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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Peanut to him and this is the NFL

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Speaker 2: Player's Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 3: And with me as always, I got my guy Roaman

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Speaker 3: Harper with that. I like this. What's sweet?

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Speaker 4: I believe it is. I like correct, I thank you,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Man, thanks for all our listeners in

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Speaker 4: that I'm very excited to have our guests. We've had

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Speaker 4: him on before, but he is so intelligent, he's so

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Speaker 4: necessary and I can't wait because he always gives the

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Speaker 3: We're gonna ask it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's actually been on the show three times.

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Speaker 2: He is a Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner.

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Speaker 2: He is a College Football Hall of Famer. He is

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Speaker 2: the vice president of Football Ops. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I love the energy.

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Speaker 3: Well, the energy is high.

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Speaker 2: This morning Peanut worked out, so he's on one.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that part, where do you keep your Walter.

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Speaker 4: Troy Flat out like my wife would say, they cheeing

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Speaker 3: It says they cheaming. What's going on, Troy, that's Heller's question.

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Speaker 2: That's losers talk.

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Speaker 1: You all been in that huddle. Somebody got to make

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Speaker 1: But we're watching in AMGC, which is our McNally Game

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Speaker 2: How are restigrated? Do they if I get say two

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Speaker 3: We got to get a work out. We got to

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Speaker 1: So with the officials, you got one hundred and twenty two,

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Speaker 1: This person will call this or likely not to call it.

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Speaker 1: They typically let some chicken fighting as we would call

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Speaker 4: So Sean Payton when he was my head coach, he

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Speaker 4: They're ranked a da da da da. You know, oh

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Speaker 4: this week this referee passing affarence highly they don't really

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Speaker 4: So we did the same thing. I think that's huge,

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 4: How they got all this information. Right, you're giving them

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Speaker 1: That's what makes them extraordinary. At a high rate of speed,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I saw it. Yeah, I've been watching it for

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Speaker 1: And you could just imagine what's coming out of some

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, towards hand me up, so you when you're

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Speaker 3: Kick off?

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Speaker 1: Okay, if people, if you can remember it was last

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Speaker 3: We did that.

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Speaker 1: part of the game. That is, you got three phases.

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Speaker 1: We've all been taught three phases. Offense, defense, and special teams.

439
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: If you win.

440
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: Either of the two, more than likely you're gonna want

441
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: the outcome of that game is going to be favorable

442
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: to you. The foot is back in the game with

443
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: the dynamic kickoff, So a year ago we had a

444
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: return rate of twenty percent, you know, leaving out, we're

445
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: close to thirty I think close to thirty four, thirty

446
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: six somewhere, so high thirties.

447
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: It's a field position.

448
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Change, start drives and now twenty nine yard line unlike

449
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: the twenty four to twenty five to go five yard

450
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is a game in inches. So think

451
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: about our quarterbacks getting the ball on the thirty. So

452
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: that first intends on the thirty. The likelihood of you

453
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: score punts are down because.

454
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Drivers are starting earlier.

455
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: Now people are going for it because the close our

456
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: getting now yes, i'd say yes, go ahead.

457
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Yes, like fifty to fifty nine plays of plus forty yards.

458
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: So the kickoff got some cleaning up to do there.

459
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: So that's top priority. So that the kickoff and making

460
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Speaker 1: that a permanent rule probably reduced We had a couple

461
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: of touchbacks. You know, there was a twenty to thirty

462
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: five and forty if you kicked out of bounce. Let's

463
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: make it easy for everybody. Let's make it simpler for

464
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: the fan. Maybe just just two touchback spots. You kick

465
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Speaker 1: it to the sideline, it comes back to the thirty

466
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: five or thirty, so the membership would have to discuss that.

467
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Speaker 1: The one I have at the top of the list

468
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Speaker 1: that was very unsettling for me personally this year was

469
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: sportsman sportsmanship. You know, we were up one hundred and

470
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: thirty three percent, and.

471
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Speaker 3: Is that just like me pointing at you and now

472
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: that is so?

