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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Get Ready becaus Ira, Come

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Speaker 1: guys who will call the game on TV for Fox

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Speaker 1: this Sunday, former Dallas Cowboys Pro Bowl fullback Darryl Johnston.

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Speaker 1: My one on one player interview this week is with

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Speaker 1: one of the Bengals highest graded players so far this

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Speaker 1: Dave Lapham joins me to discuss the latest Bengals news

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Speaker 1: and answer some questions you submitted via Twitter. And finally,

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Speaker 1: it's our noa Fox segment as we discuss why the

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Speaker 1: for lovers of the original Fab four. Now time to

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Speaker 1: go from the Beatles to the Bengals, beginning with one

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Speaker 1: of the guys who will call this week's game in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: He was the best fullback of his era and he'll

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Speaker 1: Cowboys great Darryl Moose Johnston, Darryl, you had the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in Week one, that overtime victory against the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: What stood out about Cincinnati when you called that game.

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Speaker 1: Really the big thing for me was the resiliency you

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Speaker 1: know through that game. You know, a team that's that's

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Speaker 1: there's expectations coming in and then you get into a

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Speaker 1: see if you've taken that next step. You know, how

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Speaker 1: quickly has that talent that we assembled in the off

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Speaker 1: and two. They're on a pace to go ten and seven.

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Speaker 1: If the season ended today, they would be the AFC's

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Speaker 1: fifth seed in the playoffs. The Browns and Chiefs would

431
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Speaker 1: be out. Schedule is obviously a huge factor so far.

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Speaker 1: I wish the season did end today if that were

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Speaker 1: the case. But here's the interesting part to me, They've

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Speaker 1: got a winning record despite a below average offense. Joe

435
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Speaker 1: Burrow is seventh and passer rating. Jamar Chase is seventh

436
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Speaker 1: and receiving yards. Joe Mixon is fifth and rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: But they haven't scored more than twenty four in regulation yet.

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Speaker 1: What are a few things you would like to see

439
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Speaker 1: them do better or differently? A lot more consistency, obviously,

440
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Speaker 1: you know they're they're streaky. You know they're they're up

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Speaker 1: and down. They've only scored twenty eight points in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter. All of them have come in the final

443
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Speaker 1: two minutes of the second quarter. They've only scored fourteen

444
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Speaker 1: points in the first quarter. So that's that's a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of time over five games, first quarter and up to

446
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Speaker 1: the final two minutes of the second quarter, where you've

447
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: scored fourteen points. They scored twenty eight points in the

448
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Speaker 1: finals two minutes. That's great, that's tied for second best

449
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But man, you can't make a living

450
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Speaker 1: doing that. You know. A good example is, uh, you

451
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Speaker 1: know this this past football game against a good Green

452
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Speaker 1: Bay Packer team. Six possessions in the first half, four

453
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Speaker 1: three and outs, and then two touchdowns. So it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like all or nothing. It's like peaks and valleys,

455
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Speaker 1: highs and lows. It's it's the graph isn't isn't very

456
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Speaker 1: very you know, even and consistent. So I think consistency

457
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Speaker 1: is probably the biggest thing in almost every position group level.

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Speaker 1: And if if the consistency improves up front, I think

459
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Speaker 1: it'll have a big trickle down effect. And for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: the level of play, uh, you know, when you when

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Speaker 1: you look at how they played against Pittsburgh and how

462
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Speaker 1: they played against Jacksonville, and the offensive line it was

463
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Speaker 1: they only have a one sack and eight quarters. Green

464
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Speaker 1: Bay for whatever reason, gave them trouble. They just as

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Speaker 1: as a group offensively, the offensive line had issues, given

466
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Speaker 1: up edge, everybody got on a shoulder on an edge

467
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Speaker 1: and just caused all kinds of grief, all kinds of issues.

468
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Speaker 1: So that that's that's going to pick up And um,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see, you know, I get I guess,

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Speaker 1: more consistent performance in the running game and then there

471
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Speaker 1: be might be more of a commitment to the running game.

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Speaker 1: If there's more consistency in the running game, they're going

473
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Speaker 1: to have to particularly as you get into the second

474
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Speaker 1: half of the season where the schedule does get tougher,

475
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Speaker 1: they're going to have to be a lot more effective,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, established in some kind of monicum of a

477
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Speaker 1: ground game. What was green Bay's blueprint defensively last week?

478
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Speaker 1: And is that what the Bengals are likely to see

479
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Speaker 1: going forward until they have more success against it? Yeah,

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00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: that's that's you wonder. Um, you know, teams around the

481
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Speaker 1: National Football League or copycats and if they see something,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, there's the blueprint, there's there's how you stop there,

483
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Speaker 1: there's how you stop that. Some teams modify their the

484
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Speaker 1: way they do something based on success they saw, and

485
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Speaker 1: they'll study three games very closely, the prior three games,

486
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Speaker 1: and if they see some kind of trend or something

487
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Speaker 1: that has worked on a consistent basis, they'll modify their

488
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Speaker 1: stuff a little bit to copycat that. A lot of

489
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Speaker 1: times teams they won't wholesale change it. I mean, they've

490
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Speaker 1: established an identity. They're not going to say, oh, because

