1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three five and 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan picked up by the Colts. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: Twenty bore thirty twenty down the dear sideline, head up 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: the Taylor right up the gun and he's there down 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: We're talking Colts and recapping the action YO sixty two yards. Now. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. Welcome to 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live tonight, brought to you by Citizens Energy Group, 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Colts conservation partner. Find winning conservation 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: tips at Citizens Energy Group dot com. I'm Matt Taylor, 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: with you until seven o'clock tonight. We're talking about the 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Colts and a big shake up today with the Indianapolis Colts. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Today they parted ways with head coach Frank Reich. He 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: had been the head coach since twenty eighteen. His tenure 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: comes to an end with a record of forty thirty 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: three and one, and this comes after the Colts gave 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Reich an extension last August through two thousand and twenty six. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Reich became just the third head coach in team history 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: to win a playoff game in his first season, and 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: it was named AFC Coach of the Year for twenty 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: eighteen by the NFL one oh one Awards, and during 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: his five seasons, the team had six different primary starting quarterbacks, 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, Jacoby Brissette, Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan. 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: We know about Matt Ryan. He was benched after seven 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: starts and replaced by Sam Ellinger, who has started the 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: last two games. And the offense this season for the 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Colts has been very uneven, ranking thirty second in scoring. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: It scored more than twenty points just one time in 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: nine games, and then on Sunday, the Colts were held 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: at just one hundred and twenty one yards of offense. 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: That is the ninth fewest Enfranchise history, and the Colts 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: set a club record by going oh for fourteen on 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: third down yesterday. Reike's departure, of course, the latest change 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: the Colts have made in the last couple of weeks. 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Following the loss to Tennessee, the Colts bench Matty in 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: favor of Ellinger. Last week, the team relieved Marcus Brady 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: of his offensive coordinator responsibilities, and running back Nine Hines 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: was traded to Buffalo last week right before the trade deadline. 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: The Colts today announced that former Colts center Jeff's Saturday 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: will take over the rest of the season on an 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: interim basis. Of course, he's in the Colts Ring of honor. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Played for the Colts from ninety nine to twenty eleven, 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: played in six Pro Bowls, was named First Team All 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Pro a couple of times. And there will be a 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: press conference later tonight that is scheduled for seven thirty 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: later this evening that of course, is going to feature 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, the general manager of the Colts, Jim Rsay, 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday. That'll be streamed live on Colts dot 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: com and the Colts Mobile app coming up later tonight. 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: You can also check it out afterwards on Colts dot 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: com if you can't stream it live. So obviously a 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: lot to unpack tonight. Again, I'm Matt Taylor. We're gonna 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: get right after it. We're with you until seven o'clock 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: tonight before the Pacers take on the Pelicans at Gamebridge 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: Field House in downtown Indianapolis. Joining me now are the 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: former Cults and analysts Rick Venturi and Joe Wrights. Gentlemen, 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: this has obviously been a very very busy day, a 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: very interesting day, Rick will start with you before we 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: get into the Saturday part of the news. What did 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: you make of the move to dismiss Frank Riich after 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: nine games? Well, you know, Matt, you know, obviously you're 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: always it's always startling when it actually happens, you know, 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I think it. But the fact that Frank was let 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: go is does certainly doesn't come as a big surprise 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: to me. You know, I've talked to you a lot 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: about this. I've experienced it myself as a coach, both 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,279 Speaker 1: positively and negatively. But there are always there are games, 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: there are minutes that end up defining your career, and 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: if one of those games is a tremendous embarrassment to 69 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: the owner and to this and to everybody else, that 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: is usually the day you get fired. It may not 71 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: be literally that day, but it is the day that 72 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: you really and truly ended it. And I kind of 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: felt that way yesterday walking out of there, that you know, 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: that was the day. Now I could necessarily see that 75 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: it would come today, But to me, after yesterday, it 76 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: was a question not if Frank would go, but when 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: he would go. And I think beyond that, you know, 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: beyond it being the day there's always a day of definition. 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: But I think what we have to keep in mind 80 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: is that really, coach Coach Reich has been in quicksand 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: since Christmas Day. Christmas Day was the high water mark, 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: the win at Arizona, and then the two game melt down, 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: the embarrassing loss at Jacksonville that knocked us out of 84 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: the playoffs, the embarrassing start to the season. You know, 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: two divisional games that we should have won heavily favored, 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: that we tied, and we lost the sweep by Tennessee 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: after Jim had mandated that we played them well, that 88 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: we played them good. I think all those things, you know, 89 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: actually led to the day of decision. And you know, really, 90 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: when you look at it from Christmas to today, Frank 91 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: is three to seven and one. And you know, if 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you look at the offensive numbers from Christmas Day and 93 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: now you and I have discussed them, I mean, you know, 94 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: we haven't had a first quarter lead since Christmas. I mean, really, 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think all those things really were 96 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're really the slippery slope. And then yesterday's 97 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: embarrassment and it was really and I have to say this, 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not normally like this because I normally, right 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: to the end of a game try to keep trying 100 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to win. But yesterday was 101 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: really demoralizing the way that you know, Belichick and his 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: crew and that team just took our offense apart, and 103 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: I you know, I think that was it. Obviously there 104 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: was a plan in place to make this move. These 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: things just don't happen overnight, and so I think that's 106 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's in a way a way it goes. 