473
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: We were fifty fifty two percent and tawny and one

474
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three percent and and violent gestures.

475
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: So like like the gun shooting.

476
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: And guns and up my shirt to show gang gang

477
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: signs the gun and it's just so this is where yeah,

478
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: so this is where we that's all we have is

479
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: our game at I'm not trying to tell you who

480
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: you It's not about where you're from, It's about where

481
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: you at. And right now you're a professional in the

482
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: National Football League, and I've had heart to heart conversation, passionate,

483
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: emotional conversation because all we got is a game. Man,

484
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: you want to grab your little crotch and stand over

485
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: top of somebody.

486
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: The stuff that.

487
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm seeing like spitting on people, you know, poking people

488
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: in the eye like and a lot of those things

489
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: we miss but we can pick up during the week.

490
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: So I'm again, I'm gonna repeat that one hundred and

491
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Speaker 1: thirty three percent up.

492
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Speaker 4: And a lot of this is we're not seeing it

493
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: on Sundays the flag come, but you guys are seeing.

494
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: It and we send it a fast Yeah. Okay, now

495
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: people people don't realize that.

496
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Speaker 2: You realize nocts one time and I was like, wait,

497
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: the game was Sunday.

498
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: Why am I getting this letter? And you all saw this.

499
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: I hope we can just have good, good candidate, like

500
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: when I saw we had the suspension in the Houston

501
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: Tennessee game earlier with the linebacker, she's it. And then

502
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: we watched a wildcard game. When I see a player

503
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: touch a coach, I don't come from that school, like

504
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: I just it's hard for me to process that. It's

505
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: hard for me to even think about the veteran leadership

506
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: on that sideline in that locker room allowing that to happen.

507
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: So these are the little things that we need to

508
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: clean up and then replay assists. So the sportsmanship is

509
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: one that's at the top. That's something that we just

510
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: all got to agree on, every club, every head coach,

511
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: and we see it. We see what head coaches have

512
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: control of that side. We know what we see it.

513
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: I've seen two coaches this year actually confront players for

514
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: some bull job on the field, you know, and as

515
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Dan and that's John and I seen I'm sorry three

516
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: and Mike T coach Campbell. Hey man, that was a

517
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: fifteen yard stupid penalty. Yeah what you that's hurting the

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: team and it was a selfish act. So we got

519
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: to clean that up. I talked about the kickoff and

520
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: then replay replay assists. We learned last year by expanding

521
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: replay assists when we have that roughing and pastor to

522
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: the head and neck area that forcible contact because oftentimes

523
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: with the gamesmanship, if we can look at it and go,

524
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: he didn't touch him, but you know, he looks like

525
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: the same thing on the sideline that hit the runner

526
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: out of bounds.

527
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Was he in?

528
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: Was he out?

529
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: So we you know, we expanded replay assists in that

530
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: area of just a roughing pastor to the head and

531
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: neck area, runner on the sideline, and the third ones

532
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: the intentional grounding. But we feel like there's some areas

533
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: that we know we do it really well. We can

534
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: pick it up face masks, you know, kicking what specifically

535
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: about face mask So remember a rake is not a

536
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: face mask. When you see the hand and it keeps

537
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: moving even though the head, it made them glove sticky,

538
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: so they touch anything, they're gonna move the helmet. Oftentimes,

539
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: we've seen where the actual defender is grabbing inside of

540
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the shoulder pad, but when he grabs and he pulls,

541
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: the head comes back, so it appears to be it

542
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: looks real time as though it was a face mask.

543
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: And we know that's a big foul. We can quickly.

544
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: We can pick that up within five seconds. Nope is clean,

545
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: especially if there's fabric on the field. So we feel

546
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: like there's about eight categories that we feel like that

547
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: we could we can come and clean up again. To

548
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: be efficient and be accurate in that and that call

549
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: to clean up, we want to still make sure the game,

550
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: it's still flowing along.

