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Speaker 1: a contract that can ruin your dream, and she is
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Speaker 1: America's favorite entertainment attorney, Jayleen Mack. How you doing, Jayleen?
Speaker 2: Hey? Hey, Hey, wow for having me back. Look, well,
Speaker 2: I really want to say thank you for having little
Speaker 2: old me on your big old platform.
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, you know it's time to get
Speaker 1: down the business of you of just personally. They always
Speaker 1: tell you, I have a relationship with individuals who I
Speaker 1: bring on the show. From a standpoint of my relationship
Speaker 1: with entertainment attorney Jayleen Mack, she has personally handled all
Speaker 1: of my trademarks that I've done throughout my managing of
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and other clients and business associates I've had.
Speaker 1: That relationship has been over at least twenty years, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you say, Jayleen.
Speaker 2: Yes, when did you open up hip hop? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm talking talking about I'm talking about legally
Speaker 1: hip hop was thirty two years. That's thirty two years.
Speaker 1: That's thirty two year. I'm talking about when you finally
Speaker 1: got out of college, you know, with that plaque of
Speaker 1: I'm being a I'm a lawyer officially, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Then we started coming to me with Sean, give me
Speaker 1: a shot, give me a shot, I can do this,
Speaker 1: I can do this, And I gave you your shot,
Speaker 1: and we've been I've been turning you for registrations for
Speaker 1: my trademarks and how important is it just to do
Speaker 1: it right when it comes to trademark and protecting your brand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just to correct you, I started doing legal
Speaker 2: work for you back then when you had hip hop.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to take you back. That's how old
Speaker 2: you are, not me.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, thank you, thank you very much. That's absolutely
Speaker 1: because because like I said, look, everybody a little history
Speaker 1: on me. Nineteen ninety two, I had a comedy club
Speaker 1: called very popular comic club in Houston, Texas called the
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Comedy Stop. Everybody played that club, and even
Speaker 1: that Beyonce and Destiny's Child performed at that club. In fact,
Speaker 1: I brought them on stage one of the very first
Speaker 1: performances with that club. But it was a who's who
Speaker 1: of comedy entertainment that came through there, as well as
Speaker 1: celebrities you know from you know, the Willie D's Garface.
Speaker 1: Everybody who's who who in the Houston market as well
Speaker 1: as a tour through town dropped into that comedy club.
Speaker 1: And that's why I met Jayleen and her friends. They
Speaker 1: really were rare instrumental in making my club a success
Speaker 1: and keeping the doors open as they say, keep the
Speaker 1: lights on, and that relationship that's about a relationship. You know,
Speaker 1: you developed something you don't know what is going to
Speaker 1: mean five years or ten years from now. And now
Speaker 1: we're on this show today talking about a career that
Speaker 1: is basically international when it comes from your for your
Speaker 1: legal service, could you tell some of the people that
Speaker 1: you represent now or contractually or can you say that
Speaker 1: on my show?
Speaker 2: Well, I represent a lot of in the general scheme
Speaker 2: of things, actors, producers, writers, directors, arthurs, playwrights, film producers,
Speaker 2: television producers. As far as some clients that I've represented
Speaker 2: that mind me saying obviously I've done leave a work
Speaker 2: for you, Greg Carter, who's a filmmaker. I've done work
Speaker 2: for Kim Barell, Steve Harvey. Uh, just really tons of people,
Speaker 2: even athletes.
Speaker 1: Now, when you when I called to Day about setting
Speaker 1: up what this show is going to be about, and
Speaker 1: you said, Miean, I really want to talk about the
Speaker 1: lure of the bad deal. How people are will scam you,
Speaker 1: even from an entrepreneurial standpoint, even from a film production standpoint,
Speaker 1: into how when you say the lure of the bad deal,
Speaker 1: explain them all these exactly what that is and how
Speaker 1: they can be trapped by.