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: So in many respects, I'm not surprised it was if 108 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: or when it wasn't. It wasn't if it was when, 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: to me a little bit startled the fact that it 110 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: was actually today. That's Rick Venturi, I'm Matt Taylor. Joe 111 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Rights is on the line with us tonight as well. Joe, 112 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: your initial thoughts on this move, again, not not the 113 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday part, We'll leave time later in the show 114 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: for that, but removing Frank Reich after nine games, after 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a three to five and one start, Yeah, it was surprising, 116 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: but not shocking, and kind of the coach's point. There's 117 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: always a suddenness when it actually happens. But you know, 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I think to coach's point, this had been in the 119 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: making for several months now. And you know, Frank was 120 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: an assistant when I was in the building in twenty 121 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: ten and eleven, and he's a good coach and a 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: great man, and you know, had a lot of success 123 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: when you think about you know, twenty eighteen went in 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: a playoff game, twenty twenty going to the playoff with 125 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, Philip Rivers and all the new quarterbacks and 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: everything he had to deal with. But I agree with coach. 127 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Since the end of last season and kind of the 128 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: calendar turned to twenty twenty two, it's just kind of 129 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: gone from okay to bad to worse. And you know, 130 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: this is the bottom line business, and coaches lived it. 131 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: He's a lifer and I lived it for a good 132 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: part of my life. We all know what we sign 133 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: up for when you sign up in the prestige and 134 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: the privilege of play in the National Football League that 135 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: you have to produce and at the end of the day, 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: it's a wins and lost league. It's a bottom line business. 137 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Parcels was famous. You are what your record says you are, 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: and so sometimes a change just needs to happen. And 139 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I think the coaches point you kind of felt that 140 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: as a game unfolded yesterday, just you know, how lackluster 141 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: our offense was, how bad we were. You know, the 142 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: defense only gave up twelve points. Still and they still 143 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: need to play at a high level, but just a 144 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of things compounding, and you know, you make the 145 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: move and you move forward, and I think that's I know, 146 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: we'll get into Jeff Saturday and the hiring, but shocking, 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I think some to the outside, but coach knows this. 148 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: We lived this on a daily basis. Coaches come and go, 149 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: players come and go. As a guy to your locker 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that you start, might have started a game and on 151 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday's lockers cleared out and somebody else's in, and so 152 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: we're kind of accustomed to that as people inside the 153 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: building that you move on. You try to make the 154 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: best of what it is. But for me as a 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: player perspective, you know, I think players got to take 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: ownership too, And a lot can be blamed on coaching, 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, there's fifty three 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: guys in the roster. Those guys are playing on the field, 159 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: and that effort has to be better and that's hopefully 160 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: something that you know, this change and change often galvanizes 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: some more positivity, you know, has to bring out better 162 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: performance from the guys collectively as a unit. As Joe right, 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: sim Matt Taylor. This is Colt's Round Table live tonight 164 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: fan Rick Venturry also along as well. Rick to close 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: out all throw this to you. You know, he was 167 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: here since twenty eighteen and a lot was thrown at him. 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: There's no question about that, especially at the quarterback position. 169 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: But how will you remember Frank Reich as a coach? 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: What are some things that he should be known for, 171 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: at least during his time in Indianapolis. I mentioned the quarterbacks, 172 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: all of the instability at at that position, watching Andrew 173 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Luck retiring and the Colts at that point really having 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: no definitive answer on how to go forward. I sort 175 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: of look at his time with the Colts as a 176 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: big asterisk. I don't know how you look at it, 177 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: but it's just very I think for me on a 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: personal level with Frank, I just don't think he got 179 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a fair shot because of the instability around him, you know, 180 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to put it. Matt Asterick. 181 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I think I think there's no question about 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: it that the quarterback shuffling has been a tremendous burden, 183 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: very hard to overcome. I think one of the differences 184 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: in the Tennessee team and our team is the continuum 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: at quarterback with Tannehill. Whether he's great or whether he isn't, 186 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: whether you like him or not. The fact that he's 187 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: been their quarterback for five years, where we've had a 188 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: different quarterback every year, I think has made the difference 189 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: in the series. To be honest with you. The head coach, though, 190 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: is you know, very much like a quarterback. When the 191 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: ball he's a quarterback's hands, he's responsible for regardless, and 192 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: everything stops, you know, the buck stops at the head 193 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: coach's offense. And you know, I think we made some 194 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: bad personnel decisions, you know, particularly in the offensive line 195 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: in the last twelve months that have come back to 196 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: han Us letting guys out of the building that really 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: hurt us. But I have the same feelings about Frank 198 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: that you do. I've had a lot of interplay with him. 199 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: He's a tremendous guy, number one, and he's a loyal guy. 200 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, he always, you know, until just recently and 201 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he did it. He didn't. 202 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: He never threw his players under the bus. He was 203 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: a real players coach in that sense. He never really 204 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: threw his coach is under the bus. And I think 205 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: in that regard, the other things I will think about 206 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: him is I think, until just recently, I always thought 207 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Frank did a really good job of that one in 208 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: oh philosophy, that his team's, regardless of the outcome the 209 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: week before, you know, always came to play. Now I 210 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: don't think that was as evident this year as it 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: was in the past. I also think of Frank has 212 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: great upsets, you know. I mean, despite all the things 213 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: that have happened in the last two years, we blew 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: out the Buffalo Bills in the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, 215 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's almost amazing, and we can't beat Jacksonville anywhere, 216 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, in that regard, and so I mean, I 217 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: think there was a quality to him. He was really 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: able to get ready for those games and get his 219 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: team ready for him, and those were very classic games. 