551
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Is there is there any concern about extending the season

552
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: from seventeen games to eighteen games, specifically tarnishing or tainting

553
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: some of these records, right Sakwan he could have you know,

554
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: broke the record, but he didn't play. You got Mike Evans,

555
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: he had a thousand yards but he broke Uh no,

556
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

557
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: He tied j record, Jerry Rice's record.

558
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Is there any concern about like tainting these records because

559
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: guys are actually getting one or two extra games now

560
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: to actually to break the record.

561
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Speaker 1: I think it tells you the level of how superior

562
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: those individuals were from the past. Oh yeah, when you start,

563
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: I hear the term like graded goat all the time,

564
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: like we have like commercialized this. This guy's going to

565
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame or this guy's will go

566
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: y'all stop it, just stop it. That man, he did

567
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: that in ten games. He did that in twelve games.

568
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Those sacks he did that. That was a twelve or

569
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: fourteen game schedule. So I think as you think about

570
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: extending there's been a lot of talk about going to

571
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: an eighteen to two model. When I look at the

572
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: entire picture, and this is why players they got to

573
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: be informed and as I would say, keep the main thing,

574
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: the main thing. You know, there's an economic piece here,

575
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: and then there's a wellness because the reality is somebody

576
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it. On the other end, they're gonna

577
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: pay for it long term. When I just look at

578
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: attrition roster from week one, roster of the week seventeen eighteen,

579
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs are they're here, They're healthy. They

580
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: are probably the healthiest team, quarterbacks healthy. Philadelphia is healthy.

581
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: Lost a few people, but not those, as we would say,

582
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: not those, not those dogs, not the main dog, not

583
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: the main dogs. And I just think as the players,

584
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: as our office, as we examine all of this, there's

585
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: a lot of different factors.

586
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: That come into play.

587
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: And when we look at the rule books, rather than

588
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: a little asterisk, we need to start think about how

589
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: that is presented. When you start talking about breaking records, yeah,

590
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: he had two more games than the person that did

591
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: it back in nineteen eighty eight or nineteen ninety two

592
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: or nineteen sixty seven. So I think all the but

593
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: the attrician when I, as you all know, man week fifteen,

594
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: Week sixteen, you just making it no doubt.

595
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: So you talk about the attrition of it.

596
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: I think this is perfect segue for also because it

597
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: doesn't start just in the NFL.

598
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Now it starts in college. College plays way.

599
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: More games than they did back when you played, or

600
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: even when I played ten games was a lot. Winning

601
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: ten games was huge, and now it's just like, dude, yeah,

602
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: you just trying to get a playoff to get in

603
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: to play another three or four games, and then all

604
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you playing all these games. Then you

605
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: get into the NFL. Now we're going to seventeen eighteen

606
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: with no guardrails.

607
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: So when I say no guardrails, when I look at

608
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the way some of the colleges practice, I'm looking, you know,

609
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: with the monitors, with the chips, and I never I

610
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: can remember, like it was yesterday. I went to my

611
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: son's practice when he was at Ohio State, and I'm

612
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: looking on it. They got on this big old screen,

613
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, guys running to you know, twenty three, twenty

614
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: four miles an hour and if you're not hitting that

615
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: top speed like urban was going nuts.

616
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: And in my mind, I'm.

617
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Like, how could they do this every single day and

618
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: then show up on Saturday. But this was just mindset

619
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: and it was like go go go, go, go go go.

620
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: And at the college level, you know, it's about quantity,

621
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: not quality. So it's about more plays, more plays, more plays,

622
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: more plays, more plays, not quality. And I'm saying, Okay,

623
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: that's why you're getting beat and then you banged up.

624
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: These jokers can't make it to the getting to the

625
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: final four or the championship game.

626
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: But you can do that though, because you only got

627
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: a guy for four years, Like it's I think it's

628
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: a different mentality.

629
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm just I don't agree with it. I told that

630
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: guy is coming.

631
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: But that guy that Bama, that guy LSU, that guy

632
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Ohio Stateton and those programs like that. Yeah, that's your pro.

