker 3: Well some years now you have nine games, because some
Speaker 3: years you have you know, nine home games, eight road games. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, so he's right, he's right. But everybody's
Speaker 3: always thinking that, you know, the grass is greener and
Speaker 3: h if you got a historic quarterback, you better stay
Speaker 3: your ass with it. Now you might go ben some
Speaker 3: money now, but them numbers dan't gonna be the same.
Speaker 3: Start the numbers start slipping, everybody gonna say, see you
Speaker 3: are product of that system.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got you. You got somebody throwing you that
Speaker 6: piell boy. Don't take it for granted. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen was playing long snapper at the team's practice
Speaker 3: the day before their playoff game.
Speaker 1: Check this video out. Joe oh snapper. Come on, what
Speaker 1: do you got going on? I guess he's the emergency
Speaker 1: long snapper. Nope. I didn't want to do nothing.
Speaker 3: They're like, we got this reverse, let Futz run it.
Speaker 3: You ain't want no problem. I don't want to throw
Speaker 3: me the ball. Don't hand it to me. I'm done
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 3: I got my running back day when I was in
Speaker 3: high school, was I was a junior, was going into
Speaker 3: my senior year. I left the running back position. I
Speaker 3: got tired of people talking about my bad shop. Man
Speaker 3: who man man shop?
Speaker 1: That's me? That's me.
Speaker 6: Nah, bro, you ain't telling about like missing missing they.
Speaker 3: Missed the block bad by bad shop, My bad bad
Speaker 3: dude that got by hell with twisted Joe you talked
Speaker 3: about by bad. I'm good. Nah, don't hand me no ball.
Speaker 3: Throw it to me down in the field. And see
Speaker 3: the thing is, you can't hit the long you used
Speaker 3: to could punish the long snapper.
Speaker 1: You can't hit him now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, they ain't got a little solvet.
Speaker 1: They got a little soft he like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: what we got going.
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 3: Another sad story, the West was arrested for allegedly robbing
Speaker 3: someone of twenty three dollars per TMZ. What we're being
Speaker 3: told is that he's taken into custody without further incident
Speaker 3: and posted a thousand dollars bond. When they say the
Speaker 3: total the total amount taken from the victim was around
Speaker 3: twenty three dollars. Damn, Joe, do you know have you
Speaker 3: ever do you know him? Have you ever been had
Speaker 3: any any contact with him?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 6: I just played against him, un but obviously I'm paying
Speaker 6: attention and I see what's going on. You know, it
Speaker 6: hurts to see him in those situations, man, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I know, I know people have reached out
Speaker 6: and tried to help him. Yes, obviously he probably probably
Speaker 6: just he don't want it, you know, due to whatever
Speaker 6: issues he's dealing with. Yeah, you know, sometimes man, you
Speaker 6: can you can do whatever you can to try and
Speaker 6: help somebody, but you gotta want it.
Speaker 3: I had I had Mark Cuban on my podcast and
Speaker 3: he said, you say Shannon. We did everything we could,
Speaker 3: and we thought we had him there. We thought, we thought,
Speaker 3: and he just left mm hmm. And he's like, you know,
Speaker 3: and I reached out personally and did things. He's like,
Speaker 3: I don't really know. I don't really know what else
Speaker 3: to do, right unless that individual really wants to help.
Speaker 3: And they say you let him hit rock bottom. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think you can go any lord, and what
Speaker 3: he's already gone. No, but you just had And I
Speaker 3: understand addiction. It's one day. I mean, because an addiction, okay,
Speaker 3: you you you sobriety.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I hear people say I've been sober. Chris Carter tells
Speaker 3: the story all the time. He knows the exact days,
Speaker 3: how many days he's been, you know sober. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: every day, every day, Yo, you gotta go by a
Speaker 3: bar or package store when you go into the store
Speaker 3: and you gotta say no, yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's how gambling addiction you gotta go.
Speaker 3: If you go to the casino and you gotta you
Speaker 3: gotta say the park, you just gotta say no, if
Speaker 3: you gotta shot, whatever.
Speaker 1: The case may be.
Speaker 3: You just got us every single day for the the
Speaker 3: rest of your life.
Speaker 1: And that's hard, bro.