Speaker 2: So, if you are a writer and you have a
Speaker 2: script and you've been shopping for either a producer or
Speaker 2: a financier, or you're a producer who has a script
Speaker 2: and you've been shopping with the financier for some money
Speaker 2: to get your movie made. Sometimes you'll come across people
Speaker 2: who are not in the industry who want to be
Speaker 2: in the industry, or they claim to be in the industry,
Speaker 2: but their credentials are not quite up to par, and
Speaker 2: so they may represent that they have access to money
Speaker 2: or endless amounts of money, and they entice that to
Speaker 2: have a conversation. Right, And sometimes it's about really the
Speaker 2: association of a project that might put them on the
Speaker 2: map as opposed to the other way around. Right. And
Speaker 2: I say that because I've seen money people or alleged
Speaker 2: money people offer funding and it'll be you know, it
Speaker 2: could be hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. But
Speaker 2: the more you dig, the more you realize they can't
Speaker 2: show proof of funds, or the more you dig you
Speaker 2: find out this person isn't legitimate because this business is big,
Speaker 2: but it's small at the same time. So if you
Speaker 2: ask enough question, or if you dig and you see
Speaker 2: that the person you're dealing with doesn't have a digital
Speaker 2: footprint right right, You can't go to IMDb, You can't
Speaker 2: go to LinkedIn to find anything. Nothing out there. Right
Speaker 2: You might look up the name and the face doesn't match,
Speaker 2: or their credentials herely are similar to some executive right
Speaker 2: at Netflix or whatever. I've seen all of that happen.
Speaker 2: But my point of identifying, just in a general sense
Speaker 2: of people with a bad lure that ve due diligence
Speaker 2: is everything.
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Speaker 1: into it. I've seen it all, you know when you
Speaker 1: do that, and I've been fortune, unfortunate and fortunate to
Speaker 1: see the good and the bad of that, and it
Speaker 1: all comes down to people excitement. They always always tell people,
Speaker 1: don't get in this business with the lottery mentality, meaning
Speaker 1: that moment that that somebody's offered you is going to
Speaker 1: be the one, the one that makes you a start,
Speaker 1: the one that gives you a hit movie, the one
Speaker 1: they're gonna make you rich. It's when you have that
Speaker 1: lottery mentality. It's when you fall victim to these type
Speaker 1: of scams on a regular basis. Because somebody can pull
Speaker 1: up in a in a in a Rolls Roars that
Speaker 1: could be rented. They can they can walk you to
Speaker 1: a building untell you they're gonna shoot the movie here.
Speaker 1: May not even have a relationship with that building. But
Speaker 1: because you and the Rolls Rars, they've they've taken you
Speaker 1: to a nice restaurant and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now you now they're gonna tell you they need a deposit.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need a deposit from you. Now, Okay, they sold,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to supply the funding that, but they're asking
Speaker 1: you for a deposit, so they're gonna put in they
Speaker 1: say xcro escrow. Escrow is a dangerous turn because if
Speaker 1: you don't have control of that signature on the escrow
Speaker 1: account then gets what they're gonna control the money. And
Speaker 1: so it's really important that in this business. And I'm
Speaker 1: bringing an expert like attorney Jayleen mack On here to
Speaker 1: let you know that I can say that, but she
Speaker 1: can verify that correct early.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm gonna tell you what I've seen as the
Speaker 2: latest trend. Some company represents themselves as a production company
Speaker 2: with relationships to all the networks, and they'll say that
Speaker 2: their contact at ABC Company wants to buy a particular
Speaker 2: script from some producer. Right there's already a dollar amount.
Speaker 2: The script hasn't been received by that executive nor read,
Speaker 2: but there's already an offer on the table. And the
Speaker 2: middle company, the production company, is telling this producer with
Speaker 2: the script that you need to sign this contract attached
Speaker 2: to us and uh.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: We'll be able to close this deal for you right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And they never put and never are all three parties
Speaker 2: in one room, if that makes any sense to you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you keep talking to the same person and they
Speaker 1: keep talking to the other person that you never see.