633
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: So you start putting that we said, well, he don't

634
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: got a lot lot of tread on, No, a lot

635
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: of tread off that tire.

636
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

637
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: I want to know this too. Uh.

638
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: This year's Super Bowl, we got another We got Patrick

639
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: Mahomes Jalen Hurts playing quarterback. The second time he's had

640
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: two African American black quarterbacks competing for a Super Bowl.

641
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: First time was these same two quarterbacks two years ago.

642
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 4: At what point does this no longer even become part

643
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: of the conversation because it was three out of the

644
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: last three out of the final four, and now this

645
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: is just what the league.

646
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Is personally and many of us that's a normal conversation.

647
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 3: I agree.

648
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Now you're looking at, you know, just starting black quarterbacks

649
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: in week one when we have sixteen seventeen we had

650
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, like it every year. But again, what

651
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: you see in college is what you're going to see here.

652
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: They're winning, they're winning championships. They don't have to prove

653
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: themselves about being smart. Can they run the offense? The

654
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: face of this league is is black quarterbacks. We've normalized

655
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: that conversation. The conversations. We're not talking about these areas like,

656
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: ohc coach, you know a year ago, you know, National

657
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Football League and to this date we don't. You still

658
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: don't have a black offensive coordinator. How could you not

659
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: have that? You know, the last time that happened, to

660
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: think was nineteen eighty eight. So you're taking steps back there.

661
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: You look at the offensive line, those areas that lead

662
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: to head coaching, offensive line, tight end coach. You know,

663
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: people say what about the why you know, and I'll

664
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: say this, they're managing the room stop it. We know

665
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: that running back coach knows blocking assignments, he knows where

666
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: everything is run past, just like the QB. He has

667
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: to be a QB where protection is, where the slide protection,

668
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. That person is never considered

669
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: to be a OC or a head coach, even a

670
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach. But we know when you look at

671
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: the makeup of those coaches, they're managing the room. What

672
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: do those individual rooms look like from a running back position?

673
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: What do those rooms look like from a defense? Running

674
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: backs and wide receiver? No differently than the dB. You're

675
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: going to put people in the room to manage the

676
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: personalities in the room, not for career tracks. So we

677
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: still got a lot of things that we need to

678
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: tremendous progress. But we have a lot of areas, but

679
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: we got to call it out. You know, when we

680
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: talk about head coaching track, O line tight ends to

681
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: back coaches. So but the quarterbacks we've normalized that man

682
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: and that that'll that'll continue.

683
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. You had a similar career path

684
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: as myself, specifically your first Pro Bowl in ninety nine.

685
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: It was your eighth season. In other words, you didn't

686
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: get good to you was old.

687
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they missed so they missed out on three peanut.

688
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: Hey, that's why I said a year will you never

689
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: go on the first great season? Everybody knows that I

690
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: had like four great seasons. I believe it, trust me.

691
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: But any when it gets it, I get it.

692
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is as you got older,

693
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: you got better, or they just missed everything and you

694
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: was good the whole entire time.

695
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: I was good the whole entire time. I like that.

696
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: I well, I wasn't flamboyant.

697
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just played the game. You did it the

698
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: right way. This is a qui professional. As I said,

699
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I was a higher gun.

700
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: I was.

701
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I had some skills that was unique. But my best

702
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: years was year five through eight, no question on field,

703
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: on field performance, the way my body moved. When I

704
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: came over to Philly from Miami. My last year in

705
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Miami was my best, and then my first two years

706
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: in Philly I thought was my best. But I understood

707
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: who was in front of me, like Troy Rod, Woolston Rod,

708
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, Troy, Darryl Green, Darryl I get it. Back

709
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: then it was those three guys. They weren't going any

710
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: place until they were ready to move on. And I

711
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: never forget calling Prime, hey man, you really want to go,

712
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: like you really want to you really want to go

713
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: to And that was the following year he kind of

714
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: and guess what, fast forward, I made the call to

715
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: somebody else, Champ Bailly a Champ.

