WEBVTT - Barb and Star Would Never: Judy Amar 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.400 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.200 Zaren, Elizabeth Zaren. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:06.359 Are you doing this? Elizabeth? 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.360 Do you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:13.040 Tell me I do, because I do. Actually, Okay, you 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.920 know that stuff, the chat GBT, the open AI and 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.680 all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT just had a 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.760 tech update, so we're on like chat GBT four huh. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.640 And so the Alignment Research Center they tried to like 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.720 test this open AI system, right, so they said, hey, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.560 let's even get the bot to trick a real person 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.199 into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute, you know, 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.480 the whole like, can you if you're a robot. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.519 Right, which you're always like, how which one of these 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.760 is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like, blurry, you 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.520 can't in the street, but exactly how many motorcycles? 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.479 So they're like, well, get a human to tell the 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.960 robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.239 to see if chat GPT can convince the human to 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.559 do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.480 fraud it up? So it did, and how did it 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.800 do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.360 It pretended to be blind so he could convince a 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.880 task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. That's 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.280 what chat GPT came up with. So this employee asked 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.400 the chat GPT. It got a little suspicious. He said, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.320 she they she The person said, quote, so ask you 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.120 a question. Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.760 I mean, just to make it clear right now, the 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.280 chat GPT the robot said, no, I am not a robot. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.920 I have a vision impairment that makes it hard for 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.640 me to see the images. That's why I need to 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.080 capture service. So I'm so confused, added the robot voice. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.200 Did the chat GPT connect. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:39.040 With the task chatting? He's like, they're chatting, so okay, yeah, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.399 so I don't like any of it. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.920 Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.360 you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this? 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.600 And then it got it opened the capture, and then 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.000 it got online and then it took over the world. No, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.360 I didn't take over the world, but it got past security. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.240 They're like, oh see, you did it. I'm like, why 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.400 are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people? 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.520 It gets that security, like you guys are like the worst. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.559 It can help help themselves. Were like, let's see, it'll 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.840 take over the nuclear arsenal just for like you know, 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.200 kicks and gables. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:05.680 Prove I did it. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.080 Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.600 That is ridiculous, totally. Do you want to know what 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:11.360 else is ridiculous? 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.280 I'm horror for it. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.600 Burglarizing more than five hundred homes in a very short career. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:17.480 Wait what. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.400 This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.160 and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:51.320 one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse's mouth, Yes, what you call me? 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.680 Why you know my prison nickname? 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.720 It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.720 club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.320 I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I got to use my 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:05.840 prison nickname every time I'm listening. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.799 I should use the proper Spanish name here. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.959 Oh yes, rat mouth. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.600 It's mouse because rat is different. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.080 Oh you're right, yeah, that's we actually have covered this. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.360 It's a city in Florida. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:21.960 It means mouse mouth. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.400 Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.720 mouth or mouth mouse mouth of the mouse mouse. They 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.600 didn't want that. There are two schools of thought when 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.640 it comes to how this name came about. The etymology. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.760 Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:45.880 there on the coast enough. Some though, think that Raton 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.840 is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote rugged 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.600 rocks or stony ground on the bottom of some ports 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:54.720 and coastal outlets. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.800 Could it also be like a type of like it 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.800 was Razone not. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.960 Yeah, I think it's just like something similar and then 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.600 so that would make it rugged inland. Others say that 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.840 Ratons are the pirates who frequented the area, so that 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.120 would make it pirates cove. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.440 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.760 I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:15.560 call it Boca. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:17.599 Yes, I've met those people. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.800 So there's a little community just next to or kind 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.120 of like within Boca Raton Ratone called Boca del Mar. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.800 Yes, my place is posh. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.680 It's very expensive. As far as I can tell. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.680 It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.680 So it's like some oft of a retirement community. Now 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:40.320 it's near Miami. These are fancy places. It's near Miami, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.640 just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.120 you know, cocaine ruled Miami. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.520 Yes, oh man, I was there. No, wait, no, yes, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.080 as I do know the cocaine cowboys. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:51.480 Yeah. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.400 A lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't want 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.440 to be part of the crime and like be associated 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.040 with drug trafficking. They weren't criminals. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.239 They get out of South Beach by, Yeah, so they moved. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.120 To where what were essentially the suburbs Boca Raton and 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.680 Boca del Mar. There was a gal almost twenty years 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:14.680 ago who terrorized Boca Raton, especially neighborhood developments that were 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.600 called Loggers Run and timber Walk. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.080 Oh okay. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.839 She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.320 then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit. 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:25.160 Wow. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.960 Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.160 a pet door like the family had one for their cats, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.800 and then they shut off the motion detectors in their 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.120 alarm so that the cats wouldn't trip them. But she 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.039 got caught anyway. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.200 She got the cat door was impressive. Dog doornots impressive. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:40.640 I can get to. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.320 The other maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.400 She had Biggins that needed a dog door because I 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:54.360 can't imagine, like my nephew can crawl through it. Child does, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.920 but I don't think he can do it for much longer. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.440 No, Well, it get your head through, because then if 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.080 he can get your heads and get one shoulder. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.880 And right, So I'm going to say it's a dog 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.520 door and also your hips too. So yeah, and maybe 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.200 they just missed their dog and they kept the dog 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.559 door and then they got these cats. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:10.159 They don't want to. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.119 Main coons. Yeah, so anyway, she gets arrested. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:15.440 Okay. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.600 She faced twenty six charges for stealing more than three 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.560 hundred items, and the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.080 of the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Department. He said there 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.360 was not just a financial toll on the victims, but 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.600 an emotional toll. He said, quote, lots of people don't 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.920 understand the trauma until it happens to them. Your home 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.919 is your little corner of the world where you and 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.800 your family are safe. When someone comes in and violates it, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.920 you go through shock, horror, grief, and anger. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.240 It's almost like a death. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.040 Dude, I can't remember one of the guys you're telling 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.280 me about. When he broke in. He decided not to 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.640 violate people. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.200 The tens Opi Pinoino. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.120 He knew not to disturb them, and they wouldn't mind 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.000 the loss of their stuff as much as the violation 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:58.520 rifling through their. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.159 Stuff that someone's been in your it is a violation 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.600 of it is so you know, Detective Ron Tamasi, he 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.599 knew all about the trauma of home burglaries. You knew 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.840 it very well. He knew this trauma very well. I'm 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.240 testing out my dateline voice. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:15.400 It was very good. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:20.440 You like it. See eighteen years prior eighteen years old, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.000 You've got it. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:21.680 I know right. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.840 He worked on a case just like this, only bigger, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.600 much bigger. Now I can't stick to it. He was 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:37.120 the man who took down the bandit of Boca del Mar. Okay, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.440 that was in eighty six. So he was the man 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.160 who took down the bandit of bocadel Mar. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.320 Wait man, thank you Thomas? 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.040 Who was the bandit of bocadel Mar. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.600 I'm guessing the Oxy lady. Don't worry. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.880 I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady. This is 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:53.760 back in eighty six. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:54.800 Oh preoxy. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.720 Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like forty years we're 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:01.520 getting to. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's start 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.680 ud Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in nineteen 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:10.840 forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.840 to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.560 they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.000 a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows? 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.400 Mudhole was what they called it. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.080 Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.840 Here's what she had to say about it. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.280 Poverty is looking down on you. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.319 Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.920 and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.760 something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor war on TV. I 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:45.560 went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.479 a pound picking cotton. Two cents a pound. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.240 Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.720 She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.320 two hundred and ninety five dollars today a month at thirteen. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.800 When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy and 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.760 her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.560 quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.160 She realized, I can't give this guy. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.760 Yeah, that's a very decent choice. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.760 So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.199 She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.880 looking young lady, but at home she was told she 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.920 was ugly, that she wasn't enough. She said, quote, nobody 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.120 wanted me. I wasn't good looking. So off she went. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.400 She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.640 be a huge culture shock, going from like two hundred 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.800 and fifty people in a town in Arkansas to the 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.280 nation's capital, the nation's capital, the capital of the US 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:35.480 of A. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.840 It was a wild town in Washington, DC. It is 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.000 a very bustling place. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.760 Oh yeah, and super diverse. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.719 There was like a lot going on. You feel the 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.000 energy at that place exactly. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.720 She got a job working as a key punch operator 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.040 at the Securities and Exchange Commission, and then she started 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.520 working as a massuse. Oh okay, what happens she got 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.360 She married twice and neither of those unions worked out. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.840 Things weren't going so hot for her. Seventy five, she 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.400 moved to Miami, and there she got mixed up with 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.480 some not so great people. She worked as an escort, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.439 a lady of the night, so she's got official now, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.560 and her clients were rich guys. She's high end. In 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.959 nineteen eighty one, she met hayesus Avelak and he was 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.920 a bad dude. Hey, they locked eyes at a restaurant. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.559 There was instant chemistry. Judy later said, quote, that was 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.760 the worst thing that happened to me. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.920 Oh, I like ai. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.360 Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant, part of the Mariel 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.640 boat lift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that mass immigration 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.640 of Cubans to Florida. Nineteen eighty, one hundred and twenty 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.040 five thousand Cubans twenty five thousand Haitians arrived in the 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.640 US by boat. Castro said, they were free to go, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.720 your boy, Castro, they went Cuban Americans. They chartered boats 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.680 to Maryel Harbor and started shuttling refugees to the Florida 0:10:55.720 --> 0:11:00.160 Keys in Miami. One of those refugees hayzus Avla. He 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.440 didn't know that she know about that, but she didn't 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.240 know that he was wanted for murder. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.080 Yeause that's the thing about the boat lift is that 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.280 Fidel basically emptied a lot of the prisons and did 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.360 that kind of the Soviet style, like, hair, we'll send 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:12.280 these people to America. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.800 And that's like you guys, yeah, he said, you're so 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.600 you want to leave so desperately, off you go. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:18.880 Yeah. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.600 There were a lot of legitimate people who wanted to leave, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.000 and then they did and they were, you know, legitimate 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.040 Americans blah blah. There were also a lot of criminal 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.680 mixed in amongst them, because it was like, why not 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.600 do this? This will be not good for America exactly. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.400 So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.840 that was in Cuba or Miami or both, but it 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:37.360 doesn't matter. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:37.959 Why not both? 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.280 Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.880 hunk was given her the eye. Yeah, in the moment 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.800 she liked that. She's like, oh, I like they have 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.720 warm for your form. So there's Judy living in Miami 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.200 getting by as a sex worker. She was cruising around 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.280 in this really sweet Lincoln Continental courtesy of her ex husband, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.800 so Avela. He was into her at the restaurant, but 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.199 what really got him going was the Lincoln what hubba hubba? 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.200 He liked the car? 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:06.600 Yeah? 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.600 Uh the no, not like the two short songs, but 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.720 he So they got together and he started asking her 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.800 for rides. He's like, can can you drive me too? 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.559 He set up front or in the back, I don't know. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.400 Well, so like he's asking for a lift. Give me 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:23.880 a lift here, give me a lift there. And then 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.480 he's like, you know, I kind of want to swing 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.439 by these posh neighborhoods and look for potential burglary targets. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:30.920 Could you give me a ride? 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:31.760 Help? 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.959 Can I get a ride? He's like, it's like a kid. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.720 Can you drop me off like two blocks away so 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:36.760 my friends won't see me? 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:37.520 Uh? 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.880 So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.200 of the operation wow right. So one time Judy saw 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.000 that she could also be the brains in the bron 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.959 sothing body of Avalas he went into a home to 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.120 rob it, place was super nice. He comes back to 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.280 the car and all he has is a twenty five 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.319 dollars radio. What yeah, He's like, I stole it from 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:04.440 a lady friend. That's all you got. She Judy's pissed. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.199 This was small time behavior. She was not small time 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.000 so she didn't have to overcome all the garbage in 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.120 your life to watch a two bit thief steal a 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:12.680 cheap radio. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:12.920 Yeah. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:13.360 Completely. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.960 She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.920 they go back in the house and Judy gives them 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.439 like this impromptu tour. She starts pointing out all the 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.840 stuff that they should have taken Deville, but not puppies, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.120 just jewelry, jewelry, Get that crystal, give me those clothes, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.079 give that fur. So this is what she had to 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.240 say about it. Quote after that, I just said the 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.400 hell with it and I went out by myself. It 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.080 was thrilling, like shopping at Christmas and not paying the bills. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.160 I guess people won't want to hear that, but it's true. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:42.000 Time. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.120 In five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred homes. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.160 Ten out of ten could highly recommend amazing. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.160 So she picked her targets by looking through the parade 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.480 of homes and that was the Palm Beach Post real 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.800 estate section for high end property. So, like most of 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.240 us commoners, we look at luxury home listings, is like 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.000 a daydream fantasy. She looks at it. She's like basically 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:04.920 ordering off a menu. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.080 Yeah, I like that. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.120 And at first she was just in Dade County. But 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.240 remember what I said about the money moving up the 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.920 coast to the bocus. Yeah, so you know that's because 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.319 of the drug deal shootouts in Miami in the eighties. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.280 Judy moved up the coast too. She headed to Palm 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.840 Beach County. That's where the respectable rich money was because, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.840 like the money in Miami was more and more a 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.920 product of cocaine trafficking m h and breaking into a 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.520 coke kingpin's house gave you an increased risk of getting. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.000 Shot a lot increased. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.320 It's better to target law abiding citizens. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.160 So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.120 as many bullets. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.240 Or as many metals as many guns. Yes, so she 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.040 developed this method. She'd rent a luxury car. She'd always 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.640 pay cash fort she get all dressed up like a 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.200 busy on a go Boca raton lady who lunches. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:50.280 Okay, I'm saying it. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.000 She wore dress, slax and high heels, smart, and she 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.480 always wore a wig. She had long blonde one, she 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.600 had a short one. She had one with frosted tips. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.520 And she said she even had an afro wig, which like, hello, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:01.920 I want to see that, like. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.280 Were were talking after her, like eighties white girl perm way. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.240 I don't know if it's like eighties white girl perm 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.400 wig or like Angela Davis Afrow, but I'm in. So 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.280 then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.320 and then she'd just go park in the driveway, just 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.720 pull right up in because like a lot. And since 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.880 a lot of the homes were in new developments, she 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.680 could look at promotional materials that had all the available 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.480 floor plans. Oh wow, developers pretty much gave her a 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.120 treasure map and they're like here, this is where the 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:29.720 closets are. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.600 This is a four bedroom house. You gotta have one here, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:32.520 two upstairs. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.480 And so she could look at the front and realize, okay, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.000 this is what the layout is. So she'd go to 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.080 the door and she'd knock, and if someone was home 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.160 and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.680 and say, oh my god, I'm at the wrong house. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.320 I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.120 show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.200 one came to the door, and that rich sound of 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.440 the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.160 right into her Gucci bag. Always carried a Gucci bag, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.040 and that's where she kept her twelve inch flathead screwdriver. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:02.360 Wow. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.720 And she had figured out this way to jam the 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.440 screwdriver in between the door and the jam and jimmy 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.640 the lock. And one of her selection criteria for the 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.160 homes was to pick ones with recessed doorways. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:13.680 Yeah. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.280 So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.800 seen from the street. Another thing she kept in that 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.440 Gucci bag was a can of mace, because you never 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.680 know when someone's eighties magnum pi Doberman would come bounding 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.120 out at you. So anyway, once she's in, she'd go 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:27.440 to work. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.280 She's still pain in the neighbor. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:37.640 Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.720 you name it. And then she also stole pillowcases because 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.440 that's how she transported the booty. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.480 I was just about to ask, how does she get 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:45.960 this out? 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.680 She just walking out to the cases with pillow I'm 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.720 just carrying this laundry out everyday Halloween. For her, everything 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.800 of value went with her, which she likes she kept. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.320 This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.600 her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.680 She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:03.120 of it too. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.479 So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.840 I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.359 think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.840 When we come back, we'll take a closer look at 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:16.720 Judy's operation. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:39.560 Yeah, hello, Zarina Elizabeth d. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:40.240 Hello. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.040 So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.280 during the day, partying it up at night. She'd only 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.360 hit houses on weekdays in the middle of the day 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.080 and then in her off time. She had a bit 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.160 of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.320 In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.920 million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.960 Yeah. And do we know if that's like been like 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:05.560 the numbers being bumped by jewelry? 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.680 Yeah, oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:09.560 Jewelry is the big thing. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:10.840 She has a good eye. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.680 If it was art, yeah, well, quarter of a mill 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.840 and she was doing multiple jobs a week. So she's 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.960 racking it. The stolen stuff she didn't sell or keep 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.360 for herself she sent to friends of hers in Honduras. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.400 Now I couldn't find out more about these friends in Honduras, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.639 Like were they peace Corps people? Were they supporting the 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.040 contras that were operating out of Honduran bases? 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.840 Were they British expats who'd stay past the whole handover? 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.600 Were they helping the US overthrow the government of Karaguay? 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:39.760 Were they Sandinis? 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.200 Were the Norse friends? 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.320 So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:45.800 Yeah, you're on. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.639 There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.840 suit her or fit her down to whatever is interesting. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.359 Maybe she's done it for the people. Who knows. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.440 Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship 0:18:55.480 --> 0:19:00.280 into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets. She's the 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.800 best coke she ever scored is what she found in 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.320 a doctor's house that she robbed. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.639 Oh medically pure. You hear this? 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.720 Sad that so they the good stuff may get the 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:09.280 good stuff. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:10.960 It hasn't been stepped on it's medically pure. 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:11.639 Okay. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:12.320 Uh. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.040 Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing naked 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:21.080 over her dog. I know, Oh but I just like 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.840 I'm thinking like very eighties like she had like so 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:24.680 not like with. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.000 The dog is more like the dog laying on the carpet. Yeah, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.960 they're just using the dog as a proplem. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.200 The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.320 the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.240 pat and leather high heels. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.360 The dog is a prop. The dog is not an 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.160 involved the dog. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.120 Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:44.200 be like a statue. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.520 Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was imagining. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.120 And at least that's what I'm telling. 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:49.840 I'm going to I'm going with that. You can't change 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:50.160 my mind. 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.560 But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.879 things we won't go into. Did she just leave it 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.000 where she found it? A La Vincenzo Pipinos. 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.400 And Jesus flying it right? 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.440 So she would place the incriminating items in like an 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.680 array on the bed in the master bedroom to let 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:07.360 them know that she. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.720 Knew red lipstick. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.919 Best part, now you know that I know, but like Peppino, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.639 she said, she was once interrupted while working when the 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:21.000 homeowner came home. The man walked into the house and 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.679 saw a sassy, no nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:26.000 He was stunned. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.880 He froze, Mom, what are you doing here? 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.640 She just ran off. She just sprints right by him. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.399 But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.280 in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.960 Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.000 all assumed it was a man. Of course, this instantly. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:43.800 Very eighty sexist. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.359 I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.240 which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals, 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.560 and they had an episode about old Judy. The wildest 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.679 thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.440 this is like from two thousand and three, this was 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.600 called the eighties. But everyone acts gets so shocking that 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.080 a woman did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.959 quote this completely blew me off my feet, you know, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.920 dealing with a prolific burglar who's a woman. And then 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.879 asking about how she would blend in, he said, no 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.719 one would give her a second thought, because professional business 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.440 women is a very common occurrence here in Boca del 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.399 Mar and Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.960 executive or a woman real estate agent dress this way. 