Speaker 2: That you never see, and the way the contract reads,
Speaker 2: you have to assign copyright to that script, to that
Speaker 2: production company, which.
Speaker 1: Means they now have rights to your project. Here there
Speaker 1: clearly now, what you don't ever want to do is
Speaker 1: give away rights to your project, and so when you
Speaker 1: try to get the rights back, you don't have rights anymore.
Speaker 1: So your dream project, your dream idea, you're you know
Speaker 1: your I've been working on this thing for fifteen, ten years.
Speaker 1: Five years. Idea came to me a miracle of God,
Speaker 1: moment told me to write this book. It's gone because
Speaker 1: you've signed away your rights. And I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: You can't get it back. You cannot get it back.
Speaker 1: Those deals that they have you signed an iron clad
Speaker 1: And that's why she's telling you. When I say she,
Speaker 1: I'm talking at attorney Jayleen Mack is telling you that
Speaker 1: do your research. Don't get so excited that this is
Speaker 1: the moment of moments. Don't ignore other people telling you, hey,
Speaker 1: are you moving too fast? What do you know about
Speaker 1: this person? Listen to people who have common sense that
Speaker 1: will lead you from making a bad mistake. And that's
Speaker 1: which leads what you say into bad contracts. And you
Speaker 1: see a lot, unfortunately, you see a lot of bad
Speaker 1: contracts in your life. When it comes to entertainers.
Speaker 2: Why is that, Well, some people just don't put the
Speaker 2: money aside, you know, put a budget aside to hire
Speaker 2: a lawyer. And it's because, well, you know, I've google
Speaker 2: some information on Google, or I saw a template on
Speaker 2: the internet, and I feel like, I know it nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't need a layer to take a look at
Speaker 2: this deal. That's one approach, right. I've seen also cases
Speaker 2: where they hire the wrong lawyer to rede the deal. So, uh,
Speaker 2: and even can you telling.
Speaker 1: Me somebody who is a corporate lawyer over here trying
Speaker 1: to do an entertainment contractor somebody who's a patent lawyer
Speaker 1: trying to do a contract for a movie, a contract
Speaker 1: for a television or talent contract. And so so all
Speaker 1: your cousins, who got this good rate is gonna do go,
Speaker 1: do you a solid and do this. But what got
Speaker 1: me was you saying Rashan. Their people go online, they
Speaker 1: will download the contract as a template. They google to
Speaker 1: contract for actors, a contract for writers, a contract for
Speaker 1: TV or fan producers, and they say that's their contract.
Speaker 2: Right, right. And the thing with template, it might be
Speaker 2: a good starting point, but it's not necessarily where you're in, right,
Speaker 2: So you have to know how to navigate the language.
Speaker 2: You have to know what's missing. You have to know
Speaker 2: what's there, whether or not, whether or not that's applicable
Speaker 2: to your situation, and the best best thing to do
Speaker 2: if you are not a season producer with the experience
Speaker 2: that maybe over time you've seen enough good contracts because
Speaker 2: you've had representation right, and maybe you're using the same
Speaker 2: template and and so and and and pretty much everything's
Speaker 2: the same except maybe the compensation and the and the actors.
Speaker 2: You might be able to make some changes and get
Speaker 2: away with it, but rarely is any contract or repeat
Speaker 2: deal right to the t R. So, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: even if you feel like, well, I can draft the
Speaker 2: initial contract and I feel like it looks pretty good,
Speaker 2: I would still hire my lawyer to lay last eyes
Speaker 2: on it, right right, that's the best thing to do.
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Speaker 1: starting with number one. You said identify your project.
Speaker 2: Please explain, so I can tell you we're specifically talking
Speaker 2: about film and television as far as the entertainment industry,
Speaker 2: but really this applies to music and other areas of entertainment.