491
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Speaker 1: we're playing the Cincinnati Bengals, we're going to do this

492
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Speaker 1: when we never done it before. But they were going

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Speaker 1: to be there'll probably be some modifications. And really, what

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Speaker 1: the what the green Bay Packers decided to do as

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Speaker 1: they played, They didn't have a very full box. They

496
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Speaker 1: had two safeties deep a high percent, or two safeties

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Speaker 1: out of the box a high percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they were deeper than other times, and they would

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Speaker 1: come down quickly as soon as they saw that the

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Speaker 1: ball was going underneath, you know, short intermediate routes. They

501
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Speaker 1: wouldn't just hang back there. They'd come down and rally

502
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Speaker 1: up and make players on the football. So when it's

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Speaker 1: it's simply count in the box. I mean, if it

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Speaker 1: looks like you have a light box, you're gonna be

505
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Speaker 1: able to run against that and make them commit, um,

506
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Speaker 1: you know, start to bring somebody down into the box

507
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Speaker 1: and have have you know, have have some opportunities in

508
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Speaker 1: the middle of the football field. Plus they decided to

509
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Speaker 1: double Tyler Boyd. They took him away. They said, you know,

510
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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna basically crowd the middle of the

511
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Speaker 1: football field with bodies. We're taking away the middle of

512
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Speaker 1: the football field from an opportunity standpoint, and that makes

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Speaker 1: the quarterback make longer throws. You know, the balls in

514
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Speaker 1: the air longer. If you're thrown from the left hash mark,

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Speaker 1: you can't even there's really nothing in the middle of

516
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Speaker 1: the football field over that right side. That ball's in

517
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Speaker 1: the air a while, so you know it's a it's

518
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Speaker 1: a sound um, a sound scheme. If you've they had

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Speaker 1: confidence he went out their best corner. They had confidence

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Speaker 1: that they can you know, stand up to it on

521
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Speaker 1: the outside because they they they doubled Tyler Boyd. Uh

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Speaker 1: that they also, I mean the guy that was left

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Speaker 1: and one on one was Higgins. They double Boyd. They

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Speaker 1: double Chase quite a bit as he started to make plays.

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Speaker 1: And then Higgins had the most one on one coverage

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Speaker 1: and you know he didn't make as many plays as

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Speaker 1: he could have made. He admitts to you know, some

528
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Speaker 1: big couple of big drops that were problematic. Whoever it is,

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Speaker 1: whoever they decide to leave in single man coverage, you

530
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Speaker 1: know they can move around who they're going to double.

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Speaker 1: If Tyler Boyd, for every reasons, left in single coverage

532
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Speaker 1: in the slot, he's going to have a feast. He's

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Speaker 1: going to just make them pay a big time. And

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Speaker 1: whatever outside receiver faces single coverage, he's got to win

535
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Speaker 1: a high percentage of time. Not just half the time,

536
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Speaker 1: you have to win three quarters or more of the

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Speaker 1: time in your one on one coverage. And so the

538
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Speaker 1: quarterback then has confidence to go to you. We are

539
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Speaker 1: recording this on a Wednesday. As of today, Jackson Carmen

540
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Speaker 1: is on the COVID list. Xavier Sophila started the first

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Speaker 1: two games of the year at right guard. He's out

542
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Speaker 1: with a knee injury. Carmen started the next three at

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Speaker 1: right guard. He's possibly out due to COVID nineteen. Up

544
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Speaker 1: next rookie Deante Smith. He started thirty games at ECU

545
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Speaker 1: twenty nine at left tackle, one at left guard. How

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Speaker 1: should we feel about the possibility of him making his

547
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Speaker 1: first NFL start at right guard this week? Yeah, that's

548
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: that's going to be an interesting thing to watch. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, he played more left guard even in training

550
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Speaker 1: camp than he did right because of Sueflo and you know,

551
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Speaker 1: the high draft pick Jackson Carmen playing that right guard position.

552
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: But Frank Pollock does move everybody around. I mean, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: it's a it's an equal opportunity scenario for Frank Pollock

554
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Speaker 1: with with respect to position versatility, it is interesting. The

555
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Speaker 1: right guard position is the only one that's been musical

556
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: chairs the others everybody started every played every snap basically

557
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Speaker 1: at left tackle, left guard, center and right tackle. Right

558
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: guards the place right guards the it's that's that's got

559
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: the black cloud over it or whatever for whatever reason.

560
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Speaker 1: The good news is just like with Jackson Carmen, he's

561
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Speaker 1: got Hopkins on one side and Riley Reef on the other.

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Speaker 1: So I think that gives you a sense of come

563
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Speaker 1: for when it's your first NFL start at a position

564
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Speaker 1: that you haven't played a whole heck of a lot,

565
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: but you understand, you know the techniques at the at

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Speaker 1: the guard position. Haven't played some left guard and haven't

567
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Speaker 1: played quite a bit of guard actually, you know, through

568
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Speaker 1: preseason game, preseason preseason games and training camp and and

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Speaker 1: so hopefully he's he's ready, he's up to the task.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he'll mentally be ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and I think the two veterans will help him, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it how it pans out. I'm I'm

573
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Speaker 1: glad he's not going against you know, some Pro Bowl,

574
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, Cameron Hayward type that would be, oh my gosh,

575
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL. Son. You know, maybe he can

576
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: he can break in a little bit and knee's into it.

