WEBVTT - Career Talk: Jalene explains how people fall victim to bad deals, and why contracts matter.

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<v Speaker 1>let's get this podcast started. My guest has an eagle

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<v Speaker 1>eye when it comes to reviewing bad contracts. Don't sign

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<v Speaker 1>a contract that can ruin your dream, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>a trademark registring expert. She has successfully integrated the demanding

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<v Speaker 1>roles of wife, mother, TV and film producer, writer, actress,

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<v Speaker 1>playwright and author. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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<v Speaker 1>America's favorite entertainment attorney, Jayleen Mack. How you doing, Jayleen?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? Hey, Hey, wow for having me back. Look, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to say thank you for having little

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<v Speaker 2>old me on your big old platform.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Well, you know it's time to get

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<v Speaker 1>down the business of you of just personally. They always

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I have a relationship with individuals who I

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<v Speaker 1>bring on the show. From a standpoint of my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with entertainment attorney Jayleen Mack, she has personally handled all

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<v Speaker 1>of my trademarks that I've done throughout my managing of

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Harvey and other clients and business associates I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>That relationship has been over at least twenty years, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Jayleen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when did you open up hip hop? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm talking talking about I'm talking about legally

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop was thirty two years. That's thirty two years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thirty two year. I'm talking about when you finally

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<v Speaker 1>got out of college, you know, with that plaque of

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being a I'm a lawyer officially, all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we started coming to me with Sean, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a shot, give me a shot, I can do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do this, And I gave you your shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been I've been turning you for registrations for

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<v Speaker 1>my trademarks and how important is it just to do

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<v Speaker 1>it right when it comes to trademark and protecting your brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but just to correct you, I started doing legal

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<v Speaker 2>work for you back then when you had hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to take you back. That's how old

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<v Speaker 2>you are, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, thank you, thank you very much. That's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>because because like I said, look, everybody a little history

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<v Speaker 1>on me. Nineteen ninety two, I had a comedy club

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<v Speaker 1>called very popular comic club in Houston, Texas called the

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<v Speaker 1>Hip Hop Comedy Stop. Everybody played that club, and even

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<v Speaker 1>that Beyonce and Destiny's Child performed at that club. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought them on stage one of the very first

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<v Speaker 1>performances with that club. But it was a who's who

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<v Speaker 1>of comedy entertainment that came through there, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities you know from you know, the Willie D's Garface.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who's who who in the Houston market as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a tour through town dropped into that comedy club.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I met Jayleen and her friends. They

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<v Speaker 1>really were rare instrumental in making my club a success

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping the doors open as they say, keep the

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<v Speaker 1>lights on, and that relationship that's about a relationship. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you developed something you don't know what is going to

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<v Speaker 1>mean five years or ten years from now. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we're on this show today talking about a career that

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<v Speaker 1>is basically international when it comes from your for your

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<v Speaker 1>legal service, could you tell some of the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you represent now or contractually or can you say that

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<v Speaker 1>on my show?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I represent a lot of in the general scheme

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<v Speaker 2>of things, actors, producers, writers, directors, arthurs, playwrights, film producers,

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<v Speaker 2>television producers. As far as some clients that I've represented

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<v Speaker 2>that mind me saying obviously I've done leave a work

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Greg Carter, who's a filmmaker. I've done work

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<v Speaker 2>for Kim Barell, Steve Harvey. Uh, just really tons of people,

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<v Speaker 2>even athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you when I called to Day about setting

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<v Speaker 1>up what this show is going to be about, and

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Miean, I really want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>lure of the bad deal. How people are will scam you,

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<v Speaker 1>even from an entrepreneurial standpoint, even from a film production standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>into how when you say the lure of the bad deal,

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<v Speaker 1>explain them all these exactly what that is and how

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<v Speaker 1>they can be trapped by.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you are a writer and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>script and you've been shopping for either a producer or

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<v Speaker 2>a financier, or you're a producer who has a script

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<v Speaker 2>and you've been shopping with the financier for some money

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<v Speaker 2>to get your movie made. Sometimes you'll come across people

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<v Speaker 2>who are not in the industry who want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry, or they claim to be in the industry,

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<v Speaker 2>but their credentials are not quite up to par, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they may represent that they have access to money