Speaker 2: But it also applies for any entrepreneur what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So even if you're, you know, selling candles, a lot
Speaker 2: of this will be beneficial to you. So so when
Speaker 2: it comes to projects, obviously in the film world, you
Speaker 2: want to identify or used shooting a movie, a feature film,
Speaker 2: or a short. Will this be a scripted project or unscripted?
Speaker 2: In the television world, for instance, is it a documentary?
Speaker 2: You just want to identify what is it that I'm
Speaker 2: trying to do, because that's going to go into how
Speaker 2: you develop that concept. If you're a hire writer, if
Speaker 2: you're going to write it yourself, this is going to
Speaker 2: lead to how much money I need. So the first
Speaker 2: thing is to identify what it is you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: And that's really really important as if you're an entrepreneur
Speaker 1: because of the fact that I have a company and
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people with a lot of products,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people different different small business visions,
Speaker 1: but they don't know what the point of view of
Speaker 1: the vision, of the point of view of the business,
Speaker 1: and so identify your project. Number two is make sure
Speaker 1: you have a plan.
Speaker 2: Yes, like across the board, in any business, it is
Speaker 2: best to have a business plan. Even if you are
Speaker 2: financing your endeavor personally, you still want to have a roadmap,
Speaker 2: and that's what the business plan will do for you,
Speaker 2: and particularly people in film and television that are independent producers.
Speaker 2: You also want to have a finance plan. So not
Speaker 2: just a business plan to give you the roadmap of
Speaker 2: how to get your project done, but a finance plan
Speaker 2: will help you identify where the money comes from, when
Speaker 2: it comes in, how it's going to be applied, how
Speaker 2: are you going to get your project done, on the
Speaker 2: development and concept, through sale and distribution of it. And
Speaker 2: again that helps with any entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I have to agree with that on so many levels.
Speaker 1: I get so mad at people. I see the word
Speaker 1: mad people coming. I got this idea. First of all,
Speaker 1: ideas not registered. It's just an idea. It's not flushed out,
Speaker 1: you know, as the character developments in the projects not
Speaker 1: flushed out. I don't know how many characters you got,
Speaker 1: who's the lead? Have you developed a relationship with a star?
Speaker 1: Who's to start the project? It's just a great idea
Speaker 1: to get mad. It's a great idea. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's not great idea. I'm just telling you help
Speaker 1: me out because right now it's an idea. I can't
Speaker 1: build on your your dream if I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: What's your plan? And that's also people do that with business.
Speaker 1: They want to I got some biscuits. They're the best
Speaker 1: biscuits in the world. Okay, how you gonna how are
Speaker 1: you gonna manufacture these biscuits? If if a thousand people
Speaker 1: walk through that door today, how you gonna manage what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do? How many employees you're gonna have?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact out of comedy club.
Speaker 1: Comedy club started with just my relatives manning the doors.
Speaker 1: They used to do it for free. Right then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I started making a little money. Then
Speaker 1: they wanted checks. I didn't budget to pay my relatives.
Speaker 1: I didn't budget for that. I didn't have a plan
Speaker 1: and play it. I just wanted to tell jokes, invite
Speaker 1: people in for ten dollars, which eventually I realized that
Speaker 1: the state wanted day tax money, so I would It
Speaker 1: wasn't getting ten dollars. I didn't have a plan. So
Speaker 1: when she talks about both ways, she can talk about
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, but it all comes back to business
Speaker 1: business now. Number three is former team girl. I got
Speaker 1: something to say after you talk about this form aighteen.
Speaker 1: That's number three. Number one was identify your project. Number
Speaker 1: two make sure you have a plan. Number three form
Speaker 1: A teen.
Speaker 2: So so important. I just made this comment at the
Speaker 2: essence best talking to the audience. If you're a producer,
Speaker 2: you don't have to be the smartest producer. You don't
Speaker 2: have to know everything. Every experience is going to be
Speaker 2: something you learn from. But if you are putting together
Speaker 2: a team, make sure you build a team that makes
Speaker 2: you the best producer you can be. Right, So, you
Speaker 2: surround yourself with talent. You surround yourself with people who
Speaker 2: know more than you. Right. You also surround yourself with
Speaker 2: people who are not yes people, because you need to
Speaker 2: know the pitfalls, you need to know the pros and cons,
Speaker 2: and you need people around you they help you make
Speaker 2: the best business decisions you can make keeping in mind
Speaker 2: the best interest for your project. And not only that,
Speaker 2: not just your projects, but you have investors to pay back.