716
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: I was voted in you ready to go? Yeah, I'm

717
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: ready to go, And then.

718
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: That's that was that Does that make my first one?

719
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: I was the alternate and then I got in because

720
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: one of the other guys like, let the young boy go,

721
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 4: and then I went. And so you're right, it does.

722
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that the vets in the league understanding

723
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: that part of it, because the real guys know. But

724
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: now I'm not taking anything away. When you started getting

725
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: into like fifth and sixth and seven.

726
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean like alternate, oh my, oh my, Like I

727
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: remember my first and party Nickerson.

728
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: I walked in that room.

729
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: It was straight up we practicing, Hey, we want to

730
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: feel fifteen minutes, like ready to go, and he boom,

731
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: hitting everybody like headbutting everybody in a huddle like hey,

732
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: we gonna go.

733
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: I mean it was like.

734
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't no, We're gonna take it easy. Nope, we

735
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: hear we're gonna play.

736
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: Buckle up.

737
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm over in Hawaii, like I thought. Me and Nias

738
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: looking at each other like did he just yeah, man,

739
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: we gotta go.

740
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: And now it's so, what do you feel about because

741
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: up until this past Pro Bowl conversation, how do you

742
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: feel about the product and what it's done.

743
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: I actually want to give the NFL a lot of

744
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: props because the way the evolution has gone right, people

745
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: weren't tackling, so it didn't feel like football. So let's

746
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 4: not continue to watch this product where people are gonna

747
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: tune out, which they started to do.

748
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Now I feel like it's a check in the right direction.

749
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 4: Not because I'm a football purist so it's not football,

750
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 4: but like young people love what they're doing. Yes, like

751
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: my kids they just sat up and watching it. It

752
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: was so entertaining watching dodgeball, watching the questions and then

753
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks throw, like this whole team aspect that's still there.

754
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: Guys seem like they're having fun, they're competing. They had

755
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 4: their little sprint competition. My kids didn't want to change

756
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 4: the channel, and then all of a sudden I got it.

757
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: It is called reimagine being practical man.

758
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: The guys have a lot on the line. Now we're

759
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: asking a guy.

760
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: To come play a game, or we were, or the

761
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: way to set up was, this is a time to celebrate.

762
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: You celebrate the best eighty plus players in the world

763
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: in this sport. What are things that make you happy?

764
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: You have funs the dodgeballs, playing cards, to skial things.

765
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: They had a question there too, where you had to

766
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: see if you knew your best teammate.

767
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you say okay. Flag is a frankly,

768
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: it's a new sport for many, not for those who

769
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: are on the seven off seven because seven on seven

770
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: is flagged. For those who who've been around for decades

771
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: now they just say it's flag, but it's for many

772
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: of us it was seven on seven on seven. It's

773
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: a new sport. It allows us for to show people

774
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: helmets off. You see the personalities of the players, which

775
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: is outstanding. We don't have enough of that. That's the

776
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: one challenge that we have as a sport. We got this,

777
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: you got this gladiator equipment on, so no one gets

778
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: a chance to see Peanut. No one gets a chance

779
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: to see Roman. And when you oh, he looks he's

780
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: actually a handsome young man or he smiles a lot,

781
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: and you see the players with their families, and now

782
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: we have to keep reimagining. With that week, I think

783
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: that we have an opportunity to celebrate the young the

784
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: young student athletes, because right now all talks around in

785
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: nil and money, we forgot about the core of why

786
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: we do what we do. Ye man, we're still athletes.

787
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: We're student athletes. If you think the money thing is

788
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna make you happy, man, I'm telling you it's gonna

789
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like you're gonna hit a wall of

790
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: bricks here sometime shortly, you and the family members everyone

791
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: that you're carrying. But let's continue to encourage the young

792
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: men and women, the young student athletes, the quality of

793
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: an education. So to celebrate talking to the National Football Foundation,

794
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: hey would you consider doing like a Doak Walker Award.