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<v Speaker 2>or endless amounts of money, and they entice that to

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation. Right, And sometimes it's about really the

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<v Speaker 2>association of a project that might put them on the

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<v Speaker 2>map as opposed to the other way around. Right. And

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<v Speaker 2>I say that because I've seen money people or alleged

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<v Speaker 2>money people offer funding and it'll be you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>could be hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. But

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<v Speaker 2>the more you dig, the more you realize they can't

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<v Speaker 2>show proof of funds, or the more you dig you

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<v Speaker 2>find out this person isn't legitimate because this business is big,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's small at the same time. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>ask enough question, or if you dig and you see

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<v Speaker 2>that the person you're dealing with doesn't have a digital

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<v Speaker 2>footprint right right, You can't go to IMDb, You can't

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<v Speaker 2>go to LinkedIn to find anything. Nothing out there. Right

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<v Speaker 2>You might look up the name and the face doesn't match,

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<v Speaker 2>or their credentials herely are similar to some executive right

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<v Speaker 2>at Netflix or whatever. I've seen all of that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But my point of identifying, just in a general sense

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<v Speaker 2>of people with a bad lure that ve due diligence

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<v Speaker 2>is everything.

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I've seen it all, you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and I've been fortune, unfortunate and fortunate to

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<v Speaker 1>see the good and the bad of that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes down to people excitement. They always always tell people,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get in this business with the lottery mentality, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that moment that that somebody's offered you is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one, the one that makes you a start,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that gives you a hit movie, the one

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make you rich. It's when you have that

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<v Speaker 1>lottery mentality. It's when you fall victim to these type

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<v Speaker 1>of scams on a regular basis. Because somebody can pull

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<v Speaker 1>up in a in a in a Rolls Roars that

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<v Speaker 1>could be rented. They can they can walk you to

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<v Speaker 1>a building untell you they're gonna shoot the movie here.

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<v Speaker 1>May not even have a relationship with that building. But

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<v Speaker 1>because you and the Rolls Rars, they've they've taken you

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<v Speaker 1>to a nice restaurant and now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>now you now they're gonna tell you they need a deposit.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna need a deposit from you. Now, Okay, they sold,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to supply the funding that, but they're asking

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<v Speaker 1>you for a deposit, so they're gonna put in they

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<v Speaker 1>say xcro escrow. Escrow is a dangerous turn because if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have control of that signature on the escrow

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<v Speaker 1>account then gets what they're gonna control the money. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really important that in this business. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bringing an expert like attorney Jayleen mack On here to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that I can say that, but she

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<v Speaker 1>can verify that correct early.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I'm gonna tell you what I've seen as the

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<v Speaker 2>latest trend. Some company represents themselves as a production company

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<v Speaker 2>with relationships to all the networks, and they'll say that

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<v Speaker 2>their contact at ABC Company wants to buy a particular

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<v Speaker 2>script from some producer. Right there's already a dollar amount.

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<v Speaker 2>The script hasn't been received by that executive nor read,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's already an offer on the table. And the

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<v Speaker 2>middle company, the production company, is telling this producer with

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<v Speaker 2>the script that you need to sign this contract attached

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<v Speaker 2>to us and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be able to close this deal for you right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And they never put and never are all three parties

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<v Speaker 2>in one room, if that makes any sense to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you keep talking to the same person and they

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking to the other person that you never see.

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<v Speaker 2>That you never see, and the way the contract reads,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to assign copyright to that script, to that

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<v Speaker 2>production company, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Means they now have rights to your project. Here there

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<v Speaker 1>clearly now, what you don't ever want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>give away rights to your project, and so when you

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<v Speaker 1>try to get the rights back, you don't have rights anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So your dream project, your dream idea, you're you know

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<v Speaker 1>your I've been working on this thing for fifteen, ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years. Idea came to me a miracle of God,

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<v Speaker 1>moment told me to write this book. It's gone because

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<v Speaker 1>you've signed away your rights. And I'm gonna tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get it back. You cannot get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Those deals that they have you signed an iron clad

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why she's telling you. When I say she,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking at attorney Jayleen Mack is telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>do your research. Don't get so excited that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment of moments. Don't ignore other people telling you, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are you moving too fast? What do you know about