Speaker 2: So it's super important that you use to on yourself
Speaker 2: with other good producers, with a good lawyer, a good accountant,
Speaker 2: a good pr team find the best scenario when it
Speaker 2: comes to a financier that makes sense for your project.
Speaker 2: If you're going to get money from other places, and
Speaker 2: I can go on, but the key is put together
Speaker 2: a good team.
Speaker 1: You better believe it. I didn't have an accountant, I
Speaker 1: didn't have an HR person. I told my wife we
Speaker 1: pulled money out of retirement at the time, savings didn't
Speaker 1: have a budget attacked. Let me not jump the gun
Speaker 1: because I'm about to say budget and that's number four,
Speaker 1: prepare a budget. So I don't want to slide into
Speaker 1: that too much without you comment on it. Because if
Speaker 1: you're on a former team, you gotta prepare a budget.
Speaker 1: Talk to you about that attorney map absolutely.
Speaker 2: So if you know what it is you're trying to
Speaker 2: do right, Let's say you're trying to make a movie,
Speaker 2: produce a product or project, you obviously have to have
Speaker 2: somebody who's good at putting budgets together. Who can identify
Speaker 2: the needs and services and how much things cost and
Speaker 2: the best route to take to get these things done,
Speaker 2: to put a budget together. So it's not a matter
Speaker 2: of saying, well, I want to shoot a movie and
Speaker 2: I think a thousand dollars is enough, right, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously you want somebody experience in what things cost, and
Speaker 2: that is a line producer in the film business that'll
Speaker 2: do that for you, because it's important to know if
Speaker 2: your movie has special effects, is it has special video effects?
Speaker 2: Are there cars being blown up or is there a
Speaker 2: car change? Are there fight seems to be choreographed? Everything
Speaker 2: has a costs, hotels, locations, feeding people, you got crew, actors, etc.
Speaker 2: All of those things have to be identified in a
Speaker 2: budget and if you've never done it before, don't take
Speaker 2: a stab at it. Hire the right people to do
Speaker 2: the job.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know, it's really funny people when you start
Speaker 1: talking about budget and people the right teammate. You know,
Speaker 1: if you open a Mexican restaurant and you hire somebody
Speaker 1: the cook he knows I do soul food. You know
Speaker 1: you got to have the right people doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: You're opening the bakery and that person all they know
Speaker 1: how to do is cook pies.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's it. They can't do nothing else at your baking.
Speaker 1: But they told you they know how to bake. It's
Speaker 1: that resume going to the right place. I know we're
Speaker 1: going to run short on time, but I want to
Speaker 1: get to a couple of things I think they need
Speaker 1: to have. No we talked about number one, identify your project.
Speaker 1: Number two is make sure you have a plan. Number
Speaker 1: three is formed my team. Number four we just talked
Speaker 1: about the prepare budget. Number five is form a business entity.
Speaker 1: What are you doing there? Number six is get a
Speaker 1: EI in number for your business. Number seven open a
Speaker 1: business account, not your personal account, your business account. Number
Speaker 1: eight Protect your assets. Number nine. The floor is yours contracts.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, we know. Everything should be reduced to writing.
Speaker 2: It should represent what you negotiated. Obviously, you want to
Speaker 2: protect your intellectual property, your interest in ownership, Every aspect
Speaker 2: of the four walls of the agreement should be considered.