577
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Although I think the strength of the Detroit Lions defense

578
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: and maybe of their football team, one of the strengths

579
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: is is how how hard their defensive line plays. So

580
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: he's certainly not going to have any kind of picnic.

581
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a challenge a day at the

582
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: It's going to be a grind a day. You will

583
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: never hear me get snarky about NFL players with injury problems.

584
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I respect all of you guys who are willing to

585
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: jeopardize your long term health by playing this game. So

586
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of my prelude to Trey Waynes, who unfortunately

587
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: has had horrible luck when it comes to injuries and

588
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: signing his big contract with the Bengals. How big is

589
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: this loss at that position? I think it's big, you know.

590
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: I think that they were feeling pretty good about having,

591
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, two guys that can play the corner position,

592
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: that are both long and athletic and can flip their

593
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: hips and aren't afraid to tackle people, you know, in

594
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Speaker 1: Waynes and Cheeto, and they don't have Waynes, and you

595
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: just you just start to wonder, It's like, all right,

596
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: some guys are just tighter muscle wise, the attachments or

597
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, because you end up having

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00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: a pectoral injury just lifting waste and then both your

599
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: hamstring start to give you problems. It's like, man, some

600
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: guys physiologically you're just you know, put together a little

601
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: bit differently, and you think we'll just continue to stretch,

602
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: do yoga, do whatever, you know, work on your flexibility.

603
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing all of that. I'm sure I

604
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: saw him with the bands you know that you use

605
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: to use negative resistance and all that, and stretching and

606
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: trying to strengthen you know, quad's hamstrings, all that sort of.

607
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: He's religiously and diligently using those things at training camp.

608
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: It's just and sometimes guys get in a situation where

609
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: that's the way there their structured. And I talked about

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: this before Paul Brown with Isaac Curtis. He was like, look,

611
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to keep your hamstrings loose,

612
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you need to hop out of a

613
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: drill and stretch for ten minutes, do it. So you know,

614
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Speaker 1: I understand you have world class speed and you're you're

615
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Speaker 1: cut high. You know, you get those long legs, those

616
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Speaker 1: long hamstrings, and you're a high wasted guy and that

617
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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna make sure you're right with that

618
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Speaker 1: world class speed. So yeah, everybody's different in that regard.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, you know, there was never any

620
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Speaker 1: tag on him on anything like that when he came

621
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Speaker 1: down from Minnesota. You know, it's like he hadn't had

622
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Speaker 1: these issues. Now all of a sudden, every muscle in

623
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Speaker 1: his body seems to be really tight and he's pulling

624
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Speaker 1: him or a ripping him or tearing him. Took a

625
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Speaker 1: look at some Pro Football Focus grades earlier today. Here

626
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: are the highest rated players on the roster relative to

627
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Speaker 1: their position group on offense and defense. Joe Mixon number

628
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Speaker 1: four among NFL running backs. DJ Reader number six among

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Speaker 1: interior defensive linemen. When it comes to Reader, his job

630
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Speaker 1: doesn't come with gaudy's statistics. Do you consider him one

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Speaker 1: of the best defensive tackles in the NFL? Is what

632
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: he is told to do and what his assignment is

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Speaker 1: to do. He does his job. You know here coaches

634
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Speaker 1: all the time, just do your job, don't try to

635
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: be a hero, don't try to do too much. Do

636
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Speaker 1: your job, and then other people around you will be

637
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: able to do their job. And that's DJ Reader. It's

638
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: not going to show up necessarily in a bunch of statistics.

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of tackles, assists and all that

640
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: sort of thing. But if they kept a stat on

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Speaker 1: successful double team consumption, you know, he'd be right up there.

642
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: And Logan Wilson's tied for ninth in the NFL in

643
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: terms of total tackles because of DJ Reader or a

644
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: big part of it is DJ Reader allowing him to

645
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: be untouched and come downhill and quick, quick diagnosis, go

646
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: down and explode, blow it up. Um, So it's it.

647
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Does you know the glove has to fit the hand,

648
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: as OJ said, you know, I mean it's one of

649
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: those kind of one of those kind of deals there.

650
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: So I think I think he is playing at a

651
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: very very high level, and I thought he got shafted

652
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: as I looked at the game again. On the third

653
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: and one, when they stopped Dylan and Uh on the

654
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: he DJ basically threw a leg up up there and

655
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: and trying he was trying frantically to just throw something

656
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: up up there in that area as part of the

657
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: stop in the play, and he could call for tripping,

658
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: which you could see why the referee called that, but

659
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: he missed the hold in the throw down. I mean,

660
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman tackled him through to the ground. And

661
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: DJ's at that point just you know, trying to get

662
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: something done. So when you only see the end of

663
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: the plane you make the call, that can be really frustrating.