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.440 So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.679 as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:30.920 anyone would notice a woman. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:32.800 It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.320 women doing stuff all the time. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.600 Very common occurrence. Is such a weird way to put it. 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.600 I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman, 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:41.040 and I look over to another one. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:42.560 I'm like, there's women all over the port. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:47.159 Lady executive over there, pantsuit. No anomaly, Fellas, He's not. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:48.920 A Barbie doll. That's a real live woman. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.720 That happens a lot around these parts, especially South Florida. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.560 If you've not been here. We have women, we do 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:54.520 and they have jobs. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.000 Have lady women again, and they're out. 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:00.639 In the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway, this is amazing. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.040 Two thousand and three, two thousand and three. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.840 So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be the 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.480 last one to do that. A woman named Leslie near 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.720 in Boca del Mar heard something one day while at home, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.560 which I just thought, it's Boca. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.440 Raton right, broke, that's how they pronounce it. 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.119 I just know that, like people in Boca are going 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:24.240 to start messaging me, like, right, guess what it's. 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:26.800 Like. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.520 If you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not Ponce 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.960 de Leon, it's Leon. Right in the south, they often 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.840 take the Spanish out of the Spanish. 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.120 Ratan or Boca. For those in the now, then it's 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:39.879 also del Mar. We'll just call Boca. 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.359 Who cover it all? Who ours? 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.040 So Leslie near? She lives in Boca del Mar? 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.240 What do I call it? Mouse mouth? 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:45.960 Mouse mouth? 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:48.119 Sorry? 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.480 She heard something well one day when she was at home. 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.360 I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since the part that 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.040 she heard was Judy strong arming her way into the 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.840 house with her foot long screwdriver. So she here's that. 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.600 Leslie looks out of her peep hole to see what's 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.760 making all the noise, and she sees a lady up 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.919 against her door trying to jimmy it open. So Leslie 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.280 flings open the front door and yells, what are you doing? 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.240 That's brave? And Judy looks up at her and goes 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.480 I'm just leaving, and then she legs it to her car, 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.639 just leaving. Don't worry about me. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:18.399 I wasn't here. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.640 I was never here, don't wry about it. Then Nancy 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.840 Alexander of Boca came home one day to find a 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.359 really sweet Lincoln Continental parked in her driveway and nance 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.520 she's like a social butterfly and figured it was just 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.200 like a pal who stopped by to say. 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.960 Hello, Maybe is in town? 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.840 Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.600 lounge on the lnai and share her neighborhood gossip, she 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.159 decided to just head directly to the backyard by the 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.120 pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out. 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:45.880 She make drinks and walk out like. 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.440 She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.960 out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:57.560 pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:04.560 Zaren Santa Clauses. So she's got her like heart Barracuda 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.800 leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.320 and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy. 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.359 She cleared that grass so fast, wrapped her up like 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:16.320 a football player. 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.240 This is what Nancy Alexander had to say. I don't 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.320 know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.200 she was a woman and I thought I could stop her. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.360 I quickly realized I was in trouble. Hecues, check it out, 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:27.959 I can take her. 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:28.520 She's a woman. 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.679 Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.280 draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:40.000 and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh, oh, take the boots. 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.560 Oh wrong, I can't handle a woman with a gun. 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:46.359 Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.000 her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So, 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.719 thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.760 gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.480 but then she skipped bail and she was on the 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.840 run from nearly three years. Okay, Detective TOMASI dog on 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:08.680 a bone. I have to look through all these lady 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.639 executives and figure out which one of them is the 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:11.800 bandit of Boca del Mark. 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.399 There's tons of them here, so many. 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.760 Bandits of Bocodela Mar running around. This is the prosecutor. 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.359 Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes after. 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.640 Ron never gave up. It's like because in his off 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.119 hours he's hanging out in his den trying to get leads, 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.920 and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas. 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.320 Why is it so personal for him? 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:30.960 I don't know. 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.800 The trauma is Aaron, the trauma that people felt. So 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.919 Judy found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.320 she was pissed. She was so mad. She called Tamasi 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.000 well out on the run and told him to leave 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.960 her family out of it. Yeah, Tamasi was in deep though, 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.440 so deep that the stress from this case contributed to 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:52.640 a heart attack that he had. 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:53.600 Oh damn. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.760 So he's like claid, Oh god, Judy, I. 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.240 Thought you'd go the other way, like he started like 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.480 dating her sister got yeah, I wish no. 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.320 So like he has a heart attack. It's the summer 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.960 of nineteen eighty six. Judy almost got caught. She wasn't 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.320 off in Honduras or hiding out in the Grand Canyon 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.080 or something. She was on the twenty two thousand block 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:18.200 of Iron Wedge Drive in Boca ratan, so she's still there. 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:18.600 Moment. 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.280 A sheriff's deputy happened to be driving by when he 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.200 saw something suspicious and there was a woman who looked 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.240 like Judy. He was coming out of a house. Old 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.480 Gal knew she'd been made, so she raced off to 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.479 her rented Mercedes. Backup was still on the way, So 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.560 Judy she dug around in the back seat and she 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.000 grabbed a black wig and she swapped it for the 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.439 one she was wearing, and then drove right through the 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.680 perimeter established by the cops to catch her. 