220 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I think. On the negative side, I think this thing 221 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: with me and I think this goes back to my 222 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: dad to tell me when I was a young coach. Rick. 223 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: Before you out coach the other team, you got to 224 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: out coach the fans. You have to do some things 225 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: in obvious fashions. And I thought a lot of times, 226 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: situationally in games, he did a lot of things that 227 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: could be second guest, I think a lot of situational 228 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: goal to goal plays, third and short plays, fourth and 229 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: short plays. I just thought, situationally a lot of times, 230 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: not necessarily going forward or not going forward, but just 231 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: the plays like, for instance, I thought the third and 232 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: one and the fourth and one defined us. You know, 233 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: we come in there and we run a give play 234 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: to grandson on third and one, and then we run 235 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: a pitch outside to you know, to Jackson on fourth 236 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: and one, and and I think in over time a 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: lot of those situations have really hurt us. But he's 238 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: a good man. Is a This is a program with 239 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: very high standards. Just keep in mind the last two 240 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: coaches that were fired here, both of them had records, 241 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Hey, Tonight's shows brought to you 242 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: by Citizens Energy Groups Saving home on monthly bills. 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That's going to be streamed live again on 251 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile app. We're back 252 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: for more Colts Roundtable Live with Rick Fenturry and Joe Wrights. 253 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. Stay with us. We're back in a 254 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: moment here on ninety three five and one oh seven 255 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: five The Fan. We now return to Colts Roundtable Live 256 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: once again. Here's Matt Taylor. We're back again on Colts 257 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: Roundtable Live tonight. 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I'm Matt Taylor, joined by the 266 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: former Colts and analyst Rick Venturi and Joe Writes, were 267 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: talking about the moves that were made today by the Colts. 268 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: They parted ways with Frank Reich, and they've also hired 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: former Colts center Jeff's Saturday on an interim basis, trying 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: to make sense of it all before we begin into 271 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the Jeff Saturday part of it. Joe, I want to 272 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: go to you, what does this due to the locker room? 273 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: As a player? How do you accept this change? How 274 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: do you feel about this change knowing that you're a 275 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: guy inside this locker room that saw your head coach 276 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: be dismissed nine games in well before the end of 277 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the season. I think you feel some culpability. And I 278 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: know those guys, you know, I'm sure have a lot 279 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: of respect for Frank, But at the end of the day, 280 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: as a player, it's our job to perform on the field. 281 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: And I think you know, whenever a coach gets fired, 282 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, at some level some accountability has got to 283 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: go to the players too, right, It's not all Frank's 284 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: fault and the staff's fault. You know, players got to 285 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: play and players got to show up. And so I'm 286 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: sure if I'm a player, you know, right now sitting 287 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: there at home kind of wondering why, what can I 288 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: do better? What do I need to do better? And 289 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be watching the press conference live at 290 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: seven thirty like I will, and trying to get a 291 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: grasp on somebody knew coming into the building. I think 292 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: that's the uniqueness of this situation, Matt. Oftentimes, you know, 293 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: coaches get fired. You know, I played. I remember if 294 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: we found out on a Tuesday night that Tep Hamilton 295 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: got let go, and twelve hours later Rob Kazinski's leading 296 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the offense as the coordinator. But you have a completely 297 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: new guy coming in from the outside and Jeff Saturday, 298 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: a guy that you know, his resume speaks for itself. 299 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: And so I'm sure that they're going to be sitting 300 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: on pins and needles a little bit knowing that, Hey, 301 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's my job to perform, 302 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: and I want to keep my job, and I know, 303 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: as a player, to a man, we have to be better. 304 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: And it's Joe Rights. Rick Venturry's along as well. I'm 305 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Taylor here on ninety three five and one oh seven 306 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: five the Fan, a part of Colts Roundtable Live. By 307 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: the way, the press conference that you mentioned, Joe has 308 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: now been moved to eight o'clock. It's been moved from 309 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: seven thirty to eight o'clock today, So that is a 310 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: press conference that's going to feature Jim Ursay, Chris Ballard, 311 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday, now the interim head coach of the Colts. 312 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: So it's been that kind of a day. Everything's kind 313 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: of fluid and sort of minute by minute around here. Rick, 314 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: from the other standpoint, what's it like for the coaching 315 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: staff now during this change? How does this affect the 316 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: assistant coaches? A new guy comes in, he wasn't a 317 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: part of the staff, but maybe before all of that, 318 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: let's define interim. What does that mean for Jeff Saturday 319 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: in terms of duties and responsibilities. You've been through all 320 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: of this, Yeah, I've been through it twice obviously with 321 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: the Colts when Ron Meyer was let go in the 322 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: middle of the season, and then again that was in 323 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: ninety one, and then in ninety six with the Saints 324 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: when Jim Moore resigned in the middle of this season. 