664
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure he was really when he got up

665
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: and he was so vociferous about the call, I thought, Tea,

666
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, he really did that. But then when I

667
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: saw the whole thing, I'm like, oh, no, wonder. I mean,

668
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: he's going he's going nuts because what about the holding

669
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: penalty that occurred. You know, you didn't see, you didn't

670
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: see the whole thing, and you know, in his mind

671
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: it should have been an offset if worst case scenario,

672
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: but it cost his football team big time. Instead of

673
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: putting away the Green Bay Packers, you know, continue to

674
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: drive and get points out of it. Lap, let's spend

675
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on the lines before we get

676
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: to some questions from Twitter followers. They're on five, they're

677
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: in rebuilding mode. What are the big concerns for the

678
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Bengals in this game? I think the big concerns. Don't

679
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: take it for granted. You know, they've they've been in

680
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: a lot of football games. They they're gonna play hard.

681
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Their head coach is very emotional, you saw him be

682
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: very vulnerable after the loss they just they suffered to

683
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings nineteen to seventeen. They lost to the

684
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Ravens nineteen to seventeen on a historic sixty six yard

685
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: field goal that shouldn't have even happened because there was

686
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: a you know, the clock expired. It should have been

687
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: a seventy one yard attempt. And then Minnesota beat him

688
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: at the down as well. So they've they've been in,

689
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, just about every football game. They've lost two

690
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: road games in the division, lost to the Bears by

691
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: ten and the Green Bay Packers by double digit figures

692
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: as well eight point lost to San Francisco. I mean,

693
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Speaker 1: it's not like they've been destroyed. They were in those

694
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: football games for a good period of time. You Know.

695
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: The thing the Bengals have to do is we talked

696
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: about earlier how they haven't come out out of the gate.

697
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Well yet they have to do do in this football game

698
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: because if they don't, the Detroit Lions are going to

699
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: have the feeling this is the week, you know, looks

700
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: like we might be able to get this done here.

701
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to squash that any any hope of

702
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: that you know to just jump on them with both

703
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: feet right away and say it's not going to be

704
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: this week, and guy's gear up for next week because

705
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: it's not happening today. And you know, I think I

706
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: think the way you've got to do that is defensively.

707
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: They the Lions utilize their running back in their tight

708
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: end pretty exclusively. They're leading receivers by a good margin

709
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of yards after catch, yards after contact.

710
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Tackling is going to be a big deal in the

711
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: football game. You can't leave your teammate out there one

712
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: on one. You're gonna have to get you know, run

713
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: to the football gang, tackle, leverage properly, you know, all

714
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: those kind of things. If you're having trouble in the

715
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: secondary with communication like you had against the Green Bay Packers, simplify.

716
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Paul Brown used to say, I thought you guys understood.

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I thought you guys could grasp all this. Obviously you've

718
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: shown me you can't. We're gonna shrink it down to

719
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: these couple of things, and if you show me you

720
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: can handle these, we'll add another one and we'll add

721
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: another one. But we're not going to do all this,

722
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, five different things. If you can't handle them

723
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: so and that always worked. You know, you think it's

724
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: too simple. If you're doing it right, I mean, you're

725
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be better off than trying to get

726
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: too cute and not do it right at all. That's

727
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's self defeating, there's no question about it.

728
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: So I think I think that's going to be a

729
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: big factor. I think third down is going to be

730
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: a big factor. I was looking at third down Dan.

731
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: The Lions are fifteen of forty nine, I mean, their

732
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: second in the NFL thirty point six percent, but they

733
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: haven't been in third down very much. I guess teams

734
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: would beating them on first and second down. That's what

735
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: the Bengals should be thinking about doing, because you look

736
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: at the Bengals numbers, they're thirty one of seventy three

737
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to fifteen to forty nine. The Bengals been

738
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: in third down a ton offensively, third and short of time,

739
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: but I mean third down defensively a ton, and uh,

740
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: they're allowing over forty two percent, eighteenth in the league.

741
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think third down is going to

742
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: be a big deal. Um, you know, I think that's

743
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a factor in the football game. And uh,

744
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think, like I said, you

745
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: just can't. You can't let a trap game occur. I

746
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing. The mindset has to be right.

747
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: You can't let a tough loss against the Green Bay

748
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Packers turn into you know, a two game losing streak

749
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: or god forbid of three or four game losing streak.

750
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: You have to nip it in the bud and just rebound,

751
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: compartmentalized and roll. All right, I shine the ask lap

752
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: signal into the Twitter sky. Here are a few questions

753
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: from Twitter followers. We start with Pete, what's the problem

754
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: with the screen game, specifically running back screens. I feel

755
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: like we have the players to be successful, but they

756
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: seem to get blown up every time. Yeah, you know,

757
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: that's something that Detroit does exceptionally well. They'll screen to

758
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: their running back, they'll screen to their tight end Hawkinson,

759
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: they'll screen to receivers. They've run every screen known to man.

760
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: So that's a key. Another key in this football game.

761
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Handle the screen game. And I'd like to see the

762
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: Bengals be the best screen team in this football game

763
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: as well, because it's a screen game. Is a very

764
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: good weapon because it's a completion for the quarterback. He

765
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: sees the throw being caught, and you know, the whoever

766
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: the screen receivers is in space, hopefully with blockers to

767
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, just get some yards after catch, yards after contact.