Speaker 6: It is when you're recovering whatever you were recovering from,
Speaker 6: Like it's hard. Like you know, my my pops passed
Speaker 6: away in July. He was, uh, you know, recovering drug
Speaker 6: and alcoholics. So I know, I know what it looked like.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. And you can't. I don't
Speaker 6: care what you do for that person, bro, Like it's
Speaker 6: they have to want it. They have to want to
Speaker 6: get better more than you wanted. They gotta want it
Speaker 6: more for themselves than you want it for them. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's what I told my kids. I said, I can't
Speaker 6: want something for you more than you want it for yourself. Absolutely,
Speaker 6: And that's and that's you know, hey, my dad, my
Speaker 6: dad had an alcohol had an alcohol problem and it
Speaker 6: ended up causing him.
Speaker 1: You know, he had both of his cheek bones removed,
Speaker 1: and he just.
Speaker 3: He was he was embarrassed about coming around and then
Speaker 3: you know he's like, I don't want my kids to
Speaker 3: see you see me like this. Yeah, and uh, at
Speaker 3: that point in time, I just wanted to see him
Speaker 3: because I had only seen it once in my life
Speaker 3: to know who I was actually looking at, like this
Speaker 3: man is my father. Yeah, he came and you know,
Speaker 3: my grandmother came and got me from Chicago and brought
Speaker 3: me and my brother back on the train.
Speaker 1: I was three months old.
Speaker 3: My dad showed back up and took me back to
Speaker 3: Chicago when I was seven months old, and then we
Speaker 3: got sent me and my brother, my sister.
Speaker 1: We came back down.
Speaker 3: I was two, my sister was ten, my brother was five,
Speaker 3: and so we had been at that point in time,
Speaker 3: we had been so since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: I had lived with my grandmother and my grandfather.
Speaker 3: And I remember I was coming, we came home from
Speaker 3: church and he was he was in the drive he
Speaker 3: was in the driveway, and I remember granted asking me,
Speaker 3: do I know who it is? And I was like,
Speaker 3: the man looked like me. So we got to be
Speaker 3: my dad. But I had never seen him. I had
Speaker 3: never seen him before, just a couple of pictures of it.
Speaker 3: And I remember I remember gotting out of the car
Speaker 3: and I got over that hug and he asked, He asked, Papa.
Speaker 3: He said, mister Barney, can I take the boys overnight?
Speaker 3: You know they got the you know they got school tomorrow.
Speaker 3: He's like, yes, sir, I know, I'll make sure they
Speaker 3: get to school. Yeah, So we went home. He got
Speaker 3: we got him, and he got us and got some clothes,
Speaker 3: changed clothes that we was gonna sleep bed, clothes to
Speaker 3: sleep in and school clothes, and slept in the bed
Speaker 3: with him. And he got us up and told us
Speaker 3: he I'll never forget. He took me to school, dropped
Speaker 3: me off first, told me he loved me, that he'll
Speaker 3: see me, He'll see me again soon. This was had
Speaker 3: to be seventy seventy three, seventy four. I think I
Speaker 3: was in kindergarten. I was in kindergarten, the first grade,
Speaker 3: seventy so it was seventy three, seventy four. And see,
Speaker 3: I love you, and I see y'all. I'll see y'all.
Speaker 3: I'll see y'all again soon. Next time I saw him
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, he laid in the casket.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: So but that was you know, he had alcohol problems
Speaker 3: and just couldn't shake it. And you know, and I
Speaker 3: think he was more embarrassed that, you know, that he
Speaker 3: wasn't able to be what he thought he should be.
Speaker 3: Because you know, my gran Granny and Papa been married,
Speaker 3: had been married at that point in time. They got
Speaker 3: married in what twenty three. Papa died in seventy seven.
Speaker 3: Grandma Child and Granddaddy Williams had been married, already been married, like.
Speaker 1: You know, all those years.
Speaker 3: So he saw his mom and dad married, my grandma,
Speaker 3: you know, mama, mom and dad married, and but you
Speaker 3: can't measure your success by somebody else's success. And that
Speaker 3: was his first mistake. But he didn't know. He didn't know.
Speaker 3: And I don't hold that against my father. I do wish,
Speaker 3: like when I saw fathers would come to the game
Speaker 3: and see their sons. Yeah, I wish, I wish, you know,
Speaker 3: my dad could see me. My mom came. I made
Speaker 3: sure my son got an opportunity to see what I
Speaker 3: what I did. Uh, But yeah, I wish that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that wasn't in the cars. That wasn't in the
Speaker 3: cars for us. So, but I understand. I understand the situation, Joe.
Speaker 3: I understand when somebody has an addiction.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, nothing you can do, bro, And you know,
Speaker 6: you think you can fix it, you think you can help.
Speaker 6: But you came, man. I mean my pops, he spent
Speaker 6: he spent a lot of time in the penitentiary and uh,
Speaker 6: he got out and I moved him here to Atlanta
Speaker 6: with me. I was twenty six years old at the time,
Speaker 6: so I was six years into the NBA. That's that.