325 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Two different situations, but you know, both of them took 326 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: very very similar situations. I think the first thing, I 327 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: think there's four things that you have to do, and 328 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: I must say that I regardless of the record, The 329 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: record is almost insignificant. When you're an interim guy, you're 330 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: taking over a bad situation. It doesn't matter where it is. 331 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: You know there's an opening for a reason. But I 332 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: think I know I did a much better job in 333 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans the second time than I did the first time, 334 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: because you're better prepared. I also, one key thing was 335 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: is I never thought of myself in New Orleans as 336 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: auditioning for the head job when I people don't realize this. 337 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: When I took over at New Orleans, I was really 338 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: never given the interim tag. It was like, you know, 339 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: run with its son, And so I think there's a 340 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: little bit you're always kind of concerned if you were 341 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: auditioning correctly or not. Where in New Orleans, it was 342 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: just straight from the gut when I took over, and 343 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: even though I had only been there six weeks, I 344 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: was a bit of a fresh face, as Joe's talking about, 345 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: because I hadn't been there long time. As a matter 346 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: of fact, the way I became the interim coach of 347 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: the Saints is our general manager, Bill Koharick, was going 348 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: to announce that he would hire our personnel director, a 349 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: good friend of mine named Chet Franklin, to be the 350 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: head coach in our staff protest that they just literally 351 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: went in and said, we're not going to do that. 352 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: We want one of our own, and unbeknownst to me, 353 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: that said we want Rickerd Terry to do this. He's 354 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: done it, you know, we think he's capable of it. 355 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: And that's really how it happened. But to make a 356 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: long story short, the first thing that you have to 357 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: do as an interim coach is you have to take 358 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: over fast. You have to apply your leadership immediately. There 359 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: can't be a gap. There doesn't have to be any 360 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: frank right bashing. As a matter of fact, I would 361 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: make that point right off the bat to the team. 362 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: There's going to be unto that. But you have to 363 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: take over in every way with strong leadership. And I 364 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: think at this point emotional leadership, which I think Jeff 365 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: can provide, is really important. I think we've lost a 366 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: little bit of that touch. I think you can ever 367 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: forget that pro players are no different than anybody else, 368 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: and they will respond to some degree to emotion. But 369 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: you there can't be a leadership gap. You can't work 370 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: your way into the job you take over today to 371 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: get ready to win a game in Las Vegas on 372 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: this Sunday coming up now. Number one. Number one A 373 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: is you have to sell your staff. You have to 374 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: sell your staff that they have got to give everything 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: they have, that they've got to pull together and if 376 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: we win and we pull it out, only good things 377 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: can happen to everybody. Because this is devastating to a staff. 378 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: It's devastating, and you know, and they don't know we 379 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: you know. It's I think it's even tough sometimes when 380 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: you're bringing somebody in from the outside to the staff 381 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: because they're used to their own people. So it's very 382 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: important that you sell people. I remember when Ron Meyer. 383 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: People forget this. Ron Meyer was hired in the thirteenth 384 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: week of the nineteen ninety six season for Rod Dalhouer. 385 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: And when Ron came in, he pulled us all together 386 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: and he literally said, if we win the final three, 387 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: every one of you guys have a job with me. 388 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, he dangled the carrot out 389 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: for everybody, and darned if we didn't win the last 390 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: three and we all went happily ever after in eighty seven. 391 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: But you've got to sell your staff because they've got 392 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: to be with you. Everything is going to be reflected 393 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: on them. Number three. Are all these you have to 394 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: do simultaneously, So you got to be prepared and hit hit. 395 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: This isn't ESPN. You got to be ready to go. 396 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: You have to sell your team on why you're gonna 397 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: be better, and that's not given some pep talk about 398 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you got to play better. You know I was here 399 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: with Peyton manning all that. None of that matters. And 400 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: what you have to do is sell these guys on 401 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: what schematic changes you're going to make, how you're going 402 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: to put them in a better position to win, what 403 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: you're going to do along that line to get it done. 404 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Pro players respond to one thing motivationally, and that is 405 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: as a coach, are you putting me in the best 406 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: position to win? How are we going to turn this around? 407 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: And you have to sell that immediately. And then I 408 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: think number four, I think stay in your lane. Okay, 409 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: you're not all of a sudden going to be the 410 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: X and O guy. There's no way possible for that. 411 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: And you're taking a guy, you're taking a general practition 412 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: general practitioner, and you're saying, Okay, now you're going to 413 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: do brain surgery. So stay in your lane. You're basically 414 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: hired for what you have done here, what your image is, 415 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: and what your leadership skills are. You've got to define 416 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: your coaching staff immediately. There's going to take some work 417 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: to do that. On offense, you got to let Gus 418 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: and Bubba do their thing. And on offense, you've got 419 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: to redefine exactly how everything is going to go and 420 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: particularly how it's going to go on Sunday. Putting game 421 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: plans together is a cumulative action in installing to the players, 422 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty standard. The key is who is going 423 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: to make those critical decisions on game time. That's what 424 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: separates the NFL guys, the good and the bad and 425 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the average, to be honest with you, so it's those 426 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: four things. It's takeover leadership immediately. Bring that staff. Embrace 427 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: your staff, get them ready to go, defined in their roles. 428 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Sell your football team on why we're going to get better. 429 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: Why are we going to get better? And then number four, 430 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: stay in your lane. You've been successful in life because 431 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: of certain things. Don't get away from them. Don't try 432 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: to be somebody you're not. Hey, the Colts had a 433 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: takeaway on Sunday. It was a fumble recovery by Bobby o'karake. 