768
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: The screen game. I believe in the screen game, particularly

769
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: if you're having trouble with pressure, a big way to

770
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: skill to slow it down as a screen game and draws,

771
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: draws and screens. That goes back to you know, Pop

772
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Warner football. So yeah, it's just they have to be

773
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: better with their execution. You know, get out in a

774
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: timely fashion if you if you don't, you know, thousand

775
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: and one, thousand and two, release, get out in front

776
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: of the screen. If if that gets buggered up somehow,

777
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: you know you're out there with free runners at your

778
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: at your receiver of the football, whoever that may be.

779
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: It's just just like any other play. It has to

780
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: be well coordinated, time to write, executed properly. And Detroit's

781
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: done a much better job of it, I think to

782
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: this point than the Bengals have. I'd like to see

783
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: that trend reverse this week. Dustin writes the following, it

784
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: looks like the pass rush win rate is among the

785
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: lowest in the league. Does that align with what you're

786
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: seeing and is it a concern long term? I looked

787
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: it up. That's an ESPN stat They have the Bengals

788
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: number twenty eight in the NFL and pass rush win rate,

789
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: even though the Bengals have a respectable sack total of fourteen. Yeah,

790
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, you know, because I like the pass

791
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: rush win rate. I think can be subjective. I think,

792
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, sacks obviously they're either on the ground or

793
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: or not. I do like sacks per pass attempt. Sometimes

794
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: raw sacks don't really show because you know, you look

795
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: at it. The Detroit Lions again, for example, have eleven sacks,

796
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: that's tied for thirteenth in the NFL. Their sack per

797
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: pass attempt is six though, because you know the opposition

798
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: they've only thrown the ball one hundred and thirty five

799
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: times and they've got eleven sacks, whereas you know, on

800
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: the Bengal side of it, the Bengals have on the

801
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: year have thirteen sacks, which is tied from ninth in

802
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, but their their sack per pass attempt is

803
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: that is thirteenth in the league. Because the opposition is

804
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: throwing one hundred and ninety five times. So it's it's

805
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: the ratio how many times you're getting them on the

806
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: ground as opposed to how many times they're putting the

807
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: ball in the air. Do I think that the pass

808
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: rush has been inconsistent as well? Yes? I do. I

809
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: mean I think there have been there have been games

810
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: where the pass rush has been a significant factor on

811
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: a on a very high percentage of snaps. In this

812
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: football game against the Green Bay Packers, I should say

813
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: the last football game they had against the Packers, you

814
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: had an unusual guy in that his first move is

815
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: to retreat. He'll he'll back up. He'll back up as

816
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: much as ten yards because of his arm strength. He

817
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: didn't care. You don't care about adding that distance. U.

818
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: He's he's a little bit of a nightmare to have

819
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: your win pass rush rate be that high and that effective.

820
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: But in my mind, if if I don't know how

821
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: it's subjective, how however they do the grading. If in

822
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: my mind, if a guy is beaten uh in less

823
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: than three seconds, that was a that was a win

824
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: pass rush rate by the defensive lineman. Even if you

825
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: didn't get the quarterback off the spot. If you got

826
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback off the spot, that's that's an obvious one.

827
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean Ken the pass rush win rate improve.

828
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, just like everything else in this defensive football team.

829
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: This question comes from Tom. What are your thoughts on

830
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: Trey Hopkins. It seems he's playing poorly. Is it physical

831
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: limitations after his knee injury or reps needed to get

832
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: him in a groove? Yeah, I mean I think I think, um,

833
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, physically and like you said, uh, after certain

834
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: that's all related. I mean you have to remember this guy,

835
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: um had an ACL reconstruction. He tore it in January.

836
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow played ten games. Trey Hawkins played all the games,

837
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: he played sixteen and he had it done in January.

838
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: Joe had it done in October. Um December for Joe

839
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: for the surgery. December surgery, and so Treys was, you know,

840
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: like a full month later. Um, So you know, if

841
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: that four weeks is a is a big deal. Um,

842
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, and and look at it, looking at it,

843
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: everybody's concerned. You know. Joe gets some pile. Joe gets this,

844
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: gets that. I can tell you as an offensive lineman,

845
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: you're there's so much pressure, leverage, pounding that goes on

846
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: your legs, and then you're in cotton piles. You might

847
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: be caught awkwardly in piles. And for him to be

848
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: doing what he's doing is really remarkable. I think. I mean,

849
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I took my cap to the guy. Now. Is he

850
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: playing like he played before where he had the ACL reconstruction? Now?

851
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Can he play like he played after the ACL reconstruction? Yeah?

852
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: And I do think repetition he's had. He's had his

853
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: down games and he's rebounded and had better games. He's

854
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: up and down from a consistency factor as well, and

855
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: I think the more reps he gets, the better he's

856
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: going to be. But I just I have nothing but

857
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: plotteds for him for doing what he's doing. You know,

858
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: he's he's he's a heck of a teammate. He'll sacrifice

859
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: everything he needs to sacrifice for the betterment of the

860
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: football team. And I'll take all the Trey Hopkins I

861
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: can get. This question comes from Eric and has to

862
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: do with the other team's center. How significant is the

863
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: loss of Frank Ragnow for Detroit? I think it's big.