Speaker 2: And once again, I would not rely on myself to
Speaker 2: prepare a contract. I would go to the experts, such
Speaker 2: as a lawyer that is experienced in your area. And
Speaker 2: I will say this, even if you have an entertainment
Speaker 2: related matter. Not all entertainment attorneys are equal, and if
Speaker 2: you're a film producer, not all entertainment attorneys no film
Speaker 2: and television production, which is a whole other language. So again,
Speaker 2: make sure you get a lawyer who's very experienced in
Speaker 2: what it is you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 1: Now, the last one, you got your business open, you
Speaker 1: got your movie marketing. You know, people think they can
Speaker 1: just open a door, tell everybody they got great food,
Speaker 1: and people just gonna line up and show up. People
Speaker 1: think they got a great movie project. They're gonna let
Speaker 1: everybody know that in the theater and we ready to go. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I really think it's really, really really important that
Speaker 1: people understand what's going on here when you're starting to
Speaker 1: put together these assets when you go down this top
Speaker 1: ten list. Marketing is the key, and it can create
Speaker 1: so much drama if you don't understand what's going on
Speaker 1: because you didn't know what your brand was, you know
Speaker 1: what your point. You didn't iventify your project, you have
Speaker 1: a plan, you did to have a team around. You
Speaker 1: didn't prepare a budget, budget didn't include marketing. You never
Speaker 1: have a business entity, you never got a business number.
Speaker 1: You're still operating out of your personal checking account. You
Speaker 1: didn't protect your assets. I want to say, I want
Speaker 1: to allow you to comment on that, and I say allowed,
Speaker 1: But I think you should talk. We should tell people
Speaker 1: how do you protect your assets?
Speaker 2: Sure? So, obviously you have intellectual property, so you may
Speaker 2: have a copyright that you need to protect, a trademark.
Speaker 2: In some instances, someone might have a patent. Doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: apply here. As far as your scripts are concerned, you
Speaker 2: can register them with the United States Copyright Office, or
Speaker 2: you can deposit them with the Writers Guild of America
Speaker 2: East or West. You want to do everything you can
Speaker 2: to obviously protect your interests. Other things to consider are
Speaker 2: non disclosure agreement.
Speaker 1: Right, Non disclosure agreement NDA. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yes? And NDA a non disclosed disclose your agreement And
Speaker 2: that deals with confidentiality, uh, between you and another party
Speaker 2: as to business. You know, discussions that you have between
Speaker 2: the two of you. You may want to protect some
Speaker 2: of the content that comes out of that. That could
Speaker 2: be your client list, that could be some trade secrets, uh,
Speaker 2: anything that you wouldn't want the general public to know.
Speaker 2: You know, ideas right, you would want to NDA. Now
Speaker 2: I'll tell you an NDA is a deterrent, but it
Speaker 2: is not iron class. And the reason why I say
Speaker 2: that a lot of people will exchange in n DA.
Speaker 2: You know, sign my the NDA, I'll sign yours. It
Speaker 2: could be mutual. That's great, but it doesn't really speak
Speaker 2: to pillow talk, right. And the only reason you would
Speaker 2: know somebody breached in n DA is if you hear
Speaker 2: about it or you hear it from a third party.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't do away with what I call pillow talk.
Speaker 2: You know the whispers, right, and that that's always concerning
Speaker 2: for me, and so I always like clients to know
Speaker 2: that NDA is a deterring factor, but it's but it's
Speaker 2: not fool proof.
Speaker 1: Wow, this has been great information I would have won.
Speaker 1: And appreciate you well, friend, thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for giving more wisdom you want
Speaker 1: to say. I do not lie when I say America's
Speaker 1: favorite entertainment attorney Jaylee Mack based out of Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: but she's worldwide. She's worldwide, from Dubai to New York
Speaker 1: to Houston to Mexico. She's there doing her job and
Speaker 1: changing the game. More important to keeping people out of
Speaker 1: bad contracts and maybe become people aware of that there
Speaker 1: are scams out there. Just because it sounds like a
Speaker 1: good deal does not mean there are It is a
Speaker 1: good deal. I talked to you soon, Attorney Mac. Thank you,
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