434 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: That means Colts fans can score free appetizer tonight at 435 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: b Dubs for fun for Monday Night football through this 436 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday at participating Indianapolis location. See Colts dot com slash 437 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: BWW for details. Rick Vin Terry right there, Joe writes 438 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: on the phone as well here on Colts Roundtable Live 439 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: again a press conference tonight Jim Ursay, Chris Ballard and 440 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday eight o'clock tonight that was moved from seven 441 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty to eight o'clock. We're gonna stream it on Colts 442 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: dot com and the Colts Mobile app tonight, so check 443 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: that out a little bit later on this evening. And 444 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: also when we come back, we're going to continue to 445 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: discuss the Colts parting ways with head coach Frank Reike, 446 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: and we'll also start to get in on the other 447 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: side of the coin. If you will Jeff Saturday now 448 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: the Itham head coach of the Colts. How did this happen? 449 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: How did we get here? We'll discuss when we come back. 450 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live is back in just a moment. Stay 451 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: with us on ninety three five and one oh seven 452 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: five the Fan. Welcome back to Colts Roundtable Live on 453 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: ninety three ivan one oh seven five the Fan. Here's 454 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. We are back. 455 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: It's brought to you by Citizens Energy Group, proud to 456 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: be the Colts conservation partner, fine winning conservation tips tonight 457 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: at Citizens Energygroup dot com. This message also brought to 458 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: you by Meyer, the official Supercenter of the Colts and 459 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: proud sponsor of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. Again, 460 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, Joe Wrights and Rick Venturi are along 461 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: tonight with you until seven o'clock tonight before Pacer pregame. 462 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Eight o'clock is the press conference tonight that has been 463 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: changed from seven thirty to eight o'clock tonight, A press 464 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: conference featuring Jimmer Say, Chris Ballard and Jeff Saturday regarding 465 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: the coaching changes today after the Colts have dismissed Frank 466 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: Reich after nine games. So let's go to the Jeff 467 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: Saturday part of this. Joe now here as the interim 468 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: head coach. We know, we all know about the playing 469 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: career and the resume for Saturday on the field, A 470 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: great analyst, well spoken guy. He's terrific on television ESPN. 471 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: He coached his son as the head coach of Hebrew 472 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: and Christian High School in Georgia for three seasons. But 473 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: he's never coached in the NFL. He's never coached in 474 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: major college football. Joe, what do you make of this move? 475 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: On the surface with the Colts going to an interim 476 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: beloved player, but a guy that's never coached a certainly 477 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: at this level. Definitely surprising. I think this move came 478 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: out of left field and nobody saw it coming, certainly 479 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: not myself. You know, first time I can ever remember 480 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: really an interim coach and coming from outside the building. 481 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: I know it's well documented, but you know, I caught 482 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: up with Jeff it was probably four or five years ago, 483 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: and he said something to me that was unique and 484 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: didn't really think about it till now, but said, you know, 485 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: I've learned more about football in the last three years. 486 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: This is when he was coaching his son's team than 487 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I did in the NFL, because everything in the NFL 488 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: is the same, right you all have the same team's protections. 489 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: You might call it a different name, but he said 490 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: high school football, it's the wild wild West, and people 491 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: are running single wing to five wide, etc. So I 492 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: do think that that that will help him. He's led 493 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: a team. But when I think about Jeff Right, I 494 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: think about four things. I think about toughness. Remember this 495 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that went from an undrafted free agent 496 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: that nobody wanted to a six time Pro bowler. I 497 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: think about accountability. I think about humility. I think he 498 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: was a very humble player for as good as he 499 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: was when I was in the building with him for 500 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: a couple of years. And then the last would probably 501 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: be unique leadership. You know, Jeff is a leader of men, 502 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: and I will say, above all, if I'd have one 503 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: defining quality, he is a leader of men. And coach 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: knows this and I do too. When you're the head 505 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: coach and you're up there addressing the team, you have 506 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: to be a leader of men, a strong leader, and 507 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: I think he will bring that strong leadership. You know, 508 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: also during my time a couple of years of them. 509 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: He also was an addition to leading us that was 510 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: the NFL lockout in two thousand and ten. And we 511 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: don't all know the leadership you brought from the players 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: unique set or so, he's not unique to tough situations, 513 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: leading the charge, putting it on my back, but those 514 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: would be probably the four qualities with him, but certainly 515 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: unique in the fact that he's never coached side in 516 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: NFL building or college. And it's definitely going to be 517 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: a fresh start, something different. And that's why I think 518 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: as a player, you know, again you're on pins and 519 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: needles anyway, when somebody gets let go, but let alone 520 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: somebody completely unique bringing in it will be interesting to 521 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: me but also exciting, I think as a fan and 522 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: former player to see kind of how this thing shakes 523 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: out and what does Jeff do to put his stamp 524 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: on this team, this program, and this franchise, and how 525 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: does that not only this next eight weeks, but moving forward. 526 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: You know, as this team, you know, the bar for 527 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: this team, the low bar was always win the division 528 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs, Right, Matt, You've been a 529 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: part of that coach Ben Turrey and myself and it 530 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: was okay, you know, you win eleven twelve games, you 531 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: win the division. Now we're in the dance and we're 532 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: going for the super Bowl. And that has been lost 533 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: on this franchise the last five, six, seven years, having 534 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: won the divisions of twenty fourteen, and I'm sure that 535 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, mister Ursey and bringing Saturday in, it's we 536 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: got to get back to that type of program, dynasty 537 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: franchise where you know, the division, the AFC South runs 538 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: through Rawson. Unfortunately, we've been trying and trying, but it 539 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been like that. You know, really, you know, the 540 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: better part of this decade, there's no doubt. I mean 541 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: everything that you say Joe is accurated. I mean you 542 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: have to agree with that, Rick, I know you agree 543 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: with with the the personality traits that Joe just laid 544 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: out for Jeff Saturday. But Rick, why why do you 545 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: think the Colts went outside the staff for their interim coach? 