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<v Speaker 1>this person? Listen to people who have common sense that

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<v Speaker 1>will lead you from making a bad mistake. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>which leads what you say into bad contracts. And you

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot, unfortunately, you see a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 1>contracts in your life. When it comes to entertainers.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that, Well, some people just don't put the

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<v Speaker 2>money aside, you know, put a budget aside to hire

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<v Speaker 2>a lawyer. And it's because, well, you know, I've google

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<v Speaker 2>some information on Google, or I saw a template on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet, and I feel like, I know it nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need a layer to take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>this deal. That's one approach, right. I've seen also cases

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<v Speaker 2>where they hire the wrong lawyer to rede the deal. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and even can you telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Me somebody who is a corporate lawyer over here trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do an entertainment contractor somebody who's a patent lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do a contract for a movie, a contract

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<v Speaker 1>for a television or talent contract. And so so all

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<v Speaker 1>your cousins, who got this good rate is gonna do go,

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<v Speaker 1>do you a solid and do this. But what got

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<v Speaker 1>me was you saying Rashan. Their people go online, they

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<v Speaker 1>will download the contract as a template. They google to

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<v Speaker 1>contract for actors, a contract for writers, a contract for

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<v Speaker 1>TV or fan producers, and they say that's their contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right. And the thing with template, it might be

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<v Speaker 2>a good starting point, but it's not necessarily where you're in, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to know how to navigate the language.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know what's missing. You have to know

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<v Speaker 2>what's there, whether or not, whether or not that's applicable

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<v Speaker 2>to your situation, and the best best thing to do

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<v Speaker 2>if you are not a season producer with the experience

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe over time you've seen enough good contracts because

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<v Speaker 2>you've had representation right, and maybe you're using the same

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<v Speaker 2>template and and so and and and pretty much everything's

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<v Speaker 2>the same except maybe the compensation and the and the actors.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be able to make some changes and get

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<v Speaker 2>away with it, but rarely is any contract or repeat

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<v Speaker 2>deal right to the t R. So, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you feel like, well, I can draft the

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<v Speaker 2>initial contract and I feel like it looks pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>I would still hire my lawyer to lay last eyes

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<v Speaker 2>on it, right right, that's the best thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back for more

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<v Speaker 1>Making Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, x and Instagram. Well it's

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<v Speaker 1>starting with number one. You said identify your project.

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<v Speaker 2>Please explain, so I can tell you we're specifically talking

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<v Speaker 2>about film and television as far as the entertainment industry,

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<v Speaker 2>but really this applies to music and other areas of entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also applies for any entrepreneur what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if you're, you know, selling candles, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this will be beneficial to you. So so when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to projects, obviously in the film world, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to identify or used shooting a movie, a feature film,

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<v Speaker 2>or a short. Will this be a scripted project or unscripted?

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<v Speaker 2>In the television world, for instance, is it a documentary?

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<v Speaker 2>You just want to identify what is it that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do, because that's going to go into how

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<v Speaker 2>you develop that concept. If you're a hire writer, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to write it yourself, this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>lead to how much money I need. So the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing is to identify what it is you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really really important as if you're an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that I have a company and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of people with a lot of products,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of people different different small business visions,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't know what the point of view of

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<v Speaker 1>the vision, of the point of view of the business,

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<v Speaker 1>and so identify your project. Number two is make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you have a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like across the board, in any business, it is

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<v Speaker 2>best to have a business plan. Even if you are

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<v Speaker 2>financing your endeavor personally, you still want to have a roadmap,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what the business plan will do for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and particularly people in film and television that are independent producers.

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<v Speaker 2>You also want to have a finance plan. So not

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<v Speaker 2>just a business plan to give you the roadmap of

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<v Speaker 2>how to get your project done, but a finance plan

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<v Speaker 2>will help you identify where the money comes from, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes in, how it's going to be applied, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to get your project done, on the

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<v Speaker 2>development and concept, through sale and distribution of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>again that helps with any entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to agree with that on so many levels.