795
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: I was with Jalen the Millroe and at the New

796
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: York Athletic Club celebrating, you know, his his accomplishment bringing

797
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: those kinds of things to the Pro Bowl.

798
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: So you have that.

799
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: Week long of celebration, like no one's talking about this

800
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: young man, academic All American quarterback you know, played in

801
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: you know multiple big Bowl games. This is what we

802
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: want our young people to see.

803
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: That would be awesome.

804
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: So just those are the kind of things that we're

805
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: just thinking about have honors during that time where it

806
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: just becomes a week long celebration of the young student athlete,

807
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: both boys and girls, men and women, the collegiate. So

808
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: just asking are there any of those celebrations that we

809
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: can pull into that week and make it a week

810
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: long celebration.

811
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 3: And then on Sat. Sunday like they did this week.

812
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 3: The kids love it. That's the audience.

813
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: No one's tuning into a three out there. You know,

814
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: they get enough of that during the regular season. Give

815
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: them something fun. They're staring their heroes, jumping a pile

816
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: of whatever, so pop line.

817
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids, they loved it. They were like crazy

818
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: all right.

819
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: Which I just wanted to make sure I told you

820
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: that that I like the product. I like who you

821
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: guys are reimagining this, and I love that you're going

822
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 4: to bring in college people too, because then that allows

823
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: college players to be celebrated and then theirselfs being celebrated.

824
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: For the right thing.

825
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: Yes, and we ain't talking about none of the stuff

826
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: that people hate talking about, which is nil which nobody

827
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 4: really understands.

828
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Also, what that platform does allows us to show the

829
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: reach of our game, like the international players coming over

830
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: and watching the young boys and girls like compete participate

831
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: from Panama in Canada, in Mexico. I saw Japan. I'm

832
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: looking at. I was looking at. I went to their

833
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: tournament and I'm saying, Okay, they got some they got

834
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: some philosophy here, some layers like this you. I don't

835
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: know if they were thirteen or fourteen year olds, but

836
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: they were doing some some schematics like oh that's hot now,

837
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, not two people in one spot.

838
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 3: They had some decoy stuff coming out.

839
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, that's but it gives a chance

840
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: to showcase our game globally.

841
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: Didn't they beat us in a game like the adults?

842
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, like Mexican, Yeah, okay, especially with

843
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: LA twenty Olympics.

844
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

845
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: Are you ready to play this game? It's called the

846
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: Troy Vincent Replay game.

847
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: Ready. He just freestyleed that too, He just make it up.

848
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: I'm ready? How are you ready? I'm ready?

849
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: All right?

850
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: Do I have timeouts? No? You do not have timeouts?

851
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: And there's no replay. Got about ten seconds to answer right,

852
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: because we're on the clock.

853
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna ask you three questions to see

854
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: if you remember, and it's about your playing career, which

855
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: you don't keep any memorabilia around either, so I'm really

856
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: interested to.

857
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: See if you get this right. All right, do you remember.

858
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: The six players that were drafted in front of you?

859
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: Troy Benson was drafted number seven overall in nineteen ninety two,

860
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: Steve Adman number one correct, Quentin Corriott number two correct,

861
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 4: Desmond Howard number four correct, Terrell Buckley number five.

862
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: Correct, and.

863
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: I can't remember them.

864
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: Ten Tecns are up, David Klingler, David Klanler quarterback, and.

865
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: Sean Gilbert defensive tack So I should have it.

866
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: I should have got that.

867
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Well, I should have knew because I gave up that.

868
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: So that night before the draft, the Rams they came

869
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: to me to be the third pick. Okay, they were

870
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: doing a lot of pre draft deals at that time,

871
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: so Indianapolis wasn't sure if they wanted to take the

872
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: D tackle in the dB or D tackle in a linebacker.

873
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: They ended up going with Quinton and the big fella.