546 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: Because they do have head coaching experience on their staff here. 547 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley has been a head coach, John Fox has 548 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: been a head coach. I mean, fact in John Fox 549 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: has you know, coached in Super Bowls. Why do you 550 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: think they essentially leap frog those guys in this situation 551 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: that they're in right now. Yeah, it's it's really surprising 552 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: to me, and it borders on shocking. And you know, 553 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I won't disagree with Joe on the qualities that you 554 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: expect from Saturday. I mean, obviously he's a very smart guy. 555 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: He's a communicator, there is a real career about him, 556 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: an enthusiasm, and so I think those things factor in 557 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: to being a head coach and in some respects, and 558 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: I've done it all. I've been a position coach, coordinator, 559 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: head coach. I tell you sometimes it's easier to come 560 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: in with those qualities as a head coach than it 561 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: is coordinator's. Coordinator job, to me is the toughest one 562 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: of them all because you're accountable for every play call. 563 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: You are a scientist, you are a leader. The important thing, though, 564 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: of course, I respect the coaching position, and I really 565 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: believe that this is a game of experts. I think if, 566 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: as somebody said about the military one time, if you're 567 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: going to fight in the North Atlantic, you have to 568 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: train in the North Atlantic. And a lot of guys 569 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: like you look at all the college coaches that have 570 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: come in, they haven't done very well. You know, when 571 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: you get when you get guy without that NFL experience, 572 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: it hasn't always been you know, the best of time. 573 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: So we'll give it a chance. I think if Jeff 574 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: does those four things that I've talked about previously, I think, 575 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think it'll carry him a long way. 576 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing his defensive staff is in place. 577 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: They're very experience and they're playing well. Overall. Abubba's special 578 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: teams unit has played really, really well. So in some 579 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: respects motivate the team on that aspect and get out 580 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: of the way. On offense, it's really got to be 581 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: restructured because in firing last week the offensive coordinator, you 582 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: really kind of lost the director now, so you have 583 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: to redefine this and you're going to be as good 584 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: as those guys are in the NFL is not high 585 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: school football, it's not even college football. It is totally different. 586 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: And the one thing that I've always believed is good 587 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: head coaches have to be football smart, not necessarily take 588 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: it from A to Z, but they've got to know 589 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: football to the degree that they can push the right 590 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: buttons when things aren't going good, they have to be 591 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: able to push the right buttons. And the old school 592 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: guys like Shula, Landry Lombardi, they could Chuck Nole, they 593 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: could coach every position in the NFL. So I mean, 594 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: those are the critical aspects. I think that he certainly 595 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: brings the the personality traits, you know, and at this 596 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: point it has flattened off, you know, it's the culturally 597 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: it is a little bit underwhelming right now, and so 598 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: that kind of juice I think can really help. But 599 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot to organizing a pro football team and 600 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: a pro football operation, so there's going to be a 601 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: challenge here. The good news for Jeff to me is 602 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: we bottomed out yesterday. You can't go any lower. And 603 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: basically you've got eight games with very low effectancy. To 604 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: be honest with you, no matter what anybody says, they'll talk, 605 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: but there's now low expectancy. And really, Matt, you only 606 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: got one way to go. You're you're about thirty second 607 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: in every offensive you're between thirty and thirty second and 608 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: every significant offensive category, knowing the man, so there's really 609 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: now only one way to go. Yeah, we'll see eight 610 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: games to go. It's certainly been a wild season. And 611 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing, you know. I don't 612 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't mean to sit here in an opine, but 613 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. I mean, two months ago 614 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: we're sitting here talking about division championships and a lot 615 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: of expectations, and you know, quarterbacks. The quarterback has been 616 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: benched and offensive coordinator has been let go, head coach 617 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: has been let go. So certainly been a wild couple 618 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: of weeks here. The Colts Audio Network includes podcasts, radio shows, 619 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: player interviews, and it's all available on iTunes, Spotify, anywhere 620 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: else you download your podcast. You can also listen to 621 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: the Serious XM mobile app by just searching cults and 622 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: we'll pull up for you. 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The heads of the Colts at the moment, 633 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Jim Ursey, Chris Ballard and Jeff Saturday. We'll meet with 634 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the media. That is scheduled for eight o'clock moved from 635 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: seven thirty to eight pm this evening. That is going 636 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: to be streamed on Colts dot com and the Colts 637 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Mobile at We're back for all of that, coming up 638 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: with more in just a moment, more coaching changes and 639 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: more dialogue with Rick Venturry and Joe Writes. I'm Matt Taylor, 640 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: back from more in just a second Colts Roundtable Live 641 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan. 642 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: This is Roundtable Live, a full hour dedicated to Colts football. 643 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Here again is Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. 644 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Well back again on Colts Roundtable Live, brought to you 645 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: by Citizens Energy Group, Proud to be the Colts Conservation partner. 646 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: Find winning conservation tips at Citizens Energygroup dot com. Again, 647 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, Rick Ventury and Joe Writes along Tonight. 648 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: Tonight show is also brought to you by ever Stream. 