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<v Speaker 1>I get so mad at people. I see the word

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<v Speaker 1>mad people coming. I got this idea. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>ideas not registered. It's just an idea. It's not flushed out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as the character developments in the projects not

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<v Speaker 1>flushed out. I don't know how many characters you got,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the lead? Have you developed a relationship with a star?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's to start the project? It's just a great idea

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<v Speaker 1>to get mad. It's a great idea. Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's not great idea. I'm just telling you help

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<v Speaker 1>me out because right now it's an idea. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>build on your your dream if I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your plan? And that's also people do that with business.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to I got some biscuits. They're the best

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<v Speaker 1>biscuits in the world. Okay, how you gonna how are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna manufacture these biscuits? If if a thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>walk through that door today, how you gonna manage what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do? How many employees you're gonna have?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that for a fact out of comedy club.

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<v Speaker 1>Comedy club started with just my relatives manning the doors.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to do it for free. Right then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I started making a little money. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted checks. I didn't budget to pay my relatives.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't budget for that. I didn't have a plan

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<v Speaker 1>and play it. I just wanted to tell jokes, invite

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<v Speaker 1>people in for ten dollars, which eventually I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the state wanted day tax money, so I would It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't getting ten dollars. I didn't have a plan. So

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<v Speaker 1>when she talks about both ways, she can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, but it all comes back to business

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<v Speaker 1>business now. Number three is former team girl. I got

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<v Speaker 1>something to say after you talk about this form aighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number three. Number one was identify your project. Number

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<v Speaker 1>two make sure you have a plan. Number three form

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<v Speaker 1>A teen.

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<v Speaker 2>So so important. I just made this comment at the

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<v Speaker 2>essence best talking to the audience. If you're a producer,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be the smartest producer. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to know everything. Every experience is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>something you learn from. But if you are putting together

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<v Speaker 2>a team, make sure you build a team that makes

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<v Speaker 2>you the best producer you can be. Right, So, you

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<v Speaker 2>surround yourself with talent. You surround yourself with people who

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<v Speaker 2>know more than you. Right. You also surround yourself with

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<v Speaker 2>people who are not yes people, because you need to

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<v Speaker 2>know the pitfalls, you need to know the pros and cons,

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<v Speaker 2>and you need people around you they help you make

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<v Speaker 2>the best business decisions you can make keeping in mind

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<v Speaker 2>the best interest for your project. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 2>not just your projects, but you have investors to pay back.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's super important that you use to on yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with other good producers, with a good lawyer, a good accountant,

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<v Speaker 2>a good pr team find the best scenario when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to a financier that makes sense for your project.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to get money from other places, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can go on, but the key is put together

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<v Speaker 2>a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>You better believe it. I didn't have an accountant, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have an HR person. I told my wife we

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<v Speaker 1>pulled money out of retirement at the time, savings didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a budget attacked. Let me not jump the gun

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm about to say budget and that's number four,

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<v Speaker 1>prepare a budget. So I don't want to slide into

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<v Speaker 1>that too much without you comment on it. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a former team, you gotta prepare a budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you about that attorney map absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you know what it is you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do right, Let's say you're trying to make a movie,

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<v Speaker 2>produce a product or project, you obviously have to have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's good at putting budgets together. Who can identify

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<v Speaker 2>the needs and services and how much things cost and

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<v Speaker 2>the best route to take to get these things done,

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<v Speaker 2>to put a budget together. So it's not a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, well, I want to shoot a movie and

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<v Speaker 2>I think a thousand dollars is enough, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you want somebody experience in what things cost, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is a line producer in the film business that'll

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<v Speaker 2>do that for you, because it's important to know if

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<v Speaker 2>your movie has special effects, is it has special video effects?

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<v Speaker 2>Are there cars being blown up or is there a

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<v Speaker 2>car change? Are there fight seems to be choreographed? Everything

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<v Speaker 2>has a costs, hotels, locations, feeding people, you got crew, actors, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those things have to be identified in a

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<v Speaker 2>budget and if you've never done it before, don't take

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<v Speaker 2>a stab at it. Hire the right people to do

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<v Speaker 2>the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. You know, it's really funny people when you start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about budget and people the right teammate. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you open a Mexican restaurant and you hire somebody

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<v Speaker 1>the cook he knows I do soul food. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you got to have the right people doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're opening the bakery and that person all they know

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<v Speaker 1>how to do is cook pies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. They can't do nothing else at your baking.