Speaker 6: That probably was the worst move. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 6: with you, bringing him, bringing him here to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: But you, but Joe, you thought you, being a son,
Speaker 3: you in a position to help. You thought you were helping.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did what most sons would do in a
Speaker 3: situation that can help help.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Boy, Yeah, he had he had these people by his
Speaker 6: fingertip on he go to the game, he said, courtside,
Speaker 6: kick his shoes off. He's sitting over there with no
Speaker 6: shoes on. I talked to him after the game. I said, hey, man,
Speaker 6: you can't be sitting over there, bro, with no shoes on.
Speaker 6: He said, Man, these shoes ain't made to be worn
Speaker 6: all day. Man, you gotta take these things out. My
Speaker 6: feet hurt. Yeah. Countryes he want to be? Country?
Speaker 1: Is he want to be? He said? I. I saw
Speaker 1: to start the team, but I ain't wearing those shoes.
Speaker 6: I'm home that man sitting over there with no shoes on. Man,
Speaker 6: it's time for our final segment. But even if it's
Speaker 6: time for Q and A man.
Speaker 3: Uh Pat Doves I watched the l Way Doc and
Speaker 3: thought I was tripping when I saw Rich Carlis kick
Speaker 3: a field goal barefooted in the cold in Cleveland. What's
Speaker 3: the story with him kicking barefooted? Rich was gone when
Speaker 3: I got there. There used to be a lot of
Speaker 3: Tony Franklin was another barefooted kicker.
Speaker 1: He kicked. Uh. He's from the University of Texas.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he kicked for the Philadelphia Eagles barefooted. I know
Speaker 3: she's gonna check that to see if I'm Rich Carlins.
Speaker 3: But they used to be barefooted kickers. I think they've
Speaker 3: ever been a barefooted punter, but yeah, they were barefooted kickers.
Speaker 3: Is that they just felt better kicking the ball with
Speaker 3: a barefoot and pulled.
Speaker 1: For the shoe on dam who yes, lands first for
Speaker 1: the Rams.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Joe White, ask him about.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: That's one of the persons being old. I remember all
Speaker 1: these guys. Uh Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, some guys just feel more
Speaker 3: comfortable kicking uh barefootage not that he I don't that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember no barefooted punters, but they're bread forty
Speaker 3: three Doctor frank A. L. Bellaman, Uh, tell me who
Speaker 3: won in bowling? And I don't want to hear. See
Speaker 3: what happened was.
Speaker 6: We keep it on so proud, We keep it on
Speaker 6: the loaf, We keep it keep on the hush y'all
Speaker 6: see when he come out. But I'm telling you we
Speaker 6: had some ball. There was time to bed.
Speaker 1: It was nice. It was nice. It was nice. All
Speaker 1: I know is I ain't finishing last Micky Jones.
Speaker 3: How come the NFL doesn't have tight ends as versatile
Speaker 3: as her Nandez was on the Patriots. Uh tight ends
Speaker 3: that could play x y Z running back? Uh John Smith?
Speaker 3: They lined him up. He's going to touch down and
Speaker 3: hand the ball off to it. They are, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: the the quarter he the quarterback here wide receiver tight end?
Speaker 1: What's the number seven? But be Taysom Hill. They are
Speaker 1: l pray.
Speaker 3: Ninety eight is my birthday and it'll be a pleasure
Speaker 3: spending it with you two. Where's your birthday.
Speaker 1: Today? All man?
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, appreciate you tuning in to watch. Uh
Speaker 3: Joe and I handled and handled the holdest thing down
Speaker 3: on the plane. Yeah, my birthday, sliving on them people. Pillow,
Speaker 3: Oh man, almighty James. I remember when Nightcap first started
Speaker 3: and was calling Oho t o now he call it
Speaker 3: Joe Ocho, Kevin bolt Night, Shannon, you're the greatest.
Speaker 1: Tight end of it.
Speaker 3: Help us out. Kittle is out, third downs goal to go,
Speaker 3: Come on, mad please. If y'all know how I feel
Speaker 3: from bowling my knees killing me, I was about I
Speaker 3: was about to pull my glute, Joe, was you? Yeah, Man,
Speaker 3: That's why I could I say bad. Look here if
Speaker 3: you know you see how I started throwing the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how you start hooping it down there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Mat Hey, Joe, I was like, man, the last thing
Speaker 3: I need is to pull my glue because I know
Speaker 3: ain't nowhere in hell ash go enter that out.