649 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: It's business Indie's business only Fiber network, Faster Fiber and 650 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: better business again. Press conference later on this evening featuring 651 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: Jim Ursay, Chris Ballard, and interim head coach now Jeff Saturday, 652 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: that has scheduled for eight o'clock later on tonight. You 653 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: can stream it live on Colts dot Com and the 654 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: Colts Mobile app to stay up to date on all 655 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the changes today. Of course, Frank Reich dismissed after nine games. 656 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: He had been with the Colts since twenty eighteen, with 657 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: a record of forty thirty three in one one a 658 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: playoff game. So it does beg the question now, Rick Venturry, 659 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: who's gonna call plays now? Because Marcus Brady no longer here? Obviously, 660 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Frank Reich dismissed late this morning. There's not a Colts coach, 661 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: coach on the roster or on the coaching staff, I 662 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: should say, as of right now that has called plays 663 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: at this level in the National Football League. Yeah, there's 664 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: no question about it. So you're gonna have to make 665 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: a decision here quickly. And I think it is just 666 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: as important as I said about Jeff taken over and 667 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: taking over that team room with firmness and strength and charisma, 668 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: and he takes over the leadership position of the team. 669 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: I really think it's important that he defines an offensive coordinator. 670 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, the obvious choices would be 671 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: Milinovich or Montgomery. You know, those are the two guys 672 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: that you know have, you know, kind of put this 673 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: stuff together. That would be the quarterback coach and the 674 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: running back coach exactly, and normally the natural guy to 675 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: call the plays is uh Milinovich. But what I think 676 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: is really important is that again that you come out 677 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: out strongly with where you're gonna go. You name a 678 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: guy and you let him become the guy. The last 679 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: thing I want to hear is we have co offensive coordinators, 680 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: because that's just that's mushy. That's that's that's avoiding a decision. 681 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: That's not taking over leadership. You're gonna put game plans 682 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: together as a cooperative Everybody is involved in putting the 683 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: game plan together. You know, classically, everybody has a specialty. 684 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: Usually it's your line coaches in the running game, it's 685 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: your receiver coaches in the passing game. You put it together. 686 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: On blitz you have usually a red zone guy, and 687 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: you know you do that kind of daily and you 688 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: put together a cooperative I think though in this case, 689 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: particularly with this turnover and with the instability that's been 690 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: here for the last couple of weeks, is get somebody 691 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: in there that is the voice in the room. And 692 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: then most importantly, that guy has got to be the 693 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: play caller, and that guy has got to be one guy. 694 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: You know. The difference to me an NFL is Sunday 695 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: play calling. I mean, you can there isn't anyone in 696 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: this league they can't put a game plan together. I mean, 697 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: these guys are pro football coaches. They can put game 698 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: plans together during the week, they can script it up, 699 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: they can put together good practice organization. But calling the 700 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: players defensively offensively during a game is the challenging part, 701 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: and to me, it is the difference maker. So you know, 702 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: to me, I don't know those guys well enough, but 703 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: as I say, traditionally, it's your quarterback guy. Because he knows, 704 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: he knows, he has the feel for the quarterback, he 705 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: knows exactly what the offense. He's been around Frank for 706 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: a while and so you know, I think that's really 707 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: important that they do it. You know, now what Jeff 708 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: may do if if he has someone now Tom Moore 709 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: has taken but somebody like that and experienced guy kind 710 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: of what John Fox does to the defense to probably 711 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: may be bringing a consultant just for him in terms 712 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: of bumping ideas off of somebody like that. But I 713 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: think you got to make a real strong commitment to 714 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: someone right here and you got to go with it. 715 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: That's Rick Venturi. I'm Matt Taylor. Joe rides along as well. 716 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: This is Colt's Roundtable live or with you for another 717 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen or so minutes here leading up to 718 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: a Pacer pregame tonight the Pacers take on the Pelicans, 719 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: and Joe, you did a great job of listing all 720 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: the leadership, all the traits that that certainly Jeff Saturday 721 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: has for this position. So once you get past the 722 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: initial shock of it, or the surprise that someone coming 723 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: outside the building is now going to take over on 724 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: an interim basis for the next eight games. Here is 725 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: this a trial run for Jeff Saturday to be the 726 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: head coach next year? How real is that? I know 727 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: we're going to find out more about that again coming 728 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: up at eight o'clock tonight during the press conference. Press conference. 729 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: But for you, Joe, how real is this candidacy if 730 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: you will for Jeff Saturday to take over on a 731 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: permanent basis be honest answer matter is I don't know, 732 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: and I'm interesting to see if there's more clarity you 733 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: know at eight o'clock when Jim and Chris and Jeff speak. 734 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: But bottom line, it's a time of crisis, and in 735 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: times of crisis in life, you need clarity, you need courage, 736 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: and you need conviction, and I'm confident Jeff has those. 