874
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: So they called me at the hotel. I'm in New

875
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: York at the Hotel of Draft because I was always

876
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: projected one through five the latest. And when they called me,

877
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: those two had already signed four year deals and they

878
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: offered me a five year deal. But the way they

879
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: positioned it was, you don't want to be the third

880
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. And then I want to ask

881
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: them the terms. It was a year over more than

882
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: what the first two. That mean I was going to

883
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: hurt everybody else behind me. I didn't have an agent,

884
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: it was just me and my grandparents. So I was

885
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: in the hotel like, I don't want to hurt nobody

886
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: behind me. But if I signed this, accept this. And

887
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: they said, well, we're gonna call Sean Gilbert. He was

888
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: that pit because Shawn gonna be there. I said, well,

889
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: if you want to be the third pick, that's fine.

890
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: I just wherever I go, wherever I go. So I

891
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: should have knew that Sean Gilbert third. Another great story.

892
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: All right, you ready number two quarterbacks? Do you remember

893
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you got your first career interception on,

894
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Jeff George? Yeah, okay, do you know if you had

895
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: any return yards?

896
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: No? I think I fell Lewis. I think Louis.

897
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Oliver, you got some return yards.

898
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought I failed because I was so happy that

899
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: the ball was actually in my hand. I got my

900
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: first I thought I caught the ball and then and

901
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: then filled you took it back thirtyou thirty two yards okay,

902
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: and then got tackled.

903
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: Okay, But it was Jeff George correct. It was Jeff

904
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: George correct.

905
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: All right.

906
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: You have sacked five quarterbacks in your NFL career.

907
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: Do you remember who they were?

908
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: No?

909
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: I do this, yes, not all.

910
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: But the one that I just think about the most

911
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: because I see him every Sunday is Troy Aikman.

912
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: Was that just Philly in Dallas? Okay?

913
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: We don't really see ey eye and a lot of

914
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: different things. And when sometimes I hear them just on

915
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Saturday talk or Sunday games, just it still comes back

916
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: to you.

917
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: Gotta let them know. Just comes back to me.

918
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: It comes back to me.

919
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: So yes, and then Troy, and I do remember sacking

920
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Rams from the Greatest Show on Turf. No, No, no,

921
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not hurt.

922
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that you made that up. No, I thought we

923
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: were just back a week.

924
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: You drint that.

925
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: Gott.

926
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: I thought I got Curt Okay, but it was only

927
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't have many sacks.

928
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: I didn't. They didn't blitz me often me either. Here

929
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: we go, you ready, who was it? I'll help you out.

930
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: Trent Dilfert, Tampa nine season and ninety nine, Kerry Collins

931
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: two thousands season, Ryan Leaf oh one season Chargers.

932
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean who else did you play for?

933
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just I'm just okay, okay. And you got

934
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: him one and a half times, okay, all right? And

935
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: then Luke mcow oh four?

936
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Who is Luke playing for?

937
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Who's he playing for? Thomas in the corner. Gotta look

938
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: that up for us. I'm glad to check it. Check

939
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: the numbers on that one. But yeah, you got him,

940
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 4: know four Luke? Okay, see, thank you for that. Yeah,

941
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: we actually taught you something. Yes, it's normally doesn't happen

942
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 4: when you come in a ton. You got most sacks

943
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: and me I only got three.

944
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know that either. I didn't blitz that.

945
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: Five five and a half.

946
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: He played for the Browns, Okay, I know that.

947
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, see you go, I sacked somebody from sting from

948
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: from from from the Rams.

949
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: But this is totally this has to be preseason.

950
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you.

951
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you're gonna go back and make preseason status.

952
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: That's that game. You're not it. Well, Troy Man, thank you.

953
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: I want to thank you all.

954
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I really enjoy listening to you all shared the game

955
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: and when I was asking earlier about just how are

956
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: we doing? Because you all talk about ball, You talk

957
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: about what people are doing, but you you keep the

958
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: main thing to you go back to ball, and that's

959
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: so important. And it's always great to see my colleagues

960
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: do well. You're all extremely professional. Business is business, but

961
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: you do a hell of a job just honoring and

962
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: celebrating your colleagues. So I just thank you all for

963
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: what you do.