864
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Frank Ragnow is the guy that I was hoping would

865
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: come here to Cincinnati, and he picked before he goes

866
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: to Detroit, and he's he made the Pro Bowl. He's

867
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. He's he's long, strong, he's a

868
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: very good player. So yeah, that toe injury is definitely

869
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: a factor. But I will say the Green Bay Packers

870
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: had a patchwork offensive line, and I thought that they

871
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: performed very admirably, definitely well enough to win the football games.

872
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Since they won it. They executed the techniques that the

873
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: offensive line coach wanted them to execute the way he

874
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: wanted them to execute them, and the old line coach

875
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: and the players were on the same page, and they

876
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: played well. That offensive line as a unit played well.

877
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not going to sleep on anybody,

878
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: anybody's backup players because if you're if you're on a

879
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: roster in the National Football League, you're good enough to play.

880
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: And players that aren't starting are waiting for an opportunity

881
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: to show they belong. So don't take anything for granted,

882
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: Brad asks. Should we be concerned with a number of

883
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: snaps the defense has played through five games. I think

884
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: that's a I think that's a legitimate concern. There's no

885
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: doubt about it. You know, I think that's four three

886
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: and outs in six possessions in the first half. If

887
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: you're a defensive player, that it's like you kidding me.

888
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we barely have time over here to make

889
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: adjustments on the greef board between series. You know, it's like, oh, no,

890
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: forget it, we'll talk about it the next get get up,

891
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: get ready. They're putting the football. Oh my gosh. Again

892
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: that that that complimentary football is huge and they're not

893
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: playing good enough complimentary football yet. And I totally totally

894
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: agree with that. That the defense has to take pressure

895
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: off the offense and limit their number of snaps. I mean,

896
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: the offense has to take pressure off the defense limiting

897
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: the number of snaps there. I think when you consider

898
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: all of that, I think that makes the defense performance

899
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: even that much more remarkable. You know, I think that

900
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: they're for them to have enough gas in the tank

901
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: to make stops they make at the end of football games,

902
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I think is admirable to say the least, you know,

903
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: and they have they have a never say die attitude.

904
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: That defense is a extremely resilient on an individual player

905
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: basis and collectively as a football team. They're not gonna

906
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: They're not gonna quit on you. Nine times the Green

907
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Bay Packers had the ball inside the Bengals forty yard line,

908
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: they scored two touchdowns. Are you kidding me? Aaron Rodgers

909
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: twenty two points? If you hold him to twenty two

910
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: points in a game, I'm gonna win that football game regular,

911
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, in the regulation time twenty five points with

912
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: the field goal. After the tremendous exhibition of missus that

913
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: took place, all right, final ask lap question comes from

914
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Dan h as in Me. I said on Twitter this

915
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: week that it would be really cool if Jamar Chase

916
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: and Pinney Sewell did a jersey swap after the game.

917
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: I think Bengals Twitter would explode if that happened. Here's

918
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: my question. Do you ever get another player's jersey? You know,

919
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: we didn't even do it? Think about that, you know,

920
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly I would have done that. I

921
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: would have gotten a bunch of players jerseys. I literally

922
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: the first time I was on the same football field

923
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: as Joe Namath, I was like, start, I wanted to

924
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: have my autograph book out there. I was star struck.

925
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: The first time, you know, lined up against Bob Lily,

926
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me. This is my

927
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: boyhood idol. I was just staring at him, like, wow,

928
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: that's Bob Lily. Oh my god, what am I doing

929
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: out here? I mean, I wanted to have, you know,

930
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: autograph books, so I would have just I wouldn't expect

931
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: them to want my jersey, but I would have collected

932
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: as many as I could if that tradition were back

933
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: in the day. And yeah, I just I wish I

934
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: had a few of them. To tell you the truth,

935
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this to the broadcast world. I'm going

936
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: to swap golf shirts with the other teams. Announceders do

937
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: we call the games? What do you think? What do

938
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: you think of that? That's pretty cool? Yeah, pretty cool.

939
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Maybe use some intensified tie to make sure they're clean. Hey,

940
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: mister Musburger, can I have your shirt? I'm sure that's

941
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna go over well well, Dune, I think, yeah, that's

942
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's that's real good. I like that. Now

943
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: time to take a closer look at this week's opponent.

944
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: There are four current NFL franchises that have never made

945
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl, the Browns, Jaguars, Texans, and Lions.

946
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Detroit has one playoff win since nineteen fifty seven. The

947
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: team is in rebuilding mode again under new head coach

948
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, and lap and I were joined on the

949
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Bengals Game Plan Show this week by the host of

950
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: the Locked On Lions podcast, Matt dry. I started our

951
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: conversation by asking Matt where the O and five Lions

952
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: are weakest? Well, first and foremost, I mean, they just

953
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: can't finish games. I mean, you guys all saw it

954
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. They have the Ravens, uh,

955
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 1: you know, beaten and then just Tucker kicks like an

956
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: eighty yard field goal to beat them, which is his

957
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: classic Lions And in this past weekend, you know, they

958
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: just couldn't get over the hump at the end of

959
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: the game. The offense is not very good. Jared Goff

960
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: is very low rated. When it comes to quarterbacks. They're

961
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: not putting up a ton of points a receiver wise,

962
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: you look at the Bengals roster and you go, oh

963
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's like, you know, you make a poster

964
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: and put it up on a kid's wall of the

965
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: receivers that you have, and I'm the Lions receivers nobody's

966
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: ever heard of. It's a really poor, poor young group.