737 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: But to me, is this more of an eight game. 738 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: He's in the building and he's kind of helping reset 739 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: the culture. Obviously, the winning culture here, you know, has 740 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: been lost in a roaded over time, and Jeff is 741 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: somebody that was here and knows how to win and 742 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: as a winner. And is it more you're trying to 743 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: reset the culture and then you know there's a new 744 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: coach hired at the end of the year, or is 745 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: it something where hey, if he does well and the 746 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: team responds and they rally around him, this could be 747 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: a real deal. And if I'm Jeff, you know, I'm 748 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: guessing he's not taking this job unless he has real 749 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: aspirations to be an NFL coach. But again to Rick's point, 750 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: it was a surprising, borderline shocking move, but I think, 751 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, it obviously would have been super super shocking 752 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: if it would January tenth, so to speak, in the 753 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: season was over and then he was named right because 754 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: obviously this is a unique time. Things are moving fast, 755 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering is it the former or the ladder 756 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: with Jeff. I think maybe we'll find out more tonight, 757 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: But honestly, we'll probably find out more at the end 758 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: of the season. I know fans and you know, they 759 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: probably want to know what's going on, but you know, 760 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: he's an interim coach. He's going to have the headset 761 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: on and he's gonna be throwing the challenge flag Sunday 762 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: in Vegas at four o'clock, and you know, over the 763 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: next eight games, I think that that role and that 764 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: question you pose will kind of define itself. If that 765 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, Noah does. Absolutely. That's Joe Writes right 766 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: there again on Colts Roundtable Live, which is brought to 767 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: you by Caesar's Sports Book, proud Sports betting partner of 768 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Time for a quick time out for 769 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: the last time tonight when we come back, we're going 770 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: to close out the show. We'll take a look at 771 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: the AFC South standings after nine games, and we'll wrap 772 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: up our final thoughts on the coaching moves today and 773 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: also take a quick look at the Raiders coming up 774 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: in week ten. You, by the way, there is a 775 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: game coming up on Sunday and the Colts have eight 776 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: more of them Raiders up next in Sin City, and 777 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: certainly we'll continue to guide you to the press conference 778 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock tonight featuring Chris Ballard, Frank Reich or 779 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say Frank Reich, but of course Jeff Saturday 780 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: and Jim Urse to discuss all the moves that were 781 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: made today. So we'll close out the show, get you 782 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: a set and ready to go for Pacer pregame coming 783 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour at seven o'clock. 784 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to Colts Roundtable Live. We'll come back with 785 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: more in just a moment here on ninety three five 786 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: and one oh seven five The Fan. Welcome back to 787 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three five and one oh 788 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: seven five the Fan. For more Colt's breakdown, here's Matt Taylor, 789 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Colts, got about three minutes left 790 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: on this show. Tonight, we're back for the final time 791 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: on Colts Roundtable Live, brought to you by Citizens Energy 792 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: Group prowd to be the Colts conservation partner. Find winning 793 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: conservation tips at Citizens Energy Group dot com. The night 794 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: shows also brought to you by CBS four. Get your 795 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: forecastst on CBS four and get weather updates anytime with 796 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: the CBS four Indie app. You can also customize it 797 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: so you only get the alerts that you want. Search 798 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: CBS four Indie in the App Store or Google Play. 799 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: The Titans are five and three. They're five game winning streak, 800 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: snap last night in Kansas City and overtime, but they're 801 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: still in first place. The Colts are in second place, 802 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: three to five and one. Jaguars at three and six. 803 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: They beat the Raiders on Sunday. That's next up for 804 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: the Colts. The Raiders, that is Texans are one six 805 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: in one. They've lost six of their last seven. Rick 806 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Venturry and Joe Wrights back for the final time. Rick 807 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: your final thoughts on the coaching moves today and what 808 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: Frank Reich must be feeling today after the hard and 809 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: harsh realities of the NFL have settled in for him. 810 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Trust me, I've felt it. I've been there, and this 811 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: was a guy that had a lot of success here early. 812 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: This is a good man. I'm sure you know. When 813 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: I looked at him yesterday for the first time on 814 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: the sidelines, I felt like he looked tired, mad I 815 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: thought he felt he just looked worn out. I'm sure 816 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: on one end of it that he's devastated the commitment 817 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: that he's put into this, the commitment you put in 818 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: as a coach, to sacrifice to your family, to everyone, 819 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: the hours, everything that goes into it, your whole life, 820 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, and to have it thrown in your face 821 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: is devastating. But I think probably in another respect, after 822 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: watching him yesterday, there's probably a gentle relief he will recover. 823 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: He's got a really good reputation within the league, and 824 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: so he will. He will rise and fight another battle, 825 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Yep Rick Venturi right there on 826 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, who's one of the best human beings that 827 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: I've ever come across in terms of professional and certainly 828 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: inside football. Joey got about a minute left outside of 829 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: results here, what are you going to be watching for 830 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: this week after the coaching changes. What are some keys 831 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: for you that are you going to be looking forward 832 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: to see whether or not this is successful. I know 833 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: you're transition to a Jeff Saturday. I'm going to look 834 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: at a change in culture, and I think, honestly above all, 835 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: that's why mister Ursey made this move. You know, a 836 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: culture that has you know, slid over time and eroded, 837 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, from a franchise that's historically used 838 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: to winning games and expects to win games. I haven't 839 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: felt that from watching the team and so inspired football. 840 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: A team that's going to get after, a team that's 841 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: going to pull together and be galvanized, you know, as 842 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: odd and crazy as maybe shocking this move, I mean 843 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: that's what I'm excited to watch from the player's standpoint 844 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: and see really what we got individually collectively in this building, 845 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, over this last eight games of the season. 846 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: No doubt about a press conference tonight at eight o'clock. 847 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, Jim Ursay, Jeff Saturday. That's all the time 848 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: we've got tonight here on Colts Roundtable Live. My thanks 849 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: to Kyle, you to Mark again, Pacer basketball is coming 850 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: up next, the Blue and Gold take on the Pelicans, 851 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week at six o'clock 852 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: for another installment of Colts Roundtable Live. Until then, thanks 853 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: for listening everybody, and we'll talk to you again on 854 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: Monday night here on the Home of the Colts, ninety 855 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven five the Fan