964
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: I appreciate that man too, he called those colleagues even

965
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 4: though I was on Troy's level, appreciate.

966
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: I like that colleague. We represented the game together well.

967
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: Before we get out of here, what is the one

968
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: simple statement I can give to all the Kansas City

969
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: referee haters out there, like my wife, so I can,

970
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: like without just hitting it with the numbers, because not

971
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: everybody wants to hear the numbers.

972
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 3: Joy Like. They don't want that. They don't want it

973
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: to make sense. Losers talk, that's loser talk. That's what

974
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: he said.

975
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: That's losers talk. There's no referee or officiating favoritism towards

976
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: towards the chief chiefs. Is when someone's beating you so consistently,

977
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: that is that's where you will go. That's where people

978
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: will go, is you look for a reason of a

979
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: reason to point to why you lost. And that's every

980
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: team they've beat. I get it on Monday morning from

981
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: the coach to GM and then some time whether that's

982
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: the club, that that that club owner. Yeah, something, you

983
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: lost the game. We lost the game because of this

984
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: particular call or this call. No, you lost the game

985
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: because you had X amount of X, Y and Z.

986
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: You couldn't stay on sides. So that's what I was

987
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: just saying that. It just I got it. Just that's

988
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: that Drake talk. Yeah, it sounded like, Drake, just take that.

989
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: You're taking ls.

990
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: This is my last thing because last time last year

991
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: we talked at the Super Bowl, Taylor Swift was a

992
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: big deal and you were.

993
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I don't even really know.

994
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: And then remember he talked about you didn't really not

995
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: remember it, and I would be honest, the NFL is

996
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: not She hasn't shown up on the TV screens as much,

997
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: and so is that for any particular reason or you

998
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: don't I don't.

999
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1000
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't control the broadcast trucks and where their cameras go.

1001
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: But when I spoke to you all last year, I

1002
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: was one D transparent.

1003
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1004
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: It irritated me earlier on in the year, Yeah, because

1005
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I get I get a camera

1006
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: count of Okay, how many cameras I got on a

1007
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: head coach, how many cameras I got on a white hat?

1008
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: How many cameras I got on the QB. And I'm

1009
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: looking why we keep going there? And I'm saying, commissioner

1010
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: out there? So you see the box you know that

1011
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: the camera go to it. I'm like, commissioner out there,

1012
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: the president is out there?

1013
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 3: Who's this?

1014
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: And doing one of the timeouts one of the breaks,

1015
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: one of my colleagues.

1016
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: Was like, that's like, that's Taylor Swift.

1017
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: I was like, who is Taylor Swift? And they looked

1018
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: at me like you cannot be There's no way you

1019
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: just said that.

1020
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: That's what I said to you. Like literally, I'm like,

1021
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: who is she?

1022
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: She's what is she saying? Country? Like, what is she saying?

1023
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: And they was like, no, she's a star. Then I

1024
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: doubled down and did something. I was like like me,

1025
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: I'll say You're like yeah, like I'm trying to make

1026
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: a correlation. I'm seriously, I'm right in between the break.

1027
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: I got four minutes, but I can tell my colleagues

1028
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: didn't want me to say more in the room because

1029
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, why we keep putting the camera there, Like,

1030
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: what's they're trying to say?

1031
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: If people are they were trying to save they were

1032
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: trying to save you.

1033
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: It was like, yo, that's Taylor sweat. Okay, okay, Troy

1034
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: appreciates you coming on the poet us out of here,

1035
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: Peanut time.

1036
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: I appreciate you were good.

1037
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: Uh sure like subscribe, follow, iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts.

1038
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: Check us out NFL YouTube channel.

1039
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the new one. It's the new one. Tell

1040
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: a friend and tell a friend of what. Tell a

1041
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: friend baby, Hey, I'm peanut, that's wrong. That's Troy. This

1042
00:54:37,239 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: is the NFL Player's second Acts podcast. We out the

1043
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: don there back the back about the b