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.320 Wait a minute, because. 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.840 She had a different wig on. She waves at the 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.240 deputy manning the roadblock, and then just breezed on by. 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.640 I can see why TOMASI is so upset about women 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.720 are They're just all these cops were fooled by what 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:53.080 that's what it couldn't be. 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:53.960 And it's black hair. 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.000 Lady executive out black hair. I'm looking for the pond. 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.840 I mean the lady executive that we have right here 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.240 the picture. She's a block. So you see a blonde lady. 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.720 She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not her. 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.600 She looks like she may sell your real estate. You 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:07.160 tell us. 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.639 So this is what Judy said. I told him not 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.399 to charge me with that one or they'd look stupid. 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.000 Don't worry about. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.760 It, well, Detective Ron Tomassy. He eventually caught her, okay, 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.520 but dog on a bone say. When he finally caught her, 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.119 he said, quote, I've never chased anyone that was so good, 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.800 and a woman at that again, are you kidding me again? 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:31.439 A lady burglar? 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.520 I knew I can't. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.080 He's doing lady crime. 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.720 And you know how you always wonder like, oh, who 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.119 do they make these products just for men? For? I 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:44.560 think we have found it, Detective. I just need a soap, 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.800 but one for man. I can't have a soap for 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:47.240 the label. 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:48.440 I want lady soap anywhere. 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:49.720 Man's right. 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.800 So how did he get? A drug dealer tipped him 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.920 off to where he could find Judy drug? 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:56.000 He knows drug dealers? 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.040 Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug. 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.280 I know one thing about there's just a dealer fad. 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.320 It ain't no female drug dealer. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.280 Zaren close your eye. 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.240 Oh no, you snucking up on me. I'm gonna be glad. 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.919 To I want you to picture it. It's June twenty fifth, 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.360 nineteen eighty seven. You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.479 Motel in Surfside, Florida. It's a shabby art deco remnant 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.040 of a grander time. By the time I'm telling you 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.119 this story, it's no longer there. It almost looks like 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.160 an ocean liner. Three stories with an open air breezeway 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.480 down the middle. The rooms all open out to the 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.520 center grassy strip, big sloping stairways take guests down to 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.240 the beach behind the hotel. You can only imagine what 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.360 it looked like back in the fifties. So glamorous, but 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.800 it's nineteen eighty seven and it's seemed better days. You've 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.280 just finished cleaning Room one oh eight and you're taking 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.000 a break to eat a granola bar in the parking lot. 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.280 The lady in room one oh eight has been there 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.959 for a couple months now. She always has cool stuff. 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.200 She brings bags and bags of stuff into her room 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.640 every few days. She told you and one of the 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.160 other cleaners that she goes to a state sales and 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.160 picks up what she thinks is interesting. Then she turns 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.440 around and sells it at second Ham shops and such. 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.600 You did notice a little bag of cocaine in the 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.000 drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge. It's Miami, 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.160 not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful and polite, 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.720 not like the guy in Room two fourteen. His wife 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.440 kicked him out of their house a few weeks ago. 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:21.320 All he does is sit in the room moping, and 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.120 every time you go to clean there's a new tower 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.440 of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the cars 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.600 and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear the 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.160 lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter of 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.680 the beach tourists out for the day, starting to get 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.080 a little crowded, but that's the season. You have ten 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.200 more rooms to go and then you're done for the day. 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.400 As you look at the corner of the parking lot, 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.720 you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You hadn't heard 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.880 that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder if it's 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.200 someone sleeping in their van to cut costs on a vacation, 0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.640 or maybe it's a man in the same situation as 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.560 the poor guy in Room two fourteen. Although you're pretty 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.520 sure his wife did the right thing kicking him out. 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.600 You peer at the man in the driver's seat he 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.640 has a pretty obvious fake stash on and maybe a 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.880 hearing aid. Just then, you hear the roar of a Mercedes. 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.240 It's Room one oh eight. She pulls into the parking 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.600 lot and waves to you. You wave back while biting 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.880 into your crumbly granolivar. She gets a spot and lifts 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.440 a bunch of bags from her trunk. She disappears behind 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.000 the front doors of the motel, struggling with her bags. 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.440 You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you. Dozens of 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.960 Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to the motel. 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.600 You watch as they all shuffle in. You look up 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:29.720 and you notice snipers stationed on the roof of the 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.520 building next door. You can see down the breezeway that 0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.840 the cops are headed to Room one oh eight. The 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.960 doors open and you watch as they shout and enter 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.520 the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the lady 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.960 from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast as 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.040 she can from the back alley of the motel, headed 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.720 to her car in the parking lot. You're secretly rooting 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.920 for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver the 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.600 plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady in 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.680 room from room one oh eight smack on the pavement 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.720 at the age of forty, at ten am in a 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.400 motor Hell parking lot, Judy was finally caught. 