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<v Speaker 1>But they told you they know how to bake. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that resume going to the right place. I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to run short on time, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a couple of things I think they need

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<v Speaker 1>to have. No we talked about number one, identify your project.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is make sure you have a plan. Number

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<v Speaker 1>three is formed my team. Number four we just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the prepare budget. Number five is form a business entity.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing there? Number six is get a

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<v Speaker 1>EI in number for your business. Number seven open a

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<v Speaker 1>business account, not your personal account, your business account. Number

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<v Speaker 1>eight Protect your assets. Number nine. The floor is yours contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, we know. Everything should be reduced to writing.

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<v Speaker 2>It should represent what you negotiated. Obviously, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>protect your intellectual property, your interest in ownership, Every aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of the four walls of the agreement should be considered.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again, I would not rely on myself to

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<v Speaker 2>prepare a contract. I would go to the experts, such

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<v Speaker 2>as a lawyer that is experienced in your area. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, even if you have an entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>related matter. Not all entertainment attorneys are equal, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a film producer, not all entertainment attorneys no film

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<v Speaker 2>and television production, which is a whole other language. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you get a lawyer who's very experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>what it is you're trying to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the last one, you got your business open, you

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<v Speaker 1>got your movie marketing. You know, people think they can

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<v Speaker 1>just open a door, tell everybody they got great food,

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<v Speaker 1>and people just gonna line up and show up. People

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<v Speaker 1>think they got a great movie project. They're gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know that in the theater and we ready to go. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really think it's really, really really important that

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<v Speaker 1>people understand what's going on here when you're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>put together these assets when you go down this top

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<v Speaker 1>ten list. Marketing is the key, and it can create

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<v Speaker 1>so much drama if you don't understand what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>because you didn't know what your brand was, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what your point. You didn't iventify your project, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a plan, you did to have a team around. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't prepare a budget, budget didn't include marketing. You never

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<v Speaker 1>have a business entity, you never got a business number.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still operating out of your personal checking account. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't protect your assets. I want to say, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to allow you to comment on that, and I say allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you should talk. We should tell people

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<v Speaker 1>how do you protect your assets?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? So, obviously you have intellectual property, so you may

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<v Speaker 2>have a copyright that you need to protect, a trademark.

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<v Speaker 2>In some instances, someone might have a patent. Doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>apply here. As far as your scripts are concerned, you

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<v Speaker 2>can register them with the United States Copyright Office, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can deposit them with the Writers Guild of America

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<v Speaker 2>East or West. You want to do everything you can

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<v Speaker 2>to obviously protect your interests. Other things to consider are

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<v Speaker 2>non disclosure agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Non disclosure agreement NDA. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? And NDA a non disclosed disclose your agreement And

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<v Speaker 2>that deals with confidentiality, uh, between you and another party

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<v Speaker 2>as to business. You know, discussions that you have between

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<v Speaker 2>the two of you. You may want to protect some

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<v Speaker 2>of the content that comes out of that. That could

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<v Speaker 2>be your client list, that could be some trade secrets, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that you wouldn't want the general public to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, ideas right, you would want to NDA. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you an NDA is a deterrent, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is not iron class. And the reason why I say

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people will exchange in n DA.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sign my the NDA, I'll sign yours. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be mutual. That's great, but it doesn't really speak

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<v Speaker 2>to pillow talk, right. And the only reason you would

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<v Speaker 2>know somebody breached in n DA is if you hear

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<v Speaker 2>about it or you hear it from a third party.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't do away with what I call pillow talk.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the whispers, right, and that that's always concerning

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and so I always like clients to know

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<v Speaker 2>that NDA is a deterring factor, but it's but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not fool proof.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, this has been great information I would have won.

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<v Speaker 1>And appreciate you well, friend, thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Thank you for giving more wisdom you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I do not lie when I say America's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite entertainment attorney Jaylee Mack based out of Houston, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's worldwide. She's worldwide, from Dubai to New York

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<v Speaker 1>to Houston to Mexico. She's there doing her job and

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<v Speaker 1>changing the game. More important to keeping people out of

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<v Speaker 1>bad contracts and maybe become people aware of that there

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<v Speaker 1>good deal does not mean there are It is a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal. I talked to you soon, Attorney Mac. Thank you,

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