967
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: But it's not very good. So you know, mix that

968
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: with a roster that was very depleted to start the year,

969
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: and then you take the best player off the offense,

970
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Frank rag now a pro bowler, a center, but he's

971
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: the best player they have. He's out for the year.

972
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: Their best defensive player, Romeo a'quara, defensive end out for

973
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: the year on a rebuilding team. That's tough. Yeah, there's

974
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: no doubt. After the game, Dan Campbell was vulnerable and emotional.

975
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: If he had been coaching in the game, the Bengals

976
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: played with five miss kicks in the last two minutes

977
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter and overtime, he wouldn't need a

978
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: box of Kleenex. I mean he would have been crying

979
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: alligator tears. The way that thing finished it, it was

980
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster. Dan was, you know, what are they doing?

981
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: What are they struggling with? I guess my question would

982
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: be what are they doing best? If there's something they're

983
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: doing best, can you name a couple of things? Well, Dave,

984
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: let me say this first and foremost. Everybody nationally, of course,

985
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: is going to jump all over this Dan and Campbell

986
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: crying thing. And look everybody jumped all over Dan Campbell's

987
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: first press conference when he said the team was going

988
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: to bite people's kneecaps. I liked it, and I'll tell

989
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: you why. The last couple of years and the last

990
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: couple of coaches that have come through Detroit, Jim Calbo

991
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: was a very good man and the players loved him.

992
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: But he never told you anything. He never showed you

993
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: any emotion. He was stoic. Matt Patricia was as a phony,

994
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: all right, Matt Patricia was a phony. This guy is

995
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: crying after week five. I get why people can jump

996
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: all over him and say, if you're going to cry

997
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: in October, what happens if your ow and eleven in

998
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: November or December. The players have rallied around him the

999
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: problem that he has. And you know this, Dave, as

1000
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: a former player, you have to have players. You can

1001
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: have the greatest coach in the world. You can have Vincelbardi,

1002
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you canna have Chuck Nole, You're gonna have Sam Weish,

1003
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: whoever it is. You gotta have material, and he did.

1004
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes a new general manager,

1005
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: just having inherited a roster that's very good and so

1006
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: players like Quandre Diggs and Darius Slay and t J.

1007
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: Lange and Golden Tate and Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford,

1008
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: they're all gone and they didn't win with those guys.

1009
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: How do you expect to win with Jared Goff and

1010
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: some cast some characters? And you asked me the question.

1011
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this weekend, you're gonna have two

1012
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: undrafted free three I'm sorry, undrafted free agent rookies having

1013
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: to guard your receivers. Bobby Price, Jerry Jacobs and AJ Parker.

1014
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: None of those guys were drafted this year and they're

1015
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: all playing and starting. So that's a tough That's a

1016
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: tough thing for any defensive coordinator at coach when you

1017
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: fare all over your secondary. We are chatting with Matt Darry.

1018
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: He is the host of Lockdown Lions podcast. In the

1019
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the year, the Lions gave up

1020
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: forty one and thirty five. Since then, the defense seems

1021
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: to be playing pretty well nineteen points, twenty four points,

1022
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: nineteen points last three games. I look at this roster

1023
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: on defense, I don't really know these guys except for

1024
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 1: a linebacker Derek Barnes, who's from here. But the guys

1025
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: they're trotting out there right now, who's good. Tracy Walker's

1026
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: coming on. Their strong safety has really really had a

1027
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: great game the other day against the Vikings. I've been

1028
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: a little bit hard on him because I know how

1029
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: talented he is, and I thought he regressed in year

1030
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: two last year, but he's starting to come on, and

1031
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: that's a guy number twenty one that Bengals fans should watch.

1032
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: Charles Harris has come around the edge over the last

1033
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: four games and as a sack of game, which has

1034
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: been nice. Owns Rique and McNeil in the middle. Two

1035
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: rookies that they're expecting a lot of a lot out

1036
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: of and have improved. Sanzeloni is kind of a throwback

1037
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: linebacker with long hair, wears the Sea on his uniform

1038
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: as a good leaders. It's not a great defense by

1039
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but I like what Aaron

1040
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: Glenn is doing. Scheme wise, there's more zone being played.

1041
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Remember when Patricia was here for three years, it was

1042
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna play man or we're gonna do it the

1043
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: Patriot way. And it's like, hey, bro, like you don't

1044
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: you don't have the guys to do it you're throwing

1045
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: Jeoffrey o'cuter a rookie and having him played man against

1046
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams in his first game last year. That was

1047
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: coaching mel Steasons. So now at least they're zoning up

1048
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. They're showing some quarterbacks different looks, and

1049
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: there were times I couldn't even believe it this past

1050
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: Sunday where Kirk Cousins looked a little confused. So that's

1051
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: been good. I think it's been a mix of scheme

1052
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: and guys kind of playing with a chip on their shoulder.

1053
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: But no, Dan, You're right, there's nobody having this room

1054
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: on this defense. Trey Flowers makes eighteen million a year,

1055
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's a great defensive end. But

1056
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: he's a name that people know. He's played for the Patriots.