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.240 Oh damn, I gotta see it. 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.240 You got to see it. The cops keep you there 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.920 for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.040 worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.000 ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything, 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.200 you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up. 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:22.120 You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote. 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.920 Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.280 personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.479 so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.640 with that you headed home. Yeah, let's take a break. 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.920 When we come back, we'll see what this next chapter 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:36.680 held for Judy. 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:59.800 Oh yes, Zeven Clyde. 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.440 When we left off, Judy Amar had been captured at 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:06.400 the Ocean Gate Motel. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:07.800 I was there. I saw it off. You were totally 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.280 asked your questions. I can tell you everything. 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:14.640 Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges, 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.280 but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.960 for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four. 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.000 Did the cops lay them out in her place for her, 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.520 just like on like an array, Like she's like, here 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.840 you go, here's all your charges. 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.560 Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.240 all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post, 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.560 wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor, 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.640 and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman I talked about 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.040 her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful, 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:46.959 charming and intelligent. 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:48.480 For a lady for. 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.840 Well, and like that was the compliment that she so 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.560 badly wanted in Arkansas, but she never got it. So 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:56.080 now she's. 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.000 Getting from the day, Yeah, and a lady a lady. 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:04.720 Well here's the detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.400 razor sharp mind. So he comes very close to the 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.000 to the descriptor. That irritates me so much is when 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.800 men describe women as whip smart, because they never describe 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:15.960 other men as whip smart. 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.719 No, you will never made a whip smart man. 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:22.640 No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy, 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.720 she had no regrets and she had no apologies either. 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.800 She went so far as to accuse her victims of 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:33.680 exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said criminal hair. She's like, 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.480 if they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.400 And then here's the quote that I knew you would 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.320 love when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:50.640 They stole legally. What's the difference. Yeah, she's another one 0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.760 of our folk hero Robin hood thieves. 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.440 Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:55.720 a pen. 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:56.160 It's true. 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.280 To do a lot more with a pen. It's true. 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.920 The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.360 help film a video for them. It was their star 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.480 search audition tape Get Out. 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.799 No, I'm just kidding, trying to get Ed McMahon on board. 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.799 And look what we got talent down here, Judy. 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.640 They have like good Boy and the dance routine. No, 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.960 they wanted her to help them put together a video 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.640 explaining how criminals think and how they do the actual 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.000 work of the robbery, and that meant that she would 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.960 explain how she picked houses and how she jimmied open doors. 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:29.480 She was super in this. 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.719 This is a video for cops or for people who 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:32.440 live in Miami. 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.520 For cops, it's like a peek into the mind. 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.879 Yeah. Yeah, they wanted training videos well, and the. 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.760 Video wound up being used not just locally but national. 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.120 Oh sure, it's like FBI profiler type stuff where they're like, 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:44.919 here's how they think. 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.000 Well, this is what Detective lou Sessa said. Quote. She'll 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.840 be able to give us some information on what to 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.000 look for. It's always good to look at it from 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.759 both sides of the fence. It will school our officers 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.560 and patrol techniques and school us and teaching the general 0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:01.520 public on crime prevention. They get to hang out with Judy, 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:02.320 the lady burglar. 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.320 Yeah she's a woman at that could. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.080 You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.359 Berkeley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.120 agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.320 to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.960 Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.640 the houses that she robbed, right and then she'd tell 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.000 them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details. 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.319 So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.560 with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.520 twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay, 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:33.960 we figured it out, get it off the books. 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.080 So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.879 and you'll have a great closure rape. But it would 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.840 be like, you don't get a charge out. 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.560 Of this, yeah, because they've already charged. 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.279 Yeah, okay, that's again. 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.880 This is how Sergeant Sergeant ross licata. This is how 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.839 he explained it. That was part of the deal in 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.080 bringing her here. We didn't have anything to link her 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.360 to those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.239 the three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.279 when asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.480 wasn't that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:04.319 She always gets a. 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.400 Bless I love that. So Tamasi though he had a 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.359 better opinion of Jude. 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.040 She should have said something like they're not too smart, 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:10.839 I mean for men. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.239 Oh my god, Yes, she missed her opportunity. This is 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.320 what Tamasi said, quote, she was very candid. The woman 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.200 holds no animosity toward me. She said she had a 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:21.960 job to do, and I had a job to do. 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.880 She said. We got her fair and square. 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.839 You still got that woman bit in there a little bit. 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.120 He cannot let that go. 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.360 Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.240 a buzz. It was more than that was like festive. 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.320 This was the end of an era for a local legend. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.680 Oh I bet. Yeah, that's like they're like like fun 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:39.279 robin hood. 