Speaker 1: I'll goa be on the floor. I said, oh no,
Speaker 1: And hey, look it's all the answers you was doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all the answers he had. You know you
Speaker 3: ain't seen nothing. Yeah you wait, you got three. No,
Speaker 3: I ain't got no dowbns. I ain't got nothing, Bro,
Speaker 3: I can't help you. DeShawn Turner winning the Big Three
Speaker 3: coming to Charlotte. Look, we're gonna put together probably about
Speaker 3: five probably about five cities that we're gonna hit this summer.
Speaker 3: Uh oh yo, Joe and I so Charlotte might be
Speaker 3: on that list. Bro here, George Scott, I'm gonna check
Speaker 3: out the rip. I'm gonna let y'all know if it's
Speaker 3: good or not. Live stream was hilarious.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: If Ocho would actually be a liability in that scenario, absolutely.
Speaker 6: No question, one thousand percent, no question. Listen, you already
Speaker 6: know it. Hey, look, I'm glad we kind of just say. Hey,
Speaker 6: we get into a sticky situation.
Speaker 1: Like that, I know who not, I know who not
Speaker 1: the call? Oh what? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look if you tell o Jo you might what
Speaker 3: just called us to eat the news. Hey, let me
Speaker 3: tell y'all what I did? Comes you getting pot? That
Speaker 3: man got twenty million dollars? You want to take it off?
Speaker 1: Turn it? Oho? Okay, we turned something in. We can
Speaker 1: get We're gonna be good. We can be a get
Speaker 1: a picture. We call it a year.
Speaker 3: They probably give us a little piece of dad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: even if they don't, we don't want no piece. Say nah,
Speaker 3: donated dodate my charity already got I got so, but
Speaker 3: don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: Hell. Hey, but it's the hell of a movie though.
Speaker 4: Man, it is.
Speaker 1: Hey, you're not gonna see what you're not gonna see
Speaker 1: the ending. You don't see that coming. Youre wid best
Speaker 1: part ever.
Speaker 3: Rogan the side piece now I soo o yo got
Speaker 3: me hooked, Dallas the Pine Bluff BJ Virginia's Jujitsu and
Speaker 3: football life.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that man, Thanks for saying that. Thank you.
Speaker 3: We pride ourselves and being able to talk a lot
Speaker 3: of different sports. We know the big the major sports
Speaker 3: is football, basketball, baseball, but we can talk anything. We
Speaker 3: talk baseball, football, track and field, golf. Uh Tour de
Speaker 3: front y'all want to talk about the tour? We talk
Speaker 3: about the tour of the win Olympics.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, I used to watch the win Olympics. The Dutch.
Speaker 3: The Dutch used to be uh uh hosted. They call
Speaker 3: him host the Boss, Johann Olip Cloths.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think you're from the Dutch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he Dutch. I just like, Hey, I just like when
Speaker 1: they took that hand and then when they come back
Speaker 1: that turn. Hey you have you have a skied of snowboard?
Speaker 1: Any y'all know? Hold off? You know I lived in
Speaker 1: Utah for two years, Me and my son, me and
Speaker 1: my kids, we used to go snowboarding. Oh did you man?
Speaker 1: Come on now? I tried to roller skate, Joe, you
Speaker 1: what you can't? You can You know you can't, you
Speaker 1: can't skate. I wasn't able to go enough. That won
Speaker 1: the two times a year. Wasn't gonna cut it. Man.
Speaker 3: I hit man, I hit my ass and my elbow
Speaker 3: so hard. No, I don't got you old. The fall
Speaker 3: now ain't literally caught me when I was tweety. Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: because out here here in Atlanta falling down with the hips.
Speaker 3: I am not going back under surgery, the Parendo hips.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Mike, Mike, what's up? Ugger eye? So,
Speaker 3: since we keep calling you Ojo is Rich trying to
Speaker 3: take over the Lakers. Man, that ain't gonna happen. Damn that, No, sir, No,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna let that. That ain't gonna happen. That
Speaker 3: concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank our
Speaker 3: very special guests Woody Marx, who put on an outstanding
Speaker 3: performance in the wildcard round with nineteen cares one hundred
Speaker 3: and twelve yards on the touchdown. We want to thank
Speaker 3: him for joining us to running back for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, y'all know who I am. I'm your
Speaker 3: favorite up and filling in for my partner Ojo Senko
Speaker 3: is the universe of Arkansas lum little Rock Native. Yes,
Speaker 3: Sir Hawk great, seven time NBA All Star. That's io
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for filling up on such short notice.
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