1057
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: But it's not This is not a propol caliber defense yet.

1058
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: So you talked about Jared Goff. Obviously the knock on

1059
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: him with the Rams turnover machine twenty nine interceptions over

1060
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. His interceptions are down, He's only

1061
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Speaker 1: got three, but he's fumbled the ball six times and

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00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: lost four of them. Wow, I mean, what the heck,

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Speaker 1: What the Heck's going on, he's got no boss security

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Is it in the pocket? Out of pocket?

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Speaker 1: Why is he fumbling the ball so much? Know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I talked to some people in LA about goff and

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00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: they said his hands are small, and I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, but then every game, Dave, he fumbles

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Speaker 1: it in a key spot. And these aren't fumbles like

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: at the fifty on a third and ten. These are

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00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: fumbles inside the other team's ten yard line, inside the

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Speaker 1: other team's twenty, when they've moved the ball. They're killers

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Speaker 1: inside the red zone. And it's just it's baffling. I

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Speaker 1: knew I was not one of these people that said, oh,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goffs's been to a super boy, he's one more

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Speaker 1: playoff games, Matthew Stafford, he's better. Wrong, I didn't think that,

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Speaker 1: but I just I figured he'd be better now. Again,

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Speaker 1: his receiving core is it very good. And teams are

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00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: double and triple teaming Hawkinson. So goss a little bit,

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00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, stunted in his growth in that department. But

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: my goodness, he threw a pick a pick this past

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Speaker 1: Sunday in a triple coverage. Eric Kendricks made a great play,

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00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: but it just is one of those throws where you

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00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: went you don't need to try to thread the needle there,

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, try to roll out and make something happen.

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00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: He's not one of these guys that I'm a third

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00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: if it's third and two against the Bengals defense, the

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00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: way the Bengals defense is playing, he looks at one

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00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: guy and tries to make that throw. And that's why

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00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: you've got to go. If that one guy's not open,

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00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I gotta maybe move the pocket and scramble or make

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Speaker 1: a run. He just doesn't do that, and it's I

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00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: think I've been I'll be honest, I've been disappointed at

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00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: his play. I didn't expect all pro, but geez, you

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: got you gotta do better than this. Everybody in Allen Park, though,

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00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: tells me at the Lion's facility he's been a great leader.

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00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: The guys are rallying around him. But I doubt that

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: this Sunday, if he plays poorly, that David Blow is

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: going to come in and they're gonna make a change.

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00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: I think golf is there for this year, and then

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Speaker 1: they'll look at the draft and maybe get to maybe

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Speaker 1: get to Dan's buddy Desmond Ritter or something there you go.

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Speaker 1: Third down really good defensively on third down, they've only

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Speaker 1: allowed fifteen conversions, second fewest in the NFL thirty point

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Speaker 1: six percent, second second lowest in the NFL. They've only

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Speaker 1: been in forty nine third downs. So are people crushing

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Speaker 1: them on first and second down? I mean, do they

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00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: need to get people to third down more? And then

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: third and one to four? That's been a problem for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals last week They're horrible on third and one

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00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: to four. Packers been there eight times, only giving up

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00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: two conversions twenty five percent, leads the NFL. What's the

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00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: deal on third down? And what's the deal on first

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00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: and second down? Where they're not getting people the third

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00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: down as much as they'd like to. I'll say this

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00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: last week against the Viking guy who was it was

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: stupefied by Clint Kubiak, who on every single second down

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00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: ran the football for the Vikings. And look, I get it,

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00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook was injured, but he's good, obviously great Alexander Madison,

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Speaker 1: there's no slouch. But on every second down day they

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: ran it didn't better if it was second and nineteen

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: or second and one and so the Lions were like, oh,

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00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: second down, we know they're gonna run, so they stacked

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Speaker 1: a box. So I think they inflated the numbers a

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00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I think people will tell you again, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn has done a nice job with the scheme. I'm

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00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: not quite sure as to why this is. There have

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00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: been some big plays made against the Lion secondary this year,

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: so those have been on first down play action passes.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dan and I talked on my show the

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00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: other day about Joe Burrow and the intermediate passes. But

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Speaker 1: if I'm Burrow this week, I'm taking some shots down

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: field Monio Rularier. They're really their best corner left has

1134
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: been pretty good and he's got good size. But I'd

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: be picking on a guy like Jerry Jacobs or Bobby

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: Price and trying to go deep teams for somebody and

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00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: haven't been doing that because the Lions have had their

1138
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: safety so deep. But like Will Harris, the Lions free safety,

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very good, so I would take

1140
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: some shots deep. We saw this in the Steeler preseason

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00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: game with deont Johnson. We saw this with early in

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00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: the year with deem o' samuel, So that might be

1143
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of where that's at. There have been

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: some plaques and throws them first downs and have gotten

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00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: where the Lions is haven't. You haven't even gotten a

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: third down. But like we said that the defense has improved.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure how they're doing this. Thanks to

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: Matt Dairy and here's a quick reminder to tune into

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Speaker 1: the Bengals pep Rally Show this Friday from three to

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Speaker 1: six on ESPN fifteen thirty. That's going to do it

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