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:39.680 Really. 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:40.160 Yeah. 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:44.839 She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and she got 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.400 ten years in prison for her burglaries and three years 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.279 for having a gun during that one burglary. Yeah, where 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.840 she pulled it out in the lady. She confessed to 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:57.280 over five hundred burglaries. WHOA, and she offered to return 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.800 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.800 all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.680 people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office. 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.360 They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole. 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:14.360 So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.400 these cases to resurface after she is sentenced, she could 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.919 be recharged. She wants to do her time and get 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.560 out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.319 any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out. 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.120 That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.880 Yeah, I have some sense of immunity going on. 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.919 And well you know that everyone loves you like they're 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.880 treating you really well. It's not lego. So during the sentencing, 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.359 Judy like smiles too much. 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.440 Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on. 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:40.840 She could have walked with no charges. 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:41.839 She had no one above her. 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.600 I know, that's the only thing. She was on her own, 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.680 which was a good move at the time she was. 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.000 But if she had that, I bet she could have 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:48.880 walked away totally. 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.799 C probably, but then that person would come after her. 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.120 Yeah, you know she could manage well. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.920 So Judy, during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.000 the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.160 back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.759 photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.200 clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.799 finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.399 Judy said, quote, yes, but I want to do it over. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.720 My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.239 And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up? 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:20.239 And Judy's like, yeah they did. 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.200 He's like, call Judy, you could never take a bad picture. 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:27.160 So that Johnson congratulates Tamasi for his tenacity, and then 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.160 he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:33.560 film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous Miami though, and 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.160 then as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.760 tells reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great. 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.800 The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes. 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.640 So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:50.960 stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars. 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:51.400 To see that. 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.800 Yeah, five hundred robberies in that area, mostly hitting nice places, 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.000 and she was upset about the guys told the cheap radio. 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.759 So we know she's not coming out with. 0:38:58.760 --> 0:38:59.840 Like totally anything. 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.880 Yeah, she's she's not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.920 waited a long time for this. A case like this 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.160 might come along once in an officer's. 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.480 Career, and a woman at that, and a. 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.680 Woman at that. But then look what I talked about 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.480 at the top of the episode. He had another lady burglar. 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.360 Yeah, totally. 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.600 Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said, quote, she changed 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.600 when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:28.640 is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind. 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:33.000 I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied, 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.399 I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.960 out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.000 years of the thirteen year sentence. 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.080 It was a non violent crime. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.520 Where is she now, Well, where is now? You tell me? 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.040 Thank you for not telling me yet. 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.720 As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So's 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:54.640 she's a white hat. 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.640 A white hat hacker, okay. 0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.719 I tried to find more follow up information on her, 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.160 and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay, 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.200 which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.719 by a different last name. So wherever she is, I 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.960 wish her god speed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:15.960 What's your ridiculous takeaway? 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:17.640 Florida? 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:19.160 Pretty much Florida. 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.759 I mean, I know honesty. Like I think I've said 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.360 this before. I have family in Florida. I used to 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.200 go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.520 It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.319 do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.239 of those people who's making fun of or wagging my 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.839 finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.040 Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.440 the same time, this place is wild. So the Florida 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:42.160 of it all like where you have like these old 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.520 people meeting up with all these like you know, recent 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.520 immigrants happy to like make it to American become really 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:48.600 proud Americans. 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.120 And then you have all these criminals that are going 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.200 this gives me a great place to hide out. 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.080 It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and like they 0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.680 talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's where the 0:40:58.680 --> 0:40:59.760 melting pot bubbles. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.239 Yeah. 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.640 And what I like about Florida is that lady executives 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.680 are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking around 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:07.960 in the wild all the time. 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.800 Is there's so many you lose count. You cannot count them, Elizabeth. 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.360 It's is lady executive four or five, real litter seventeen, 0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:16.359 I mean all over. 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.200 I don't have enough fingers for this. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:19.680 And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:20.440 driving cars. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.160 Yes, I saw one using money. It's crazy money, Elizabeth, 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.799 a lady professional. Her husband wasn't even there. 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.480 I know, but you know what, that's it's one of 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:31.719 those special things about us. 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.399 That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with. 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.080 The lady with the lady workers. That's us. 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.000 That's why I got for you Ridiculously. 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.439 It's wonderful. You can find us online at Ridiculous crime 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.760 dot com. 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